Re: [efloraofindia:304930] Re: Zephyranthes candida (Lindl.) Herb.

2018-09-17 Thread Ushadi Micromini
one more color of the rain lily
nice
usha di

On Tue, Sep 18, 2018 at 7:28 AM, J.M. Garg  wrote:

> Thanks, Saroj ji, for the beautiful images
>
> On Mon 17 Sep, 2018, 8:36 PM Saroj Kasaju,  wrote:
>
>> Dear Members,
>>
>> Location: Lantau, Hong Kong
>> Date: 14 August 2018
>> Elevation: 3000 ft.
>> Habit : Cultivated
>>
>> Thank you.
>>
>> Saroj Kasaju
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Re: [efloraofindia:304929] SK1448 17 Sep 2018

2018-09-17 Thread Ushadi Micromini
torenia has been qute popular with seed catalogues and home gardeners in
india and uk
usha di

On Mon, Sep 17, 2018 at 8:28 PM, Saroj Kasaju  wrote:

> Dear Members,
>
> Location: Lantau, Hong Kong
> Date: 14 August 2018
> Elevation: 3000 ft.
> Habit : Wild
>
> Torenia asiatica L.  ??
>
> Thank you.
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[efloraofindia:304927] Re: Grass/ Herb/ fern for ID

2018-09-17 Thread Devi Nair
Thank you, Garg’ji, Manoj’ji.

If it is a fern would like to know the ID.

On Tuesday, 18 September 2018, J.M. Garg  wrote:

> Thanks, Manoj ji.
>
> -- Forwarded message -
> From: Manoj Chandran <>
> Date: Tue 18 Sep, 2018, 8:22 AM
> Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:303926] Grass/ Herb for ID
> To: jmgarg1 
>
>
> Not a grass. Looks more like a fern.
>
> On Sat, Sep 15, 2018 at 3:00 PM J.M. Garg  wrote:
>
>> Forwarding again for Id assistance please.
>>
>> -- Forwarded message --
>> From: Devi Nair 
>> Date: 5 September 2018 at 15:43
>> Subject: [efloraofindia:303926] Grass/ Herb for ID
>> To: efloraofindia 
>>
>>
>> Found in Thally, near Hosur. Please ID.
>>
>>
>> Thank you,
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Re: [efloraofindia:304927] Albizia sherriffii (Leguminosae: Mimosoideae)

2018-09-17 Thread Ushadi Micromini
vry nic
ushadi

On Tue, Sep 18, 2018 at 7:47 AM, J.M. Garg  wrote:

> Thanks a lot, Tapas ji
>
> On Tue 18 Sep, 2018, 12:40 AM Tapas Chakrabarty, 
> wrote:
>
>> Photographer: Mr. *Santanu Dey*
>> Botanical name: *Albizia sherriffii *Baker.f. (Leguminosae: Mimosoideae).
>> Location: Nagaland, India
>> Habit: Trees, 10 - 20 m high.
>> Habitat: In primary forests between 800 - 1200 m altitudes, ascending to
>> 2000 m on the Himalayas (in subtropical forests).
>> Abundance: Rare.
>> Distribution: India (Sikkim, North-East India), Bhutan, Myanmar and China.
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Re: [efloraofindia:304926] Fwd: DICHROSTACHYS CINEREA

2018-09-17 Thread Ushadi Micromini
thank you
this way we will have it in the group site

thanks, bimalda for the individual

picture

On Tue, Sep 18, 2018 at 6:48 AM, Bimal Sar kar  wrote:

> Thank you Ushadi.
> Have a wonderful day.
> With regards,
> Bimal
>
> On Mon, 17 Sep 2018 at 21:34, Ushadi Micromini 
> wrote:
>
>> very nice, just love it
>>
>> Bimalda
>> do you have the first picture in the collage in the iriginal high
>> resolution?
>>
>> if possible, can we see it please.
>> thanks
>> usha di
>>
>> On Mon, Sep 17, 2018 at 7:12 PM, J.M. Garg  wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks, Bimal ji.
>>>
>>> -- Forwarded message --
>>> From: Bimal Sar kar 
>>> Date: 17 September 2018 at 18:51
>>> Subject: DICHROSTACHYS CINEREA
>>> To:
>>>
>>>
>>> Attaching a collage of Dichrostachyas cinerea ( PAINTED THORN BUSH ).
>>> There were two plants of this species a few years back. I see only one
>>> standing now.
>>>
>>>
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[efloraofindia:304925] Re: Wildflower for ID 04

2018-09-17 Thread Devi Nair
Thanks Garg’ji.

>From the images in the link, Argyreia cuneata seems the closest.

Maybe somebody could confirm.

On Tuesday, 18 September 2018, J.M. Garg  wrote:

> Pl. check comparative images at https://sites.google.com/
> site/efloraofindia/species/a---l/cl/convolvulaceae/argyreia
>
> On Tue 18 Sep, 2018, 10:34 AM Devi Nair,  wrote:
>
>> Dear Members,
>>
>> For ID.
>>
>> Date: 06/09/18
>>
>> Location : Jawalagiri (near Hosur)
>> Altitude   : 997 ASL
>> Habitat.   : wild
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Thank you.
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Fwd: [efloraofindia:304924] Re: Tree for ID :Duabanga grandiflora ?

2018-09-17 Thread J.M. Garg
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From: M Swamy 
Date: Tue 18 Sep, 2018, 12:03 PM
Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:304914] Re: Tree for ID :Duabanga grandiflora ?
To: J.M. Garg 


Thanks Aarthi ji.

On Tue 18 Sep, 2018, 11:41 J.M. Garg,  wrote:

> Thanks, Aarti ji
>
> On Tue 18 Sep, 2018, 9:27 AM Aarti S. Khale, 
> wrote:
>
>> Yes. This is Duabanga grandiflora.
>> Aarti
>>
>> On Tuesday, September 18, 2018 at 6:38:09 AM UTC+4, JM Garg wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>> Date: Mon 17 Sep, 2018, 8:14 PM
>>> Subject: Re: MS/2018/ September/ 3 : Tree for ID :Duabanga grandiflora ?
>>> To: J.M. Garg 
>>>
>>> I am posting the pictures of the tree.  Photos taken in a Lalbagh during
>>> 2012. Please confirm the ID
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Re: [efloraofindia:304923] Wildflower for ID 04

2018-09-17 Thread J.M. Garg
Pl. check comparative images at
https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/a---l/cl/convolvulaceae/argyreia

On Tue 18 Sep, 2018, 10:34 AM Devi Nair,  wrote:

> Dear Members,
>
> For ID.
>
> Date: 06/09/18
>
> Location : Jawalagiri (near Hosur)
> Altitude   : 997 ASL
> Habitat.   : wild
>
>
>
>
> Thank you.
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Re: [efloraofindia:304921] Re: Tree for ID :Duabanga grandiflora ?

2018-09-17 Thread J.M. Garg
Thanks, Aarti ji

On Tue 18 Sep, 2018, 9:27 AM Aarti S. Khale,  wrote:

> Yes. This is Duabanga grandiflora.
> Aarti
>
> On Tuesday, September 18, 2018 at 6:38:09 AM UTC+4, JM Garg wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> -- Forwarded message -
>> From: M Swamy 
>> Date: Mon 17 Sep, 2018, 8:14 PM
>> Subject: Re: MS/2018/ September/ 3 : Tree for ID :Duabanga grandiflora ?
>> To: J.M. Garg 
>>
>> I am posting the pictures of the tree.  Photos taken in a Lalbagh during
>> 2012. Please confirm the ID
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Re: [efloraofindia:304921] Re: Tree for ID :Duabanga grandiflora ?

2018-09-17 Thread J.M. Garg
Thanks, Santhan ji

On Tue 18 Sep, 2018, 9:07 AM Santhan P,  wrote:

> yes,it is *Duabanga grandiflora (DC.) Walp.; * often cultivated in the
> mid elevation hill areas
>
> On Tuesday, September 18, 2018 at 8:08:09 AM UTC+5:30, JM Garg wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> -- Forwarded message -
>> From: M Swamy 
>> Date: Mon 17 Sep, 2018, 8:14 PM
>> Subject: Re: MS/2018/ September/ 3 : Tree for ID :Duabanga grandiflora ?
>> To: J.M. Garg 
>>
>> I am posting the pictures of the tree.  Photos taken in a Lalbagh during
>> 2012. Please confirm the ID
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Re: [efloraofindia:304920] Re: Bharathi raja wants some seeds

2018-09-17 Thread J.M. Garg
Thanks, Santhan ji

On Tue 18 Sep, 2018, 9:21 AM Santhan P,  wrote:

> Stereospermum is frequently available in the Shimoga, Coorg and Mudhumalai
> area, it will be matured during winter, seeds with long lateral wings; so
> it will fly when fruit splits. I used to collect frequently, When i go to
> field I will collect and give.
>
> On Monday, September 17, 2018 at 11:19:57 PM UTC+5:30, Ushadi wrote:
>>
>> Dear all:
>> in another thread our member
>> ms Bharathi Raja
>> mentioned that she would appreciate getting seeds , i quote "
>> I am in interested a plant named Stereospermum chelonoides.Can any one of
>> you get the seeds for me for propagation purpose.. " end quote
>>
>> as you all know she has been growing seeds and showing us the growth
>> phases  etc
>>
>> so anybody who may have access to these seeds please contact her here by
>> replying to this thread.
>>
>> Bharathi ,  flowers of india website has a page
>> https://www.flowersofindia.net/catalog/slides/Fragrant%20Padri%20Tree.html
>>
>> pictures are from maharastra state, taken by our own Prashant Awale
>> he can be a good lead
>> another person would br Dinesh Valke.
>>
>> lets hope some seeds turn up.
>>
>> good luck
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Fwd: [efloraofindia:304919] 171-TSP-ID-17SEP2018-2 A monocot near Sakaleshpur for ID

2018-09-17 Thread J.M. Garg
Thanks, Manoj ji.

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From: Manoj Chandran <>
Date: Tue 18 Sep, 2018, 8:24 AM
Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:304817] 171-TSP-ID-17SEP2018-2 A monocot near
Sakaleshpur for ID
To: jmgarg1 


Images 2-Kadmane to 5-Kadmane are of Oplismenus compositus. Image 1-Kadmane
also has some Cyrtococcum patens.

On Mon, Sep 17, 2018 at 5:43 PM J.M. Garg  wrote:

> Thanks, Kumar ji
>
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> From: tsp kumar 
> Date: Mon 17 Sep, 2018, 2:17 PM
> Subject: [efloraofindia:304817] 171-TSP-ID-17SEP2018-2 A monocot near
> Sakaleshpur for ID
> To: efloraofindia 
>
>
> Dear friends,
>
>
>
> Kindly examine and identify this plant
>
>
>
>
>
> Habit:Herb
>
>
>
> Habitat:  Evergreen forest floor
>
>
>
> Sighting: Near Sakaleshpur,Karnataka
>
>
>
> Date:   04-11-2016
>
>
>
> Thanks and regards
>
> tspkumar
>
> Deputy Conservator of Forests (R)
>
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>
> Ph:9880571585
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Fwd: [efloraofindia:304917] Grass/ Herb for ID

2018-09-17 Thread J.M. Garg
Thanks, Manoj ji.

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From: Manoj Chandran <>
Date: Tue 18 Sep, 2018, 8:22 AM
Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:303926] Grass/ Herb for ID
To: jmgarg1 


Not a grass. Looks more like a fern.

On Sat, Sep 15, 2018 at 3:00 PM J.M. Garg  wrote:

> Forwarding again for Id assistance please.
>
> -- Forwarded message --
> From: Devi Nair 
> Date: 5 September 2018 at 15:43
> Subject: [efloraofindia:303926] Grass/ Herb for ID
> To: efloraofindia 
>
>
> Found in Thally, near Hosur. Please ID.
>
>
> Thank you,
>
> Devi.
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[efloraofindia:304916] Re: 172-TSP-ID-17SEP2018-3 A herb near Kottigehara,for ID

2018-09-17 Thread Santhan P
It will be a species of Nilgirianthus (=Strobilanthus)

On Monday, September 17, 2018 at 2:21:01 PM UTC+5:30, tsp kumar wrote:
>
> Dear friends,
>
>  
>
> Kindly examine and identify this plant
>
>  
>
>  
>
> Habit: Herb
>
>  
>
> Habitat:  Evergreen forest opening
>
>  
>
> Sighting: Near Chikmagalur,Karnataka
>
>  
>
> Date:  23-02-2016
>
>  
>
> Thanks and regards
>
> tspkumar
>
> Deputy Conservator of Forests (R)
>
> Tumkur,Karnataka
>
> Ph:9880571585
>
>  
>
>  
>
>  
>
> *“We have not inherited this planet from our forefathers, we have borrowed 
> it from our children”-An American proverb*
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[efloraofindia:304915] Re: Henckelia bifolia

2018-09-17 Thread Mahadeswara
Very good presentation & beautiful photographs.

On Monday, September 17, 2018 at 11:11:03 PM UTC+5:30, ashutoshsharma11sn 
wrote:
>
> Respected members,
>
> Here are the images of Henckelia bifolia
> Synonyms - Chirita bifolia
> Two Leaved Henckelia/Chirita
> Family - Gesneriaceae
>
> Photographed at Kullu District, Himachal Pradesh
> Altitude - 1800meters
> August 2018
>
> Best regards
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[efloraofindia:304914] Re: Tree for ID :Duabanga grandiflora ?

2018-09-17 Thread Aarti S. Khale
Yes. This is Duabanga grandiflora.
Aarti 

On Tuesday, September 18, 2018 at 6:38:09 AM UTC+4, JM Garg wrote:
>
>
>
> -- Forwarded message -
> From: M Swamy >
> Date: Mon 17 Sep, 2018, 8:14 PM
> Subject: Re: MS/2018/ September/ 3 : Tree for ID :Duabanga grandiflora ?
> To: J.M. Garg >
>
> I am posting the pictures of the tree.  Photos taken in a Lalbagh during 
> 2012. Please confirm the ID 
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[efloraofindia:304913] Re: Bharathi raja wants some seeds

2018-09-17 Thread Santhan P
Stereospermum is frequently available in the Shimoga, Coorg and Mudhumalai 
area, it will be matured during winter, seeds with long lateral wings; so 
it will fly when fruit splits. I used to collect frequently, When i go to 
field I will collect and give.

On Monday, September 17, 2018 at 11:19:57 PM UTC+5:30, Ushadi wrote:
>
> Dear all:
> in another thread our member 
> ms Bharathi Raja
> mentioned that she would appreciate getting seeds , i quote "
> I am in interested a plant named Stereospermum chelonoides.Can any one of 
> you get the seeds for me for propagation purpose.. " end quote
>
> as you all know she has been growing seeds and showing us the growth 
> phases  etc
>
> so anybody who may have access to these seeds please contact her here by 
> replying to this thread.
>
> Bharathi ,  flowers of india website has a page 
> https://www.flowersofindia.net/catalog/slides/Fragrant%20Padri%20Tree.html
>
> pictures are from maharastra state, taken by our own Prashant Awale
> he can be a good lead
> another person would br Dinesh Valke.
>
> lets hope some seeds turn up.
>
> good luck
>
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> ===
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[efloraofindia:304912] Re: Tree for ID :Duabanga grandiflora ?

2018-09-17 Thread Santhan P
yes,it is *Duabanga grandiflora (DC.) Walp.; * often cultivated in the mid 
elevation hill areas

On Tuesday, September 18, 2018 at 8:08:09 AM UTC+5:30, JM Garg wrote:
>
>
>
> -- Forwarded message -
> From: M Swamy 
> Date: Mon 17 Sep, 2018, 8:14 PM
> Subject: Re: MS/2018/ September/ 3 : Tree for ID :Duabanga grandiflora ?
> To: J.M. Garg 
>
> I am posting the pictures of the tree.  Photos taken in a Lalbagh during 
> 2012. Please confirm the ID 
>

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[efloraofindia:304910] Re: SK1443 15 Sep 2018

2018-09-17 Thread Ushadi Micromini
god, pankaj
you led me merry chase
but it had a good result
i got to copy past my favorite paragraph
we had this argument several years ago also
so this clarified it
and underlined/or highlighted as in this case
be well and happy
ushadi

On Tue, Sep 18, 2018 at 8:14 AM, Pankaj Kumar 
wrote:

> I just inquired my friends. they say there is only one species planted in
> HK and that is Galphimia gracilis.
> Sorry for wrong name before.
> Thanks and regards
> Pankaj
>
>
> On Tue, 18 Sep 2018 at 10:18, Ushadi Micromini 
> wrote:
>
>> thank you, Garg ji
>> one more thing oked.
>> you are tireless.
>> i am glad
>>
>> usha di
>>
>> On Tue, Sep 18, 2018 at 7:40 AM, J.M. Garg  wrote:
>>
>>> I have already corrected all threads earlier identified wrongly in efi
>>> to G. gracilis.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon 17 Sep, 2018, 9:45 PM Ushadi Micromini, <
>>> microminipho...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
 Pankaj
 i have copy pasted and said as much above from univ michigan site
 i gave the link
 and highlighted what they have written. its not my new writing..

 some where else i saw it, but it was a nursery site if i remember
 so i did not copy the link.

 *Dr Sawmy:*
 its Galphimia gracilis. and only way to know for sure  is when fruits
 develop
 the flower petals fall off, per univ mich site. and
 see the link
 and my copy paste above

 and if you work your way thru that site or 15 /20 minutes you will see
 beautiful bw line drawings
 that should give you a better idea of the inflorescence you have etc

 And please send in pictures as a new thread, would love to see it.


 i had this in my balcony for about three years, never got a fruit, no
 pollinators.
 usha di


 On Mon, Sep 17, 2018 at 5:45 PM, J.M. Garg  wrote:

> Yes, Pankaj ji. That is what the referred publication says.
>
>
> On Mon 17 Sep, 2018, 1:37 PM Pankaj Kumar, 
> wrote:
>
>> Galphimia glauca and Galphimia brasilensis are not cultivated? Really?
>> Pankaj
>>
>>
>> On Monday, September 17, 2018, J.M. Garg  wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks Ushadi,
>>> I think you are right. I think we sorted out our posts to this id
>>> after going through the given publication.
>>>
>>> On Sat 15 Sep, 2018, 6:07 PM Ushadi Micromini, <
>>> microminipho...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
 Saroj ji
 it seems only way to tell them apart is to either diligently
 measure  etc
 and
 most importantly
 observe the fruit formation per this write up by univ michigan Ms
 Anderson
 
  scroll
 to the lower third of the page 

 *"Galphimia gracilis* is easily told apart from the true *G.
 glauca* and *G. brasiliensis* by the flowers.
  In *G. gracilis* the petals fall as the fruit matures; in *G.
 glauca* the petals are persistent even in fruit.
 In *G. gracilis* many flowers of a dense inflorescence are open at
 one time, and the petals (claw and limb)
  are 8–14 mm long and 4–8 mm wide;
 in *G. brasiliensis* only 2 or 3 small flowers are open at one
 time on a sparse inflorescence,
  and the petals are only 4–5 mm long and ca. 3 mm wide.
 *Galphimia glauca*
 * and G. brasiliensis are not cultivated. " *


 she also had b&w line drawings that shows the difference of
 inflorescence
 http://webapps.lsa.umich.edu/herb/malpigh/GalClade/
 Galphimia/GalGrac.html
 http://webapps.lsa.umich.edu/herb/malpigh/GalClade/
 Galphimia/GalGlau.html

 and our own page is very informative
 https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/m---z/m/
 malpighiaceae/galphimia/galphimia-gracilis
 https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/indiantreepix/galphimia%
 7Csort:date/indiantreepix/IO7UlIRMmXA/KX1ndCxYBAAJ
 Gurcharanji has written several times


 this is how i had arrived at the diagnosing my own galphias in the
 balcony, a few years ago, now dead.
 https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/indiantreepix/galphimia%
 7Csort:date/indiantreepix/NG3d1PG1xSA/NlSVnaeJBAAJ

 and hope this helps in your own opinion making.
 usha di

 On Sat, Sep 15, 2018 at 5:32 PM, Pankaj Kumar <
 sahanipan...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I think this should be Galphimia glauca.
> Thanks for sharing.
> Pankaj
>
>
>
> On Saturday, September 15, 2018, Saroj Kasaju <
> kasajusa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Galphimia gracilis Bartl.
>>
>> Thank you Dr. Subramaniam.
>>
>> Saroj Kasaju
>>

[efloraofindia:304909] Re: SK1443 15 Sep 2018

2018-09-17 Thread J.M. Garg
Thanks for the validation, Pankaj ji

On Tue 18 Sep, 2018, 8:12 AM Pankaj Kumar,  wrote:

> I just inquired my friends. they say there is only one species planted in
> HK and that is Galphimia gracilis.
> Sorry for wrong name before.
> Thanks and regards
> Pankaj
>
>
> On Tue, 18 Sep 2018 at 10:18, Ushadi Micromini 
> wrote:
>
>> thank you, Garg ji
>> one more thing oked.
>> you are tireless.
>> i am glad
>>
>> usha di
>>
>> On Tue, Sep 18, 2018 at 7:40 AM, J.M. Garg  wrote:
>>
>>> I have already corrected all threads earlier identified wrongly in efi
>>> to G. gracilis.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon 17 Sep, 2018, 9:45 PM Ushadi Micromini, <
>>> microminipho...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
 Pankaj
 i have copy pasted and said as much above from univ michigan site
 i gave the link
 and highlighted what they have written. its not my new writing..

 some where else i saw it, but it was a nursery site if i remember
 so i did not copy the link.

 *Dr Sawmy:*
 its Galphimia gracilis. and only way to know for sure  is when fruits
 develop
 the flower petals fall off, per univ mich site. and
 see the link
 and my copy paste above

 and if you work your way thru that site or 15 /20 minutes you will see
 beautiful bw line drawings
 that should give you a better idea of the inflorescence you have etc

 And please send in pictures as a new thread, would love to see it.


 i had this in my balcony for about three years, never got a fruit, no
 pollinators.
 usha di


 On Mon, Sep 17, 2018 at 5:45 PM, J.M. Garg  wrote:

> Yes, Pankaj ji. That is what the referred publication says.
>
>
> On Mon 17 Sep, 2018, 1:37 PM Pankaj Kumar, 
> wrote:
>
>> Galphimia glauca and Galphimia brasilensis are not cultivated? Really?
>> Pankaj
>>
>>
>> On Monday, September 17, 2018, J.M. Garg  wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks Ushadi,
>>> I think you are right. I think we sorted out our posts to this id
>>> after going through the given publication.
>>>
>>> On Sat 15 Sep, 2018, 6:07 PM Ushadi Micromini, <
>>> microminipho...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
 Saroj ji
 it seems only way to tell them apart is to either diligently
 measure  etc
 and
 most importantly
 observe the fruit formation per this write up by univ michigan Ms
 Anderson
 
  scroll
 to the lower third of the page 

 *"Galphimia gracilis* is easily told apart from the true *G.
 glauca* and *G. brasiliensis* by the flowers.
  In *G. gracilis* the petals fall as the fruit matures; in *G.
 glauca* the petals are persistent even in fruit.
 In *G. gracilis* many flowers of a dense inflorescence are open at
 one time, and the petals (claw and limb)
  are 8–14 mm long and 4–8 mm wide;
 in *G. brasiliensis* only 2 or 3 small flowers are open at one
 time on a sparse inflorescence,
  and the petals are only 4–5 mm long and ca. 3 mm wide.
 *Galphimia glauca*
 * and G. brasiliensis are not cultivated. " *


 she also had b&w line drawings that shows the difference of
 inflorescence

 http://webapps.lsa.umich.edu/herb/malpigh/GalClade/Galphimia/GalGrac.html

 http://webapps.lsa.umich.edu/herb/malpigh/GalClade/Galphimia/GalGlau.html

 and our own page is very informative

 https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/m---z/m/malpighiaceae/galphimia/galphimia-gracilis

 https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/indiantreepix/galphimia%7Csort:date/indiantreepix/IO7UlIRMmXA/KX1ndCxYBAAJ
 Gurcharanji has written several times


 this is how i had arrived at the diagnosing my own galphias in the
 balcony, a few years ago, now dead.

 https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/indiantreepix/galphimia%7Csort:date/indiantreepix/NG3d1PG1xSA/NlSVnaeJBAAJ

 and hope this helps in your own opinion making.
 usha di

 On Sat, Sep 15, 2018 at 5:32 PM, Pankaj Kumar <
 sahanipan...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I think this should be Galphimia glauca.
> Thanks for sharing.
> Pankaj
>
>
>
> On Saturday, September 15, 2018, Saroj Kasaju <
> kasajusa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Galphimia gracilis Bartl.
>>
>> Thank you Dr. Subramaniam.
>>
>> Saroj Kasaju
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Sep 15, 2018 at 4:07 PM Bala Subramaniam <
>> balasubramaniam1...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Galphimia gracilis
>>>
>>> On Sat, 15 Sep 2018, 15:43 S

[efloraofindia:304908] Re: SK1443 15 Sep 2018

2018-09-17 Thread Saroj Kasaju
Thank you Pankaj !

Saroj Kasaju

On Tue, 18 Sep 2018, 08:27 Pankaj Kumar,  wrote:

> I just inquired my friends. they say there is only one species planted in
> HK and that is Galphimia gracilis.
> Sorry for wrong name before.
> Thanks and regards
> Pankaj
>
>
> On Tue, 18 Sep 2018 at 10:18, Ushadi Micromini 
> wrote:
>
>> thank you, Garg ji
>> one more thing oked.
>> you are tireless.
>> i am glad
>>
>> usha di
>>
>> On Tue, Sep 18, 2018 at 7:40 AM, J.M. Garg  wrote:
>>
>>> I have already corrected all threads earlier identified wrongly in efi
>>> to G. gracilis.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon 17 Sep, 2018, 9:45 PM Ushadi Micromini, <
>>> microminipho...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
 Pankaj
 i have copy pasted and said as much above from univ michigan site
 i gave the link
 and highlighted what they have written. its not my new writing..

 some where else i saw it, but it was a nursery site if i remember
 so i did not copy the link.

 *Dr Sawmy:*
 its Galphimia gracilis. and only way to know for sure  is when fruits
 develop
 the flower petals fall off, per univ mich site. and
 see the link
 and my copy paste above

 and if you work your way thru that site or 15 /20 minutes you will see
 beautiful bw line drawings
 that should give you a better idea of the inflorescence you have etc

 And please send in pictures as a new thread, would love to see it.


 i had this in my balcony for about three years, never got a fruit, no
 pollinators.
 usha di


 On Mon, Sep 17, 2018 at 5:45 PM, J.M. Garg  wrote:

> Yes, Pankaj ji. That is what the referred publication says.
>
>
> On Mon 17 Sep, 2018, 1:37 PM Pankaj Kumar, 
> wrote:
>
>> Galphimia glauca and Galphimia brasilensis are not cultivated? Really?
>> Pankaj
>>
>>
>> On Monday, September 17, 2018, J.M. Garg  wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks Ushadi,
>>> I think you are right. I think we sorted out our posts to this id
>>> after going through the given publication.
>>>
>>> On Sat 15 Sep, 2018, 6:07 PM Ushadi Micromini, <
>>> microminipho...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
 Saroj ji
 it seems only way to tell them apart is to either diligently
 measure  etc
 and
 most importantly
 observe the fruit formation per this write up by univ michigan Ms
 Anderson
 
  scroll
 to the lower third of the page 

 *"Galphimia gracilis* is easily told apart from the true *G.
 glauca* and *G. brasiliensis* by the flowers.
  In *G. gracilis* the petals fall as the fruit matures; in *G.
 glauca* the petals are persistent even in fruit.
 In *G. gracilis* many flowers of a dense inflorescence are open at
 one time, and the petals (claw and limb)
  are 8–14 mm long and 4–8 mm wide;
 in *G. brasiliensis* only 2 or 3 small flowers are open at one
 time on a sparse inflorescence,
  and the petals are only 4–5 mm long and ca. 3 mm wide.
 *Galphimia glauca*
 * and G. brasiliensis are not cultivated. " *


 she also had b&w line drawings that shows the difference of
 inflorescence

 http://webapps.lsa.umich.edu/herb/malpigh/GalClade/Galphimia/GalGrac.html

 http://webapps.lsa.umich.edu/herb/malpigh/GalClade/Galphimia/GalGlau.html

 and our own page is very informative

 https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/m---z/m/malpighiaceae/galphimia/galphimia-gracilis

 https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/indiantreepix/galphimia%7Csort:date/indiantreepix/IO7UlIRMmXA/KX1ndCxYBAAJ
 Gurcharanji has written several times


 this is how i had arrived at the diagnosing my own galphias in the
 balcony, a few years ago, now dead.

 https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/indiantreepix/galphimia%7Csort:date/indiantreepix/NG3d1PG1xSA/NlSVnaeJBAAJ

 and hope this helps in your own opinion making.
 usha di

 On Sat, Sep 15, 2018 at 5:32 PM, Pankaj Kumar <
 sahanipan...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I think this should be Galphimia glauca.
> Thanks for sharing.
> Pankaj
>
>
>
> On Saturday, September 15, 2018, Saroj Kasaju <
> kasajusa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Galphimia gracilis Bartl.
>>
>> Thank you Dr. Subramaniam.
>>
>> Saroj Kasaju
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Sep 15, 2018 at 4:07 PM Bala Subramaniam <
>> balasubramaniam1...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Galphimia gracilis
>>>
>>> On Sat, 15 Sep 2018, 15:43 Saroj K

[efloraofindia:304907] Re: SK1443 15 Sep 2018

2018-09-17 Thread Pankaj Kumar
I just inquired my friends. they say there is only one species planted in
HK and that is Galphimia gracilis.
Sorry for wrong name before.
Thanks and regards
Pankaj


On Tue, 18 Sep 2018 at 10:18, Ushadi Micromini 
wrote:

> thank you, Garg ji
> one more thing oked.
> you are tireless.
> i am glad
>
> usha di
>
> On Tue, Sep 18, 2018 at 7:40 AM, J.M. Garg  wrote:
>
>> I have already corrected all threads earlier identified wrongly in efi to
>> G. gracilis.
>>
>>
>> On Mon 17 Sep, 2018, 9:45 PM Ushadi Micromini, 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Pankaj
>>> i have copy pasted and said as much above from univ michigan site
>>> i gave the link
>>> and highlighted what they have written. its not my new writing..
>>>
>>> some where else i saw it, but it was a nursery site if i remember
>>> so i did not copy the link.
>>>
>>> *Dr Sawmy:*
>>> its Galphimia gracilis. and only way to know for sure  is when fruits
>>> develop
>>> the flower petals fall off, per univ mich site. and
>>> see the link
>>> and my copy paste above
>>>
>>> and if you work your way thru that site or 15 /20 minutes you will see
>>> beautiful bw line drawings
>>> that should give you a better idea of the inflorescence you have etc
>>>
>>> And please send in pictures as a new thread, would love to see it.
>>>
>>>
>>> i had this in my balcony for about three years, never got a fruit, no
>>> pollinators.
>>> usha di
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Sep 17, 2018 at 5:45 PM, J.M. Garg  wrote:
>>>
 Yes, Pankaj ji. That is what the referred publication says.


 On Mon 17 Sep, 2018, 1:37 PM Pankaj Kumar, 
 wrote:

> Galphimia glauca and Galphimia brasilensis are not cultivated? Really?
> Pankaj
>
>
> On Monday, September 17, 2018, J.M. Garg  wrote:
>
>> Thanks Ushadi,
>> I think you are right. I think we sorted out our posts to this id
>> after going through the given publication.
>>
>> On Sat 15 Sep, 2018, 6:07 PM Ushadi Micromini, <
>> microminipho...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Saroj ji
>>> it seems only way to tell them apart is to either diligently
>>> measure  etc
>>> and
>>> most importantly
>>> observe the fruit formation per this write up by univ michigan Ms
>>> Anderson
>>> 
>>>  scroll
>>> to the lower third of the page 
>>>
>>> *"Galphimia gracilis* is easily told apart from the true *G. glauca*
>>>  and *G. brasiliensis* by the flowers.
>>>  In *G. gracilis* the petals fall as the fruit matures; in *G.
>>> glauca* the petals are persistent even in fruit.
>>> In *G. gracilis* many flowers of a dense inflorescence are open at
>>> one time, and the petals (claw and limb)
>>>  are 8–14 mm long and 4–8 mm wide;
>>> in *G. brasiliensis* only 2 or 3 small flowers are open at one time
>>> on a sparse inflorescence,
>>>  and the petals are only 4–5 mm long and ca. 3 mm wide.
>>> *Galphimia glauca*
>>> * and G. brasiliensis are not cultivated. " *
>>>
>>>
>>> she also had b&w line drawings that shows the difference of
>>> inflorescence
>>>
>>> http://webapps.lsa.umich.edu/herb/malpigh/GalClade/Galphimia/GalGrac.html
>>>
>>> http://webapps.lsa.umich.edu/herb/malpigh/GalClade/Galphimia/GalGlau.html
>>>
>>> and our own page is very informative
>>>
>>> https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/m---z/m/malpighiaceae/galphimia/galphimia-gracilis
>>>
>>> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/indiantreepix/galphimia%7Csort:date/indiantreepix/IO7UlIRMmXA/KX1ndCxYBAAJ
>>> Gurcharanji has written several times
>>>
>>>
>>> this is how i had arrived at the diagnosing my own galphias in the
>>> balcony, a few years ago, now dead.
>>>
>>> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/indiantreepix/galphimia%7Csort:date/indiantreepix/NG3d1PG1xSA/NlSVnaeJBAAJ
>>>
>>> and hope this helps in your own opinion making.
>>> usha di
>>>
>>> On Sat, Sep 15, 2018 at 5:32 PM, Pankaj Kumar <
>>> sahanipan...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
 I think this should be Galphimia glauca.
 Thanks for sharing.
 Pankaj



 On Saturday, September 15, 2018, Saroj Kasaju <
 kasajusa...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Galphimia gracilis Bartl.
>
> Thank you Dr. Subramaniam.
>
> Saroj Kasaju
>
>
> On Sat, Sep 15, 2018 at 4:07 PM Bala Subramaniam <
> balasubramaniam1...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Galphimia gracilis
>>
>> On Sat, 15 Sep 2018, 15:43 Saroj Kasaju, 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Dear Members,
>>>
>>> Location: Hong Kong Park
>>> Date: 13 August 2018
>>> Elevation: 200 ft.
>>> Habit : Cultivated
>>>
>>> Thank you.
>>>
>>>

Re: [efloraofindia:304905] Re: SK1445 16 Sep 2018

2018-09-17 Thread J.M. Garg
Thanks a lot, Pankaj ji.

On Tue 18 Sep, 2018, 8:08 AM Pankaj Kumar,  wrote:

> In China there are three introduced species, Araucaria bidwilii, A.
> heterophylla and A. cunninghamii and in Hong Kong, there are two species
> Araucaria heterophylla and A. cunninghamii. They are very different.
> Thanks and regards
> Pankaj
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, 18 Sep 2018 at 10:12, J.M. Garg  wrote:
>
>> I think there are two cultivated species in this genus, which are closely
>> related and very difficult to separate.
>>
>> On Mon 17 Sep, 2018, 9:48 PM Ushadi Micromini, 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> now we have a diagnosis
>>> but it would still be better to have a habit picture
>>> usha di
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Sep 17, 2018 at 5:27 PM, J.M. Garg  wrote:
>>>
 Thanks, Pankaj ji

 On Mon 17 Sep, 2018, 3:56 AM Pankaj Kumar, 
 wrote:

> This should be Araucaria heterophylla.
> Thanks a lot for sharing.
> Pankaj
>
>
> On Sun, 16 Sep 2018 at 23:25, Saroj Kasaju 
> wrote:
>
>> Dear Members,
>>
>> Location: Lantau, Hong Kong
>> Date: 14 August 2018
>> Elevation: 3000 ft.
>> Habit : Cultivated
>>
>> Thank you.
>>
>> Saroj Kasaju
>>
>
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Re: [efloraofindia:304906] Re: SK1442 15 Sep 2018

2018-09-17 Thread Saroj Kasaju
There is an opportunity dear Pankaj.

Saroj Kasaju

On Mon, 17 Sep 2018, 23:13 Ushadi Micromini, 
wrote:

> may be now you will?? :)
> just to show me some?
> usha di
>
>
> On Sat, Sep 15, 2018 at 7:24 PM, Pankaj Kumar 
> wrote:
>
>> I have seen the fruits. Never checked the seeds.
>> Thanks and regards
>> Pankaj
>>
>>
>> On Sat, 15 Sep 2018 at 21:45, Saroj Kasaju  wrote:
>>
>>> Thank you Mr. Garg / Pankaj / Ushadi !
>>>
>>> Saroj Kasaju
>>>
>>> On Sat, 15 Sep 2018, 18:25 Ushadi Micromini, 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 yes beautiful
 so Pankaj
 do they fruit?
 do you have pictures?

 usha di

 On Sat, Sep 15, 2018 at 5:29 PM, Pankaj Kumar 
 wrote:

> Saroj sir’s pics :)
> Yes this is native but planted at many places in hk. Right in central
> along road sides and dividers. Very beautiful tree when loaded with 
> flowers.
> Thanks for sharing.
> Pankaj
>
> On Saturday, September 15, 2018, J.M. Garg  wrote:
>
>> Thanks, Pankaj ji, for the superb presentation.
>>
>> On Sat 15 Sep, 2018, 3:41 PM Saroj Kasaju, 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Dear Members,
>>>
>>> Location: Hong Kong Park
>>> Date: 13 August 2018
>>> Elevation: 200 ft.
>>> Habit : Cultivated
>>>
>>> Elaeocarpus hainanensis Oliv.  ??
>>>
>>> Thank you.
>>>
>>> Saroj Kasaju
>>>
>>
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Re: [efloraofindia:304904] Re: SK1445 16 Sep 2018

2018-09-17 Thread Saroj Kasaju
Thank you Pankaj!

Saroj Kasaju

On Tue, 18 Sep 2018, 08:23 Pankaj Kumar,  wrote:

> In China there are three introduced species, Araucaria bidwilii, A.
> heterophylla and A. cunninghamii and in Hong Kong, there are two species
> Araucaria heterophylla and A. cunninghamii. They are very different.
> Thanks and regards
> Pankaj
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, 18 Sep 2018 at 10:12, J.M. Garg  wrote:
>
>> I think there are two cultivated species in this genus, which are closely
>> related and very difficult to separate.
>>
>> On Mon 17 Sep, 2018, 9:48 PM Ushadi Micromini, 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> now we have a diagnosis
>>> but it would still be better to have a habit picture
>>> usha di
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Sep 17, 2018 at 5:27 PM, J.M. Garg  wrote:
>>>
 Thanks, Pankaj ji

 On Mon 17 Sep, 2018, 3:56 AM Pankaj Kumar, 
 wrote:

> This should be Araucaria heterophylla.
> Thanks a lot for sharing.
> Pankaj
>
>
> On Sun, 16 Sep 2018 at 23:25, Saroj Kasaju 
> wrote:
>
>> Dear Members,
>>
>> Location: Lantau, Hong Kong
>> Date: 14 August 2018
>> Elevation: 3000 ft.
>> Habit : Cultivated
>>
>> Thank you.
>>
>> Saroj Kasaju
>>
>
>
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Re: [efloraofindia:304902] Re: SK1445 16 Sep 2018

2018-09-17 Thread Pankaj Kumar
In China there are three introduced species, Araucaria bidwilii, A.
heterophylla and A. cunninghamii and in Hong Kong, there are two species
Araucaria heterophylla and A. cunninghamii. They are very different.
Thanks and regards
Pankaj




On Tue, 18 Sep 2018 at 10:12, J.M. Garg  wrote:

> I think there are two cultivated species in this genus, which are closely
> related and very difficult to separate.
>
> On Mon 17 Sep, 2018, 9:48 PM Ushadi Micromini, 
> wrote:
>
>> now we have a diagnosis
>> but it would still be better to have a habit picture
>> usha di
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Sep 17, 2018 at 5:27 PM, J.M. Garg  wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks, Pankaj ji
>>>
>>> On Mon 17 Sep, 2018, 3:56 AM Pankaj Kumar, 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 This should be Araucaria heterophylla.
 Thanks a lot for sharing.
 Pankaj


 On Sun, 16 Sep 2018 at 23:25, Saroj Kasaju 
 wrote:

> Dear Members,
>
> Location: Lantau, Hong Kong
> Date: 14 August 2018
> Elevation: 3000 ft.
> Habit : Cultivated
>
> Thank you.
>
> Saroj Kasaju
>


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[efloraofindia:304901] Re: Wild flower 03 for ID

2018-09-17 Thread J.M. Garg
Thanks, Devi ji.

On Tue 18 Sep, 2018, 7:51 AM Devi Nair,  wrote:

> Thank you Garg’ji.
>
> To my untrained eyes it looks like M. Pentaphylla. But in the pictures the
> flowers have 5 petals whereas mine has only 4 petals.
>
> May be able to observe closely on location tomorrow. Will try and study at
> close quarters and get some more pictures.
>
> On Tuesday, 18 September 2018, J.M. Garg  wrote:
>
>> Pl. check comparative images as per suggestion from Mahadeswara ji at
>> https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/m---z/m/molluginaceae/mollugo
>>
>> On Mon 17 Sep, 2018, 6:31 PM Devi Nair,  wrote:
>>
>>> Thank you Mahadeshwar’ji. I do not have any more photos as of now.
>>>
>>> On Monday, 17 September 2018, J.M. Garg  wrote:
>>>
 Thanks, Mahadeswara ji

 On Mon 17 Sep, 2018, 10:48 AM Mahadeswara, 
 wrote:

> *Mollugo* species.  Any close up photos of  flowers and foliage ?
>
> On Sunday, September 16, 2018 at 8:12:45 PM UTC+5:30, Devi wrote:
>>
>> Dear Members,
>>
>> For ID.
>>
>> Date: 06/09/18
>>
>> Location : Jawalagiri (near Hosur)
>> Altitude   : 997 ASL
>> Habitat.   : wild
>>
>>
>> The last picture is of the same plant when dried.
>>
>>
>>
>> Thank you.
>> Devi.
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[efloraofindia:304900] Re: Acanthus id from Bangladesh_sm_4000

2018-09-17 Thread J.M. Garg
Thanks, Sourav ji

On Tue 18 Sep, 2018, 7:29 AM Sourav Mahmud,  wrote:

> Location : sonadia Island, Cox's Bazar
> Habitat:Mangrove
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[efloraofindia:304898] Re: SK1443 15 Sep 2018

2018-09-17 Thread Ushadi Micromini
thank you, Garg ji
one more thing oked.
you are tireless.
i am glad

usha di

On Tue, Sep 18, 2018 at 7:40 AM, J.M. Garg  wrote:

> I have already corrected all threads earlier identified wrongly in efi to
> G. gracilis.
>
>
> On Mon 17 Sep, 2018, 9:45 PM Ushadi Micromini, 
> wrote:
>
>> Pankaj
>> i have copy pasted and said as much above from univ michigan site
>> i gave the link
>> and highlighted what they have written. its not my new writing..
>>
>> some where else i saw it, but it was a nursery site if i remember
>> so i did not copy the link.
>>
>> *Dr Sawmy:*
>> its Galphimia gracilis. and only way to know for sure  is when fruits
>> develop
>> the flower petals fall off, per univ mich site. and
>> see the link
>> and my copy paste above
>>
>> and if you work your way thru that site or 15 /20 minutes you will see
>> beautiful bw line drawings
>> that should give you a better idea of the inflorescence you have etc
>>
>> And please send in pictures as a new thread, would love to see it.
>>
>>
>> i had this in my balcony for about three years, never got a fruit, no
>> pollinators.
>> usha di
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Sep 17, 2018 at 5:45 PM, J.M. Garg  wrote:
>>
>>> Yes, Pankaj ji. That is what the referred publication says.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon 17 Sep, 2018, 1:37 PM Pankaj Kumar, 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Galphimia glauca and Galphimia brasilensis are not cultivated? Really?
 Pankaj


 On Monday, September 17, 2018, J.M. Garg  wrote:

> Thanks Ushadi,
> I think you are right. I think we sorted out our posts to this id
> after going through the given publication.
>
> On Sat 15 Sep, 2018, 6:07 PM Ushadi Micromini, <
> microminipho...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Saroj ji
>> it seems only way to tell them apart is to either diligently measure
>> etc
>> and
>> most importantly
>> observe the fruit formation per this write up by univ michigan Ms
>> Anderson
>>  
>> scroll
>> to the lower third of the page 
>>
>> *"Galphimia gracilis* is easily told apart from the true *G. glauca*
>> and *G. brasiliensis* by the flowers.
>>  In *G. gracilis* the petals fall as the fruit matures; in *G.
>> glauca* the petals are persistent even in fruit.
>> In *G. gracilis* many flowers of a dense inflorescence are open at
>> one time, and the petals (claw and limb)
>>  are 8–14 mm long and 4–8 mm wide;
>> in *G. brasiliensis* only 2 or 3 small flowers are open at one time
>> on a sparse inflorescence,
>>  and the petals are only 4–5 mm long and ca. 3 mm wide.
>> *Galphimia glauca*
>> * and G. brasiliensis are not cultivated. " *
>>
>>
>> she also had b&w line drawings that shows the difference of
>> inflorescence
>> http://webapps.lsa.umich.edu/herb/malpigh/GalClade/
>> Galphimia/GalGrac.html
>> http://webapps.lsa.umich.edu/herb/malpigh/GalClade/
>> Galphimia/GalGlau.html
>>
>> and our own page is very informative
>> https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/m---z/m/
>> malpighiaceae/galphimia/galphimia-gracilis
>> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/indiantreepix/galphimia%
>> 7Csort:date/indiantreepix/IO7UlIRMmXA/KX1ndCxYBAAJ
>> Gurcharanji has written several times
>>
>>
>> this is how i had arrived at the diagnosing my own galphias in the
>> balcony, a few years ago, now dead.
>> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/indiantreepix/galphimia%
>> 7Csort:date/indiantreepix/NG3d1PG1xSA/NlSVnaeJBAAJ
>>
>> and hope this helps in your own opinion making.
>> usha di
>>
>> On Sat, Sep 15, 2018 at 5:32 PM, Pankaj Kumar > > wrote:
>>
>>> I think this should be Galphimia glauca.
>>> Thanks for sharing.
>>> Pankaj
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Saturday, September 15, 2018, Saroj Kasaju 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Galphimia gracilis Bartl.

 Thank you Dr. Subramaniam.

 Saroj Kasaju


 On Sat, Sep 15, 2018 at 4:07 PM Bala Subramaniam <
 balasubramaniam1...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Galphimia gracilis
>
> On Sat, 15 Sep 2018, 15:43 Saroj Kasaju, 
> wrote:
>
>> Dear Members,
>>
>> Location: Hong Kong Park
>> Date: 13 August 2018
>> Elevation: 200 ft.
>> Habit : Cultivated
>>
>> Thank you.
>>
>> Saroj Kasaju
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Re: [efloraofindia:304899] 170-TSP-ID-17SEP2018-1 A medium size tree near Arasikere for ID

2018-09-17 Thread J.M. Garg
Thanks a lot, Tapas ji, for the detailed inputs and analysis


On Tue 18 Sep, 2018, 1:33 AM Tapas Chakrabarty,  wrote:

> The identity is okay but there is problem with regard to fixing the
> correct name.
> Govaerts et al. in World Checkl. Bibl. Eubohorb. 3: 937. 2000 treated 
> *Givotia moluccana
> *(L.) Sreem. as the accepted name and the treatment by Jarvis (2007) in
> the book Order out of Chaos supported this:
>
> *Croton moluccanus* Linnaeus, *Species Plantarum *2: 1005. 1753.
>
> "Habitat in Zeylona, Moluccis."
>
> Lectotype (Prain in *Bull. Misc. Inform. Kew *1918: 67. 1918): Herb.
> Hermann 1: 33, No. 346 (BM-000594464).
> *Note: *Specific epithet spelled "moluccanum" in the protologue. = *Givotia
> moluccana *(L.) Sreem.
>
> However, Balakrishnan & Chakrabarty (2007) follower the treatment of
> Radcliffe-Smith as follows:
> *Givotia rottleriformis *Griff. in Calcutta J. Nat. Hist. 4: 88. 1844] ex
> Wight, Icon. Pl. Ind. Orient. 5: 24, t. 1889. 1852; Hook.f., Fl. Brit.
> India 5: 395. 1887; Radcl.-Sm. in Kew Bull. 22: 504. 1968.
>
> They noted: Sreemadhavan (Taxon 24: 696. 1975) made the new combination 
> *Givotia
> moluccana* (L.) Sreem. based on *Croton moluccanum* L., Sp. Pl. 1005.
> 1753, excl. ref. Burman.  Radcliffe-Smith (Kew Bull. 22: 504. 1968)
> rejected the name *Croton moluccanum* as nomen confusum, since the
> reference to Burman given by Linnaeus could not belong to this species.  
> Hence,
> the earlier validly published name is adopted here.
>
> Now, an examination of the images of the type materials reveals that the
> designation of lectotype by Prain still contains more than one specimen and
> this may be treated as the First-step of lectotypification (Art. 9.17;
> Turland et al. 2018). However, as  the situation is indeed very complicated
> and the matter needs physical re-examination of all the original Linnaean
> materials, it is better for the present to accept the name suggested by
> Radcliffe-Smith and call this as *Givotia rottleriformis *Griff. ex Wight.
>
> Thank you.
>
>
>
> On Mon, Sep 17, 2018 at 9:07 PM tsp kumar  wrote:
>
>> Thanks Shrikant ji
>> regards
>> tspkumar
>>
>> On Mon, Sep 17, 2018 at 7:12 PM J.M. Garg  wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks, Shrikant ji.
>>>
>>> On 17 September 2018 at 19:01, Shrikant Ingalhalikar <
>>> shrikant.ingalhali...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
 Givotia moluccana

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Re: [efloraofindia:304897] Albizia sherriffii (Leguminosae: Mimosoideae)

2018-09-17 Thread J.M. Garg
Thanks a lot, Tapas ji

On Tue 18 Sep, 2018, 12:40 AM Tapas Chakrabarty,  wrote:

> Photographer: Mr. *Santanu Dey*
> Botanical name: *Albizia sherriffii *Baker.f. (Leguminosae: Mimosoideae).
> Location: Nagaland, India
> Habit: Trees, 10 - 20 m high.
> Habitat: In primary forests between 800 - 1200 m altitudes, ascending to
> 2000 m on the Himalayas (in subtropical forests).
> Abundance: Rare.
> Distribution: India (Sikkim, North-East India), Bhutan, Myanmar and China.
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[efloraofindia:304894] Re: Solanum grandiflorum Ruiz & Pav.

2018-09-17 Thread Saroj Kasaju
Thank you Mr. Garg.

Saroj Kasaju

On Tue, 18 Sep 2018, 07:44 J.M. Garg,  wrote:

> Thanks, Saroj ji, for the crisp images.
>
> On Mon 17 Sep, 2018, 8:31 PM Saroj Kasaju,  wrote:
>
>> Dear Members,
>>
>> Location: Lantau, Hong Kong
>> Date: 14 August 2018
>> Elevation: 3000 ft.
>> Habit : Cultivated
>>
>> Thank you.
>>
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[efloraofindia:304893] Re: SK1448 17 Sep 2018

2018-09-17 Thread Saroj Kasaju
Thank you Mr. Garg.

Saroj Kasaju

On Tue, 18 Sep 2018, 07:42 J.M. Garg,  wrote:

> Thanks, Saroj ji, for the wonderful close ups.
>
> On Mon 17 Sep, 2018, 8:28 PM Saroj Kasaju,  wrote:
>
>> Dear Members,
>>
>> Location: Lantau, Hong Kong
>> Date: 14 August 2018
>> Elevation: 3000 ft.
>> Habit : Wild
>>
>> Torenia asiatica L.  ??
>>
>> Thank you.
>>
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[efloraofindia:304895] Re: SK1447 17 Sep 2018

2018-09-17 Thread Saroj Kasaju
Thank you Mr. Garg.

Saroj Kasaju

On Tue, 18 Sep 2018, 07:42 J.M. Garg,  wrote:

> Thanks, Saroj ji, for the beautiful images
>
> On Mon 17 Sep, 2018, 8:08 PM Saroj Kasaju,  wrote:
>
>> Dear Members,
>>
>> Location: Lantau, Hong Kong
>> Date: 14 August 2018
>> Elevation: 3000 ft.
>> Habit : Wild
>>
>> Which Lamiacdeae ?? Plectranthus ???
>>
>> Thank you.
>>
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[efloraofindia:304892] Re: Zephyranthes candida (Lindl.) Herb.

2018-09-17 Thread Saroj Kasaju
Thank you Mr. Garg.

Saroj Kasaju

On Tue, 18 Sep 2018, 07:43 J.M. Garg,  wrote:

> Thanks, Saroj ji, for the beautiful images
>
> On Mon 17 Sep, 2018, 8:36 PM Saroj Kasaju,  wrote:
>
>> Dear Members,
>>
>> Location: Lantau, Hong Kong
>> Date: 14 August 2018
>> Elevation: 3000 ft.
>> Habit : Cultivated
>>
>> Thank you.
>>
>> Saroj Kasaju
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[efloraofindia:304891] Re: SK1449 17 Sep 2018

2018-09-17 Thread Saroj Kasaju
Thank you Mr. Garg.

Saroj Kasaju

On Tue, 18 Sep 2018, 07:44 J.M. Garg,  wrote:

> Thanks, Saroj ji for the wonderful images
>
> On Mon 17 Sep, 2018, 8:47 PM Saroj Kasaju,  wrote:
>
>> Dear Members,
>>
>> Location: Lantau, Hong Kong
>> Date: 14 August 2018
>> Elevation: 3000 ft.
>> Habit : Wild
>>
>> Clerodendrum japonicum (Thunb.) Sweet ??
>>
>> Thank you.
>>
>> Saroj Kasaju
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Re: [efloraofindia:304890] Exacum pumilum Griseb @ Tamhini ghat

2018-09-17 Thread J.M. Garg
Thanks, Samir ji for the beautiful images

On Mon 17 Sep, 2018, 10:54 PM Samir Mehta,  wrote:

> Dear Group members,
>
> I have identified this as E pumilum on the basis of it's winged calyx and
> few flowered raceme.
> Is there any other parameter on which it can be differentiated from Exacum
> pedunculatum?
>
> Regards,
>
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Re: [efloraofindia:304888] Re: SK1445 16 Sep 2018

2018-09-17 Thread J.M. Garg
I think there are two cultivated species in this genus, which are closely
related and very difficult to separate.

On Mon 17 Sep, 2018, 9:48 PM Ushadi Micromini, 
wrote:

> now we have a diagnosis
> but it would still be better to have a habit picture
> usha di
>
>
> On Mon, Sep 17, 2018 at 5:27 PM, J.M. Garg  wrote:
>
>> Thanks, Pankaj ji
>>
>> On Mon 17 Sep, 2018, 3:56 AM Pankaj Kumar, 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> This should be Araucaria heterophylla.
>>> Thanks a lot for sharing.
>>> Pankaj
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, 16 Sep 2018 at 23:25, Saroj Kasaju 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Dear Members,

 Location: Lantau, Hong Kong
 Date: 14 August 2018
 Elevation: 3000 ft.
 Habit : Cultivated

 Thank you.

 Saroj Kasaju

>>>
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>>>
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[efloraofindia:304887] Re: SK1443 15 Sep 2018

2018-09-17 Thread J.M. Garg
I have already corrected all threads earlier identified wrongly in efi to
G. gracilis.

On Mon 17 Sep, 2018, 9:45 PM Ushadi Micromini, 
wrote:

> Pankaj
> i have copy pasted and said as much above from univ michigan site
> i gave the link
> and highlighted what they have written. its not my new writing..
>
> some where else i saw it, but it was a nursery site if i remember
> so i did not copy the link.
>
> *Dr Sawmy:*
> its Galphimia gracilis. and only way to know for sure  is when fruits
> develop
> the flower petals fall off, per univ mich site. and
> see the link
> and my copy paste above
>
> and if you work your way thru that site or 15 /20 minutes you will see
> beautiful bw line drawings
> that should give you a better idea of the inflorescence you have etc
>
> And please send in pictures as a new thread, would love to see it.
>
>
> i had this in my balcony for about three years, never got a fruit, no
> pollinators.
> usha di
>
>
> On Mon, Sep 17, 2018 at 5:45 PM, J.M. Garg  wrote:
>
>> Yes, Pankaj ji. That is what the referred publication says.
>>
>>
>> On Mon 17 Sep, 2018, 1:37 PM Pankaj Kumar, 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Galphimia glauca and Galphimia brasilensis are not cultivated? Really?
>>> Pankaj
>>>
>>>
>>> On Monday, September 17, 2018, J.M. Garg  wrote:
>>>
 Thanks Ushadi,
 I think you are right. I think we sorted out our posts to this id after
 going through the given publication.

 On Sat 15 Sep, 2018, 6:07 PM Ushadi Micromini, <
 microminipho...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Saroj ji
> it seems only way to tell them apart is to either diligently measure
> etc
> and
> most importantly
> observe the fruit formation per this write up by univ michigan Ms
> Anderson
>  
> scroll
> to the lower third of the page 
>
> *"Galphimia gracilis* is easily told apart from the true *G. glauca*
> and *G. brasiliensis* by the flowers.
>  In *G. gracilis* the petals fall as the fruit matures; in *G. glauca*
>  the petals are persistent even in fruit.
> In *G. gracilis* many flowers of a dense inflorescence are open at
> one time, and the petals (claw and limb)
>  are 8–14 mm long and 4–8 mm wide;
> in *G. brasiliensis* only 2 or 3 small flowers are open at one time
> on a sparse inflorescence,
>  and the petals are only 4–5 mm long and ca. 3 mm wide.
> *Galphimia glauca*
> * and G. brasiliensis are not cultivated. " *
>
>
> she also had b&w line drawings that shows the difference of
> inflorescence
>
> http://webapps.lsa.umich.edu/herb/malpigh/GalClade/Galphimia/GalGrac.html
>
> http://webapps.lsa.umich.edu/herb/malpigh/GalClade/Galphimia/GalGlau.html
>
> and our own page is very informative
>
> https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/m---z/m/malpighiaceae/galphimia/galphimia-gracilis
>
> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/indiantreepix/galphimia%7Csort:date/indiantreepix/IO7UlIRMmXA/KX1ndCxYBAAJ
> Gurcharanji has written several times
>
>
> this is how i had arrived at the diagnosing my own galphias in the
> balcony, a few years ago, now dead.
>
> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/indiantreepix/galphimia%7Csort:date/indiantreepix/NG3d1PG1xSA/NlSVnaeJBAAJ
>
> and hope this helps in your own opinion making.
> usha di
>
> On Sat, Sep 15, 2018 at 5:32 PM, Pankaj Kumar 
> wrote:
>
>> I think this should be Galphimia glauca.
>> Thanks for sharing.
>> Pankaj
>>
>>
>>
>> On Saturday, September 15, 2018, Saroj Kasaju 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Galphimia gracilis Bartl.
>>>
>>> Thank you Dr. Subramaniam.
>>>
>>> Saroj Kasaju
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, Sep 15, 2018 at 4:07 PM Bala Subramaniam <
>>> balasubramaniam1...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
 Galphimia gracilis

 On Sat, 15 Sep 2018, 15:43 Saroj Kasaju, 
 wrote:

> Dear Members,
>
> Location: Hong Kong Park
> Date: 13 August 2018
> Elevation: 200 ft.
> Habit : Cultivated
>
> Thank you.
>
> Saroj Kasaju
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Re: [efloraofindia:304886] Centranthera cochinchinensis var. nepalensis

2018-09-17 Thread J.M. Garg
Thanks, Ashutosh ji.
Pl. go through all the posts in efi site. If you can sort them in C. indica
and C.c.var.nepalensis, than only I can agree. After going through all
posts in efi site, I have come to this conclusion and there are many book
references in the efi site link, which give both as same.

On Mon 17 Sep, 2018, 9:18 PM ashutoshsharma11sn, <
ashutoshsharma1...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Garg ji Centranthera indica is different from Centranthera cochinchinensis
> var. nepalensis (Synonyms - C.nepalensis)
> Centranthera indica has much longer flowers about 2-2.5cms long and plant
> height is also more than 10cms.
>
> Whereas Centranthera cochinchinensis var. nepalensis have small flowers
> generally not longer than 1.5cms also the plants are as small as upto 5cms
> in length.
> Here's a link showing differences
>
> https://www.google.com/url?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.jstor.org%2Fstable%2F2481130%3FSearch%3Dyes%26resultItemClick%3Dtrue%26searchText%3DCentranthera%26searchText%3Dindica%26searchUri%3D%252Faction%252FdoBasicSearch%253FQuery%253DCentranthera%252Bindica%26refreqid%3Dsearch%253A1d99babeb2023ff8a50486d3cd6b2018%26seq%3D2%26loggedin%3Dtrue%23metadata_info_tab_contents&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFQjCNGcKYRhCoHbIDo11yp7dDhJ9B8Ghw
>
> Also sir both names Centranthera indica as well as Centranthera
> cochinchinensis var. nepalensis are mentioned as accepted name in plant
> list as well as in Catalogue of Life.
>
> Here's the link providing different Centranthera species mentioned in COL-
>
> http://www.catalogueoflife.org/annual-checklist/2018/search/all/key/Centranthera/fossil/1/match/1
>
> Best regards
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[efloraofindia:304885] Re: SK1449 17 Sep 2018

2018-09-17 Thread J.M. Garg
Thanks, Saroj ji for the wonderful images

On Mon 17 Sep, 2018, 8:47 PM Saroj Kasaju,  wrote:

> Dear Members,
>
> Location: Lantau, Hong Kong
> Date: 14 August 2018
> Elevation: 3000 ft.
> Habit : Wild
>
> Clerodendrum japonicum (Thunb.) Sweet ??
>
> Thank you.
>
> Saroj Kasaju
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[efloraofindia:304884] Re: Solanum grandiflorum Ruiz & Pav.

2018-09-17 Thread J.M. Garg
Thanks, Saroj ji, for the crisp images.

On Mon 17 Sep, 2018, 8:31 PM Saroj Kasaju,  wrote:

> Dear Members,
>
> Location: Lantau, Hong Kong
> Date: 14 August 2018
> Elevation: 3000 ft.
> Habit : Cultivated
>
> Thank you.
>
> Saroj Kasaju
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[efloraofindia:304882] Re: SK1448 17 Sep 2018

2018-09-17 Thread J.M. Garg
Thanks, Saroj ji, for the wonderful close ups.

On Mon 17 Sep, 2018, 8:28 PM Saroj Kasaju,  wrote:

> Dear Members,
>
> Location: Lantau, Hong Kong
> Date: 14 August 2018
> Elevation: 3000 ft.
> Habit : Wild
>
> Torenia asiatica L.  ??
>
> Thank you.
>
> Saroj Kasaju
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[efloraofindia:304883] Re: Zephyranthes candida (Lindl.) Herb.

2018-09-17 Thread J.M. Garg
Thanks, Saroj ji, for the beautiful images

On Mon 17 Sep, 2018, 8:36 PM Saroj Kasaju,  wrote:

> Dear Members,
>
> Location: Lantau, Hong Kong
> Date: 14 August 2018
> Elevation: 3000 ft.
> Habit : Cultivated
>
> Thank you.
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[efloraofindia:304881] Re: SK1447 17 Sep 2018

2018-09-17 Thread J.M. Garg
Thanks, Saroj ji, for the beautiful images

On Mon 17 Sep, 2018, 8:08 PM Saroj Kasaju,  wrote:

> Dear Members,
>
> Location: Lantau, Hong Kong
> Date: 14 August 2018
> Elevation: 3000 ft.
> Habit : Wild
>
> Which Lamiacdeae ?? Plectranthus ???
>
> Thank you.
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Re: [efloraofindia:304880] MS Sept.2018/17 Schefflera sp. for ID

2018-09-17 Thread J.M. Garg
Thanks, Sawmliana ji

On Mon 17 Sep, 2018, 8:12 PM M Sawmliana,  wrote:

> Schefflera pueckleri (= Tupidanthus calyptratus) ?
>
> On Sep 17, 2018 7:47 PM, "J.M. Garg"  wrote:
>
>> Thanks, Kanhaiya Lal ji.
>>
>> On 17 September 2018 at 19:34, Kanhaiya Lal Chaudhary <
>> klchaudhar...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Please check Tupidanthes sp also...
>>> Regards
>>>
>>> On Mon, 17 Sep 2018, 09:39 J.M. Garg,  wrote:
>>>
 Pl. check comparative images at
 https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/a---l/ar/araliaceae/schefflera

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 Subject: [efloraofindia:304734] MS Sept.2018/17 Schefflera sp. for ID
 To: efloraofindia 


 Location : Ailawng, Mizoram
 Altitude : 1,200 - 1,300 m.
 Date : 13-09-2018
 Habit : Epiphytic, scandent shrub ?
 Habitat : Wild.
 Note : Fruit not yet fully grown,
about 2-3 cm dia.

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[efloraofindia:304879] Re: Wild flower 03 for ID

2018-09-17 Thread J.M. Garg
Pl. check comparative images as per suggestion from Mahadeswara ji at
https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/m---z/m/molluginaceae/mollugo

On Mon 17 Sep, 2018, 6:31 PM Devi Nair,  wrote:

> Thank you Mahadeshwar’ji. I do not have any more photos as of now.
>
> On Monday, 17 September 2018, J.M. Garg  wrote:
>
>> Thanks, Mahadeswara ji
>>
>> On Mon 17 Sep, 2018, 10:48 AM Mahadeswara,  wrote:
>>
>>> *Mollugo* species.  Any close up photos of  flowers and foliage ?
>>>
>>> On Sunday, September 16, 2018 at 8:12:45 PM UTC+5:30, Devi wrote:

 Dear Members,

 For ID.

 Date: 06/09/18

 Location : Jawalagiri (near Hosur)
 Altitude   : 997 ASL
 Habitat.   : wild


 The last picture is of the same plant when dried.



 Thank you.
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Re: [efloraofindia:304878] Galeola falconeri (Orchidaceae)

2018-09-17 Thread J.M. Garg
Thanks, Pankaj ji and Ashutosh ji.

On Tue 18 Sep, 2018, 4:16 AM Pankaj Kumar,  wrote:

> There are two types of plants based on how they produce food. Plants with
> green pigments (chlorophyll) basically produce their food by using sunlight
> and are called autotrophic plants. Plants that cant produce their own food,
> due to lack of green pigments are heterotrophic plants. Among them are the
> plants that use fungal (mycorrhizae) association to produce food. So they
> are called myco-heterotrophic plants.
> Not just applicable to plants. All animals are heterotrophis.
> Pankaj
>
>
> On Tue, 18 Sep 2018 at 00:16, Ushadi Micromini 
> wrote:
>
>> what exactly is  myco-heterotrophic
>>
>> ???
>> usha di
>>
>> On Mon, Sep 17, 2018 at 5:37 PM, Pankaj Kumar 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Cant confirm without flowers, but yes Galeola.
>>> Thanks a lot for sharing.
>>> Pankaj
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, 17 Sep 2018 at 20:05, J.M. Garg  wrote:
>>>
 Thanks a lot, Ashutosh ji

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 Date: Mon 17 Sep, 2018, 1:20 PM
 Subject: [efloraofindia:304810] Galeola falconeri (Orchidaceae)
 To: indiantreepix 


 Respected members,

 Here are the images of matured plant of rare myco-heterotrophic Orchid
 Galeola falconeri
 Falconer's Galeola

 Seed pods are 9 -10cms long enclosing thousands of tiny white seeds.
 Photographed at Kullu District ,Himachal Pradesh
 Altitude - 2100meters
 August 2018

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Re: [efloraofindia:304877] Galeola falconeri (Orchidaceae)

2018-09-17 Thread Ushadi Micromini
yes apes and humans are too
so are the fish whales and the frogs!

most everybody we know inthe zoo  :)
thanks pankaj
usha di

On Tue, Sep 18, 2018 at 4:16 AM, Pankaj Kumar 
wrote:

> There are two types of plants based on how they produce food. Plants with
> green pigments (chlorophyll) basically produce their food by using sunlight
> and are called autotrophic plants. Plants that cant produce their own food,
> due to lack of green pigments are heterotrophic plants. Among them are the
> plants that use fungal (mycorrhizae) association to produce food. So they
> are called myco-heterotrophic plants.
> Not just applicable to plants. All animals are heterotrophis.
> Pankaj
>
>
> On Tue, 18 Sep 2018 at 00:16, Ushadi Micromini 
> wrote:
>
>> what exactly is  myco-heterotrophic
>>
>> ???
>> usha di
>>
>> On Mon, Sep 17, 2018 at 5:37 PM, Pankaj Kumar 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Cant confirm without flowers, but yes Galeola.
>>> Thanks a lot for sharing.
>>> Pankaj
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, 17 Sep 2018 at 20:05, J.M. Garg  wrote:
>>>
 Thanks a lot, Ashutosh ji

 -- Forwarded message -
 From: Ashutosh Sharma 
 Date: Mon 17 Sep, 2018, 1:20 PM
 Subject: [efloraofindia:304810] Galeola falconeri (Orchidaceae)
 To: indiantreepix 


 Respected members,

 Here are the images of matured plant of rare myco-heterotrophic Orchid
 Galeola falconeri
 Falconer's Galeola

 Seed pods are 9 -10cms long enclosing thousands of tiny white seeds.
 Photographed at Kullu District ,Himachal Pradesh
 Altitude - 2100meters
 August 2018

 Best regards
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>>>
>>>
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>>>
>>> *Office*:
>>>
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>>>
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>>>
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>>>
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Re: [efloraofindia:304876] Galeola falconeri (Orchidaceae)

2018-09-17 Thread Pankaj Kumar
There are two types of plants based on how they produce food. Plants with
green pigments (chlorophyll) basically produce their food by using sunlight
and are called autotrophic plants. Plants that cant produce their own food,
due to lack of green pigments are heterotrophic plants. Among them are the
plants that use fungal (mycorrhizae) association to produce food. So they
are called myco-heterotrophic plants.
Not just applicable to plants. All animals are heterotrophis.
Pankaj


On Tue, 18 Sep 2018 at 00:16, Ushadi Micromini 
wrote:

> what exactly is  myco-heterotrophic
>
> ???
> usha di
>
> On Mon, Sep 17, 2018 at 5:37 PM, Pankaj Kumar 
> wrote:
>
>> Cant confirm without flowers, but yes Galeola.
>> Thanks a lot for sharing.
>> Pankaj
>>
>>
>> On Mon, 17 Sep 2018 at 20:05, J.M. Garg  wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks a lot, Ashutosh ji
>>>
>>> -- Forwarded message -
>>> From: Ashutosh Sharma 
>>> Date: Mon 17 Sep, 2018, 1:20 PM
>>> Subject: [efloraofindia:304810] Galeola falconeri (Orchidaceae)
>>> To: indiantreepix 
>>>
>>>
>>> Respected members,
>>>
>>> Here are the images of matured plant of rare myco-heterotrophic Orchid
>>> Galeola falconeri
>>> Falconer's Galeola
>>>
>>> Seed pods are 9 -10cms long enclosing thousands of tiny white seeds.
>>> Photographed at Kullu District ,Himachal Pradesh
>>> Altitude - 2100meters
>>> August 2018
>>>
>>> Best regards
>>> Ashutosh Sharma
>>>
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>>
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>>
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>>
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>>
>> Kadoorie Farm and Botanic Garden (KFBG) Corporation
>> Lam Kam Road, Tai Po, New Territories, Hong Kong S.A.R., China
>>
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Re: [efloraofindia:304875] 170-TSP-ID-17SEP2018-1 A medium size tree near Arasikere for ID

2018-09-17 Thread Tapas Chakrabarty
The identity is okay but there is problem with regard to fixing the correct
name.
Govaerts et al. in World Checkl. Bibl. Eubohorb. 3: 937. 2000 treated
*Givotia moluccana
*(L.) Sreem. as the accepted name and the treatment by Jarvis (2007) in the
book Order out of Chaos supported this:

*Croton moluccanus* Linnaeus, *Species Plantarum *2: 1005. 1753.

"Habitat in Zeylona, Moluccis."

Lectotype (Prain in *Bull. Misc. Inform. Kew *1918: 67. 1918): Herb.
Hermann 1: 33, No. 346 (BM-000594464).
*Note: *Specific epithet spelled "moluccanum" in the protologue. = *Givotia
moluccana *(L.) Sreem.

However, Balakrishnan & Chakrabarty (2007) follower the treatment of
Radcliffe-Smith as follows:
*Givotia rottleriformis *Griff. in Calcutta J. Nat. Hist. 4: 88. 1844] ex
Wight, Icon. Pl. Ind. Orient. 5: 24, t. 1889. 1852; Hook.f., Fl. Brit.
India 5: 395. 1887; Radcl.-Sm. in Kew Bull. 22: 504. 1968.

They noted: Sreemadhavan (Taxon 24: 696. 1975) made the new
combination *Givotia
moluccana* (L.) Sreem. based on *Croton moluccanum* L., Sp. Pl. 1005. 1753,
excl. ref. Burman.  Radcliffe-Smith (Kew Bull. 22: 504. 1968) rejected the
name *Croton moluccanum* as nomen confusum, since the reference to Burman
given by Linnaeus could not belong to this species.  Hence, the earlier
validly published name is adopted here.

Now, an examination of the images of the type materials reveals that the
designation of lectotype by Prain still contains more than one specimen and
this may be treated as the First-step of lectotypification (Art. 9.17;
Turland et al. 2018). However, as  the situation is indeed very complicated
and the matter needs physical re-examination of all the original Linnaean
materials, it is better for the present to accept the name suggested by
Radcliffe-Smith and call this as *Givotia rottleriformis *Griff. ex Wight.

Thank you.



On Mon, Sep 17, 2018 at 9:07 PM tsp kumar  wrote:

> Thanks Shrikant ji
> regards
> tspkumar
>
> On Mon, Sep 17, 2018 at 7:12 PM J.M. Garg  wrote:
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>> Thanks, Shrikant ji.
>>
>> On 17 September 2018 at 19:01, Shrikant Ingalhalikar <
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>>
>>> Givotia moluccana
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Re: [efloraofindia:304873] Galeola falconeri (Orchidaceae)

2018-09-17 Thread Ushadi Micromini
thank you
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> Ushadi myco-heterotrophic refers to those plants that live in a symbiotic
> relationship between certain kinds of fungi, in which the plant gets all or
> part of its food from parasitism upon fungi rather than from photosynthesis.
> Such plant like this one generally grows in shady humus rich soil
> favouring fungus growth and don't require much sunlight.
>
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Re: [efloraofindia:304873] Galeola falconeri (Orchidaceae)

2018-09-17 Thread ashutoshsharma11sn
Ushadi myco-heterotrophic refers to those plants that live in a symbiotic 
relationship between certain kinds of fungi, in which the plant gets all or 
part of its food from parasitism upon fungi rather than from photosynthesis.
Such plant like this one generally grows in shady humus rich soil favouring 
fungus growth and don't require much sunlight.

Best regards
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Re: [efloraofindia:304871] Henckelia bifolia

2018-09-17 Thread Ushadi Micromini
what an interesting leaf

nice photographs

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> Respected members,
>
> Here are the images of Henckelia bifolia
> Synonyms - Chirita bifolia
> Two Leaved Henckelia/Chirita
> Family - Gesneriaceae
>
> Photographed at Kullu District, Himachal Pradesh
> Altitude - 1800meters
> August 2018
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[efloraofindia:304870] Bharathi raja wants some seeds

2018-09-17 Thread Ushadi Micromini
Dear all:
in another thread our member
ms Bharathi Raja
mentioned that she would appreciate getting seeds , i quote "
I am in interested a plant named Stereospermum chelonoides.Can any one of
you get the seeds for me for propagation purpose.. " end quote

as you all know she has been growing seeds and showing us the growth
phases  etc

so anybody who may have access to these seeds please contact her here by
replying to this thread.

Bharathi ,  flowers of india website has a page
https://www.flowersofindia.net/catalog/slides/Fragrant%20Padri%20Tree.html

pictures are from maharastra state, taken by our own Prashant Awale
he can be a good lead
another person would br Dinesh Valke.

lets hope some seeds turn up.

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Re: [efloraofindia:304868] Re: SK1442 15 Sep 2018

2018-09-17 Thread Ushadi Micromini
may be now you will?? :)
just to show me some?
usha di


On Sat, Sep 15, 2018 at 7:24 PM, Pankaj Kumar 
wrote:

> I have seen the fruits. Never checked the seeds.
> Thanks and regards
> Pankaj
>
>
> On Sat, 15 Sep 2018 at 21:45, Saroj Kasaju  wrote:
>
>> Thank you Mr. Garg / Pankaj / Ushadi !
>>
>> Saroj Kasaju
>>
>> On Sat, 15 Sep 2018, 18:25 Ushadi Micromini, 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> yes beautiful
>>> so Pankaj
>>> do they fruit?
>>> do you have pictures?
>>>
>>> usha di
>>>
>>> On Sat, Sep 15, 2018 at 5:29 PM, Pankaj Kumar 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Saroj sir’s pics :)
 Yes this is native but planted at many places in hk. Right in central
 along road sides and dividers. Very beautiful tree when loaded with 
 flowers.
 Thanks for sharing.
 Pankaj

 On Saturday, September 15, 2018, J.M. Garg  wrote:

> Thanks, Pankaj ji, for the superb presentation.
>
> On Sat 15 Sep, 2018, 3:41 PM Saroj Kasaju, 
> wrote:
>
>> Dear Members,
>>
>> Location: Hong Kong Park
>> Date: 13 August 2018
>> Elevation: 200 ft.
>> Habit : Cultivated
>>
>> Elaeocarpus hainanensis Oliv.  ??
>>
>> Thank you.
>>
>> Saroj Kasaju
>>
>

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Re: [efloraofindia:304865] Fwd: SYMBIOSIS : 1162

2018-09-17 Thread Ushadi Micromini
love it
pavetia ke o rangan bole?

jantum na.

usha di

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> Very nice, Bimal ji.
>
> -- Forwarded message --
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> Date: 17 September 2018 at 06:01
> Subject: SYMBIOSIS : 1162
> To:
>
>
> Attaching a collage of Common Mormon ( male ) visiting flowers of Ixora
> parviflora ( RANGAN )
>
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Re: [efloraofindia:304864] Re: SK1445 16 Sep 2018

2018-09-17 Thread Ushadi Micromini
 now we have a diagnosis
but it would still be better to have a habit picture
usha di


On Mon, Sep 17, 2018 at 5:27 PM, J.M. Garg  wrote:

> Thanks, Pankaj ji
>
> On Mon 17 Sep, 2018, 3:56 AM Pankaj Kumar,  wrote:
>
>> This should be Araucaria heterophylla.
>> Thanks a lot for sharing.
>> Pankaj
>>
>>
>> On Sun, 16 Sep 2018 at 23:25, Saroj Kasaju  wrote:
>>
>>> Dear Members,
>>>
>>> Location: Lantau, Hong Kong
>>> Date: 14 August 2018
>>> Elevation: 3000 ft.
>>> Habit : Cultivated
>>>
>>> Thank you.
>>>
>>> Saroj Kasaju
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> 
>> **
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>>
>> *Office*:
>>
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>>
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>>
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>>
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Re: [efloraofindia:304863] Galeola falconeri (Orchidaceae)

2018-09-17 Thread Ushadi Micromini
what exactly is  myco-heterotrophic

???
usha di

On Mon, Sep 17, 2018 at 5:37 PM, Pankaj Kumar 
wrote:

> Cant confirm without flowers, but yes Galeola.
> Thanks a lot for sharing.
> Pankaj
>
>
> On Mon, 17 Sep 2018 at 20:05, J.M. Garg  wrote:
>
>> Thanks a lot, Ashutosh ji
>>
>> -- Forwarded message -
>> From: Ashutosh Sharma 
>> Date: Mon 17 Sep, 2018, 1:20 PM
>> Subject: [efloraofindia:304810] Galeola falconeri (Orchidaceae)
>> To: indiantreepix 
>>
>>
>> Respected members,
>>
>> Here are the images of matured plant of rare myco-heterotrophic Orchid
>> Galeola falconeri
>> Falconer's Galeola
>>
>> Seed pods are 9 -10cms long enclosing thousands of tiny white seeds.
>> Photographed at Kullu District ,Himachal Pradesh
>> Altitude - 2100meters
>> August 2018
>>
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[efloraofindia:304862] Re: SK1443 15 Sep 2018

2018-09-17 Thread Ushadi Micromini
Pankaj
i have copy pasted and said as much above from univ michigan site
i gave the link
and highlighted what they have written. its not my new writing..

some where else i saw it, but it was a nursery site if i remember
so i did not copy the link.

*Dr Sawmy:*
its Galphimia gracilis. and only way to know for sure  is when fruits
develop
the flower petals fall off, per univ mich site. and
see the link
and my copy paste above

and if you work your way thru that site or 15 /20 minutes you will see
beautiful bw line drawings
that should give you a better idea of the inflorescence you have etc

And please send in pictures as a new thread, would love to see it.


i had this in my balcony for about three years, never got a fruit, no
pollinators.
usha di


On Mon, Sep 17, 2018 at 5:45 PM, J.M. Garg  wrote:

> Yes, Pankaj ji. That is what the referred publication says.
>
>
> On Mon 17 Sep, 2018, 1:37 PM Pankaj Kumar,  wrote:
>
>> Galphimia glauca and Galphimia brasilensis are not cultivated? Really?
>> Pankaj
>>
>>
>> On Monday, September 17, 2018, J.M. Garg  wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks Ushadi,
>>> I think you are right. I think we sorted out our posts to this id after
>>> going through the given publication.
>>>
>>> On Sat 15 Sep, 2018, 6:07 PM Ushadi Micromini, <
>>> microminipho...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
 Saroj ji
 it seems only way to tell them apart is to either diligently measure
 etc
 and
 most importantly
 observe the fruit formation per this write up by univ michigan Ms
 Anderson
  
 scroll
 to the lower third of the page 

 *"Galphimia gracilis* is easily told apart from the true *G. glauca*
 and *G. brasiliensis* by the flowers.
  In *G. gracilis* the petals fall as the fruit matures; in *G. glauca* the
 petals are persistent even in fruit.
 In *G. gracilis* many flowers of a dense inflorescence are open at one
 time, and the petals (claw and limb)
  are 8–14 mm long and 4–8 mm wide;
 in *G. brasiliensis* only 2 or 3 small flowers are open at one time on
 a sparse inflorescence,
  and the petals are only 4–5 mm long and ca. 3 mm wide.
 *Galphimia glauca*
 * and G. brasiliensis are not cultivated. " *


 she also had b&w line drawings that shows the difference of
 inflorescence
 http://webapps.lsa.umich.edu/herb/malpigh/GalClade/
 Galphimia/GalGrac.html
 http://webapps.lsa.umich.edu/herb/malpigh/GalClade/
 Galphimia/GalGlau.html

 and our own page is very informative
 https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/m---z/m/
 malpighiaceae/galphimia/galphimia-gracilis
 https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/indiantreepix/galphimia%
 7Csort:date/indiantreepix/IO7UlIRMmXA/KX1ndCxYBAAJ
 Gurcharanji has written several times


 this is how i had arrived at the diagnosing my own galphias in the
 balcony, a few years ago, now dead.
 https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/indiantreepix/galphimia%
 7Csort:date/indiantreepix/NG3d1PG1xSA/NlSVnaeJBAAJ

 and hope this helps in your own opinion making.
 usha di

 On Sat, Sep 15, 2018 at 5:32 PM, Pankaj Kumar 
 wrote:

> I think this should be Galphimia glauca.
> Thanks for sharing.
> Pankaj
>
>
>
> On Saturday, September 15, 2018, Saroj Kasaju 
> wrote:
>
>> Galphimia gracilis Bartl.
>>
>> Thank you Dr. Subramaniam.
>>
>> Saroj Kasaju
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Sep 15, 2018 at 4:07 PM Bala Subramaniam <
>> balasubramaniam1...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Galphimia gracilis
>>>
>>> On Sat, 15 Sep 2018, 15:43 Saroj Kasaju, 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Dear Members,

 Location: Hong Kong Park
 Date: 13 August 2018
 Elevation: 200 ft.
 Habit : Cultivated

 Thank you.

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Re: [efloraofindia:304861] Fwd: SYMBIOSIS 1160

2018-09-17 Thread Ushadi Micromini
thank you
usha di

On Mon, Sep 17, 2018 at 7:11 PM, J.M. Garg  wrote:

> Thanks, Bimal ji.
>
> -- Forwarded message --
> From: Bimal Sar kar 
> Date: 17 September 2018 at 18:37
> Subject: Re: SYMBIOSIS 1160
> To: "J.M. Garg" 
>
>
> Dear Garg ji,
>   The butterfly in the collage is not a coloured Sergeant
> but a Common Jester.
>Sorry for the mix up.
>  With regards,
> Bimal
>
> On Sat, 15 Sep 2018 at 16:55, J.M. Garg  wrote:
>
>> Thanks, Bimal ji
>>
>> -- Forwarded message -
>> From: Bimal Sar kar 
>> Date: Sat 15 Sep, 2018, 7:00 AM
>> Subject: SYMBIOSIS 1160
>> To:
>>
>>
>> Attaching a collage of Coloured Sergeant  visiting flowers of Murraya
>> paniculata ( KAMINI ).
>>
>
>
>
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Re: [efloraofindia:304860] Fwd: DICHROSTACHYS CINEREA

2018-09-17 Thread Ushadi Micromini
very nice, just love it

Bimalda
do you have the first picture in the collage in the iriginal high
resolution?

if possible, can we see it please.
thanks
usha di

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> Thanks, Bimal ji.
>
> -- Forwarded message --
> From: Bimal Sar kar 
> Date: 17 September 2018 at 18:51
> Subject: DICHROSTACHYS CINEREA
> To:
>
>
> Attaching a collage of Dichrostachyas cinerea ( PAINTED THORN BUSH ).
> There were two plants of this species a few years back. I see only one
> standing now.
>
>
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Re: [efloraofindia:304860] Centranthera cochinchinensis var. nepalensis

2018-09-17 Thread ashutoshsharma11sn
Garg ji Centranthera indica is different from Centranthera cochinchinensis var. 
nepalensis (Synonyms - C.nepalensis)
Centranthera indica has much longer flowers about 2-2.5cms long and plant 
height is also more than 10cms.

Whereas Centranthera cochinchinensis var. nepalensis have small flowers 
generally not longer than 1.5cms also the plants are as small as upto 5cms in 
length.
Here's a link showing differences
https://www.google.com/url?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.jstor.org%2Fstable%2F2481130%3FSearch%3Dyes%26resultItemClick%3Dtrue%26searchText%3DCentranthera%26searchText%3Dindica%26searchUri%3D%252Faction%252FdoBasicSearch%253FQuery%253DCentranthera%252Bindica%26refreqid%3Dsearch%253A1d99babeb2023ff8a50486d3cd6b2018%26seq%3D2%26loggedin%3Dtrue%23metadata_info_tab_contents&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFQjCNGcKYRhCoHbIDo11yp7dDhJ9B8Ghw

Also sir both names Centranthera indica as well as Centranthera cochinchinensis 
var. nepalensis are mentioned as accepted name in plant list as well as in 
Catalogue of Life.

Here's the link providing different Centranthera species mentioned in COL-
http://www.catalogueoflife.org/annual-checklist/2018/search/all/key/Centranthera/fossil/1/match/1

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Re: [efloraofindia:304858] Centranthera indica confirmation requested

2018-09-17 Thread Ushadi Micromini
Thank you Ashutosh for cooperation
i am on my out of the house
will look at the links soon this week

usha di

On Mon, Sep 17, 2018 at 12:33 PM, J.M. Garg  wrote:

> Thanks a lot, Ashutosh ji.
>
> On 17 September 2018 at 11:55, Ashutosh Sharma <
> ashutoshsharma1...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Thanks Ushadi for suggestions yes the plants are recently photographed
>> from same locations as of previous year and are same to earlier one.
>>
>> Thanks Garg ji here are the links -
>>
>> https://www.jstor.org/stable/2481130?Search=yes&resultItemCl
>> ick=true&searchText=Centranthera&searchText=indica&searchUri=%2Faction%
>> 2FdoBasicSearch%3FQuery%3DCentranthera%2Bindica&
>> refreqid=search%3A1d99babeb2023ff8a50486d3cd6b2018&seq=2&
>> loggedin=true#metadata_info_tab_contents
>>
>> https://books.google.co.in/books?id=akXKOaT69SwC&pg=PA93&lpg
>> =PA93&dq=centranthera+nepalensis&source=bl&ots=tpsN_PsAF7&
>> sig=UKR7HGKl6vWV7ls7G-07Hyt-HGY&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjDl4
>> ClpsHdAhUUVH0KHSEHC8A4ChDoATAAegQIARAB#v=onepage&q=
>> centranthera%20nepalensis&f=false
>>
>> https://books.google.co.in/books?id=q7s4DwAAQBAJ&pg=PA354&;
>> lpg=PA354&dq=centranthera+nepalensis&source=bl&ots=X4-7bkjcHk&sig=Wcck-
>> 8Basqc4sM5U1Cg_X4OeKdc&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjDl4ClpsHdAhUU
>> VH0KHSEHC8A4ChDoATACegQIBxAB#v=onepage&q=centranthera%
>> 20nepalensis&f=false
>>
>> Two more images attached showing corolla length about 15 mm and other
>> showing plant size as small as upto 6cms.
>>
>> Best regards
>> Ashutosh Sharma
>>
>> On Mon, Sep 17, 2018, 10:39 AM J.M. Garg  wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks, Ashutosh ji, for the wonderful analysis.
>>> May I know the books respectively from where these snapshots have being
>>> taken.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 17 September 2018 at 02:25, Ashutosh Sharma <
>>> ashutoshsharma1...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
 This is Centranthera cochinchinensis var.nepalensis rare white
 yellowish form (Synonyms - C.nepalensis) , it is not Centranthera
 cochinchinensis var. lutea because of its bracts longer than the calyces
 moreover in this case the corolla is also not longer than 15mm which will
 be upto 20mm in Centranthera cochinchinensis var. lutea .
 Thus this one is rarer white yellowish form of Centranthera
 cochinchinensis var. nepalensis as generally flower colour is
 pinkish(corolla) with darker purplish tube.
 Here are some images regarding differences between Centranthera species
 and a link
 http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=200020637

 Best regards
 Ashutosh Sharma

 On Mon, Sep 17, 2018, 2:13 AM Ashutosh Sharma <
 ashutoshsharma1...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Garg ji sorry for late response
>
> On Sat, Sep 8, 2018, 9:52 AM J.M. Garg  wrote:
>
>> Any news, Ashutosh ji ?
>>
>> On 21 August 2018 at 19:53, ashutoshsharma11sn <
>> ashutoshsharma1...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks Garg sir looks close.
>>> I will try to find it and check it again by next month .
>>>
>>> Regards
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Re: [efloraofindia:304857] 170-TSP-ID-17SEP2018-1 A medium size tree near Arasikere for ID

2018-09-17 Thread tsp kumar
Thanks Shrikant ji
regards
tspkumar

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> On 17 September 2018 at 19:01, Shrikant Ingalhalikar <
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>> Givotia moluccana
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[efloraofindia:304856] Re: SK316JAN12-2017:ID

2018-09-17 Thread Saroj Kasaju
Thank you Mr. Garg !

Saroj Kasaju


On Mon, Sep 17, 2018 at 1:58 PM J.M. Garg  wrote:

> To me also appear close to your images at Cotoneaster affinis
> 
>
> -- Forwarded message --
> From: Saroj Kasaju 
> Date: 12 January 2017 at 19:40
> Subject: SK316JAN12-2017:ID
> To: efloraofindia , "J.M. Garg" <
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>
> Dear Members,
>
> Location: Ranikot, Bhaktapur, Nepal
> Altitude: 6300 ft.
> Date: 10 May 2014
>
> Thank you.
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[efloraofindia:304855] Re: SK1446 16 Sep 2018

2018-09-17 Thread Saroj Kasaju
Thank you Pankaj!

Saroj Kasaju


On Mon, Sep 17, 2018 at 5:43 PM J.M. Garg  wrote:

> Thanks, Pankaj ji and Saroj ji
>
> On Mon 17 Sep, 2018, 5:38 AM Pankaj Kumar,  wrote:
>
>> Looks like Ophiopogon jaburan.
>> Ornamental. We have Ophiopogon japonicus is also there.
>> Thanks a lot for sharing.
>> Pankaj
>>
>>
>> On Sun, 16 Sep 2018 at 23:33, Saroj Kasaju  wrote:
>>
>>> Dear Members,
>>>
>>> Location: Lantau, Hong Kong
>>> Date: 14 August 2018
>>> Elevation: 3000 ft.
>>> Habit : Cultivated
>>>
>>> Ophiopogon jaburan (Siebold) Lodd. 'Variagata'
>>>
>>> Thank you.
>>>
>>> Saroj Kasaju
>>>
>>
>>
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Re: [efloraofindia:304849] MS Sept.2018/17 Schefflera sp. for ID

2018-09-17 Thread J.M. Garg
Thanks, Kanhaiya Lal ji.

On 17 September 2018 at 19:34, Kanhaiya Lal Chaudhary <
klchaudhar...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Please check Tupidanthes sp also...
> Regards
>
> On Mon, 17 Sep 2018, 09:39 J.M. Garg,  wrote:
>
>> Pl. check comparative images at https://sites.google.com/
>> site/efloraofindia/species/a---l/ar/araliaceae/schefflera
>>
>> -- Forwarded message -
>> From: M Sawmliana 
>> Date: Sun 16 Sep, 2018, 3:08 PM
>> Subject: [efloraofindia:304734] MS Sept.2018/17 Schefflera sp. for ID
>> To: efloraofindia 
>>
>>
>> Location : Ailawng, Mizoram
>> Altitude : 1,200 - 1,300 m.
>> Date : 13-09-2018
>> Habit : Epiphytic, scandent shrub ?
>> Habitat : Wild.
>> Note : Fruit not yet fully grown,
>>about 2-3 cm dia.
>>
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Fwd: [efloraofindia:304848] 171-TSP-ID-17SEP2018-2 A monocot near Sakaleshpur for ID

2018-09-17 Thread J.M. Garg
Thanks, Anil ji.

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Date: 17 September 2018 at 19:29
Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:304817] 171-TSP-ID-17SEP2018-2 A monocot near
Sakaleshpur for ID
To: "J.M. Garg" 


Sir
It is Oplismenus burmanii

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> Thanks, Kumar ji
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> Date: Mon 17 Sep, 2018, 2:17 PM
> Subject: [efloraofindia:304817] 171-TSP-ID-17SEP2018-2 A monocot near
> Sakaleshpur for ID
> To: efloraofindia 
>
>
> Dear friends,
>
>
>
> Kindly examine and identify this plant
>
>
>
>
>
> Habit:Herb
>
>
>
> Habitat:  Evergreen forest floor
>
>
>
> Sighting: Near Sakaleshpur,Karnataka
>
>
>
> Date:   04-11-2016
>
>
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> Thanks and regards
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Re: [efloraofindia:304847] 170-TSP-ID-17SEP2018-1 A medium size tree near Arasikere for ID

2018-09-17 Thread J.M. Garg
Thanks, Shrikant ji.

On 17 September 2018 at 19:01, Shrikant Ingalhalikar <
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> Givotia moluccana
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[efloraofindia:304845] Fwd: SYMBIOSIS 1160

2018-09-17 Thread J.M. Garg
Thanks, Bimal ji.

-- Forwarded message --
From: Bimal Sar kar 
Date: 17 September 2018 at 18:37
Subject: Re: SYMBIOSIS 1160
To: "J.M. Garg" 


Dear Garg ji,
  The butterfly in the collage is not a coloured Sergeant
but a Common Jester.
   Sorry for the mix up.
 With regards,
Bimal

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> To:
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> Attaching a collage of Coloured Sergeant  visiting flowers of Murraya
> paniculata ( KAMINI ).
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Fwd: [efloraofindia:304845] 170-TSP-ID-17SEP2018-1 A medium size tree near Arasikere for ID

2018-09-17 Thread Shrikant Ingalhalikar
Givotia moluccana

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Re: [efloraofindia:304843] 171-TSP-ID-17SEP2018-2 A monocot near Sakaleshpur for ID

2018-09-17 Thread tsp kumar
Thanks Gargji and Ashutosh ji
regards tspkumar


On Mon, Sep 17, 2018 at 5:44 PM J.M. Garg  wrote:

> Thanks, Ashutosh ji
>
> On Mon 17 Sep, 2018, 3:33 PM ashutoshsharma11sn, <
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>> Oplismenus compositus
>> Running Mountain Grass
>>
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[efloraofindia:304842] Re: Wild flower 03 for ID

2018-09-17 Thread Devi Nair
Thank you Mahadeshwar’ji. I do not have any more photos as of now.

On Monday, 17 September 2018, J.M. Garg  wrote:

> Thanks, Mahadeswara ji
>
> On Mon 17 Sep, 2018, 10:48 AM Mahadeswara,  wrote:
>
>> *Mollugo* species.  Any close up photos of  flowers and foliage ?
>>
>> On Sunday, September 16, 2018 at 8:12:45 PM UTC+5:30, Devi wrote:
>>>
>>> Dear Members,
>>>
>>> For ID.
>>>
>>> Date: 06/09/18
>>>
>>> Location : Jawalagiri (near Hosur)
>>> Altitude   : 997 ASL
>>> Habitat.   : wild
>>>
>>>
>>> The last picture is of the same plant when dried.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thank you.
>>> Devi.
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[efloraofindia:304841] Re: Hibiscus schizopetalus (Dyer) Hook.f.

2018-09-17 Thread Saroj Kasaju
Thank you Mr. Garg !

Saroj Kasaju

On Mon, 17 Sep 2018, 17:37 J.M. Garg,  wrote:

> Beautiful images, Saroj ji
>
> On Sun 16 Sep, 2018, 8:31 PM Saroj Kasaju,  wrote:
>
>> Dear Members,
>>
>> Location: Hong Kong Park
>> Date: 13 August 2018
>> Elevation: 200 ft.
>> Habit : Cultivated
>>
>> Thank you.
>>
>> Saroj Kasaju
>>
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[efloraofindia:304840] Re: SK1443 15 Sep 2018

2018-09-17 Thread J.M. Garg
Yes, Pankaj ji. That is what the referred publication says.


On Mon 17 Sep, 2018, 1:37 PM Pankaj Kumar,  wrote:

> Galphimia glauca and Galphimia brasilensis are not cultivated? Really?
> Pankaj
>
>
> On Monday, September 17, 2018, J.M. Garg  wrote:
>
>> Thanks Ushadi,
>> I think you are right. I think we sorted out our posts to this id after
>> going through the given publication.
>>
>> On Sat 15 Sep, 2018, 6:07 PM Ushadi Micromini, 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Saroj ji
>>> it seems only way to tell them apart is to either diligently measure  etc
>>> and
>>> most importantly
>>> observe the fruit formation per this write up by univ michigan Ms
>>> Anderson
>>>  
>>> scroll
>>> to the lower third of the page 
>>>
>>> *"Galphimia gracilis* is easily told apart from the true *G. glauca* and
>>>  *G. brasiliensis* by the flowers.
>>>  In *G. gracilis* the petals fall as the fruit matures; in *G. glauca* the
>>> petals are persistent even in fruit.
>>> In *G. gracilis* many flowers of a dense inflorescence are open at one
>>> time, and the petals (claw and limb)
>>>  are 8–14 mm long and 4–8 mm wide;
>>> in *G. brasiliensis* only 2 or 3 small flowers are open at one time on
>>> a sparse inflorescence,
>>>  and the petals are only 4–5 mm long and ca. 3 mm wide.
>>> *Galphimia glauca*
>>> * and G. brasiliensis are not cultivated. " *
>>>
>>>
>>> she also had b&w line drawings that shows the difference of inflorescence
>>> http://webapps.lsa.umich.edu/herb/malpigh/GalClade/Galphimia/GalGrac.html
>>> http://webapps.lsa.umich.edu/herb/malpigh/GalClade/Galphimia/GalGlau.html
>>>
>>> and our own page is very informative
>>>
>>> https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/m---z/m/malpighiaceae/galphimia/galphimia-gracilis
>>>
>>> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/indiantreepix/galphimia%7Csort:date/indiantreepix/IO7UlIRMmXA/KX1ndCxYBAAJ
>>> Gurcharanji has written several times
>>>
>>>
>>> this is how i had arrived at the diagnosing my own galphias in the
>>> balcony, a few years ago, now dead.
>>>
>>> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/indiantreepix/galphimia%7Csort:date/indiantreepix/NG3d1PG1xSA/NlSVnaeJBAAJ
>>>
>>> and hope this helps in your own opinion making.
>>> usha di
>>>
>>> On Sat, Sep 15, 2018 at 5:32 PM, Pankaj Kumar 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 I think this should be Galphimia glauca.
 Thanks for sharing.
 Pankaj



 On Saturday, September 15, 2018, Saroj Kasaju 
 wrote:

> Galphimia gracilis Bartl.
>
> Thank you Dr. Subramaniam.
>
> Saroj Kasaju
>
>
> On Sat, Sep 15, 2018 at 4:07 PM Bala Subramaniam <
> balasubramaniam1...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Galphimia gracilis
>>
>> On Sat, 15 Sep 2018, 15:43 Saroj Kasaju, 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Dear Members,
>>>
>>> Location: Hong Kong Park
>>> Date: 13 August 2018
>>> Elevation: 200 ft.
>>> Habit : Cultivated
>>>
>>> Thank you.
>>>
>>> Saroj Kasaju
>>>
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Re: [efloraofindia:304837] 168-TSP-1D-16SEP2018-2,Herb near Chikmagalur for ID

2018-09-17 Thread J.M. Garg
Thanks, Prashant ji

On Mon 17 Sep, 2018, 5:30 PM Dr. Prashantkumar Desai, 
wrote:

> chek in Murdania
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Re: [efloraofindia:304837] 171-TSP-ID-17SEP2018-2 A monocot near Sakaleshpur for ID

2018-09-17 Thread J.M. Garg
Thanks, Ashutosh ji

On Mon 17 Sep, 2018, 3:33 PM ashutoshsharma11sn, <
ashutoshsharma1...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Oplismenus compositus
> Running Mountain Grass
>
> Best regards
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Re: [efloraofindia:304835] 172-TSP-ID-17SEP2018-3 A herb near Kottigehara,for ID

2018-09-17 Thread J.M. Garg
Acanthaceae member.

On Mon 17 Sep, 2018, 2:21 PM tsp kumar,  wrote:

> Dear friends,
>
>
>
> Kindly examine and identify this plant
>
>
>
>
>
> Habit: Herb
>
>
>
> Habitat:  Evergreen forest opening
>
>
>
> Sighting: Near Chikmagalur,Karnataka
>
>
>
> Date:  23-02-2016
>
>
>
> Thanks and regards
>
> tspkumar
>
> Deputy Conservator of Forests (R)
>
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>
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>
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>
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Re: [efloraofindia:304834] Centranthera cochinchinensis var. nepalensis

2018-09-17 Thread J.M. Garg
I think this should be a syn. of Centranthera indica as per detailed
discussions at
https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/m---z/o/orobanchaceae/centranthera/centranthera-indica

On Mon 17 Sep, 2018, 2:03 PM Ashutosh Sharma, 
wrote:

> Respected members,
>
> Here are images of Centranthera cochinchinensis var nepalensis.
> Synonyms - Centranthera nepalensis
> Family - Orobanchaceae
>
> This one is the common rose pink colour form with darker purplish corolla
> tube (Roxburgh has mentioned the flower colour as "Tube a deep purplish red
> , and the lobes rose-coloured" ) entire plant is hairy flower having
> villous filaments , corolla is about 15 mm long and bracts longer than the
> calyces.
>
> Here's the link
>
> https://books.google.co.in/books?id=akXKOaT69SwC&pg=PA93&lpg=PA93&dq=centranthera+nepalensis&source=bl&ots=tpsN_Qtxz9&sig=hSe9v8d42udfnWzdFyDQpC84f4w&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiktpj3zcHdAhVTfCsKHSaYCyw4ChDoATABegQICRAB#v=onepage&q=centranthera%20nepalensis&f=false
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Re: [efloraofindia:304832] Galeola falconeri (Orchidaceae)

2018-09-17 Thread Pankaj Kumar
Cant confirm without flowers, but yes Galeola.
Thanks a lot for sharing.
Pankaj


On Mon, 17 Sep 2018 at 20:05, J.M. Garg  wrote:

> Thanks a lot, Ashutosh ji
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> Date: Mon 17 Sep, 2018, 1:20 PM
> Subject: [efloraofindia:304810] Galeola falconeri (Orchidaceae)
> To: indiantreepix 
>
>
> Respected members,
>
> Here are the images of matured plant of rare myco-heterotrophic Orchid
> Galeola falconeri
> Falconer's Galeola
>
> Seed pods are 9 -10cms long enclosing thousands of tiny white seeds.
> Photographed at Kullu District ,Himachal Pradesh
> Altitude - 2100meters
> August 2018
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Re: [efloraofindia:304831] 167-TSP-ID-16SEP2018-1 plant at Agumbe for ID

2018-09-17 Thread J.M. Garg
Thanks, Mahadeswara ji

On Mon 17 Sep, 2018, 10:51 AM Mahadeswara,  wrote:

> I agree with Usha Di
>
> On Sunday, September 16, 2018 at 10:52:18 PM UTC+5:30, Ushadi wrote:
>>
>> amorphophallus sp
>> possibly
>> a a commutatus
>>
>> https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/a---l/ar/araceae/amorphophallus/amorphophallus-commutatus
>>
>> usha di
>>
>> On Sun, Sep 16, 2018 at 8:01 PM, tsp kumar  wrote:
>>
>>> Dear friends,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Kindly examine and identify this plant
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Habit:  Shrub
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Habitat:Semi-evergreen forest
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Sighting:Agumbe,Karnataka,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Date:05-08-2016
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks and regards
>>>
>>> tspkumar
>>>
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>>>
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>>>
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[efloraofindia:304831] Re: SK1443 15 Sep 2018

2018-09-17 Thread Mahadeswara
What is the final ID.  I have this plant in my garden.

On Monday, September 17, 2018 at 4:12:26 PM UTC+5:30, Saroj Kumar Kasaju 
wrote:
>
> I have no idea Pankaj.
>
> Thank you.
>
> Saroj Kasaju 
>
> On Mon, 17 Sep 2018, 13:52 Pankaj Kumar,  > wrote:
>
>> Galphimia glauca and Galphimia brasilensis are not cultivated? Really?
>> Pankaj
>>
>>
>> On Monday, September 17, 2018, J.M. Garg > 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks Ushadi, 
>>> I think you are right. I think we sorted out our posts to this id after 
>>> going through the given publication. 
>>>
>>> On Sat 15 Sep, 2018, 6:07 PM Ushadi Micromini, >> > wrote:
>>>
 Saroj ji
 it seems only way to tell them apart is to either diligently measure  
 etc
 and
 most importantly
 observe the fruit formation per this write up by univ michigan Ms 
 Anderson 
  
 scroll 
 to the lower third of the page 

 *"Galphimia gracilis* is easily told apart from the true *G. glauca* 
 and *G. brasiliensis* by the flowers.
  In *G. gracilis* the petals fall as the fruit matures; in *G. glauca* the 
 petals are persistent even in fruit. 
 In *G. gracilis* many flowers of a dense inflorescence are open at one 
 time, and the petals (claw and limb)
  are 8–14 mm long and 4–8 mm wide; 
 in *G. brasiliensis* only 2 or 3 small flowers are open at one time on 
 a sparse inflorescence,
  and the petals are only 4–5 mm long and ca. 3 mm wide. 
 *Galphimia glauca*
 * and G. brasiliensis are not cultivated. " *


 she also had b&w line drawings that shows the difference of 
 inflorescence

 http://webapps.lsa.umich.edu/herb/malpigh/GalClade/Galphimia/GalGrac.html

 http://webapps.lsa.umich.edu/herb/malpigh/GalClade/Galphimia/GalGlau.html

 and our own page is very informative

 https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/m---z/m/malpighiaceae/galphimia/galphimia-gracilis

 https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/indiantreepix/galphimia%7Csort:date/indiantreepix/IO7UlIRMmXA/KX1ndCxYBAAJ
 Gurcharanji has written several times


 this is how i had arrived at the diagnosing my own galphias in the 
 balcony, a few years ago, now dead.

 https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/indiantreepix/galphimia%7Csort:date/indiantreepix/NG3d1PG1xSA/NlSVnaeJBAAJ

 and hope this helps in your own opinion making.
 usha di 

 On Sat, Sep 15, 2018 at 5:32 PM, Pankaj Kumar >>> > wrote:

> I think this should be Galphimia glauca. 
> Thanks for sharing.
> Pankaj
>
>
>
> On Saturday, September 15, 2018, Saroj Kasaju  > wrote:
>
>> Galphimia gracilis Bartl.
>>
>> Thank you Dr. Subramaniam.
>>
>> Saroj Kasaju
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Sep 15, 2018 at 4:07 PM Bala Subramaniam <
>> balasubra...@gmail.com > wrote:
>>
>>> Galphimia gracilis
>>>
>>> On Sat, 15 Sep 2018, 15:43 Saroj Kasaju, >> > wrote:
>>>
 Dear Members,

 Location: Hong Kong Park  
 Date: 13 August 2018
 Elevation: 200 ft.
 Habit : Cultivated

 Thank you.

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Re: [efloraofindia:304828] Re: Wild flower 03 for ID

2018-09-17 Thread J.M. Garg
Thanks, Mahadeswara ji

On Mon 17 Sep, 2018, 10:48 AM Mahadeswara,  wrote:

> *Mollugo* species.  Any close up photos of  flowers and foliage ?
>
> On Sunday, September 16, 2018 at 8:12:45 PM UTC+5:30, Devi wrote:
>>
>> Dear Members,
>>
>> For ID.
>>
>> Date: 06/09/18
>>
>> Location : Jawalagiri (near Hosur)
>> Altitude   : 997 ASL
>> Habitat.   : wild
>>
>>
>> The last picture is of the same plant when dried.
>>
>>
>>
>> Thank you.
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Re: [efloraofindia:304828] Re: 169-TSP-ID-16SEP2018-3,a medium sized tree near Chikmagalur for ID

2018-09-17 Thread J.M. Garg
Thanks, Mahadeswara ji

On Mon 17 Sep, 2018, 10:46 AM Mahadeswara,  wrote:

> Yes,  it is Brownea species.
>
> On Monday, September 17, 2018 at 9:49:25 AM UTC+5:30, JM Garg wrote:
>>
>> I also agree with Aarti ji and Ushadi.
>> Pl. check
>> https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/a---l/f/fabaceae/brownea
>>
>> On Sun 16 Sep, 2018, 11:05 PM Ushadi Micromini, 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> yes Aarti is correct
>>> reminds me of Brownea sp sp
>>>
>>> usha di
>>>
>>> On Sun, Sep 16, 2018 at 9:09 PM, Aarti S. Khale 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Looks like Brownea Species to me.
 Aarti


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> Dear friends,
>
>
>
> Kindly examine and identify this plant
>
>
>
>
>
> Habit: A medium sized tree.
>
>
>
> Habitat:  Cultivated
>
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> Sighting: Near Chikmagalur,Karnataka
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Fwd: [efloraofindia:304824] 168-TSP-1D-16SEP2018-2,Herb near Chikmagalur for ID

2018-09-17 Thread Dr. Prashantkumar Desai
familly Commelinaceae

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Fwd: [efloraofindia:304826] 168-TSP-1D-16SEP2018-2,Herb near Chikmagalur for ID

2018-09-17 Thread Dr. Prashantkumar Desai
chek in Murdania

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Re: [efloraofindia:304824] SK1444 16 Sep 2018

2018-09-17 Thread J.M. Garg
Thanks, Pankaj ji, Tapas ji and Saroj ji

On Mon 17 Sep, 2018, 3:54 AM Pankaj Kumar,  wrote:

> This should be Mallotus paniculatus.
> Thanks for sharing.
> Pankaj
>
>
> On Mon, 17 Sep 2018 at 01:58, Saroj Kasaju  wrote:
>
>> All same plant !
>>
>> Thank you!
>>
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>>
>> On Sun, 16 Sep 2018, 23:39 Tapas Chakrabarty,  wrote:
>>
>>> Yes. The new shoots are like that.
>>>
>>> On Sun, Sep 16, 2018, 23:15 Ushadi Micromini 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 last picture too?
 what is that?


 On Sun, Sep 16, 2018 at 11:11 PM, Tapas Chakrabarty >>> > wrote:

> Mallotus!!
>
> On Sun, Sep 16, 2018, 23:06 Ushadi Micromini <
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>
>> picture mix up ?
>> usha di
>>
>> On Sun, Sep 16, 2018 at 8:54 PM, Saroj Kasaju 
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>>> Location: Lantau, Hong Kong
>>> Date: 14 August 2018
>>> Elevation: 3000 ft.
>>> Habit : Cultivated
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[efloraofindia:304822] Re: SK1446 16 Sep 2018

2018-09-17 Thread J.M. Garg
Thanks, Pankaj ji and Saroj ji

On Mon 17 Sep, 2018, 5:38 AM Pankaj Kumar,  wrote:

> Looks like Ophiopogon jaburan.
> Ornamental. We have Ophiopogon japonicus is also there.
> Thanks a lot for sharing.
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>
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>> Location: Lantau, Hong Kong
>> Date: 14 August 2018
>> Elevation: 3000 ft.
>> Habit : Cultivated
>>
>> Ophiopogon jaburan (Siebold) Lodd. 'Variagata'
>>
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[efloraofindia:304822] Re: SK1445 16 Sep 2018

2018-09-17 Thread J.M. Garg
Thanks, Pankaj ji

On Mon 17 Sep, 2018, 3:56 AM Pankaj Kumar,  wrote:

> This should be Araucaria heterophylla.
> Thanks a lot for sharing.
> Pankaj
>
>
> On Sun, 16 Sep 2018 at 23:25, Saroj Kasaju  wrote:
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>> Dear Members,
>>
>> Location: Lantau, Hong Kong
>> Date: 14 August 2018
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>> Habit : Cultivated
>>
>> Thank you.
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[efloraofindia:304821] Re: Hibiscus schizopetalus (Dyer) Hook.f.

2018-09-17 Thread J.M. Garg
Beautiful images, Saroj ji

On Sun 16 Sep, 2018, 8:31 PM Saroj Kasaju,  wrote:

> Dear Members,
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> Location: Hong Kong Park
> Date: 13 August 2018
> Elevation: 200 ft.
> Habit : Cultivated
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[efloraofindia:304820] Re: SK1443 15 Sep 2018

2018-09-17 Thread Saroj Kasaju
I have no idea Pankaj.

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju

On Mon, 17 Sep 2018, 13:52 Pankaj Kumar,  wrote:

> Galphimia glauca and Galphimia brasilensis are not cultivated? Really?
> Pankaj
>
>
> On Monday, September 17, 2018, J.M. Garg  wrote:
>
>> Thanks Ushadi,
>> I think you are right. I think we sorted out our posts to this id after
>> going through the given publication.
>>
>> On Sat 15 Sep, 2018, 6:07 PM Ushadi Micromini, 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Saroj ji
>>> it seems only way to tell them apart is to either diligently measure  etc
>>> and
>>> most importantly
>>> observe the fruit formation per this write up by univ michigan Ms
>>> Anderson
>>>  
>>> scroll
>>> to the lower third of the page 
>>>
>>> *"Galphimia gracilis* is easily told apart from the true *G. glauca* and
>>>  *G. brasiliensis* by the flowers.
>>>  In *G. gracilis* the petals fall as the fruit matures; in *G. glauca* the
>>> petals are persistent even in fruit.
>>> In *G. gracilis* many flowers of a dense inflorescence are open at one
>>> time, and the petals (claw and limb)
>>>  are 8–14 mm long and 4–8 mm wide;
>>> in *G. brasiliensis* only 2 or 3 small flowers are open at one time on
>>> a sparse inflorescence,
>>>  and the petals are only 4–5 mm long and ca. 3 mm wide.
>>> *Galphimia glauca*
>>> * and G. brasiliensis are not cultivated. " *
>>>
>>>
>>> she also had b&w line drawings that shows the difference of inflorescence
>>> http://webapps.lsa.umich.edu/herb/malpigh/GalClade/Galphimia/GalGrac.html
>>> http://webapps.lsa.umich.edu/herb/malpigh/GalClade/Galphimia/GalGlau.html
>>>
>>> and our own page is very informative
>>>
>>> https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/m---z/m/malpighiaceae/galphimia/galphimia-gracilis
>>>
>>> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/indiantreepix/galphimia%7Csort:date/indiantreepix/IO7UlIRMmXA/KX1ndCxYBAAJ
>>> Gurcharanji has written several times
>>>
>>>
>>> this is how i had arrived at the diagnosing my own galphias in the
>>> balcony, a few years ago, now dead.
>>>
>>> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/indiantreepix/galphimia%7Csort:date/indiantreepix/NG3d1PG1xSA/NlSVnaeJBAAJ
>>>
>>> and hope this helps in your own opinion making.
>>> usha di
>>>
>>> On Sat, Sep 15, 2018 at 5:32 PM, Pankaj Kumar 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 I think this should be Galphimia glauca.
 Thanks for sharing.
 Pankaj



 On Saturday, September 15, 2018, Saroj Kasaju 
 wrote:

> Galphimia gracilis Bartl.
>
> Thank you Dr. Subramaniam.
>
> Saroj Kasaju
>
>
> On Sat, Sep 15, 2018 at 4:07 PM Bala Subramaniam <
> balasubramaniam1...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Galphimia gracilis
>>
>> On Sat, 15 Sep 2018, 15:43 Saroj Kasaju, 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Dear Members,
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>>> Location: Hong Kong Park
>>> Date: 13 August 2018
>>> Elevation: 200 ft.
>>> Habit : Cultivated
>>>
>>> Thank you.
>>>
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[efloraofindia:304820] 171-TSP-ID-17SEP2018-2 A monocot near Sakaleshpur for ID

2018-09-17 Thread ashutoshsharma11sn
Oplismenus compositus
Running Mountain Grass 

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Re: [efloraofindia:304818] I'd plz

2018-09-17 Thread Promila Chaturvedi
It is adiantum

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>> At Girnar taleti
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[efloraofindia:304813] Re: Adding efi site to your home screen on mobile.

2018-09-17 Thread Maurizio Muci
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[efloraofindia:304811] Re: SK1443 15 Sep 2018

2018-09-17 Thread Pankaj Kumar
Galphimia glauca and Galphimia brasilensis are not cultivated? Really?
Pankaj


On Monday, September 17, 2018, J.M. Garg  wrote:

> Thanks Ushadi,
> I think you are right. I think we sorted out our posts to this id after
> going through the given publication.
>
> On Sat 15 Sep, 2018, 6:07 PM Ushadi Micromini, 
> wrote:
>
>> Saroj ji
>> it seems only way to tell them apart is to either diligently measure  etc
>> and
>> most importantly
>> observe the fruit formation per this write up by univ michigan Ms
>> Anderson
>>  
>> scroll
>> to the lower third of the page 
>>
>> *"Galphimia gracilis* is easily told apart from the true *G. glauca* and *G.
>> brasiliensis* by the flowers.
>>  In *G. gracilis* the petals fall as the fruit matures; in *G. glauca* the
>> petals are persistent even in fruit.
>> In *G. gracilis* many flowers of a dense inflorescence are open at one
>> time, and the petals (claw and limb)
>>  are 8–14 mm long and 4–8 mm wide;
>> in *G. brasiliensis* only 2 or 3 small flowers are open at one time on a
>> sparse inflorescence,
>>  and the petals are only 4–5 mm long and ca. 3 mm wide.
>> *Galphimia glauca*
>> * and G. brasiliensis are not cultivated. " *
>>
>>
>> she also had b&w line drawings that shows the difference of inflorescence
>> http://webapps.lsa.umich.edu/herb/malpigh/GalClade/Galphimia/GalGrac.html
>> http://webapps.lsa.umich.edu/herb/malpigh/GalClade/Galphimia/GalGlau.html
>>
>> and our own page is very informative
>> https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/m---z/m/
>> malpighiaceae/galphimia/galphimia-gracilis
>> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/indiantreepix/galphimia%
>> 7Csort:date/indiantreepix/IO7UlIRMmXA/KX1ndCxYBAAJ
>> Gurcharanji has written several times
>>
>>
>> this is how i had arrived at the diagnosing my own galphias in the
>> balcony, a few years ago, now dead.
>> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/indiantreepix/galphimia%
>> 7Csort:date/indiantreepix/NG3d1PG1xSA/NlSVnaeJBAAJ
>>
>> and hope this helps in your own opinion making.
>> usha di
>>
>> On Sat, Sep 15, 2018 at 5:32 PM, Pankaj Kumar 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I think this should be Galphimia glauca.
>>> Thanks for sharing.
>>> Pankaj
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Saturday, September 15, 2018, Saroj Kasaju 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Galphimia gracilis Bartl.

 Thank you Dr. Subramaniam.

 Saroj Kasaju


 On Sat, Sep 15, 2018 at 4:07 PM Bala Subramaniam <
 balasubramaniam1...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Galphimia gracilis
>
> On Sat, 15 Sep 2018, 15:43 Saroj Kasaju, 
> wrote:
>
>> Dear Members,
>>
>> Location: Hong Kong Park
>> Date: 13 August 2018
>> Elevation: 200 ft.
>> Habit : Cultivated
>>
>> Thank you.
>>
>> Saroj Kasaju
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Re: Fwd: [efloraofindia:304809] TSPNOV2015-32: Images of Senegalia catechu (Fabaceae)

2018-09-17 Thread J.M. Garg
Thanks a lot, Anup ji, for further clarifications.

On 17 September 2018 at 11:42, Anup Deshpande  wrote:

> Sir
> The characters 'number of pinnae and number of leaflet' are overlapping.
> Therefore, it is sometimes difficult to identify based on herbarium
> specimens.
> Place of collection will give basic idea whether the species is S. catechu
> or S. chundra. Senegalia polyacantha is distributed almost every state of
> India except northeast and temperate regions. To confirm the identity, it
> is important to observe bark, young stem, calyx. Pods of S. catechu and S.
> chundra are similar. They are reddish brown to brown at maturity while S.
> polyacantha showed light brown pods. Please check the photographs which are
> attached in these mails. Also, please observe prickles are brown, smaller,
> about 2-4 mm in S. catechu and S. chundra while prickles are light brown,
> husk coloured and longer, about 3-8 mm in S. polyacantha.
>
> Thank you.
>
> On Sep 17, 2018 11:26, "J.M. Garg"  wrote:
>
>> Thanks, Anup ji.
>> That means keys in the attachment at efi thread
>>  
>> (Kshirsagar
>> - 2012 - Observations and taxonomic assessment of Acacia catechu willd.
>> complex (Mimosaceae) in India.pdf) w.r.t. number of pinnae more than 20
>> in *Senegalia* *polyacantha* (Willd.) Seigler & Ebinger & upto 20 in S.
>> catechu & S. chundra is not correct.
>> Pl. confirm.
>>
>> On 17 September 2018 at 11:16, Anup Deshpande 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Naturally, S. catechu is found in northern part of India, north of
>>> Maharashtra, while S. chundra is found in South of Maharashtra. However, S.
>>> catechu is being cultivated for extraction of tannins
>>>
>>> On Sep 15, 2018 12:03, "J.M. Garg"  wrote:
>>>
 I think this should be *Senegalia* *polyacantha* (Willd.) Seigler &
 Ebinger as it has less than 20 pinnae as per keys in the attachment at efi
 thread
 

 As per details in efi thread
  &
 keys in the attachment:
 I am very much sure that *Senegalia catechu*, *Senegalia polyacantha *as
 well as *Senegalia chundra* are distinct species.
 The calyx of *S. catechu *and *S. polyacantha *are hairy (sometimes
 sparsely hairy in *S. polyacantha*); while calyx is completely
 glabrous in *S. chundra*
 Bark of *S. catechu *and *S. chundra *is very similar. Grey white when
 immature while dark brown to black, fissured when mature. *S.
 polyacantha *bark is white, papery, peeling out and armed with
 several, individual, prickles even on main trunk (probably the name is
 because of this feature: poly-a-cantha). Leaves of S. polyacantha are
 larger than other two species. Prickles in S. polyacantha is yellowish
 brown, recurved or straight, and about 0.5-1.0 cm long, while prickles
 in other two species are brown to black, mostly recurved and about 0.3 cm
 long.
 Please find attached pdf of paper by Kshirsagar 2012. He differentiated
 all the three species based on morphology.
 1 attachment.

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 From: tsp kumar 
 Date: 8 November 2015 at 23:10
 Subject: [efloraofindia:235682] TSPNOV2015-32: Images of Senegalia
 catechu (Fabaceae)
 To: indiantreepix@googlegroups.com


 Dear friends,

 It is my pleasure to share few images of* Senegalia catechu*also
 called* Acacia chundra *(Fabaceae)


 Habit: Medium sized tree

 Habitat: Wild  in scrub forest.
 .
 Sighting:Konanakaval,Tumkur,Karnataka about 800 msl.

 Date:18-05-2015,27-05-2014,30-07-2014
 and 07-09-2014

 Thanks and regards
 tspkumar
 Deputy Conservator of Forests
 Working Plan
 Chikmagalur
 Ph:988057158


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[efloraofindia:304808] Fwd: Fern for id- 170918SR1

2018-09-17 Thread J.M. Garg
Thanks a lot, Chris ji.

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Date: 17 September 2018 at 12:17
Subject: Re: Fern for id- 170918SR1
To: "J.M. Garg" 


Not sure what "unique subject" refers to?
This is the well known and widespread species Adiantum philippense L (syn.:
A. lunulatum Burm.f.), widespread throughout most of India.  The specimens
are either sterile or a bit too poor to be confident as to which subspecies
they are, though probably subsp. philippense.  One would need a
chromosome-count though to find out for sure.
Chris Fraser-Jenkins.


On Monday, 17 September 2018, 11:10:46 GMT+5:45, J.M. Garg <
jmga...@gmail.com> wrote:


Giving unique subject now.

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Date: 17 September 2018 at 10:32
Subject: [efloraofindia:304789] I'd plz
To: efloraofindia 


At Girnar taleti
Junagadh
Gujarat

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Re: [efloraofindia:304807] Centranthera indica confirmation requested

2018-09-17 Thread J.M. Garg
Thanks a lot, Ashutosh ji.

On 17 September 2018 at 11:55, Ashutosh Sharma  wrote:

> Thanks Ushadi for suggestions yes the plants are recently photographed
> from same locations as of previous year and are same to earlier one.
>
> Thanks Garg ji here are the links -
>
> https://www.jstor.org/stable/2481130?Search=yes&resultItemClick=true&;
> searchText=Centranthera&searchText=indica&searchUri=%
> 2Faction%2FdoBasicSearch%3FQuery%3DCentranthera%2Bindica&refreqid=search%
> 3A1d99babeb2023ff8a50486d3cd6b2018&seq=2&loggedin=true#
> metadata_info_tab_contents
>
> https://books.google.co.in/books?id=akXKOaT69SwC&pg=PA93&;
> lpg=PA93&dq=centranthera+nepalensis&source=bl&ots=tpsN_
> PsAF7&sig=UKR7HGKl6vWV7ls7G-07Hyt-HGY&hl=en&sa=X&ved=
> 2ahUKEwjDl4ClpsHdAhUUVH0KHSEHC8A4ChDoATAAegQIARAB#v=onepage&
> q=centranthera%20nepalensis&f=false
>
> https://books.google.co.in/books?id=q7s4DwAAQBAJ&pg=PA354&lpg=PA354&dq=
> centranthera+nepalensis&source=bl&ots=X4-7bkjcHk&sig=
> Wcck-8Basqc4sM5U1Cg_X4OeKdc&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjDl4ClpsHdAhUUVH0KHSEHC
> 8A4ChDoATACegQIBxAB#v=onepage&q=centranthera%20nepalensis&f=false
>
> Two more images attached showing corolla length about 15 mm and other
> showing plant size as small as upto 6cms.
>
> Best regards
> Ashutosh Sharma
>
> On Mon, Sep 17, 2018, 10:39 AM J.M. Garg  wrote:
>
>> Thanks, Ashutosh ji, for the wonderful analysis.
>> May I know the books respectively from where these snapshots have being
>> taken.
>>
>>
>> On 17 September 2018 at 02:25, Ashutosh Sharma <
>> ashutoshsharma1...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> This is Centranthera cochinchinensis var.nepalensis rare white yellowish
>>> form (Synonyms - C.nepalensis) , it is not Centranthera cochinchinensis
>>> var. lutea because of its bracts longer than the calyces moreover in this
>>> case the corolla is also not longer than 15mm which will be upto 20mm in
>>> Centranthera cochinchinensis var. lutea .
>>> Thus this one is rarer white yellowish form of Centranthera
>>> cochinchinensis var. nepalensis as generally flower colour is
>>> pinkish(corolla) with darker purplish tube.
>>> Here are some images regarding differences between Centranthera species
>>> and a link
>>> http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=200020637
>>>
>>> Best regards
>>> Ashutosh Sharma
>>>
>>> On Mon, Sep 17, 2018, 2:13 AM Ashutosh Sharma <
>>> ashutoshsharma1...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
 Garg ji sorry for late response

 On Sat, Sep 8, 2018, 9:52 AM J.M. Garg  wrote:

> Any news, Ashutosh ji ?
>
> On 21 August 2018 at 19:53, ashutoshsharma11sn <
> ashutoshsharma1...@gmail.com> wrote:
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>> Thanks Garg sir looks close.
>> I will try to find it and check it again by next month .
>>
>> Regards
>> Ashutosh Sharma
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Fwd: Fwd: [efloraofindia:304806] MS Sept. 2018/16 Impatiens sp. for ID

2018-09-17 Thread J.M. Garg
Thanks a lot, Rajib ji.

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Date: 17 September 2018 at 11:34
Subject: Re: Fwd: [efloraofindia:304715] MS Sept. 2018/16 Impatiens sp. for
ID
To: "J.M. Garg" 


Impatiens pulchra

Rajib Gogoi


On Monday, 17 September, 2018, 9:36:59 AM IST, J.M. Garg 
wrote:


Pl. check comparative images at https://sites.google.com/
site/efloraofindia/species/a---l/b/balsaminaceae/impatiens

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Subject: [efloraofindia:304715] MS Sept. 2018/16 Impatiens sp. for ID
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Location : Ailawng, Mizoram
Date : 13-09-2018
Habit : Herb
Habitat : Wild


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