xfermailbox in unified murder config

2006-12-11 Thread b800000
Hi, is there any success in transferring mailbox to a different server  
in unified murder config ?


I got error : Could not move mailbox: user.abc, LOCALCREATE failed
user.abc is in server1, I tried to xfer it to server2.
I'm wondering the LOCALCREATE user.abc in server2 failed because of  
mailbox already exists



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Re: DB4 downgrade

2006-12-11 Thread Cheng-Jih Chen


Simon Matter wrote:

 Simon Matter wrote:
 Because of the sudden end-of-life of Fedora Core 4, I'm moving my mail
 server from FC4 to a CentOS 4.4 box.

 FC4 uses DB4 4.3.27.

 CentOS 4.4 uses DB4 4.2.52.

 What's the best way for me to downgrade the Cyrus DBs for this
 migration?
 Convert all BerkeleyDBs on the FC4 box to skiplist and then migrate to
 the
 new server/installation. Skiplist doesn't change from version to 
version

 so you don't have that problem anymore.
 Sounds good.  It's sufficient just to use the file command to see
 which of the db files are already skiplist and which are Berkeley DB?

 Yes, that should be okay. For me it looks like this:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] imap]# file /var/lib/imap/*.db
 /var/lib/imap/annotations.db:  Cyrus skiplist DB
 /var/lib/imap/deliver.db:  Cyrus skiplist DB
 /var/lib/imap/mailboxes.db:Cyrus skiplist DB
 /var/lib/imap/tls_sessions.db: Cyrus skiplist DB

 One more tip: You may want to remove all data from the db dirs because
 there may still be some files from the BerkeleyDB and they can lead to
 error messages, which are in fact not real cyrus errors. On such a
 migratin I usually do this after rsyncing:
 rm -rvf /var/lib/imap/db/* /var/lib/imap/db.*

I finally got a window of scheduled downtime to test this, and I'm 
having problems.  Here's what I did:


# /etc/init.d/cyrus-imapd stop
# db_checkpoint -v -1 -h /var/lib/imap/db
# db_recover -v -h /var/lib/imap/db
# rm db/*
# /usr/lib/cyrus-imapd/cvt_cyrusdb /var/lib/imap/deliver.db berkeley 
/var/lib/imap/deliver.db.skip skiplist
# /usr/lib/cyrus-imapd/cvt_cyrusdb /var/lib/imap/tls_sessions.db 
berkeley /var/lib/imap/tls_sessions.db.skip skiplist

# mv deliver.db.skip deliver.db ; mv tls_sessions.db.skip tls_sessions.db
# chown cyrus:mail tls_sessions.db deliver.db
# /etc/init.d/cyrus-imapd start

At this point, the log explodes with messages along the lines of:

Dec 11 06:11:53 ajax imaps[1394]: DBERROR: critical database situation
Dec 11 06:11:53 ajax master[32203]: service imaps pid 1394 in READY 
state: terminated abnormally
Dec 11 06:11:53 ajax master[32203]: service lmtpunix pid 1397 in READY 
state: terminated abnormally

Dec 11 06:11:53 ajax imap[1395]: DBERROR A
 : db4
Dec 11 06:11:53 ajax imap[1395]: DBERROR: critical database situation
Dec 11 06:11:53 ajax master[32203]: service imap pid 1395 in READY 
state: terminated abnormally

Dec 11 06:11:53 ajax imap[1399]: DBERROR A
 : db4
Dec 11 06:11:53 ajax imap[1399]: DBERROR: critical database situation
Dec 11 06:11:53 ajax imaps[1400]: DBERROR A
  : db4
Dec 11 06:11:53 ajax imaps[1400]: DBERROR: critical database situation

Any ideas on why this is going on?

I did notice that /var/lib/imap/rpm/db.cfg.cache has entries along the 
lines of:


CONFIG_DB_DUPLICATE=berkeley
CONFIG_DB_MBOX=skiplist
CONFIG_DB_SEEN=skiplist
CONFIG_DB_SUBS=flat
CONFIG_DB_TLS=berkeley
CONFIG_DB_ANNOTATION=skiplist
CONFIG_DB_SIEVE=2.2.3

Is there someplace I need to tell imapd that deliver and tls_sessions 
are now skiplist?  I don't see anything in /etc/imapd.conf and 
/etc/cyrus.conf.


Thanks.


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Re: DB4 downgrade

2006-12-11 Thread Simon Matter

 Simon Matter wrote:
  
   Simon Matter wrote:
   Because of the sudden end-of-life of Fedora Core 4, I'm moving my
 mail
   server from FC4 to a CentOS 4.4 box.
  
   FC4 uses DB4 4.3.27.
  
   CentOS 4.4 uses DB4 4.2.52.
  
   What's the best way for me to downgrade the Cyrus DBs for this
   migration?
   Convert all BerkeleyDBs on the FC4 box to skiplist and then migrate
 to
   the
   new server/installation. Skiplist doesn't change from version to
 version
   so you don't have that problem anymore.
   Sounds good.  It's sufficient just to use the file command to see
   which of the db files are already skiplist and which are Berkeley DB?
  
   Yes, that should be okay. For me it looks like this:
   [EMAIL PROTECTED] imap]# file /var/lib/imap/*.db
   /var/lib/imap/annotations.db:  Cyrus skiplist DB
   /var/lib/imap/deliver.db:  Cyrus skiplist DB
   /var/lib/imap/mailboxes.db:Cyrus skiplist DB
   /var/lib/imap/tls_sessions.db: Cyrus skiplist DB
  
   One more tip: You may want to remove all data from the db dirs because
   there may still be some files from the BerkeleyDB and they can lead to
   error messages, which are in fact not real cyrus errors. On such a
   migratin I usually do this after rsyncing:
   rm -rvf /var/lib/imap/db/* /var/lib/imap/db.*

 I finally got a window of scheduled downtime to test this, and I'm
 having problems.  Here's what I did:

 # /etc/init.d/cyrus-imapd stop
 # db_checkpoint -v -1 -h /var/lib/imap/db
 # db_recover -v -h /var/lib/imap/db
 # rm db/*
 # /usr/lib/cyrus-imapd/cvt_cyrusdb /var/lib/imap/deliver.db berkeley
 /var/lib/imap/deliver.db.skip skiplist
 # /usr/lib/cyrus-imapd/cvt_cyrusdb /var/lib/imap/tls_sessions.db
 berkeley /var/lib/imap/tls_sessions.db.skip skiplist
 # mv deliver.db.skip deliver.db ; mv tls_sessions.db.skip tls_sessions.db
 # chown cyrus:mail tls_sessions.db deliver.db
 # /etc/init.d/cyrus-imapd start

 At this point, the log explodes with messages along the lines of:

 Dec 11 06:11:53 ajax imaps[1394]: DBERROR: critical database situation
 Dec 11 06:11:53 ajax master[32203]: service imaps pid 1394 in READY
 state: terminated abnormally
 Dec 11 06:11:53 ajax master[32203]: service lmtpunix pid 1397 in READY
 state: terminated abnormally
 Dec 11 06:11:53 ajax imap[1395]: DBERROR A
   : db4
 Dec 11 06:11:53 ajax imap[1395]: DBERROR: critical database situation
 Dec 11 06:11:53 ajax master[32203]: service imap pid 1395 in READY
 state: terminated abnormally
 Dec 11 06:11:53 ajax imap[1399]: DBERROR A
   : db4
 Dec 11 06:11:53 ajax imap[1399]: DBERROR: critical database situation
 Dec 11 06:11:53 ajax imaps[1400]: DBERROR A
: db4
 Dec 11 06:11:53 ajax imaps[1400]: DBERROR: critical database situation

 Any ideas on why this is going on?

 I did notice that /var/lib/imap/rpm/db.cfg.cache has entries along the
 lines of:

 CONFIG_DB_DUPLICATE=berkeley
 CONFIG_DB_MBOX=skiplist
 CONFIG_DB_SEEN=skiplist
 CONFIG_DB_SUBS=flat
 CONFIG_DB_TLS=berkeley
 CONFIG_DB_ANNOTATION=skiplist
 CONFIG_DB_SIEVE=2.2.3

 Is there someplace I need to tell imapd that deliver and tls_sessions
 are now skiplist?  I don't see anything in /etc/imapd.conf and
 /etc/cyrus.conf.

Something is really broken here...
First shutdown using 'service cyrus-imapd stop', then put this in
/etc/imapd.conf:
duplicate_db: skiplist
tlscache_db: skiplist

Now try to start it up using 'service cyrus-imapd start'.
Unfortunately I think the cyrus-imapd package shipped with FC4 has some
bugs in the init scripts. I recommend you use my rpms, which are newer and
have less bugs. RedHat ships old versions of my rpms which don't include
the latest bug fixes. Find the source rpm here:
http://www.invoca.ch/pub/packages/cyrus-imapd/

Simon

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Re: some notes on upgrading from 2.1.15 to 2.2.12

2006-12-11 Thread Rudy Gevaert

Simon Matter wrote:

This may not be too important for anyone any more, I had some weirdness
with quotas wehn upgrading from 2.1.15 to 2.2.12.

At first I thought that all my quotas were somehow lost during the
upgrade.  Originally I thought this might have been because I
inadvertently left the Cyrus master daemon turned on when I first
rebooted the system back to multi-user mode.  It seemed as though the
quotas.db file, was completely empty after the aborted run of the new
version prior to DB conversion.  Hmmm  hang on, maybe that's also
because the old version had been configured to use quotalegacy by
default, which are the individual files in /var/quota/?/user.*; but the
new version was configured to use a skiplist DB by default, and the
actual setting was never present in the config file.

Not thinking about the quotalegacy issue (because I was too tired) I
simply re-assigned the quotas manually using the cyradm interface, shut
down master, then used quota -f to recover the usage numbers.  However
during recovery I noted some very strange things happening with the
quota -f runs.  The first time I ran quota -f without any mailboxes
then it seemed to whack the usage numbers by a factor of two (I can't
remember which way) on the mailboxes where I had already done a test run
of quota -f user.USER.


I saw things like that more than once and I never figured out what exactly
has triggered it and which versions of cyrus were affected. However, I
found a general rule which seems important at least it was so when I last
had a problem with quotas with 2.3.7:
Always make sure that your metadata is clean before using quota -f. If in
doubt, run reconstruct first. This seems to also be the case after some
upgrades. So for me I'm now always doing a reconstruct before a quota -f.
This can takes dozens of hours on large systems but better than having
broken quotas for such a long period.



Simon et all,

Our site had a huge failure (we lost the config directory /var/imap) 
this weekend.  We are now back running with a recovered mailboxes.db en 
*.sub files for our users (we didn't use reconstruct as that would take 
to long, 800Gigs of mail).


The only thing still lacking is correct quotas.  I set the quota for 
each mailbox to 'none' (to get everything working).  Now I want to add a 
correct quota number.  However I can set it with 'sq user.login x'.  But 
 requesting the quota gives me:
tarzan lq user.rgevaert 


 STORAGE 0/200 (0%)

I am sure to have several megabytes.  I looks like I have to run the 
quota program.


Before doing it on the full system I would like to run it for my own 
mailbox.  But:


 Running quota with both the  -f  option  and  mailbox-prefix
 arguments is not recommended.

I'm running:

name   : Cyrus IMAPD
version: v2.1.18 2005/02/14 06:45:19

Do you have any ideas what the consequences would be if I ran quota -f 
user.login on the running system?


Thanks in advance,
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BUG? File descriptor use in cmd_append (for MULTIAPPEND) results in many open files

2006-12-11 Thread Nik Conwell


I'm using the UW mailutil to transfer mailboxes from UW to Cyrus  
(2.3.7).  It uses APPEND, specifically multiappend (single APPEND  
with multiple messages being appended).  Cyrus-imapd handles this  
multiappend by creating stage files for each appended message and  
leaving the file descriptor open.  The problem is that after 240  
messages, we run out of file descriptors and so an open() of the next  
stage file fails with EMFILE.  I updated /etc/cyrus.conf to make the  
max fds be 1024 (AFAICT kernel MAX) which helped somewhat but not for  
larger mailboxes with  1008 messages.


Shouldn't the multiappend/append be closing the FD for each stage  
file and then reopening it later as it needs it?


Do people just tweak their kernels to have some insane number of FDs  
available in order to compensate for this?


Or, do people not use mailutil and instead use something that issues  
multiple append commands rather than a single append with multiple e- 
mails?


-nik


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Re: some notes on upgrading from 2.1.15 to 2.2.12

2006-12-11 Thread Simon Matter
 Simon Matter wrote:
 This may not be too important for anyone any more, I had some weirdness
 with quotas wehn upgrading from 2.1.15 to 2.2.12.

 At first I thought that all my quotas were somehow lost during the
 upgrade.  Originally I thought this might have been because I
 inadvertently left the Cyrus master daemon turned on when I first
 rebooted the system back to multi-user mode.  It seemed as though the
 quotas.db file, was completely empty after the aborted run of the new
 version prior to DB conversion.  Hmmm  hang on, maybe that's also
 because the old version had been configured to use quotalegacy by
 default, which are the individual files in /var/quota/?/user.*; but the
 new version was configured to use a skiplist DB by default, and the
 actual setting was never present in the config file.

 Not thinking about the quotalegacy issue (because I was too tired) I
 simply re-assigned the quotas manually using the cyradm interface, shut
 down master, then used quota -f to recover the usage numbers.
 However
 during recovery I noted some very strange things happening with the
 quota -f runs.  The first time I ran quota -f without any mailboxes
 then it seemed to whack the usage numbers by a factor of two (I can't
 remember which way) on the mailboxes where I had already done a test
 run
 of quota -f user.USER.

 I saw things like that more than once and I never figured out what
 exactly
 has triggered it and which versions of cyrus were affected. However, I
 found a general rule which seems important at least it was so when I
 last
 had a problem with quotas with 2.3.7:
 Always make sure that your metadata is clean before using quota -f. If
 in
 doubt, run reconstruct first. This seems to also be the case after some
 upgrades. So for me I'm now always doing a reconstruct before a quota
 -f.
 This can takes dozens of hours on large systems but better than having
 broken quotas for such a long period.


 Simon et all,

 Our site had a huge failure (we lost the config directory /var/imap)
 this weekend.  We are now back running with a recovered mailboxes.db en
 *.sub files for our users (we didn't use reconstruct as that would take
 to long, 800Gigs of mail).

 The only thing still lacking is correct quotas.  I set the quota for
 each mailbox to 'none' (to get everything working).  Now I want to add a
 correct quota number.  However I can set it with 'sq user.login x'.  But
   requesting the quota gives me:
 tarzan lq user.rgevaert

   STORAGE 0/200 (0%)

 I am sure to have several megabytes.  I looks like I have to run the
 quota program.

In my case running quota didn't help until I reconstructed the mailbox.
And I never tried to run quota -f with a mailbox-prefix. And then, I'm
running 2.3.7 while you run a much older version which could also make a
difference.

I recommend to run reconstruct first and then quota -f.

Simon


 Before doing it on the full system I would like to run it for my own
 mailbox.  But:

   Running quota with both the  -f  option  and  mailbox-prefix
   arguments is not recommended.

 I'm running:

 name   : Cyrus IMAPD
 version: v2.1.18 2005/02/14 06:45:19

 Do you have any ideas what the consequences would be if I ran quota -f
 user.login on the running system?

 Thanks in advance,
 --
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 Rudy Gevaert  [EMAIL PROTECTED]  tel:+32 9 264 4734
 Directie ICT, afd. Infrastructuur ICT Department, Infrastructure office
 Groep SystemenSystems group
 Universiteit Gent Ghent University
 Krijgslaan 281, gebouw S9, 9000 Gent, Belgie   www.UGent.be
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Re: BUG? File descriptor use in cmd_append (for MULTIAPPEND) results in many open files

2006-12-11 Thread Andrew Morgan

On Mon, 11 Dec 2006, Nik Conwell wrote:

I'm using the UW mailutil to transfer mailboxes from UW to Cyrus (2.3.7).  It 
uses APPEND, specifically multiappend (single APPEND with multiple messages 
being appended).  Cyrus-imapd handles this multiappend by creating stage 
files for each appended message and leaving the file descriptor open.  The 
problem is that after 240 messages, we run out of file descriptors and so an 
open() of the next stage file fails with EMFILE.  I updated /etc/cyrus.conf 
to make the max fds be 1024 (AFAICT kernel MAX) which helped somewhat but not 
for larger mailboxes with  1008 messages.


Shouldn't the multiappend/append be closing the FD for each stage file and 
then reopening it later as it needs it?


Do people just tweak their kernels to have some insane number of FDs 
available in order to compensate for this?


Or, do people not use mailutil and instead use something that issues multiple 
append commands rather than a single append with multiple e-mails?


We run with a much, much larger number of file descriptors here.  I've 
increased the system limit to around 200k (/proc/sys/fs/file-max on 
linux).  This is for the day-to-day running of Cyrus, so I don't know if 
you would need a higher limit for running mailutil (but I doubt it).


In practice, each of my backends has only used a maximum of around 12k 
file descriptors, but I'd hate to run out!  :)


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Re: BUG? File descriptor use in cmd_append (for MULTIAPPEND) results in many open files

2006-12-11 Thread Benn Oshrin

--On 11 December 2006 10:07:46 AM -0500 Nik Conwell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

| Or, do people not use mailutil and instead use something that issues
| multiple append commands rather than a single append with multiple e-
| mails?

For our transition, we used a modified version of mailutil that (among 
other things) performs one append per message.


| Do people just tweak their kernels to have some insane number of FDs
| available in order to compensate for this?

We did that, too.

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Re: BUG? File descriptor use in cmd_append (for MULTIAPPEND) results in many open files

2006-12-11 Thread Nik Conwell


On Dec 11, 2006, at 12:29 PM, Andrew Morgan wrote:


On Mon, 11 Dec 2006, Nik Conwell wrote:

I'm using the UW mailutil to transfer mailboxes from UW to Cyrus  
(2.3.7).  It uses APPEND, specifically multiappend (single APPEND  
with multiple messages being appended).  Cyrus-imapd handles this  
multiappend by creating stage files for each appended message and  
leaving the file descriptor open.  The problem is that after 240  
messages, we run out of file descriptors and so an open() of the  
next stage file fails with EMFILE.  I updated /etc/cyrus.conf to  
make the max fds be 1024 (AFAICT kernel MAX) which helped somewhat  
but not for larger mailboxes with  1008 messages.


Shouldn't the multiappend/append be closing the FD for each stage  
file and then reopening it later as it needs it?


Do people just tweak their kernels to have some insane number of  
FDs available in order to compensate for this?


Or, do people not use mailutil and instead use something that  
issues multiple append commands rather than a single append with  
multiple e-mails?


We run with a much, much larger number of file descriptors here.   
I've increased the system limit to around 200k (/proc/sys/fs/file- 
max on linux).  This is for the day-to-day running of Cyrus, so I  
don't know if you would need a higher limit for running mailutil  
(but I doubt it).


In practice, each of my backends has only used a maximum of around  
12k file descriptors, but I'd hate to run out!  :)


That's for the entire system though, right?  I'm running into a 1024  
limit per process, namely the cyrus imap server process has all the  
appended stage files open.  Am I missing something fundamental here?   
(I probably am because I would have figured people would have run  
into this issue already...)


BTW - my /proc/sys/fs/file-max has 406572.


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Re: BUG? File descriptor use in cmd_append (for MULTIAPPEND) results in many open files

2006-12-11 Thread Rich Graves

Nik Conwell wrote:
multiple messages being appended).  Cyrus-imapd handles this multiappend 
by creating stage files for each appended message and leaving the file 
descriptor open.  The problem is that after 240 messages, we run out of 
file descriptors and so an open() of the next stage file fails with 
EMFILE.  I updated /etc/cyrus.conf to make the max fds be 1024 (AFAICT 
kernel MAX) which helped somewhat but not for larger mailboxes with  
1008 messages.


Excellent troubleshooting. I'm getting worried that I have a problem and 
don't know it. Did you get useful error messages (that we can search 
for, too)?


The man page for cyrus.conf suggests that the default is 256, but that 
the integer value is optional. So if maxfds does not appear in 
cyrus.conf at all, is the default 256, or is it unlimited (up to 
ulimit)? Looks like the former to me. Ick.


Shouldn't the multiappend/append be closing the FD for each stage file 
and then reopening it later as it needs it?


Probably.
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Re: BUG? File descriptor use in cmd_append (for MULTIAPPEND) results in many open files

2006-12-11 Thread Andrew Morgan

On Mon, 11 Dec 2006, Nik Conwell wrote:


On Dec 11, 2006, at 12:29 PM, Andrew Morgan wrote:


On Mon, 11 Dec 2006, Nik Conwell wrote:

I'm using the UW mailutil to transfer mailboxes from UW to Cyrus (2.3.7). 
It uses APPEND, specifically multiappend (single APPEND with multiple 
messages being appended).  Cyrus-imapd handles this multiappend by 
creating stage files for each appended message and leaving the file 
descriptor open.  The problem is that after 240 messages, we run out of 
file descriptors and so an open() of the next stage file fails with 
EMFILE.  I updated /etc/cyrus.conf to make the max fds be 1024 (AFAICT 
kernel MAX) which helped somewhat but not for larger mailboxes with  1008 
messages.


Shouldn't the multiappend/append be closing the FD for each stage file and 
then reopening it later as it needs it?


Do people just tweak their kernels to have some insane number of FDs 
available in order to compensate for this?


Or, do people not use mailutil and instead use something that issues 
multiple append commands rather than a single append with multiple 
e-mails?


We run with a much, much larger number of file descriptors here.  I've 
increased the system limit to around 200k (/proc/sys/fs/file-max on linux). 
This is for the day-to-day running of Cyrus, so I don't know if you would 
need a higher limit for running mailutil (but I doubt it).


In practice, each of my backends has only used a maximum of around 12k file 
descriptors, but I'd hate to run out!  :)


That's for the entire system though, right?  I'm running into a 1024 limit 
per process, namely the cyrus imap server process has all the appended stage 
files open.  Am I missing something fundamental here?  (I probably am because 
I would have figured people would have run into this issue already...)


BTW - my /proc/sys/fs/file-max has 406572.


Ah, then you just need to up the ulimits in your cyrus init script. 
Something like:


# Crank up the limits
ulimit -n 209702
ulimit -u 2048
ulimit -c 102400


Andy

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Re: When is it safe to adjust berkeley_cachesize?

2006-12-11 Thread Ross Boylan
On Sun, 2006-12-10 at 07:32 -0600, Gary Mills wrote:
 On Sat, Dec 09, 2006 at 10:12:36PM -0800, Ross Boylan wrote:
  I've returned to investigating why populating Cyrus 2.2 with UW's
  mailutil is rather slow (20 or 30 messages/second).  One advice I've
  seen is to tweak berkeley_cachesize.  When is it safe to do so?  Only
  when creating a new database?  Only when cyrus is shutdown? On the
  fly?
 
 Last time I did this, I just ran a bunch of them in parallel.  That
 allowed me to adjust the load placed on the IMAP server.
 
That sounds worth a try.  I've been assuming the hold up is disk access,
or maybe db access, in which case it didn't seem going parallel would
help.  But that's just an assumption; if it worked for you maybe it will
work for me.
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Re: BUG? File descriptor use in cmd_append (for MULTIAPPEND) results in many open files

2006-12-11 Thread Nik Conwell


On Dec 11, 2006, at 1:02 PM, Rich Graves wrote:


Nik Conwell wrote:
multiple messages being appended).  Cyrus-imapd handles this  
multiappend by creating stage files for each appended message and  
leaving the file descriptor open.  The problem is that after 240  
messages, we run out of file descriptors and so an open() of the  
next stage file fails with EMFILE.  I updated /etc/cyrus.conf to  
make the max fds be 1024 (AFAICT kernel MAX) which helped somewhat  
but not for larger mailboxes with  1008 messages.


Excellent troubleshooting. I'm getting worried that I have a  
problem and don't know it. Did you get useful error messages (that  
we can search for, too)?


The server logs:
  IOERROR: creating message file /var/spool/imap/stage./ 
828-1165849099-1008: File exists


The file is named pid-timestamp-stage_sequence_number

The File exists error is bogus.  With strace you see the real error:

open(/var/spool/imap/stage./828-1165849099-1008, O_RDWR|O_CREAT| 
O_TRUNC, 0666) = -1 EMFILE (Too many open files)


and then the code goes on try a mkdir so it loses the errno:

mkdir(/var/spool/imap/stage./, 0755)  = -1 EEXIST (File exists)

following through the rest of the trace you see everything being  
unwound:


close(1023) = 0
munmap(0xb652b000, 4096)= 0
unlink(/var/spool/imap/stage./828-1165849099-1007) = 0
close(1022) = 0
munmap(0xb652c000, 4096)= 0
unlink(/var/spool/imap/stage./828-1165849099-1006) = 0
close(1021) = 0

[...]




The man page for cyrus.conf suggests that the default is 256, but  
that the integer value is optional. So if maxfds does not appear in  
cyrus.conf at all, is the default 256, or is it unlimited (up to  
ulimit)? Looks like the former to me. Ick.


Looks like the former to me as well since it was crapping out at 240  
stage files (a bunch of files already open when it started).



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Re: BUG? File descriptor use in cmd_append (for MULTIAPPEND) results in many open files

2006-12-11 Thread Nik Conwell


On Dec 11, 2006, at 1:27 PM, Andrew Morgan wrote:


On Mon, 11 Dec 2006, Nik Conwell wrote:


On Dec 11, 2006, at 12:29 PM, Andrew Morgan wrote:


On Mon, 11 Dec 2006, Nik Conwell wrote:
I'm using the UW mailutil to transfer mailboxes from UW to Cyrus  
(2.3.7). It uses APPEND, specifically multiappend (single APPEND  
with multiple messages being appended).  Cyrus-imapd handles  
this multiappend by creating stage files for each appended  
message and leaving the file descriptor open.  The problem is  
that after 240 messages, we run out of file descriptors and so  
an open() of the next stage file fails with EMFILE.  I updated / 
etc/cyrus.conf to make the max fds be 1024 (AFAICT kernel MAX)  
which helped somewhat but not for larger mailboxes with  1008  
messages.
Shouldn't the multiappend/append be closing the FD for each  
stage file and then reopening it later as it needs it?
Do people just tweak their kernels to have some insane number of  
FDs available in order to compensate for this?
Or, do people not use mailutil and instead use something that  
issues multiple append commands rather than a single append with  
multiple e-mails?
We run with a much, much larger number of file descriptors here.   
I've increased the system limit to around 200k (/proc/sys/fs/file- 
max on linux). This is for the day-to-day running of Cyrus, so I  
don't know if you would need a higher limit for running mailutil  
(but I doubt it).
In practice, each of my backends has only used a maximum of  
around 12k file descriptors, but I'd hate to run out!  :)


That's for the entire system though, right?  I'm running into a  
1024 limit per process, namely the cyrus imap server process has  
all the appended stage files open.  Am I missing something  
fundamental here?  (I probably am because I would have figured  
people would have run into this issue already...)


BTW - my /proc/sys/fs/file-max has 406572.


Ah, then you just need to up the ulimits in your cyrus init script.  
Something like:


# Crank up the limits
ulimit -n 209702
ulimit -u 2048
ulimit -c 102400


That did the trick.  Thanks a lot.
-nik


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cyrus replication question

2006-12-11 Thread stas

while trying to setup cyrus replication
i am getting the following error
on the secondary server ( the one that is getting a copy of everything)

Dec  9 12:35:34 mars master[7701]: about to exec 
/usr/local/cyrus/bin/sync_server
Dec  9 12:35:34 mars syncserver[7701]: executed
Dec  9 12:35:34 mars syncserver[7701]: accepted connection
Dec  9 12:35:34 mars syncserver[7701]: cmdloop(): startup
Dec  9 12:35:34 mars master[7694]: process 7701 exited, status 75
Dec  9 12:35:34 mars master[7694]: service syncserver pid 7701 in BUSY
state: terminated abnormally

here are the settings from both imapd.conf and cyrus.conf
for both master and backup server.

master server
(from where everything is being copied)

cyrus.conf

under START section:
syncclientcmd=/usr/local/cyrus/bin/sync_client -r -t


imapd.conf

#replication configurations
sync_host: server.mydomain.com
sync_authname: cyrus
sync_passwd: password
sync_machineid: 1
sync_log: 1

secondary
(to where everything is bein copied)
cyrus.conf

SERVICES {
syncservercmd=sync_server listen=csync






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Re: BUG? File descriptor use in cmd_append (for MULTIAPPEND) results in many open files

2006-12-11 Thread Clint Dilks
Hi, have you considered using imapsync instead? 


Nik Conwell wrote:


I'm using the UW mailutil to transfer mailboxes from UW to Cyrus 
(2.3.7).  It uses APPEND, specifically multiappend (single APPEND with 
multiple messages being appended).  Cyrus-imapd handles this 
multiappend by creating stage files for each appended message and 
leaving the file descriptor open.  The problem is that after 240 
messages, we run out of file descriptors and so an open() of the next 
stage file fails with EMFILE.  I updated /etc/cyrus.conf to make the 
max fds be 1024 (AFAICT kernel MAX) which helped somewhat but not for 
larger mailboxes with  1008 messages.


Shouldn't the multiappend/append be closing the FD for each stage file 
and then reopening it later as it needs it?


Do people just tweak their kernels to have some insane number of FDs 
available in order to compensate for this?


Or, do people not use mailutil and instead use something that issues 
multiple append commands rather than a single append with multiple 
e-mails?


-nik


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Re: cyrus replication question

2006-12-11 Thread stas

another question :

do i need to create mailboxes
on the replica server or will they be created by the replication
process ?


 while trying to setup cyrus replication
 i am getting the following error
 on the secondary server ( the one that is getting a copy of everything)

 Dec  9 12:35:34 mars master[7701]: about to exec
 /usr/local/cyrus/bin/sync_server
 Dec  9 12:35:34 mars syncserver[7701]: executed
 Dec  9 12:35:34 mars syncserver[7701]: accepted connection
 Dec  9 12:35:34 mars syncserver[7701]: cmdloop(): startup
 Dec  9 12:35:34 mars master[7694]: process 7701 exited, status 75
 Dec  9 12:35:34 mars master[7694]: service syncserver pid 7701 in BUSY
 state: terminated abnormally

 here are the settings from both imapd.conf and cyrus.conf
 for both master and backup server.

 master server
 (from where everything is being copied)

 cyrus.conf

 under START section:
 syncclientcmd=/usr/local/cyrus/bin/sync_client -r -t


 imapd.conf

 #replication configurations
 sync_host: server.mydomain.com
 sync_authname: cyrus
 sync_passwd: password
 sync_machineid: 1
 sync_log: 1

 secondary
 (to where everything is bein copied)
 cyrus.conf

 SERVICES {
 syncservercmd=sync_server listen=csync





 
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Re: cyrus replication question

2006-12-11 Thread stas

i started looking around
for one i found that for whatever reason
both sync and some other default process was using 2005/tcp port
(in /etc/services )
after taking care of that

i kicked off on sync_client on master server
(after logging in as cyrus)
on master server i get
can not connect to server 'replica.mydomain.com trying in 15 seconds.

and in /var/log/messages the following comes up
(still on master server)

Dec 11 16:09:56 master_server sync_client[93038]: TLS client engine:
cannot load CA data
Dec 11 16:09:56 master_server sync_client[93038]: Doing a peer verify
Dec 11 16:09:56 master_server sync_client[93038]: verify error:num=18:self
signed certificate
Dec 11 16:09:56 master_server sync_client[93038]: starttls: TLSv1 with
cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits new) no authentication
Dec 11 16:09:57 master_server sync_client[93038]: No worthy mechs found
Dec 11 16:09:57 master_server sync_client[93038]: couldn't authenticate to
backend server: no mechanism available
-

/var/log/messeges on replica server
is not saying anything at this point
but /var/log/debug.log has the following :


Dec 11 15:56:33 replica_server syncserver[92364]: accepted connection
Dec 11 15:56:33 replica_server syncserver[92364]: cmdloop(): startup
Dec 11 15:56:33 replica_server syncserver[92364]: mystore: starting txn
2147483668
Dec 11 15:56:33 replica_server syncserver[92364]: mystore: committing txn
2147483668
Dec 11 15:56:49 replica_server syncserver[92364]: accepted connection
Dec 11 15:56:49 replica_server syncserver[92364]: cmdloop(): startup
Dec 11 15:56:49 replica_server syncserver[92364]: mydelete: starting txn
2147483669
Dec 11 15:56:49 replica_server syncserver[92364]: mydelete: committing txn
2147483669
Dec 11 15:56:49 replica_server syncserver[92364]: mystore: starting txn
2147483670
Dec 11 15:56:49 replica_server syncserver[92364]: mystore: committing txn
2147483670

 while trying to setup cyrus replication
 i am getting the following error
 on the secondary server ( the one that is getting a copy of everything)

 Dec  9 12:35:34 mars master[7701]: about to exec
 /usr/local/cyrus/bin/sync_server
 Dec  9 12:35:34 mars syncserver[7701]: executed
 Dec  9 12:35:34 mars syncserver[7701]: accepted connection
 Dec  9 12:35:34 mars syncserver[7701]: cmdloop(): startup
 Dec  9 12:35:34 mars master[7694]: process 7701 exited, status 75
 Dec  9 12:35:34 mars master[7694]: service syncserver pid 7701 in BUSY
 state: terminated abnormally

 here are the settings from both imapd.conf and cyrus.conf
 for both master and backup server.

 master server
 (from where everything is being copied)

 cyrus.conf

 under START section:
 syncclientcmd=/usr/local/cyrus/bin/sync_client -r -t


 imapd.conf

 #replication configurations
 sync_host: server.mydomain.com
 sync_authname: cyrus
 sync_passwd: password
 sync_machineid: 1
 sync_log: 1

 secondary
 (to where everything is bein copied)
 cyrus.conf

 SERVICES {
 syncservercmd=sync_server listen=csync





 
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Re: some notes on upgrading from 2.1.15 to 2.2.12

2006-12-11 Thread Rudy Gevaert

Simon Matter wrote:


In my case running quota didn't help until I reconstructed the mailbox.
And I never tried to run quota -f with a mailbox-prefix. And then, I'm
running 2.3.7 while you run a much older version which could also make a
difference.

I recommend to run reconstruct first and then quota -f.

Simon


Before doing it on the full system I would like to run it for my own
mailbox.  But:

  Running quota with both the  -f  option  and  mailbox-prefix
  arguments is not recommended.



I took the chance, and it doesn't seem to have any consequences. 
Several users have folders without a cyrus.header file*.  I have run a 
reconstruct on those folders only and then I was able to run quota -f 
user.login.  I also had to reset permissions on those folders too.


* I have no idea how those folders got there.  It looks like they come 
from a previous migration.


Rudy

PS Loosing /var/imap over the weekend is not funny :)

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virtdomains + global admin + sql backend for sasl2 ... how?

2006-12-11 Thread Marc G. Fournier
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'k, I'm obviously missing something, cause its not working ...

I setup defaultdomain in imapd.conf to point to the domain, so now when I try 
to login, it shows:

plaintext cyrus SASL(-13): user not found: checkpass failed

and, in my sql backend, I have a user '[EMAIL PROTECTED]', such that:

sasl_pwcheck_method: auxprop
auxprop_plugin: sql

sasl_sql_engine: mysql
sasl_sql_hostnames: localhost
sasl_sql_database: dtc
sasl_sql_user: dtcdaemons
sasl_sql_select: SELECT passwd FROM pop_access WHERE fullemail = '[EMAIL 
PROTECTED]'
sasl_sql_verbose: yes

 SELECT passwd FROM pop_access WHERE fullemail = '[EMAIL PROTECTED]';
++
| passwd |
++
| cyrus  |
++
1 row in set (0.00 sec)

But I still get an auth-failed ...

And the sasl_sql_verbose setting doesn't appear to do anything, since I'm 
getting nadda in my log files that I can find :(

So, what's the magic I'm missing here to get it to work? :(

Thanks ...

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Re: virtdomains + global admin + sql backend for sasl2 ... how?

2006-12-11 Thread Marc G. Fournier
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 'k, I'm obviously missing something, cause its not working ...

 I setup defaultdomain in imapd.conf to point to the domain, so now when I try
 to login, it shows:

 plaintext cyrus SASL(-13): user not found: checkpass failed

 and, in my sql backend, I have a user '[EMAIL PROTECTED]', such that:

 sasl_pwcheck_method: auxprop
 auxprop_plugin: sql

 sasl_sql_engine: mysql
 sasl_sql_hostnames: localhost
 sasl_sql_database: dtc
 sasl_sql_user: dtcdaemons
 sasl_sql_select: SELECT passwd FROM pop_access WHERE fullemail = '[EMAIL 
 PROTECTED]'
 sasl_sql_verbose: yes

 SELECT passwd FROM pop_access WHERE fullemail = '[EMAIL PROTECTED]';
 ++
| passwd |
 ++
| cyrus  |
 ++
 1 row in set (0.00 sec)

 But I still get an auth-failed ...

 And the sasl_sql_verbose setting doesn't appear to do anything, since I'm
 getting nadda in my log files that I can find :(

 So, what's the magic I'm missing here to get it to work? :(

'k, think I just figured it out ... had virtdomain set to 1 .. changing it to 
userid seems to fix it .. will do more testing, but Ithink I have it ...

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Re: DB4 downgrade

2006-12-11 Thread Cheng-Jih Chen

Simon Matter wrote:


I finally got a window of scheduled downtime to test this, and I'm
having problems.  Here's what I did:

# /etc/init.d/cyrus-imapd stop
# db_checkpoint -v -1 -h /var/lib/imap/db
# db_recover -v -h /var/lib/imap/db
# rm db/*
# /usr/lib/cyrus-imapd/cvt_cyrusdb /var/lib/imap/deliver.db berkeley
/var/lib/imap/deliver.db.skip skiplist
# /usr/lib/cyrus-imapd/cvt_cyrusdb /var/lib/imap/tls_sessions.db
berkeley /var/lib/imap/tls_sessions.db.skip skiplist
# mv deliver.db.skip deliver.db ; mv tls_sessions.db.skip tls_sessions.db
# chown cyrus:mail tls_sessions.db deliver.db
# /etc/init.d/cyrus-imapd start

At this point, the log explodes with messages along the lines of:

Dec 11 06:11:53 ajax imaps[1394]: DBERROR: critical database situation
Dec 11 06:11:53 ajax master[32203]: service imaps pid 1394 in READY
state: terminated abnormally
Dec 11 06:11:53 ajax master[32203]: service lmtpunix pid 1397 in READY
state: terminated abnormally
Dec 11 06:11:53 ajax imap[1395]: DBERROR A
  : db4
Dec 11 06:11:53 ajax imap[1395]: DBERROR: critical database situation
Dec 11 06:11:53 ajax master[32203]: service imap pid 1395 in READY
state: terminated abnormally
Dec 11 06:11:53 ajax imap[1399]: DBERROR A
  : db4
Dec 11 06:11:53 ajax imap[1399]: DBERROR: critical database situation
Dec 11 06:11:53 ajax imaps[1400]: DBERROR A
   : db4
Dec 11 06:11:53 ajax imaps[1400]: DBERROR: critical database situation

Any ideas on why this is going on?

I did notice that /var/lib/imap/rpm/db.cfg.cache has entries along the
lines of:

CONFIG_DB_DUPLICATE=berkeley
CONFIG_DB_MBOX=skiplist
CONFIG_DB_SEEN=skiplist
CONFIG_DB_SUBS=flat
CONFIG_DB_TLS=berkeley
CONFIG_DB_ANNOTATION=skiplist
CONFIG_DB_SIEVE=2.2.3

Is there someplace I need to tell imapd that deliver and tls_sessions
are now skiplist?  I don't see anything in /etc/imapd.conf and
/etc/cyrus.conf.


Something is really broken here...
First shutdown using 'service cyrus-imapd stop', then put this in
/etc/imapd.conf:
duplicate_db: skiplist
tlscache_db: skiplist

Now try to start it up using 'service cyrus-imapd start'.
Unfortunately I think the cyrus-imapd package shipped with FC4 has some
bugs in the init scripts. I recommend you use my rpms, which are newer and
have less bugs. RedHat ships old versions of my rpms which don't include
the latest bug fixes. Find the source rpm here:
http://www.invoca.ch/pub/packages/cyrus-imapd/


I tried what you suggested regarding just the /etc/imapd.conf changes, 
but without using your RPMs.  There was no change: DBERROR messages 
everywhere until the imapd service was stopped, etc.  I will try using 
your RPMs during the next period of scheduled maintenance, later this 
week.  Thanks again.



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cyrus umask

2006-12-11 Thread Peter Hamtal
Hello,

i have installed cyrus 2.2.12 on gentoo.

My problem is that the umask didnĀ“t work like it should when moving
messages in thunderbird from one folder to another.


I use amavis on my system and want to set moved messages with following
permissions: 650
It worked when cyrus is delivering the mail through sieve to the
folders, but when i move a message in thunderbird i get following
permissions set in the folder for example SPAM.
The permission is then 600 ?
I do not understand why ? What process of cyrus is moving messages when
they where moved with an MUA ?

My umask in imapd.conf is set to:
umask: 027
 
User and group of the imap spool Folders are:
cyrus:mail

group:
mail::12:mail,cyrus,postfix,amavis

Are there any security issues not to set the umask to 027 ?

Regards,
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How to remove a users sieve sieve script?

2006-12-11 Thread Timo Veith
Hello info-cyrus readers,

how can I remove a users sieve script? Is it possible to just delete his 
files under /var/imap/sieve/x/y ?

Kind regards,
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Re: timeouts when connecting to imap server

2006-12-11 Thread Timo Veith
Hi,

isn't there anyone who can say something about my finding? Is it wrong 
and/or should I take it to cyrus-devel?


Kind regards,
Timo

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