Re: [Inkscape-docs] [Inkscape-devel] Issue tracking for Inkscape moves to Gitlab

2019-01-17 Thread brynn

For this page:  https://inkscape.org/contribute/report-bugs/

I had 6 or 7 detailed comments/edits explained for the new contents under 
"Search the bug trackers" which were added, but now I think I can say it easier 
this way.  Most of that info either repeats info that's already mentioned 
elsewhere on the page, or can be.


Could I just edit the page, but not publish?  Or would you like me to explain 
every change which I would suggest?


Why is it suggested that users who find a bug already mentioned in LP, to 
transfer it to GL?  Aren't all the LP bugs going to be moved to GL anyway?


All best,
brynn

-Original Message- 
From: Maren Hachmann

Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2019 12:13 PM
To: brynn ; inkscape-de...@lists.sourceforge.net ; Inkscape-Docs
Subject: Re: [Inkscape-docs] [Inkscape-devel] Issue tracking for Inkscape moves 
to Gitlab


Brynn, bug experts,

I've now updated these pages:


https://inkscape.org/develop/bug-management/
https://inkscape.org/develop/getting-started/
https://inkscape.org/contribute/translations/
https://inkscape.org/contribute/report-bugs/
https://inkscape.org/learn/faq/

which contained link and mention of the launchpad bug tracker (most
still do).

Please review, and let me know when they are finalized (enough) for
translation.

Maren

Am 15.01.19 um 18:07 schrieb brynn:

If either 0.92.4 or 1.0 alpha is about to be released, can't the edits
just say 'from now on'?   (Not really "from now on" specifically, but in
effect it would be - here's where new bug reports go now.) Because users
wouldn't be reporting bugs for 0.92.3 or older, after 0.92.4 is
released, would they?

Thanks,
brynn

-Original Message- From: Maren Hachmann
Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2019 9:19 AM
To: brynn ; inkscape-de...@lists.sourceforge.net ; Inkscape-Docs
Subject: Re: [Inkscape-docs] [Inkscape-devel] Issue tracking for
Inkscape moves to Gitlab

Am 15.01.19 um 17:08 schrieb brynn:

I could try to do that.  But I need specifics.


- Thank you, Brynn.


Is the only thing that needs to be changed is the link (and supporting
text around the link, if necessary)?


- No, the new policy about both bug trackers needs to be mentioned and
explained on the 'report bugs' page, at least.

However, for that we still need a reply from Bryce about the Inkscape
version that applies to. Wait for that before you start, please.

I can see why he said 0.92.4 and higher - because that's what is
currently under development. I don't know what Marc's rationale is for
only intending to do this for alpha and higher. Maybe there was some
kind of misunderstanding in their communication earlier, dunno, just
know that we need to know before we make any changes, and even before we
publish the release news article...

On the other pages, probably a simple switch is sufficient, or change to
a link to report bugs page if suitable, to have 1 central place that
needs to be updated instead of multiple places.


Should the link go to
https://gitlab.com/inkscape/inkscape/issues, or directly to open a new
Issue form?


- Better allow users to search for duplicates first, so not the new
issue form.


Of course I'll list every change for translators and send it to you :-)


- Thank you, that will be awesome.


I'm probably not the best person to update the wiki.  I'm not very
familiar with it.


- If you find something that needs updating, you can let us know here,
then.

Maren


All best,
brynn

-Original Message- From: Maren Hachmann
Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2019 8:08 AM
To: inkscape-de...@lists.sourceforge.net ; Inkscape-Docs
Subject: Re: [Inkscape-docs] [Inkscape-devel] Issue tracking for
Inkscape moves to Gitlab

Hi,

could someone help web content editors by browsing the website and
looking for places that require updating?

I think it's probably FAQ, the bug report page, contribute testing, and
develop pages.

Then there must also be some Wiki pages.

I'm currently a bit busy with other stuff, so I'd appreciate if someone
gave me a list with links + screenshots or similar.

Or, if someone updated the pages, that would be cool - but then I'd
still need a list (preferably with screenshots), for being able to
notify translators.

Maren

Am 15.01.19 um 10:56 schrieb Bryce Harrington:

Hi all,

As of this week, the Inkscape project is shifting to Gitlab for issue
tracking in place of Launchpad.

  https://gitlab.com/groups/inkscape/-/issues


We've been using Gitlab for our code hosting and other purposes for a
year and a half now[1], and have found it to be reliable and
convenient.  We didn't migrate Issue Tracking until now, so we could
take time to make sure we had a plan:

1.  Going forward, new bug reports should be filed only in Gitlab.

2.  Launchpad will remain available as a historical archive of our bug
reports.  Filing bugs there will remain possible for now, but

Re: [Inkscape-docs] [Inkscape-devel] Issue tracking for Inkscape moves to Gitlab

2019-01-17 Thread Maren Hachmann
Brynn, bug experts,

I've now updated these pages:


https://inkscape.org/develop/bug-management/
https://inkscape.org/develop/getting-started/
https://inkscape.org/contribute/translations/
https://inkscape.org/contribute/report-bugs/
https://inkscape.org/learn/faq/

which contained link and mention of the launchpad bug tracker (most
still do).

Please review, and let me know when they are finalized (enough) for
translation.

Maren

Am 15.01.19 um 18:07 schrieb brynn:
> If either 0.92.4 or 1.0 alpha is about to be released, can't the edits
> just say 'from now on'?   (Not really "from now on" specifically, but in
> effect it would be - here's where new bug reports go now.) Because users
> wouldn't be reporting bugs for 0.92.3 or older, after 0.92.4 is
> released, would they?
> 
> Thanks,
> brynn
> 
> -Original Message- From: Maren Hachmann
> Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2019 9:19 AM
> To: brynn ; inkscape-de...@lists.sourceforge.net ; Inkscape-Docs
> Subject: Re: [Inkscape-docs] [Inkscape-devel] Issue tracking for
> Inkscape moves to Gitlab
> 
> Am 15.01.19 um 17:08 schrieb brynn:
>> I could try to do that.  But I need specifics.
> 
> - Thank you, Brynn.
> 
>> Is the only thing that needs to be changed is the link (and supporting
>> text around the link, if necessary)?
> 
> - No, the new policy about both bug trackers needs to be mentioned and
> explained on the 'report bugs' page, at least.
> 
> However, for that we still need a reply from Bryce about the Inkscape
> version that applies to. Wait for that before you start, please.
> 
> I can see why he said 0.92.4 and higher - because that's what is
> currently under development. I don't know what Marc's rationale is for
> only intending to do this for alpha and higher. Maybe there was some
> kind of misunderstanding in their communication earlier, dunno, just
> know that we need to know before we make any changes, and even before we
> publish the release news article...
> 
> On the other pages, probably a simple switch is sufficient, or change to
> a link to report bugs page if suitable, to have 1 central place that
> needs to be updated instead of multiple places.
> 
>> Should the link go to
>> https://gitlab.com/inkscape/inkscape/issues, or directly to open a new
>> Issue form?
> 
> - Better allow users to search for duplicates first, so not the new
> issue form.
> 
>> Of course I'll list every change for translators and send it to you :-)
> 
> - Thank you, that will be awesome.
> 
>> I'm probably not the best person to update the wiki.  I'm not very
>> familiar with it.
> 
> - If you find something that needs updating, you can let us know here,
> then.
> 
> Maren
> 
>> All best,
>> brynn
>>
>> -Original Message- From: Maren Hachmann
>> Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2019 8:08 AM
>> To: inkscape-de...@lists.sourceforge.net ; Inkscape-Docs
>> Subject: Re: [Inkscape-docs] [Inkscape-devel] Issue tracking for
>> Inkscape moves to Gitlab
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> could someone help web content editors by browsing the website and
>> looking for places that require updating?
>>
>> I think it's probably FAQ, the bug report page, contribute testing, and
>> develop pages.
>>
>> Then there must also be some Wiki pages.
>>
>> I'm currently a bit busy with other stuff, so I'd appreciate if someone
>> gave me a list with links + screenshots or similar.
>>
>> Or, if someone updated the pages, that would be cool - but then I'd
>> still need a list (preferably with screenshots), for being able to
>> notify translators.
>>
>> Maren
>>
>> Am 15.01.19 um 10:56 schrieb Bryce Harrington:
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> As of this week, the Inkscape project is shifting to Gitlab for issue
>>> tracking in place of Launchpad.
>>>
>>>   https://gitlab.com/groups/inkscape/-/issues
>>>
>>>
>>> We've been using Gitlab for our code hosting and other purposes for a
>>> year and a half now[1], and have found it to be reliable and
>>> convenient.  We didn't migrate Issue Tracking until now, so we could
>>> take time to make sure we had a plan:
>>>
>>> 1.  Going forward, new bug reports should be filed only in Gitlab.
>>>
>>> 2.  Launchpad will remain available as a historical archive of our bug
>>>     reports.  Filing bugs there will remain possible for now, but
>>>     discouraged.
>>>
>>&g

Re: [Inkscape-docs] [Inkscape-devel] Issue tracking for Inkscape moves to Gitlab

2019-01-17 Thread Maren Hachmann
Am 17.01.19 um 03:06 schrieb Bryce Harrington:

> Well, having a unified inbox on gitlab as you proposed may get us
> partway towards something like that.  If we accept 0.92 bugs in gitlab
> (for 0.92.4 and newer) then we can be more aggressive at discouraging
> bug filing on launchpad - we can scrub all mention of it and all links
> to it from all our public pages.

- On most public pages scrubbing is not possible (links to specific bugs
in the FAQ, for example) or does not make sense (instructions for bug
triage, instructions for searching for existing reports before posting a
new one).

Maren



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Re: [Inkscape-docs] [Inkscape-devel] Issue tracking for Inkscape moves to Gitlab

2019-01-16 Thread Bryce Harrington
On Wed, Jan 16, 2019 at 07:27:47PM +0100, Patrick Storz wrote:
> Am 16.01.2019 um 03:55 schrieb Maren Hachmann:
> > I'd like to ask Marc, Patrick and Bryce to review the changes.
> > https://inkscape.org/contribute/report-bugs/
> 
> Thanks for taking care of this!
> 
> I've done some minor edits to simplify / clarify (among others I tried to
> give a short explanation on why there are two trackers but without getting
> too verbose). Feel free to cross-check and iterate!
> 
> I guess we might want to include a link to the guide on how to migrate a bug
> once it's ready in the relevant line? (I think Chris was preparing one?)

That would be great to include when it's available.
 
> As a general note I'm afraid some users were lazy and didn't check properly
> for duplicates before. Having two trackers will likely not make that any
> more probable.

Yes, with two trackers in play, that's certainly going to be a concern.

(I tend not to mind if users post dupes - gitlab and launchpad make it
easy enough to mark bugs as dupes.  I'd rather have that then deal with
a user that incorrectly decides they have the same issue as an existing
report, when they don't, and end up sidetracking analysis discussion
with what is effectively just noise...)

> Even for everybody else it obviously involves additional
> effort. As I don't see a way to "solve" this (short of nuking or completely
> disregarding the old tracker)

Well, having a unified inbox on gitlab as you proposed may get us
partway towards something like that.  If we accept 0.92 bugs in gitlab
(for 0.92.4 and newer) then we can be more aggressive at discouraging
bug filing on launchpad - we can scrub all mention of it and all links
to it from all our public pages.

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Re: [Inkscape-docs] [Inkscape-devel] Issue tracking for Inkscape moves to Gitlab

2019-01-16 Thread Patrick Storz

Am 16.01.2019 um 03:55 schrieb Maren Hachmann:

I'd like to ask Marc, Patrick and Bryce to review the changes.
https://inkscape.org/contribute/report-bugs/


Thanks for taking care of this!

I've done some minor edits to simplify / clarify (among others I tried 
to give a short explanation on why there are two trackers but without 
getting too verbose). Feel free to cross-check and iterate!


I guess we might want to include a link to the guide on how to migrate a 
bug once it's ready in the relevant line? (I think Chris was preparing one?)


As a general note I'm afraid some users were lazy and didn't check 
properly for duplicates before. Having two trackers will likely not make 
that any more probable. Even for everybody else it obviously involves 
additional effort. As I don't see a way to "solve" this (short of nuking 
or completely disregarding the old tracker), I tried at least to change 
the wording a bit to explain that reporters themselves might profit from 
searching for old bugs on Launchpad, too, instead of simply indicating 
that we don't want them to file duplicates even if the reasons would be 
obvious and the request warranted. (Actually I'm starting to realize 
that for these kinds of pages it's more helpful to pick a language that 
tries to explain how filing reports "properly" can be mutually 
advantageous for reporters and project members alike, instead of trying 
to explain from the point of view of either party).


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Re: [Inkscape-docs] [Inkscape-devel] Issue tracking for Inkscape moves to Gitlab

2019-01-15 Thread Maren Hachmann
Hi Brynn,

I've updated the 'report bugs' page already, in a preliminary manner,
because the release will probably be tomorrow, and the page is linked
from the release notes.

So it needs to be up-to-date whenever someone decides to publish.
Whoever that may be.

I'd like to ask Marc, Patrick and Bryce to review the changes.
https://inkscape.org/contribute/report-bugs/

They affect the 'search the bugtrackers' part, and I changed the link at
the bottom.

Thank you for offering your help, Brynn, and already helping to collect
info!

Would you be able to look out for more links to launchpad that need to
be updated on the website (probably FAQ and more)?

Maren


Am 15.01.19 um 17:08 schrieb brynn:
> I could try to do that.  But I need specifics.
> 
> Is the only thing that needs to be changed is the link (and supporting
> text around the link, if necessary)?  Should the link go to
> https://gitlab.com/inkscape/inkscape/issues, or directly to open a new
> Issue form?
> 
> Of course I'll list every change for translators and send it to you :-)
> 
> I'm probably not the best person to update the wiki.  I'm not very
> familiar with it.
> 
> All best,
> brynn
> 
> -Original Message- From: Maren Hachmann
> Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2019 8:08 AM
> To: inkscape-de...@lists.sourceforge.net ; Inkscape-Docs
> Subject: Re: [Inkscape-docs] [Inkscape-devel] Issue tracking for
> Inkscape moves to Gitlab
> 
> Hi,
> 
> could someone help web content editors by browsing the website and
> looking for places that require updating?
> 
> I think it's probably FAQ, the bug report page, contribute testing, and
> develop pages.
> 
> Then there must also be some Wiki pages.
> 
> I'm currently a bit busy with other stuff, so I'd appreciate if someone
> gave me a list with links + screenshots or similar.
> 
> Or, if someone updated the pages, that would be cool - but then I'd
> still need a list (preferably with screenshots), for being able to
> notify translators.
> 
> Maren
> 
> Am 15.01.19 um 10:56 schrieb Bryce Harrington:
>> Hi all,
>>
>> As of this week, the Inkscape project is shifting to Gitlab for issue
>> tracking in place of Launchpad.
>>
>>   https://gitlab.com/groups/inkscape/-/issues
>>
>>
>> We've been using Gitlab for our code hosting and other purposes for a
>> year and a half now[1], and have found it to be reliable and
>> convenient.  We didn't migrate Issue Tracking until now, so we could
>> take time to make sure we had a plan:
>>
>> 1.  Going forward, new bug reports should be filed only in Gitlab.
>>
>> 2.  Launchpad will remain available as a historical archive of our bug
>>     reports.  Filing bugs there will remain possible for now, but
>>     discouraged.
>>
>> 3.  Bugs in Launchpad that are still reproducible in Inkscape 0.92.4 or
>>     newer can be re-filed on Gitlab and closed on Launchpad.
>>
>> We are planning efforts to help organize the migration work and keep
>> track of progress.  More info on this will be coming soon.
>>
>> Eventually, when the necessary bugs have been migrated, bug reporting in
>> Launchpad will be shut off.
>>
>> We're enthused about this change, and hope you too will find gitlab a
>> more user friendly way to report issues, and we'd love your help
>> triaging and solving Inkscape bugs.
>>
>> Bryce
>>
>>
>> 1:  https://inkscape.org/news/2017/06/10/inkscape-moves-gitlab/
>>
>>
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Re: [Inkscape-docs] [Inkscape-devel] Issue tracking for Inkscape moves to Gitlab

2019-01-15 Thread Bryce Harrington
On Tue, Jan 15, 2019 at 10:07:19AM -0700, brynn wrote:
> If either 0.92.4 or 1.0 alpha is about to be released, can't the edits just
> say 'from now on'?   (Not really "from now on" specifically, but in effect
> it would be - here's where new bug reports go now.) Because users wouldn't
> be reporting bugs for 0.92.3 or older, after 0.92.4 is released, would they?

Not all users will know to install 0.92.4 immediately; Linux users will
tend to upgrade when their distro upgrades them, and that could be some
months out.  So we can expect many users will be on 0.92.3 even after
0.92.4 is out, and may need encouragement to re-test on the newer version.

It's questionable that the developers will have much interest in working
on 0.92.4 bug reports, but they'll certainly have little interest in
bugs only affecting 0.92.3 or older.

Bryce

> -Original Message- From: Maren Hachmann
> Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2019 9:19 AM
> To: brynn ; inkscape-de...@lists.sourceforge.net ; Inkscape-Docs
> Subject: Re: [Inkscape-docs] [Inkscape-devel] Issue tracking for Inkscape
> moves to Gitlab
> 
> Am 15.01.19 um 17:08 schrieb brynn:
> > I could try to do that.  But I need specifics.
> 
> - Thank you, Brynn.
> 
> > Is the only thing that needs to be changed is the link (and supporting
> > text around the link, if necessary)?
> 
> - No, the new policy about both bug trackers needs to be mentioned and
> explained on the 'report bugs' page, at least.
> 
> However, for that we still need a reply from Bryce about the Inkscape
> version that applies to. Wait for that before you start, please.
> 
> I can see why he said 0.92.4 and higher - because that's what is
> currently under development. I don't know what Marc's rationale is for
> only intending to do this for alpha and higher. Maybe there was some
> kind of misunderstanding in their communication earlier, dunno, just
> know that we need to know before we make any changes, and even before we
> publish the release news article...
> 
> On the other pages, probably a simple switch is sufficient, or change to
> a link to report bugs page if suitable, to have 1 central place that
> needs to be updated instead of multiple places.
> 
> > Should the link go to
> > https://gitlab.com/inkscape/inkscape/issues, or directly to open a new
> > Issue form?
> 
> - Better allow users to search for duplicates first, so not the new
> issue form.
> 
> > Of course I'll list every change for translators and send it to you :-)
> 
> - Thank you, that will be awesome.
> 
> > I'm probably not the best person to update the wiki.  I'm not very
> > familiar with it.
> 
> - If you find something that needs updating, you can let us know here, then.
> 
> Maren
> 
> > All best,
> > brynn
> > 
> > -Original Message- From: Maren Hachmann
> > Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2019 8:08 AM
> > To: inkscape-de...@lists.sourceforge.net ; Inkscape-Docs
> > Subject: Re: [Inkscape-docs] [Inkscape-devel] Issue tracking for
> > Inkscape moves to Gitlab
> > 
> > Hi,
> > 
> > could someone help web content editors by browsing the website and
> > looking for places that require updating?
> > 
> > I think it's probably FAQ, the bug report page, contribute testing, and
> > develop pages.
> > 
> > Then there must also be some Wiki pages.
> > 
> > I'm currently a bit busy with other stuff, so I'd appreciate if someone
> > gave me a list with links + screenshots or similar.
> > 
> > Or, if someone updated the pages, that would be cool - but then I'd
> > still need a list (preferably with screenshots), for being able to
> > notify translators.
> > 
> > Maren
> > 
> > Am 15.01.19 um 10:56 schrieb Bryce Harrington:
> > > Hi all,
> > > 
> > > As of this week, the Inkscape project is shifting to Gitlab for issue
> > > tracking in place of Launchpad.
> > > 
> > >   https://gitlab.com/groups/inkscape/-/issues
> > > 
> > > 
> > > We've been using Gitlab for our code hosting and other purposes for a
> > > year and a half now[1], and have found it to be reliable and
> > > convenient.  We didn't migrate Issue Tracking until now, so we could
> > > take time to make sure we had a plan:
> > > 
> > > 1.  Going forward, new bug reports should be filed only in Gitlab.
> > > 
> > > 2.  Launchpad will remain available as a historical archive of our bug
> > > reports.  Filing bugs there will remain possible for now

Re: [Inkscape-docs] [Inkscape-devel] Issue tracking for Inkscape moves to Gitlab

2019-01-15 Thread Maren Hachmann
I haven't heard back from Bryce yet, unfortunately, but Marc explained
about why he doesn't think 0.92.4 bug reports should go to the new bug
tracker here:
https://chat.inkscape.org/channel/team_devel?msg=NHquGcpEQcebFKjB3

Use 1.0alpha as a starting point for now, we can rephrase that later.

Just so we have something to link to.

Not sure where 0.92.4 issues should be reported then, though. Not
everyone will be able to do a test with 1.0alpha for their same issue,
and it is still the official release.

Maren

Am 15.01.19 um 18:07 schrieb brynn:
> If either 0.92.4 or 1.0 alpha is about to be released, can't the edits
> just say 'from now on'?   (Not really "from now on" specifically, but in
> effect it would be - here's where new bug reports go now.) Because users
> wouldn't be reporting bugs for 0.92.3 or older, after 0.92.4 is
> released, would they?
> 
> Thanks,
> brynn
> 
> -Original Message- From: Maren Hachmann
> Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2019 9:19 AM
> To: brynn ; inkscape-de...@lists.sourceforge.net ; Inkscape-Docs
> Subject: Re: [Inkscape-docs] [Inkscape-devel] Issue tracking for
> Inkscape moves to Gitlab
> 
> Am 15.01.19 um 17:08 schrieb brynn:
>> I could try to do that.  But I need specifics.
> 
> - Thank you, Brynn.
> 
>> Is the only thing that needs to be changed is the link (and supporting
>> text around the link, if necessary)?
> 
> - No, the new policy about both bug trackers needs to be mentioned and
> explained on the 'report bugs' page, at least.
> 
> However, for that we still need a reply from Bryce about the Inkscape
> version that applies to. Wait for that before you start, please.
> 
> I can see why he said 0.92.4 and higher - because that's what is
> currently under development. I don't know what Marc's rationale is for
> only intending to do this for alpha and higher. Maybe there was some
> kind of misunderstanding in their communication earlier, dunno, just
> know that we need to know before we make any changes, and even before we
> publish the release news article...
> 
> On the other pages, probably a simple switch is sufficient, or change to
> a link to report bugs page if suitable, to have 1 central place that
> needs to be updated instead of multiple places.
> 
>> Should the link go to
>> https://gitlab.com/inkscape/inkscape/issues, or directly to open a new
>> Issue form?
> 
> - Better allow users to search for duplicates first, so not the new
> issue form.
> 
>> Of course I'll list every change for translators and send it to you :-)
> 
> - Thank you, that will be awesome.
> 
>> I'm probably not the best person to update the wiki.  I'm not very
>> familiar with it.
> 
> - If you find something that needs updating, you can let us know here,
> then.
> 
> Maren
> 
>> All best,
>> brynn
>>
>> -Original Message- From: Maren Hachmann
>> Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2019 8:08 AM
>> To: inkscape-de...@lists.sourceforge.net ; Inkscape-Docs
>> Subject: Re: [Inkscape-docs] [Inkscape-devel] Issue tracking for
>> Inkscape moves to Gitlab
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> could someone help web content editors by browsing the website and
>> looking for places that require updating?
>>
>> I think it's probably FAQ, the bug report page, contribute testing, and
>> develop pages.
>>
>> Then there must also be some Wiki pages.
>>
>> I'm currently a bit busy with other stuff, so I'd appreciate if someone
>> gave me a list with links + screenshots or similar.
>>
>> Or, if someone updated the pages, that would be cool - but then I'd
>> still need a list (preferably with screenshots), for being able to
>> notify translators.
>>
>> Maren
>>
>> Am 15.01.19 um 10:56 schrieb Bryce Harrington:
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> As of this week, the Inkscape project is shifting to Gitlab for issue
>>> tracking in place of Launchpad.
>>>
>>>   https://gitlab.com/groups/inkscape/-/issues
>>>
>>>
>>> We've been using Gitlab for our code hosting and other purposes for a
>>> year and a half now[1], and have found it to be reliable and
>>> convenient.  We didn't migrate Issue Tracking until now, so we could
>>> take time to make sure we had a plan:
>>>
>>> 1.  Going forward, new bug reports should be filed only in Gitlab.
>>>
>>> 2.  Launchpad will remain available as a historical archive of our bug
>>>     reports.  Filing bugs there will remain possible for now, but
>>>     dis

Re: [Inkscape-docs] [Inkscape-devel] Issue tracking for Inkscape moves to Gitlab

2019-01-15 Thread brynn
If either 0.92.4 or 1.0 alpha is about to be released, can't the edits just say 
'from now on'?   (Not really "from now on" specifically, but in effect it would 
be - here's where new bug reports go now.) Because users wouldn't be reporting 
bugs for 0.92.3 or older, after 0.92.4 is released, would they?


Thanks,
brynn

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Am 15.01.19 um 17:08 schrieb brynn:

I could try to do that.  But I need specifics.


- Thank you, Brynn.


Is the only thing that needs to be changed is the link (and supporting
text around the link, if necessary)?


- No, the new policy about both bug trackers needs to be mentioned and
explained on the 'report bugs' page, at least.

However, for that we still need a reply from Bryce about the Inkscape
version that applies to. Wait for that before you start, please.

I can see why he said 0.92.4 and higher - because that's what is
currently under development. I don't know what Marc's rationale is for
only intending to do this for alpha and higher. Maybe there was some
kind of misunderstanding in their communication earlier, dunno, just
know that we need to know before we make any changes, and even before we
publish the release news article...

On the other pages, probably a simple switch is sufficient, or change to
a link to report bugs page if suitable, to have 1 central place that
needs to be updated instead of multiple places.


Should the link go to
https://gitlab.com/inkscape/inkscape/issues, or directly to open a new
Issue form?


- Better allow users to search for duplicates first, so not the new
issue form.


Of course I'll list every change for translators and send it to you :-)


- Thank you, that will be awesome.


I'm probably not the best person to update the wiki.  I'm not very
familiar with it.


- If you find something that needs updating, you can let us know here, then.

Maren


All best,
brynn

-Original Message- From: Maren Hachmann
Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2019 8:08 AM
To: inkscape-de...@lists.sourceforge.net ; Inkscape-Docs
Subject: Re: [Inkscape-docs] [Inkscape-devel] Issue tracking for
Inkscape moves to Gitlab

Hi,

could someone help web content editors by browsing the website and
looking for places that require updating?

I think it's probably FAQ, the bug report page, contribute testing, and
develop pages.

Then there must also be some Wiki pages.

I'm currently a bit busy with other stuff, so I'd appreciate if someone
gave me a list with links + screenshots or similar.

Or, if someone updated the pages, that would be cool - but then I'd
still need a list (preferably with screenshots), for being able to
notify translators.

Maren

Am 15.01.19 um 10:56 schrieb Bryce Harrington:

Hi all,

As of this week, the Inkscape project is shifting to Gitlab for issue
tracking in place of Launchpad.

  https://gitlab.com/groups/inkscape/-/issues


We've been using Gitlab for our code hosting and other purposes for a
year and a half now[1], and have found it to be reliable and
convenient.  We didn't migrate Issue Tracking until now, so we could
take time to make sure we had a plan:

1.  Going forward, new bug reports should be filed only in Gitlab.

2.  Launchpad will remain available as a historical archive of our bug
reports.  Filing bugs there will remain possible for now, but
discouraged.

3.  Bugs in Launchpad that are still reproducible in Inkscape 0.92.4 or
newer can be re-filed on Gitlab and closed on Launchpad.

We are planning efforts to help organize the migration work and keep
track of progress.  More info on this will be coming soon.

Eventually, when the necessary bugs have been migrated, bug reporting in
Launchpad will be shut off.

We're enthused about this change, and hope you too will find gitlab a
more user friendly way to report issues, and we'd love your help
triaging and solving Inkscape bugs.

Bryce


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Re: [Inkscape-docs] [Inkscape-devel] Issue tracking for Inkscape moves to Gitlab

2019-01-15 Thread Maren Hachmann
Am 15.01.19 um 17:08 schrieb brynn:
> I could try to do that.  But I need specifics.

- Thank you, Brynn.

> Is the only thing that needs to be changed is the link (and supporting
> text around the link, if necessary)?  

- No, the new policy about both bug trackers needs to be mentioned and
explained on the 'report bugs' page, at least.

However, for that we still need a reply from Bryce about the Inkscape
version that applies to. Wait for that before you start, please.

I can see why he said 0.92.4 and higher - because that's what is
currently under development. I don't know what Marc's rationale is for
only intending to do this for alpha and higher. Maybe there was some
kind of misunderstanding in their communication earlier, dunno, just
know that we need to know before we make any changes, and even before we
publish the release news article...

On the other pages, probably a simple switch is sufficient, or change to
a link to report bugs page if suitable, to have 1 central place that
needs to be updated instead of multiple places.

> Should the link go to
> https://gitlab.com/inkscape/inkscape/issues, or directly to open a new
> Issue form?

- Better allow users to search for duplicates first, so not the new
issue form.

> Of course I'll list every change for translators and send it to you :-)

- Thank you, that will be awesome.

> I'm probably not the best person to update the wiki.  I'm not very
> familiar with it.

- If you find something that needs updating, you can let us know here, then.

Maren

> All best,
> brynn
> 
> -Original Message- From: Maren Hachmann
> Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2019 8:08 AM
> To: inkscape-de...@lists.sourceforge.net ; Inkscape-Docs
> Subject: Re: [Inkscape-docs] [Inkscape-devel] Issue tracking for
> Inkscape moves to Gitlab
> 
> Hi,
> 
> could someone help web content editors by browsing the website and
> looking for places that require updating?
> 
> I think it's probably FAQ, the bug report page, contribute testing, and
> develop pages.
> 
> Then there must also be some Wiki pages.
> 
> I'm currently a bit busy with other stuff, so I'd appreciate if someone
> gave me a list with links + screenshots or similar.
> 
> Or, if someone updated the pages, that would be cool - but then I'd
> still need a list (preferably with screenshots), for being able to
> notify translators.
> 
> Maren
> 
> Am 15.01.19 um 10:56 schrieb Bryce Harrington:
>> Hi all,
>>
>> As of this week, the Inkscape project is shifting to Gitlab for issue
>> tracking in place of Launchpad.
>>
>>   https://gitlab.com/groups/inkscape/-/issues
>>
>>
>> We've been using Gitlab for our code hosting and other purposes for a
>> year and a half now[1], and have found it to be reliable and
>> convenient.  We didn't migrate Issue Tracking until now, so we could
>> take time to make sure we had a plan:
>>
>> 1.  Going forward, new bug reports should be filed only in Gitlab.
>>
>> 2.  Launchpad will remain available as a historical archive of our bug
>>     reports.  Filing bugs there will remain possible for now, but
>>     discouraged.
>>
>> 3.  Bugs in Launchpad that are still reproducible in Inkscape 0.92.4 or
>>     newer can be re-filed on Gitlab and closed on Launchpad.
>>
>> We are planning efforts to help organize the migration work and keep
>> track of progress.  More info on this will be coming soon.
>>
>> Eventually, when the necessary bugs have been migrated, bug reporting in
>> Launchpad will be shut off.
>>
>> We're enthused about this change, and hope you too will find gitlab a
>> more user friendly way to report issues, and we'd love your help
>> triaging and solving Inkscape bugs.
>>
>> Bryce
>>
>>
>> 1:  https://inkscape.org/news/2017/06/10/inkscape-moves-gitlab/
>>
>>
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Re: [Inkscape-docs] [Inkscape-devel] Issue tracking for Inkscape moves to Gitlab

2019-01-15 Thread brynn

I could try to do that.  But I need specifics.

Is the only thing that needs to be changed is the link (and supporting text 
around the link, if necessary)?  Should the link go to 
https://gitlab.com/inkscape/inkscape/issues, or directly to open a new Issue 
form?


Of course I'll list every change for translators and send it to you :-)

I'm probably not the best person to update the wiki.  I'm not very familiar with 
it.


All best,
brynn

-Original Message- 
From: Maren Hachmann

Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2019 8:08 AM
To: inkscape-de...@lists.sourceforge.net ; Inkscape-Docs
Subject: Re: [Inkscape-docs] [Inkscape-devel] Issue tracking for Inkscape moves 
to Gitlab


Hi,

could someone help web content editors by browsing the website and
looking for places that require updating?

I think it's probably FAQ, the bug report page, contribute testing, and
develop pages.

Then there must also be some Wiki pages.

I'm currently a bit busy with other stuff, so I'd appreciate if someone
gave me a list with links + screenshots or similar.

Or, if someone updated the pages, that would be cool - but then I'd
still need a list (preferably with screenshots), for being able to
notify translators.

Maren

Am 15.01.19 um 10:56 schrieb Bryce Harrington:

Hi all,

As of this week, the Inkscape project is shifting to Gitlab for issue
tracking in place of Launchpad.

  https://gitlab.com/groups/inkscape/-/issues


We've been using Gitlab for our code hosting and other purposes for a
year and a half now[1], and have found it to be reliable and
convenient.  We didn't migrate Issue Tracking until now, so we could
take time to make sure we had a plan:

1.  Going forward, new bug reports should be filed only in Gitlab.

2.  Launchpad will remain available as a historical archive of our bug
reports.  Filing bugs there will remain possible for now, but
discouraged.

3.  Bugs in Launchpad that are still reproducible in Inkscape 0.92.4 or
newer can be re-filed on Gitlab and closed on Launchpad.

We are planning efforts to help organize the migration work and keep
track of progress.  More info on this will be coming soon.

Eventually, when the necessary bugs have been migrated, bug reporting in
Launchpad will be shut off.

We're enthused about this change, and hope you too will find gitlab a
more user friendly way to report issues, and we'd love your help
triaging and solving Inkscape bugs.

Bryce


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Re: [Inkscape-docs] [Inkscape-devel] Issue tracking for Inkscape moves to Gitlab

2019-01-15 Thread Maren Hachmann
Hi,

could someone help web content editors by browsing the website and
looking for places that require updating?

I think it's probably FAQ, the bug report page, contribute testing, and
 develop pages.

Then there must also be some Wiki pages.

I'm currently a bit busy with other stuff, so I'd appreciate if someone
gave me a list with links + screenshots or similar.

Or, if someone updated the pages, that would be cool - but then I'd
still need a list (preferably with screenshots), for being able to
notify translators.

 Maren

Am 15.01.19 um 10:56 schrieb Bryce Harrington:
> Hi all,
> 
> As of this week, the Inkscape project is shifting to Gitlab for issue
> tracking in place of Launchpad.
> 
>   https://gitlab.com/groups/inkscape/-/issues
> 
> 
> We've been using Gitlab for our code hosting and other purposes for a
> year and a half now[1], and have found it to be reliable and
> convenient.  We didn't migrate Issue Tracking until now, so we could
> take time to make sure we had a plan:
> 
> 1.  Going forward, new bug reports should be filed only in Gitlab.
> 
> 2.  Launchpad will remain available as a historical archive of our bug
> reports.  Filing bugs there will remain possible for now, but
> discouraged.
> 
> 3.  Bugs in Launchpad that are still reproducible in Inkscape 0.92.4 or
> newer can be re-filed on Gitlab and closed on Launchpad.
> 
> We are planning efforts to help organize the migration work and keep
> track of progress.  More info on this will be coming soon.
> 
> Eventually, when the necessary bugs have been migrated, bug reporting in
> Launchpad will be shut off.
> 
> We're enthused about this change, and hope you too will find gitlab a
> more user friendly way to report issues, and we'd love your help
> triaging and solving Inkscape bugs.
> 
> Bryce
> 
> 
> 1:  https://inkscape.org/news/2017/06/10/inkscape-moves-gitlab/
> 
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