Re: [PHP-DEV] [Discussion] Expand deprecation notice scope for partially supported callables

2022-05-12 Thread Juliette Reinders Folmer 


On 12-5-2022 23:30, Claude Pache wrote:



Le 12 mai 2022 à 23:11, Larry Garfield  a écrit :

For the `callable` type declaration, I'm not opposed but is it redundant with 
the existing deprecation?  When would you pass a callable to something and not 
end up calling it anyway, which would trigger the existing deprecation?  
(Meaning in practice you'd always get 2 deprecations, which are not necessarily 
better than one.)

Although such a callable is probably intended to be called at some point, it is 
not necessarily called immediately, and it may be easier to track the source of 
it when you trigger the deprecation earlier. Example:

```php
public function registerErrorHandler(callable $onerror) {
 $this->onError[] = $onerror;
}
```

(Of course, this argument also holds for `is_callable()`.)

—Claude


Exactly as Claude says and to quote the RFC:

> While it will be common to use the partially supported callable in a 
callback function call within the function with the type declaration, 
this may not always be the case, especially in frameworks where 
callbacks can be registered to be executed later in a limited set of 
circumstances and those circumstances may not be met by default.


> Without a deprecation notice, those “/limited circumstances 
callbacks/” may not be discovered as needing updating in time for PHP 9.0.


Ref: 
https://wiki.php.net/rfc/partially-supported-callables-expand-deprecation-notices#adding_a_deprecation_notice_for_callable


Smile,
Juliette

[PHP-DEV] PHP 8.1.6 Released

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Re: [PHP-DEV] [Discussion] Expand deprecation notice scope for partially supported callables

2022-05-12 Thread Claude Pache 


> Le 12 mai 2022 à 23:11, Larry Garfield  a écrit :
> 
> For the `callable` type declaration, I'm not opposed but is it redundant with 
> the existing deprecation?  When would you pass a callable to something and 
> not end up calling it anyway, which would trigger the existing deprecation?  
> (Meaning in practice you'd always get 2 deprecations, which are not 
> necessarily better than one.)


Although such a callable is probably intended to be called at some point, it is 
not necessarily called immediately, and it may be easier to track the source of 
it when you trigger the deprecation earlier. Example:

```php
public function registerErrorHandler(callable $onerror) {
$this->onError[] = $onerror;
}
```

(Of course, this argument also holds for `is_callable()`.)

—Claude

Re: [PHP-DEV] [Discussion] Expand deprecation notice scope for partially supported callables

2022-05-12 Thread Larry Garfield 
On Thu, May 12, 2022, at 11:54 AM, Juliette Reinders Folmer wrote:
> After the prior discussion about the same topic: 
> https://externals.io/message/117342, I have created an RFC to expand the 
> scope of the deprecation notices being thrown for the deprecated 
> partially supported callables to include is_callable() and the callable 
> type in PHP 8.2.
>
> With this email I'm opening the two week discussion period for this RFC. 
> All points raised in the prior discussion are already included in the RFC.
>
> https://wiki.php.net/rfc/partially-supported-callables-expand-deprecation-notices
>
> I look forward to your feedback.
>
> Smile,
> Juliette

I didn't follow the earlier discussion in much detail, but the is_callable() 
deprecation seems fine to me.

For the `callable` type declaration, I'm not opposed but is it redundant with 
the existing deprecation?  When would you pass a callable to something and not 
end up calling it anyway, which would trigger the existing deprecation?  
(Meaning in practice you'd always get 2 deprecations, which are not necessarily 
better than one.)

--Larry Garfield

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Re: [PHP-DEV] The future of objects and operators

2022-05-12 Thread Jordan LeDoux 
On Mon, May 9, 2022 at 2:25 PM Larry Garfield 
wrote:

>
> Also, not proposing level 1 on the grounds that it would reduce the
> argument for level 2/3 in the future would effectively be holding level 1
> functionality "hostage" for the more advanced versions, which... would
> probably not work out well. :-)  (Even if that's not your intent, it would
> come off that way.)
>
>
>
Yes, I also realize that, which is another reason I'm thinking that doing
comparison-only overloads first might be the better way forward.

[PHP-DEV] [Discussion] Expand deprecation notice scope for partially supported callables

2022-05-12 Thread Juliette Reinders Folmer 
After the prior discussion about the same topic: 
https://externals.io/message/117342, I have created an RFC to expand the 
scope of the deprecation notices being thrown for the deprecated 
partially supported callables to include is_callable() and the callable 
type in PHP 8.2.


With this email I'm opening the two week discussion period for this RFC. 
All points raised in the prior discussion are already included in the RFC.


https://wiki.php.net/rfc/partially-supported-callables-expand-deprecation-notices

I look forward to your feedback.

Smile,
Juliette

[PHP-DEV] PHP 8.0.19 Released

2022-05-12 Thread Gabriel Caruso 
The PHP development team announces the immediate availability of PHP
8.0.19. This is a bugfix release.

All PHP 8.0 users are encouraged to upgrade to this version.

For source downloads of PHP 8.0.X please visit our downloads page.
Windows binaries can be found on the PHP for Windows site.
The list of changes is recorded in the ChangeLog.

Release Announcement: 
Downloads:
Windows downloads:
Changelog:
Release Manifest: <
https://gist.github.com/carusogabriel/c688799936429ec15061bb2583f57728>

Many thanks to all the contributors and supporters!

Gabriel Caruso & Sara Golemon

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