Re: [PHP-DEV] Current problems with PHP5.3 testing
Pierre Joye wrote: If it does not please can you let us know where it is failing? THAT is all we are asking to be included in the windows builds, and it complies and works fine in Linux with existing Linux clients ... I said "clients" not the extension. That was my point ... If the extension is compiling then why is it not included in PHP5.3? Sorry, not going to begin this discussion again, please check the archives (internals and firebird-php). Please do not use whole words/sentences uppercased, I'm old but I can read normal texts. There is absolutely no reason to exclude php_interbase.dll from the current builds of windows PHP. That is entirely your decision, and one that can not be justified! The client that has been included with PHP up until now has always been one from an Interbase build, and if any client is included then it has to be that since the extension is still called php_interbase ... Firebird clients have - up until now - been used where we need to connect to Firebird, and in PHP5.2.x php_interbase.dll + the correct client for version of Firebird you wish to target works. Some people are still running FB1.5 and so will not want a later client on the system, so all that is needed is a copy of the extension as currently supplied with PHP5.2.x . If there is now a reason some legitimate reason to split the extension to provide a php_firebird and include a related Firebird client with PHP please can we have that discussion, but at present there is nothing we are asking for that requires that split? -- Lester Caine - G8HFL - Contact - http://lsces.co.uk/wiki/?page=contact L.S.Caine Electronic Services - http://lsces.co.uk EnquirySolve - http://enquirysolve.com/ Model Engineers Digital Workshop - http://medw.co.uk// Firebird - http://www.firebirdsql.org/index.php -- PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP-DEV] Current problems with PHP5.3 testing
hi, On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 8:40 AM, Lester Caine wrote: > Pierre Joye wrote: >> >> On Sat, May 23, 2009 at 8:51 AM, Lester Caine wrote: >> php_interbase gets tested for every build using a number of test suites. Currently as far as I am aware all the previous regression bugs have now been fixed, and the numeric bug has also been cleared so our only problem is why is it not being compiled for PHP5.3? PHP5.2.9 is fine as well as the snapshot for 5.2.10 >>> >>> Are we going to get an answer on this? >> >> You already got answers about that, many times. >> >>> php_interbase is running fine on Linux builds of 5.3, so what is the >>> holdup >>> on it being included in the windows builds? >> >> My last attempts to build the clients failed. Either with VC6 or with >> VC9 (which seems to do not be supported). > > DOES PHP_INTERBASE.DLL COMPILE !!! > If it does not please can you let us know where it is failing? > THAT is all we are asking to be included in the windows builds, and it > complies and works fine in Linux with existing Linux clients ... I said "clients" not the extension. >>> ( And an ability to get back to testing PHP6 on windows would also be >>> nice? >>> The current copy I have here is a couple of years old ) >> >> php6 snaps work just fine, "only" not firebird for the reasons stated >> earlier. > > DITTO ... > The client will always be used from an official Firebird build, so should > not be included in PHP! Sorry, not going to begin this discussion again, please check the archives (internals and firebird-php). Please do not use whole words/sentences uppercased, I'm old but I can read normal texts. Cheers, -- Pierre http://blog.thepimp.net | http://www.libgd.org -- PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP-DEV] Current problems with PHP5.3 testing
Pierre Joye wrote: On Sat, May 23, 2009 at 8:51 AM, Lester Caine wrote: php_interbase gets tested for every build using a number of test suites. Currently as far as I am aware all the previous regression bugs have now been fixed, and the numeric bug has also been cleared so our only problem is why is it not being compiled for PHP5.3? PHP5.2.9 is fine as well as the snapshot for 5.2.10 Are we going to get an answer on this? You already got answers about that, many times. php_interbase is running fine on Linux builds of 5.3, so what is the holdup on it being included in the windows builds? My last attempts to build the clients failed. Either with VC6 or with VC9 (which seems to do not be supported). DOES PHP_INTERBASE.DLL COMPILE !!! If it does not please can you let us know where it is failing? THAT is all we are asking to be included in the windows builds, and it complies and works fine in Linux with existing Linux clients ... ( And an ability to get back to testing PHP6 on windows would also be nice? The current copy I have here is a couple of years old ) php6 snaps work just fine, "only" not firebird for the reasons stated earlier. DITTO ... The client will always be used from an official Firebird build, so should not be included in PHP! -- Lester Caine - G8HFL - Contact - http://lsces.co.uk/wiki/?page=contact L.S.Caine Electronic Services - http://lsces.co.uk EnquirySolve - http://enquirysolve.com/ Model Engineers Digital Workshop - http://medw.co.uk// Firebird - http://www.firebirdsql.org/index.php -- PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP-DEV] Current problems with PHP5.3 testing
On Sat, May 23, 2009 at 8:51 AM, Lester Caine wrote: >> php_interbase gets tested for every build using a number of test suites. >> Currently as far as I am aware all the previous regression bugs have now >> been fixed, and the numeric bug has also been cleared so our only >> problem is why is it not being compiled for PHP5.3? PHP5.2.9 is fine as >> well as the snapshot for 5.2.10 > > Are we going to get an answer on this? You already got answers about that, many times. > php_interbase is running fine on Linux builds of 5.3, so what is the holdup > on it being included in the windows builds? My last attempts to build the clients failed. Either with VC6 or with VC9 (which seems to do not be supported). > ( And an ability to get back to testing PHP6 on windows would also be nice? > The current copy I have here is a couple of years old ) php6 snaps work just fine, "only" not firebird for the reasons stated earlier. Cheers, -- Pierre http://blog.thepimp.net | http://www.libgd.org -- PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP-DEV] Current problems with PHP5.3 testing
Lester Caine wrote: The fact is that we have only a handful of people who do any sort of Windows work while we have hundreds of volunteers for other parts of the project. Unless we get more volunteers interesting in working on Windows-related stuff, you are always going to see a gap between Windows and the rest of the world. We have many people testing Windows, it is much better now than for a year or so. But we do not even have a handful of people taking care of the firebird extension itself (testing or maintaining it). Testing pre-built stuff, sure. But building extensions and making them work on Windows is still quite rare. Not that I am criticizing, I don't do it either. I have absolutely zero interest in that platform. I was referring to testing&maintaining the extension itself, even on only one platform :) php_interbase gets tested for every build using a number of test suites. Currently as far as I am aware all the previous regression bugs have now been fixed, and the numeric bug has also been cleared so our only problem is why is it not being compiled for PHP5.3? PHP5.2.9 is fine as well as the snapshot for 5.2.10 Are we going to get an answer on this? php_interbase is running fine on Linux builds of 5.3, so what is the holdup on it being included in the windows builds? You ASK us to test, but until we are able to actually use it then it's a little bit difficult ... We have HAD the discussion on BUILDING PHP on Windows, and the current build environment is something that many of us do not have the capability of copying, especially given the latest changes to require additional M$ versions, but we have been told in the past that it is simply TESTING that is required! Personally I only use Apache so I have no ability to test IIS installs and just need to maintain a capability between Windows and Linux servers. ( And an ability to get back to testing PHP6 on windows would also be nice? The current copy I have here is a couple of years old ) -- Lester Caine - G8HFL - Contact - http://lsces.co.uk/wiki/?page=contact L.S.Caine Electronic Services - http://lsces.co.uk EnquirySolve - http://enquirysolve.com/ Model Engineers Digital Workshop - http://medw.co.uk// Firebird - http://www.firebirdsql.org/index.php -- PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP-DEV] Current problems with PHP5.3 testing
( return address !!! There is only a couple of sites now that I have this problem ) Pierre Joye wrote: On Sat, May 16, 2009 at 11:31 AM, Rasmus Lerdorf wrote: Pierre Joye wrote: On Sat, May 16, 2009 at 11:00 AM, Rasmus Lerdorf wrote: The fact is that we have only a handful of people who do any sort of Windows work while we have hundreds of volunteers for other parts of the project. Unless we get more volunteers interesting in working on Windows-related stuff, you are always going to see a gap between Windows and the rest of the world. We have many people testing Windows, it is much better now than for a year or so. But we do not even have a handful of people taking care of the firebird extension itself (testing or maintaining it). Testing pre-built stuff, sure. But building extensions and making them work on Windows is still quite rare. Not that I am criticizing, I don't do it either. I have absolutely zero interest in that platform. I was referring to testing&maintaining the extension itself, even on only one platform :) php_interbase gets tested for every build using a number of test suites. Currently as far as I am aware all the previous regression bugs have now been fixed, and the numeric bug has also been cleared so our only problem is why is it not being compiled for PHP5.3? PHP5.2.9 is fine as well as the snapshot for 5.2.10 -- Lester Caine - G8HFL - Contact - http://lsces.co.uk/wiki/?page=contact L.S.Caine Electronic Services - http://lsces.co.uk EnquirySolve - http://enquirysolve.com/ Model Engineers Digital Workshop - http://medw.co.uk// Firebird - http://www.firebirdsql.org/index.php -- PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP-DEV] Current problems with PHP5.3 testing
On Sat, May 16, 2009 at 11:31 AM, Rasmus Lerdorf wrote: > Pierre Joye wrote: >> On Sat, May 16, 2009 at 11:00 AM, Rasmus Lerdorf wrote: >> >>> The fact is that we have only a handful of people who do any sort of >>> Windows work while we have hundreds of volunteers for other parts of the >>> project. Unless we get more volunteers interesting in working on >>> Windows-related stuff, you are always going to see a gap between Windows >>> and the rest of the world. >> >> We have many people testing Windows, it is much better now than for a >> year or so. But we do not even have a handful of people taking care of >> the firebird extension itself (testing or maintaining it). > > Testing pre-built stuff, sure. But building extensions and making them > work on Windows is still quite rare. Not that I am criticizing, I don't > do it either. I have absolutely zero interest in that platform. I was referring to testing&maintaining the extension itself, even on only one platform :) Cheers, -- Pierre http://blog.thepimp.net | http://www.libgd.org -- PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP-DEV] Current problems with PHP5.3 testing
Pierre Joye wrote: > On Sat, May 16, 2009 at 11:00 AM, Rasmus Lerdorf wrote: > >> The fact is that we have only a handful of people who do any sort of >> Windows work while we have hundreds of volunteers for other parts of the >> project. Unless we get more volunteers interesting in working on >> Windows-related stuff, you are always going to see a gap between Windows >> and the rest of the world. > > We have many people testing Windows, it is much better now than for a > year or so. But we do not even have a handful of people taking care of > the firebird extension itself (testing or maintaining it). Testing pre-built stuff, sure. But building extensions and making them work on Windows is still quite rare. Not that I am criticizing, I don't do it either. I have absolutely zero interest in that platform. -Rasmus -- PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP-DEV] Current problems with PHP5.3 testing
On Sat, May 16, 2009 at 11:00 AM, Rasmus Lerdorf wrote: > The fact is that we have only a handful of people who do any sort of > Windows work while we have hundreds of volunteers for other parts of the > project. Unless we get more volunteers interesting in working on > Windows-related stuff, you are always going to see a gap between Windows > and the rest of the world. We have many people testing Windows, it is much better now than for a year or so. But we do not even have a handful of people taking care of the firebird extension itself (testing or maintaining it). Cheers, -- Pierre http://blog.thepimp.net | http://www.libgd.org -- PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP-DEV] Current problems with PHP5.3 testing
Lester Caine wrote: > Lester Caine wrote: >> I know I will be directed to the 'windows' list, but I think it is >> important that PHP is still available cross platform ... I run both >> Linux and Windows and both should run the same? >> >> Since many of my target systems are still Windows based, primary >> testing of new stuff is done on that, but currently I'm unable to even >> test a windows build due to the lack of php_interbase.dll. >> >> Other packages are also missing from the ext directory most of which I >> think I've identified as moved to PECL, but - while I do not use pdo - >> where has php_pdo.dll gone. If it's built into the windows binary then >> this needs to be pointed out? >> >> On one hand I'm being told that I don't need to be able to build >> windows binaries as these are provided - and I can't anyway as I am >> still running a Borland development enviroment for windows - but if >> the core facilities are not going to match the Linux builds then there >> is a problem ... >> >> LAST time I was able to run 5.3 the bitweaver code base produced a lot >> of warnings, while currently it runs clean with display_erros=on, but >> until I can actually run it again I can't report any problems, and so >> I will have to stay with the 5.2 branch. > > I've just been working through some of the other add-ons and a couple > more questions poped up. > What is happening with PECL in windows for 5.3? > > Anybody know if there is a 5.3 build of php_imagick or magickwand ? This > used to be available via PECL, but seems to have evaporated at some point? > > As yet there is no 5.3 build for eAccelerator ... but a build of that > has been requested. eAccelerator is not a pecl project. It is completely unrelated to *.php.net. The fact is that we have only a handful of people who do any sort of Windows work while we have hundreds of volunteers for other parts of the project. Unless we get more volunteers interesting in working on Windows-related stuff, you are always going to see a gap between Windows and the rest of the world. -Rasmus -- PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP-DEV] Current problems with PHP5.3 testing
Lester Caine wrote: I know I will be directed to the 'windows' list, but I think it is important that PHP is still available cross platform ... I run both Linux and Windows and both should run the same? Since many of my target systems are still Windows based, primary testing of new stuff is done on that, but currently I'm unable to even test a windows build due to the lack of php_interbase.dll. Other packages are also missing from the ext directory most of which I think I've identified as moved to PECL, but - while I do not use pdo - where has php_pdo.dll gone. If it's built into the windows binary then this needs to be pointed out? On one hand I'm being told that I don't need to be able to build windows binaries as these are provided - and I can't anyway as I am still running a Borland development enviroment for windows - but if the core facilities are not going to match the Linux builds then there is a problem ... LAST time I was able to run 5.3 the bitweaver code base produced a lot of warnings, while currently it runs clean with display_erros=on, but until I can actually run it again I can't report any problems, and so I will have to stay with the 5.2 branch. I've just been working through some of the other add-ons and a couple more questions poped up. What is happening with PECL in windows for 5.3? Anybody know if there is a 5.3 build of php_imagick or magickwand ? This used to be available via PECL, but seems to have evaporated at some point? As yet there is no 5.3 build for eAccelerator ... but a build of that has been requested. -- Lester Caine - G8HFL - Contact - http://lsces.co.uk/wiki/?page=contact L.S.Caine Electronic Services - http://lsces.co.uk EnquirySolve - http://enquirysolve.com/ Model Engineers Digital Workshop - http://medw.co.uk// Firebird - http://www.firebirdsql.org/index.php -- PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
