Re: [ITCENTER] ada yang punya tutor joomla bahasa indonesia g? tolong ya?
Beli bukunya aja Rp. 68.000 Dunianya Maya, Untungnya Nyata by Jasakom. Asi bgt kok salam, Izwar On Sun, 2008-12-07 at 07:43 -0800, Utey Wingko wrote: coba kamu join kesini http://www.id-joomla.com/ cara kerja dan komunitasnya lengkap ada di link diatas saya salah satu penggunanya hehehe.. http://www.janganbingung.com (asli joomla free minded :) SaLam, U-t-3-Y www.janganbingung.com From: atanasius utama [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ITCENTER@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, November 28, 2008 2:41:32 PM Subject: [ITCENTER] ada yang punya tutor joomla bahasa indonesia g? tolong ya? saya pengen tau tentang joomla katanya buat situs bisa iya g? joomla itu sebernernya gimana kerjanya? [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] -- www.itcenter.or.id - Komunitas Teknologi Informasi Indonesia Gabung, Keluar, Mode Kirim : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ITCENTER/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ITCENTER/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[ITCENTER] Cara Kerja SMSGatway Server
Dear IT-ers, Apa saja yang diperlukan untuk membangun sms gatway yang fungsinya antara lain untuk; 1. SMS 2. Push Email Bagaimana untuk system biayanya, apa menggunakan paket bulanan ?misal saya kirim sms email ke 5 orang, gmana hitungan biayanya ? Cheers, Izwar [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] -- www.itcenter.or.id - Komunitas Teknologi Informasi Indonesia Gabung, Keluar, Mode Kirim : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ITCENTER/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ITCENTER/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[ITCENTER] Driver Modem Aspire 4720Z For Fedora 8
Dear IT-ers, Bagaimana install modem di Aspire 4720Z untuk Fedora 8, mohon link tuk driver nya dan cara install nya. Thx Izwar [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] -- www.itcenter.or.id - Komunitas Teknologi Informasi Indonesia Gabung, Keluar, Mode Kirim : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ITCENTER/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ITCENTER/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [ITCENTER] Beli switch, cable dan peralatan networking di mana ya
Kalau mau yang original semuanya mesti CAT 6, baik itu kabel, Patch Panel, Patch Cord, dan Modular Jack. Serta instalasinya juga mesti yang sudah di sertifikasi oleh merk tertentu baik itu device network maupun engineer/installernya. Bapak bisa hubungi P. Zulkifli di PT. Kreasicipta dengan nomor tilp. 02142888014 Salam Izwar ( YM:izwr_bnz ) On Thu, 2007-09-13 at 09:48 +0700, Faisal wrote: Mau setup kantor baru so mau beli peralatan networking, tentunya yang asli lho dan bisa jangka panjang. Saya lagi nyari : - Kabel CAT6 (solid maupun stranded) , merknya belden atau AMP (yang asli pasti) - 2 switch (layer 2) 48 port yang sudah support gigabit (10/100/1000) : maunya sih linksys atau alliend telesyn. Kalau yang sudah layer 3 (routing) jg boleh. Btw maunya cisco tapi kyknya kemahalan. - Patch panel (96 port), yang cocok untuk CAT6 apa ya? masih buta neh speksnya. Merknya samakan aja belden atau AMP - Outlet network yang support CAT6 (belden atau AMP) - Pin untuk CAT6 (btw pin untuk cat 5e masih bisa masuk gak ya?). merknya belden atau AMP - Crimping tools untuk CAT6 (ada gak ya?) - tester networking yang udah support untuk CAT6 Nah ada yang bisa recomend dimana saya bisa beli peralatan networking di atas. Btw minta pendapat juga apakah ada special teknik untuk cabling di CAT6 ini. Misal kalau dilangit-lagit pake CAT6, sedangkan dari outlet ke PC pake CAT5e (spy gampang crimping)..apakah bisa dan apakah akan mempengaruhi performance jika ada combinasi CAT5e dan CAT6?) Trims Faisal [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Izwar Barnoza Network Administrator [EMAIL PROTECTED] SPEEDMARK INDONESIA Puri Sentra Niaga Blok A20-21 Jatiwaringin, Kalimalang Jakarta Timur 13620 - INDONESIA Tel. +62 21 861 0805, 860 8738 (hunting) Fax. +62 21 861 1260 www.speedmark.co.id [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] -- www.itcenter.or.id - Komunitas Teknologi Informasi Indonesia Gabung, Keluar, Mode Kirim : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ITCENTER/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ITCENTER/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [ITCENTER] pembunuh speedy sudah tiba :P
Wah...gmana dengan Pelayanan servicenya bila ada gangguan kalau menggunakan FirstMedia, ? Karena bila dibandingkan dengan speedy sulit untuk bisa mendapatkan kejelasan dari Customer Servicenya, yang selalu mendapatkan jawaban Silahkan Menunggu On Mon, 2007-09-03 at 18:23 +0700, bAKT wrote: adsl dimana dulu, kalo di eropa adsl 2000 mbps ya masih kelas teri . . :P kalo disini memang kabel telkomnya yg belum optimal. cuma kalo make kabel ya gitu . . ada kodok net ngenet di situ aje . . :P memangnya hari ini sudah pasang fastnet? berap harga modemnya? Ryku wrote: yup lewat kabeltv.. emang sangat jauh lebih cpat dari speedy dan jauh lebih murah, gw sekarang pake kabeltv internet digital one yang sebulan bayar Rp 350rb + langganan tv kabel. sekarang migrasi ke first media yang cuma 99rb/bulan unlimited + kenceng lg koneksinya.. Izwar Barnoza Network Administrator [EMAIL PROTECTED] SPEEDMARK INDONESIA Puri Sentra Niaga Blok A20-21 Jatiwaringin, Kalimalang Jakarta Timur 13620 - INDONESIA Tel. +62 21 861 0805, 860 8738 (hunting) Fax. +62 21 861 1260 www.speedmark.co.id [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] -- www.itcenter.or.id - Komunitas Teknologi Informasi Indonesia Gabung, Keluar, Mode Kirim : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ITCENTER/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ITCENTER/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[ITCENTER] Ubuntu n Fedora instal tdk bisa graphic mode
Saya install Ubuntu 7.04 dan Fedora di M/B Asus P5V800MX, untuk text mode ga masalah tetapi klu graphic mode tdk pernah berhasil/lambat sekali. Kalau saya lihat setingan di Biosnya untuk sharing VGA 64 MB dan tidak bisa ditambah. Sepertinya ada ketidakcocokan dengan VGA on Boardnya. Mohon bantuan Linuxer bagaimana caranya untuk bisa graphic mode karena ada 5 PC yang model M/B nya sama. Thx ya untuk bantuannya [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] -- www.itcenter.or.id - Komunitas Teknologi Informasi Indonesia Gabung, Keluar, Mode Kirim : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ## Jobs: itcenter.or.id/jobs ## Bursa: itcenter.or.id/bursa ## ## Jaket ITCENTER tersedia di http://shop.itcenter.or.id Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ITCENTER/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ITCENTER/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[ITCENTER] Balikin data yg sdh di format
IT-ers, Gmana ya caranya balikin data yang sudah terformat dengan system Linux FC6, sedangkan sebelumnya pakai Windows Server 2003. Penting banget nih. Best Regards, Izwar Barnoza [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] -- www.itcenter.or.id - Komunitas Teknologi Informasi Indonesia Gabung, Keluar, Mode Kirim : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ## Jobs: itcenter.or.id/jobs ## Bursa: itcenter.or.id/bursa ## ## Jaket ITCENTER tersedia di http://shop.itcenter.or.id Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ITCENTER/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ITCENTER/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[ITCENTER] Cari ISP WIFI di Bali
IT-ers, Kantor saya akan membuka cabang di Bali sekitar Denpasar sehingga membutuhkan koneksi inet yang menggunakan WIFI. Karena baru menggunakan 2 PC jadi yg koneksinya dengan harga yang murah saja dulu dengan budget Rp. 400.000. Bila ada teman yang tau informasi ini mohon bantuannya. Best Regards, Izwar Barnoza [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] -- www.itcenter.or.id - Komunitas Teknologi Informasi Indonesia Gabung, Keluar, Mode Kirim : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ## Jobs: itcenter.or.id/jobs ## Bursa: itcenter.or.id/bursa ## ## Jaket ITCENTER tersedia di http://shop.itcenter.or.id Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ITCENTER/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ITCENTER/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[ITCENTER] gmana caranya buka regedit yg disable
Di tempat saya ada 4 pc yg terkena virus, dan menyebabkan menu RUN tidak ada, dan yg menjengkelkan Regedit nya juga ga bisa dibuka lewat direktori Windows. Gmana ya, tolongin donk bantuin.. Best Regards, Izwar Barnoza [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] -- www.itcenter.or.id - Komunitas Teknologi Informasi Indonesia Gabung, Keluar, Mode Kirim : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ## Jobs: itcenter.or.id/jobs ## Bursa: itcenter.or.id/bursa ## ## Jaket ITCENTER tersedia di http://shop.itcenter.or.id Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ITCENTER/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ITCENTER/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[ITCENTER] RE: Cari ISP WIFI di Bali
IT-ers, Kantor saya akan membuka cabang di Bali sekitar Denpasar sehingga membutuhkan koneksi inet yang menggunakan WIFI. Karena baru menggunakan 2 PC jadi yg koneksinya dengan harga yang murah saja dulu dengan budget Rp. 400.000. Bila ada teman yang tau informasi ini mohon bantuannya. Best Regards, Izwar Barnoza [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] -- www.itcenter.or.id - Komunitas Teknologi Informasi Indonesia Gabung, Keluar, Mode Kirim : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ## Jobs: itcenter.or.id/jobs ## Bursa: itcenter.or.id/bursa ## ## Jaket ITCENTER tersedia di http://shop.itcenter.or.id Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ITCENTER/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ITCENTER/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [ITCENTER] Menghilangkan Spyware
Bisa dipakai di win Server 2003 ga mas arie? Best Regards, Izwar Barnoza Speedmark Indonesia Puri Sentra Niaga Blok A20-21 Jatiwaringin, Kalimalang Jakarta Timur 13620 Indonesia Ph. (62-21) 8610805, 8608738 Fax. (62-21) 8611260 Mob. +62-818149927 www.speedmark.co.id _ From: Ryo Saeba [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2007 2:11 PM To: ITCENTER@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [ITCENTER] Menghilangkan Spyware On 6/6/07, ari rise [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:ari_rise%40yahoo.co.id co.id wrote: Butuh bantuannya, komputer saya di rumah kena spyware. Software apa yang efektif tuk menghapusnya spybot search destroy. -- things left unsaid, http://ryosaeba. http://ryosaeba.wordpress.com wordpress.com maxgain scams, http://maxgain. http://maxgain.wordpress.com wordpress.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] -- www.itcenter.or.id - Komunitas Teknologi Informasi Indonesia Gabung, Keluar, Mode Kirim : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ## Jobs: itcenter.or.id/jobs ## Bursa: itcenter.or.id/bursa ## ## Jaket ITCENTER tersedia di http://shop.itcenter.or.id Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ITCENTER/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ITCENTER/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[ITCENTER] Tlg bantu install Citrix di linux FC 6
IT-ers Saya sdh donlot Citrix dengan paket en.linuxx86.tar dan ICAClient-10.0-2.i386.rpm. Bagi temen2 sdh kah ada yang pernah install serta konfigurasinya, tolong donk ilmunya di bagi2. Saya sangat berharap sekali untuk ini. Karena bila ini berhasil saya akan melakukan migrasi ke Open Source Best Regards, Izwar Barnoza [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] -- www.itcenter.or.id - Komunitas Teknologi Informasi Indonesia Gabung, Keluar, Mode Kirim : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ## Jobs: itcenter.or.id/jobs ## Bursa: itcenter.or.id/bursa ## ## Jaket ITCENTER tersedia di http://shop.itcenter.or.id Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ITCENTER/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ITCENTER/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[ITCENTER] VPN Client di FC 6
IT ers, Ada ga VPN Client di Linux FC6, kalau ada gmana sih aktifkannya ? Best Regards, Izwar Barnoza [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] -- www.itcenter.or.id - Komunitas Teknologi Informasi Indonesia Gabung, Keluar, Mode Kirim : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ## Jobs: itcenter.or.id/jobs ## Bursa: itcenter.or.id/bursa ## ## Jaket ITCENTER tersedia di http://shop.itcenter.or.id Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ITCENTER/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ITCENTER/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [ITCENTER] Re: Membangun VPN
Gmana untuk seting VPN nya baik itu server dan client bila menggunakan Linux ( FC 6 ) ? Best Regards, Izwar Barnoza _ From: pbgabsi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2007 3:17 PM To: ITCENTER@yahoogroups.com Subject: [ITCENTER] Re: Membangun VPN 1. Koneksi internet dg IP Publik (salah satu saja) 2. VPN server 3. VPN Client 4. kalau mau LAN to LAN berarti harus ada static routing beres... --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:ITCENTER%40yahoogroups.com s.com, Hendra Yulianto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear All, Bagaimana caranya membangun sebuah VPN antara Gedung A di Kota Jakarta dan Gedung B di Kota Bandung agar bisa saling share folder., apa saja yg diperlukan dan tahapannya seperti apa? [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] -- www.itcenter.or.id - Komunitas Teknologi Informasi Indonesia Gabung, Keluar, Mode Kirim : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ## Jobs: itcenter.or.id/jobs ## Bursa: itcenter.or.id/bursa ## ## Jaket ITCENTER tersedia di http://shop.itcenter.or.id Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ITCENTER/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ITCENTER/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [ITCENTER] Re: Kenapa USB Hardisk saya
Terimakasih p. Miftah Problem Solved. Best Regards, Izwar Barnoza From: _-| ::: Miftah::: |-_ [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2007 8:48 AM To: ITCENTER@yahoogroups.com Subject: [ITCENTER] Re: Kenapa USB Hardisk saya --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:ITCENTER%40yahoogroups.com s.com, Izwar Barnoza [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Saya punya USB Hardisk, sekarang ini klu dibuka drive nya klik 2x ga mau dan selalu keluar Can not find script fileE:\MS32DLL.dll.vbs, tapi kalau klikanan trus open bisa, Kenapa ya kira2, dan bagimana solusinya ? Thx Izwar Kemungkinan komputer anda terinfeksi virus VBS.Zodgila, untuk info dan cara removalnya bisa di lihat di sini : http://www.symantec http://www.symantec.com/security_response/writeup.jsp?docid=2006- ..com/security_response/writeup.jsp?docid=2006- 112416-3424-99tabid=3 http://www.google. http://www.google.com/search? com/search? hl=ensafe=offq=MS32DLL.dll.vbsbtnG=Search Salam, Miftah http://mas-miftah. http://mas-miftah.com/allessa com/allessa [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] -- www.itcenter.or.id - Komunitas Teknologi Informasi Indonesia Gabung, Keluar, Mode Kirim : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ## Jobs: itcenter.or.id/jobs ## Bursa: itcenter.or.id/bursa ## ## Jaket ITCENTER tersedia di http://shop.itcenter.or.id Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ITCENTER/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ITCENTER/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[ITCENTER] Kenapa USB Hardisk saya
Saya punya USB Hardisk, sekarang ini klu dibuka drive nya klik 2x ga mau dan selalu keluar Can not find script fileE:\MS32DLL.dll.vbs, tapi kalau klikanan trus open bisa, Kenapa ya kira2, dan bagimana solusinya ? Thx Izwar [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] -- www.itcenter.or.id - Komunitas Teknologi Informasi Indonesia Gabung, Keluar, Mode Kirim : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ## Jobs: itcenter.or.id/jobs ## Bursa: itcenter.or.id/bursa ## ## Jaket ITCENTER tersedia di http://shop.itcenter.or.id Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ITCENTER/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ITCENTER/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/