Re: Balasan: RE: [ITCENTER] Tanya universitas?

2007-02-01 Terurut Topik M.Ichsanul Anam
Salam,
Saya setuju dg comment Dimas, idealnya tuh ada curiculum utk enterpreneurship, 
jadi ada gambaran mo ke arah mana, ato mo spesialisasi di apa, setelah lulus, 
kalo akhirnya toh tetap jd pekerja, itu decision own person, tul ngga ? 
  - Original Message - 
  From: Dimas Saputra 
  To: ITCENTER@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2007 5:05 PM
  Subject: Balasan: RE: [ITCENTER] Tanya universitas?


  memang sama aja .semua tergantung orangnya mau maju atau tidak ..
  dan kalau ada perguruan tinggi juga 
  MENGAJARKAN DAN MEMOTIVASI SARJANA MENJADI WIRAUSAHAWAN

  jangan setelah lulus di cuekin.


  di kampus2 ini saya lihat belum ada Univeristas mendukung Enterpreneurship 
  kalau itu ada mungkin bisa dihitung jari.
  ds


  SESHOMARU [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  heheh Coy gw ikut nimbrug deh... dimane2 yang namanya kuliah di indonesia
  selain ITB kali yach..hehehe... itu cuman basi doankk...

  jadi u mau kuliah dimane aja pasti sama gitu2 aja, pas lulus nyari kerja
  susah

  CMIIW

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  From: ITCENTER@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
  Of Denny Teguh
  Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2007 11:25
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  Subject: RE: [ITCENTER] Tanya universitas?

  Biasanya sih berkualitas itu identik dengan mahal :-) cmiiw

  Kecuali yg negeri barangkali. 

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  From: sigit budiarto Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2007 8:19 AM

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  Please minta sarannya dong.Aku rencana mau kuliah tahun ini and ambil TI
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  berkualitas.
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Re: [ITCENTER] Tanya universitas?

2007-02-01 Terurut Topik Rega
Setuju banget sama yg lain..,
kampus itu tempat belajar formal dan mendapatkan gelar serta status.., tapi ilmu
gak bisa cuman dapet teori harus dicoba dan diuji.., cuman share aja nih.., gua 
juga kuliah tapi
ilmunya lebih banyak didapet dari pengalaman dan pergaulan..,



sipp



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RE: [ITCENTER] Tanya universitas?

2007-01-31 Terurut Topik Adrianto Suryadi, Aris [GCG-AP_IDN]
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 berkualitas.
Universitas Indonesia-lah. Mestinya kalo negri ya lebih murah dari swasta.

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Re: [ITCENTER] Tanya universitas?

2007-01-31 Terurut Topik [::Gren::]
sorry bro..
bukannya maksudnya menjelek-jelekkan..
GUNDAR tuh ga up to date kurikulumnya..
maaap aja ya..:p

dendy wrote:

 Sori bukannya mo Promosi

 hehehe... UNIVERSITAS GUNDARMA

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  berkualitas.
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RE: [ITCENTER] Tanya universitas?

2007-01-31 Terurut Topik SESHOMARU
heheh Coy gw ikut nimbrug deh... dimane2 yang namanya kuliah di indonesia
selain ITB kali yach..hehehe... itu cuman basi doankk...

jadi u mau kuliah dimane aja pasti sama gitu2 aja, pas lulus nyari kerja
susah

CMIIW

 

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Of Denny Teguh
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Biasanya sih berkualitas itu identik dengan mahal :-) cmiiw

Kecuali yg negeri barangkali. 

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From: sigit budiarto Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2007 8:19 AM

Hai...
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Please minta sarannya dong.Aku rencana mau kuliah tahun ini and ambil TI
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berkualitas.
Thanx's a lot

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Re: [ITCENTER] Tanya universitas?

2007-01-31 Terurut Topik The_Eye_In_The_Sky
- Cygnus - wrote:
 Gak terlalu mahal? maybe, berkualitas, hmmm..saya kuliah disana thn 1993
 smp selesai..menurut saya sih..tdk berkualitas :) Entah kalo sekarang.
 Sorry no flame
   
Huahahha.ini ada alumni sebel sama almamater sendiri...hueheheh

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Re: [ITCENTER] Tanya universitas?

2007-01-31 Terurut Topik The_Eye_In_The_Sky
Wiempy wrote:
 sigit budiarto wrote:
 
 Hai...
   Dear All.
   Please minta sarannya dong.Aku rencana mau kuliah tahun ini and ambil 
 TI (Jakarta), kira2 univ.mana ya yang biayanya ga terlalu mahal tapi juga 
 berkualitas.
   

 Universitas Indonesia-lah. Mestinya kalo negri ya lebih murah dari swasta.

 Wpy:
 Ah gak juga koq, malah untuk jurusan sastra Inggris setahu saya sama
 mahalnya dgn univ. swasta. Maklum di UI itu untuk jurusan sastra
 Inggris sudah dipegang oleh swasta. Klo fakultas lainnya sich masih
 dipegang oleh pemerintah. CMIIW

Simple, yg ditanyakan TI atau Sastra Inggris? Atau TI itu sekarang jadi 
jurusan Tsastra Inggris?
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Re: [ITCENTER] Tanya universitas?

2007-01-31 Terurut Topik The_Eye_In_The_Sky
[::Gren::] wrote:
 sorry bro..
 bukannya maksudnya menjelek-jelekkan..
 GUNDAR tuh ga up to date kurikulumnya..
 maaap aja ya..:p
sebetulnya yg dibilang curriculum up to date itu apa sih? Apa kudu 
identik dengan real hardware/software yang dipakai? Sebetulnya tidak 
lho. Saya jaman kuliah computer engineering yg dikotak katik yg teori  
dan  analysis melulu. So far from the real world. Tapi ya jadinya mau 
dikasih hardware atau OS apa, ya bisa bisa aja, karena tahu konsepnya.

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Re: [ITCENTER] Tanya universitas?

2007-01-31 Terurut Topik The_Eye_In_The_Sky
bAKT wrote:
 Materi sama curiculum kan bukan sesuatu yg identik.
 Curiculum lebih pada management pendidikan bukan?
Curriculum itu bukannya guidance materi apa yang diajarkan dan diujikan?
Jadi ya identik kalo IMO.
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RE: [ITCENTER] Tanya universitas?

2007-01-31 Terurut Topik Soeprijadi Dex
Ambil saja binus ... (meskipun gue ngak lulusan situ)

 

Banyak HRD atau perush nyari orang IT lulusan dari situ ... 

 

Lalu yang penting koneksi ... karena biasanya kakak2x kelas mau bantuin
adek2xnya masuk ke tempat kerja mrk ... Tentu kakak2x ini yang bekerja di
perush Besar dgn birokrasi berlapis2x ...

 

Juga kalo mau buka usaha sendiri, kenali orang2x yang mau diajak
berpartner dari sejak taon2x awal kuliah ... Jadi kuliah itu bukan untuk
belajar, tapi untuk cari partner buat bisnis 5 taon lagi waktu lulus ...
imbangi antara character dan IP Mana bisa judge business partner ...
kalo Cuma liat ijazah, interview 1 jam + psikotes ½ hari ?

 

My two cent notes :-)

 

Dex

 

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Subject: Re: [ITCENTER] Tanya universitas?

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 Hai...
 Dear All.
 Please minta sarannya dong.Aku rencana mau kuliah tahun ini and ambil 
 TI (Jakarta), kira2 univ.mana ya yang biayanya ga terlalu mahal tapi juga

 berkualitas.


Universitas Indonesia-lah. Mestinya kalo negri ya lebih murah dari swasta.

Wpy:
Ah gak juga koq, malah untuk jurusan sastra Inggris setahu saya sama
mahalnya dgn univ. swasta. Maklum di UI itu untuk jurusan sastra
Inggris sudah dipegang oleh swasta. Klo fakultas lainnya sich masih
dipegang oleh pemerintah. CMIIW

Salam,
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Re: [ITCENTER] Tanya universitas?

2007-01-31 Terurut Topik Tatang
klo masalah bagus atau tidaknya mah dari orangnya yang kuliah,sebenarnya kita 
kan kuliah bukan anak yang masih harus disuapi saja.tapi kita dituntut untuk 
berkreasi sendiri.itu menurut saya.justru yang ga boleh menjelekan kampus 
sendiri.gua juga lulusan sana nih.piss yee


salam 


Tatang
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  Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2007 12:29 PM
  Subject: Re: [ITCENTER] Tanya universitas?


  dendy wrote:
  
   Sori bukannya mo Promosi
  
   hehehe... UNIVERSITAS GUNDARMA

  Gak terlalu mahal? maybe, berkualitas, hmmm..saya kuliah disana thn 1993
  smp selesai..menurut saya sih..tdk berkualitas :) Entah kalo sekarang.
  Sorry no flame

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Re: [ITCENTER] Tanya universitas?

2007-01-31 Terurut Topik Sandy
Kalo menurut saya sih pilihan terbaik ada di Universitas Bina Nusantara, 
tapi harganya agak tinggi. Untuk alternative coba di Universitas Bunda 
Mulia.

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Sandy
IT Staff
PT Cahayadipa Lestari
Jln K.H. Zainul Arifin Kompleks Ketapang Indah Blok B3/18
Jakarta Barat 11140
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  Please minta sarannya dong.Aku rencana mau kuliah tahun ini and ambil TI 
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  Thanx's a lot


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Re: [ITCENTER] Tanya universitas?

2007-01-31 Terurut Topik h a r i e
koreksi ahh, secara gw dari sastra ui (sekarang Fak Ilmu Pengetahuan Budaya)
kenapa UI bs mahal ?, bukan masalah dipegang swasta atau negri paradigma yg
ky gini neh yg musti dibenerin.
UI skrg bs mahal karena statusnya sekarang udah jadi BHMN, dan bukan cuman
UI aja yg ud jadi BHMN, tapi juga ITB, UGM, dan IPB yg statusnya udah
berubah dari PTN menjadi BHMN. Jadi bukan cuman Fakultas Sastra aja yg
mahal, tapi semua fakultas, apalagi kedokteran.
Kl mo tau BHMN itu apa, googling aja yak.

Kl kualitas tentu tergantung dari orangnya, tentunya sekolah jg mendukung.


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Re: [ITCENTER] Tanya universitas?

2007-01-31 Terurut Topik [::Gren::]
maap neh mas..
cari kerja susah tuh klo *kuliahnya ga bener-bener!! *coba klo kuliah lo 
bener-bener  lo nguasain ilmu yg didapetin di bangku kuliah  
memperkaya wawasan dengan belajar dari luar lagi..pasti yg namanya 
kerjaan ga bakal jauh dari lo!!! malahan kerja yg nyari lo...

bravo.

SESHOMARU wrote:

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 selain ITB kali yach..hehehe... itu cuman basi doankk...

 jadi u mau kuliah dimane aja pasti sama gitu2 aja, pas lulus nyari kerja
 susah

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Re: [ITCENTER] Tanya universitas?

2007-01-31 Terurut Topik Ferry Setiawan
kayaknya lulusan ITB ya mas...
baik atau tidaknya universitas itu kalo SDM nya gak niat ya tetep aja 
gak mutu...
apa semua lulusan ITB bagus, apa lulusan Univ Lain gak ada yang lebih 
bagus dari lulusan ITB?
gak masuk akal banget kayaknya ngomongin keunggulan Univ...
kalo dari segi kurikulum dan fasilitas mungkin aja dibandingin, toh 
akhir nya juga lulusannya yang disorot.

Thanks
Ferry S

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 jadi u mau kuliah dimane aja pasti sama gitu2 aja, pas lulus nyari kerja
 susah

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Re: [ITCENTER] Tanya universitas?

2007-01-31 Terurut Topik - Cygnus -
Tatang wrote:

 klo masalah bagus atau tidaknya mah dari orangnya yang
kuliah,sebenarnya kita kan kuliah bukan anak yang masih harus disuapi
saja.tapi kita dituntut untuk berkreasi sendiri.itu menurut saya.justru
yang ga boleh menjelekan kampus sendiri.gua juga lulusan sana nih.piss yee


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tidak hanya masalah kurikulum pendidikan saja, tapi jg pelayanan
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Re: [ITCENTER] Tanya universitas?

2007-01-31 Terurut Topik - Cygnus -
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 Tatang wrote:
 
  klo masalah bagus atau tidaknya mah dari orangnya yang
 kuliah,sebenarnya kita kan kuliah bukan anak yang masih harus disuapi
 saja.tapi kita dituntut untuk berkreasi sendiri.itu menurut saya.justru
 yang ga boleh menjelekan kampus sendiri.gua juga lulusan sana nih.piss yee

 Hehe..mohon maaf sebelumnya, karena menurut opini saya, berkualitas itu
 tidak hanya masalah kurikulum pendidikan saja, tapi jg pelayanan
 akademis ke mahasiswa yang profesional. Untuk poin terakhir, saya
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Plus pelayanan administrasi yg profesional juga. SOL

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Re: [ITCENTER] Tanya universitas?

2007-01-31 Terurut Topik Acho
Segitu hebatnya kah ITB? Kayanya ngga gitu-gitu banget dehh.. tergantung 
orangnya, bukan kampusnya.

Muhadkly - Acho- , http://muhadly.info
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heheh Coy gw ikut nimbrug deh... dimane2 yang namanya kuliah di indonesia
selain ITB kali yach..hehehe... itu cuman basi doankk...

jadi u mau kuliah dimane aja pasti sama gitu2 aja, pas lulus nyari kerja
susah

CMIIW

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Biasanya sih berkualitas itu identik dengan mahal :-) cmiiw

Kecuali yg negeri barangkali.

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Balasan: RE: [ITCENTER] Tanya universitas?

2007-01-31 Terurut Topik Dimas Saputra
memang sama aja .semua tergantung orangnya mau maju atau tidak ..
  dan kalau ada perguruan tinggi juga 
  MENGAJARKAN DAN MEMOTIVASI SARJANA MENJADI WIRAUSAHAWAN
   
  jangan setelah lulus di cuekin.
   
  
di kampus2 ini saya lihat belum ada Univeristas mendukung Enterpreneurship 
  kalau itu ada mungkin bisa dihitung jari.
  ds
   
  
SESHOMARU [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  heheh Coy gw ikut nimbrug deh... dimane2 yang namanya kuliah di 
indonesia
selain ITB kali yach..hehehe... itu cuman basi doankk...

jadi u mau kuliah dimane aja pasti sama gitu2 aja, pas lulus nyari kerja
susah

CMIIW

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Biasanya sih berkualitas itu identik dengan mahal :-) cmiiw

Kecuali yg negeri barangkali. 

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Hai...
Dear All.
Please minta sarannya dong.Aku rencana mau kuliah tahun ini and ambil TI
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Re: [ITCENTER] Tanya universitas?

2007-01-31 Terurut Topik [::Gren::]
br0..klo kita mau maju, apa kita sll pelajarin teknologi jman zebot?? 
contohnya, kita plajarin mikroprosesor tp yg diplajarin mikropro jmn 
nene kita dlu (jauh sebelon 8086)..malahan orang barat msh inget ga ad 
yg kyk gitu? emang cikal bakal lahirnya kompie baru khan dr yg lama, tp 
yg diplajari di kampus X (beberapa kampus) malahan 2 semester dpet yg 
matakul yg gituan. Trus udh ga dpet lg matakul yg kyk gitu 
kesini-kesininya!!!
contoh yg laen lagi, kita bljr bhs programming, tp yg kita plajarin bhs 
cobol, basic, pascal??? emang dunia krja bnyk yg butuhin programmer yg 
nguasain pascal? mo bikin software canggih apa seh dr pascal?? parahnya 
ampe lulus S1, yg didapet tuh bhs programmingnya plng bgs VB itupun satu 
semester!!
coba lo bdingin ma BINUS, sama ga kurikulumnya??? pokoknya klo mo maju, 
brarti hrus bljar sendiri/ortodidak  kursus sana sini. Tapi klo yg ga 
punya dana? uang kuliah aja pas-pasan gmn?? mo jadi apa nanti 
lulusannya? gelar pascal? kerja apa nanti??
mungkin itu smua harus kita pikirkan.


The_Eye_In_The_Sky wrote:

 [::Gren::] wrote:
  sorry bro..
  bukannya maksudnya menjelek-jelekkan..
  GUNDAR tuh ga up to date kurikulumnya..
  maaap aja ya..:p
 sebetulnya yg dibilang curriculum up to date itu apa sih? Apa kudu
 identik dengan real hardware/software yang dipakai? Sebetulnya tidak
 lho. Saya jaman kuliah computer engineering yg dikotak katik yg teori
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Re: [ITCENTER] Tanya universitas?

2007-01-31 Terurut Topik Iqbal Sy Al-Batafi
Kalo menurut gw sih di mana aja sama aja.
Gw banyak kenal anak kuliahan jurusan TI, tapi banyak dari mereka yang install 
windows aja kagak ngarti... (sorry bro). Bahkan ada yang gak kuliah sama 
sekali, tapi pengetahuannya tentang TI joss banget. Jadi menurut gw sih, kuliah 
dimana aja sama aja. yang penting kita mau belajar dari mana aja, gak dari 
bangku kuliah aja. ya gak?? (Mengutip kata2 Deddy Mizwar : Kalo kita 
merendahkan hati, maka, ilmu gampang masuk ke dalam otak kita...)

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Ambil saja binus ... (meskipun gue ngak lulusan situ)



Banyak HRD atau perush nyari orang IT lulusan dari situ ... 



Lalu yang penting koneksi ... karena biasanya kakak2x kelas mau bantuin
adek2xnya masuk ke tempat kerja mrk ... Tentu kakak2x ini yang bekerja di
perush Besar dgn birokrasi berlapis2x ...



Juga kalo mau buka usaha sendiri, kenali orang2x yang mau diajak
berpartner dari sejak taon2x awal kuliah ... Jadi kuliah itu bukan untuk
belajar, tapi untuk cari partner buat bisnis 5 taon lagi waktu lulus ...
imbangi antara character dan IP Mana bisa judge business partner ...
kalo Cuma liat ijazah, interview 1 jam + psikotes ½ hari ?



My two cent notes :-)



Dex



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 sigit budiarto wrote:
 Hai...
 Dear All.
 Please minta sarannya dong.Aku rencana mau kuliah tahun ini and ambil 
 TI (Jakarta), kira2 univ.mana ya yang biayanya ga terlalu mahal tapi juga

 berkualitas.


Universitas Indonesia-lah. Mestinya kalo negri ya lebih murah dari swasta.

Wpy:
Ah gak juga koq, malah untuk jurusan sastra Inggris setahu saya sama
mahalnya dgn univ. swasta. Maklum di UI itu untuk jurusan sastra
Inggris sudah dipegang oleh swasta. Klo fakultas lainnya sich masih
dipegang oleh pemerintah. CMIIW

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Re: [ITCENTER] Tanya universitas?

2007-01-31 Terurut Topik [::Gren::]
kalo managemen pendikan ga bgus, gmn?? produktifkah nanti kita?? 
(asumsinya kita mau blajar!!)

bAKT wrote:

 Materi sama curiculum kan bukan sesuatu yg identik.
 Curiculum lebih pada management pendidikan bukan?
 cmiiw

 The_Eye_In_The_Sky wrote:
  [::Gren::] wrote:
 
  sorry bro..
  bukannya maksudnya menjelek-jelekkan..
  GUNDAR tuh ga up to date kurikulumnya..
  maaap aja ya..:p
 
  sebetulnya yg dibilang curriculum up to date itu apa sih? Apa kudu
  identik dengan real hardware/software yang dipakai? Sebetulnya tidak
  lho. Saya jaman kuliah computer engineering yg dikotak katik yg teori
  dan analysis melulu. So far from the real world. Tapi ya jadinya mau
  dikasih hardware atau OS apa, ya bisa bisa aja, karena tahu konsepnya.
 
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Re: [ITCENTER] Tanya universitas?

2007-01-31 Terurut Topik Indra
On 1/31/07, Iqbal Sy Al-Batafi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Kalo menurut gw sih di mana aja sama aja.
  Gw banyak kenal anak kuliahan jurusan TI, tapi banyak dari mereka yang 
 install windows aja kagak ngarti... (sorry bro). Bahkan ada yang gak kuliah 
 sama sekali, tapi pengetahuannya tentang TI joss banget. Jadi menurut gw sih, 
 kuliah dimana aja sama aja. yang penting kita mau belajar dari mana aja, gak 
 dari bangku kuliah aja. ya gak?? (Mengutip kata2 Deddy Mizwar : Kalo 
 kita merendahkan hati, maka, ilmu gampang masuk ke dalam otak kita...)

Betul mas, saya setuju dengan pendapatnya. Saya juga banyak kenal
dengan orang-orang dari berbagai perguruan tinggi. Sebagian besar
bagus di nilai mata kuliah yang di kampus. Tapi pas terjun di
pekerjaan, banyak yang gak ngertinya. Umumnya saya kasih waktu 3 bulan
untuk adaptasi, tapi lewat dari itu, ya terpaksa rekomendasi untuk
diganti.
Sampai saat ini saya masih enjoy dengan rekan kerja yang cuma lulusan
STM, tapi orangnya mudah adaptasi dan ada kemauan untuk belajar. Eh...
tambah satu lagi improvement / kaizen (maklum kantor orang
jepang).

Tapi kadang yang kasihan kalo kantornya berpatokan dengan standar gaji
dari jenjang pendidikan. :(


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[ITCENTER] Tanya universitas?

2007-01-30 Terurut Topik sigit budiarto
Hai...
  Dear All.
  Please minta sarannya dong.Aku rencana mau kuliah tahun ini and ambil TI 
(Jakarta), kira2 univ.mana ya yang biayanya ga terlalu mahal tapi juga 
berkualitas.
  Thanx's a lot


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Re: [ITCENTER] Tanya universitas?

2007-01-30 Terurut Topik The_Eye_In_The_Sky
sigit budiarto wrote:
 Hai...
   Dear All.
   Please minta sarannya dong.Aku rencana mau kuliah tahun ini and ambil TI 
 (Jakarta), kira2 univ.mana ya yang biayanya ga terlalu mahal tapi juga 
 berkualitas.
Universitas Indonesia-lah. Mestinya kalo negri ya lebih murah dari swasta.

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Re: [ITCENTER] Tanya universitas?

2007-01-30 Terurut Topik dendy
Sori bukannya mo Promosi

hehehe... UNIVERSITAS GUNDARMA

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 Please minta sarannya dong.Aku rencana mau kuliah tahun ini and ambil TI
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 berkualitas.
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Re: [ITCENTER] Tanya universitas?

2007-01-30 Terurut Topik Grand Zah Putra
kyknya kalo swasta, BSI cocok..ga bgitu mahal trus kurikulum 
pendidikannya jg up to date (kata tmen gw yg kul disono)...
coba aja cek dlu ke kampusnya...


The_Eye_In_The_Sky wrote:

 sigit budiarto wrote:
  Hai...
  Dear All.
  Please minta sarannya dong.Aku rencana mau kuliah tahun ini and 
 ambil TI (Jakarta), kira2 univ.mana ya yang biayanya ga terlalu mahal 
 tapi juga berkualitas.
 Universitas Indonesia-lah. Mestinya kalo negri ya lebih murah dari swasta.

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Re: [ITCENTER] Tanya universitas?

2007-01-30 Terurut Topik Wiempy
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From: The_Eye_In_The_Sky [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Wednesday, 31 January, 2007 11:13 AM
Subject: Re: [ITCENTER] Tanya universitas?


 sigit budiarto wrote:
 Hai...
   Dear All.
   Please minta sarannya dong.Aku rencana mau kuliah tahun ini and ambil 
 TI (Jakarta), kira2 univ.mana ya yang biayanya ga terlalu mahal tapi juga 
 berkualitas.


Universitas Indonesia-lah. Mestinya kalo negri ya lebih murah dari swasta.

Wpy:
Ah gak juga koq, malah untuk jurusan sastra Inggris setahu saya sama
mahalnya dgn univ. swasta. Maklum di UI itu untuk jurusan sastra
Inggris sudah dipegang oleh swasta. Klo fakultas lainnya sich masih
dipegang oleh pemerintah. CMIIW

Salam,
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RE: [ITCENTER] Tanya universitas?

2007-01-30 Terurut Topik Denny Teguh
Biasanya sih berkualitas itu identik dengan mahal :-)  cmiiw

Kecuali yg negeri barangkali. 

 

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From: sigit budiarto Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2007 8:19 AM



Hai...
Dear All.
Please minta sarannya dong.Aku rencana mau kuliah tahun ini and ambil TI
(Jakarta), kira2 univ.mana ya yang biayanya ga terlalu mahal tapi juga
berkualitas.
Thanx's a lot





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