[ITCENTER] Tape Backup

2011-01-06 Terurut Topik Jufri Edhay
Hi ITers,

mo tanya lagi pnya masalah tape backup nih, maklum masih newbie dapat
limpahan gawean yang blum pernah gw pegang jadi learning by doing deh :

1. Di Kantor gw punya tape backup Dell PV-T124 pakai software Arcserv
Brighstor,selama ini cuman monitoring doang, rencana mau pakai tape backup
satu lagi pake Dell Power Vault TL2000, jadi 2 tape backup mau dipake
barengan dan gantian

2. Gw tambah bingung deh, rencana - gw lagi nyari vendor yang mau bantuin
service skalian training buat gw bisa tlg info via japri
 - klo teman2 ITers
bisa, ajuin penawarannya ke gw ( btw harus pake nama perusahaan ya,klo ga
susah di acc nya )
 - info selanjutnya bisa
japri ke gw misalkan penjelasan gw blm jelas



Please help me urgent.



Thx u


Jufri


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Re: [ITCENTER] Tape Backup

2011-01-06 Terurut Topik David Santoso
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Hi ITers,

mo tanya lagi pnya masalah tape backup nih, maklum masih newbie dapat
limpahan gawean yang blum pernah gw pegang jadi learning by doing deh :

1. Di Kantor gw punya tape backup Dell PV-T124 pakai software Arcserv
Brighstor,selama ini cuman monitoring doang, rencana mau pakai tape backup
satu lagi pake Dell Power Vault TL2000, jadi 2 tape backup mau dipake
barengan dan gantian

2. Gw tambah bingung deh, rencana - gw lagi nyari vendor yang mau bantuin
service skalian training buat gw bisa tlg info via japri
 - klo teman2 ITers
bisa, ajuin penawarannya ke gw ( btw harus pake nama perusahaan ya,klo ga
susah di acc nya )
 - info selanjutnya bisa
japri ke gw misalkan penjelasan gw blm jelas



Please help me urgent.



Thx u


Jufri


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Re: [ITCENTER] Tape Backup

2011-01-06 Terurut Topik Jufri Edhay
cara setting tape backup kedua tipe tersebut..??

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 Subject: [ITCENTER] Tape Backup

 Hi ITers,

 mo tanya lagi pnya masalah tape backup nih, maklum masih newbie dapat
 limpahan gawean yang blum pernah gw pegang jadi learning by doing deh :

 1. Di Kantor gw punya tape backup Dell PV-T124 pakai software Arcserv
 Brighstor,selama ini cuman monitoring doang, rencana mau pakai tape backup
 satu lagi pake Dell Power Vault TL2000, jadi 2 tape backup mau dipake
 barengan dan gantian

 2. Gw tambah bingung deh, rencana - gw lagi nyari vendor yang mau bantuin
 service skalian training buat gw bisa tlg info via japri
 - klo teman2 ITers
 bisa, ajuin penawarannya ke gw ( btw harus pake nama perusahaan ya,klo ga
 susah di acc nya )
 - info selanjutnya bisa
 japri ke gw misalkan penjelasan gw blm jelas



 Please help me urgent.



 Thx u


 Jufri


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Re: [ITCENTER] Tape Backup

2011-01-06 Terurut Topik laurensia phang
tuh di point 2 hehe


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Re: [ITCENTER] Tape Backup

2011-01-06 Terurut Topik Jufri Edhay
maksudnya apa yg di point 2?

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Re: [ITCENTER] Tape Backup

2008-11-11 Terurut Topik - Cygnus -
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 oh saya cuman ngomong soal DLT pakai SATA, tapi tidak pernah bicara soal 
   DLT eSATA lho. Jadi ya maksud saya internal. Walau secara theory bisa 
 saja dibikin external, tapi saya belum pernah lihat chasis eSATA selain 
 untuk hard disk, dan jelas casing seperti itu gak bisa dipasangi DLT drive.

Sori saya yang salah interpretasi :)

 BTW,kenapa kudu external sih? Internal gak bisa? Lalu total sekali 
 backup berapa ukurannya?

Internal bisa aja, cuma saya perlunya alat backup ini nantinya bisa dipindah2 
colok ke server lain, kali2 server backup nya rusak misalnya.
 
 Lalu maksud critical ini bagaimana yah?
 Apa takut hard disknya rusak?

Jelas takut hehehe

 Ya  ZFS mirror atau raidz dong, satu hard 
 disk jebol masih ada copy atau paritinya tho.



 Atau takut corrupt data? Gak masalah, checksum ZFS sangat rigorous, end 
 to end, tape jelas kalah
 Atau takut gak bisa multi versioning? ZFS snapshot bisa bikin snapshot 
 harian.
 Atau data tidak boleh di satu tempat saja untuk disaster recovery? Ya 
 pakai ZFS replication. Foto foto keluarga saya disimpan di main ZFS 
 server, lalu setiap minggu sekali di replicate ke ZFS desktop di ruang tamu.
 Atau datanya kudu diumpetin? Nah kalo ini emang kudu external. Tapi ZFS 
 juga bisa diterapkan di external drive :D
 
 Ngeyel terus... hehehehee

Dari semua point, selain takut, saya kan kudu riset dulu, apakah the whole ZFS 
system berjalan dengan baik (walau situ recommended, saya tetep kudu uji coba 
dulu :P), dan untuk riset ini saya kudu beli eksternal HDD dan USB port hub 
(gak bisa minjem kan :D) dan justifikasinya agak ribet disini :), dan juga ada 
alasan lain yang tidak bisa saya ungkapkan di forum ini hehehe.

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Re: [ITCENTER] Tape Backup

2008-11-10 Terurut Topik The_Eye_In_The_Sky
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 Dear all,
 
 Ada rekan2 yang bisa menyarankan tipe eksternal tape backup USB yang bagus?

Setahu saya, yang pakai USB cuman DDS4 tape drive, dan itu jelas paling 
bagus bikinan HP.

Cuman apa kagak bahaya tuh, streaming sequential data ke device yg 
lambat dan tidak pakai cache menggunakan USB interface? Takutnya server 
jadi lambat sekali jalannya ketika backup. Gak beli SATA tape drive aja 
kalo mau murah? DLT juga ada lho untuk SATA ini.



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Re: [ITCENTER] Tape Backup

2008-11-10 Terurut Topik - Cygnus -

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  Dear all,
  
  Ada rekan2 yang bisa menyarankan tipe eksternal tape backup USB yang bagus?
 
 Setahu saya, yang pakai USB cuman DDS4 tape drive, dan itu jelas paling 
 bagus bikinan HP.
 
 Cuman apa kagak bahaya tuh, streaming sequential data ke device yg 
 lambat dan tidak pakai cache menggunakan USB interface? Takutnya server 
 jadi lambat sekali jalannya ketika backup. Gak beli SATA tape drive aja 
 kalo mau murah? DLT juga ada lho untuk SATA ini.

Sebenarnya sih tujuannya untuk centralized backup, jadi tape ini bakal dicolok 
di satu server FTP/rsync, dan server2 lain bakal backup ke server ini via 
FTP/rsync. Nantinya setelah dipool semua ke server FTP ini, baru deh doi 
jalanin backup ke tape. Jadi memang fungsi si server ini nantinya cuma nerima 
dan backup aja, dan data yang dibackup pun gak gede2 amat, isinya cuma file2 
config aja. Tadinya sih kepengen banget pakai online image snapshot macem 
Acronis True Echo Enterprise, cuma vendor nya dikontak gak bales2 :), dan 
sepertinya agent nya cuma bisa support Windows dan Linux (berdasarkan info dari 
website nya Acronis) CMIIW, dan disini majority server pake FreeBSD.

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Re: [ITCENTER] Tape Backup

2008-11-10 Terurut Topik yunshu black thander
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 Ada rekan2 yang bisa menyarankan tipe eksternal tape backup USB yang bagus?

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Re: [ITCENTER] Tape Backup

2008-11-10 Terurut Topik Arie kurniawan
Mas...kenapa gak beli yang internalsoalnya yang namanya Backup Restore
itu hal yang paling crucialsitu gak mau kan kalo ternyata backupannya
corrupt

Pada 10 November 2008 18:08, The_Eye_In_The_Sky
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   - Cygnus - wrote:
 
 
  Dear all,
 
  Ada rekan2 yang bisa menyarankan tipe eksternal tape backup USB yang
 bagus?

 Setahu saya, yang pakai USB cuman DDS4 tape drive, dan itu jelas paling
 bagus bikinan HP.

 Cuman apa kagak bahaya tuh, streaming sequential data ke device yg
 lambat dan tidak pakai cache menggunakan USB interface? Takutnya server
 jadi lambat sekali jalannya ketika backup. Gak beli SATA tape drive aja
 kalo mau murah? DLT juga ada lho untuk SATA ini.
  



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Re: [ITCENTER] Tape Backup

2008-11-10 Terurut Topik - Cygnus -


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 Mas...kenapa gak beli yang internalsoalnya yang namanya Backup Restore
 itu hal yang paling crucialsitu gak mau kan kalo ternyata backupannya
 corrupt

Emang kalo saya pake eksternal trus hasil backup nya kemungkinan besar corrupt 
gitu?

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Re: [ITCENTER] Tape Backup

2008-11-10 Terurut Topik The_Eye_In_The_Sky
Heran deh, moderator satu ini (yginanjar) kerjaannya ngapain sih?
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Re: [ITCENTER] Tape Backup

2008-11-10 Terurut Topik The_Eye_In_The_Sky
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 Sebenarnya sih tujuannya untuk centralized backup, jadi tape ini bakal 
 dicolok di satu server FTP/rsync, dan server2 lain bakal backup ke 
 server ini via FTP/rsync. Nantinya setelah dipool semua ke server FTP 
 ini, baru deh doi jalanin backup ke tape. Jadi memang fungsi si server 
 ini nantinya cuma nerima dan backup aja, dan data yang dibackup pun gak 
 gede2 amat, isinya cuma file2 config aja.


Config file? Kecil dong.
Kenapa situ kagak install Solaris x86 atau OpenSolaris, belikan satu 
hard disk 500GB, kan murah tuh. Lalu install ZFS di atasnya.
Semua server tinggal rsync ke Solaris server ini, kemudian data yg 
terkumpul bisa di snapshot setiap hari.
Bikin cron supaya snapshot dijalankan setiap malam, butuh beberapa detik 
saja, lalu setiap 30 hari dijalankan snapshot bulanan dan snapshot daily 
di purge satu satu. Jadi kan?

Di rumah saya pakai ZFS file server ini, sekarang sudah 6x500GB pakai RAIDZ.



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Re: [ITCENTER] Tape Backup

2008-11-10 Terurut Topik - Cygnus -
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 Config file? Kecil dong.
 Kenapa situ kagak install Solaris x86 atau OpenSolaris, belikan satu 
 hard disk 500GB, kan murah tuh. Lalu install ZFS di atasnya.
 Semua server tinggal rsync ke Solaris server ini, kemudian data yg 
 terkumpul bisa di snapshot setiap hari.
 Bikin cron supaya snapshot dijalankan setiap malam, butuh beberapa detik 
 saja, lalu setiap 30 hari dijalankan snapshot bulanan dan snapshot daily 
 di purge satu satu. Jadi kan?

Maaf ralat :) nggak cuma config file tapi juga database profile email2 user 
format sql dan ldap, dan juga data2 web server. Kalau pakai eksternal hard 
disk, sepertinya diluar pertimbangan, mengingat data2 profile dan web itu 
critical. Saya tertarik sih sama anjuran situ pakai eksternal SATA DLT, tapi 
google2 kok ndak dapet info nya ya? Boleh tau produknya apa?

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Re: [ITCENTER] Tape Backup

2008-11-10 Terurut Topik The_Eye_In_The_Sky
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 Maaf ralat :) nggak cuma config file tapi juga database profile email2 
 user format sql dan ldap, dan juga data2 web server. Kalau pakai 
 eksternal hard disk, sepertinya diluar pertimbangan, mengingat data2 
 profile dan web itu critical. Saya tertarik sih sama anjuran situ pakai 
 eksternal SATA DLT, tapi google2 kok ndak dapet info nya ya? Boleh tau 
 produknya apa?


oh saya cuman ngomong soal DLT pakai SATA, tapi tidak pernah bicara soal 
  DLT eSATA lho. Jadi ya maksud saya internal. Walau secara theory bisa 
saja dibikin external, tapi saya belum pernah lihat chasis eSATA selain 
untuk hard disk, dan jelas casing seperti itu gak bisa dipasangi DLT drive.

BTW,kenapa kudu external sih? Internal gak bisa? Lalu total sekali 
backup berapa ukurannya?

Lalu maksud critical ini bagaimana yah?
Apa takut hard disknya rusak? Ya  ZFS mirror atau raidz dong, satu hard 
disk jebol masih ada copy atau paritinya tho.
Atau takut corrupt data? Gak masalah, checksum ZFS sangat rigorous, end 
to end, tape jelas kalah
Atau takut gak bisa multi versioning? ZFS snapshot bisa bikin snapshot 
harian.
Atau data tidak boleh di satu tempat saja untuk disaster recovery? Ya 
pakai ZFS replication. Foto foto keluarga saya disimpan di main ZFS 
server, lalu setiap minggu sekali di replicate ke ZFS desktop di ruang tamu.
Atau datanya kudu diumpetin? Nah kalo ini emang kudu external. Tapi ZFS 
juga bisa diterapkan di external drive :D

Ngeyel terus... hehehehee




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[ITCENTER] Tape Backup

2008-11-09 Terurut Topik - Cygnus -
Dear all,

Ada rekan2 yang bisa menyarankan tipe eksternal tape backup USB yang bagus?

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[ITCENTER] Tape Backup DDS 4

2006-06-20 Terurut Topik Puji Purwanto

Dear all,

Langsung aja nieh. Waktu Backup data ke tape DDS4 muncul error :

Add 4mmDDS media to the Free Media Pool, or to media pool \Backup\4mm
DDS

Sebelumnya lancar lancar aja. Saya pake windows 2000 Advance Server.
Mohon bantuan dari rekan sekalian, bagaimana cara mengatasinya.

Makasih banyak ya...

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