[JAWS-Users] Re: I Hate JFW8 and IE7 with a passion

2006-12-11 Thread Harding, Wally

Marilyn

Did you mean that you received a higher number  of spam messages after
installing IE7? If you are, then that may be why suddenly the same is
happening to me but only on the machine with IE7 on it the others with
IE6 don't seem so bad, or the whole thing could just be coincidence.

I have to say though that like many others I'm not overjoyed about IE7
and am considering removing it and going back to IE6.

Wally Harding
RNIB Hi-tech Support
 
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Have you checked Internet options under the security list to see what is
checked or not checked?  I can tell you, for what little comfort it may
bring, that I hated ie 7, too, as it screwed up everything.  I
uninstalled v. 7 and went back to ie 6 to go along with jaws 7 and then
did a system restore for good measure.  Things are just fine except for
spam hitting me the past two weeks.  marilyn 





 

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[JAWS-Users] Re: I Hate JFW8 and IE7 with a passion

2006-12-11 Thread Benjamin Hawkes-Lewis

Wally Harding wrote:

> Did you mean that you received a higher number  of spam messages after
> installing IE7?

I don't really see why you would be receiving more spam. What's your
email setup like and what anti-spam protection do you have? Did you turn
off your antivirus before installing Internet Explorer 7?

You folks might also consider posting problems to the
microsoft.public.internetexplorer.general newsgroup.


> I have to say though that like many others I'm not overjoyed about IE7
> and am considering removing it and going back to IE6.
> 
There have been a lot of messages suggesting returning to IE6, a browser
that is 5 years old. Is JAWS 8's Firefox support not good enough to
contemplate moving sideways rather than backwards? If so, all you lose
with moving away from IE6 is access to Flash content.

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[JAWS-Users] Re: TRILLIAN with jaws or Win-eyes

2006-12-11 Thread Demetry
Hi Guys,
 
Take Miranda Instant Messenger from www.miranda-im.org . it is simple to
use, and at www.jfwlite.com  there are scripts available.
 
HTH, Demetry.


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[JAWS-Users] Re: I Hate JFW8 and IE7 with a passion

2006-12-11 Thread David Ferrin

I'd like this subject line to go away.  It's not that the message contents 
are all that bad, it's just that the subject line is so negative.  Remember 
this group is supposed to be a positive force.
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[JAWS-Users] Downloding New Versions of Software Like IE 7

2006-12-11 Thread Victor Gouveia

Hi All,

If it means anything, and although it doesn't mean anything for those who 
have already done it, it might help people who are considering downloading 
the new IE Update.

One rule I have lived by when it comes to software is that I will never 
download a new version of software right when it comes out.

While I agree that most software vendors and makers test drive their 
software out on beta testers and the like, it's been my experience that 
these beta testers are, for the most part, working with kick ass systems and 
working with, if not better, than better than average computer systems.

Also, these vendors don't always test out their products with the disabled 
in mind.  Having said that, I usually only test out or download and install 
new versions of software, like IE 7 and the like after a few updates have 
been released with it, such as a service pack or a higher version.

Anyway, that's my two cents worth, and I hope the subject line was changed 
as per your instructions, David.

Victor 



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[JAWS-Users] I'm going to work on the web site here shortly

2006-12-11 Thread David Ferrin

I don't recall if I posted this before or not, if so forgive my failing 
memory.  Any how the plan right now is to arrange the programs page to be 
more like the tips and tricks page IE everything under their own headings 
ETC.  Also I'm going to create a page devoted to scripts.  It will be small 
at first but with luck it will grow just like everything else has up there. 
This thing started out on 10 MB of web space and it has since out grown the 
100 MB space I had bought for it.  fortunately a generous list member is 
letting me use a healthy portion of his extra room available on his server 
so we're in good shape that way.  Also another member is going to teach me a 
little more HTML code than I know right now, which isn't much to be honest. 
Any how that's the news for today.
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[JAWS-Users] Re: Downloding New Versions of Software Like IE 7

2006-12-11 Thread David Ferrin

You're a good man, I approve completely.  Here's my thoughts on IE 7 after 
almost a week of using it.  So far no problems at all.  The tool bars are a 
bit strange I will admit but the core functionality seems to be quite 
stable.  It will take just a bit to become aware of it's newer features but 
in my opinion it is quite doable.
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From: "Victor Gouveia" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Monday, December 11, 2006 7:58 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Downloding New Versions of Software Like IE 7



Hi All,

If it means anything, and although it doesn't mean anything for those who
have already done it, it might help people who are considering downloading
the new IE Update.

One rule I have lived by when it comes to software is that I will never
download a new version of software right when it comes out.

While I agree that most software vendors and makers test drive their
software out on beta testers and the like, it's been my experience that
these beta testers are, for the most part, working with kick ass systems and
working with, if not better, than better than average computer systems.

Also, these vendors don't always test out their products with the disabled
in mind.  Having said that, I usually only test out or download and install
new versions of software, like IE 7 and the like after a few updates have
been released with it, such as a service pack or a higher version.

Anyway, that's my two cents worth, and I hope the subject line was changed
as per your instructions, David.

Victor








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[JAWS-Users] Removing IE 7

2006-12-11 Thread Walt Smith

IE 6 is still there and nothing will be affected.

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But Walt, if I uninstall IE7, where will I get IE6 from?  Didn't IE7 install
on top of 6?

Arianna Calesso


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[JAWS-Users] Windows Media player 11 volume control

2006-12-11 Thread ANDREW GODWIN

Greetings all,



I downloaded Windows Media player 11, and found that F9 and F10 no 
longer work to control the volume of a file. Any and all suggestions are 
welcome.



Thanks in advance,

Andrew




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[JAWS-Users] Re: Downloding New Versions of Software Like IE 7

2006-12-11 Thread Walt Smith

Well, Microsoft has a whole department of people working full time doing 
nothing but testing their software with all access software. I'm personally 
acquainted with some of those people and can assure you and others that they 
do a world-class job. Many of those people are also beta testers for the 
various accessibility applications, so are in excellent positions to pass 
information in both directions; that is, to both Microsoft and to the 
accessibility application vendors.

Microsoft has an exceptionally strong incentive to make their software as 
accessible as possible and that incentive is called U.S. government 
contracts. They were told in no uncertain terms several years ago that they 
had to ensure that their programs were accessible or the federal government 
wouldn't purchase from them and that's when their accessibility group was 
formed.

What other application vendors may or may not do (Symantec, for example, as 
there have been many complaints about the newest version of Norton Anti 
Virus) is pretty much up to them. However, it's important to bear in mind 
that one person's total lack of accessibility is the next person's 
completely usable application. This was certainly demonstrated in the recent 
lawsuit against Target with the claim that their web site was not 
accessible. This at the same time that many blind people I know personally 
were using it on a regular basis. One might argue that we're rapidly 
degenerating into a situation where the lowest common denominator of user; 
and not the _typical_ user; is going to get to define what constitutes 
accessibility and this would be a disaster, albeit totally politically 
correct.

I think you also may forget that software vendors in general must develop 
and test their programs with the average user in mind. This has several 
implications, including not supporting your comment about the quality of 
systems used by testers and evelopers. They're smart enough to realize, 
believe it or not, that the typical user isn't running the latest, greatest, 
and hottest system and they must act accordingly.

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Sent: Monday, December 11, 2006 7:58 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Downloding New Versions of Software Like IE 7



Hi All,

If it means anything, and although it doesn't mean anything for those who
have already done it, it might help people who are considering downloading
the new IE Update.

One rule I have lived by when it comes to software is that I will never
download a new version of software right when it comes out.

While I agree that most software vendors and makers test drive their
software out on beta testers and the like, it's been my experience that
these beta testers are, for the most part, working with kick ass systems and
working with, if not better, than better than average computer systems.

Also, these vendors don't always test out their products with the disabled
in mind.  Having said that, I usually only test out or download and install
new versions of software, like IE 7 and the like after a few updates have
been released with it, such as a service pack or a higher version.

Anyway, that's my two cents worth, and I hope the subject line was changed
as per your instructions, David.

Victor


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[JAWS-Users] Re: Windows Media player 11 volume control

2006-12-11 Thread Demetry

Perhaps with F8 and F9 possible?


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[JAWS-Users] Re: I'm going to work on the web site here shortly

2006-12-11 Thread Becky Buckner

Hi David.
Just wanted to say thanks for what you are doing here.  It's a wonderful 
source for help and I sincerely appreciate all the work and time you put 
into it.

Best wishes for the holiday.

Becky
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Sent: Monday, December 11, 2006 8:03 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] I'm going to work on the web site here shortly



I don't recall if I posted this before or not, if so forgive my failing
memory.  Any how the plan right now is to arrange the programs page to be
more like the tips and tricks page IE everything under their own headings
ETC.  Also I'm going to create a page devoted to scripts.  It will be small
at first but with luck it will grow just like everything else has up there.
This thing started out on 10 MB of web space and it has since out grown the
100 MB space I had bought for it.  fortunately a generous list member is
letting me use a healthy portion of his extra room available on his server
so we're in good shape that way.  Also another member is going to teach me a
little more HTML code than I know right now, which isn't much to be honest.
Any how that's the news for today.
David Ferrin
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[JAWS-Users] Re: Windows Media player 11 volume control

2006-12-11 Thread Bob Batchelor

You try the "Page up" or "Page down" buttons yet?

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Subject: [JAWS-Users] Windows Media player 11 volume control


Greetings all,



I downloaded Windows Media player 11, and found that F9 and F10 no 
longer work to control the volume of a file. Any and all suggestions are 
welcome.



Thanks in advance,

Andrew





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[JAWS-Users] Re: I'm going to work on the web site here shortly

2006-12-11 Thread Maria Campbell

Thanks, David, and God bless you and your work.


Sunny Day
Maria Campbell
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2. Free your mind from worries.
3. Live simply.
4. Give more.
5. Expect less.

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Sent: Monday, December 11, 2006 8:03 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] I'm going to work on the web site here shortly


>
> I don't recall if I posted this before or not, if so forgive my failing
> memory.  Any how the plan right now is to arrange the programs page to be
> more like the tips and tricks page IE everything under their own headings
> ETC.  Also I'm going to create a page devoted to scripts.  It will be 
> small
> at first but with luck it will grow just like everything else has up 
> there.
> This thing started out on 10 MB of web space and it has since out grown 
> the
> 100 MB space I had bought for it.  fortunately a generous list member is
> letting me use a healthy portion of his extra room available on his server
> so we're in good shape that way.  Also another member is going to teach me 
> a
> little more HTML code than I know right now, which isn't much to be 
> honest.
> Any how that's the news for today.
> David Ferrin
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> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Consciousness is that annoying time between naps.
>
>
> > 


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[JAWS-Users] Re: Windows Media player 11 volume control

2006-12-11 Thread ANDREW GODWIN

Yes, that does work. I looked at the JAWS hot key list for Windows Media 
player and it said F9 and F10. But you are correct it is now F8 and F9. 
Thanks,
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Subject: [JAWS-Users] Re: Windows Media player 11 volume control



Perhaps with F8 and F9 possible?




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[JAWS-Users] Re: I Hate JFW8 and IE7 with a passion

2006-12-11 Thread Marilyn Walker

Sure seems like that is what happened with ie 7 but, as you say, it may be 
coincidence.  The other angle may be that our beiing on these lists has 
enabled spammers to sign up , too, just to get our e mail addresses.  Who 
knows?  marilyn 


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[JAWS-Users] Re: I'm going to work on the web site here shortly

2006-12-11 Thread Donnie Parrett

Hey David,

That's wonderful.  And as a famous broadcaster from days past would have said, 
"And that's the way
it is."

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I don't recall if I posted this before or not, if so forgive my failing
memory.  Any how the plan right now is to arrange the programs page to be
more like the tips and tricks page IE everything under their own headings
ETC.  Also I'm going to create a page devoted to scripts.  It will be small
at first but with luck it will grow just like everything else has up there.
This thing started out on 10 MB of web space and it has since out grown the
100 MB space I had bought for it.  fortunately a generous list member is
letting me use a healthy portion of his extra room available on his server
so we're in good shape that way.  Also another member is going to teach me a
little more HTML code than I know right now, which isn't much to be honest.
Any how that's the news for today.
David Ferrin
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[JAWS-Users] On topic?

2006-12-11 Thread Geno

Monday, December 11, 2006 11:54 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Re: I Hate JFW8 and IE7 with a passion
Sure seems like that is what happened with ie 7 but, as you say, it may be
coincidence.  The other angle may be that our beiing on these lists has
enabled spammers to sign up , too, just to get our e mail addresses.  Who
knows?
Geno:
I am just a little curious. I thought this was a group totally dedicated to
solving Jaws problems.
That being with programs and jaws?

What about the headers to what one is talking about?
In dealing with groups. I was hoping this could be business. Not touchy
feely stuff.
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[JAWS-Users] Windows Media Player

2006-12-11 Thread one foxy lady

Can anyone tell me how to get WM player to recognize to play .AUG files?

Thanks,

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[JAWS-Users] the scripts page is already up

2006-12-11 Thread David Ferrin

What I've done was remove the scripts and instructional material regarding 
them and placed all of it on a separate page.  This is in the hope to avoid 
confusion like what occurred last week pertaining to the cu cu clock scripts 
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[JAWS-Users] Re: the scripts page is already up

2006-12-11 Thread Lois Butterfield

Hi David,

Speaking of the cu cu clock script, I've got them working and really enjoy 
the clock.  Thank you for having it there for us.


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What I've done was remove the scripts and instructional material regarding
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[JAWS-Users] Re: the scripts page is already up

2006-12-11 Thread David Ferrin

You're welcome, besides didn't you know they are included in the membership. 
Just kidding of course.
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Hi David,

Speaking of the cu cu clock script, I've got them working and really enjoy
the clock.  Thank you for having it there for us.


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What I've done was remove the scripts and instructional material regarding
them and placed all of it on a separate page.  This is in the hope to avoid
confusion like what occurred last week pertaining to the cu cu clock scripts
thread.  It's not magic just a little word processing and attention to
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[JAWS-Users] question regarding the programs page

2006-12-11 Thread David Ferrin

I'm figuring on rearranging things a little bit possibly placing programs 
under their own heading, so now here's the question.  What is your opinion 
on how things should be arranged? The problem with placing items under their 
own heading is first of all what to name the heading itself.  Secondly 
several of the programs are one of a kind.  I might just try grouping those 
that would seem to go together without worrying about heading names.  It 
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[JAWS-Users] Re: question regarding the programs page

2006-12-11 Thread Donnie Parrett

Hey David,

If I gave you my opinion, would I have another one to give away to someone else 
later?

Mele Kalikimaka,
Scooter



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I'm figuring on rearranging things a little bit possibly placing programs
under their own heading, so now here's the question.  What is your opinion
on how things should be arranged? The problem with placing items under their
own heading is first of all what to name the heading itself.  Secondly
several of the programs are one of a kind.  I might just try grouping those
that would seem to go together without worrying about heading names.  It
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[JAWS-Users] Re: question regarding the programs page

2006-12-11 Thread David Ferrin

No save your resources for a rainy day, I understand.
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Hey David,

If I gave you my opinion, would I have another one to give away to someone 
else later?

Mele Kalikimaka,
Scooter



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I'm figuring on rearranging things a little bit possibly placing programs
under their own heading, so now here's the question.  What is your opinion
on how things should be arranged? The problem with placing items under their
own heading is first of all what to name the heading itself.  Secondly
several of the programs are one of a kind.  I might just try grouping those
that would seem to go together without worrying about heading names.  It
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[JAWS-Users] Re: Windows Media player 11 volume control

2006-12-11 Thread Iamcardman2004
gOO BACK TO mEDIA PLAYER 10. tHEY CHANGED 11 FOR THE WORST...

aL


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[JAWS-Users] Re: question regarding the programs page

2006-12-11 Thread Iamcardman2004
Why not go alphabetical like jfw lite?

Al


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[JAWS-Users] Re: question regarding the programs page

2006-12-11 Thread David Ferrin

Actually that isn't alphabetical, besides anybody should be able to make any 
page that way in their links list.  I think it's going to turn out to be 
something like what is over there with related programs located under broad 
headings such as internet ETC.  Thanks to all who have responded to my 
query.
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Why not go alphabetical like jfw lite?

Al




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[JAWS-Users] Merge in JAWS 8 not complete

2006-12-11 Thread Chris Feist

Hi I did a merge from JAWS 7.0 to 8.  All my settings didn't get changed,
however.

One big thing I've noticed is that all my dictionary manager settings didn't
move to JAWS 8 in MS Outlook 2003.  Maybe not in some other areas as well,
but I've only used JAWS 8 a little so far since I can't stand it.

Isn't the dictionary manager settings in a JDF file?  I've moved all the
Microsoft outlook files in my ENU folder manually, the JCF, JDF, and any
others, and the dictionary manager settings still didn't get moved, or or
just not working.  Any thoughts?  I have a feeling that a lot of JAWS's
buggy behavior will be getting discussed on this list for the coming months
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[JAWS-Users] Re: Windows Media player 11 volume control

2006-12-11 Thread Alan & Terrie Robbins

What are the advantages to the upgrade?  I'm still using version 9

Al

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Yes, that does work. I looked at the JAWS hot key list for Windows Media
player and it said F9 and F10. But you are correct it is now F8 and F9.
Thanks,
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Perhaps with F8 and F9 possible?




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[JAWS-Users] Re: Merge in JAWS 8 not complete

2006-12-11 Thread Walt Smith

 As I've said before never, never, never use the JAWS merge utility. 
It's unreliable at best and the fact that somebody else has used it without 
bad results; or that you've used it in the past without bad results; is 
meaningless. Just copy the files manually. Do _not_ copy .jcf, .jss, .jsb, 
.jkm, or .jsd files. If you have modified scripts, then make the 
modifications over again from scratch (the merge utility won't touch 
scripts, anyway).

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Subject: [JAWS-Users] Merge in JAWS 8 not complete


Hi I did a merge from JAWS 7.0 to 8.  All my settings didn't get changed,
however.

One big thing I've noticed is that all my dictionary manager settings didn't
move to JAWS 8 in MS Outlook 2003.  Maybe not in some other areas as well,
but I've only used JAWS 8 a little so far since I can't stand it.

Isn't the dictionary manager settings in a JDF file?  I've moved all the
Microsoft outlook files in my ENU folder manually, the JCF, JDF, and any
others, and the dictionary manager settings still didn't get moved, or or
just not working.  Any thoughts?  I have a feeling that a lot of JAWS's
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from JAWS users.  Sigh.

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[JAWS-Users] Re: Merge in JAWS 8 not complete

2006-12-11 Thread Alan & Terrie Robbins

Walt,

I'm sure this is good advice but then why does FS make the utility AND
encourage folks that call them to use it?

Al

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 As I've said before never, never, never use the JAWS merge utility.
It's unreliable at best and the fact that somebody else has used it without
bad results; or that you've used it in the past without bad results; is
meaningless. Just copy the files manually. Do _not_ copy .jcf, .jss, .jsb,
.jkm, or .jsd files. If you have modified scripts, then make the
modifications over again from scratch (the merge utility won't touch
scripts, anyway).

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Sent: Monday, December 11, 2006 6:39 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Merge in JAWS 8 not complete


Hi I did a merge from JAWS 7.0 to 8.  All my settings didn't get changed,
however.

One big thing I've noticed is that all my dictionary manager settings didn't
move to JAWS 8 in MS Outlook 2003.  Maybe not in some other areas as well,
but I've only used JAWS 8 a little so far since I can't stand it.

Isn't the dictionary manager settings in a JDF file?  I've moved all the
Microsoft outlook files in my ENU folder manually, the JCF, JDF, and any
others, and the dictionary manager settings still didn't get moved, or or
just not working.  Any thoughts?  I have a feeling that a lot of JAWS's
buggy behavior will be getting discussed on this list for the coming months
from JAWS users.  Sigh.

Chris Feist - The one and only!


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[JAWS-Users] Re: question regarding the programs page

2006-12-11 Thread Steve & Shannon

David,

How can you make your links appear in alphabetical order in the links list? 


Steve & Shannon
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October 11, 2003

 


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Actually that isn't alphabetical, besides anybody should be able to make any
page that way in their links list.  I think it's going to turn out to be
something like what is over there with related programs located under broad
headings such as internet ETC.  Thanks to all who have responded to my
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Why not go alphabetical like jfw lite?

Al






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[JAWS-Users] Re: question regarding the programs page

2006-12-11 Thread John O. Carvalho

I would think that once you place them there then once yiou are done it goes 
in that way.
PEACE
John Carvalho
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>
> David,
>
> How can you make your links appear in alphabetical order in the links 
> list?
>
>
> Steve & Shannon
> Today I marry my best friend.  The one I laugh with, live for, love..
> October 11, 2003
>
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: jaws-users-list@googlegroups.com
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Ferrin
> Sent: Monday, December 11, 2006 5:44 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@googlegroups.com
> Subject: [JAWS-Users] Re: question regarding the programs page
>
>
> Actually that isn't alphabetical, besides anybody should be able to make 
> any
> page that way in their links list.  I think it's going to turn out to be
> something like what is over there with related programs located under 
> broad
> headings such as internet ETC.  Thanks to all who have responded to my
> query.
> David Ferrin
> personal email address
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> - Original Message -
> From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Monday, December 11, 2006 5:39 PM
> Subject: [JAWS-Users] Re: question regarding the programs page
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>
> Why not go alphabetical like jfw lite?
>
> Al
>
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[JAWS-Users] Re: question regarding the programs page

2006-12-11 Thread Walt Smith

If you press TAB while in the links list (INSERT+F7), you eventually come to 
a set of radio buttons. By default, sort in link order is selected, but by 
arrowing down, you can choose to sort in alphabetical order.

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David,

How can you make your links appear in alphabetical order in the links list?

Steve & Shannon


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[JAWS-Users] Multiple JAWS Running

2006-12-11 Thread Bill Gallik

I don't know if anybody else has ever had this happen, but several times in
the recent past I've had multiple sessions of JAWS running simultaneously.
It sounds really cool, one session always "beats" the other to the sound
card so there's this echo effect -- well, at first it's really cool, then it
gets -- shall we say -- to be a BIG PAIN IN THE ASS!!!

So what I've found is that using the + will only completely
shut down one version while the other remains partially deployed.  I say
"partially deployed" because many of the beloved key strokes we use for
navigation are not available.  But by using the +J brings up the
menu whereupon I use the "E" to ask it to exit JAWS.  Whew, RELIEF -- that
echoing really gets to be a bitch after a while!!!

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[JAWS-Users] Re: question regarding the programs page

2006-12-11 Thread Steve & Shannon

Thanks Walt, I didn't realize that you could do this. 


Steve & Shannon
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If you press TAB while in the links list (INSERT+F7), you eventually come to
a set of radio buttons. By default, sort in link order is selected, but by
arrowing down, you can choose to sort in alphabetical order.

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Sent: Monday, December 11, 2006 7:17 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Re: question regarding the programs page


David,

How can you make your links appear in alphabetical order in the links list?

Steve & Shannon




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[JAWS-Users] Re: Windows Media Player

2006-12-11 Thread Bill Gallik

Hailley,

1)  Open up the system's Start Menu.

2)  Open up the "Settings" submenu and activate the Control Panel.

3)  On the Control Panel select and activate the "Folders" item.

4)  You are now in a multi-tab dialog box, go to the "File Types" tab and
follow the dialog prompts accordingly.


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[JAWS-Users] Re: Windows Media Player

2006-12-11 Thread one foxy lady

Um, how does that apply to windows media player?

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>
> Hailley,
>
> 1)  Open up the system's Start Menu.
>
> 2)  Open up the "Settings" submenu and activate the Control Panel.
>
> 3)  On the Control Panel select and activate the "Folders" item.
>
> 4)  You are now in a multi-tab dialog box, go to the "File Types" tab and
> follow the dialog prompts accordingly.
>
> 
> Bill Gallik
> E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> - "Maturity is a bitter disappointment for which no remedy exists, unless
> laughter can be said to remedy anything."
> - Kurt Vonnegut
>
>
>
> >
> 



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[JAWS-Users] Re: Windows Media Player

2006-12-11 Thread one foxy lady

ok never mind I gotcha..thanks

Hailley

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>
> Hailley,
>
> 1)  Open up the system's Start Menu.
>
> 2)  Open up the "Settings" submenu and activate the Control Panel.
>
> 3)  On the Control Panel select and activate the "Folders" item.
>
> 4)  You are now in a multi-tab dialog box, go to the "File Types" tab and
> follow the dialog prompts accordingly.
>
> 
> Bill Gallik
> E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> - "Maturity is a bitter disappointment for which no remedy exists, unless
> laughter can be said to remedy anything."
> - Kurt Vonnegut
>
>
>
> >
> 



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[JAWS-Users] Re: Merge in JAWS 8 not complete

2006-12-11 Thread Walt Smith

Al -

I have no idea, but I don't work for them--I'm just a dumb user who has 
profited from his own and others' mistakes. There was a time that it was 
reliable, but that was several versions ago. If everyone who's had a 
dictionary file, especially, truncated and broken by the merge utility were 
to actually call FS and tell them that the utility broke their file, perhaps 
they'd actually do something about fixing it.

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Walt,

I'm sure this is good advice but then why does FS make the utility AND
encourage folks that call them to use it?

Al


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[JAWS-Users] Re: question regarding the programs page

2006-12-11 Thread Walt Smith

Neither did I until it came up here. 

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Thanks Walt, I didn't realize that you could do this. 

Steve & Shannon


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[JAWS-Users] Re: question regarding the programs page

2006-12-11 Thread David Ferrin

It's been available all along, I just have never used it myself so I almost 
forgot about it.
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Neither did I until it came up here. 

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Thanks Walt, I didn't realize that you could do this.

Steve & Shannon







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[JAWS-Users] Yahoo

2006-12-11 Thread Patti
Hey Gang
I got a problem. I got Jaws 7 and windows XP, and I downloaded Yahoo IM beta, 
but Jaws will not read the message or the contact list.
What can I do to get Yahoo to read  for me.
Can I go back to Yahoo 7, and how can I do that?
Thanks Patti
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[JAWS-Users] Re: Yahoo

2006-12-11 Thread Mich Verrier
hi paddy. i to had a lot of trubble with yahoo 8 and i would sugest going back 
to yahoo 7 and look on the jfwlite page for info about how to make yahoo 
messenger work with jaws aned also to download the program. hth. from Mich 
Verrier from New Liskeard Ontario Canada.
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  Hey Gang
  I got a problem. I got Jaws 7 and windows XP, and I downloaded Yahoo IM beta, 
but Jaws will not read the message or the contact list.
  What can I do to get Yahoo to read  for me.
  Can I go back to Yahoo 7, and how can I do that?
  Thanks Patti
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  is and what one has.

  


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[JAWS-Users] Re: the scripts page is already up

2006-12-11 Thread Victor Gouveia

Hi David,

It might benefit others to let them know that the various programs you have 
on the programs page has scripts available.

For example, if you put up FTP Explorer, and you have scripts available on 
the scripts page, then it might behoove you to put a little comment in that 
same blurb about there being scripts available for that program.

Not sure if I'm being clear as mud or water here, but I hope you get the 
idea.

Victor 



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[JAWS-Users] Re: Merge in JAWS 8 not complete

2006-12-11 Thread Chris Feist

This is the first time the merge utility hasn't worked for me, but it's
definitely not working right.  So are you saying to copy only the JDF file
manually?  Is that the correct file?  Or are you saying that I have no
choice but to reenter all the changes again I made in the dictionary manager
for version 7.0? 

*shutter*

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 As I've said before never, never, never use the JAWS merge utility. 
It's unreliable at best and the fact that somebody else has used it without
bad results; or that you've used it in the past without bad results; is
meaningless. Just copy the files manually. Do _not_ copy .jcf, .jss, .jsb,
.jkm, or .jsd files. If you have modified scripts, then make the
modifications over again from scratch (the merge utility won't touch
scripts, anyway).



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[JAWS-Users] Re: the scripts page is already up

2006-12-11 Thread Patti

Hey Lois,
Can you get a hold of me off line, so you can help me about the clock.
Patti at
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>
> Hi David,
>
> Speaking of the cu cu clock script, I've got them working and really enjoy
> the clock.  Thank you for having it there for us.
>
>
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>
> What I've done was remove the scripts and instructional material regarding
> them and placed all of it on a separate page.  This is in the hope to 
> avoid
> confusion like what occurred last week pertaining to the cu cu clock 
> scripts
> thread.  It's not magic just a little word processing and attention to
> detail.  Other than that nothing has changed as of yet, but it will.
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[JAWS-Users] Yahoo

2006-12-11 Thread Patti
Thanks Guys for your help.
My husband found the link for Yahoo 7, and he downloaded it for me.
Now it is working, because my son is in Iraq and I needed to talk to him.
Thanks again for your help
Patti
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