Re: [JAWS-Users] outlook 2007

[Chris Hallsworth]

That's correct. It also has some new features, like junk mail filtering.

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From: "beccajfan" 
Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2009 3:51 AM
To: 
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] outlook 2007


Hi Chris,
So you said Windows mail is the mail program for Vista. Is that outlook 
Express under a different name?

Sarah

- Original Message - 
From: "Chris Hallsworth" 

To: 
Sent: Monday, June 22, 2009 6:51 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] outlook 2007


Similar to Outlook 2003, but if JAWS 10 kept reading message after 
message

automatically I'd use it, but not at this time as this behaviour isn't
working.

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Sent: Monday, June 22, 2009 9:17 PM
To: 
Subject: [JAWS-Users] outlook 2007


Hi, how accesible is outlook 2007 to jaws 10?
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows Vista and Jaws?

[Donald Marang]

Hi Sarah,

I was not the one that said he was using a Dell 1525 before.  But I am very 
happy with my Dell Inspirion 1525 laptop, running Vista Home Premium.  It 
has 2 GB RAM.  In XP, 2 GB would seem like a lot of memory.  In Vista, 
however, I would not want anything less.  I tend to have several 
applications open at any time, so I am probable not the norm.

Don Marang


- Original Message - 
From: "beccajfan" 

To: 
Sent: Monday, June 22, 2009 10:50 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows Vista and Jaws?


See, and the computer I am looking at has to have the proper ram, cause the
vista already comes installed on the laptop. I told my mom one of the people
writing on here had the dell Inspiron 1525 and I thought she said that was
the one I was looking at. I would assume that it would have proper ram and
memory or they wouldn't be able to sell it.
Sarah

- Original Message - 
From: "tim" 

To: 
Sent: Monday, June 22, 2009 6:31 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows Vista and Jaws?



Those are mostly from those that,
1. Don't get enough ram to do the job.
2. vista ain't xp, but can be customized very well.
3. they don't take the time to learn vista, because again, its not xp.
Got home premium with a 2.8 gig quad cpu, 4 gig
of ram, and haven't had any of the problems most complain about.

At 09:38 PM 6/21/2009, you wrote:

Thanks, everybody for your help.
So why do I hear all this bad stuff then if
Vista is fine. I have heard stories that vista
crashes all the time, and that you are always
getting errors and that Vista was like the worst
opperating system and they never should have
switched from xp. I am just really nervous
because if it isn't working properly when I buy
the new computer then I am not able to do
anythign about it and am stuck with what I have.
How come my friend has so many problems with his
laptop? If you are pretty computer tech as far
as how to run things, then will vista be easy to figure out?
If I do a check for updates under jaws, how will
it give me the latest build if I don't have any sma's or like upgrades 
things.

Thanks,
Sarah

- Original Message - From: "Mark" 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2009 8:30 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows Vista and Jaws?



Hi
I am running vista home addition on my HP
laptop and JAWS 10. I love vista. It took a
little adjusting to figure out how to find
what I want compared to XP but over all I am pleased with the operating 
system.


God bless,
Mark
-- Currently in Pendleton, Eastern Oregon
Regional At Pendleton, Oregon Overcast, 64.0°F Wind:WSW-250° at 18mph gu
- Original Message - From: "beccajfan" 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2009 5:37 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Windows Vista and Jaws?


Hi,
I have a question. My laptop recently broke,
and I am trying to get a new one. I have
relized that most stuf is going towards windows
vista, but I have heard horror stories about
jaws and windows vista. I have also heard some
bad stuff from a few sighted people about
windows vista. However, to get a laptop with xp
on it as people have been sugesting to me costs
like $200 more then just purchasing a laptop with windows vista.
I know one person who has vista, and has had
nothing but problems and claims tha he can't
even use his laptop because Vista is so bad. I
have jaws 10.0.512U and am not sure if that
even works with vista. When I got my jaws I
didn't get an extra vista c.d. with it that
they talk about in the fs cast so I don't even
know if I am upgraded to use vista.
I am very familear with xp, and am not just one
of those go and check my email people. I am on
the computer all the time and am constantly
doing stuff such as browsing the web, syncing
to my phone, putting stuff on my ipod, etc.
Does anybody know anything about Windows Vista,
and do you know if it is still better to get
xp? My mom said that it has to work because fs
says it does on there website, and she said
that noone uses xp anymore and that it is
outdated and that xp is old and that's why it
costs more if you want xp on your computer instead of vista.
Thanks in advance for any suggestions.
Sarah
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Re: [JAWS-Users] FS reader question

[Sherri]

Thanks very much. I couldn't find it in the commands.
- Original Message - 
From: "Brian Lee" 

To: 
Sent: Monday, June 22, 2009 3:19 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] FS reader question



Hello Sherri,

Use CTRL+page up to increase rate of speech, use CTRL+page down to 
decrease rate of speech, and use CTRL+shift+N to get the default rate of 
speech.


Take care.
Brian Lee
brianl...@charter.net
- Original Message - 
From: "Sherri" 

To: 
Sent: Monday, June 22, 2009 12:06 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] FS reader question


Is it possible when listening to a document with FS reader demo to speed 
up the voice? Thanks.

Sherri
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Anyone using Roxio with JAWS?

[Van Der Walt Riana]

Hello Alan,

It depends which version of roxio easy cd creater you have, as some of
the versions are less accessible than others.

Unfortunately I cannot recall which, but I know that a friend used an
earlier version, due to more graphics and thus less accessibility in
some later version and that was already more than two years ago.

If you only want to write data cd's, copy and paste and confirmation
thereof in the normal windows own applications, would still be the
easiest.

Regards

Riana


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[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Alan Dicey
Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2009 4:52 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Anyone using Roxio with JAWS?

Hello Friends,
I have Roxio installed on my XP-Home using JAWS 9.0.56

Anyone else using this program with JAWS, and is it at least somewhat
usable with JAWS?

Thanks for any comments!

Best Regards,
Alan
Miami, Florida
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United States Braille Chess Association - USBCA

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows Vista and Jaws?

[beccajfan]

Thanks,

that is what I used on my XP laptop. I thought it sounded weird that they 
wouldn't have that on vista home but the way the other message was written 
made it sound like you had to have the one with media center or something 
and I wasn't sure.


God Bless,

Sarah

- Original Message - 


From: "Mark" mailto:torgersonena...@gmail.com>>

To: mailto:jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>>

Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2009 12:03 AM

Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows Vista and Jaws?




Hi Sarah,


I use Windows media player for all my audio/cd/mp3 listening. It appears 
to be the same program I have assigned for DVD's. I am using Vista home 
addition.



I hope this helps.







God bless,



Mark


-- Currently in Pendleton, Eastern Oregon Regional At Pendleton, Oregon 
Clear, 54.0°F Wind:E-090° at 9mph<


- Original Message - 



From: "beccajfan" mailto:beccaj...@tconl.com>>


To: >



Sent: Monday, June 22, 2009 8:02 PM



Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows Vista and Jaws?











So, you can't watch dvd's on medcia center or play music on the computer



without premium? Is media center accessible?



Sarah






- Original Message - 


From: "Aiden Gardiner" >


To: >



Sent: Monday, June 22, 2009 9:53 PM



Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows Vista and Jaws?











Vista home premium has windows media centre built in, so if you have a TV



tuner card or a USB adapter, you can use Media centre to watch TV, but it



can also be used to watch DVDs. If all your doing is browsing the net and


sending and receiving emails, then home basic is fine. Media centre is 
the



main feature of premium, but there are some smaller ones too.







Aiden


- Original Message - 



From: "beccajfan" mailto:beccaj...@tconl.com>>


To: >



Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2009 3:38 AM



Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows Vista and Jaws?











Hi Chris,



Thanks for all the advice. Well, the computer I am looking at has vista



home basic. I have heard that there are like six different versions of



vista, but don't know much about all that. So how is the premium version



different? Would I be okay with just the home basic?



Thanks to everyone else who has helped. I also talked to freedom



scientific and the tech there said he uses vista, so I think I am just



going to get the laptop I was looking at yesterdayl.



Sarah






- Original Message - 


From: "Chris Hallsworth" >


To: >



Sent: Monday, June 22, 2009 2:46 AM



Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows Vista and Jaws?










To be honest Sarah, Vista works fine with JAWS, even though personally 
I



find it sluggish on this laptop with 2GB RAM and 1.46GHZ dual core



processor. Now, folks, don't tell me that isn't adequate for Vista. I



know



that, however I can't downgrade to XP due to lack of drivers, plus



Windows



7, although I'm testing it, isn't recommended for the faint hearted as



it's


still in testing phases. Anyway Sarah, back to your question. Vista 
Home



Premium, which is what I have, will work with JAWS 10.0.512 and higher.



It



even works with JAWS 9, but with some stability issues that seemed to



have


been resolved in JAWS 10. You should, at the very least, update Vista 
to



SP2, plus update JAWS to 10.0.1154, which can be done through the check



for



updates feature. In terms of your tasks, Windows Mail is the e-mail



client



for Vista. Internet Explorer 7 is the web browser built into Vista,



although



you should upgrade to IE8. iTunes works fine under Vista, including the


latest (8.2) which now works with JAWS 10.0.1154. I think that's all 
for



now, so hope this helps.







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e-mail: christopher...@googlemail.com 




MSN: ch9...@hotmail.com 



Skype: chrishallsworth7266



Join TAFN by visiting www.tafn.org.uk .







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From: "beccajfan" mailto:beccaj...@tconl.com>>



Sent: Monday, June 22, 2009 1:37 AM


To: >



Subject: [JAWS-Users] Windows Vista and Jaws?







Hi,



I have a question. My laptop recently broke, and I am trying to get a



new



one. I have relized that most stuf is going towards windows vista, but



I



have heard horror stories about jaws and windows vista. I have also



heard



some bad stuff from a few sighted people about windows vista. However,



to



get a laptop with xp on it as people have been sugesting to me costs



like



$200 more then just purchasing a laptop with windows vista.



I know one person who has vista, and has had nothing but problems and


claims tha he

Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows Vista and Jaws?

[Mark]

Hi Sarah,
 I use Windows media player for all my audio/cd/mp3 listening. It appears 
to be the same program I have assigned for DVD's. I am using Vista home 
addition.
 I hope this helps.

God bless,
Mark
-- Currently in Pendleton, Eastern Oregon Regional At Pendleton, Oregon Clear, 
54.0°F Wind:E-090° at 9mph< 
- Original Message - 
From: "beccajfan" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, June 22, 2009 8:02 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows Vista and Jaws?


So, you can't watch dvd's on medcia center or play music on the computer 
without premium? Is media center accessible?
Sarah

- Original Message - 
From: "Aiden Gardiner" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, June 22, 2009 9:53 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows Vista and Jaws?


> Vista home premium has windows media centre built in, so if you have a TV
> tuner card or a USB adapter, you can use Media centre to watch TV, but it
> can also be used to watch DVDs. If all your doing is browsing the net and
> sending and receiving emails, then home basic is fine. Media centre is the
> main feature of premium, but there are some smaller ones too.
>
> Aiden
> - Original Message - 
> From: "beccajfan" 
> To: 
> Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2009 3:38 AM
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows Vista and Jaws?
>
>
>> Hi Chris,
>> Thanks for all the advice. Well, the computer I am looking at has vista
>> home basic. I have heard that there are like six different versions of
>> vista, but don't know much about all that. So how is the premium version
>> different? Would I be okay with just the home basic?
>> Thanks to everyone else who has helped. I also talked to freedom
>> scientific and the tech there said he uses vista, so I think I am just
>> going to get the laptop I was looking at yesterdayl.
>> Sarah
>>
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: "Chris Hallsworth" 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Monday, June 22, 2009 2:46 AM
>> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows Vista and Jaws?
>>
>>
>>> To be honest Sarah, Vista works fine with JAWS, even though personally I
>>> find it sluggish on this laptop with 2GB RAM and 1.46GHZ dual core
>>> processor. Now, folks, don't tell me that isn't adequate for Vista. I
>>> know
>>> that, however I can't downgrade to XP due to lack of drivers, plus
>>> Windows
>>> 7, although I'm testing it, isn't recommended for the faint hearted as
>>> it's
>>> still in testing phases. Anyway Sarah, back to your question. Vista Home
>>> Premium, which is what I have, will work with JAWS 10.0.512 and higher.
>>> It
>>> even works with JAWS 9, but with some stability issues that seemed to
>>> have
>>> been resolved in JAWS 10. You should, at the very least, update Vista to
>>> SP2, plus update JAWS to 10.0.1154, which can be done through the check
>>> for
>>> updates feature. In terms of your tasks, Windows Mail is the e-mail
>>> client
>>> for Vista. Internet Explorer 7 is the web browser built into Vista,
>>> although
>>> you should upgrade to IE8. iTunes works fine under Vista, including the
>>> latest (8.2) which now works with JAWS 10.0.1154. I think that's all for
>>> now, so hope this helps.
>>>
>>> --
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>>> e-mail: christopher...@googlemail.com
>>> MSN: ch9...@hotmail.com
>>> Skype: chrishallsworth7266
>>> Join TAFN by visiting www.tafn.org.uk.
>>>
>>> --
>>> From: "beccajfan" 
>>> Sent: Monday, June 22, 2009 1:37 AM
>>> To: 
>>> Subject: [JAWS-Users] Windows Vista and Jaws?
>>>
 Hi,
 I have a question. My laptop recently broke, and I am trying to get a
 new
 one. I have relized that most stuf is going towards windows vista, but 
 I
 have heard horror stories about jaws and windows vista. I have also
 heard
 some bad stuff from a few sighted people about windows vista. However,
 to
 get a laptop with xp on it as people have been sugesting to me costs
 like
 $200 more then just purchasing a laptop with windows vista.
 I know one person who has vista, and has had nothing but problems and
 claims tha he can't even use his laptop because Vista is so bad. I have
 jaws 10.0.512U and am not sure if that even works with vista. When I 
 got
 my jaws I didn't get an extra vista c.d. with it that they talk about 
 in
 the fs cast so I don't even know if I am upgraded to use vista.
 I am very familear with xp, and am not just one of those go and check 
 my
 email people. I am on the computer all the time and am constantly doing
 stuff such as browsing the web, syncing to my phone, putting stuff on 
 my
 ipod, etc.
 Does anybody know anything about Windows Vista, and do you know if it 
 is
 still better to get xp? My mom said that it has to work because fs says
 it
 does on there website, and she said that noone uses xp anymore and that
 it
 is outdated and that xp is old and that's why it costs more if you want
 xp
 on your computer instead of vista.
 Thanks in advan

Re: [JAWS-Users] Anyone using Roxio with JAWS?

[Sarah Alawami]

It is. I have had to use it when I was in a computer class.   

-Original Message-
From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Alan Dicey
Sent: Monday, June 22, 2009 7:52 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Anyone using Roxio with JAWS?

Hello Friends,
I have Roxio installed on my XP-Home using JAWS 9.0.56

Anyone else using this program with JAWS, and is it at least somewhat usable
with JAWS?

Thanks for any comments!

Best Regards,
Alan
Miami, Florida
Alan Dicey, President

United States Braille Chess Association - USBCA

"Yes, Blind or Visually Impaired People Can, and Do, Play Chess!!!"

United States Braille Chess Association Home Page:
http://www.crisscrosstech.com/usbca/

 
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows Vista and Jaws?

[beccajfan]

Also what do you mean? How do you have a usb adapter to watch tv? I don't 
have a tv tuner card and don't think they come with new computers? Don't you 
have to buy them separately?

Sarah

- Original Message - 
From: "Aiden Gardiner" 

To: 
Sent: Monday, June 22, 2009 9:53 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows Vista and Jaws?



Vista home premium has windows media centre built in, so if you have a TV
tuner card or a USB adapter, you can use Media centre to watch TV, but it
can also be used to watch DVDs. If all your doing is browsing the net and
sending and receiving emails, then home basic is fine. Media centre is the
main feature of premium, but there are some smaller ones too.

Aiden
- Original Message - 
From: "beccajfan" 

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2009 3:38 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows Vista and Jaws?



Hi Chris,
Thanks for all the advice. Well, the computer I am looking at has vista
home basic. I have heard that there are like six different versions of
vista, but don't know much about all that. So how is the premium version
different? Would I be okay with just the home basic?
Thanks to everyone else who has helped. I also talked to freedom
scientific and the tech there said he uses vista, so I think I am just
going to get the laptop I was looking at yesterdayl.
Sarah

- Original Message - 
From: "Chris Hallsworth" 

To: 
Sent: Monday, June 22, 2009 2:46 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows Vista and Jaws?



To be honest Sarah, Vista works fine with JAWS, even though personally I
find it sluggish on this laptop with 2GB RAM and 1.46GHZ dual core
processor. Now, folks, don't tell me that isn't adequate for Vista. I
know
that, however I can't downgrade to XP due to lack of drivers, plus
Windows
7, although I'm testing it, isn't recommended for the faint hearted as
it's
still in testing phases. Anyway Sarah, back to your question. Vista Home
Premium, which is what I have, will work with JAWS 10.0.512 and higher.
It
even works with JAWS 9, but with some stability issues that seemed to
have
been resolved in JAWS 10. You should, at the very least, update Vista to
SP2, plus update JAWS to 10.0.1154, which can be done through the check
for
updates feature. In terms of your tasks, Windows Mail is the e-mail
client
for Vista. Internet Explorer 7 is the web browser built into Vista,
although
you should upgrade to IE8. iTunes works fine under Vista, including the
latest (8.2) which now works with JAWS 10.0.1154. I think that's all for
now, so hope this helps.

--
Chris Hallsworth
e-mail: christopher...@googlemail.com
MSN: ch9...@hotmail.com
Skype: chrishallsworth7266
Join TAFN by visiting www.tafn.org.uk.

--
From: "beccajfan" 
Sent: Monday, June 22, 2009 1:37 AM
To: 
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Windows Vista and Jaws?


Hi,
I have a question. My laptop recently broke, and I am trying to get a
new
one. I have relized that most stuf is going towards windows vista, but 
I

have heard horror stories about jaws and windows vista. I have also
heard
some bad stuff from a few sighted people about windows vista. However,
to
get a laptop with xp on it as people have been sugesting to me costs
like
$200 more then just purchasing a laptop with windows vista.
I know one person who has vista, and has had nothing but problems and
claims tha he can't even use his laptop because Vista is so bad. I have
jaws 10.0.512U and am not sure if that even works with vista. When I 
got
my jaws I didn't get an extra vista c.d. with it that they talk about 
in

the fs cast so I don't even know if I am upgraded to use vista.
I am very familear with xp, and am not just one of those go and check 
my

email people. I am on the computer all the time and am constantly doing
stuff such as browsing the web, syncing to my phone, putting stuff on 
my

ipod, etc.
Does anybody know anything about Windows Vista, and do you know if it 
is

still better to get xp? My mom said that it has to work because fs says
it
does on there website, and she said that noone uses xp anymore and that
it
is outdated and that xp is old and that's why it costs more if you want
xp
on your computer instead of vista.
Thanks in advance for any suggestions.
Sarah
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows Vista and Jaws?

[beccajfan]

So, you can't watch dvd's on medcia center or play music on the computer 
without premium? Is media center accessible?

Sarah

- Original Message - 
From: "Aiden Gardiner" 

To: 
Sent: Monday, June 22, 2009 9:53 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows Vista and Jaws?



Vista home premium has windows media centre built in, so if you have a TV
tuner card or a USB adapter, you can use Media centre to watch TV, but it
can also be used to watch DVDs. If all your doing is browsing the net and
sending and receiving emails, then home basic is fine. Media centre is the
main feature of premium, but there are some smaller ones too.

Aiden
- Original Message - 
From: "beccajfan" 

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2009 3:38 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows Vista and Jaws?



Hi Chris,
Thanks for all the advice. Well, the computer I am looking at has vista
home basic. I have heard that there are like six different versions of
vista, but don't know much about all that. So how is the premium version
different? Would I be okay with just the home basic?
Thanks to everyone else who has helped. I also talked to freedom
scientific and the tech there said he uses vista, so I think I am just
going to get the laptop I was looking at yesterdayl.
Sarah

- Original Message - 
From: "Chris Hallsworth" 

To: 
Sent: Monday, June 22, 2009 2:46 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows Vista and Jaws?



To be honest Sarah, Vista works fine with JAWS, even though personally I
find it sluggish on this laptop with 2GB RAM and 1.46GHZ dual core
processor. Now, folks, don't tell me that isn't adequate for Vista. I
know
that, however I can't downgrade to XP due to lack of drivers, plus
Windows
7, although I'm testing it, isn't recommended for the faint hearted as
it's
still in testing phases. Anyway Sarah, back to your question. Vista Home
Premium, which is what I have, will work with JAWS 10.0.512 and higher.
It
even works with JAWS 9, but with some stability issues that seemed to
have
been resolved in JAWS 10. You should, at the very least, update Vista to
SP2, plus update JAWS to 10.0.1154, which can be done through the check
for
updates feature. In terms of your tasks, Windows Mail is the e-mail
client
for Vista. Internet Explorer 7 is the web browser built into Vista,
although
you should upgrade to IE8. iTunes works fine under Vista, including the
latest (8.2) which now works with JAWS 10.0.1154. I think that's all for
now, so hope this helps.

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From: "beccajfan" 
Sent: Monday, June 22, 2009 1:37 AM
To: 
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Windows Vista and Jaws?


Hi,
I have a question. My laptop recently broke, and I am trying to get a
new
one. I have relized that most stuf is going towards windows vista, but 
I

have heard horror stories about jaws and windows vista. I have also
heard
some bad stuff from a few sighted people about windows vista. However,
to
get a laptop with xp on it as people have been sugesting to me costs
like
$200 more then just purchasing a laptop with windows vista.
I know one person who has vista, and has had nothing but problems and
claims tha he can't even use his laptop because Vista is so bad. I have
jaws 10.0.512U and am not sure if that even works with vista. When I 
got
my jaws I didn't get an extra vista c.d. with it that they talk about 
in

the fs cast so I don't even know if I am upgraded to use vista.
I am very familear with xp, and am not just one of those go and check 
my

email people. I am on the computer all the time and am constantly doing
stuff such as browsing the web, syncing to my phone, putting stuff on 
my

ipod, etc.
Does anybody know anything about Windows Vista, and do you know if it 
is

still better to get xp? My mom said that it has to work because fs says
it
does on there website, and she said that noone uses xp anymore and that
it
is outdated and that xp is old and that's why it costs more if you want
xp
on your computer instead of vista.
Thanks in advance for any suggestions.
Sarah
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows Vista and Jaws?

[Aiden Gardiner]

Vista home premium has windows media centre built in, so if you have a TV 
tuner card or a USB adapter, you can use Media centre to watch TV, but it 
can also be used to watch DVDs. If all your doing is browsing the net and 
sending and receiving emails, then home basic is fine. Media centre is the 
main feature of premium, but there are some smaller ones too.


Aiden
- Original Message - 
From: "beccajfan" 

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2009 3:38 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows Vista and Jaws?



Hi Chris,
Thanks for all the advice. Well, the computer I am looking at has vista 
home basic. I have heard that there are like six different versions of 
vista, but don't know much about all that. So how is the premium version 
different? Would I be okay with just the home basic?
Thanks to everyone else who has helped. I also talked to freedom 
scientific and the tech there said he uses vista, so I think I am just 
going to get the laptop I was looking at yesterdayl.

Sarah

- Original Message - 
From: "Chris Hallsworth" 

To: 
Sent: Monday, June 22, 2009 2:46 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows Vista and Jaws?



To be honest Sarah, Vista works fine with JAWS, even though personally I
find it sluggish on this laptop with 2GB RAM and 1.46GHZ dual core
processor. Now, folks, don't tell me that isn't adequate for Vista. I 
know
that, however I can't downgrade to XP due to lack of drivers, plus 
Windows
7, although I'm testing it, isn't recommended for the faint hearted as 
it's

still in testing phases. Anyway Sarah, back to your question. Vista Home
Premium, which is what I have, will work with JAWS 10.0.512 and higher. 
It
even works with JAWS 9, but with some stability issues that seemed to 
have

been resolved in JAWS 10. You should, at the very least, update Vista to
SP2, plus update JAWS to 10.0.1154, which can be done through the check 
for
updates feature. In terms of your tasks, Windows Mail is the e-mail 
client
for Vista. Internet Explorer 7 is the web browser built into Vista, 
although

you should upgrade to IE8. iTunes works fine under Vista, including the
latest (8.2) which now works with JAWS 10.0.1154. I think that's all for
now, so hope this helps.

--
Chris Hallsworth
e-mail: christopher...@googlemail.com
MSN: ch9...@hotmail.com
Skype: chrishallsworth7266
Join TAFN by visiting www.tafn.org.uk.

--
From: "beccajfan" 
Sent: Monday, June 22, 2009 1:37 AM
To: 
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Windows Vista and Jaws?


Hi,
I have a question. My laptop recently broke, and I am trying to get a 
new

one. I have relized that most stuf is going towards windows vista, but I
have heard horror stories about jaws and windows vista. I have also 
heard
some bad stuff from a few sighted people about windows vista. However, 
to
get a laptop with xp on it as people have been sugesting to me costs 
like

$200 more then just purchasing a laptop with windows vista.
I know one person who has vista, and has had nothing but problems and
claims tha he can't even use his laptop because Vista is so bad. I have
jaws 10.0.512U and am not sure if that even works with vista. When I got
my jaws I didn't get an extra vista c.d. with it that they talk about in
the fs cast so I don't even know if I am upgraded to use vista.
I am very familear with xp, and am not just one of those go and check my
email people. I am on the computer all the time and am constantly doing
stuff such as browsing the web, syncing to my phone, putting stuff on my
ipod, etc.
Does anybody know anything about Windows Vista, and do you know if it is
still better to get xp? My mom said that it has to work because fs says 
it
does on there website, and she said that noone uses xp anymore and that 
it
is outdated and that xp is old and that's why it costs more if you want 
xp

on your computer instead of vista.
Thanks in advance for any suggestions.
Sarah
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[JAWS-Users] Anyone using Roxio with JAWS?

[Alan Dicey]

Hello Friends,
I have Roxio installed on my XP-Home using JAWS 9.0.56

Anyone else using this program with JAWS, and is it at least somewhat usable 
with JAWS?

Thanks for any comments!

Best Regards,
Alan
Miami, Florida
Alan Dicey, President

United States Braille Chess Association - USBCA

"Yes, Blind or Visually Impaired People Can, and Do, Play Chess!!!"

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Re: [JAWS-Users] outlook 2007

[beccajfan]

Hi Chris,
So you said Windows mail is the mail program for Vista. Is that outlook 
Express under a different name?

Sarah

- Original Message - 
From: "Chris Hallsworth" 

To: 
Sent: Monday, June 22, 2009 6:51 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] outlook 2007



Similar to Outlook 2003, but if JAWS 10 kept reading message after message
automatically I'd use it, but not at this time as this behaviour isn't
working.

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Sent: Monday, June 22, 2009 9:17 PM
To: 
Subject: [JAWS-Users] outlook 2007


Hi, how accesible is outlook 2007 to jaws 10?
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows Vista and Jaws?

[beccajfan]

See, and the computer I am looking at has to have the proper ram, cause the 
vista already comes installed on the laptop. I told my mom one of the people 
writing on here had the dell Inspiron 1525 and I thought she said that was 
the one I was looking at. I would assume that it would have proper ram and 
memory or they wouldn't be able to sell it.

Sarah

- Original Message - 
From: "tim" 

To: 
Sent: Monday, June 22, 2009 6:31 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows Vista and Jaws?



Those are mostly from those that,
1. Don't get enough ram to do the job.
2. vista ain't xp, but can be customized very well.
3. they don't take the time to learn vista, because again, its not xp.
Got home premium with a 2.8 gig quad cpu, 4 gig
of ram, and haven't had any of the problems most complain about.

At 09:38 PM 6/21/2009, you wrote:

Thanks, everybody for your help.
So why do I hear all this bad stuff then if
Vista is fine. I have heard stories that vista
crashes all the time, and that you are always
getting errors and that Vista was like the worst
opperating system and they never should have
switched from xp. I am just really nervous
because if it isn't working properly when I buy
the new computer then I am not able to do
anythign about it and am stuck with what I have.
How come my friend has so many problems with his
laptop? If you are pretty computer tech as far
as how to run things, then will vista be easy to figure out?
If I do a check for updates under jaws, how will
it give me the latest build if I don't have any sma's or like upgrades 
things.

Thanks,
Sarah

- Original Message - From: "Mark" 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2009 8:30 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows Vista and Jaws?



Hi
I am running vista home addition on my HP
laptop and JAWS 10. I love vista. It took a
little adjusting to figure out how to find
what I want compared to XP but over all I am pleased with the operating 
system.


God bless,
Mark
-- Currently in Pendleton, Eastern Oregon
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- Original Message - From: "beccajfan" 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2009 5:37 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Windows Vista and Jaws?


Hi,
I have a question. My laptop recently broke,
and I am trying to get a new one. I have
relized that most stuf is going towards windows
vista, but I have heard horror stories about
jaws and windows vista. I have also heard some
bad stuff from a few sighted people about
windows vista. However, to get a laptop with xp
on it as people have been sugesting to me costs
like $200 more then just purchasing a laptop with windows vista.
I know one person who has vista, and has had
nothing but problems and claims tha he can't
even use his laptop because Vista is so bad. I
have jaws 10.0.512U and am not sure if that
even works with vista. When I got my jaws I
didn't get an extra vista c.d. with it that
they talk about in the fs cast so I don't even
know if I am upgraded to use vista.
I am very familear with xp, and am not just one
of those go and check my email people. I am on
the computer all the time and am constantly
doing stuff such as browsing the web, syncing
to my phone, putting stuff on my ipod, etc.
Does anybody know anything about Windows Vista,
and do you know if it is still better to get
xp? My mom said that it has to work because fs
says it does on there website, and she said
that noone uses xp anymore and that it is
outdated and that xp is old and that's why it
costs more if you want xp on your computer instead of vista.
Thanks in advance for any suggestions.
Sarah
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows Vista and Jaws?

[beccajfan]

Hi,
Windows 7 sounds nice, except that I have no sma's and won't be able to 
afford the next version of jwas that would have to come out in order to make 
win7 work with the screen reader. Also, there is the fact that now I don't 
have a computer cause my laptop isn't working right and so I am using my 
internship computer to emial but can't really do much else on it as far as 
like with my ipod and other stuff because I am only supposed to use it for 
when I get my internship.

Thanks for the advice.
Sarah

- Original Message - 
From: "Donald Marang" 

To: 
Sent: Monday, June 22, 2009 5:30 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows Vista and Jaws?



   Hi Sarah,

Perhaps you might want to wait a few days.  I have heard that Best Buy and
probably others will be offering a free Windows 7 upgrade with a purchase 
of
a new computer, starting June 26.  I have also heard a pre-announcement 
that
upgrades for others using Vista Home Premium will be available for 
preorder

for only $50!
This also might be the upgrade price for an upgrade from XP to Windows 7,
since Microsoft would like to get individuals and corporations who have
stayed clear of Vista and over forward!  Vista is bloated and was not 
ready

when it was first released.  That gave it a bad reputation.  It has gotten
much better and I like it better than
XP now.  However, Vista still requires more hardware than it should!  It
sounds like Windows solves a;all these problems without causing any
compatibility issues.  This is historic!  It is the first time that
Microsoft has ever announced a new operating system that is smaller and
requires less hardware than the previous version!  It sounds great and I
plan on updating.

Don Marang


- Original Message - 
From: "beccajfan" 

To: 
Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2009 11:19 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows Vista and Jaws?



Wow! See, those are the kidns of stories I have heard about. I had a
sighted person tell me that vista crashed all the time on him. When doesn
windows7 come out?
That is what I am scaredc about. I mean I like xp and haven't had any
problems, and I agree that you have to move with the technology, but I
don't want to have a computer that I can't even use that I have spent a
bunch of money on, but at the same time, do 't have the extra $200 to pay
for the transition option to get an xp computer. Windows Vista computers
are now cheaper then xp ones.
Sarah

- Original Message - 
From: "Dale Leavens" 

To: 
Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2009 10:10 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows Vista and Jaws?



I have had Vista since last August and twice now it has gone down with a
corrupt operating system failure. Unfortunately that wipes Jaws too and
although there is a recovery feature available on the Lenovo computers
you
need to access it through the BIOS which doesn't talk even when an
operating
system isn't corrupt.

I had the option at the time of XP Pro which I didn't choose it just
seems
wrong not to move with the evolving technology. Apparently Windows 7 
will

be
a much lighter and more efficient operating system. Go figure, an
operating
system which doesn't consume the bulk of the resources of your computer.



- Original Message - 
From: 

To: 
Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2009 9:38 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows Vista and Jaws?


hmmm, vista isn't the bear people let it to be, i have a vist home 
basic

dell laptop inspiron 1525 and haven't had any trouble at all, it just
takes a bit to get used to the differences in the operating system, but
everything works just fine.

Legend has it that on Sunday 6/21/2009 07:37 PM, beccajfan said:

Hi,
I have a question. My laptop recently broke, and I am trying to get a
new
one. I have relized that most stuf is going towards windows vista, but 
I

have heard horror stories about jaws and windows vista. I have also
heard
some bad stuff from a few sighted people about windows vista. However,
to
get a laptop with xp on it as people have been sugesting to me costs
like
$200 more then just purchasing a laptop with windows vista.
I know one person who has vista, and has had nothing but problems and
claims tha he can't even use his laptop because Vista is so bad. I have
jaws 10.0.512U and am not sure if that even works with vista. When I 
got
my jaws I didn't get an extra vista c.d. with it that they talk about 
in

the fs cast so I don't even know if I am upgraded to use vista.
I am very familear with xp, and am not just one of those go and check 
my

email people. I am on the computer all the time and am constantly doing
stuff such as browsing the web, syncing to my phone, putting stuff on 
my

ipod, etc.
Does anybody know anything about Windows Vista, and do you know if it 
is

still better to get xp? My mom said that it has to work because fs says
it
does on there website, and she said that noone uses xp anymore and that
it
is outdated and that xp is old and that's why it costs more if you want
xp
on your computer instead of vist

Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws and Avg

[beccajfan]

Well, I have found that AVG doesn't work as well as the paid versions. My 
sister got me to use Norton and it seems to work very well. It is not as bad 
as avg and doesn't scan all the time. It seems to offer more protection.
I am not suggesting that avg is bad, because I know a lot of people who use 
it, and I am using it on my computer for my internship stuff.

Sarah

- Original Message - 
From: "Marilyn Walker" 

To: 
Sent: Monday, June 22, 2009 4:07 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws and Avg



Glenn, avg free slows down everything and scans practically all morning
after I turn on the computer.  I'm wondering whether or not the paid 
version
of 8.5 is as annoying, considering that the paid version allows the user 
to

set scan times, etc.  marilyn
- Original Message - 
From: "Glenn Lemacher" 

To: "Jaws list" 
Sent: Monday, June 22, 2009 3:56 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Jaws and Avg


: I'm using Jaws 10 on my laptop and ever since I put AVG version 8 on it 
it

: takes Jaws for ever to come up when booting the computer.Anyone have an
idea
: as to why.
:
:
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows Vista and Jaws?

[beccajfan]

Hi Derek,
I think I agree with you. People in my family are always telling me how hard 
computer stuff is, and then when you show them they are like that was easy. 
Or like someone says a program doesn't work like you are talking about and 
then you get it to work and there like "It didn't do that for me."

Lol.
Sarah

- Original Message - 
From: "Derek Roberts" 

To: 
Sent: Monday, June 22, 2009 10:08 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows Vista and Jaws?



I don't think it's that the thing is filled with errors, I think it's some
of the people operating it. *grins* seriously though, they jsut get pissed
that one small thing didn't work or that they can't find something they
could find in xp.
"Debugging is twice as hard as writing the code in the first place.
Therefore, if you write the code as cleverly as possible, you are,
by definition, not smart enough to debug it." - Brian W. Kernighan

- Original Message - 
From: "beccajfan" 

To: 
Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2009 9:38 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows Vista and Jaws?


Thanks, everybody for your help.
So why do I hear all this bad stuff then if Vista is fine. I have heard
stories that vista crashes all the time, and that you are always getting
errors and that Vista was like the worst opperating system and they never
should have switched from xp. I am just really nervous because if it isn't
working properly when I buy the new computer then I am not able to do
anythign about it and am stuck with what I have.
How come my friend has so many problems with his laptop? If you are pretty
computer tech as far as how to run things, then will vista be easy to 
figure

out?
If I do a check for updates under jaws, how will it give me the latest 
build

if I don't have any sma's or like upgrades things.
Thanks,
Sarah

- Original Message - 
From: "Mark" 

To: 
Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2009 8:30 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows Vista and Jaws?



Hi
I am running vista home addition on my HP laptop and JAWS 10. I love
vista. It took a little adjusting to figure out how to find what I want
compared to XP but over all I am pleased with the operating system.

God bless,
Mark
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- Original Message - 
From: "beccajfan" 

To: 
Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2009 5:37 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Windows Vista and Jaws?


Hi,
I have a question. My laptop recently broke, and I am trying to get a new
one. I have relized that most stuf is going towards windows vista, but I
have heard horror stories about jaws and windows vista. I have also heard
some bad stuff from a few sighted people about windows vista. However, to
get a laptop with xp on it as people have been sugesting to me costs like
$200 more then just purchasing a laptop with windows vista.
I know one person who has vista, and has had nothing but problems and
claims tha he can't even use his laptop because Vista is so bad. I have
jaws 10.0.512U and am not sure if that even works with vista. When I got
my jaws I didn't get an extra vista c.d. with it that they talk about in
the fs cast so I don't even know if I am upgraded to use vista.
I am very familear with xp, and am not just one of those go and check my
email people. I am on the computer all the time and am constantly doing
stuff such as browsing the web, syncing to my phone, putting stuff on my
ipod, etc.
Does anybody know anything about Windows Vista, and do you know if it is
still better to get xp? My mom said that it has to work because fs says 
it
does on there website, and she said that noone uses xp anymore and that 
it
is outdated and that xp is old and that's why it costs more if you want 
xp

on your computer instead of vista.
Thanks in advance for any suggestions.
Sarah
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows Vista and Jaws?

[beccajfan]

Hi Chris,
Thanks for all the advice. Well, the computer I am looking at has vista home 
basic. I have heard that there are like six different versions of vista, but 
don't know much about all that. So how is the premium version different? 
Would I be okay with just the home basic?
Thanks to everyone else who has helped. I also talked to freedom scientific 
and the tech there said he uses vista, so I think I am just going to get the 
laptop I was looking at yesterdayl.

Sarah

- Original Message - 
From: "Chris Hallsworth" 

To: 
Sent: Monday, June 22, 2009 2:46 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows Vista and Jaws?



To be honest Sarah, Vista works fine with JAWS, even though personally I
find it sluggish on this laptop with 2GB RAM and 1.46GHZ dual core
processor. Now, folks, don't tell me that isn't adequate for Vista. I know
that, however I can't downgrade to XP due to lack of drivers, plus Windows
7, although I'm testing it, isn't recommended for the faint hearted as 
it's

still in testing phases. Anyway Sarah, back to your question. Vista Home
Premium, which is what I have, will work with JAWS 10.0.512 and higher. It
even works with JAWS 9, but with some stability issues that seemed to have
been resolved in JAWS 10. You should, at the very least, update Vista to
SP2, plus update JAWS to 10.0.1154, which can be done through the check 
for

updates feature. In terms of your tasks, Windows Mail is the e-mail client
for Vista. Internet Explorer 7 is the web browser built into Vista, 
although

you should upgrade to IE8. iTunes works fine under Vista, including the
latest (8.2) which now works with JAWS 10.0.1154. I think that's all for
now, so hope this helps.

--
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e-mail: christopher...@googlemail.com
MSN: ch9...@hotmail.com
Skype: chrishallsworth7266
Join TAFN by visiting www.tafn.org.uk.

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From: "beccajfan" 
Sent: Monday, June 22, 2009 1:37 AM
To: 
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Windows Vista and Jaws?


Hi,
I have a question. My laptop recently broke, and I am trying to get a new
one. I have relized that most stuf is going towards windows vista, but I
have heard horror stories about jaws and windows vista. I have also heard
some bad stuff from a few sighted people about windows vista. However, to
get a laptop with xp on it as people have been sugesting to me costs like
$200 more then just purchasing a laptop with windows vista.
I know one person who has vista, and has had nothing but problems and
claims tha he can't even use his laptop because Vista is so bad. I have
jaws 10.0.512U and am not sure if that even works with vista. When I got
my jaws I didn't get an extra vista c.d. with it that they talk about in
the fs cast so I don't even know if I am upgraded to use vista.
I am very familear with xp, and am not just one of those go and check my
email people. I am on the computer all the time and am constantly doing
stuff such as browsing the web, syncing to my phone, putting stuff on my
ipod, etc.
Does anybody know anything about Windows Vista, and do you know if it is
still better to get xp? My mom said that it has to work because fs says 
it
does on there website, and she said that noone uses xp anymore and that 
it
is outdated and that xp is old and that's why it costs more if you want 
xp

on your computer instead of vista.
Thanks in advance for any suggestions.
Sarah
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Re: [JAWS-Users] dvd audio extractor

[Victor]

Hi Vicki,

Sorry about this, I just saw your message in my bulk folder.

I've thought you might be interested in a tutorial I wrote up a few months 
ago on using DVD Audio Extractor with Jaws.  I've pasted it below.

It can be found on the Jaws users page under the tips and tricks page, but 
it's pasted here for your reference.

***Begin Tutorial***

I am going to detail how I do things with this program, and not how things 
are supposed to be done, just in case someone decides that I'm doing 
something wrong.

For one thing, the program is pretty much completely accessible, so there 
are no specialty keystrokes you need to know to rip a DVD using Audio 
Extractor.

Having said that, the following is what I do when confronted with a DVD I 
wish to rip.

I load the DVD in the CD tray of my drive, close it, and let it do it's 
thing.

Depending on how you have your autoplay functions set, you will either get a 
pop up window asking you what you want to do with the DVD or you may get 
nothing.  If you get the autoplay dialog box, just select do nothing, and 
tab to the ok button.

At this point, I will open up Any DVD, and let it do it's thing by decoding 
the DVD.  You should get a message that Any DVD is examining the disc, 
please wait, your disc will be available shortly.

Once the tray stops spinning, you'll know the DVD has been decoded by Any 
DVD.

At this point, you can go ahead and open up DVD Audio Extractor.

Once the program opens up, you'll here the DVD spin in the drive again as 
DVD Audio Extractor looks for the DVD that is available in any of your 
drives.

You should automatically land on the help button, at which point you will 
want to tab to the combo box to select the DVD drive you've placed the disc 
into.  The program should have selected the drive already and be listed in 
the combo box, but if it hasn't, then arrow up or down to the drive to 
select it.

Once selected, you tab once and you'll land on the refresh button.

If I'm ripping a second DVD after ripping the first, I will press the 
spacebar on this button, just to make sure the track listing is updated to 
reflect the new DVD in the tray.  You never can be sure with software.

Once you do this, tab once and you'll land on the track listing of the DVD.

>From my experience, I have never seen track listings like Lee has mentioned 
in his messages for ripping with this program.

I have never been able to right arrow to the alternate language, and so find 
the tracks are listed by language, as opposed as in sections.

What I mean by this is, when Jaws speaks out the track number, it will have 
the language somewhere in the track listing.  It will list English, or 
Francais or Espanol, or some other language in the title of the track.

I have never personally seen a DVD with audio description, so I really can't 
say what an audio description track would look like.

Having said that, I would imagine that the title of the track would indicate 
something other than the language.

As another example, I have had DVD movies, like the Fast and the Furious 
that have had multiple angles to a particular scene, and this, too, is 
indicated in the track title.

It will be listed as Angle 1 or Angle 2 or something along those lines.

Suffice it to say, if you look for these language names, you will be given 
some idea of what language you are selecting.

Keep in mind that this is not always the case, as some DVD titles are not 
authored correctly.

During the writing of this tutorial, I used a movie called March of the 
Penguins.  The DVD case comes with two DVD's.  Presumably one DVD is the 
English version, while the second DVD is the French version.

One would expect that the English version would have the word English in the 
track titles, and the French version would have the word Francais, however, 
this is not the case.  The first DVD has only five track listings, and three 
of them are listed as French titles, and two listed as English.

When I slip in the second DVD, again, there are only five track titles, but 
each of them are listed as French.  I have confirmed the one with all the 
tracks listed as French are indeed the French version of the movie, but the 
first one, even though it's listed as French, turned out to be the English 
version, with Morgan Freeman narrating the movie, as usual.

Suffice it to say, I am hoping that this is not the case with all of the 
DVD's one buys.

Either way, the program usually does a good job of checking which are the 
main movie titles, and which are not, and so, if you're just looking to rip 
the movie proper, you shouldn't have to mess around with the track listings. 
I'll explain in a bit how you can make sure that the tracks selected are the 
right ones.

If you wish to rip more than just the movie, such as DVD extras and the 
like, you should arrow down the list of tracks, find out which are checked 
and which are not.  Obviously, the ones that are not checked you would use 
the spacebar

Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws and Avg

[Patricia Dunbar]

If you have the paid version of AVG why are you still using window's 
firewall?


I agree with Gerald here, the scan does take about an hour for me too and 
I've not noticed any slow downs either.


The best way to put your registeration number in the edit area is to copy 
and paste it, which you probably received in an email that they sent you 
when you purchased the product online?


- Original Message - 
From: "Marilyn Walker" 

To: 
Sent: Monday, June 22, 2009 7:45 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws and Avg


Gerald, as for the paid version, I paid for it and have had no luck 
getting

it installed.  I exited everything except windows firewall but it will not
accept my registration number.  I even got a new registration number and 
it
doesn't work either.  I have had so many problems since I installed jaws 
10,

that it can't be just coincidence.  marilyn
- Original Message - 
From: "Gerald Levy" 

To: 
Sent: Monday, June 22, 2009 5:32 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws and Avg


:
: I use the paid version of AVG 8.5 and have no problems with scans.  It
takes
: about an hour to run a complete scan on my computer, and it does not 
seem

to
: slow down other running applications.
:
: Gerald
: - Original Message - 
: From: "Marilyn Walker" 

: To: 
: Sent: Monday, June 22, 2009 5:07 PM
: Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws and Avg
:
:
: > Glenn, avg free slows down everything and scans practically all 
morning

: > after I turn on the computer.  I'm wondering whether or not the paid
: > version
: > of 8.5 is as annoying, considering that the paid version allows the 
user

: > to
: > set scan times, etc.  marilyn
: > - Original Message - 
: > From: "Glenn Lemacher" 

: > To: "Jaws list" 
: > Sent: Monday, June 22, 2009 3:56 PM
: > Subject: [JAWS-Users] Jaws and Avg
: >
: >
: > : I'm using Jaws 10 on my laptop and ever since I put AVG version 8 on
it
: > it
: > : takes Jaws for ever to come up when booting the computer.Anyone have
an
: > idea
: > : as to why.
: > :
: > :
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Re: [JAWS-Users] No Speech

[Patricia Dunbar]

Trust me I have looked at everything I know to figure out why this occurs.
A system restore was performed this evening and he is been restored again.
There is no sound recording going on from him, I do not use his computer.
Allen sometimes downloads things he shouldn't and that sometimes get's him 
into trouble...
His computer for the most part is so set up differently from mine that a lot 
of times I have to go see how it is on my computer when it comes to 
menus...settings...
Sometimes his computer will not keep certain settings as in his folders in 
list view, his abilitiy to use window's cut, copy and paste commands, his 
Jaws verbosity will always revert back to advanced mode and trust me he is 
far from being an advance jaws user..
The Quick mix porgram did nothing to correct this recent problem and we 
installed it on his computer for that very reason.

Thanks for you help..

Patricia
- Original Message - 
From: "Flor Lynch" 

To: 
Sent: Monday, June 22, 2009 4:42 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] No Speech



Does you/he use a sound recording program, or any other program that would
take over the sounds?  If this is going to be a frequent occurrence, you
might need to become acquainted with whatever the cause of this situation
is.  otherwise, you will need sight to system-restore.

- Original Message - 
From: "Patricia Dunbar" 

To: 
Sent: Monday, June 22, 2009 10:10 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] No Speech


I did do all of that save the last part regarding Jaws here.
I had those same steps from David Whitehead post when this happened the 
last

time and I did the first part of your message after doing the run dialogue
sndvol32 part, but still no sounds or speech.
I seem to recall we had to do a system restore to bring it all back sigh.

- Original Message - 

From: "Flor Lynch" 

To: 
Sent: Monday, June 22, 2009 4:04 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] No Speech



>From what you wrote below, if that is exactly what you did, it appears
>you
did not complete the sequence.  If you have no sound (and that is 
separate

from JAWS No Speech):  In the Run dialog, type sndvol32; then tab once,
and
hit the home key to increase master Volume to 100%; and then tab once to
the
Mute All checkbox, which should be unchecked.  press the spacebar to
change
its state to unchecked.  perhaps now sound is restored.  You can now
adjust
the volume, taking care *at all times* not to check any of the mute
checkboxes in these dialogues.

If you have sound, but not JAWS speech:  To get JAWS speech, press
JAWSKey+v, and then the end key, and then the enter key.  that's a quick
way.

- Original Message - 
From: "Patricia Dunbar" 

To: "Users of Jaws" 
Sent: Monday, June 22, 2009 4:44 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] No Speech


Hello,

We seem to have encountered once again Allen Dunbar has managed somehow 
to

not have any speech on his computer again...

I was smart this time and saved the instructions from the time before and
have tried the Run command typing the, sndvol32 and enter, but still
nothing..

Now is there any way at all to do a system's restore without speech?

Thanks,

Patricia


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows Vista and Jaws?

[Donald Marang]

I hope so, because that is what I have!  I am not sure there will be any 
more details until the 26th when the offers start.  I have heard that 
upgrades of the Pro versions will be $99.  I think the rules will be 
somewhat relaxed.  Microsoft learned a lot by Vista's bad reputation.  I 
think their marketing plan will be to hype that xx million copies of Windows 
7 have been sold.


I need to get more info on XP upgrades and compatibility.  I have an aging 
Sony desktop running XP.  I think it needs  upgraded to Windows 7 or become 
a Vinux media server.

Don Marang


- Original Message - 
From: "Chris Hallsworth" 

To: 
Sent: Monday, June 22, 2009 6:37 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows Vista and Jaws?


Does anyone know if pre-orders apply to those like me using an OEM copy of 
Vista Home Premium?


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From: "Donald Marang" 
Sent: Monday, June 22, 2009 11:30 PM
To: 
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows Vista and Jaws?


   Hi Sarah,

Perhaps you might want to wait a few days.  I have heard that Best Buy 
and
probably others will be offering a free Windows 7 upgrade with a purchase 
of
a new computer, starting June 26.  I have also heard a pre-announcement 
that
upgrades for others using Vista Home Premium will be available for 
preorder for only $50!

This also might be the upgrade price for an upgrade from XP to Windows 7,
since Microsoft would like to get individuals and corporations who have
stayed clear of Vista and over forward!  Vista is bloated and was not 
ready
when it was first released.  That gave it a bad reputation.  It has 
gotten much better and I like it better than

XP now.  However, Vista still requires more hardware than it should!  It
sounds like Windows solves a;all these problems without causing any
compatibility issues.  This is historic!  It is the first time that
Microsoft has ever announced a new operating system that is smaller and
requires less hardware than the previous version!  It sounds great and I
plan on updating.

Don Marang


- Original Message - 
From: "beccajfan" 

To: 
Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2009 11:19 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows Vista and Jaws?



Wow! See, those are the kidns of stories I have heard about. I had a
sighted person tell me that vista crashed all the time on him. When 
doesn

windows7 come out?
That is what I am scaredc about. I mean I like xp and haven't had any
problems, and I agree that you have to move with the technology, but I
don't want to have a computer that I can't even use that I have spent a
bunch of money on, but at the same time, do 't have the extra $200 to 
pay

for the transition option to get an xp computer. Windows Vista computers
are now cheaper then xp ones.
Sarah

- Original Message - 
From: "Dale Leavens" 

To: 
Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2009 10:10 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows Vista and Jaws?



I have had Vista since last August and twice now it has gone down with a
corrupt operating system failure. Unfortunately that wipes Jaws too and
although there is a recovery feature available on the Lenovo computers
you
need to access it through the BIOS which doesn't talk even when an
operating
system isn't corrupt.

I had the option at the time of XP Pro which I didn't choose it just
seems
wrong not to move with the evolving technology. Apparently Windows 7 
will

be
a much lighter and more efficient operating system. Go figure, an
operating
system which doesn't consume the bulk of the resources of your 
computer.




- Original Message - 
From: 

To: 
Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2009 9:38 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows Vista and Jaws?


hmmm, vista isn't the bear people let it to be, i have a vist home 
basic

dell laptop inspiron 1525 and haven't had any trouble at all, it just
takes a bit to get used to the differences in the operating system, 
but

everything works just fine.

Legend has it that on Sunday 6/21/2009 07:37 PM, beccajfan said:

Hi,
I have a question. My laptop recently broke, and I am trying to get a
new
one. I have relized that most stuf is going towards windows vista, but 
I

have heard horror stories about jaws and windows vista. I have also
heard
some bad stuff from a few sighted people about windows vista. However,
to
get a laptop with xp on it as people have been sugesting to me costs
like
$200 more then just purchasing a laptop with windows vista.
I know one person who has vista, and has had nothing but problems and
claims tha he can't even use his laptop because Vista is so bad. I 
have
jaws 10.0.512U and am not sure if that even works with vista. When I 
got
my jaws I didn't get an extra vista c.d. with it that they talk about 
in

the fs cast so I don't even know if I am upgraded to use vista.
I am very familear with xp, and am not just one of those go and check 
my
em

Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws and Avg

[Marilyn Walker]

Thanks, Chris.  marilyn
- Original Message - 
From: "Chris Hallsworth" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, June 22, 2009 6:23 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws and Avg


:I think AVG is slow anyway and you should try Avast!. The Home Edition is
: free, including annual registrations, doesn't slow down your system, 
alerts
: you of detected viruses, as well as when the database gets updated. It's
: accessible too.
:
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:
: --
: From: "Glenn Lemacher" 
: Sent: Monday, June 22, 2009 9:56 PM
: To: "Jaws list" 
: Subject: [JAWS-Users] Jaws and Avg
:
: > I'm using Jaws 10 on my laptop and ever since I put AVG version 8 on it 
it
: > takes Jaws for ever to come up when booting the computer.Anyone have an
: > idea
: > as to why.
: >
: >
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws and Avg

[Marilyn Walker]

Gerald, as for the paid version, I paid for it and have had no luck getting 
it installed.  I exited everything except windows firewall but it will not 
accept my registration number.  I even got a new registration number and it 
doesn't work either.  I have had so many problems since I installed jaws 10, 
that it can't be just coincidence.  marilyn
- Original Message - 
From: "Gerald Levy" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, June 22, 2009 5:32 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws and Avg


:
: I use the paid version of AVG 8.5 and have no problems with scans.  It 
takes
: about an hour to run a complete scan on my computer, and it does not seem 
to
: slow down other running applications.
:
: Gerald
: - Original Message - 
: From: "Marilyn Walker" 
: To: 
: Sent: Monday, June 22, 2009 5:07 PM
: Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws and Avg
:
:
: > Glenn, avg free slows down everything and scans practically all morning
: > after I turn on the computer.  I'm wondering whether or not the paid
: > version
: > of 8.5 is as annoying, considering that the paid version allows the user
: > to
: > set scan times, etc.  marilyn
: > - Original Message - 
: > From: "Glenn Lemacher" 
: > To: "Jaws list" 
: > Sent: Monday, June 22, 2009 3:56 PM
: > Subject: [JAWS-Users] Jaws and Avg
: >
: >
: > : I'm using Jaws 10 on my laptop and ever since I put AVG version 8 on 
it
: > it
: > : takes Jaws for ever to come up when booting the computer.Anyone have 
an
: > idea
: > : as to why.
: > :
: > :
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Re: [JAWS-Users] outlook 2007

[Chris Hallsworth]

Similar to Outlook 2003, but if JAWS 10 kept reading message after message 
automatically I'd use it, but not at this time as this behaviour isn't 
working.


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From: "Zach" 
Sent: Monday, June 22, 2009 9:17 PM
To: 
Subject: [JAWS-Users] outlook 2007


Hi, how accesible is outlook 2007 to jaws 10?
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows Vista and Jaws?

[tim]

Will work just fine.

At 10:01 PM 6/21/2009, you wrote:

Well, I can't afford a current sma. So, will the version I have work fine?
Sarah
- Original Message - From: "Mark" 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2009 8:53 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows Vista and Jaws?



Hi
In order for JAWS to do the upgrades you 
will probably need a current SMA agreement 
with Freedom Scientific. Personally I have 
been blessed with very few of the issues that 
people complain about with vista. That being 
said I have heard my share of vista bashing 
and don't understand what they are talking about.


God bless,
Mark
-- Currently in Pendleton, Eastern Oregon 
Regional At Pendleton, Oregon Overcast, 64.0°F Wind:WSW-250° at 18mph

- Original Message - From: "beccajfan" 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2009 6:38 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows Vista and Jaws?


Thanks, everybody for your help.
So why do I hear all this bad stuff then if Vista is fine. I have heard
stories that vista crashes all the time, and that you are always getting
errors and that Vista was like the worst opperating system and they never
should have switched from xp. I am just really nervous because if it isn't
working properly when I buy the new computer then I am not able to do
anythign about it and am stuck with what I have.
How come my friend has so many problems with his laptop? If you are pretty
computer tech as far as how to run things, then will vista be easy to figure
out?
If I do a check for updates under jaws, how will it give me the latest build
if I don't have any sma's or like upgrades things.
Thanks,
Sarah

- Original Message - From: "Mark" 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2009 8:30 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows Vista and Jaws?



Hi
I am running vista home addition on my HP laptop and JAWS 10. I love
vista. It took a little adjusting to figure out how to find what I want
compared to XP but over all I am pleased with the operating system.

God bless,
Mark
-- Currently in Pendleton, Eastern Oregon Regional At Pendleton, Oregon
Overcast, 64.0°F Wind:WSW-250° at 18mph gu
- Original Message - From: "beccajfan" 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2009 5:37 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Windows Vista and Jaws?


Hi,
I have a question. My laptop recently broke, and I am trying to get a new
one. I have relized that most stuf is going towards windows vista, but I
have heard horror stories about jaws and windows vista. I have also heard
some bad stuff from a few sighted people about windows vista. However, to
get a laptop with xp on it as people have been sugesting to me costs like
$200 more then just purchasing a laptop with windows vista.
I know one person who has vista, and has had nothing but problems and
claims tha he can't even use his laptop because Vista is so bad. I have
jaws 10.0.512U and am not sure if that even works with vista. When I got
my jaws I didn't get an extra vista c.d. with it that they talk about in
the fs cast so I don't even know if I am upgraded to use vista.
I am very familear with xp, and am not just one of those go and check my
email people. I am on the computer all the time and am constantly doing
stuff such as browsing the web, syncing to my phone, putting stuff on my
ipod, etc.
Does anybody know anything about Windows Vista, and do you know if it is
still better to get xp? My mom said that it has to work because fs says it
does on there website, and she said that noone uses xp anymore and that it
is outdated and that xp is old and that's why it costs more if you want xp
on your computer instead of vista.
Thanks in advance for any suggestions.
Sarah
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows Vista and Jaws?

[tim]

Those are mostly from those that,
1. Don't get enough ram to do the job.
2. vista ain't xp, but can be customized very well.
3. they don't take the time to learn vista, because again, its not xp.
Got home premium with a 2.8 gig quad cpu, 4 gig 
of ram, and haven't had any of the problems most complain about.


At 09:38 PM 6/21/2009, you wrote:

Thanks, everybody for your help.
So why do I hear all this bad stuff then if 
Vista is fine. I have heard stories that vista 
crashes all the time, and that you are always 
getting errors and that Vista was like the worst 
opperating system and they never should have 
switched from xp. I am just really nervous 
because if it isn't working properly when I buy 
the new computer then I am not able to do 
anythign about it and am stuck with what I have.
How come my friend has so many problems with his 
laptop? If you are pretty computer tech as far 
as how to run things, then will vista be easy to figure out?
If I do a check for updates under jaws, how will 
it give me the latest build if I don't have any sma's or like upgrades things.

Thanks,
Sarah

- Original Message - From: "Mark" 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2009 8:30 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows Vista and Jaws?



Hi
I am running vista home addition on my HP 
laptop and JAWS 10. I love vista. It took a 
little adjusting to figure out how to find 
what I want compared to XP but over all I am pleased with the operating system.


God bless,
Mark
-- Currently in Pendleton, Eastern Oregon 
Regional At Pendleton, Oregon Overcast, 64.0°F Wind:WSW-250° at 18mph gu

- Original Message - From: "beccajfan" 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2009 5:37 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Windows Vista and Jaws?


Hi,
I have a question. My laptop recently broke, 
and I am trying to get a new one. I have 
relized that most stuf is going towards windows 
vista, but I have heard horror stories about 
jaws and windows vista. I have also heard some 
bad stuff from a few sighted people about 
windows vista. However, to get a laptop with xp 
on it as people have been sugesting to me costs 
like $200 more then just purchasing a laptop with windows vista.
I know one person who has vista, and has had 
nothing but problems and claims tha he can't 
even use his laptop because Vista is so bad. I 
have jaws 10.0.512U and am not sure if that 
even works with vista. When I got my jaws I 
didn't get an extra vista c.d. with it that 
they talk about in the fs cast so I don't even 
know if I am upgraded to use vista.
I am very familear with xp, and am not just one 
of those go and check my email people. I am on 
the computer all the time and am constantly 
doing stuff such as browsing the web, syncing 
to my phone, putting stuff on my ipod, etc.
Does anybody know anything about Windows Vista, 
and do you know if it is still better to get 
xp? My mom said that it has to work because fs 
says it does on there website, and she said 
that noone uses xp anymore and that it is 
outdated and that xp is old and that's why it 
costs more if you want xp on your computer instead of vista.

Thanks in advance for any suggestions.
Sarah
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws and Avg

[Chris Hallsworth]

I think AVG is slow anyway and you should try Avast!. The Home Edition is 
free, including annual registrations, doesn't slow down your system, alerts 
you of detected viruses, as well as when the database gets updated. It's 
accessible too.


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From: "Glenn Lemacher" 
Sent: Monday, June 22, 2009 9:56 PM
To: "Jaws list" 
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Jaws and Avg


I'm using Jaws 10 on my laptop and ever since I put AVG version 8 on it it
takes Jaws for ever to come up when booting the computer.Anyone have an 
idea

as to why.


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws and Avg

[Holger Fiallo]

I am using the free and does not do so for me.

Kind Regard

Holger Fiallo

- Original Message - 
From: "Gerald Levy" 

To: 
Sent: Monday, June 22, 2009 5:32 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws and Avg




I use the paid version of AVG 8.5 and have no problems with scans.  It 
takes about an hour to run a complete scan on my computer, and it does not 
seem to slow down other running applications.


Gerald
- Original Message - 
From: "Marilyn Walker" 

To: 
Sent: Monday, June 22, 2009 5:07 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws and Avg



Glenn, avg free slows down everything and scans practically all morning
after I turn on the computer.  I'm wondering whether or not the paid 
version
of 8.5 is as annoying, considering that the paid version allows the user 
to

set scan times, etc.  marilyn
- Original Message - 
From: "Glenn Lemacher" 

To: "Jaws list" 
Sent: Monday, June 22, 2009 3:56 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Jaws and Avg


: I'm using Jaws 10 on my laptop and ever since I put AVG version 8 on it 
it

: takes Jaws for ever to come up when booting the computer.Anyone have an
idea
: as to why.
:
:
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows Vista and Jaws?

[Chris Hallsworth]

Does anyone know if pre-orders apply to those like me using an OEM copy of 
Vista Home Premium?


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From: "Donald Marang" 
Sent: Monday, June 22, 2009 11:30 PM
To: 
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows Vista and Jaws?


   Hi Sarah,

Perhaps you might want to wait a few days.  I have heard that Best Buy and
probably others will be offering a free Windows 7 upgrade with a purchase 
of
a new computer, starting June 26.  I have also heard a pre-announcement 
that
upgrades for others using Vista Home Premium will be available for 
preorder for only $50!

This also might be the upgrade price for an upgrade from XP to Windows 7,
since Microsoft would like to get individuals and corporations who have
stayed clear of Vista and over forward!  Vista is bloated and was not 
ready
when it was first released.  That gave it a bad reputation.  It has gotten 
much better and I like it better than

XP now.  However, Vista still requires more hardware than it should!  It
sounds like Windows solves a;all these problems without causing any
compatibility issues.  This is historic!  It is the first time that
Microsoft has ever announced a new operating system that is smaller and
requires less hardware than the previous version!  It sounds great and I
plan on updating.

Don Marang


- Original Message - 
From: "beccajfan" 

To: 
Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2009 11:19 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows Vista and Jaws?



Wow! See, those are the kidns of stories I have heard about. I had a
sighted person tell me that vista crashed all the time on him. When doesn
windows7 come out?
That is what I am scaredc about. I mean I like xp and haven't had any
problems, and I agree that you have to move with the technology, but I
don't want to have a computer that I can't even use that I have spent a
bunch of money on, but at the same time, do 't have the extra $200 to pay
for the transition option to get an xp computer. Windows Vista computers
are now cheaper then xp ones.
Sarah

- Original Message - 
From: "Dale Leavens" 

To: 
Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2009 10:10 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows Vista and Jaws?



I have had Vista since last August and twice now it has gone down with a
corrupt operating system failure. Unfortunately that wipes Jaws too and
although there is a recovery feature available on the Lenovo computers
you
need to access it through the BIOS which doesn't talk even when an
operating
system isn't corrupt.

I had the option at the time of XP Pro which I didn't choose it just
seems
wrong not to move with the evolving technology. Apparently Windows 7 
will

be
a much lighter and more efficient operating system. Go figure, an
operating
system which doesn't consume the bulk of the resources of your computer.



- Original Message - 
From: 

To: 
Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2009 9:38 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows Vista and Jaws?


hmmm, vista isn't the bear people let it to be, i have a vist home 
basic

dell laptop inspiron 1525 and haven't had any trouble at all, it just
takes a bit to get used to the differences in the operating system, but
everything works just fine.

Legend has it that on Sunday 6/21/2009 07:37 PM, beccajfan said:

Hi,
I have a question. My laptop recently broke, and I am trying to get a
new
one. I have relized that most stuf is going towards windows vista, but 
I

have heard horror stories about jaws and windows vista. I have also
heard
some bad stuff from a few sighted people about windows vista. However,
to
get a laptop with xp on it as people have been sugesting to me costs
like
$200 more then just purchasing a laptop with windows vista.
I know one person who has vista, and has had nothing but problems and
claims tha he can't even use his laptop because Vista is so bad. I have
jaws 10.0.512U and am not sure if that even works with vista. When I 
got
my jaws I didn't get an extra vista c.d. with it that they talk about 
in

the fs cast so I don't even know if I am upgraded to use vista.
I am very familear with xp, and am not just one of those go and check 
my

email people. I am on the computer all the time and am constantly doing
stuff such as browsing the web, syncing to my phone, putting stuff on 
my

ipod, etc.
Does anybody know anything about Windows Vista, and do you know if it 
is

still better to get xp? My mom said that it has to work because fs says
it
does on there website, and she said that noone uses xp anymore and that
it
is outdated and that xp is old and that's why it costs more if you want
xp
on your computer instead of vista.
Thanks in advance for any suggestions.
Sarah
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws and Avg

[Gerald Levy]

I use the paid version of AVG 8.5 and have no problems with scans.  It takes 
about an hour to run a complete scan on my computer, and it does not seem to 
slow down other running applications.


Gerald
- Original Message - 
From: "Marilyn Walker" 

To: 
Sent: Monday, June 22, 2009 5:07 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws and Avg



Glenn, avg free slows down everything and scans practically all morning
after I turn on the computer.  I'm wondering whether or not the paid 
version
of 8.5 is as annoying, considering that the paid version allows the user 
to

set scan times, etc.  marilyn
- Original Message - 
From: "Glenn Lemacher" 

To: "Jaws list" 
Sent: Monday, June 22, 2009 3:56 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Jaws and Avg


: I'm using Jaws 10 on my laptop and ever since I put AVG version 8 on it 
it

: takes Jaws for ever to come up when booting the computer.Anyone have an
idea
: as to why.
:
:
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Saving Settings

[Flor Lynch]

I need to say at this point, you didn't tell us here which version of JAWS 
you're using.  What I wrote applies to versions of JAWS below JAWS10 - where 
insert-ctrl-s instead activates the Voice profiles dialogue.  If you're 
using JAWS10, say.

- Original Message - 
From: "Flor Lynch" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, June 22, 2009 10:37 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Saving Settings


No, ctrl-shift-s makes a temporary change only.  Go into the configuration
manager, and press  ctrl-shift-d to open the Default configuration manager.
then Press alt-s for Set Options, then s for synthesizer Options.  Press the
tab key.  You now come to a combo box called "default synthesizer".  Arrow
to the synth you want as your default.  Now tab forward (or shift-tab back)
to OK, and activate with spacebar or enter.  Now press ctrl-s to save your
change; or, when pressing alt-F4, agree to save your change on the way out.

- Original Message - 
>From: "Steve S." 
To: 
Sent: Monday, June 22, 2009 8:05 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Saving Settings


Thanks but that didn't do it.  I changed synthisizers with ctr+Insert+S and
would like to keep this change and can't remember the keystroke to do so.
Thanks.
- Original Message - 
>From: "Derek Roberts" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, June 22, 2009 2:07 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Saving Settings


> Hi,
>
> You need to change the setting in the jaws configuration manager (jaws key
> + 6 on the number row.) When you close that, it will ask you if you want
> to save the changes, say yes.
>
> HTH. PS: this will only take effect for the app your in, if you want it to
> be for every app, while in the config manager before you make the changes,
> press control shift d.
> "Debugging is twice as hard as writing the code in the first place.
> Therefore, if you write the code as cleverly as possible, you are,
> by definition, not smart enough to debug it." - Brian W. Kernighan
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Steve S." 
> To: 
> Sent: Monday, June 22, 2009 2:02 PM
> Subject: [JAWS-Users] Saving Settings
>
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> What is the keystroke for saving setting setting like changing
>> synthisizers?  Thanks.
>>
>> Steve
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows Vista and Jaws?

[Donald Marang]

   Hi Sarah,

Perhaps you might want to wait a few days.  I have heard that Best Buy and
probably others will be offering a free Windows 7 upgrade with a purchase of
a new computer, starting June 26.  I have also heard a pre-announcement that
upgrades for others using Vista Home Premium will be available for preorder 
for only $50!

This also might be the upgrade price for an upgrade from XP to Windows 7,
since Microsoft would like to get individuals and corporations who have
stayed clear of Vista and over forward!  Vista is bloated and was not ready
when it was first released.  That gave it a bad reputation.  It has gotten 
much better and I like it better than

XP now.  However, Vista still requires more hardware than it should!  It
sounds like Windows solves a;all these problems without causing any
compatibility issues.  This is historic!  It is the first time that
Microsoft has ever announced a new operating system that is smaller and
requires less hardware than the previous version!  It sounds great and I
plan on updating.

Don Marang


- Original Message - 
From: "beccajfan" 

To: 
Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2009 11:19 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows Vista and Jaws?



Wow! See, those are the kidns of stories I have heard about. I had a
sighted person tell me that vista crashed all the time on him. When doesn
windows7 come out?
That is what I am scaredc about. I mean I like xp and haven't had any
problems, and I agree that you have to move with the technology, but I
don't want to have a computer that I can't even use that I have spent a
bunch of money on, but at the same time, do 't have the extra $200 to pay
for the transition option to get an xp computer. Windows Vista computers
are now cheaper then xp ones.
Sarah

- Original Message - 
From: "Dale Leavens" 

To: 
Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2009 10:10 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows Vista and Jaws?



I have had Vista since last August and twice now it has gone down with a
corrupt operating system failure. Unfortunately that wipes Jaws too and
although there is a recovery feature available on the Lenovo computers
you
need to access it through the BIOS which doesn't talk even when an
operating
system isn't corrupt.

I had the option at the time of XP Pro which I didn't choose it just
seems
wrong not to move with the evolving technology. Apparently Windows 7 will
be
a much lighter and more efficient operating system. Go figure, an
operating
system which doesn't consume the bulk of the resources of your computer.



- Original Message - 
From: 

To: 
Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2009 9:38 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows Vista and Jaws?



hmmm, vista isn't the bear people let it to be, i have a vist home basic
dell laptop inspiron 1525 and haven't had any trouble at all, it just
takes a bit to get used to the differences in the operating system, but
everything works just fine.

Legend has it that on Sunday 6/21/2009 07:37 PM, beccajfan said:

Hi,
I have a question. My laptop recently broke, and I am trying to get a
new
one. I have relized that most stuf is going towards windows vista, but I
have heard horror stories about jaws and windows vista. I have also
heard
some bad stuff from a few sighted people about windows vista. However,
to
get a laptop with xp on it as people have been sugesting to me costs
like
$200 more then just purchasing a laptop with windows vista.
I know one person who has vista, and has had nothing but problems and
claims tha he can't even use his laptop because Vista is so bad. I have
jaws 10.0.512U and am not sure if that even works with vista. When I got
my jaws I didn't get an extra vista c.d. with it that they talk about in
the fs cast so I don't even know if I am upgraded to use vista.
I am very familear with xp, and am not just one of those go and check my
email people. I am on the computer all the time and am constantly doing
stuff such as browsing the web, syncing to my phone, putting stuff on my
ipod, etc.
Does anybody know anything about Windows Vista, and do you know if it is
still better to get xp? My mom said that it has to work because fs says
it
does on there website, and she said that noone uses xp anymore and that
it
is outdated and that xp is old and that's why it costs more if you want
xp
on your computer instead of vista.
Thanks in advance for any suggestions.
Sarah
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Saving Settings

[Steve S.]

Flor,

Thank you!  I finally got it and appreciate your help.

Steve
- Original Message - 
From: "Flor Lynch" 

To: 
Sent: Monday, June 22, 2009 5:37 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Saving Settings



No, ctrl-shift-s makes a temporary change only.  Go into the configuration
manager, and press  ctrl-shift-d to open the Default configuration 
manager.
then Press alt-s for Set Options, then s for synthesizer Options.  Press 
the

tab key.  You now come to a combo box called "default synthesizer".  Arrow
to the synth you want as your default.  Now tab forward (or shift-tab 
back)

to OK, and activate with spacebar or enter.  Now press ctrl-s to save your
change; or, when pressing alt-F4, agree to save your change on the way 
out.


- Original Message - 
From: "Steve S." 

To: 
Sent: Monday, June 22, 2009 8:05 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Saving Settings


Thanks but that didn't do it.  I changed synthisizers with ctr+Insert+S 
and

would like to keep this change and can't remember the keystroke to do so.
Thanks.
- Original Message - 

From: "Derek Roberts" 

To: 
Sent: Monday, June 22, 2009 2:07 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Saving Settings



Hi,

You need to change the setting in the jaws configuration manager (jaws 
key

+ 6 on the number row.) When you close that, it will ask you if you want
to save the changes, say yes.

HTH. PS: this will only take effect for the app your in, if you want it 
to
be for every app, while in the config manager before you make the 
changes,

press control shift d.
"Debugging is twice as hard as writing the code in the first place.
Therefore, if you write the code as cleverly as possible, you are,
by definition, not smart enough to debug it." - Brian W. Kernighan

- Original Message - 
From: "Steve S." 

To: 
Sent: Monday, June 22, 2009 2:02 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Saving Settings



Hi,

What is the keystroke for saving setting setting like changing
synthisizers?  Thanks.

Steve
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Saving settings Please!

[Flor Lynch]

As I explained in my previous message, you can't do all of that through the 
ctrl-insert-s facility, which is just for changing synth 'on the fly' (as 
they say).

- Original Message - 
From: "Steve S." 
To: 
Sent: Monday, June 22, 2009 10:38 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Saving settings Please!


Hi,

Will someone please tell me how to do this!  I've changed to Sappi 5 by 
going to CTR+Insert+S.  How do I keep this setting?  Thanks.
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows Vista and Jaws?

[Dale Leavens]

Both times now I had just opened an e-mail on a Sunday Morning 
coincidentally. I wonder if maybe something updated over night and caused 
things to fail but I will never know.



- Original Message - 
From: "Chris Hallsworth" 

To: 
Sent: Monday, June 22, 2009 2:57 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows Vista and Jaws?


I had this once. It loaded, but after I typed in my password it got stuck 
at the welcome screen and the egg timer just kept going round. Nothing 
would respond, not even the touchpad. The restore luckily did it, but 
that's not the point here. I wasn't even doing anything to make it corrupt.


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From: "Dale Leavens" 
Sent: Monday, June 22, 2009 4:10 AM
To: 
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows Vista and Jaws?

I have had Vista since last August and twice now it has gone down with a 
corrupt operating system failure. Unfortunately that wipes Jaws too and 
although there is a recovery feature available on the Lenovo computers 
you need to access it through the BIOS which doesn't talk even when an 
operating system isn't corrupt.


I had the option at the time of XP Pro which I didn't choose it just 
seems wrong not to move with the evolving technology. Apparently Windows 
7 will be a much lighter and more efficient operating system. Go figure, 
an operating system which doesn't consume the bulk of the resources of 
your computer.




- Original Message - 
From: 

To: 
Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2009 9:38 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows Vista and Jaws?


hmmm, vista isn't the bear people let it to be, i have a vist home basic 
dell laptop inspiron 1525 and haven't had any trouble at all, it just 
takes a bit to get used to the differences in the operating system, but 
everything works just fine.


Legend has it that on Sunday 6/21/2009 07:37 PM, beccajfan said:

Hi,
I have a question. My laptop recently broke, and I am trying to get a 
new one. I have relized that most stuf is going towards windows vista, 
but I have heard horror stories about jaws and windows vista. I have 
also heard some bad stuff from a few sighted people about windows vista. 
However, to get a laptop with xp on it as people have been sugesting to 
me costs like $200 more then just purchasing a laptop with windows 
vista.
I know one person who has vista, and has had nothing but problems and 
claims tha he can't even use his laptop because Vista is so bad. I have 
jaws 10.0.512U and am not sure if that even works with vista. When I got 
my jaws I didn't get an extra vista c.d. with it that they talk about in 
the fs cast so I don't even know if I am upgraded to use vista.
I am very familear with xp, and am not just one of those go and check my 
email people. I am on the computer all the time and am constantly doing 
stuff such as browsing the web, syncing to my phone, putting stuff on my 
ipod, etc.
Does anybody know anything about Windows Vista, and do you know if it is 
still better to get xp? My mom said that it has to work because fs says 
it does on there website, and she said that noone uses xp anymore and 
that it is outdated and that xp is old and that's why it costs more if 
you want xp on your computer instead of vista.

Thanks in advance for any suggestions.
Sarah
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Re: [JAWS-Users] No Speech

[Flor Lynch]

Does you/he use a sound recording program, or any other program that would 
take over the sounds?  If this is going to be a frequent occurrence, you 
might need to become acquainted with whatever the cause of this situation 
is.  otherwise, you will need sight to system-restore.

- Original Message - 
From: "Patricia Dunbar" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, June 22, 2009 10:10 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] No Speech


I did do all of that save the last part regarding Jaws here.
I had those same steps from David Whitehead post when this happened the last
time and I did the first part of your message after doing the run dialogue
sndvol32 part, but still no sounds or speech.
I seem to recall we had to do a system restore to bring it all back sigh.

- Original Message - 
>From: "Flor Lynch" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, June 22, 2009 4:04 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] No Speech


> >From what you wrote below, if that is exactly what you did, it appears
> >you
> did not complete the sequence.  If you have no sound (and that is separate
> from JAWS No Speech):  In the Run dialog, type sndvol32; then tab once,
> and
> hit the home key to increase master Volume to 100%; and then tab once to
> the
> Mute All checkbox, which should be unchecked.  press the spacebar to
> change
> its state to unchecked.  perhaps now sound is restored.  You can now
> adjust
> the volume, taking care *at all times* not to check any of the mute
> checkboxes in these dialogues.
>
> If you have sound, but not JAWS speech:  To get JAWS speech, press
> JAWSKey+v, and then the end key, and then the enter key.  that's a quick
> way.
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Patricia Dunbar" 
> To: "Users of Jaws" 
> Sent: Monday, June 22, 2009 4:44 AM
> Subject: [JAWS-Users] No Speech
>
>
> Hello,
>
> We seem to have encountered once again Allen Dunbar has managed somehow to
> not have any speech on his computer again...
>
> I was smart this time and saved the instructions from the time before and
> have tried the Run command typing the, sndvol32 and enter, but still
> nothing..
>
> Now is there any way at all to do a system's restore without speech?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Patricia
>
>
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> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
>
>
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[JAWS-Users] Saving settings Please!

[Steve S.]

Hi,

Will someone please tell me how to do this!  I've changed to Sappi 5 by going 
to CTR+Insert+S.  How do I keep this setting?  Thanks.
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Saving Settings

[Flor Lynch]

No, ctrl-shift-s makes a temporary change only.  Go into the configuration 
manager, and press  ctrl-shift-d to open the Default configuration manager. 
then Press alt-s for Set Options, then s for synthesizer Options.  Press the 
tab key.  You now come to a combo box called "default synthesizer".  Arrow 
to the synth you want as your default.  Now tab forward (or shift-tab back) 
to OK, and activate with spacebar or enter.  Now press ctrl-s to save your 
change; or, when pressing alt-F4, agree to save your change on the way out.

- Original Message - 
From: "Steve S." 
To: 
Sent: Monday, June 22, 2009 8:05 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Saving Settings


Thanks but that didn't do it.  I changed synthisizers with ctr+Insert+S and
would like to keep this change and can't remember the keystroke to do so.
Thanks.
- Original Message - 
>From: "Derek Roberts" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, June 22, 2009 2:07 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Saving Settings


> Hi,
>
> You need to change the setting in the jaws configuration manager (jaws key
> + 6 on the number row.) When you close that, it will ask you if you want
> to save the changes, say yes.
>
> HTH. PS: this will only take effect for the app your in, if you want it to
> be for every app, while in the config manager before you make the changes,
> press control shift d.
> "Debugging is twice as hard as writing the code in the first place.
> Therefore, if you write the code as cleverly as possible, you are,
> by definition, not smart enough to debug it." - Brian W. Kernighan
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Steve S." 
> To: 
> Sent: Monday, June 22, 2009 2:02 PM
> Subject: [JAWS-Users] Saving Settings
>
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> What is the keystroke for saving setting setting like changing
>> synthisizers?  Thanks.
>>
>> Steve
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws and Avg

[Holger Fiallo]

it might not be jaws but your PC. I using jaws and AVG 8 and have no problem 
My PC starts fast and jaws comes up ASAP.


Kind Regard

Holger Fiallo

- Original Message - 
From: "Marilyn Walker" 

To: 
Sent: Monday, June 22, 2009 4:07 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws and Avg



Glenn, avg free slows down everything and scans practically all morning
after I turn on the computer.  I'm wondering whether or not the paid 
version
of 8.5 is as annoying, considering that the paid version allows the user 
to

set scan times, etc.  marilyn
- Original Message - 
From: "Glenn Lemacher" 

To: "Jaws list" 
Sent: Monday, June 22, 2009 3:56 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Jaws and Avg


: I'm using Jaws 10 on my laptop and ever since I put AVG version 8 on it 
it

: takes Jaws for ever to come up when booting the computer.Anyone have an
idea
: as to why.
:
:
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Re: [JAWS-Users] No Speech

[Patricia Dunbar]

I did do all of that save the last part regarding Jaws here.
I had those same steps from David Whitehead post when this happened the last 
time and I did the first part of your message after doing the run dialogue 
sndvol32 part, but still no sounds or speech.

I seem to recall we had to do a system restore to bring it all back sigh.

- Original Message - 
From: "Flor Lynch" 

To: 
Sent: Monday, June 22, 2009 4:04 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] No Speech


>From what you wrote below, if that is exactly what you did, it appears 
>you

did not complete the sequence.  If you have no sound (and that is separate
from JAWS No Speech):  In the Run dialog, type sndvol32; then tab once, 
and
hit the home key to increase master Volume to 100%; and then tab once to 
the
Mute All checkbox, which should be unchecked.  press the spacebar to 
change
its state to unchecked.  perhaps now sound is restored.  You can now 
adjust

the volume, taking care *at all times* not to check any of the mute
checkboxes in these dialogues.

If you have sound, but not JAWS speech:  To get JAWS speech, press
JAWSKey+v, and then the end key, and then the enter key.  that's a quick
way.

- Original Message - 
From: "Patricia Dunbar" 

To: "Users of Jaws" 
Sent: Monday, June 22, 2009 4:44 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] No Speech


Hello,

We seem to have encountered once again Allen Dunbar has managed somehow to
not have any speech on his computer again...

I was smart this time and saved the instructions from the time before and
have tried the Run command typing the, sndvol32 and enter, but still
nothing..

Now is there any way at all to do a system's restore without speech?

Thanks,

Patricia


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws and Avg

[Marilyn Walker]

Glenn, avg free slows down everything and scans practically all morning 
after I turn on the computer.  I'm wondering whether or not the paid version 
of 8.5 is as annoying, considering that the paid version allows the user to 
set scan times, etc.  marilyn
- Original Message - 
From: "Glenn Lemacher" 
To: "Jaws list" 
Sent: Monday, June 22, 2009 3:56 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Jaws and Avg


: I'm using Jaws 10 on my laptop and ever since I put AVG version 8 on it it
: takes Jaws for ever to come up when booting the computer.Anyone have an 
idea
: as to why.
:
:
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Re: [JAWS-Users] No Speech

[Flor Lynch]

>From what you wrote below, if that is exactly what you did, it appears you 
did not complete the sequence.  If you have no sound (and that is separate 
from JAWS No Speech):  In the Run dialog, type sndvol32; then tab once, and 
hit the home key to increase master Volume to 100%; and then tab once to the 
Mute All checkbox, which should be unchecked.  press the spacebar to change 
its state to unchecked.  perhaps now sound is restored.  You can now adjust 
the volume, taking care *at all times* not to check any of the mute 
checkboxes in these dialogues.

If you have sound, but not JAWS speech:  To get JAWS speech, press 
JAWSKey+v, and then the end key, and then the enter key.  that's a quick 
way.

- Original Message - 
From: "Patricia Dunbar" 
To: "Users of Jaws" 
Sent: Monday, June 22, 2009 4:44 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] No Speech


Hello,

We seem to have encountered once again Allen Dunbar has managed somehow to
not have any speech on his computer again...

I was smart this time and saved the instructions from the time before and
have tried the Run command typing the, sndvol32 and enter, but still
nothing..

Now is there any way at all to do a system's restore without speech?

Thanks,

Patricia


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[JAWS-Users] Jaws and Avg

[Glenn Lemacher]

I'm using Jaws 10 on my laptop and ever since I put AVG version 8 on it it 
takes Jaws for ever to come up when booting the computer.Anyone have an idea 
as to why. 


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[JAWS-Users] outlook 2007

[Zach]

Hi, how accesible is outlook 2007 to jaws 10?
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Re: [JAWS-Users] auto forms mode

[Zach]

I like it very much actually
- Original Message - 
From: "Gary" 

To: 
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2009 7:04 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] auto forms mode



Hi everyone,

Why do some of you dislike using auto forms mode? 


Just curious.

Gary


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Re: [JAWS-Users] FS reader question

[Brian Lee]

Hello Sherri,

Use CTRL+page up to increase rate of speech, use CTRL+page down to decrease 
rate of speech, and use CTRL+shift+N to get the default rate of speech.


Take care.
Brian Lee
brianl...@charter.net
- Original Message - 
From: "Sherri" 

To: 
Sent: Monday, June 22, 2009 12:06 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] FS reader question


Is it possible when listening to a document with FS reader demo to speed 
up the voice? Thanks.

Sherri
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Word count short Cut Key

[Griffiths, Steve]

Mark,

By default the status bar in Word 2007 includes the word count, so you
should also be able to get it with Insert + PageDown or F6 to move focus
to the status line and then RightArrow to the word count. Shift + F6
will then take you back to the document. In both cases you get something
like "Words: X/Y" where X is the number of words in the selection and Y
is the total number of words in the document.

Steve

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From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Flor Lynch
Sent: 21 June 2009 13:00
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Word count short Cut Key

I see.  In versions below 2007, alt-t takes you into tools.  Alt-r, w 
doesn't bring up word Count up to office XP.  Not sure about 2003.

- Original Message - 
From: "Justin Williams" 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2009 2:09 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Word count short Cut Key


I just tested it, and alt t w works, but alt r w words just the same,
and it
is the w007 way of doing it.  The word count is located on the review
tab.
Alt t does not take you anyware except to the home tab because by it's
self,
it is not a viable keystroke. But, alt t w works.  It's just a hold over
from 2003.  The 1003 menu bar commands don't work on their own.  They
work
only in conjunction with another keystroke such as alt t then w.  Well,
all
of them except alt f.  that takes you to the office button.  Use either
method, which ever works.
-Original Message-
>From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Flor Lynch
Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2009 8:51 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Word count short Cut Key

You sure you meant alt-r, and not alt-t?  Alt-t, w is (or was) the usual
shortcut, I think.  it may depend on the version of word.  With Word XP
(and

below, it's alt-t, w.

- Original Message - 
>From: "Justin Williams" 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2009 1:18 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Word count short Cut Key


Do alt r, then w.

-Original Message-
>From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Mark
Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2009 6:42 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Word count short Cut Key

Hi
 Is there a short cut key for counting the words in selected text in
MS
Word 2007. Currently I have to do an entire spell check before finding
out
how many words are in a particular section of a document.
 Thank you.

God bless,
Mark

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[JAWS-Users] FS reader question

[Sherri]

Is it possible when listening to a document with FS reader demo to speed up the 
voice? Thanks.
Sherri
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Saving Settings

[Steve S.]

Thanks but that didn't do it.  I changed synthisizers with ctr+Insert+S and 
would like to keep this change and can't remember the keystroke to do so. 
Thanks.
- Original Message - 
From: "Derek Roberts" 

To: 
Sent: Monday, June 22, 2009 2:07 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Saving Settings



Hi,

You need to change the setting in the jaws configuration manager (jaws key 
+ 6 on the number row.) When you close that, it will ask you if you want 
to save the changes, say yes.


HTH. PS: this will only take effect for the app your in, if you want it to 
be for every app, while in the config manager before you make the changes, 
press control shift d.

"Debugging is twice as hard as writing the code in the first place.
Therefore, if you write the code as cleverly as possible, you are,
by definition, not smart enough to debug it." - Brian W. Kernighan

- Original Message - 
From: "Steve S." 

To: 
Sent: Monday, June 22, 2009 2:02 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Saving Settings



Hi,

What is the keystroke for saving setting setting like changing 
synthisizers?  Thanks.


Steve
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Saving Settings

[Derek Roberts]

Hi,

You need to change the setting in the jaws configuration manager (jaws key + 
6 on the number row.) When you close that, it will ask you if you want to 
save the changes, say yes.


HTH. PS: this will only take effect for the app your in, if you want it to 
be for every app, while in the config manager before you make the changes, 
press control shift d.

"Debugging is twice as hard as writing the code in the first place.
Therefore, if you write the code as cleverly as possible, you are,
by definition, not smart enough to debug it." - Brian W. Kernighan

- Original Message - 
From: "Steve S." 

To: 
Sent: Monday, June 22, 2009 2:02 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Saving Settings



Hi,

What is the keystroke for saving setting setting like changing 
synthisizers?  Thanks.


Steve
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[JAWS-Users] Saving Settings

[Steve S.]

Hi,

What is the keystroke for saving setting setting like changing synthisizers?  
Thanks.

Steve
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[JAWS-Users] typing sound gone

[Marilyn Walker]

Listers, two more jaws 10 glitches: no characters spoken when typing in new 
contacts in address book or when typing in the run dialogue.  Any ideas? 
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows Vista and Jaws?

[Derek Roberts]

I've gotten that error too, that's what she was doing.

"Debugging is twice as hard as writing the code in the first place.
Therefore, if you write the code as cleverly as possible, you are,
by definition, not smart enough to debug it." - Brian W. Kernighan

- Original Message - 
From: "Simon" 

To: 
Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2009 10:47 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows Vista and Jaws?


no its not jaws setup package you have to go to where it says check for 
updates in the help section when you do a insert j.
 - Original Message - 
 From: beccajfan

 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2009 10:43 PM
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows Vista and Jaws?


 Okay, I tried that update thing on my computer that I am not supposed to
 play around on and it says "Jaws setup package error." "The jaws setup
 package could not install the required component jaws patch. The program
 will now exit.
 Sarah

 - Original Message - 
 From: "beccajfan" 

 To: 
 Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2009 9:34 PM
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows Vista and Jaws?


 > Cool thanks!
 > I am going to run update on my internship computer! I didn't know that
 > information.
 > God Bless,
 > Sarah
 >
 > - Original Message - 
 > From: "Aiden Gardiner" 

 > To: 
 > Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2009 9:31 PM
 > Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows Vista and Jaws?
 >
 >
 >> The check for updates feature merely gives you the next build of the 
same

 >> version, so for example, the latest build of jaws 10 right now is
 >> 10.0.1154,
 >> which is free to upgrade to because it is still jaws 10. The version of
 >> jaws
 >> you have seems to be the original release of jaws 10, so yes, it will 
run

 >> just fine under windows vista. Like I say, do a check for updates once
 >> it's
 >> authorised, it won't hurt anything, and it won't cost you anything 
either

 >> because it's still jaws 10.
 >>
 >> Hope this clarifies things a little,
 >>
 >> Aiden
 >> - Original Message - 
 >> From: "Mark" 

 >> To: 
 >> Sent: Monday, June 22, 2009 3:11 AM
 >> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows Vista and Jaws?
 >>
 >>
 >> Hi Sarah,
 >> That is something I do not know. I believe your best bet is to
 >> contact
 >> Freedom Scientific and ask them. It seems to me that I didn't have to
 >> change
 >> any thing in my JAWS when switching from XP to VISTA. So, there is some
 >> hope. Smile.
 >>
 >> God bless,
 >> Mark
 >> -- Currently in Pendleton, Eastern Oregon Regional At Pendleton, Oregon
 >> Overcast, 64.0°F Wind:WSW-240° at 16mph gusti
 >> - Original Message - 
 >> From: "beccajfan" 

 >> To: 
 >> Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2009 7:01 PM
 >> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows Vista and Jaws?
 >>
 >>
 >> Well, I can't afford a current sma. So, will the version I have work
 >> fine?
 >> Sarah
 >> - Original Message - 
 >> From: "Mark" 

 >> To: 
 >> Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2009 8:53 PM
 >> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows Vista and Jaws?
 >>
 >>
 >>> Hi
 >>> In order for JAWS to do the upgrades you will probably need a
 >>> current
 >>> SMA agreement with Freedom Scientific. Personally I have been blessed
 >>> with
 >>> very few of the issues that people complain about with vista. That 
being

 >>> said I have heard my share of vista bashing and don't understand what
 >>> they
 >>> are talking about.
 >>>
 >>> God bless,
 >>> Mark
 >>> -- Currently in Pendleton, Eastern Oregon Regional At Pendleton, 
Oregon

 >>> Overcast, 64.0°F Wind:WSW-250° at 18mph
 >>> - Original Message - 
 >>> From: "beccajfan" 

 >>> To: 
 >>> Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2009 6:38 PM
 >>> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows Vista and Jaws?
 >>>
 >>>
 >>> Thanks, everybody for your help.
 >>> So why do I hear all this bad stuff then if Vista is fine. I have 
heard
 >>> stories that vista crashes all the time, and that you are always 
getting

 >>> errors and that Vista was like the worst opperating system and they
 >>> never
 >>> should have switched from xp. I am just really nervous because if it
 >>> isn't
 >>> working properly when I buy the new computer then I am not able to do
 >>> anythign about it and am stuck with what I have.
 >>> How come my friend has so many problems with his laptop? If you are
 >>> pretty
 >>> computer tech as far as how to run things, then will vista be easy to
 >>> figure
 >>> out?
 >>> If I do a check for updates under jaws, how will it give me the latest
 >>> build
 >>> if I don't have any sma's or like upgrades things.
 >>> Thanks,
 >>> Sarah
 >>>
 >>> - Original Message - 
 >>> From: "Mark" 

 >>> To: 
 >>> Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2009 8:30 PM
 >>> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows Vista and Jaws?
 >>>
 >>>
  Hi
  I am running vista home addition on my HP laptop and JAWS 10. I
  love
  vista. It took a little adjusting to figure out how to find what I 
want

  compared to XP but over all I am pleased with the operating system.
 
  God bless,
  Mark
 

Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows Vista and Jaws?

[Derek Roberts]

Hi,

JAWS got vista support in version 8.0. But it has improved since then.
"Debugging is twice as hard as writing the code in the first place.
Therefore, if you write the code as cleverly as possible, you are,
by definition, not smart enough to debug it." - Brian W. Kernighan

- Original Message - 
From: "Mark" 

To: 
Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2009 10:11 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows Vista and Jaws?


Hi Sarah,
That is something I do not know. I believe your best bet is to contact 
Freedom Scientific and ask them. It seems to me that I didn't have to change 
any thing in my JAWS when switching from XP to VISTA. So, there is some 
hope. Smile.


God bless,
Mark
-- Currently in Pendleton, Eastern Oregon Regional At Pendleton, Oregon 
Overcast, 64.0°F Wind:WSW-240° at 16mph gusti
- Original Message - 
From: "beccajfan" 

To: 
Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2009 7:01 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows Vista and Jaws?


Well, I can't afford a current sma. So, will the version I have work fine?
Sarah
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From: "Mark" 

To: 
Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2009 8:53 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows Vista and Jaws?



Hi
In order for JAWS to do the upgrades you will probably need a current
SMA agreement with Freedom Scientific. Personally I have been blessed with
very few of the issues that people complain about with vista. That being
said I have heard my share of vista bashing and don't understand what they
are talking about.

God bless,
Mark
-- Currently in Pendleton, Eastern Oregon Regional At Pendleton, Oregon
Overcast, 64.0°F Wind:WSW-250° at 18mph
- Original Message - 
From: "beccajfan" 

To: 
Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2009 6:38 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows Vista and Jaws?


Thanks, everybody for your help.
So why do I hear all this bad stuff then if Vista is fine. I have heard
stories that vista crashes all the time, and that you are always getting
errors and that Vista was like the worst opperating system and they never
should have switched from xp. I am just really nervous because if it isn't
working properly when I buy the new computer then I am not able to do
anythign about it and am stuck with what I have.
How come my friend has so many problems with his laptop? If you are pretty
computer tech as far as how to run things, then will vista be easy to
figure
out?
If I do a check for updates under jaws, how will it give me the latest
build
if I don't have any sma's or like upgrades things.
Thanks,
Sarah

- Original Message - 
From: "Mark" 

To: 
Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2009 8:30 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows Vista and Jaws?



Hi
I am running vista home addition on my HP laptop and JAWS 10. I love
vista. It took a little adjusting to figure out how to find what I want
compared to XP but over all I am pleased with the operating system.

God bless,
Mark
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- Original Message - 
From: "beccajfan" 

To: 
Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2009 5:37 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Windows Vista and Jaws?


Hi,
I have a question. My laptop recently broke, and I am trying to get a new
one. I have relized that most stuf is going towards windows vista, but I
have heard horror stories about jaws and windows vista. I have also heard
some bad stuff from a few sighted people about windows vista. However, to
get a laptop with xp on it as people have been sugesting to me costs like
$200 more then just purchasing a laptop with windows vista.
I know one person who has vista, and has had nothing but problems and
claims tha he can't even use his laptop because Vista is so bad. I have
jaws 10.0.512U and am not sure if that even works with vista. When I got
my jaws I didn't get an extra vista c.d. with it that they talk about in
the fs cast so I don't even know if I am upgraded to use vista.
I am very familear with xp, and am not just one of those go and check my
email people. I am on the computer all the time and am constantly doing
stuff such as browsing the web, syncing to my phone, putting stuff on my
ipod, etc.
Does anybody know anything about Windows Vista, and do you know if it is
still better to get xp? My mom said that it has to work because fs says
it
does on there website, and she said that noone uses xp anymore and that
it
is outdated and that xp is old and that's why it costs more if you want
xp
on your computer instead of vista.
Thanks in advance for any suggestions.
Sarah
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows Vista and Jaws?

[Derek Roberts]

I don't think it's that the thing is filled with errors, I think it's some 
of the people operating it. *grins* seriously though, they jsut get pissed 
that one small thing didn't work or that they can't find something they 
could find in xp.

"Debugging is twice as hard as writing the code in the first place.
Therefore, if you write the code as cleverly as possible, you are,
by definition, not smart enough to debug it." - Brian W. Kernighan

- Original Message - 
From: "beccajfan" 

To: 
Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2009 9:38 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows Vista and Jaws?


Thanks, everybody for your help.
So why do I hear all this bad stuff then if Vista is fine. I have heard
stories that vista crashes all the time, and that you are always getting
errors and that Vista was like the worst opperating system and they never
should have switched from xp. I am just really nervous because if it isn't
working properly when I buy the new computer then I am not able to do
anythign about it and am stuck with what I have.
How come my friend has so many problems with his laptop? If you are pretty
computer tech as far as how to run things, then will vista be easy to figure
out?
If I do a check for updates under jaws, how will it give me the latest build
if I don't have any sma's or like upgrades things.
Thanks,
Sarah

- Original Message - 
From: "Mark" 

To: 
Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2009 8:30 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows Vista and Jaws?



Hi
I am running vista home addition on my HP laptop and JAWS 10. I love 
vista. It took a little adjusting to figure out how to find what I want 
compared to XP but over all I am pleased with the operating system.


God bless,
Mark
-- Currently in Pendleton, Eastern Oregon Regional At Pendleton, Oregon 
Overcast, 64.0°F Wind:WSW-250° at 18mph gu
- Original Message - 
From: "beccajfan" 

To: 
Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2009 5:37 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Windows Vista and Jaws?


Hi,
I have a question. My laptop recently broke, and I am trying to get a new 
one. I have relized that most stuf is going towards windows vista, but I 
have heard horror stories about jaws and windows vista. I have also heard 
some bad stuff from a few sighted people about windows vista. However, to 
get a laptop with xp on it as people have been sugesting to me costs like 
$200 more then just purchasing a laptop with windows vista.
I know one person who has vista, and has had nothing but problems and 
claims tha he can't even use his laptop because Vista is so bad. I have 
jaws 10.0.512U and am not sure if that even works with vista. When I got 
my jaws I didn't get an extra vista c.d. with it that they talk about in 
the fs cast so I don't even know if I am upgraded to use vista.
I am very familear with xp, and am not just one of those go and check my 
email people. I am on the computer all the time and am constantly doing 
stuff such as browsing the web, syncing to my phone, putting stuff on my 
ipod, etc.
Does anybody know anything about Windows Vista, and do you know if it is 
still better to get xp? My mom said that it has to work because fs says it 
does on there website, and she said that noone uses xp anymore and that it 
is outdated and that xp is old and that's why it costs more if you want xp 
on your computer instead of vista.

Thanks in advance for any suggestions.
Sarah
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Info on capacity of dvd with jaws 9

[Marijan Janev]

If you have nero, open nero and from there press ctrl+i and you will get 
all pieces of information for the DVD in your DVD-drive.


Van Der Walt Riana said the following on 22.06.2009 07:47:

 From within windows explorer, the cd/dvd drive selected and having
navigated to the properties menu, we are unable to view the correct info
regarding capacity and used space, on a brand new dvd.



About 3 gig's data files were written to the dvd, but both the capacity
and free space reflects as 0, when one tries to read the info. Pc curser
is locked to jaws and in the general tab, using the arrow keys, both
reflect as 0, although it appears that the files have been written
correctly to the dvd, when played in windows media player 11.



It's a windows xp operating system, using jaws 9.
Does someone have a solution or different method, to obtain the used,
and/or free space with jaws?



Thanks and regards



Riana




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[JAWS-Users] AOL and Jaws

[starslight1979]

Hi all.
Please someone who has Aol please help me figure this out.
I have done the following:
went to the options in the mail client and made sure the reply was non  
style or I think it's blue bar. Not sure, but what I'mhaving problems with is  
the e-mail that I'm currently reading does brings me to teh middle it 
doesn't  start at the top for me. I s there a fix for this?
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows Vista and Jaws?

[Chris Hallsworth]

To be honest Sarah, Vista works fine with JAWS, even though personally I 
find it sluggish on this laptop with 2GB RAM and 1.46GHZ dual core 
processor. Now, folks, don't tell me that isn't adequate for Vista. I know 
that, however I can't downgrade to XP due to lack of drivers, plus Windows 
7, although I'm testing it, isn't recommended for the faint hearted as it's 
still in testing phases. Anyway Sarah, back to your question. Vista Home 
Premium, which is what I have, will work with JAWS 10.0.512 and higher. It 
even works with JAWS 9, but with some stability issues that seemed to have 
been resolved in JAWS 10. You should, at the very least, update Vista to 
SP2, plus update JAWS to 10.0.1154, which can be done through the check for 
updates feature. In terms of your tasks, Windows Mail is the e-mail client 
for Vista. Internet Explorer 7 is the web browser built into Vista, although 
you should upgrade to IE8. iTunes works fine under Vista, including the 
latest (8.2) which now works with JAWS 10.0.1154. I think that's all for 
now, so hope this helps.


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From: "beccajfan" 
Sent: Monday, June 22, 2009 1:37 AM
To: 
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Windows Vista and Jaws?


Hi,
I have a question. My laptop recently broke, and I am trying to get a new 
one. I have relized that most stuf is going towards windows vista, but I 
have heard horror stories about jaws and windows vista. I have also heard 
some bad stuff from a few sighted people about windows vista. However, to 
get a laptop with xp on it as people have been sugesting to me costs like 
$200 more then just purchasing a laptop with windows vista.
I know one person who has vista, and has had nothing but problems and 
claims tha he can't even use his laptop because Vista is so bad. I have 
jaws 10.0.512U and am not sure if that even works with vista. When I got 
my jaws I didn't get an extra vista c.d. with it that they talk about in 
the fs cast so I don't even know if I am upgraded to use vista.
I am very familear with xp, and am not just one of those go and check my 
email people. I am on the computer all the time and am constantly doing 
stuff such as browsing the web, syncing to my phone, putting stuff on my 
ipod, etc.
Does anybody know anything about Windows Vista, and do you know if it is 
still better to get xp? My mom said that it has to work because fs says it 
does on there website, and she said that noone uses xp anymore and that it 
is outdated and that xp is old and that's why it costs more if you want xp 
on your computer instead of vista.

Thanks in advance for any suggestions.
Sarah
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows Vista and Jaws?

[Chris Hallsworth]

I had this once. It loaded, but after I typed in my password it got stuck at 
the welcome screen and the egg timer just kept going round. Nothing would 
respond, not even the touchpad. The restore luckily did it, but that's not 
the point here. I wasn't even doing anything to make it corrupt.


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From: "Dale Leavens" 
Sent: Monday, June 22, 2009 4:10 AM
To: 
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows Vista and Jaws?

I have had Vista since last August and twice now it has gone down with a 
corrupt operating system failure. Unfortunately that wipes Jaws too and 
although there is a recovery feature available on the Lenovo computers you 
need to access it through the BIOS which doesn't talk even when an 
operating system isn't corrupt.


I had the option at the time of XP Pro which I didn't choose it just seems 
wrong not to move with the evolving technology. Apparently Windows 7 will 
be a much lighter and more efficient operating system. Go figure, an 
operating system which doesn't consume the bulk of the resources of your 
computer.




- Original Message - 
From: 

To: 
Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2009 9:38 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows Vista and Jaws?


hmmm, vista isn't the bear people let it to be, i have a vist home basic 
dell laptop inspiron 1525 and haven't had any trouble at all, it just 
takes a bit to get used to the differences in the operating system, but 
everything works just fine.


Legend has it that on Sunday 6/21/2009 07:37 PM, beccajfan said:

Hi,
I have a question. My laptop recently broke, and I am trying to get a new 
one. I have relized that most stuf is going towards windows vista, but I 
have heard horror stories about jaws and windows vista. I have also heard 
some bad stuff from a few sighted people about windows vista. However, to 
get a laptop with xp on it as people have been sugesting to me costs like 
$200 more then just purchasing a laptop with windows vista.
I know one person who has vista, and has had nothing but problems and 
claims tha he can't even use his laptop because Vista is so bad. I have 
jaws 10.0.512U and am not sure if that even works with vista. When I got 
my jaws I didn't get an extra vista c.d. with it that they talk about in 
the fs cast so I don't even know if I am upgraded to use vista.
I am very familear with xp, and am not just one of those go and check my 
email people. I am on the computer all the time and am constantly doing 
stuff such as browsing the web, syncing to my phone, putting stuff on my 
ipod, etc.
Does anybody know anything about Windows Vista, and do you know if it is 
still better to get xp? My mom said that it has to work because fs says 
it does on there website, and she said that noone uses xp anymore and 
that it is outdated and that xp is old and that's why it costs more if 
you want xp on your computer instead of vista.

Thanks in advance for any suggestions.
Sarah
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows Vista and Jaws?

[Chris Hallsworth]

You should be fine with Windows 7 if you use a Vista machine. All software 
and hardware should work out of the box, but of course this can't be 
guaranteed.


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From: "beccajfan" 
Sent: Monday, June 22, 2009 4:19 AM
To: 
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows Vista and Jaws?

Wow! See, those are the kidns of stories I have heard about. I had a 
sighted person tell me that vista crashed all the time on him. When doesn 
windows7 come out?
That is what I am scaredc about. I mean I like xp and haven't had any 
problems, and I agree that you have to move with the technology, but I 
don't want to have a computer that I can't even use that I have spent a 
bunch of money on, but at the same time, do 't have the extra $200 to pay 
for the transition option to get an xp computer. Windows Vista computers 
are now cheaper then xp ones.

Sarah

- Original Message - 
From: "Dale Leavens" 

To: 
Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2009 10:10 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows Vista and Jaws?



I have had Vista since last August and twice now it has gone down with a
corrupt operating system failure. Unfortunately that wipes Jaws too and
although there is a recovery feature available on the Lenovo computers 
you
need to access it through the BIOS which doesn't talk even when an 
operating

system isn't corrupt.

I had the option at the time of XP Pro which I didn't choose it just 
seems
wrong not to move with the evolving technology. Apparently Windows 7 will 
be
a much lighter and more efficient operating system. Go figure, an 
operating

system which doesn't consume the bulk of the resources of your computer.



- Original Message - 
From: 

To: 
Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2009 9:38 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows Vista and Jaws?



hmmm, vista isn't the bear people let it to be, i have a vist home basic
dell laptop inspiron 1525 and haven't had any trouble at all, it just
takes a bit to get used to the differences in the operating system, but
everything works just fine.

Legend has it that on Sunday 6/21/2009 07:37 PM, beccajfan said:

Hi,
I have a question. My laptop recently broke, and I am trying to get a 
new

one. I have relized that most stuf is going towards windows vista, but I
have heard horror stories about jaws and windows vista. I have also 
heard
some bad stuff from a few sighted people about windows vista. However, 
to
get a laptop with xp on it as people have been sugesting to me costs 
like

$200 more then just purchasing a laptop with windows vista.
I know one person who has vista, and has had nothing but problems and
claims tha he can't even use his laptop because Vista is so bad. I have
jaws 10.0.512U and am not sure if that even works with vista. When I got
my jaws I didn't get an extra vista c.d. with it that they talk about in
the fs cast so I don't even know if I am upgraded to use vista.
I am very familear with xp, and am not just one of those go and check my
email people. I am on the computer all the time and am constantly doing
stuff such as browsing the web, syncing to my phone, putting stuff on my
ipod, etc.
Does anybody know anything about Windows Vista, and do you know if it is
still better to get xp? My mom said that it has to work because fs says 
it
does on there website, and she said that noone uses xp anymore and that 
it
is outdated and that xp is old and that's why it costs more if you want 
xp

on your computer instead of vista.
Thanks in advance for any suggestions.
Sarah
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