[JAWS-Users] Getting e-mail address from forwarded messages

2009-10-15 Thread Fred Adams
I would appreciate it if someone could tell me how to obtain original e-mail 
address from forward message.  It seems that this is something I once knew 
but forgot.


Best wishes,


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[JAWS-Users] Word backups

2009-10-15 Thread Vicki
I posted a question a few days ago asking where the Word 2002 and 2003 
backup documents are stored, but I didn't see an answer come in. I apologize 
if I missed it. Could someone please repost that answer if it was posted? 
thanks.

Vicki

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Word backups

2009-10-15 Thread Jon Pierson
Hi Vicki,
I Googled word 2003 backups stored in and got a page containing:
This info applies to versions up through 2003.

When you turn on the backup
feature, Word saves backup files by appending or prepending some special
text to your file name. In some versions of Word, the WBK filename extension
is
used instead of the familiar DOC. In other versions of Word, the DOC
extension is used by Word adds the phrase Backup of to the beginning of
the document
name.

Let's say that you have two directories, and in each one you have different
documents but each has the same name, as in MyLetter.doc. If you have
backups
turned on, and Word allows you to specify where the backups are placed, then
the names for the backups of the two different files would be the same
(either
MyLetter.wbk or Backup of MyLetter.doc), and two files with the same name
cannot be saved in the same folder. The solution is for Word to simply keep
the
backup copy of a document in the same folder as the original copy. That way,
you don't run into naming conflicts at all.

Jon


 

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[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Vicki
Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2009 12:29 AM
To: JAW'S Users
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Word backups

I posted a question a few days ago asking where the Word 2002 and 2003
backup documents are stored, but I didn't see an answer come in. I apologize
if I missed it. Could someone please repost that answer if it was posted? 
thanks.

Vicki

O Morning, how hast thou grabbed me.
--- an fear as Kilshanny 


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Word backups

2009-10-15 Thread Vicki
Interesting. I have the backup feature checked and time marked, but it 
doesn't seem to be working. I'll have to do some more digging and see what 
the problem is. In prier versions of Word, I know there was a folder under 
Microsoft Office Word where all the backups went, but I can't find that 
either. Thank you for looking.

Vicki

O Morning, how hast thou grabbed me.
--- an fear as Kilshanny
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From: Jon Pierson joncpier...@comcast.net
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2009 5:38 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Word backups


Hi Vicki,
I Googled word 2003 backups stored in and got a page containing:
This info applies to versions up through 2003.

When you turn on the backup
feature, Word saves backup files by appending or prepending some special
text to your file name. In some versions of Word, the WBK filename extension
is
used instead of the familiar DOC. In other versions of Word, the DOC
extension is used by Word adds the phrase Backup of to the beginning of
the document
name.

Let's say that you have two directories, and in each one you have different
documents but each has the same name, as in MyLetter.doc. If you have
backups
turned on, and Word allows you to specify where the backups are placed, then
the names for the backups of the two different files would be the same
(either
MyLetter.wbk or Backup of MyLetter.doc), and two files with the same name
cannot be saved in the same folder. The solution is for Word to simply keep
the
backup copy of a document in the same folder as the original copy. That way,
you don't run into naming conflicts at all.

Jon




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From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Vicki
Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2009 12:29 AM
To: JAW'S Users
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Word backups

I posted a question a few days ago asking where the Word 2002 and 2003
backup documents are stored, but I didn't see an answer come in. I apologize
if I missed it. Could someone please repost that answer if it was posted?
thanks.

Vicki

O Morning, how hast thou grabbed me.
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Re: [JAWS-Users] question about windows 7

2009-10-15 Thread Larry Stansifer
One of the IT guys at work mentioned something about that
because Vista was so buggy Microsoft was offering a free
upgrade from Vista to Windows7, have you heard anything to
either substantiate or deny that rumor?

TNX

Larry

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Jimmy Podsim
Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2009 10:00 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] question about windows 7


Well, I know some blind people who were running the beta and
RC and I've heard nothing but good about it.  Of course,
there are many people who don't like Microsoft or anything
they make.  I've also heard good things about how JAWS
interacts with it and it sounds like it will be a better
experience with jaws and windows 7 than it was with jaws and
Vista.



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Kimsan
Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2009 10:06 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] question about windows 7

Ah, thanks.
I heard someone say that on the news today and believed that
it would be 
worth it for XP users and not vista users but ones' persons'
opinion doesn't

have to be someones decision, though.
Just asking that's all, good evening. 


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[JAWS-Users] Question on uninstalling outlook express 6, and applications running office 2003.

2009-10-15 Thread Albert Cutolo

Good morning everyone.

I have office 2003 installed on my desktop computer, as well as jaws 10 with 
windows xp home addition with all available service packs.  My question here 
is , if I were to uninstall office 2003 and replace it with office 2007, 
and replace my current version of outlook express 6 with the newer version 
of outlook express that comes with office 2007, would I then have to 
completely uninstall office 2003 first, before installing office 2007?  I'm 
asking this, because my current version of outlook express 6, has, and is 
giving me real problems here that I can't seem too resolve   nor do I have 
an opportunity too have a technician that I can call on to help me fix these 
problems that I am having with my current version of outlook express 6. 




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Re: [JAWS-Users] question about windows 7

2009-10-15 Thread Jimmy Podsim
If anybody does, let me know I'm running 3 Vista machines and it would be
nice, not that I'm having that much trouble with Vista, but a couple of the
machines are celarons and you can sure tell it's Vista on those.



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[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Larry Stansifer
Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2009 5:26 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] question about windows 7

One of the IT guys at work mentioned something about that
because Vista was so buggy Microsoft was offering a free
upgrade from Vista to Windows7, have you heard anything to
either substantiate or deny that rumor?

TNX

Larry

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[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of
Jimmy Podsim
Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2009 10:00 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] question about windows 7


Well, I know some blind people who were running the beta and
RC and I've heard nothing but good about it.  Of course,
there are many people who don't like Microsoft or anything
they make.  I've also heard good things about how JAWS
interacts with it and it sounds like it will be a better
experience with jaws and windows 7 than it was with jaws and
Vista.



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Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2009 10:06 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] question about windows 7

Ah, thanks.
I heard someone say that on the news today and believed that
it would be 
worth it for XP users and not vista users but ones' persons'
opinion doesn't

have to be someones decision, though.
Just asking that's all, good evening. 


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Question on uninstalling outlook express 6, and applications running office 2003.

2009-10-15 Thread Rick Justice
Hi Albert,
There is no version of Outlook Express higher than 6.
Microsoft replaced Outlook Express with Windows Mail, in Vista, and to the 
best of my knowledge,
the only mail client that ships with Office is Microsoft Outlook.
What problems are you experiencing with Outlook Express?
HTH,
Rick Justice
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From: Albert Cutolo acut...@nyc.rr.com
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2009 9:26 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Question on uninstalling outlook express 6,and 
applications running office 2003.


Good morning everyone.

I have office 2003 installed on my desktop computer, as well as jaws 10 with
windows xp home addition with all available service packs.  My question here
is , if I were to uninstall office 2003 and replace it with office 2007,
and replace my current version of outlook express 6 with the newer version
of outlook express that comes with office 2007, would I then have to
completely uninstall office 2003 first, before installing office 2007?  I'm
asking this, because my current version of outlook express 6, has, and is
giving me real problems here that I can't seem too resolve   nor do I have
an opportunity too have a technician that I can call on to help me fix these
problems that I am having with my current version of outlook express 6.



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Re: [JAWS-Users] Question on uninstalling outlook express 6, and applications running office 2003.

2009-10-15 Thread Jose Lomeli
Hi, Rick, So their is no way to upgrade Outlook express even if 
your using XP home?

Jose Lomeli
Email: joselom...@pghmail.com
Website: http://all4webs.com/q/2/jlomeli9393


- Original Message -
From: Rick Justice ricjust...@jaws-users.com
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Date sent: Thu, 15 Oct 2009 10:21:29 -0400
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Question on uninstalling outlook 

express 6,and applications running office 2003.


Hi Albert,
There is no version of Outlook Express higher than 6.
Microsoft replaced Outlook Express with Windows Mail, in Vista, 

and to the

best of my knowledge,
the only mail client that ships with Office is Microsoft Outlook.
What problems are you experiencing with Outlook Express?
HTH,
Rick Justice
- Original Message -
From: Albert Cutolo acut...@nyc.rr.com
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2009 9:26 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Question on uninstalling outlook express 

6,and

applications running office 2003.




Good morning everyone.


I have office 2003 installed on my desktop computer, as well as 

jaws 10 with
windows xp home addition with all available service packs.  My 

question here
is , if I were to uninstall office 2003 and replace it with 

office 2007,
and replace my current version of outlook express 6 with the 

newer version
of outlook express that comes with office 2007, would I then have 

to
completely uninstall office 2003 first, before installing office 

2007?  I'm
asking this, because my current version of outlook express 6, 

has, and is
giving me real problems here that I can't seem too resolve   nor 

do I have
an opportunity too have a technician that I can call on to help 

me fix these
problems that I am having with my current version of outlook 

express 6.




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Re: [JAWS-Users] Getting e-mail address from forwarded messages

2009-10-15 Thread Roger Levine

Hi Fred,
I believe in OE hitting ctrl+F3 key will give you the source address. The 
message must be open and alt+F4 key will get you out.

Roger
Roger
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From: Fred Adams hamsh...@tampabay.rr.com

To: jaws-users jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2009 11:53 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Getting e-mail address from forwarded messages


I would appreciate it if someone could tell me how to obtain original 
e-mail address from forward message.  It seems that this is something I 
once knew but forgot.


Best wishes,


FRED C. ADAMS W4HC
DO NOT FORGET THAT EVERY PEOPLE DESERVES
THE REGIME IT IS WILLING TO ENDURE.

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Question on uninstalling outlook express 6, and applications running office 2003.

2009-10-15 Thread Rick Justice
Hi Jose,
No, the only updates until the end of the life cycle for XP, will be 
security updates.
HTH,
Rick Justice
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From: Jose Lomeli joselom...@pghmail.com
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2009 10:43 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Question on uninstalling outlook express 6,and 
applications running office 2003.


Hi, Rick, So their is no way to upgrade Outlook express even if
your using XP home?
Jose Lomeli
Email: joselom...@pghmail.com
Website: http://all4webs.com/q/2/jlomeli9393

 - Original Message -
From: Rick Justice ricjust...@jaws-users.com
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Date sent: Thu, 15 Oct 2009 10:21:29 -0400
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Question on uninstalling outlook
express 6,and applications running office 2003.

Hi Albert,
There is no version of Outlook Express higher than 6.
Microsoft replaced Outlook Express with Windows Mail, in Vista,
and to the
best of my knowledge,
the only mail client that ships with Office is Microsoft Outlook.
What problems are you experiencing with Outlook Express?
HTH,
Rick Justice
- Original Message -
From: Albert Cutolo acut...@nyc.rr.com
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2009 9:26 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Question on uninstalling outlook express
6,and
applications running office 2003.


Good morning everyone.

I have office 2003 installed on my desktop computer, as well as
jaws 10 with
windows xp home addition with all available service packs.  My
question here
is , if I were to uninstall office 2003 and replace it with
office 2007,
and replace my current version of outlook express 6 with the
newer version
of outlook express that comes with office 2007, would I then have
to
completely uninstall office 2003 first, before installing office
2007?  I'm
asking this, because my current version of outlook express 6,
has, and is
giving me real problems here that I can't seem too resolve   nor
do I have
an opportunity too have a technician that I can call on to help
me fix these
problems that I am having with my current version of outlook
express 6.



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[JAWS-Users] Word backups

2009-10-15 Thread Alan Dicey

Dear Vicki,
I think doing a Search would help you find your Word Backup files!

Just type *.Wbk and see what that does!

I do not  have my Word set to save backups,  on the computer I am using now, 
but  I did in a previous computer, and I even had to do this  once in a 
while to delete all my Word Back Up files!


With Best Regards,
Alan
Miami, Florida
Alan Dicey, President

United States Braille Chess Association - USBCA

Yes, Blind or Visually Impaired People Can, and Do, Play Chess!!!

United States Braille Chess Association Home Page: 
http://www.crisscrosstech.com/usbca/


- Original Message - 
From: Vicki vwher...@comcast.net

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2009 6:02 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Word backups


Interesting. I have the backup feature checked and time marked, but it
doesn't seem to be working. I'll have to do some more digging and see what
the problem is. In prier versions of Word, I know there was a folder under
Microsoft Office Word where all the backups went, but I can't find that
either. Thank you for looking.


Vicki

O Morning, how hast thou grabbed me.
--- an fear as Kilshanny
- Original Message - 
From: Jon Pierson joncpier...@comcast.net

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2009 5:38 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Word backups


Hi Vicki,
I Googled word 2003 backups stored in and got a page containing:
This info applies to versions up through 2003.

When you turn on the backup
feature, Word saves backup files by appending or prepending some special
text to your file name. In some versions of Word, the WBK filename 
extension

is
used instead of the familiar DOC. In other versions of Word, the DOC
extension is used by Word adds the phrase Backup of to the beginning of
the document
name.

Let's say that you have two directories, and in each one you have 
different

documents but each has the same name, as in MyLetter.doc. If you have
backups
turned on, and Word allows you to specify where the backups are placed, 
then

the names for the backups of the two different files would be the same
(either
MyLetter.wbk or Backup of MyLetter.doc), and two files with the same name
cannot be saved in the same folder. The solution is for Word to simply 
keep

the
backup copy of a document in the same folder as the original copy. That 
way,

you don't run into naming conflicts at all.

Jon




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From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Vicki
Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2009 12:29 AM
To: JAW'S Users
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Word backups

I posted a question a few days ago asking where the Word 2002 and 2003
backup documents are stored, but I didn't see an answer come in. I 
apologize

if I missed it. Could someone please repost that answer if it was posted?
thanks.

Vicki

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--- an fear as Kilshanny


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[JAWS-Users] problum with the scripts forPamelaBasicJAWSScripts .exe

2009-10-15 Thread Mich
Hi all. there is a problum with the scripts forPamelaBasicJAWSScripts .exe when 
I try to install the self installing version I get the following 
---
Setup
---
Runtime Error (at 7:460):



Internal error: ExtractTemporaryFile: The file PamelaBasicJAWSScripts.zip was 
not found.
---
OK   
--- 
I have downloaded the PamelaBasicJAWSScripts.zip but have no idea what to do 
with them after I exstract them. can some one please help? many thanks. from 
Mich.
  
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Re: [JAWS-Users] question about windows 7

2009-10-15 Thread Donald Marang
I think it would be more correct to say that Microsoft took too long to 
develop Vista, released it too soon, and made many PR mistakes rolling it 
out.  Vista works well now, and much more secure than XP.  For me, it's main 
remaining problem is that it requires too much resources.  It seems that 
Microsoft has learned from their Vista mistakes.  Windows is a streamlined 
version of Vista and needs less memory CPU and hard disk!


The only free upgrade from Vista to Windows 7 is if you purchased a computer 
within the last few months.  I have not heard of any other free upgrades, 
and doubt if they would do that.  There was a pre-order upgrade for $50, but 
that offer is no longer available.  These upgrade packages can be applied to 
either Vista or XP.  Windows 7 Premium is the most logical upgrade for most 
people.  There is now a family pack available for about $150 that allows 
upgrading 3 computers.  I hear that there is also a discount student version 
for around $30.  It seems that all that is necessary to qualify for this 
discount is an email ending with .edu.


Don Marang


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From: Larry Stansifer lar...@infowest.com

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2009 6:25 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] question about windows 7



One of the IT guys at work mentioned something about that
because Vista was so buggy Microsoft was offering a free
upgrade from Vista to Windows7, have you heard anything to
either substantiate or deny that rumor?

TNX

Larry

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Jimmy Podsim
Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2009 10:00 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] question about windows 7


Well, I know some blind people who were running the beta and
RC and I've heard nothing but good about it.  Of course,
there are many people who don't like Microsoft or anything
they make.  I've also heard good things about how JAWS
interacts with it and it sounds like it will be a better
experience with jaws and windows 7 than it was with jaws and
Vista.



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Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] question about windows 7

Ah, thanks.
I heard someone say that on the news today and believed that
it would be
worth it for XP users and not vista users but ones' persons'
opinion doesn't

have to be someones decision, though.
Just asking that's all, good evening.


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Re: [JAWS-Users] question about windows 7

2009-10-15 Thread Larry Stansifer
Frankly Don that makes more sense.
Does Windows 7 Premium require the JFW Pro Key? and what
versions of Jaws will work with the afore mentioned?

TNX

Larry

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Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2009 12:30 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] question about windows 7


I think it would be more correct to say that Microsoft took
too long to 
develop Vista, released it too soon, and made many PR
mistakes rolling it 
out.  Vista works well now, and much more secure than XP.
For me, it's main 
remaining problem is that it requires too much resources.
It seems that 
Microsoft has learned from their Vista mistakes.  Windows is
a streamlined 
version of Vista and needs less memory CPU and hard disk!

The only free upgrade from Vista to Windows 7 is if you
purchased a computer 
within the last few months.  I have not heard of any other
free upgrades, 
and doubt if they would do that.  There was a pre-order
upgrade for $50, but 
that offer is no longer available.  These upgrade packages
can be applied to 
either Vista or XP.  Windows 7 Premium is the most logical
upgrade for most 
people.  There is now a family pack available for about $150
that allows 
upgrading 3 computers.  I hear that there is also a discount
student version 
for around $30.  It seems that all that is necessary to
qualify for this 
discount is an email ending with .edu.

Don Marang


- Original Message - 
From: Larry Stansifer lar...@infowest.com
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2009 6:25 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] question about windows 7


 One of the IT guys at work mentioned something about that
because 
 Vista was so buggy Microsoft was offering a free upgrade
from Vista to 
 Windows7, have you heard anything to either substantiate
or deny that 
 rumor?

 TNX

 Larry

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 From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com
 [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf
Of Jimmy 
 Podsim
 Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2009 10:00 PM
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] question about windows 7


 Well, I know some blind people who were running the beta
and RC and 
 I've heard nothing but good about it.  Of course, there
are many 
 people who don't like Microsoft or anything they make.
I've also 
 heard good things about how JAWS interacts with it and it
sounds like 
 it will be a better experience with jaws and windows 7
than it was 
 with jaws and Vista.



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Of Kimsan
 Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2009 10:06 PM
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] question about windows 7

 Ah, thanks.
 I heard someone say that on the news today and believed
that it would 
 be worth it for XP users and not vista users but ones'
persons'
 opinion doesn't

 have to be someones decision, though.
 Just asking that's all, good evening.


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Re: [JAWS-Users] problum with the scripts forPamelaBasicJAWSScripts .exe

2009-10-15 Thread Donald Marang

Hi Mitch,

I am not familiar with those particular scripts.  Many scripts can be 
installed by simply copying all of the files into the JAWS user settings 
folder for the version of JAWS you are using for that application and 
compiling them.  Most of the time there is a ReadMe or similar text file is 
included in the zip file.  If there is, there might be instructions and 
usage instructions in that file.  The installer is capable of performing 
other tasks as well.  If there are no instructions, try the following:

1.  Download and extract the zip file for the scripts.

2.  Select all files in this folder with Control + A and Then Copy with 
Control + C.


3.  Open the JAWS user settings folder for the version of JAWS in use.  This 
can be accomplished by selecting
All Programs  JAWS 10.0 (or whatever version of JAWS desired)  Explore 
JAWS  Explore My Settings

from the Start menu.

4.  Paste the files with Control + V.

5.  Open the application for these scripts.

6.  Press Insert + 0 (in the numbers row) to open Script Manager with the 
script source file opened.


7.  Press Control + S to save the file and compile it for your version of 
JAWS.


8.  Close Script Manager by pressing Alt + F4.

The scripts should now work.  You may need to close the application and 
restart it for the scripts to be loaded.


Don Marang

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Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2009 2:18 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] problum with the scripts forPamelaBasicJAWSScripts 
.exe



Hi all. there is a problum with the scripts forPamelaBasicJAWSScripts .exe 
when I try to install the self installing version I get the 
following ---

Setup
---
Runtime Error (at 7:460):



Internal error: ExtractTemporaryFile: The file 
PamelaBasicJAWSScripts.zip was not found.

---
OK
--- 
I have downloaded the PamelaBasicJAWSScripts.zip but have no idea what to 
do with them after I exstract them. can some one please help? many thanks. 
from Mich.


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[JAWS-Users] outlook express Imp

2009-10-15 Thread Lenny McHugh
Well, I hope that I got rid of the Imp. Since I could not find any pattern 
or software that was causing the outlook express settings from being 
automagically changed, I suspect something is messed up in one of the system 
files. I did some internet searching and found a few year old post about 
similar problems and that there was a security update. Even though I have 
auto updates checked I went to look for updates to Microsoft software. There 
were quite a few that I installed. about 25 including some driver updates. 
Only time will tell if this corrected the problem.  There is one thing that 
I installed that I will remove something about a windows search procedure. 
On the task bar it states indexing complete. The one big problem that I had 
with the driver updates was one was for my video. When the computer 
restarted it was checked to install the video intercept for Jaws. I could 
only read that line. It took my wife, sighted, to click on the install 
button. Not sure why I could not read anything else on the screen with 
either cursor. It took about six hours for all of the updates.

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Re: [JAWS-Users] question about windows 7

2009-10-15 Thread Donald Marang

Hi Larry,

No a JFW Pro Key is not required for Premium.  I would recommend JAWS 11 for 
use with Windows 7.  It seems that most things work well with JAWS 10 also.


Don Marang


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From: Larry Stansifer lar...@infowest.com

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2009 2:58 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] question about windows 7



Frankly Don that makes more sense.
Does Windows 7 Premium require the JFW Pro Key? and what
versions of Jaws will work with the afore mentioned?

TNX

Larry

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[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of
Donald Marang
Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2009 12:30 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] question about windows 7


I think it would be more correct to say that Microsoft took
too long to
develop Vista, released it too soon, and made many PR
mistakes rolling it
out.  Vista works well now, and much more secure than XP.
For me, it's main
remaining problem is that it requires too much resources.
It seems that
Microsoft has learned from their Vista mistakes.  Windows is
a streamlined
version of Vista and needs less memory CPU and hard disk!

The only free upgrade from Vista to Windows 7 is if you
purchased a computer
within the last few months.  I have not heard of any other
free upgrades,
and doubt if they would do that.  There was a pre-order
upgrade for $50, but
that offer is no longer available.  These upgrade packages
can be applied to
either Vista or XP.  Windows 7 Premium is the most logical
upgrade for most
people.  There is now a family pack available for about $150
that allows
upgrading 3 computers.  I hear that there is also a discount
student version
for around $30.  It seems that all that is necessary to
qualify for this
discount is an email ending with .edu.

Don Marang


- Original Message - 
From: Larry Stansifer lar...@infowest.com

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2009 6:25 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] question about windows 7



One of the IT guys at work mentioned something about that

because

Vista was so buggy Microsoft was offering a free upgrade

from Vista to

Windows7, have you heard anything to either substantiate

or deny that

rumor?

TNX

Larry

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[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf

Of Jimmy

Podsim
Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2009 10:00 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] question about windows 7


Well, I know some blind people who were running the beta

and RC and

I've heard nothing but good about it.  Of course, there

are many

people who don't like Microsoft or anything they make.

I've also

heard good things about how JAWS interacts with it and it

sounds like

it will be a better experience with jaws and windows 7

than it was

with jaws and Vista.



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[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf

Of Kimsan

Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2009 10:06 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] question about windows 7

Ah, thanks.
I heard someone say that on the news today and believed

that it would

be worth it for XP users and not vista users but ones'

persons'

opinion doesn't

have to be someones decision, though.
Just asking that's all, good evening.


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Re: [JAWS-Users] outlook express Imp

2009-10-15 Thread Alan Dicey

Hello Friends,
I have not allowed my Automatic Updates  to continue for a few months, 
since I read about the I. E. 7 situation, as I only have JAWS 9.0156 on my 
XP-Home machine!


I am not worried so much about Security,as I am about downloading 
something in the Windows Updates that will mess up a perfectly working 
system, my thinking, is of course:

If it ain't broke, don't fix it

And as I said things are just working so perfectly, two (2) T-Drives, 
fantastic sound system, no problems with JAWS or anything!


Can anyone tell me why I should allow the updates, and if so, what should I 
be weary of?


I do not want to update to JAWS 10 nor 11 at this time, and JAWS 9 is 
working fine, but will any of the current updates mess up JAWS 9.0156?


Thanks for any assistance you can provide me in the way of information!

With Best Regards,
Alan
Miami, Florida
Alan Dicey, President

United States Braille Chess Association - USBCA

Yes, Blind or Visually Impaired People Can, and Do, Play Chess!!!

United States Braille Chess Association Home Page: 
http://www.crisscrosstech.com/usbca/


- Original Message - 
From: Lenny McHugh lmch...@verizon.net

To: jaws-users-list jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2009 3:19 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] outlook express Imp Well, I hope that I got rid of the 
Imp. Since I could not find any pattern

or software that was causing the outlook express settings from being
automagically changed, I suspect something is messed up in one of the 
system

files. I did some internet searching and found a few year old post about
similar problems and that there was a security update. Even though I have
auto updates checked I went to look for updates to Microsoft software. 
There

were quite a few that I installed. about 25 including some driver updates.
Only time will tell if this corrected the problem.  There is one thing 
that

I installed that I will remove something about a windows search procedure.
On the task bar it states indexing complete. The one big problem that I 
had

with the driver updates was one was for my video. When the computer
restarted it was checked to install the video intercept for Jaws. I could
only read that line. It took my wife, sighted, to click on the install
button. Not sure why I could not read anything else on the screen with
either cursor. It took about six hours for all of the updates.

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Replying Directly to Sender with OE and version 11

2009-10-15 Thread Gary Jackson
yes,

i see the same problem and reported it to fs as a vug in jaws 11.  please 
report it.

gary


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From: Roger Levine 
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com 
Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 5:33 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Replying Directly to Sender with OE and version 11


Hi Listers, 
In jaws 11 (all builds) the Replying Directly to Sender in oE (shift+jaws 
key+R) doesn't function consistently, maybe only one out of ten times.   I am 
using OE and XP Pro.  Version 10 appeared to be alright. I would be curious if 
anyone else is also having this problem. 
Roger
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Re: [JAWS-Users] outlook express Imp

2009-10-15 Thread Gerald Levy


It is absolutely critical that you install all security updates to plug up 
security holes in Windows and IE.  Failing to install these updates could 
leave you vulnerable to a malware attack.  These updates should not 
interfere with JAWS in any way.  You should never disable Automatic Updates 
unless you enjoy dealing with the consequences of a virus attack. The adage 
If it ain't broke, don't fix it certainly does not apply here, because 
without these updates, your computer maywell wind up broken sooner or later. 
I have never encountered a problem with these updates messing up JAWS or IE. 
I'm also running JAWS 9 with XP.


Gerald
- Original Message - 
From: Alan Dicey adi...@bellsouth.net

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2009 5:14 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] outlook express Imp



Hello Friends,
I have not allowed my Automatic Updates  to continue for a few months, 
since I read about the I. E. 7 situation, as I only have JAWS 9.0156 on my 
XP-Home machine!


I am not worried so much about Security,as I am about downloading 
something in the Windows Updates that will mess up a perfectly working 
system, my thinking, is of course:

If it ain't broke, don't fix it

And as I said things are just working so perfectly, two (2) T-Drives, 
fantastic sound system, no problems with JAWS or anything!


Can anyone tell me why I should allow the updates, and if so, what should 
I be weary of?


I do not want to update to JAWS 10 nor 11 at this time, and JAWS 9 is 
working fine, but will any of the current updates mess up JAWS 9.0156?


Thanks for any assistance you can provide me in the way of information!

With Best Regards,
Alan
Miami, Florida
Alan Dicey, President

United States Braille Chess Association - USBCA

Yes, Blind or Visually Impaired People Can, and Do, Play Chess!!!

United States Braille Chess Association Home Page: 
http://www.crisscrosstech.com/usbca/


- Original Message - 
From: Lenny McHugh lmch...@verizon.net

To: jaws-users-list jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2009 3:19 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] outlook express Imp Well, I hope that I got rid of 
the Imp. Since I could not find any pattern

or software that was causing the outlook express settings from being
automagically changed, I suspect something is messed up in one of the 
system

files. I did some internet searching and found a few year old post about
similar problems and that there was a security update. Even though I have
auto updates checked I went to look for updates to Microsoft software. 
There
were quite a few that I installed. about 25 including some driver 
updates.
Only time will tell if this corrected the problem.  There is one thing 
that
I installed that I will remove something about a windows search 
procedure.
On the task bar it states indexing complete. The one big problem that I 
had

with the driver updates was one was for my video. When the computer
restarted it was checked to install the video intercept for Jaws. I could
only read that line. It took my wife, sighted, to click on the install
button. Not sure why I could not read anything else on the screen with
either cursor. It took about six hours for all of the updates.

---
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with many resources for the blind.
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Re: [JAWS-Users] goldwave. problem

2009-10-15 Thread tim
That would depend on what format the movie is in, if avi then yes, 
other types may need more care, but yes the sound can be extracted 
from the movie.


At 08:30 PM 10/14/2009, you wrote:
I do not no much  about goldwave so this may be a stupid 
question,  but,  Can I convert  from a movie file on my computer the 
movie has picture and all,  can i make a audio movie from that movie 
file with goldwave?  thanks,  amber

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[JAWS-Users] definition of a toolbar

2009-10-15 Thread Kimsan
Hi,
I looked up on wikipedia for the definition of a tool bar and I am still trying 
to figure it out.  I'm not talking about the google toolbar add bar toolbar, 
just a definition of a tool bar.
Finally, does a desktop have a toolbar, if so how would I access it, does the 
start menue have a toolbar, how would I access  it.
I thought I would ask someone here who would speak the jaws lingo.  
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Re: [JAWS-Users] outlook express Imp

2009-10-15 Thread Flor Lynch
While it is true that some people have encountered problems at times 
with windows updates having been installed (at least initially), 
Microsoft has normally introduced fixes within a fshort time: so that 
the updates now available will fix nearly all problems (where there were 
any) with Windows updates.


- Original Message - 
From: Gerald Levy bwaylimi...@verizon.net

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2009 11:03 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] outlook express Imp




It is absolutely critical that you install all security updates to 
plug up security holes in Windows and IE.  Failing to install these 
updates could leave you vulnerable to a malware attack.  These updates 
should not interfere with JAWS in any way.  You should never disable 
Automatic Updates unless you enjoy dealing with the consequences of a 
virus attack. The adage If it ain't broke, don't fix it certainly 
does not apply here, because without these updates, your computer 
maywell wind up broken sooner or later. I have never encountered a 
problem with these updates messing up JAWS or IE. I'm also running 
JAWS 9 with XP.


Gerald
- Original Message - 

From: Alan Dicey adi...@bellsouth.net

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2009 5:14 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] outlook express Imp



Hello Friends,
I have not allowed my Automatic Updates  to continue for a few 
months, since I read about the I. E. 7 situation, as I only have JAWS 
9.0156 on my XP-Home machine!


I am not worried so much about Security,as I am about 
downloading something in the Windows Updates that will mess up a 
perfectly working system, my thinking, is of course:

If it ain't broke, don't fix it

And as I said things are just working so perfectly, two (2) T-Drives, 
fantastic sound system, no problems with JAWS or anything!


Can anyone tell me why I should allow the updates, and if so, what 
should I be weary of?


I do not want to update to JAWS 10 nor 11 at this time, and JAWS 9 is 
working fine, but will any of the current updates mess up JAWS 
9.0156?


Thanks for any assistance you can provide me in the way of 
information!


With Best Regards,
Alan
Miami, Florida
Alan Dicey, President

United States Braille Chess Association - USBCA

Yes, Blind or Visually Impaired People Can, and Do, Play Chess!!!

United States Braille Chess Association Home Page: 
http://www.crisscrosstech.com/usbca/


- Original Message - 
From: Lenny McHugh lmch...@verizon.net

To: jaws-users-list jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2009 3:19 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] outlook express Imp Well, I hope that I got rid 
of the Imp. Since I could not find any pattern

or software that was causing the outlook express settings from being
automagically changed, I suspect something is messed up in one of 
the system
files. I did some internet searching and found a few year old post 
about
similar problems and that there was a security update. Even though I 
have
auto updates checked I went to look for updates to Microsoft 
software. There
were quite a few that I installed. about 25 including some driver 
updates.
Only time will tell if this corrected the problem.  There is one 
thing that
I installed that I will remove something about a windows search 
procedure.
On the task bar it states indexing complete. The one big problem 
that I had

with the driver updates was one was for my video. When the computer
restarted it was checked to install the video intercept for Jaws. I 
could
only read that line. It took my wife, sighted, to click on the 
install
button. Not sure why I could not read anything else on the screen 
with

either cursor. It took about six hours for all of the updates.

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Re: [JAWS-Users] definition of a toolbar

2009-10-15 Thread Mike Barbara
Hi Kimsan,

Here is an answer I received after asking pretty much the same question.
It sounds like you are asking for general information that explains what
toolbars are and how to access them using JAWS.

I will use Microsoft Word for examples, but the information below does not
apply to Microsoft Word 2007.

In addition to having a menu bar, many programs also have one or more
toolbars that are generally found near the top of the program's window.  The
toolbars give people the ability to use a mouse to click on a function that
they want to do instead of having to search through levels of menus or
dialog boxes to perform the functions.  The toolbars are usually positioned
horizontally from left to right and quite often are positioned just under
the menu bar.  There are programs that have toolbars positioned vertically.
A toolbar can have several small graphical pictures and might or might not
be labeled with text labels.  An example of a toolbar is the standard
toolbar in Microsoft Word.  A few of the choices on the standard toolbar are
New blank document, Open, save, print, mail recipient, spell checking
among others.  Mouse users can move the mouse across the toolbar and click
on the choice for the function they want performed.

There are many toolbars included in some programs.  Quite often toolbars can
be made active by going under a view menu with Alt-V, using the up or down
arrow to find the toolbar choice, using right arrow to move into the toolbar
submenu and then using up or down arrows to find the toolbar you want.  In
Microsoft Word there will be several toolbars.  If you want to work with
forms then press enter on the forms toolbar choice.  If you want to work
with drawing tools then press enter on that choice.  The standard and
formatting toolbars in Microsoft Word should be left checked.  When using up
or down arrows through the toolbars submenu listen for whether an item is
checked or not.  If it is checked it is already active and in use.  Simply
press enter on a choice to reverse the status, in other words if it says
checked and you press enter you will remove the toolbar from the screen and
visa versa.

In Microsoft Word to access a toolbar that is active first press Alt or Alt
with an underlined letter on the menu bar to move to the menus.  After
moving to the menu bar use the keystroke CTRL+tab to cycle between available
toolbars and the menu bar.  You will learn which choices are on what
toolbars and what to listen for to know it is the toolbar you want.  For
example, you listen for New blank document to know you are on the standard
toolbar.

Once on the toolbar you want you can use right and left arrows to move
across the toolbar.  Pressing enter on a choice performs the function.  For
example, if you right arrow across the standard toolbar to the E-mail
recipient button and press enter, the headers to fill in for your E-mail
message will appear.

In HTML formatted E-mail, help systems, Internet browsers like Internet
Explorer, etc., you access an active toolbar by using Insert-F8, (the insert
key on the number pad when the numlock key is off with the function key 8).
When the toolbar appears then you can up and down arrow to choices.

It is important to remember that most things a person uses the toolbars for
can be accomplished by using menus or with hotkeys.  This isn't always true
though.

This has been a quick general overview or synopsis of what a toolbar is
and how to access toolbars using JAWS.  Let me know if I can clarify any of
the points I made.

Brian Lee
brianl...@charter.net



One point that I would like to add is that some tool bars are floating tool
bars.  This means that they will appear some place on the screen other then
under the menu bar or the standard tool bar, and these floating toolbars
move.  You can still navigate to them as described in Brian's excellent
post.  Sometimes these floating tool bars can cause JAWS to have problems
reading the contents of your screen.

HTH,
Annette

Hello,
Press Jaws key+F8 different items will come out regarding the program that
you use.

In Internet Explorer the insert+F8 only brings up the IE toolbar.  The
insert-F8 keystroke is generally mapped to the function for showing the
active application's toolbar.  Sometimes by moving to the top of a web page
using CTRL+home keys, routing JAWS to virtual PC, doing a page up and then
moving down a line at a time with the down arrow key will find other
toolbars.  If you do find your toolbar then you can move a word at a time
across it using CTRL+right arrow until you find the tool you want to click.
Use a left mouse click emulation by using the insert+slash keys on the
numpad when numlock is off.  After clicking on the choice remember to put
the virtual PC cursor on again.

Some one else might have a better way to access other toolbars in Internet
Explorer.  The above sometimes works for me and sometimes doesn't work.

To perform the above functions if you have a laptop using 

Re: [JAWS-Users] Question on uninstalling outlook express 6, and applications running office 2003.

2009-10-15 Thread Albert Cutolo

Hello Rick.

Let me try and answer your   question, as to what problems I'm experiencing 
when using outlook express 6.  When I delete a message, or any message for 
that matter, when I open the message after the one that I just deleted, I 
hear the whole subject line of the previous message, and not the subject 
line of that new message that I just opened.  Next, whenever I do a reply to 
an individual message, or do a reply too all, when I go to the top of the 
message too review what I had written,  it won't let me read either 
character by character, or when trying too do a controlright arrow or 
control left arrow, the cursor doesn't advance, and I have too close the 
message entirely, and start the whole message all over again. I even tried 
deleting both the inbox, and out box, thinking that might solve the problem, 
but it didn't work.  I even renaimed all of the inbox out box, sent items 
and deleted items folders, and still was a no go.  Now, here's a strange 
thing.  On my new netbook computer which I received a few months ago, it 
came with office 2007 preinstalled on it, along with the choice of either 
installing outlook, or outlook express.  I chose too install outlook express 
as my email service. Originally, when I first got this desktop dell 
computer, which was sometime in July of 2002, it came with  word 2002, with 
I suppose office 2002 as well.  However, when   a friend came over who is a 
technision,  He gave me a copy of his office 2003, which he installed on my 
computer. I think he did that for me, because he didn't want me to spend 
extra money for office 2003, which he already had.  I didn't ask him for it 
at all, he just tried to do me a nice favor as a friend.  So, there you have 
it in a nutshell.  Thank you for answering my email, and for trying too help 
me out with this problem. 




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Re: [JAWS-Users] Automatic Updates

2009-10-15 Thread Moderator
Just wanted to change the subject line to reflect the topic being 
discussed.
Richard Q. Justice-list moderator
blind-comput...@jaws-users.com
jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
openb...@jaws-users.com

- Original Message - 
From: Alan Dicey adi...@bellsouth.net
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2009 5:14 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] outlook express Imp


Hello Friends,
I have not allowed my Automatic Updates  to continue for a few months,
since I read about the I. E. 7 situation, as I only have JAWS 9.0156 on my
XP-Home machine!

I am not worried so much about Security,as I am about downloading
something in the Windows Updates that will mess up a perfectly working
system, my thinking, is of course:
If it ain't broke, don't fix it

And as I said things are just working so perfectly, two (2) T-Drives,
fantastic sound system, no problems with JAWS or anything!

Can anyone tell me why I should allow the updates, and if so, what should I
be weary of?

I do not want to update to JAWS 10 nor 11 at this time, and JAWS 9 is
working fine, but will any of the current updates mess up JAWS 9.0156?

Thanks for any assistance you can provide me in the way of information!

With Best Regards,
Alan
Miami, Florida
Alan Dicey, President

United States Braille Chess Association - USBCA

Yes, Blind or Visually Impaired People Can, and Do, Play Chess!!!

United States Braille Chess Association Home Page:
http://www.crisscrosstech.com/usbca/

- Original Message - 
From: Lenny McHugh lmch...@verizon.net
To: jaws-users-list jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2009 3:19 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] outlook express Imp Well, I hope that I got rid of the
Imp. Since I could not find any pattern
 or software that was causing the outlook express settings from being
 automagically changed, I suspect something is messed up in one of the
 system
 files. I did some internet searching and found a few year old post about
 similar problems and that there was a security update. Even though I have
 auto updates checked I went to look for updates to Microsoft software.
 There
 were quite a few that I installed. about 25 including some driver updates.
 Only time will tell if this corrected the problem.  There is one thing
 that
 I installed that I will remove something about a windows search procedure.
 On the task bar it states indexing complete. The one big problem that I
 had
 with the driver updates was one was for my video. When the computer
 restarted it was checked to install the video intercept for Jaws. I could
 only read that line. It took my wife, sighted, to click on the install
 button. Not sure why I could not read anything else on the screen with
 either cursor. It took about six hours for all of the updates.

 ---
 Please visit my home page; it is motivational, inspirational and humorous
 with many resources for the blind.
 http://www.lennymchugh.com
 Lenny
 Please Copy and Paste into New Message to pass along. Use BCC line when
 addressing.
 Help stop identity theft.


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Question on uninstalling outlook express 6, and applications running office 2003.

2009-10-15 Thread Rick Justice
Hi Albert,
I don't recall if you said which version of Jaws you are using,
but have you tried using a different version to see if that makes a 
difference.
The problem you describe does not really sound like an Outlook Express 
issue.

Rick Justice
- Original Message - 
From: Albert Cutolo acut...@nyc.rr.com
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2009 8:37 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Question on uninstalling outlook express 6,and 
applications running office 2003.


Hello Rick.

Let me try and answer your   question, as to what problems I'm experiencing
when using outlook express 6.  When I delete a message, or any message for
that matter, when I open the message after the one that I just deleted, I
hear the whole subject line of the previous message, and not the subject
line of that new message that I just opened.  Next, whenever I do a reply to
an individual message, or do a reply too all, when I go to the top of the
message too review what I had written,  it won't let me read either
character by character, or when trying too do a controlright arrow or
control left arrow, the cursor doesn't advance, and I have too close the
message entirely, and start the whole message all over again. I even tried
deleting both the inbox, and out box, thinking that might solve the problem,
but it didn't work.  I even renaimed all of the inbox out box, sent items
and deleted items folders, and still was a no go.  Now, here's a strange
thing.  On my new netbook computer which I received a few months ago, it
came with office 2007 preinstalled on it, along with the choice of either
installing outlook, or outlook express.  I chose too install outlook express
as my email service. Originally, when I first got this desktop dell
computer, which was sometime in July of 2002, it came with  word 2002, with
I suppose office 2002 as well.  However, when   a friend came over who is a
technision,  He gave me a copy of his office 2003, which he installed on my
computer. I think he did that for me, because he didn't want me to spend
extra money for office 2003, which he already had.  I didn't ask him for it
at all, he just tried to do me a nice favor as a friend.  So, there you have
it in a nutshell.  Thank you for answering my email, and for trying too help
me out with this problem.



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Re: [JAWS-Users] Automatic Updates

2009-10-15 Thread Rick Justice
Hi Alan,
There are tutorials on Windows automatic updates on both:
www.blind-computing.com
and
www.jaws-users.com
If you set up automatic updates correctly, you can choose which updates to 
install.
Security updates should always be installed, and can always be un-installed 
if there seems to be some conflict.
On quite a few different machines over a 9 year period,
I have never really experienced a problem resulting from a Windows update.
HTH,
Rick Justice
- Original Message - 
From: Moderator modera...@jaws-users.com
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2009 8:52 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Automatic Updates


Just wanted to change the subject line to reflect the topic being
discussed.
Richard Q. Justice-list moderator
blind-comput...@jaws-users.com
jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
openb...@jaws-users.com

- Original Message - 
From: Alan Dicey adi...@bellsouth.net
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2009 5:14 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] outlook express Imp


Hello Friends,
I have not allowed my Automatic Updates  to continue for a few months,
since I read about the I. E. 7 situation, as I only have JAWS 9.0156 on my
XP-Home machine!

I am not worried so much about Security,as I am about downloading
something in the Windows Updates that will mess up a perfectly working
system, my thinking, is of course:
If it ain't broke, don't fix it

And as I said things are just working so perfectly, two (2) T-Drives,
fantastic sound system, no problems with JAWS or anything!

Can anyone tell me why I should allow the updates, and if so, what should I
be weary of?

I do not want to update to JAWS 10 nor 11 at this time, and JAWS 9 is
working fine, but will any of the current updates mess up JAWS 9.0156?

Thanks for any assistance you can provide me in the way of information!

With Best Regards,
Alan
Miami, Florida
Alan Dicey, President

United States Braille Chess Association - USBCA

Yes, Blind or Visually Impaired People Can, and Do, Play Chess!!!

United States Braille Chess Association Home Page:
http://www.crisscrosstech.com/usbca/

- Original Message - 
From: Lenny McHugh lmch...@verizon.net
To: jaws-users-list jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2009 3:19 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] outlook express Imp Well, I hope that I got rid of the
Imp. Since I could not find any pattern
 or software that was causing the outlook express settings from being
 automagically changed, I suspect something is messed up in one of the
 system
 files. I did some internet searching and found a few year old post about
 similar problems and that there was a security update. Even though I have
 auto updates checked I went to look for updates to Microsoft software.
 There
 were quite a few that I installed. about 25 including some driver updates.
 Only time will tell if this corrected the problem.  There is one thing
 that
 I installed that I will remove something about a windows search procedure.
 On the task bar it states indexing complete. The one big problem that I
 had
 with the driver updates was one was for my video. When the computer
 restarted it was checked to install the video intercept for Jaws. I could
 only read that line. It took my wife, sighted, to click on the install
 button. Not sure why I could not read anything else on the screen with
 either cursor. It took about six hours for all of the updates.

 ---
 Please visit my home page; it is motivational, inspirational and humorous
 with many resources for the blind.
 http://www.lennymchugh.com
 Lenny
 Please Copy and Paste into New Message to pass along. Use BCC line when
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Automatic Updates

2009-10-15 Thread ChB
I have never had any problems installing updates. They are
good to get to keep up with the latest improvements and
security patches. If you do not want the latest IE, then
unmark this and it won't be included in the updates any
more, in the future.
chrissy



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Re: [JAWS-Users] Question on uninstalling outlook express 6, and applications running office 2003.

2009-10-15 Thread Albert Cutolo
I forgot to mention in my last post on this subject, that I've tried doing a 
jaws 10 repair, as well as maximizing the window before composing a new 
message, and it was to no avail.  I didn't have any of these problems with 
outlook express 6, until I received and installed jaws 10 from the cd that 
they sent me in the mail. I realize that there are people on this list that 
are very loyal jaws users, but I'm beginning to think that they should 
address many of the current problems  that people are experiencing, either 
with outlook express 6, outlook, word versions such as those experienced 
when using word 2002, 2003, the inability of jaws stating whether or not 
after something has been selected copied or pasted.  What good does it do 
any of us, to come out with newer versions of existing programs if older 
problems that people are experiencing don't get fixed before they release 
newer versions of jaws  . 




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[JAWS-Users] control f4 and control w

2009-10-15 Thread Lenny McHugh
I found this interesting. I have multiple pages loaded at startup with IE8. 
to close a page I normally used control plus W. I accidentally discovered 
that control plus F4 accomplishes the same thing. If there is no other use 
for control we this key combination could be reassigned for another use. Or 
am I missing something?
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Re: [JAWS-Users] control f4 and control w

2009-10-15 Thread Kimsan

How would a key be reasigned?
Don't go around saying the world owes you a living. The world owes you 
nothing. It was here first. - Mark Twain




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Re: [JAWS-Users] definition of a toolbar

2009-10-15 Thread Kimsan
Thanks Mike, Brian is one smart fella if I say so myself. He actually taught 
me everything I know now. He use to be my jaws instructor many moons ago.
Don't go around saying the world owes you a living. The world owes you 
nothing. It was here first. - Mark Twain




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