Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws accessibility with Google talk

2011-08-28 Thread Bharat
although it may sound I am trying to under-estimate you but trust me, that's 
not the case at all. when you extracted the scripts, did you copy the 
scripts themselves or the extracted folder? because, they did work for me 
for sometime till I upgraded to the latest builds of jaws 12. now the 
scripts no more work with jaws in the chat window at all, while they still 
work in the messenger window, telling you who all are online & what are 
their status messages.
   I was hoping I would be able to find some way to recreate the jss file 
for the scripts, so as to be able to modify & add the necessary things in 
them but unfortunately, jaws has no documentation around retrieving the lost 
jss files. writing across to some honchos for the same at fs also yielded no 
positive results for the same.

   I am sorry, I have no experience with using AIM. have never used it.

--
From: "harshil ved" 
Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2011 10:03 AM
To: 
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws accessability with google talk


Hi Bharat,
I did download the scriptsw and pasted it on the enu folder but still
it does not help. Can you help me a bit more with the same!

And at the same time I did download the AIM set up file but I am
unable to download it. Can you throw some light on how do I go about
it!

Thanks,
Harshil.

On 8/27/11, Bharat  wrote:

please go to the following page:

http://sites.google.com/site/aruni100/

& download the scripts from there, & see if those scripts work for you.
though they don't seem to work with JAWS12.

--
From: "harshil ved" 
Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2011 9:06 PM
To: 
Subject: [JAWS-Users] jaws accessability with google talk


Hello, Is Google talk accessable with jaws? If yes are there any scripts
for it!
If any one uses it please reply. Help would be greatly appreciated.
I am using Jaws 11
Harshil

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 12 messages in WLM

2011-08-28 Thread kimsan
Wlm 2011 works well for me, even the chatting part...


kimsans...@aol.com

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You can make the groups yes, but as far as the chatting goes I really don't
know.
 


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Re: [JAWS-Users] saving verbosity settings

2011-08-28 Thread Ann Byrne
To save settings permanently use the settings center, not 
verbosity.  Press JAWSkey+f2, arrow to settings center, and go from 
there.  You can alter settings either for the program in use or for 
the whole system.



hi,

how to save verbosity settings permanently in jaws 12?  also suggest
accessible cd / dvd burning program which will work with win 7 and
jaws 12?

thanks
prashant

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[JAWS-Users] jaws 9.0 with Thunderbird and Firefox

2011-08-28 Thread Doris and Chris
I'm helping a friend with getting her computer set up. she has jaws 
9.0  on her 2k box. Before anyone suggests upgrading, this is not an 
option.Her computer won't run anything newer than 2k and jaws 9.0 is 
the latest jaws version to run on win 2k anyway and she can't afford 
upgrading jaws either.



She is trying to use Thunderbird 3.1 and Firefox 3.6 on her machine. 
I made sure that she is running the latest jaws 9.0 build available 
from Fs's website.


Are there scripts for Thunderbird that wil work with jaws 9.0?

Firefox is working fairly well with jaws 9.0. However, the Firefox 
scripts are not being called so that some of the Firefox specific 
keystrokes are not available when running firefox 3.x. I vaguely 
remember reading some time ago that there was a fix for this by which 
jaws could be made to load the firefox scripts properly when 
encoutering a firefox 3.x version. Could someone please refresh my 
memory on how to do this?


Thanks much.

Doris


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Help With Display of Emails. y keep all the information and listen to the mp3's but I am stiol in the process of redoeri w

2011-08-28 Thread Mandy

Thanks
for all of this - I now have my emails saying who they are from etc but now 
although both email accounts are shown, the only way to see all of my 
messages is to have all inboxes showing because otherwise I don't think read 
messages show up.
I will definitely listen to the MP3's but currently trying to sort out my 
laptop after a total hard-drive crash.

So this bit more info would be highly appreciated

:  how do I get the two folders to show up one beneath the other with all of 
the folders within each, inbox, sent items etc.
I had the problem like the example you showed  where it said columns 
unavailable.

Mandy.
Rafanatic
-Original Message- 
From: inthane

Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2011 9:18 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Help With Display of Emails.

ok the big trouble is I don't know and neither do you, the "translation"
from menu's to ribbons, but I have some tutorials on windows live mail, so
hopefully one of them will give you the information you need.

first is:
for an audio tutorial on using windows live mail!
go too:
www.accessibleworld.org
and look for the presentation by someone named Mr.  Asner.
Its an MP3 file that you can download and listen too.


here is another good one:
http://email.about.com/od/windowsmailtips/Windows_Mail_Tips_Tricks_and_Secrets.htm


ok now this sounds very similar to your troubles and the fix for them:

ok, this is a corrected and headers removed version of a series of Emails
concerning the "HOW it reads" and the altering of this in windows live mail,
I've put them back in the order they came in instead of the last is first
chronology they wind up in to make reading easier for folks.

starting in correct order from first request to end of problem fix, first
post:

 hello folks

 in windows vista and XP I was able to sort how emails were viewed and read
by jaws. my emails are now being read by. the name of the sender first then
the date then the time then the subject and then which folder it is in. can
I sort this so the subject is being read first then the sender and then the
date and time if I want it. or maybe stop the date and time and folder which
it is being read from not to be announced. I cant find any options in the
view menu to do this. many thanks in advance.

 regards
 Vincent

next:


Hi Vincent,

you can open the Columns dialog from the view menu - I think this allows
you to do what you want to do,

David.

next:
hello David

it is saying all the time that columns are unavailable. I thought that was
were I done it in vista and XP. but it says unavailable. can you suggest how
to activate this.

regards
Vincent


Next:
this is one thing to try:
1. Open the layout dialog on the view menu.
2. Move to the Message list button, and press it using spacebar.
3. When you do this, the button expands and shows some text and controls
which Jaws (and probably other screen readers don't automatically read.
What's there is the text Show messages using: followed by a group of three
radio buttons: Choose view automatically;
two-line view; and one-line view. By default it seems to be set to choose
view automatically, and on my machine if it's set to that or the one-line
view, then I can access the columns dialog. However if it's set to two line
view, the the columns dialog is unavailable, and the reading order of
subject, date etc is as you've previously described. The easiest was to set
an option is to use it's access key:
Choose view automatically (alt+u), two-line view (alt+t), one-line view
(alt+o). Once you've used an access key jaws reads it, and you can the use
up and down arrows to read the other options if you want to. (The other way
of accessing the options if to route jaws to cursor, read a word at a time
to get to any word in the options, and then route pc to jaws cursor).

best wishes,
David.

ok, hope these help you with that trouble!
you may be able to find a list for the ribbon commands on the microsoft
site, I have one, but its for word 2010 and its ribbon, not WLM.

the last thing is there is a program that returns the ribbons to menu like
arrangements if you would want to install it, but I'd really try to get used
to the ribbons since more and more things are starting to use them!

take care,
inthaneelf


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- Original Message - 
From: "Mandy" 

To: 
Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2011 4:19 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Help With Display of Emails.



Hi.

Again I fail to follow instructions because this is what happens.

Open email programme and alt h brings up virtual ribbon home tab.
Cursoring down brings up
Lower ribbon new submenu,

Delete submenue, respond submenu, actions submenu, tools submenu, group 
submenu new submenu.

It then starts again so wh

Re: [JAWS-Users] Issue with IE8 Jaws9 & Windows XP

2011-08-28 Thread Doris and Chris
jaws 9.0 only marginally supports ie 8.0. Make sure you are using the 
very latest build of jaws 9.0 available for download from fs's 
website and not the initial relese you got  on cd or a subsequent 
earlier update.


If this menu problem only occurs in IE, you may also want to consider 
using Firefox as an alternative browser. If using jaws 9.0, use 
Firefox 3.6, which is currently still being maintained and updated.


You may also want to download and install the latest jaws 12 build 
and run it in 40-minute demo mode to see if the problem with ie 8.0 
persists when you run the latest version of jaws. jaws 12 should 
coexist peacefully with your earlier version  and be available in 
demo mode when needed.


Make sure you have all the latest updates and patches for Windows 
installed and that your video card drivers are up to date and that 
you have your windows color depth and screen resolution set up 
appropriately. the problem you describe with the menu bar sound a bit 
like what i have seen in some programs where I needed to define 
custom background colors to get the menu bar to read but this should 
not be an issue in Internet Explorer.


also, you may want to give nvda a try it is very good for web 
browsing and a lot of other everyday tasks and a good alternative  or 
backup screenreader especially when you cannot afford running the 
latest and greatest of the comercial offerings.


hth

Doris




At 03:51 AM 8/28/2011, you wrote:
Hello all & thank you very much for taking your time to read this 
correspondence. Recently my computer crashed & I had to go back & 
get my old desktop computer out & hook up. The issue I am currently 
having is when I use the alt key whilst using IE8 & Jaws9 the menu 
bar is not read. It will read file, edit, view, etc when I use my 
left & right arrow keys. However it does not read the menus when I 
use up & down arrow keys. Anyone know of a fix for this issue? 
Thanks in advance for any help you are able to give me in resolving this issue.

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[JAWS-Users] Issue with IE8 Jaws9 & Windows XP

2011-08-28 Thread Sean Paul
Hello all & thank you very much for taking your time to read this 
correspondence. Recently my computer crashed & I had to go back & get my old 
desktop computer out & hook up. The issue I am currently having is when I use 
the alt key whilst using IE8 & Jaws9 the menu bar is not read. It will read 
file, edit, view, etc when I use my left & right arrow keys. However it does 
not read the menus when I use up & down arrow keys. Anyone know of a fix for 
this issue? Thanks in advance for any help you are able to give me in resolving 
this issue.
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[JAWS-Users] saving verbosity settings

2011-08-28 Thread Prashant Naik
hi,

how to save verbosity settings permanently in jaws 12?  also suggest
accessible cd / dvd burning program which will work with win 7 and
jaws 12?

thanks
prashant

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Re: [JAWS-Users] windows live keystrokes;

2011-08-28 Thread inthane
thank you Dave, was just going to go look for something like this, smile 
glad I decided to finish checking my Emails first!


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- Original Message - 
From: "David" 

To: 
Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2011 5:13 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] windows live keystrokes;




Here are some keystrokes for windows live mail 2011,
This should help folks who are using the ribbon.

These might be useful
Using keyboard shortcuts for the ribbon:

•   To access a specific ribbon tab press the shortcut key for the 
ribbon

tab required (shown at the top of each section).
•   To access a function within that ribbon press the accelerator 
shortcut

letter or letters to access the desired function on that ribbon tab.

For example to reply to a message using the ribbon do the following:

1   Press ALT+H for the “Home” tab.
2   Press letter R, then R again to access the “reply” button.


Main window:
The main window consists of the following ribbon tabs:

•   File = ALT+F
•   Home = ALT+H
•   Folders = ALT+O
•   View = ALT+V
•   Accounts = ALT+S

File (ALT+F)
New N
SaveS
Import mail I
Export mail E
Options O
About   B
ExitX


Home (ALT+H)
Email message   E
Photo mail  P
Items   O
JunkJ
Delete  D
Reply   RR
Replay all  RA
Forward RF
Add to calendar IA
Read/Unread toggle  IR
MoveIM
FlagIF
Watch   IW
Copy to IC
FindFI
Send/ReceiveTS
Work offlineTO
Sign in N


Folders (ALT+O)
New folder  NF
Mark all read   AU
Copy to IC
MoveIM
FindFI
Go to   G
Previous messageFP
Next messageFN
Next unread U
Message rules   R


View (ALT+V)
New ViewVN
ViewVW
Quick views VQ
Filer messages  VF
Conversations   SC
Sort order  SO
Sort By SB
Message listLM
Reading paneLR
Calendar pane   LP
Compact viewLC
Quick views LQ
Compact shortcuts   LS
Storage folders LF
Status bar  LB


Accounts (ALT+S)
Email   E
Newsgroup   N
Properties  P
IMAP foldersF
Show deleted messageS
View downloaded messagesV



Message Window:
The message window consists of the following tabs accessed by shortcut 
keys:


•   File = ALT+F
•   Message = ALT+I
•   Message = ALT+M
•   Options = ALT+O

File Tab (ALT+F)
SaveS
Save File   F
Close   C


Message TAB (ALT+I)
Attach file IA
Business carIB
Horizontal line L
Photo album Y1
Single photoY2
Hyperlink   K
EmoticonY3


Message TAB (ALT+M)
BoldB
Italic  I1
Underline   U
Strike out  H
Subscript   N
Superscript M1
Highlight   FH
FontFC
Align Left  AL
Centre  AC
Align Right AR
Justify AJ
Plain Text  TP
Attach File IA
Photo Album Y1
Hyperlink   K
Emoticons   Y2
Other   IO



Options tab (ALT+O)
Send later  S:
Encrypt message Y1
Digitally sign  Y2
Message encodingTE


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Help With Display of Emails.

2011-08-28 Thread inthane
ok the big trouble is I don't know and neither do you, the "translation" 
from menu's to ribbons, but I have some tutorials on windows live mail, so 
hopefully one of them will give you the information you need.


first is:
for an audio tutorial on using windows live mail!
go too:
www.accessibleworld.org
and look for the presentation by someone named Mr.  Asner.
Its an MP3 file that you can download and listen too.


here is another good one:
http://email.about.com/od/windowsmailtips/Windows_Mail_Tips_Tricks_and_Secrets.htm


ok now this sounds very similar to your troubles and the fix for them:

ok, this is a corrected and headers removed version of a series of Emails 
concerning the "HOW it reads" and the altering of this in windows live mail, 
I've put them back in the order they came in instead of the last is first 
chronology they wind up in to make reading easier for folks.


starting in correct order from first request to end of problem fix, first 
post:


 hello folks

 in windows vista and XP I was able to sort how emails were viewed and read 
by jaws. my emails are now being read by. the name of the sender first then 
the date then the time then the subject and then which folder it is in. can 
I sort this so the subject is being read first then the sender and then the 
date and time if I want it. or maybe stop the date and time and folder which 
it is being read from not to be announced. I cant find any options in the 
view menu to do this. many thanks in advance.


 regards
 Vincent

next:


Hi Vincent,

you can open the Columns dialog from the view menu - I think this allows 
you to do what you want to do,


David.

next:
hello David

it is saying all the time that columns are unavailable. I thought that was 
were I done it in vista and XP. but it says unavailable. can you suggest how 
to activate this.


regards
Vincent


Next:
this is one thing to try:
1. Open the layout dialog on the view menu.
2. Move to the Message list button, and press it using spacebar.
3. When you do this, the button expands and shows some text and controls 
which Jaws (and probably other screen readers don't automatically read. 
What's there is the text Show messages using: followed by a group of three 
radio buttons: Choose view automatically;
two-line view; and one-line view. By default it seems to be set to choose 
view automatically, and on my machine if it's set to that or the one-line 
view, then I can access the columns dialog. However if it's set to two line 
view, the the columns dialog is unavailable, and the reading order of 
subject, date etc is as you've previously described. The easiest was to set 
an option is to use it's access key:
Choose view automatically (alt+u), two-line view (alt+t), one-line view 
(alt+o). Once you've used an access key jaws reads it, and you can the use 
up and down arrows to read the other options if you want to. (The other way 
of accessing the options if to route jaws to cursor, read a word at a time 
to get to any word in the options, and then route pc to jaws cursor).


best wishes,
David.

ok, hope these help you with that trouble!
you may be able to find a list for the ribbon commands on the microsoft 
site, I have one, but its for word 2010 and its ribbon, not WLM.


the last thing is there is a program that returns the ribbons to menu like 
arrangements if you would want to install it, but I'd really try to get used 
to the ribbons since more and more things are starting to use them!


take care,
inthaneelf


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. Owner: Alacorn Computer Enterprises
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www.alacorncomputer.com
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- Original Message - 
From: "Mandy" 

To: 
Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2011 4:19 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Help With Display of Emails.



Hi.

Again I fail to follow instructions because this is what happens.

Open email programme and alt h brings up virtual ribbon home tab.
Cursoring down brings up
Lower ribbon new submenu,

Delete submenue, respond submenu, actions submenu, tools submenu, group 
submenu new submenu.

It then starts again so what now?

Mandy.

Rafanatic
-Original Message- 
From: inthane

Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2011 4:30 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Help With Display of Emails.

ok, gal, go to your mail program, hit alt and h, arrow down to the "about"
option and enter on it.

now, hit the keys alt and insert and w to "virtualized the screen of
information you should have up at this time.
hit control and a to copy it all, then open a new email to us and paste it
in and send it to us, something is odd here and we need to see what 
exactly

your working with and anything else that may show up here!

HTH,
inthane
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.