[JAWS-Users] R: jaws and yahoo mail
You may try m.yahoo.com.. Angela from Italy -Messaggio originale- Da: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] Per conto di Judy Inviato: giovedì 18 luglio 2013 04:28 A: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Oggetto: [JAWS-Users] jaws and yahoo mail Hello all, I use outlook for my email at home, but I have another yahoo email address that I use for other things. When I signed into Yahoo I always had the classic yahoo mail setting. A week or so ago when I tried to go to yahoo mail at home here with that other email it didn't work properly. I can't do anything with it. It looked to somebody who looked at it that it had updated to the new yahoo mail. I can't get jaws to do much of anything with it and in reading up on this I am not the only one. I know this will affect more than jaws users, but that is who we all are on this list. There seems to be no way to change things to get yourself back to the classic mail setting. If not, it seems this is an accessibility issue with yahoo that needs to be addressed. I did not change anything, they did it. What has been others experiences with yahoo mail? Again, I am using windows 7 and jaws 13. Thanks in advance. Judy Tallie For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ -- Caselle da 1GB, trasmetti allegati fino a 3GB e in piu' IMAP, POP3 e SMTP autenticato? GRATIS solo con Email.it http://www.email.it/f Sponsor: Misano Adriatico Hotel tre stelle: speciale Luglio-Agosto per una vacanza senza pensieri, BIMBI GRATIS. Chiama subito, la disponibilita' e' limitata Clicca qui: http://adv.email.it/cgi-bin/foclick.cgi?mid=12983d=18-7 For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
[JAWS-Users] JDF file and Irish language.
Hi everyone. Does anyone know if the jaws dictionary manager will only allow a certain number of entries in a jdf file. I'm using jaws 11 and for the last 17 months I've been inputting Irish words and their correct pronunciations into a jdf file. All of a sudden, the jdf file seems to have stopped accepting and saving any new entries. Any thoughts. Damien. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Need Help Disabling JAWS from Speaking an AnnoyingMessage.
Hy Mike B. That did the trick! Thanks so much for the help :P At 08:55 PM 7/17/2013, you wrote: Hi Salien, Have you tried putting the sentence, feature only available in virtual document into the default dictionary manager, Actual word edit field, putting a space with the spacebar into the, replacement word edit field? If not, give it a try to see if that will take care of the problem. HTH Take care. Mike This email was sent from my, iBarstool. - Original Message - From: Salien Brown To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2013 1:14 PM Subject: [JAWS-Users] Need Help Disabling JAWS from Speaking an AnnoyingMessage. Hey gang, I'm using JAWS 14 (Latest build) with a TripleTalk USB under Windows 7 64 bit Home. I need to know how to stop JAWS from always saying the message feature only available in virtual document. Whenever I use a feature in Internet Explorer that requires the Virtual Cursor to be active. I tried editing the common.jsm file and placing a ; in front of the statement, saved it, and then recompiled the Internet Explorer.jss file, but JAWS still keeps speaking the message. Can someone give me instructions on how to make this happen? Thanks. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws and yahoo mail
I imagine I must be out of the ordinary because I prefer to simply pay the $19.99 a year for pop access and it works like a charm. David Ferrin A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from a simpler system that worked perfectly. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Kelsey Nicolay Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2013 10:53 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws and yahoo mail I've had the same problem. I just re-activated my yahoo account and it wanted me to use the new mail system as well. I had no choice but to use it. I'll try the mobile site and see what happens. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws and yahoo mail
Hi David, In some case, this isn't always a choice. For example, my ISP uses Yahoo servers, as does A T T and SBC Global, all of which use Yahoo servers for e-mail provision. This means that these services also have spam folders that need to be checked every so often. Granted, the spam feature can be turned off, and all mail can routed through to the inbox, but unless one stores their mail on the server, and then is able to surf the site to mark certain messages as spam or not spam, any spam features your client has is virtually useless, since all it will do is simply divert any messages it thinks are spam to the deleted items folder or junk mail folders, and that usually doesn't help at all, since spammers hardly ever use the same e-mail address twice. In any case, regardless of whether you want to turn off the spam feature or not, one still must surf the site in order to turn this setting on or off, and believe me, that's not so easy to do in this new Yahoo Mail configuration. Scorpio For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] JDF file and Irish language.
Hi Damien, This would be a good question for Freedom Scientific. Rick Justice Tomorrow's another day, another way! and if tomorrow never comes, problem solved! - Original Message - From: Damien O'Connor damienmocon...@eircom.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2013 6:09 AM Subject: [JAWS-Users] JDF file and Irish language. Hi everyone. Does anyone know if the jaws dictionary manager will only allow a certain number of entries in a jdf file. I'm using jaws 11 and for the last 17 months I've been inputting Irish words and their correct pronunciations into a jdf file. All of a sudden, the jdf file seems to have stopped accepting and saving any new entries. Any thoughts. Damien. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] JDF file and Irish language.
It does have a limit. At 06:09 AM 7/18/2013, you wrote: Hi everyone. Does anyone know if the jaws dictionary manager will only allow a certain number of entries in a jdf file. I'm using jaws 11 and for the last 17 months I've been inputting Irish words and their correct pronunciations into a jdf file. All of a sudden, the jdf file seems to have stopped accepting and saving any new entries. Any thoughts. Damien. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws and yahoo mail
Scorpio, I do not understand how this new Yahoo mail is completely accessible. Others on this list have also said they are having trouble, so it's not just me. My problem with all this is that I am an average computer user, and many of you on this list are much more technically savvy than I will ever be. I do not want to have to jump through seventeen hoops, stand on my head and do whatever else just to read my emaiol. Sighted people don't have to go through all these changes to do so. I couldn't figure out how to get the Yahoo mail to do absolutely anything. So even with my several years of knowledge with computers and jaws it isn't enough. To me that is too complicated. Thanks to all for the mobile yahoo site. I tried it and I can use it just fine. That is weird to me, but I won't question it. (smile) Judy Tallie -- On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 10:54 PM EDT Scorpio wrote: Hi Judy, The reason Yahoo doesn't do anything about it is because it is 100% accessible. The only problem is that people aren't taking the time to learn it, but from what I can tell, it is completely accessible with Jaws. Having said that though, you can use their mobile version at the following link: http://m.yahoo.com/w/ygo-mail%3B_ylt=A0KjqcaaV.dRJWsANg8p89w4?.intl=CA.lang=en-ca Unfortunately, you're only left with a list of 10 messages you can view at a time, and you have to enter on the folders link to view the rest of your folders, such as the drafts, sent items and spam folder, if you have it activated, but otherwise, it's just as accessible as the other version you're so used to seeing. Once you're finished checking the ten showing messages, enter on the older messages link, and you'll get ten more, and so on until you see all your messages. I know, it's a pain in the butt, but there's really no one we can blame for thise, save for Yahoo themselves, but I don't even think they can be blamed, since they're giving the majority of people what they asked for. My wife has nothing but good things to say about the new Yahoo interface, but she's sighted, and so doesn't experience the same problems we do. In any case, hope the above information helps you. Scorpio For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws and yahoo mail
David, what do you mean by pop access? What does that do? Thanks. Judy Tallie -- On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 7:26 AM EDT David Ferrin wrote: I imagine I must be out of the ordinary because I prefer to simply pay the $19.99 a year for pop access and it works like a charm. David Ferrin A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from a simpler system that worked perfectly. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Kelsey Nicolay Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2013 10:53 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws and yahoo mail I've had the same problem. I just re-activated my yahoo account and it wanted me to use the new mail system as well. I had no choice but to use it. I'll try the mobile site and see what happens. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws and yahoo mail
My wife can see fairly well and she is a professional database administrator yet she found the Yahoo page for their new interface less than an enjoyable experience. If she were not able to use the mouse on a minimal basis then it wouldn't work for her either. Never the less I purchased her a subscription as well to minimize the hassle. It is interesting that over the past several years web masters have been placing a never ending amount of useless junk on their pages to make them look more appealing and now people are reverting back to a more simpler time with pages that only seem to contain what is needed and very little else. David Ferrin Always be yourself because the people that matter don't mind, and the ones that mind don't matter. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Judith Pauza Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2013 1:00 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws and yahoo mail Scorpio, I do not understand how this new Yahoo mail is completely accessible. Others on this list have also said they are having trouble, so it's not just me. My problem with all this is that I am an average computer user, and many of you on this list are much more technically savvy than I will ever be. I do not want to have to jump through seventeen hoops, stand on my head and do whatever else just to read my emaiol. Sighted people don't have to go through all these changes to do so. I couldn't figure out how to get the Yahoo mail to do absolutely anything. So even with my several years of knowledge with computers and jaws it isn't enough. To me that is too complicated. Thanks to all for the mobile yahoo site. I tried it and I can use it just fine. That is weird to me, but I won't question it. (smile) Judy Tallie -- On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 10:54 PM EDT Scorpio wrote: Hi Judy, The reason Yahoo doesn't do anything about it is because it is 100% accessible. The only problem is that people aren't taking the time to learn it, but from what I can tell, it is completely accessible with Jaws. Having said that though, you can use their mobile version at the following link: http://m.yahoo.com/w/ygo-mail%3B_ylt=A0KjqcaaV.dRJWsANg8p89w4?.intl=CA.lan g=en-ca Unfortunately, you're only left with a list of 10 messages you can view at a time, and you have to enter on the folders link to view the rest of your folders, such as the drafts, sent items and spam folder, if you have it activated, but otherwise, it's just as accessible as the other version you're so used to seeing. Once you're finished checking the ten showing messages, enter on the older messages link, and you'll get ten more, and so on until you see all your messages. I know, it's a pain in the butt, but there's really no one we can blame for thise, save for Yahoo themselves, but I don't even think they can be blamed, since they're giving the majority of people what they asked for. My wife has nothing but good things to say about the new Yahoo interface, but she's sighted, and so doesn't experience the same problems we do. In any case, hope the above information helps you. Scorpio For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws and yahoo mail
One of the problems I have with Yahoo mail, is that it turns on application mode. I have to press Insert Z to turn back on the virtual cursor. Hope that helps. Thanks, -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Judith Pauza Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2013 12:00 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws and yahoo mail Scorpio, I do not understand how this new Yahoo mail is completely accessible. Others on this list have also said they are having trouble, so it's not just me. My problem with all this is that I am an average computer user, and many of you on this list are much more technically savvy than I will ever be. I do not want to have to jump through seventeen hoops, stand on my head and do whatever else just to read my emaiol. Sighted people don't have to go through all these changes to do so. I couldn't figure out how to get the Yahoo mail to do absolutely anything. So even with my several years of knowledge with computers and jaws it isn't enough. To me that is too complicated. Thanks to all for the mobile yahoo site. I tried it and I can use it just fine. That is weird to me, but I won't question it. (smile) Judy Tallie -- On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 10:54 PM EDT Scorpio wrote: Hi Judy, The reason Yahoo doesn't do anything about it is because it is 100% accessible. The only problem is that people aren't taking the time to learn it, but from what I can tell, it is completely accessible with Jaws. Having said that though, you can use their mobile version at the following link: http://m.yahoo.com/w/ygo-mail%3B_ylt=A0KjqcaaV.dRJWsANg8p89w4?.intl=CA.lang=en-ca Unfortunately, you're only left with a list of 10 messages you can view at a time, and you have to enter on the folders link to view the rest of your folders, such as the drafts, sent items and spam folder, if you have it activated, but otherwise, it's just as accessible as the other version you're so used to seeing. Once you're finished checking the ten showing messages, enter on the older messages link, and you'll get ten more, and so on until you see all your messages. I know, it's a pain in the butt, but there's really no one we can blame for thise, save for Yahoo themselves, but I don't even think they can be blamed, since they're giving the majority of people what they asked for. My wife has nothing but good things to say about the new Yahoo interface, but she's sighted, and so doesn't experience the same problems we do. In any case, hope the above information helps you. Scorpio For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws and yahoo mail
You can configure your email client of choice for example Outlook 2007 on this system to receive your Yahoo mail directly in to your inbox. Then if you want to every now and then visit the page to see what is in your Spam folder you can but for daily needs you can get your mail the same as if it were any other email service, GMail, com cast, road runner ETC. I have been using it for over 3 years already for a secondary account and eventually it will probably become my main address if at such time I ever go out of the web site business. David Ferrin Always be yourself because the people that matter don't mind, and the ones that mind don't matter. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Judith Pauza Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2013 2:18 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws and yahoo mail David, what do you mean by pop access? What does that do? Thanks. Judy Tallie -- On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 7:26 AM EDT David Ferrin wrote: I imagine I must be out of the ordinary because I prefer to simply pay the $19.99 a year for pop access and it works like a charm. David Ferrin A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from a simpler system that worked perfectly. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Kelsey Nicolay Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2013 10:53 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws and yahoo mail I've had the same problem. I just re-activated my yahoo account and it wanted me to use the new mail system as well. I had no choice but to use it. I'll try the mobile site and see what happens. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
[JAWS-Users] Does math talker work with jaws 11?
Hi, list members, I'll be taking a math for educators class in the fall and I'd like to know if Math Talker works well with jaws 11? Thank you for any information that you might have. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
[JAWS-Users] Mouse over
I have been using JAWS 13 and just downloaded 14. I have tried everything I can think of to activate a mouse over link and cannot seem to do it. Unfortunately, this is a work website that requires a log in so I can't have anyone look at it for input. I tried insert Windows key and semicolon. It said something about mouse over, which I can't remember, and there was an okay button, which did nothing. The mouse over element says it is a heading. It is called Departments. I need to go from there to several other layers to see a policy. The page says this: To choose a department, just click on the drop-down box and then on the department name. I see no kind of drop down box or anything else that I can work with. Can anyone give me advice on activating something that says mouse over with either 13 or 14? I am using I E 10 if that matters. Thanks. Joni For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
[JAWS-Users] Merge utility
Which settings will the merge utility merge from 13 to 14? I have never done this before, so is there anything I should consider before trying it? Will the settings remain in 13 if I choose to use it for some reason after performing a merge? Thanks. Joni For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws and yahoo mail
Yes it does help, the new yahoo is not as accessible like the ole one, and a lot of folks and custemors has been complaining, and Yahoo is now aware after a conference I and a lot of people had with them over a conference. I was not the chair person, but seems like there is a lot of blind individuals who just are not happy, but in the mean time we learn to the best of our ability...smile Blessings From Sugar -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Potter, Kurtis Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2013 11:29 AM To: 'jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com' Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws and yahoo mail One of the problems I have with Yahoo mail, is that it turns on application mode. I have to press Insert Z to turn back on the virtual cursor. Hope that helps. Thanks, -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Judith Pauza Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2013 12:00 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws and yahoo mail Scorpio, I do not understand how this new Yahoo mail is completely accessible. Others on this list have also said they are having trouble, so it's not just me. My problem with all this is that I am an average computer user, and many of you on this list are much more technically savvy than I will ever be. I do not want to have to jump through seventeen hoops, stand on my head and do whatever else just to read my emaiol. Sighted people don't have to go through all these changes to do so. I couldn't figure out how to get the Yahoo mail to do absolutely anything. So even with my several years of knowledge with computers and jaws it isn't enough. To me that is too complicated. Thanks to all for the mobile yahoo site. I tried it and I can use it just fine. That is weird to me, but I won't question it. (smile) Judy Tallie -- On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 10:54 PM EDT Scorpio wrote: Hi Judy, The reason Yahoo doesn't do anything about it is because it is 100% accessible. The only problem is that people aren't taking the time to learn it, but from what I can tell, it is completely accessible with Jaws. Having said that though, you can use their mobile version at the following link: http://m.yahoo.com/w/ygo-mail%3B_ylt=A0KjqcaaV.dRJWsANg8p89w4?.intl=CA.lan g=en-ca Unfortunately, you're only left with a list of 10 messages you can view at a time, and you have to enter on the folders link to view the rest of your folders, such as the drafts, sent items and spam folder, if you have it activated, but otherwise, it's just as accessible as the other version you're so used to seeing. Once you're finished checking the ten showing messages, enter on the older messages link, and you'll get ten more, and so on until you see all your messages. I know, it's a pain in the butt, but there's really no one we can blame for thise, save for Yahoo themselves, but I don't even think they can be blamed, since they're giving the majority of people what they asked for. My wife has nothing but good things to say about the new Yahoo interface, but she's sighted, and so doesn't experience the same problems we do. In any case, hope the above information helps you. Scorpio For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Mouse over
Hi, not sure quite what you are wanting to do but here is info from Freedom... OnMouseOvers Keystroke: INSERT+CTRL+ENTER Information below can be found here: http://www.freedomscientific.com/training/Surfs-Up/OnMouseOver.htm Web page authors use OnMouseOvers to display text or images when a visitor moves the mouse pointer over a particular part of the page. The Freedom Scientific Product Overview sample page provides an example of a way in which OnMouseOvers are often used. On this page, when a user moves the mouse pointer over one of the product names, which are actually graphic links, the page displays a brief summary of the product. When the user clicks the graphic, the page takes them to the Freedom Scientific Web site to provide additional resources. NOTE: Two different things happen here depending on whether you simply move the mouse cursor over the graphic or actually activate the link. JAWS says, OnMouseOver when you move to an element with an OnMouseOver. OnMouseOver is an attribute that Web page authors add to HTML elements to enable OnMouseOver functionality. Open the Freedom Scientific Product Overview sample page. Read through the page first. It is relatively short. Notice that after the first heading, there are four OnMouseOver links which JAWS identifies. Continue reading and you will hear a brief bit of text that begins This page is designed to demonstrate the use of the OnMouseOver attribute. When a mouse user moves the pointer over the image links ... Go ahead and read through this text. When you activate an OnMouseOver in the next series of steps, this text will change on the screen. Activating an OnMouseOver with JAWS actually moves the mouse cursor over the graphic for you. You do this by pressing INSERT+CTRL+ENTER when you hear JAWS announce OnMouseOver links. To see how JAWS interacts with OnMouseOvers on Web pages, do the following: Go to the Freedom Scientific Product Overview sample page and press DOWN ARROW until you move to the one of the graphic links with an OnMouseOver. Press INSERT+CTRL+ENTER to activate the OnMouseOver for that link. JAWS announces that the page has changed at a certain line. On the screen, the brief descriptive text that summarized how to use the page with a mouse is replaced by text that describes the product. Press J, type the line number JAWS spoke, and press ENTER. JAWS moves you directly to the place on the page where the new text is displayed. Using the Jump To Line command (J) in this manner allows you to read new information that appears on the page when you activate an OnMouseOver. Take a moment to read through the new text. Press SHIFT+J to move back to the graphic link. Holding down SHIFT when using the Jump To Line command moves you back to your previous location on the page. Press ENTER to activate the link. This takes you to the Freedom Scientific Web site. You can press BACKSPACE to return to the previous page. Try moving to the other OnMouseOver links and following these same steps for more practice. JAWS Tip: Notice how pressing ENTER and pressing INSERT+CTRL+ENTER can produce very different results with some Web page elements. Pressing INSERT+CTRL+ENTER simulates the effect of moving the mouse pointer over the element, while pressing ENTER simulates the effect of clicking the element. Back Jump to: Table of Contents Navigating Web Pages Temporary vs. Permanent Changes Tables Forms Frames Languages OnMouseOvers Dealing with Difficult Pages Using the JAWS Find Command Skim Reading PlaceMarkers Personalized Web Page Settings Speech and Sounds Schemes Custom LabelsSearch Engines Using HTML Help Systems Settings Packager ARIA Live Regions ARIA Live Regions, Atomic Next -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Joni Colver Sent: July 18, 2013 02:49 PM To: JAWS 2 Subject: [JAWS-Users] Mouse over I have been using JAWS 13 and just downloaded 14. I have tried everything I can think of to activate a mouse over link and cannot seem to do it. Unfortunately, this is a work website that requires a log in so I can't have anyone look at it for input. I tried insert Windows key and semicolon. It said something about mouse over, which I can't remember, and there was an okay button, which did nothing. The mouse over element says it is a heading. It is called Departments. I need to go from there to several other layers to see a policy. The page says this: To choose a department, just click on the drop-down box and then on the department name. I see no kind of drop down box or anything else that I can work with. Can anyone give me advice on activating something that says mouse over with either 13 or 14? I am using I E 10 if that matters. Thanks. Joni For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list
Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws and yahoo mail
Judy, they did not ask anyone, they just did it And so far it is not good Blessings From Sugar -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Judy Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2013 7:28 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] jaws and yahoo mail Hello all, I use outlook for my email at home, but I have another yahoo email address that I use for other things. When I signed into Yahoo I always had the classic yahoo mail setting. A week or so ago when I tried to go to yahoo mail at home here with that other email it didn't work properly. I can't do anything with it. It looked to somebody who looked at it that it had updated to the new yahoo mail. I can't get jaws to do much of anything with it and in reading up on this I am not the only one. I know this will affect more than jaws users, but that is who we all are on this list. There seems to be no way to change things to get yourself back to the classic mail setting. If not, it seems this is an accessibility issue with yahoo that needs to be addressed. I did not change anything, they did it. What has been others experiences with yahoo mail? Again, I am using windows 7 and jaws 13. Thanks in advance. Judy Tallie For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws and yahoo mail
It's terrible!!! I've been trying for two weeks since I updated to windows 7 and outlook and even my tech guy said I hate it and he is great! I even called Best Buy at the Geek Squad for their input and they won't even deal with it, Now that is something huh? I guess we have to try to work around it to the best way we can Hopefully Yahoo will get get it and change or make it a bit easier for us blind individuals.. In the mean time we keep trying sugar Blessings From Sugar -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Judith Pauza Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2013 10:00 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws and yahoo mail Scorpio, I do not understand how this new Yahoo mail is completely accessible. Others on this list have also said they are having trouble, so it's not just me. My problem with all this is that I am an average computer user, and many of you on this list are much more technically savvy than I will ever be. I do not want to have to jump through seventeen hoops, stand on my head and do whatever else just to read my emaiol. Sighted people don't have to go through all these changes to do so. I couldn't figure out how to get the Yahoo mail to do absolutely anything. So even with my several years of knowledge with computers and jaws it isn't enough. To me that is too complicated. Thanks to all for the mobile yahoo site. I tried it and I can use it just fine. That is weird to me, but I won't question it. (smile) Judy Tallie -- On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 10:54 PM EDT Scorpio wrote: Hi Judy, The reason Yahoo doesn't do anything about it is because it is 100% accessible. The only problem is that people aren't taking the time to learn it, but from what I can tell, it is completely accessible with Jaws. Having said that though, you can use their mobile version at the following link: http://m.yahoo.com/w/ygo-mail%3B_ylt=A0KjqcaaV.dRJWsANg8p89w4?.intl=CA.lan g=en-ca Unfortunately, you're only left with a list of 10 messages you can view at a time, and you have to enter on the folders link to view the rest of your folders, such as the drafts, sent items and spam folder, if you have it activated, but otherwise, it's just as accessible as the other version you're so used to seeing. Once you're finished checking the ten showing messages, enter on the older messages link, and you'll get ten more, and so on until you see all your messages. I know, it's a pain in the butt, but there's really no one we can blame for thise, save for Yahoo themselves, but I don't even think they can be blamed, since they're giving the majority of people what they asked for. My wife has nothing but good things to say about the new Yahoo interface, but she's sighted, and so doesn't experience the same problems we do. In any case, hope the above information helps you. Scorpio For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws and yahoo mail
You have to pay for the pop access with yahoo. At 02:18 PM 7/18/2013, you wrote: David, what do you mean by pop access? What does that do? Thanks. Judy Tallie -- On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 7:26 AM EDT David Ferrin wrote: I imagine I must be out of the ordinary because I prefer to simply pay the $19.99 a year for pop access and it works like a charm. David Ferrin A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from a simpler system that worked perfectly. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Kelsey Nicolay Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2013 10:53 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws and yahoo mail I've had the same problem. I just re-activated my yahoo account and it wanted me to use the new mail system as well. I had no choice but to use it. I'll try the mobile site and see what happens. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws and yahoo mail
That is good, when you say mobil does that mean only by cell phone? Sorry for my ignorance..I don't have a cell.. Just curious thanks Blessings From Sugar -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Candy Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2013 10:16 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws and yahoo mail I have great luck with the mobile Yahoo site. I am not very successful with the regular site especially since they changed it, but the mobile site still works fine. I can use the calendar the notes and the mail and access all my contacts just fine.br/br/Sent from Yahoo! Mail for iPhone For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Mouse over
After you've pressed the keys to find the MouseOver, which is what you did, then press control+JAWSKey+enter to activate it. JAWS will then tell you if it detected any changes. NOTE: It may be important to press the JAWSKey first, before the other two, for the key combo to work properly. - Original Message - From: Joni Colver earlyb...@tampabay.rr.com To: JAWS 2 jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2013 9:49 PM Subject: [JAWS-Users] Mouse over I have been using JAWS 13 and just downloaded 14. I have tried everything I can think of to activate a mouse over link and cannot seem to do it. Unfortunately, this is a work website that requires a log in so I can't have anyone look at it for input. I tried insert Windows key and semicolon. It said something about mouse over, which I can't remember, and there was an okay button, which did nothing. The mouse over element says it is a heading. It is called Departments. I need to go from there to several other layers to see a policy. The page says this: To choose a department, just click on the drop-down box and then on the department name. I see no kind of drop down box or anything else that I can work with. Can anyone give me advice on activating something that says mouse over with either 13 or 14? I am using I E 10 if that matters. Thanks. Joni For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws and yahoo mail
I believe that is stated in my first message, the average is around $1.70 a month. David Ferrin A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from a simpler system that worked perfectly. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of tim Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2013 6:01 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws and yahoo mail You have to pay for the pop access with yahoo. At 02:18 PM 7/18/2013, you wrote: David, what do you mean by pop access? What does that do? Thanks. Judy Tallie -- On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 7:26 AM EDT David Ferrin wrote: I imagine I must be out of the ordinary because I prefer to simply pay the $19.99 a year for pop access and it works like a charm. David Ferrin A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from a simpler system that worked perfectly. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Kelsey Nicolay Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2013 10:53 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws and yahoo mail I've had the same problem. I just re-activated my yahoo account and it wanted me to use the new mail system as well. I had no choice but to use it. I'll try the mobile site and see what happens. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Mouse over
Flor, I just tried that, but nothing changed. So, I will just have to assume this particular link is JAWS-proof, unfortunately, unless anyone else has some ideas. Thanks for your suggestion. Joni -Original Message- From: Flor Lynch After you've pressed the keys to find the MouseOver, which is what you did, then press control+JAWSKey+enter to activate it. JAWS will then tell you if it detected any changes. NOTE: It may be important to press the JAWSKey first, before the other two, for the key combo to work properly. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Mouse over
Do you have JAWS turned on to indicate OnMouseover links/elements? Did JAWS say, could not detect any changes, after the 3-in-1 keystroke? Or did it say nothing, and treat it as an ordinary link? If the latter, then you may not be doing the keystroke correctly, (thus my NOTE on it: The JAWSkey [or Insert key] first; then the control and enter keys together, in the three-in-one.) If possible, find some other OnMouseOver link, which may be more amenable, on which to practise. If JAWS detects a change after the onMouseover click, it will say, change detected at line xx and will (I think) position you on that line or near it. - Original Message - From: Joni Colver earlyb...@tampabay.rr.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2013 11:53 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Mouse over Flor, I just tried that, but nothing changed. So, I will just have to assume this particular link is JAWS-proof, unfortunately, unless anyone else has some ideas. Thanks for your suggestion. Joni -Original Message- From: Flor Lynch After you've pressed the keys to find the MouseOver, which is what you did, then press control+JAWSKey+enter to activate it. JAWS will then tell you if it detected any changes. NOTE: It may be important to press the JAWSKey first, before the other two, for the key combo to work properly. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws and yahoo mail
Uou don't need a mobil phone to use the movil stuff--facebook, Yahoo, whatever. It just cuts out a lot of garbage. Marilyn - Original Message - From: Sugar sugarsy...@sbcglobal.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2013 5:02 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws and yahoo mail : That is good, when you say mobil does that mean only by cell phone? : Sorry for my ignorance..I don't have a cell.. : Just curious : thanks : : Blessings From Sugar : : : -Original Message- : From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On : Behalf Of Candy : Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2013 10:16 PM : To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com : Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws and yahoo mail : : I have great luck with the mobile Yahoo site. I am not very successful with : the regular site especially since they changed it, but the mobile site still : works fine. I can use the calendar the notes and the mail and access all my : contacts just fine.br/br/Sent from Yahoo! Mail for iPhone For answers to : frequently asked questions about this list visit: : http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ : : : For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: : http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Merge utility
it will merge what settings it can, and won't try to merge those it cannot, from JAWS13 to JAWS14. The original settings will remain in JAWS13 afterwards. The merged settings will apply in JAWS14. it is also possible to do a JAWS settings merge from the lower version to a higher version on a per-application basis. - Original Message - From: Joni Colver earlyb...@tampabay.rr.com To: JAWS 2 jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2013 9:51 PM Subject: [JAWS-Users] Merge utility Which settings will the merge utility merge from 13 to 14? I have never done this before, so is there anything I should consider before trying it? Will the settings remain in 13 if I choose to use it for some reason after performing a merge? Thanks. Joni For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
[JAWS-Users] Dropbox use?
Hi all, I have XP and 14 and Internet Explorer 8. I've just downloaded Dropbox. I'm not sure how to use it. I copied and pasted everything that was in My Documents in to Dropbox. It took a while. My assumption is that Dropbox will keep all of these files/folders in the cloud and I could retrieve them from another computer or if I had a crash in the future. I'm not sure how to automatically save all of my e mails on to dropbox. The Dropbox site had a link to use the most current version of a browser. Is that necessary? Also, the computer is working extremely slow now. Please give advice on these issues. Thank you so much. Rich For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws and yahoo mail
Oh ok thanks for that info sugar Blessings From Sugar -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Marilyn Walker Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2013 5:08 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws and yahoo mail Uou don't need a mobil phone to use the movil stuff--facebook, Yahoo, whatever. It just cuts out a lot of garbage. Marilyn - Original Message - From: Sugar sugarsy...@sbcglobal.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2013 5:02 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws and yahoo mail : That is good, when you say mobil does that mean only by cell phone? : Sorry for my ignorance..I don't have a cell.. : Just curious : thanks : : Blessings From Sugar : : : -Original Message- : From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On : Behalf Of Candy : Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2013 10:16 PM : To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com : Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws and yahoo mail : : I have great luck with the mobile Yahoo site. I am not very successful with : the regular site especially since they changed it, but the mobile site still : works fine. I can use the calendar the notes and the mail and access all my : contacts just fine.br/br/Sent from Yahoo! Mail for iPhone For answers to : frequently asked questions about this list visit: : http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ : : : For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: : http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
