date:20170103

Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS-Users] Problem With Permanently Removing E-mails From Drafts Folder In Outlook 2016

2017-01-03 Thread Mr. Ed

Tom,
Why don't you just call the Microsoft Disability Line.
Mr. Ed

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2017 6:46 PM
To: 'Jaws users list'
Subject: [JAWS-Users] JAWS-Users] Problem With Permanently Removing E-mails
>From Drafts Folder In Outlook 2016

Cristobal:

I found where to switch my g-mail account to basic HTML view on the g-mail
web site, and discovered that the folders are much easier to navigate this
way.

However, I went into my drafts folder, and discarded all drafts;  but the
drafts still seem to be stuck in my Outlook 2016 drafts folder.

This now seems like an Outlook problem, and I'm not sure how to solve it
from here, since working within my g-mail account itself did not seem to
correct things.

Tom Behler

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Cristóbal
Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2017 6:59 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem With Permanently Removing E-mails From
Drafts Folder In Outlook 2016

If you find the standard  view for Gmail  too difficult  to navigate, you
can  always switch to the basic  HTML page and  access the drafts folder
from there.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2017 3:51 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem With Permanently Removing E-mails From
Drafts Folder In Outlook 2016

Mr.  Ed:

I tried the Shift delete key method several times for each of the three
e-mails that are now permanently stuck in my Outlook 2016 drafts folder, and
the messages keep re-appearing.

In other words, they just don't go away!

I have also tried going to the gmail web site, and deleting the messages
from my personal g-mail account.  But, I find the web site itself difficult
to navigate, and I have difficulty consistently getting to where I need to
go to delete those messages.

I guess my only option at this point would be to disconnect from the
internet, and see what happens from there.  That just doesn't seem like it
should be necessary, though!

Tom Behler

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mr. Ed
Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2017 1:24 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem With Permanently Removing E-mails From
Drafts Folder In Outlook 2016

Hi Tom,
Have you tried doing a shift + delete key. Then you should get a message box
that comes up asking you if you want to permanently delete the message.
Click yes and it should be gone.
Mr. Ed  

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Cristóbal
Sent: Monday, January 02, 2017 10:13 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem With Permanently Removing E-mails From
Drafts Folder In Outlook 2016

This  works when I've got a message  stuck  in the  outgoing folder.
If you're on wifi, just disable  the wireless on your machine and if you're
hard  wired, depending  on what system you're running, go into  adaptor
settings  or network (maybe someone  else can give you  specific
instructions) and  disable the connection. Then go  back and try  to  delete
the messages and  hopefully after they're gone, go  back  and  enable  your
internet.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Monday, January 02, 2017 6:49 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem With Permanently Removing E-mails From
Drafts Folder In Outlook 2016

How exactly can I do this without interrupting internet service for the rest
of the household?

Am not sure why Outlook refuses to permanently delete these messages.

The problem only occurs with the drafts folder.

Tom Behler

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Cristóbal
Sent: Monday, January 02, 2017 9:44 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem With Permanently Removing E-mails From
Drafts Folder In Outlook 2016

Try  disabling your  wi-fy/internet connection  and then delete.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Monday, January 02, 2017 6:23 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem With Permanently Removing E-mails From
Drafts Folder In Outlook 2016

George:

I did this, and the messages re-appeared in my Outlook 2016 drafts folder!

This, even after I opened them from my in-box, and deleted them.

Tom Behler

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of

Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS-Users] Problem With Permanently Removing E-mails From Drafts Folder In Outlook 2016

2017-01-03 Thread Cristóbal

Do you have your account configured as imap or  pop3? That would  make a
difference. If pop3, then  it's something to do on your  particular set up.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2017 4:46 PM
To: 'Jaws users list'
Subject: [JAWS-Users] JAWS-Users] Problem With Permanently Removing E-mails
>From Drafts Folder In Outlook 2016

Cristobal:

I found where to switch my g-mail account to basic HTML view on the g-mail
web site, and discovered that the folders are much easier to navigate this
way.

However, I went into my drafts folder, and discarded all drafts;  but the
drafts still seem to be stuck in my Outlook 2016 drafts folder.

This now seems like an Outlook problem, and I'm not sure how to solve it
from here, since working within my g-mail account itself did not seem to
correct things.

Tom Behler

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Cristóbal
Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2017 6:59 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem With Permanently Removing E-mails From
Drafts Folder In Outlook 2016

If you find the standard  view for Gmail  too difficult  to navigate, you
can  always switch to the basic  HTML page and  access the drafts folder
from there.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2017 3:51 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem With Permanently Removing E-mails From
Drafts Folder In Outlook 2016

Mr.  Ed:

I tried the Shift delete key method several times for each of the three
e-mails that are now permanently stuck in my Outlook 2016 drafts folder, and
the messages keep re-appearing.

In other words, they just don't go away!

I have also tried going to the gmail web site, and deleting the messages
from my personal g-mail account.  But, I find the web site itself difficult
to navigate, and I have difficulty consistently getting to where I need to
go to delete those messages.

I guess my only option at this point would be to disconnect from the
internet, and see what happens from there.  That just doesn't seem like it
should be necessary, though!

Tom Behler

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mr. Ed
Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2017 1:24 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem With Permanently Removing E-mails From
Drafts Folder In Outlook 2016

Hi Tom,
Have you tried doing a shift + delete key. Then you should get a message box
that comes up asking you if you want to permanently delete the message.
Click yes and it should be gone.
Mr. Ed  

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Cristóbal
Sent: Monday, January 02, 2017 10:13 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem With Permanently Removing E-mails From
Drafts Folder In Outlook 2016

This  works when I've got a message  stuck  in the  outgoing folder.
If you're on wifi, just disable  the wireless on your machine and if you're
hard  wired, depending  on what system you're running, go into  adaptor
settings  or network (maybe someone  else can give you  specific
instructions) and  disable the connection. Then go  back and try  to  delete
the messages and  hopefully after they're gone, go  back  and  enable  your
internet.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Monday, January 02, 2017 6:49 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem With Permanently Removing E-mails From
Drafts Folder In Outlook 2016

How exactly can I do this without interrupting internet service for the rest
of the household?

Am not sure why Outlook refuses to permanently delete these messages.

The problem only occurs with the drafts folder.

Tom Behler

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Cristóbal
Sent: Monday, January 02, 2017 9:44 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem With Permanently Removing E-mails From
Drafts Folder In Outlook 2016

Try  disabling your  wi-fy/internet connection  and then delete.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Monday, January 02, 2017 6:23 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem With Permanently Removing E-mails From
Drafts Folder In Outlook 2016

George:

I did this, and the messages re-appeared in my Outlook 2016 drafts folder!

This, even after I opened them from my in-box, and deleted them.

Tom Behler

-Original Message-
From:

Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows Mail Ap Question

2017-01-03 Thread Kimsan

Honestly between the two, I would use outlook.

The reasons why is with outlook, you are able to quickly navigate to the
folders you create, also easily create folders, message rules do not work in
the mail app where as it does in outlook.
The app if you do not like orgonomics then it's not for you, if you just do
the basic send and receive, it'll be fine.  As of right now, it's not the
greatest but useable and duable, and there might be improvements down the
road.

There are pros and cons with each, but when it comes down to it, I rather
use outlook primarily.
The mail app is native to windows 10, so type mail in the windows search,
and you will see the mail app. Press enter to launch it and follow the
prompts to set up your account.
Respectfully,
Kimsan Song
kimsans...@icloud.com

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Fred Adams
Sent: Tuesday, January 3, 2017 4:07 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows Mail Ap Question

Kimson, is it hard to install and setup?  How would you compare it to
outlook?  I am using outlook 2010 at present.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Kimsan
Sent: Tuesday, January 3, 2017 4:40 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows Mail Ap Question

It works wonderfully with jaws now.
Type in the search of the windows start, mail and the first result should be
the mail app.
Don't compare it to outlook, windows live, nor any other client, or you will
drive yourself bonkers.
I'm much quicker on outlook vs the mail appp but just used it for bordum and
it was just sitting there being neglected.

Respectfully,
Kimsan Song
kimsans...@icloud.com

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of jyandt.mar...@comcast.net
Sent: Tuesday, January 3, 2017 1:21 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Windows Mail Ap Question

Hi, gang.

Over the past several days, I have noticed a few post/inquiries regarding
the Windows Mail ap. Can anyone tell me how well it works with JAWS, and
where to find it? I have Windows 10, and JAWS 17. Thanks and Happy New Year.
Jerry
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem With Permanently Removing E-mails From Drafts Folder In Outlook 2016

2017-01-03 Thread Cristóbal

If you're in Gmail's standard view, then there's  going  to be a button at
the top of the screen saying "Basic HTML view". Clicking  on  that  will
take  you to the  more  traditional and screen  reader  friendly layout.
Once there, you'll be able to search for and  find the drafts folder easily.
With the Jaws  insert+f7 or a simple  Jaws search  for Drafts. 

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2017 4:07 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem With Permanently Removing E-mails From
Drafts Folder In Outlook 2016

Cristobal:

Can you tell me how to access the gmail.com HTML page, and what I need to do
from there to change my e-mail view?

Thank you!

Tom Behler


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Cristóbal
Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2017 6:59 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem With Permanently Removing E-mails From
Drafts Folder In Outlook 2016

If you find the standard  view for Gmail  too difficult  to navigate, you
can  always switch to the basic  HTML page and  access the drafts folder
from there.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2017 3:51 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem With Permanently Removing E-mails From
Drafts Folder In Outlook 2016

Mr.  Ed:

I tried the Shift delete key method several times for each of the three
e-mails that are now permanently stuck in my Outlook 2016 drafts folder, and
the messages keep re-appearing.

In other words, they just don't go away!

I have also tried going to the gmail web site, and deleting the messages
from my personal g-mail account.  But, I find the web site itself difficult
to navigate, and I have difficulty consistently getting to where I need to
go to delete those messages.

I guess my only option at this point would be to disconnect from the
internet, and see what happens from there.  That just doesn't seem like it
should be necessary, though!



Tom Behler


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mr. Ed
Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2017 1:24 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem With Permanently Removing E-mails From
Drafts Folder In Outlook 2016

Hi Tom,
Have you tried doing a shift + delete key. Then you should get a message box
that comes up asking you if you want to permanently delete the message.
Click yes and it should be gone.
Mr. Ed  

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Cristóbal
Sent: Monday, January 02, 2017 10:13 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem With Permanently Removing E-mails From
Drafts Folder In Outlook 2016

This  works when I've got a message  stuck  in the  outgoing folder.
If you're on wifi, just disable  the wireless on your machine and if you're
hard  wired, depending  on what system you're running, go into  adaptor
settings  or network (maybe someone  else can give you  specific
instructions) and  disable the connection. Then go  back and try  to  delete
the messages and  hopefully after they're gone, go  back  and  enable  your
internet.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Monday, January 02, 2017 6:49 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem With Permanently Removing E-mails From
Drafts Folder In Outlook 2016

How exactly can I do this without interrupting internet service for the rest
of the household?

Am not sure why Outlook refuses to permanently delete these messages.

The problem only occurs with the drafts folder.

Tom Behler


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Cristóbal
Sent: Monday, January 02, 2017 9:44 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem With Permanently Removing E-mails From
Drafts Folder In Outlook 2016

Try  disabling your  wi-fy/internet connection  and then delete.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Monday, January 02, 2017 6:23 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem With Permanently Removing E-mails From
Drafts Folder In Outlook 2016

George:

I did this, and the messages re-appeared in my Outlook 2016 drafts folder!

This, even after I opened them from my in-box, and deleted them.

Tom Behler


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of TheHangMan
Sent: Monday, January 02, 2017

Re: [JAWS-Users] keystroke to schedule recurring meeting in outlook 2010

2017-01-03 Thread David G. Carlson Via iPhone

ctrl g

Dave Carlson
Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 3, 2017, at 4:36 PM, Dujari, Prateek  wrote:

Hello gang.
Using Win8.1 and latest JFW18 version. Ctrl shift Q brings up the calendar form 
in Outlook to schedule a single occurrence meeting with one or more people. How 
do I schedule a recurring meeting with someone? Is there a keystroke combo to 
open that form?

prateek

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[JAWS-Users] JAWS-Users] Problem With Permanently Removing E-mails From Drafts Folder In Outlook 2016

2017-01-03 Thread Tom Behler

Cristobal:

I found where to switch my g-mail account to basic HTML view on the g-mail
web site, and discovered that the folders are much easier to navigate this
way.

However, I went into my drafts folder, and discarded all drafts;  but the
drafts still seem to be stuck in my Outlook 2016 drafts folder.

This now seems like an Outlook problem, and I'm not sure how to solve it
from here, since working within my g-mail account itself did not seem to
correct things.

Tom Behler


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Cristóbal
Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2017 6:59 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem With Permanently Removing E-mails From
Drafts Folder In Outlook 2016

If you find the standard  view for Gmail  too difficult  to navigate, you
can  always switch to the basic  HTML page and  access the drafts folder
from there.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2017 3:51 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem With Permanently Removing E-mails From
Drafts Folder In Outlook 2016

Mr.  Ed:

I tried the Shift delete key method several times for each of the three
e-mails that are now permanently stuck in my Outlook 2016 drafts folder, and
the messages keep re-appearing.

In other words, they just don't go away!

I have also tried going to the gmail web site, and deleting the messages
from my personal g-mail account.  But, I find the web site itself difficult
to navigate, and I have difficulty consistently getting to where I need to
go to delete those messages.

I guess my only option at this point would be to disconnect from the
internet, and see what happens from there.  That just doesn't seem like it
should be necessary, though!



Tom Behler


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mr. Ed
Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2017 1:24 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem With Permanently Removing E-mails From
Drafts Folder In Outlook 2016

Hi Tom,
Have you tried doing a shift + delete key. Then you should get a message box
that comes up asking you if you want to permanently delete the message.
Click yes and it should be gone.
Mr. Ed  

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Cristóbal
Sent: Monday, January 02, 2017 10:13 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem With Permanently Removing E-mails From
Drafts Folder In Outlook 2016

This  works when I've got a message  stuck  in the  outgoing folder.
If you're on wifi, just disable  the wireless on your machine and if you're
hard  wired, depending  on what system you're running, go into  adaptor
settings  or network (maybe someone  else can give you  specific
instructions) and  disable the connection. Then go  back and try  to  delete
the messages and  hopefully after they're gone, go  back  and  enable  your
internet.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Monday, January 02, 2017 6:49 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem With Permanently Removing E-mails From
Drafts Folder In Outlook 2016

How exactly can I do this without interrupting internet service for the rest
of the household?

Am not sure why Outlook refuses to permanently delete these messages.

The problem only occurs with the drafts folder.

Tom Behler


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Cristóbal
Sent: Monday, January 02, 2017 9:44 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem With Permanently Removing E-mails From
Drafts Folder In Outlook 2016

Try  disabling your  wi-fy/internet connection  and then delete.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Monday, January 02, 2017 6:23 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem With Permanently Removing E-mails From
Drafts Folder In Outlook 2016

George:

I did this, and the messages re-appeared in my Outlook 2016 drafts folder!

This, even after I opened them from my in-box, and deleted them.

Tom Behler


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of TheHangMan
Sent: Monday, January 02, 2017 8:46 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem With Permanently Removing E-mails From
Drafts Folder In Outlook 2016

Hello,
I whip this trick from my magic bag,
Open the mail, shift tab back to the too field, back space the address and
add your own, tab back to the message body and send it to your

[JAWS-Users] keystroke to schedule recurring meeting in outlook 2010

2017-01-03 Thread Dujari, Prateek

Hello gang.
Using Win8.1 and latest JFW18 version. Ctrl shift Q brings up the calendar form 
in Outlook to schedule a single occurrence meeting with one or more people. How 
do I schedule a recurring meeting with someone? Is there a keystroke combo to 
open that form?

prateek

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http://www.jaws-users.com/help/

Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem With Permanently Removing E-mails From Drafts Folder In Outlook 2016

2017-01-03 Thread Tom Behler

Cristobal:

Can you tell me how to access the gmail.com HTML page, and what I need to do
from there to change my e-mail view?

Thank you!

Tom Behler


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Cristóbal
Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2017 6:59 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem With Permanently Removing E-mails From
Drafts Folder In Outlook 2016

If you find the standard  view for Gmail  too difficult  to navigate, you
can  always switch to the basic  HTML page and  access the drafts folder
from there.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2017 3:51 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem With Permanently Removing E-mails From
Drafts Folder In Outlook 2016

Mr.  Ed:

I tried the Shift delete key method several times for each of the three
e-mails that are now permanently stuck in my Outlook 2016 drafts folder, and
the messages keep re-appearing.

In other words, they just don't go away!

I have also tried going to the gmail web site, and deleting the messages
from my personal g-mail account.  But, I find the web site itself difficult
to navigate, and I have difficulty consistently getting to where I need to
go to delete those messages.

I guess my only option at this point would be to disconnect from the
internet, and see what happens from there.  That just doesn't seem like it
should be necessary, though!



Tom Behler


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mr. Ed
Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2017 1:24 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem With Permanently Removing E-mails From
Drafts Folder In Outlook 2016

Hi Tom,
Have you tried doing a shift + delete key. Then you should get a message box
that comes up asking you if you want to permanently delete the message.
Click yes and it should be gone.
Mr. Ed  

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Cristóbal
Sent: Monday, January 02, 2017 10:13 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem With Permanently Removing E-mails From
Drafts Folder In Outlook 2016

This  works when I've got a message  stuck  in the  outgoing folder.
If you're on wifi, just disable  the wireless on your machine and if you're
hard  wired, depending  on what system you're running, go into  adaptor
settings  or network (maybe someone  else can give you  specific
instructions) and  disable the connection. Then go  back and try  to  delete
the messages and  hopefully after they're gone, go  back  and  enable  your
internet.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Monday, January 02, 2017 6:49 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem With Permanently Removing E-mails From
Drafts Folder In Outlook 2016

How exactly can I do this without interrupting internet service for the rest
of the household?

Am not sure why Outlook refuses to permanently delete these messages.

The problem only occurs with the drafts folder.

Tom Behler


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Cristóbal
Sent: Monday, January 02, 2017 9:44 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem With Permanently Removing E-mails From
Drafts Folder In Outlook 2016

Try  disabling your  wi-fy/internet connection  and then delete.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Monday, January 02, 2017 6:23 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem With Permanently Removing E-mails From
Drafts Folder In Outlook 2016

George:

I did this, and the messages re-appeared in my Outlook 2016 drafts folder!

This, even after I opened them from my in-box, and deleted them.

Tom Behler


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of TheHangMan
Sent: Monday, January 02, 2017 8:46 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem With Permanently Removing E-mails From
Drafts Folder In Outlook 2016

Hello,
I whip this trick from my magic bag,
Open the mail, shift tab back to the too field, back space the address and
add your own, tab back to the message body and send it to your self.

Jorge
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Monday, January 02, 2017 7:58 PM
To: 'Jaws users list' 
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Problem With Permanently Removing E-mails From

Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows Mail Ap Question

2017-01-03 Thread Fred Adams

Kimson, is it hard to install and setup?  How would you compare it to
outlook?  I am using outlook 2010 at present.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Kimsan
Sent: Tuesday, January 3, 2017 4:40 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows Mail Ap Question

It works wonderfully with jaws now.
Type in the search of the windows start, mail and the first result should be
the mail app.
Don't compare it to outlook, windows live, nor any other client, or you will
drive yourself bonkers.
I'm much quicker on outlook vs the mail appp but just used it for bordum and
it was just sitting there being neglected.

Respectfully,
Kimsan Song
kimsans...@icloud.com

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of jyandt.mar...@comcast.net
Sent: Tuesday, January 3, 2017 1:21 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Windows Mail Ap Question

Hi, gang.

Over the past several days, I have noticed a few post/inquiries regarding
the Windows Mail ap. Can anyone tell me how well it works with JAWS, and
where to find it? I have Windows 10, and JAWS 17. Thanks and Happy New Year.
Jerry
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem With Permanently Removing E-mails From Drafts Folder In Outlook 2016

2017-01-03 Thread Cristóbal

If you find the standard  view for Gmail  too difficult  to navigate, you
can  always switch to the basic  HTML page and  access the drafts folder
from there.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2017 3:51 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem With Permanently Removing E-mails From
Drafts Folder In Outlook 2016

Mr.  Ed:

I tried the Shift delete key method several times for each of the three
e-mails that are now permanently stuck in my Outlook 2016 drafts folder, and
the messages keep re-appearing.

In other words, they just don't go away!

I have also tried going to the gmail web site, and deleting the messages
from my personal g-mail account.  But, I find the web site itself difficult
to navigate, and I have difficulty consistently getting to where I need to
go to delete those messages.

I guess my only option at this point would be to disconnect from the
internet, and see what happens from there.  That just doesn't seem like it
should be necessary, though!

Tom Behler

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mr. Ed
Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2017 1:24 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem With Permanently Removing E-mails From
Drafts Folder In Outlook 2016

Hi Tom,
Have you tried doing a shift + delete key. Then you should get a message box
that comes up asking you if you want to permanently delete the message.
Click yes and it should be gone.
Mr. Ed  

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Cristóbal
Sent: Monday, January 02, 2017 10:13 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem With Permanently Removing E-mails From
Drafts Folder In Outlook 2016

This  works when I've got a message  stuck  in the  outgoing folder.
If you're on wifi, just disable  the wireless on your machine and if you're
hard  wired, depending  on what system you're running, go into  adaptor
settings  or network (maybe someone  else can give you  specific
instructions) and  disable the connection. Then go  back and try  to  delete
the messages and  hopefully after they're gone, go  back  and  enable  your
internet.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Monday, January 02, 2017 6:49 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem With Permanently Removing E-mails From
Drafts Folder In Outlook 2016

How exactly can I do this without interrupting internet service for the rest
of the household?

Am not sure why Outlook refuses to permanently delete these messages.

The problem only occurs with the drafts folder.

Tom Behler

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Cristóbal
Sent: Monday, January 02, 2017 9:44 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem With Permanently Removing E-mails From
Drafts Folder In Outlook 2016

Try  disabling your  wi-fy/internet connection  and then delete.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Monday, January 02, 2017 6:23 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem With Permanently Removing E-mails From
Drafts Folder In Outlook 2016

George:

I did this, and the messages re-appeared in my Outlook 2016 drafts folder!

This, even after I opened them from my in-box, and deleted them.

Tom Behler

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of TheHangMan
Sent: Monday, January 02, 2017 8:46 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem With Permanently Removing E-mails From
Drafts Folder In Outlook 2016

Hello,
I whip this trick from my magic bag,
Open the mail, shift tab back to the too field, back space the address and
add your own, tab back to the message body and send it to your self.

Jorge
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Monday, January 02, 2017 7:58 PM
To: 'Jaws users list' 
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Problem With Permanently Removing E-mails From Drafts
Folder In Outlook 2016

Hello.

I have just experienced the recurrence of a nagging problem in Outlook 2016.

I seem to be unable to remove items from my drafts folder.

I can move them to my trash folder, and supposedly permanently delete them
from that folder, but when I go back to my drafts folder, the original draft
e-mails re-appear.

Sometimes, I can correct this situation by going into the drafts folder in
my personal g-mail

Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem With Permanently Removing E-mails From Drafts Folder In Outlook 2016

2017-01-03 Thread Jason White

I suggest searching the Web to find out whether there are any known and
relevant issues with Gmail and Microsoft Outlook. If you're using a Gmail
account with MS-Outlook, it's probably using IMAP, and that's a recipe for
potential compatibility issues - including the possibility of recently
introduced bugs on either side.

Tom Behler  wrote:
> Mr.  Ed:
> 
> I tried the Shift delete key method several times for each of the three
> e-mails that are now permanently stuck in my Outlook 2016 drafts folder, and
> the messages keep re-appearing.
> 
> In other words, they just don't go away!
> 
> I have also tried going to the gmail web site, and deleting the messages
> from my personal g-mail account.  But, I find the web site itself difficult
> to navigate, and I have difficulty consistently getting to where I need to
> go to delete those messages.
> 
> I guess my only option at this point would be to disconnect from the
> internet, and see what happens from there.  That just doesn't seem like it
> should be necessary, though!
> 
> 
> 
> Tom Behler
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
> Behalf Of Mr. Ed
> Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2017 1:24 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem With Permanently Removing E-mails From
> Drafts Folder In Outlook 2016
> 
> Hi Tom,
> Have you tried doing a shift + delete key. Then you should get a message box
> that comes up asking you if you want to permanently delete the message.
> Click yes and it should be gone.
> Mr. Ed  
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
> Behalf Of Cristóbal
> Sent: Monday, January 02, 2017 10:13 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem With Permanently Removing E-mails From
> Drafts Folder In Outlook 2016
> 
> This  works when I've got a message  stuck  in the  outgoing folder.
> If you're on wifi, just disable  the wireless on your machine and if you're
> hard  wired, depending  on what system you're running, go into  adaptor
> settings  or network (maybe someone  else can give you  specific
> instructions) and  disable the connection. Then go  back and try  to  delete
> the messages and  hopefully after they're gone, go  back  and  enable  your
> internet.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
> Behalf Of Tom Behler
> Sent: Monday, January 02, 2017 6:49 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem With Permanently Removing E-mails From
> Drafts Folder In Outlook 2016
> 
> How exactly can I do this without interrupting internet service for the rest
> of the household?
> 
> Am not sure why Outlook refuses to permanently delete these messages.
> 
> The problem only occurs with the drafts folder.
> 
> Tom Behler
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
> Behalf Of Cristóbal
> Sent: Monday, January 02, 2017 9:44 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem With Permanently Removing E-mails From
> Drafts Folder In Outlook 2016
> 
> Try  disabling your  wi-fy/internet connection  and then delete.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
> Behalf Of Tom Behler
> Sent: Monday, January 02, 2017 6:23 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem With Permanently Removing E-mails From
> Drafts Folder In Outlook 2016
> 
> George:
> 
> I did this, and the messages re-appeared in my Outlook 2016 drafts folder!
> 
> This, even after I opened them from my in-box, and deleted them.
> 
> Tom Behler
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
> Behalf Of TheHangMan
> Sent: Monday, January 02, 2017 8:46 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem With Permanently Removing E-mails From
> Drafts Folder In Outlook 2016
> 
> Hello,
> I whip this trick from my magic bag,
> Open the mail, shift tab back to the too field, back space the address and
> add your own, tab back to the message body and send it to your self.
> 
>   Jorge
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
> Behalf Of Tom Behler
> Sent: Monday, January 02, 2017 7:58 PM
> To: 'Jaws users list' 
> Subject: [JAWS-Users] Problem With Permanently Removing E-mails From Drafts
> Folder In Outlook 2016
> 
> Hello.
> 
> 
> 
> I have just experienced the recurrence of a nagging problem in Outlook 2016.
> 
> 
> 
> I seem to be unable to remove items from my drafts folder.
> 
> 
> 
> I can move them to my trash folder, and supposedly permanently delete them
> from that folder, but when I

Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem With Permanently Removing E-mails From Drafts Folder In Outlook 2016

2017-01-03 Thread Tom Behler

Mr.  Ed:

I tried the Shift delete key method several times for each of the three
e-mails that are now permanently stuck in my Outlook 2016 drafts folder, and
the messages keep re-appearing.

In other words, they just don't go away!

I have also tried going to the gmail web site, and deleting the messages
from my personal g-mail account.  But, I find the web site itself difficult
to navigate, and I have difficulty consistently getting to where I need to
go to delete those messages.

I guess my only option at this point would be to disconnect from the
internet, and see what happens from there.  That just doesn't seem like it
should be necessary, though!



Tom Behler


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mr. Ed
Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2017 1:24 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem With Permanently Removing E-mails From
Drafts Folder In Outlook 2016

Hi Tom,
Have you tried doing a shift + delete key. Then you should get a message box
that comes up asking you if you want to permanently delete the message.
Click yes and it should be gone.
Mr. Ed  

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Cristóbal
Sent: Monday, January 02, 2017 10:13 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem With Permanently Removing E-mails From
Drafts Folder In Outlook 2016

This  works when I've got a message  stuck  in the  outgoing folder.
If you're on wifi, just disable  the wireless on your machine and if you're
hard  wired, depending  on what system you're running, go into  adaptor
settings  or network (maybe someone  else can give you  specific
instructions) and  disable the connection. Then go  back and try  to  delete
the messages and  hopefully after they're gone, go  back  and  enable  your
internet.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Monday, January 02, 2017 6:49 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem With Permanently Removing E-mails From
Drafts Folder In Outlook 2016

How exactly can I do this without interrupting internet service for the rest
of the household?

Am not sure why Outlook refuses to permanently delete these messages.

The problem only occurs with the drafts folder.

Tom Behler


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Cristóbal
Sent: Monday, January 02, 2017 9:44 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem With Permanently Removing E-mails From
Drafts Folder In Outlook 2016

Try  disabling your  wi-fy/internet connection  and then delete.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Monday, January 02, 2017 6:23 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem With Permanently Removing E-mails From
Drafts Folder In Outlook 2016

George:

I did this, and the messages re-appeared in my Outlook 2016 drafts folder!

This, even after I opened them from my in-box, and deleted them.

Tom Behler


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of TheHangMan
Sent: Monday, January 02, 2017 8:46 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem With Permanently Removing E-mails From
Drafts Folder In Outlook 2016

Hello,
I whip this trick from my magic bag,
Open the mail, shift tab back to the too field, back space the address and
add your own, tab back to the message body and send it to your self.

Jorge
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Monday, January 02, 2017 7:58 PM
To: 'Jaws users list' 
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Problem With Permanently Removing E-mails From Drafts
Folder In Outlook 2016

Hello.



I have just experienced the recurrence of a nagging problem in Outlook 2016.



I seem to be unable to remove items from my drafts folder.



I can move them to my trash folder, and supposedly permanently delete them
from that folder, but when I go back to my drafts folder, the original draft
e-mails re-appear.



Sometimes, I can correct this situation by going into the drafts folder in
my personal g-mail account and eliminating the messages that way, but this
does not always work either.



Has anyone else experienced this issue?  And, if so, how did you ultimately
get rid of those stubborn draft messages?



Dr.  Tom Behler from Michigan





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Re: [JAWS-Users] Accessibility of Lenovo Thinkpad X250/X260 with jaws

2017-01-03 Thread Jason White

If you run System Information, it should show you the vendor and model of the
laptop.

andy   wrote:
> I  believe I am running one of these think pads.. I am using jaws and have
> been for about three years...
> How do I tell which I am running?
> 
> I recognize the insert and end button being the same.. I use a Logitech
> wireless keyboard when I am home because the lap top does not have an
> applications key and I have found that this key is very important to me... 
> Have a great day
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
> Behalf Of Reed
> Sent: Tuesday, January 3, 2017 1:00 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Accessibility of Lenovo Thinkpad X250/X260 with
> jaws
> 
> Hello,
> 
> I have been using the X250 since June last year.  I have had no issues with
> the machine other than the way the Insert key is set up.  The End key and
> Insert keys are one key.  Insert is FN-Key + End.  So, with JAWS, you have
> to use the Laptop keyboard layout and perhaps redefine some key assignments.
> 
> Reed
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
> Behalf Of Mohib Anwar Rafay
> Sent: January 2, 2017 11:23 PM
> To: jaws-users-list 
> Subject: [JAWS-Users] Accessibility of Lenovo Thinkpad X250/X260 with jaws
> 
> I am just about to purchase thinkpad X260 or X250, but I am concerned of its
> accessibility with jaws. So anyone using X searies thinkpad, kindly apprise
> me about their accessibility and I will be using it with jaws only.
> 
> --
> Mohib Anwar Rafay
> 
> Phone: +919 555 555 765
> 
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Accessibility of Lenovo Thinkpad X250/X260 with jaws

2017-01-03 Thread andy

I  believe I am running one of these think pads.. I am using jaws and have
been for about three years...
How do I tell which I am running?

I recognize the insert and end button being the same.. I use a Logitech
wireless keyboard when I am home because the lap top does not have an
applications key and I have found that this key is very important to me... 
Have a great day


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Reed
Sent: Tuesday, January 3, 2017 1:00 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Accessibility of Lenovo Thinkpad X250/X260 with
jaws

Hello,

I have been using the X250 since June last year.  I have had no issues with
the machine other than the way the Insert key is set up.  The End key and
Insert keys are one key.  Insert is FN-Key + End.  So, with JAWS, you have
to use the Laptop keyboard layout and perhaps redefine some key assignments.

Reed
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mohib Anwar Rafay
Sent: January 2, 2017 11:23 PM
To: jaws-users-list 
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Accessibility of Lenovo Thinkpad X250/X260 with jaws

I am just about to purchase thinkpad X260 or X250, but I am concerned of its
accessibility with jaws. So anyone using X searies thinkpad, kindly apprise
me about their accessibility and I will be using it with jaws only.

--
Mohib Anwar Rafay

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Youtube to MP3

2017-01-03 Thread Humberto Rodriguez

You could try SONGR which is free or 4K which costs a little, but does
playlists too.
Humberto

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Gene Warner
Sent: Tuesday, January 3, 2017 12:37 PM
To: JAWS Users 
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Youtube to MP3

Hi everyone!

Does anyone know of an accessible Youtube to MP3 convertor? The one I 
just looked at had an installer that was loaded down with third party 
programs with opt out options that weren't accessible, so I canceled the 
install. That one was from DVD Video Soft.

Another one that I looked at from Free Make wasn't accessible.

I used to use Youtube to MP3 convertor.org but for the past several 
months, all it does is throw up a message about maintenance and to try 
again in an hour or so.

It doesn't have to be free, though that would be nice.

Thanks!

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Re: [JAWS-Users] YouTube to MP3

2017-01-03 Thread Gene Warner


Hi!

My needs are very simple, I don't need to download whole playlists or 
multiple songsone at a time suits me just fine.


I discovered that the first message about YouTubeBLG had actually 
misspelled it, it should have been YouTubeDLG for YouTube DL GUI. 
Somebody sent me a link to github where it could be downloaded but there 
appeared to be no link to a Windows version, so I gave up on that.


While I was searching, I ran across several recommendations for a 
program called Pontes Media Downloader. It sounded ideal so I grabbed it.


Pontes Organization is apparently a Romanian JAWS user who has written 
some games and this media downloader, and some scripts for JAWS.


If you are interested, here is a link to his web site where you can 
download his programs and scripts, which is also a small online community.


http://www.pontes.ro

Cheers!


On 1/3/2017 2:59 PM, andy t wrote:

hello here is one I use all the time and it works very well with jaws
www.convert2mp3.net/en
you just go there and press the letter e two times and press inter then
type in the name of a song or artist then press the tab key and inter
and you
will get a list of songs the only draw back is you can only download one
song at a time then you must go through the whole process again I wish I
could find one where I could download several songs at once.

-Original Message- From: Robin Frost
Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2017 2:09 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] YouTube to MP3

Hi,
It can be found here.
https://github.com/MrS0m30n3/youtube-dl-gui
and sites it works with
https://rg3.github.io/youtube-dl/supportedsites.html
Robin


-Original Message- From: Merv Keck
Sent: Tuesday, January 3, 2017 1:17 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] YouTube to MP3

YouTube BLG is accessible with Jaws. I don't have a link for it but it
works
very well. It does not have all the options that the one you mentioned has
but it does a very good job. It even does playlists without a premium
subscription.
Hope that helps.
Merv


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Gene Warner
Sent: Tuesday, January 3, 2017 12:37 PM
To: JAWS Users 
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Youtube to MP3

Hi everyone!

Does anyone know of an accessible Youtube to MP3 convertor? The one I just
looked at had an installer that was loaded down with third party programs
with opt out options that weren't accessible, so I canceled the install.
That one was from DVD Video Soft.

Another one that I looked at from Free Make wasn't accessible.

I used to use Youtube to MP3 convertor.org but for the past several months,
all it does is throw up a message about maintenance and to try again in an
hour or so.

It doesn't have to be free, though that would be nice.

Thanks!


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows Mail Ap Question

2017-01-03 Thread jyandt.martin

Kimsan: Thanks for the reply. I might try it out.

-Original Message- 
From: Kimsan

Sent: Tuesday, January 3, 2017 3:40 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows Mail Ap Question

It works wonderfully with jaws now.
Type in the search of the windows start, mail and the first result should be
the mail app.
Don't compare it to outlook, windows live, nor any other client, or you will
drive yourself bonkers.
I'm much quicker on outlook vs the mail appp but just used it for bordum and
it was just sitting there being neglected.

Respectfully,
Kimsan Song
kimsans...@icloud.com

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Behalf Of jyandt.mar...@comcast.net
Sent: Tuesday, January 3, 2017 1:21 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Windows Mail Ap Question

Hi, gang.

Over the past several days, I have noticed a few post/inquiries regarding
the Windows Mail ap. Can anyone tell me how well it works with JAWS, and
where to find it? I have Windows 10, and JAWS 17. Thanks and Happy New Year.
Jerry
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows Mail Ap Question

2017-01-03 Thread Kimsan

It works wonderfully with jaws now.
Type in the search of the windows start, mail and the first result should be
the mail app.
Don't compare it to outlook, windows live, nor any other client, or you will
drive yourself bonkers.
I'm much quicker on outlook vs the mail appp but just used it for bordum and
it was just sitting there being neglected.

Respectfully,
Kimsan Song
kimsans...@icloud.com

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Behalf Of jyandt.mar...@comcast.net
Sent: Tuesday, January 3, 2017 1:21 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Windows Mail Ap Question

Hi, gang.

Over the past several days, I have noticed a few post/inquiries regarding
the Windows Mail ap. Can anyone tell me how well it works with JAWS, and
where to find it? I have Windows 10, and JAWS 17. Thanks and Happy New Year.
Jerry
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[JAWS-Users] Windows Mail Ap Question

2017-01-03 Thread jyandt.martin

Hi, gang.

Over the past several days, I have noticed a few post/inquiries regarding the 
Windows Mail ap. Can anyone tell me how well it works with JAWS, and where to 
find it? I have Windows 10, and JAWS 17. Thanks and Happy New Year.
Jerry
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Accessing iTunes with JAWS18

2017-01-03 Thread Rick Justice

Hi Annette,
Give these steps a try, they work for me.
I wrote them yesterday, and as far as creating playlists, you should be able 
to do that from your phone as well.

These instructions were written for ITunes version 12.5.4.42, using Jaws 
version 16.

Once ITunes has been configured to automatically sync with your phone when 
connected , follow these steps to move music or ring tones to your phone:
Music:
NOTE: Make sure that the files you select are not .wav format,
While the IPhone will play these files, they are far too large to transfer 
to the phone since they will rapidly use up available space on the phone.
.mp3 would be a better choice,.

1. Select individual songs or an album folder, and copy it to the clipboard.
2. Press enter on your user folder name shortcut on the Desktop.
3. Once in your user folder, locate your Music folder and press enter.
4. From within your Music folder, press the letter I to move to the ITunes 
folder, then press enter to open it.
5. Press the letter I again to locate the ITunes Media folder, then press 
enter to open it.
6. The first folder in this list is:
Automatically Add to ITunes,
 so press the spacebar to select the folder, then press enter to open it.
7. Paste your selections from the clipboard here.
Note: If pasting individual files, I would  make sure that none of the file 
names are the same or have like track numbers in the file name.
8. Once you have pasted your files here you can close the folder with Alt 
F4.
9. Now, from the Desktop press enter on the ITunes shortcut, to open the 
ITunes program.
10. Once ITunes has loaded, plug your phone into your computer, and syncing 
should begin.
When syncing has finished, you should hear a tone.
Now check your Music app on your phone to make sure the songs are there.

The process for moving ring tones to your phone are the same as above,
making sure that the files you are using for ring tones are of the correct 
format,(.m4r)  and no longer than 30 seconds in length.
No matter what format your original file is, you will need to convert it to 
M4A first.
To convert files to the proper format, do the following:
1. Open Pazera Free Audio Extractor Portable, and press enter on 
theAudioExtractor.exe.
2. Next, once the program has opened, press the Alt key, and right arrow to 
the File List menu, then arrow to "Add files to list", and press enter.
3. This will place you in a standard "Open", dialogue where you can browse 
for your files.
4. Once you have found your file, or files, then tab to the "OPEN" button 
and spacebar it.
5.  Now, you will be in a dialogue for choosing your output format, and your 
file or files should be selected, so tab once to choose the format.
6. Arrow to m4a, then  press the Alt key to open the menus, and select 
"convert checked files", from the file menu, and press enter.
The conversion process will start, and Jaws should announce the progress.
7.  When conversion has completed, you can close the program with Alt F4.
8. Go to the folder where your original file is located and you should find 
your converted file or files.
9. Once you have located your files, you will need to change the file 
extension, by doing the following:
A. With the file name highlighted, press the F2 key to rename the file.
B. Now, move to the end of the file name, and delete the "A", from the end 
of the file extension, and replace it with the letter "R" and press enter to 
close the dialogue.
Do this for each file you want to use.
10. Finally, use the steps above for moving music to your phone to move your 
ring tones.


HTH,
Rick Justice

Tomorrow's another day, another way!
and if tomorrow never comes, problem solved!


- Original Message - 
From: "Annette Carr" 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2017 12:47 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Accessing iTunes with JAWS18


Hi All iTunes Users,



iTunes is driving me crazy.  I am trying to add new content to my iTunes
library so that I can make a Play List and then put that Play List on my
iPhone.  I am using the latest version of iTunes and JAWS18 on a Windows7
machine.  I find that sometimes using Tab or Control+Tab or F6 all do the
same thing for navigating, and other times they do not.  When I land on most
buttons, JAWS announces to use the Space Bar to select, but I find that if
it is going to let me select it, I will have to use the Enter key.



I thought that when you selected Add to Library from the File Menu iTunes
would go out and find any new content, i.e. MP3's on your hard drive and add
them to the iTunes folder, and to the iTunes library.  This is not
happening.  I've even tried pasting the new MP3 files in the iTunes folder
and then going through what I think are the steps for adding them to the
iTunes library, and they still do not show up.  I am selecting Add to
Library, and then in the dialog box that pops up I am thinking that I am
selecting one of the items in the list, and I do hear the

Re: [JAWS-Users] YouTube to MP3

2017-01-03 Thread andy t


hello here is one I use all the time and it works very well with jaws
www.convert2mp3.net/en
you just go there and press the letter e two times and press inter then type 
in the name of a song or artist then press the tab key and inter and you
will get a list of songs the only draw back is you can only download one 
song at a time then you must go through the whole process again I wish I 
could find one where I could download several songs at once.


-Original Message- 
From: Robin Frost

Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2017 2:09 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] YouTube to MP3

Hi,
It can be found here.
https://github.com/MrS0m30n3/youtube-dl-gui
and sites it works with
https://rg3.github.io/youtube-dl/supportedsites.html
Robin


-Original Message- 
From: Merv Keck

Sent: Tuesday, January 3, 2017 1:17 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] YouTube to MP3

YouTube BLG is accessible with Jaws. I don't have a link for it but it works
very well. It does not have all the options that the one you mentioned has
but it does a very good job. It even does playlists without a premium
subscription.
Hope that helps.
Merv


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Gene Warner
Sent: Tuesday, January 3, 2017 12:37 PM
To: JAWS Users 
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Youtube to MP3

Hi everyone!

Does anyone know of an accessible Youtube to MP3 convertor? The one I just
looked at had an installer that was loaded down with third party programs
with opt out options that weren't accessible, so I canceled the install.
That one was from DVD Video Soft.

Another one that I looked at from Free Make wasn't accessible.

I used to use Youtube to MP3 convertor.org but for the past several months,
all it does is throw up a message about maintenance and to try again in an
hour or so.

It doesn't have to be free, though that would be nice.

Thanks!


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[JAWS-Users] icloud settings

2017-01-03 Thread Kimsan

Hi,

On the windows 10 mail app, I was looking to input my ICloud email address;
however, I received a notification that my icloud settings are out of date.
What does that mean?

 

Respectfully,

Kimsan Song

kimsans...@icloud.com

 

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Accessing iTunes with JAWS18

2017-01-03 Thread Russ Breitenstein


Annette
I don't think iTunes will automatically add tracks to your library. I have 
always gone to the File menu and select Add file to library, and then tab to 
Browse, then navigate  to the track to add. After you select the track by 
pressing Space, tab to Open and this should add the track to your library.


Like you, I think iTunes is insane.

Hope this helps,
Russ

-Original Message- 
From: Annette Carr

Sent: Tuesday, January 3, 2017 12:47 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Accessing iTunes with JAWS18

Hi All iTunes Users,



iTunes is driving me crazy.  I am trying to add new content to my iTunes
library so that I can make a Play List and then put that Play List on my
iPhone.  I am using the latest version of iTunes and JAWS18 on a Windows7
machine.  I find that sometimes using Tab or Control+Tab or F6 all do the
same thing for navigating, and other times they do not.  When I land on most
buttons, JAWS announces to use the Space Bar to select, but I find that if
it is going to let me select it, I will have to use the Enter key.



I thought that when you selected Add to Library from the File Menu iTunes
would go out and find any new content, i.e. MP3's on your hard drive and add
them to the iTunes folder, and to the iTunes library.  This is not
happening.  I've even tried pasting the new MP3 files in the iTunes folder
and then going through what I think are the steps for adding them to the
iTunes library, and they still do not show up.  I am selecting Add to
Library, and then in the dialog box that pops up I am thinking that I am
selecting one of the items in the list, and I do hear the iTunes sound that
usually indicates it is finished.



Can anyone help me with this?



Annette



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Re: [JAWS-Users] YouTube to MP3

2017-01-03 Thread Robin Frost


Hi,
It can be found here.
https://github.com/MrS0m30n3/youtube-dl-gui
and sites it works with
https://rg3.github.io/youtube-dl/supportedsites.html
Robin


-Original Message- 
From: Merv Keck

Sent: Tuesday, January 3, 2017 1:17 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] YouTube to MP3

YouTube BLG is accessible with Jaws. I don't have a link for it but it works
very well. It does not have all the options that the one you mentioned has
but it does a very good job. It even does playlists without a premium
subscription.
Hope that helps.
Merv


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Gene Warner
Sent: Tuesday, January 3, 2017 12:37 PM
To: JAWS Users 
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Youtube to MP3

Hi everyone!

Does anyone know of an accessible Youtube to MP3 convertor? The one I just
looked at had an installer that was loaded down with third party programs
with opt out options that weren't accessible, so I canceled the install.
That one was from DVD Video Soft.

Another one that I looked at from Free Make wasn't accessible.

I used to use Youtube to MP3 convertor.org but for the past several months,
all it does is throw up a message about maintenance and to try again in an
hour or so.

It doesn't have to be free, though that would be nice.

Thanks!


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Re: [JAWS-Users] YouTube to MP3

2017-01-03 Thread Adrian Spratt

All you need do is add "jaws" to your google search, and you find your way 
there:
https://www.google.com/search?site==hp=%22YouTube+BLG%22%2C+jaws=%22YouTube+BLG%22%2C+jaws_l=hp.3..0i8i13i30k1.5696.13745.0.13928.8.8.0.0.0.0.109.667.7j1.8.00...1c.1.64.hp..0.8.660...0i22i30k1j0i30k1j0i8i30k1j0i13k1j33i160k1.F5R1hfLv8_s

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Gene Warner
Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2017 1:50 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] YouTube to MP3

That sounds ideal, unfortunately without a link it's of little value. 
Especially since trying to find it with google gets you everything but.

Thanks anyway.


On 1/3/2017 1:17 PM, Merv Keck wrote:
> YouTube BLG is accessible with Jaws. I don't have a link for it but it 
> works very well. It does not have all the options that the one you 
> mentioned has but it does a very good job. It even does playlists 
> without a premium subscription.
> Hope that helps.
> Merv
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] 
> On Behalf Of Gene Warner
> Sent: Tuesday, January 3, 2017 12:37 PM
> To: JAWS Users 
> Subject: [JAWS-Users] Youtube to MP3
>
> Hi everyone!
>
> Does anyone know of an accessible Youtube to MP3 convertor? The one I 
> just looked at had an installer that was loaded down with third party 
> programs with opt out options that weren't accessible, so I canceled the 
> install.
> That one was from DVD Video Soft.
>
> Another one that I looked at from Free Make wasn't accessible.
>
> I used to use Youtube to MP3 convertor.org but for the past several 
> months, all it does is throw up a message about maintenance and to try 
> again in an hour or so.
>
> It doesn't have to be free, though that would be nice.
>
> Thanks!
>
>
> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
>
>
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Re: [JAWS-Users] YouTube to MP3

2017-01-03 Thread Gene Warner

That sounds ideal, unfortunately without a link it's of little value. 
Especially since trying to find it with google gets you everything but.


Thanks anyway.


On 1/3/2017 1:17 PM, Merv Keck wrote:

YouTube BLG is accessible with Jaws. I don't have a link for it but it works
very well. It does not have all the options that the one you mentioned has
but it does a very good job. It even does playlists without a premium
subscription.
Hope that helps.
Merv


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Gene Warner
Sent: Tuesday, January 3, 2017 12:37 PM
To: JAWS Users 
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Youtube to MP3

Hi everyone!

Does anyone know of an accessible Youtube to MP3 convertor? The one I just
looked at had an installer that was loaded down with third party programs
with opt out options that weren't accessible, so I canceled the install.
That one was from DVD Video Soft.

Another one that I looked at from Free Make wasn't accessible.

I used to use Youtube to MP3 convertor.org but for the past several months,
all it does is throw up a message about maintenance and to try again in an
hour or so.

It doesn't have to be free, though that would be nice.

Thanks!


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem With Permanently Removing E-mails From Drafts Folder In Outlook 2016

2017-01-03 Thread Mr. Ed

Hi Tom,
Have you tried doing a shift + delete key. Then you should get a message box
that comes up asking you if you want to permanently delete the message.
Click yes and it should be gone.
Mr. Ed  

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Cristóbal
Sent: Monday, January 02, 2017 10:13 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem With Permanently Removing E-mails From
Drafts Folder In Outlook 2016

This  works when I've got a message  stuck  in the  outgoing folder.
If you're on wifi, just disable  the wireless on your machine and if you're
hard  wired, depending  on what system you're running, go into  adaptor
settings  or network (maybe someone  else can give you  specific
instructions) and  disable the connection. Then go  back and try  to  delete
the messages and  hopefully after they're gone, go  back  and  enable  your
internet.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Monday, January 02, 2017 6:49 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem With Permanently Removing E-mails From
Drafts Folder In Outlook 2016

How exactly can I do this without interrupting internet service for the rest
of the household?

Am not sure why Outlook refuses to permanently delete these messages.

The problem only occurs with the drafts folder.

Tom Behler


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Cristóbal
Sent: Monday, January 02, 2017 9:44 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem With Permanently Removing E-mails From
Drafts Folder In Outlook 2016

Try  disabling your  wi-fy/internet connection  and then delete.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Monday, January 02, 2017 6:23 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem With Permanently Removing E-mails From
Drafts Folder In Outlook 2016

George:

I did this, and the messages re-appeared in my Outlook 2016 drafts folder!

This, even after I opened them from my in-box, and deleted them.

Tom Behler


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of TheHangMan
Sent: Monday, January 02, 2017 8:46 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem With Permanently Removing E-mails From
Drafts Folder In Outlook 2016

Hello,
I whip this trick from my magic bag,
Open the mail, shift tab back to the too field, back space the address and
add your own, tab back to the message body and send it to your self.

Jorge
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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Monday, January 02, 2017 7:58 PM
To: 'Jaws users list' 
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Problem With Permanently Removing E-mails From Drafts
Folder In Outlook 2016

Hello.



I have just experienced the recurrence of a nagging problem in Outlook 2016.



I seem to be unable to remove items from my drafts folder.



I can move them to my trash folder, and supposedly permanently delete them
from that folder, but when I go back to my drafts folder, the original draft
e-mails re-appear.



Sometimes, I can correct this situation by going into the drafts folder in
my personal g-mail account and eliminating the messages that way, but this
does not always work either.



Has anyone else experienced this issue?  And, if so, how did you ultimately
get rid of those stubborn draft messages?



Dr.  Tom Behler from Michigan





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Re: [JAWS-Users] YouTube to MP3

2017-01-03 Thread Merv Keck

YouTube BLG is accessible with Jaws. I don't have a link for it but it works
very well. It does not have all the options that the one you mentioned has
but it does a very good job. It even does playlists without a premium
subscription.
Hope that helps.
Merv


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Behalf Of Gene Warner
Sent: Tuesday, January 3, 2017 12:37 PM
To: JAWS Users 
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Youtube to MP3

Hi everyone!

Does anyone know of an accessible Youtube to MP3 convertor? The one I just
looked at had an installer that was loaded down with third party programs
with opt out options that weren't accessible, so I canceled the install.
That one was from DVD Video Soft.

Another one that I looked at from Free Make wasn't accessible.

I used to use Youtube to MP3 convertor.org but for the past several months,
all it does is throw up a message about maintenance and to try again in an
hour or so.

It doesn't have to be free, though that would be nice.

Thanks!


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Accessibility of Lenovo Thinkpad X250/X260 with jaws

2017-01-03 Thread Reed

Hello,

I have been using the X250 since June last year.  I have had no issues with
the machine other than the way the Insert key is set up.  The End key and
Insert keys are one key.  Insert is FN-Key + End.  So, with JAWS, you have
to use the Laptop keyboard layout and perhaps redefine some key assignments.

Reed
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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mohib Anwar Rafay
Sent: January 2, 2017 11:23 PM
To: jaws-users-list 
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Accessibility of Lenovo Thinkpad X250/X260 with jaws

I am just about to purchase thinkpad X260 or X250, but I am concerned
of its accessibility with jaws. So anyone using X searies thinkpad,
kindly apprise me about their accessibility and I will be using it
with jaws only.

-- 
Mohib Anwar Rafay

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[JAWS-Users] Accessing iTunes with JAWS18

2017-01-03 Thread Annette Carr

Hi All iTunes Users,

 

iTunes is driving me crazy.  I am trying to add new content to my iTunes
library so that I can make a Play List and then put that Play List on my
iPhone.  I am using the latest version of iTunes and JAWS18 on a Windows7
machine.  I find that sometimes using Tab or Control+Tab or F6 all do the
same thing for navigating, and other times they do not.  When I land on most
buttons, JAWS announces to use the Space Bar to select, but I find that if
it is going to let me select it, I will have to use the Enter key.  

 

I thought that when you selected Add to Library from the File Menu iTunes
would go out and find any new content, i.e. MP3's on your hard drive and add
them to the iTunes folder, and to the iTunes library.  This is not
happening.  I've even tried pasting the new MP3 files in the iTunes folder
and then going through what I think are the steps for adding them to the
iTunes library, and they still do not show up.  I am selecting Add to
Library, and then in the dialog box that pops up I am thinking that I am
selecting one of the items in the list, and I do hear the iTunes sound that
usually indicates it is finished.  

 

Can anyone help me with this?  

 

Annette

 

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[JAWS-Users] Youtube to MP3

2017-01-03 Thread Gene Warner


Hi everyone!

Does anyone know of an accessible Youtube to MP3 convertor? The one I 
just looked at had an installer that was loaded down with third party 
programs with opt out options that weren't accessible, so I canceled the 
install. That one was from DVD Video Soft.


Another one that I looked at from Free Make wasn't accessible.

I used to use Youtube to MP3 convertor.org but for the past several 
months, all it does is throw up a message about maintenance and to try 
again in an hour or so.


It doesn't have to be free, though that would be nice.

Thanks!


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Reading Text Columns in MS-Word

2017-01-03 Thread Jason White

I just discovered this issue today while reading a document sent by a
colleague.

Please note that text columns are not tables. Table navigation commands
(including smart navigation) do not work with text columns.

I searched the Web and found that Alt+Down-Arrow and Alt+Up-Arrow are supposed
to move to the next/previous text column, respectively. Even if I used the
JAWS pass-through key (Insert+3) to ensure that JAWS did not interpret these
keystrokes as sentence navigation commands, they didn't work in Microsoft Word
2016 for me.

I also found mention of Alt+Page-Up and Alt+Page-Down, which didn't help
either.

Is there a better solution than using "route JAWS to PC" to move to a
neighboring column after finding the text with the JAWS cursor?

Annette Carr  wrote:
> Hello All,
> 
>  
> 
> I have to read a MS-Word 2010 document that has been formatted with text
> columns.  It is driving me crazy that as I move through the document, I am
> unable to follow the text.  I have to gather specific information throughout
> the document, so using insert Down arrow is not ideal to use right now.  Are
> there commands for navigating text columns?  I may resort to reformatting
> the document by removing the column setting.
> 
>  
> 
> Annette
> 
>  
> 
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Accessibility of Lenovo Thinkpad X250/X260 with jaws

2017-01-03 Thread John M.

I have the X220 and it works perfectly with Jaws and NVDA.

John

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From: "Mohib Anwar Rafay" 

To: "jaws-users-list" 
Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2017 2:23 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Accessibility of Lenovo Thinkpad X250/X260 with jaws

I am just about to purchase thinkpad X260 or X250, but I am concerned
of its accessibility with jaws. So anyone using X searies thinkpad,
kindly apprise me about their accessibility and I will be using it
with jaws only.

--
Mohib Anwar Rafay

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem With Permanently Removing E-mails From Drafts Folder In Outlook 2016

2017-01-03 Thread Tom Behler

David:

I'm not hard wired, so will have to revert to the suggested method of
unplugging the router, or temporarily disabling my wireless on the computer
itself.

Tom Behler


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of David Ferrin
Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2017 7:14 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem With Permanently Removing E-mails From
Drafts Folder In Outlook 2016

If he is hardwired then all he has to do is pull the cat 5 plug out of his
system. Nothing more than that little trick is all he needs.

-Original Message-
From: Cristóbal
Sent: Monday, January 2, 2017 11:12 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem WithPermanently Removing E-mails From
Drafts Folder In Outlook 2016

This  works when I've got a message  stuck  in the  outgoing folder.
If you're on wifi, just disable  the wireless on your machine and if you're
hard  wired, depending  on what system you're running, go into  adaptor
settings  or network (maybe someone  else can give you  specific
instructions) and  disable the connection. Then go  back and try  to  delete
the messages and  hopefully after they're gone, go  back  and  enable  your
internet.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Monday, January 02, 2017 6:49 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem With Permanently Removing E-mails From
Drafts Folder In Outlook 2016

How exactly can I do this without interrupting internet service for the rest
of the household?

Am not sure why Outlook refuses to permanently delete these messages.

The problem only occurs with the drafts folder.

Tom Behler


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Cristóbal
Sent: Monday, January 02, 2017 9:44 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem With Permanently Removing E-mails From
Drafts Folder In Outlook 2016

Try  disabling your  wi-fy/internet connection  and then delete.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Monday, January 02, 2017 6:23 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem With Permanently Removing E-mails From
Drafts Folder In Outlook 2016

George:

I did this, and the messages re-appeared in my Outlook 2016 drafts folder!

This, even after I opened them from my in-box, and deleted them.

Tom Behler


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of TheHangMan
Sent: Monday, January 02, 2017 8:46 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem With Permanently Removing E-mails From
Drafts Folder In Outlook 2016

Hello,
I whip this trick from my magic bag,
Open the mail, shift tab back to the too field, back space the address and
add your own, tab back to the message body and send it to your self.

Jorge
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Monday, January 02, 2017 7:58 PM
To: 'Jaws users list' 
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Problem With Permanently Removing E-mails From Drafts
Folder In Outlook 2016

Hello.



I have just experienced the recurrence of a nagging problem in Outlook 2016.



I seem to be unable to remove items from my drafts folder.



I can move them to my trash folder, and supposedly permanently delete them
from that folder, but when I go back to my drafts folder, the original draft
e-mails re-appear.



Sometimes, I can correct this situation by going into the drafts folder in
my personal g-mail account and eliminating the messages that way, but this
does not always work either.



Has anyone else experienced this issue?  And, if so, how did you ultimately
get rid of those stubborn draft messages?



Dr.  Tom Behler from Michigan





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Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem With Permanently Removing E-mails From Drafts Folder In Outlook 2016

2017-01-03 Thread Tom Behler

Ok, George. ... Thanks!

Tom Behler

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of TheHangMan
Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2017 12:55 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem With Permanently Removing E-mails From
Drafts Folder In Outlook 2016

Hi,
If, you just unplug the router is fine, then plug it back,
Jorge

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Cristsbal
Sent: Monday, January 02, 2017 11:13 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem With Permanently Removing E-mails From
Drafts Folder In Outlook 2016

This  works when I've got a message  stuck  in the  outgoing folder.
If you're on wifi, just disable  the wireless on your machine and if you're
hard  wired, depending  on what system you're running, go into  adaptor
settings  or network (maybe someone  else can give you  specific
instructions) and  disable the connection. Then go  back and try  to  delete
the messages and  hopefully after they're gone, go  back  and  enable  your
internet.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Monday, January 02, 2017 6:49 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem With Permanently Removing E-mails From
Drafts Folder In Outlook 2016

How exactly can I do this without interrupting internet service for the rest
of the household?

Am not sure why Outlook refuses to permanently delete these messages.

The problem only occurs with the drafts folder.

Tom Behler

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Cristsbal
Sent: Monday, January 02, 2017 9:44 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem With Permanently Removing E-mails From
Drafts Folder In Outlook 2016

Try  disabling your  wi-fy/internet connection  and then delete.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Monday, January 02, 2017 6:23 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem With Permanently Removing E-mails From
Drafts Folder In Outlook 2016

George:

I did this, and the messages re-appeared in my Outlook 2016 drafts folder!

This, even after I opened them from my in-box, and deleted them.

Tom Behler

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of TheHangMan
Sent: Monday, January 02, 2017 8:46 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem With Permanently Removing E-mails From
Drafts Folder In Outlook 2016

Hello,
I whip this trick from my magic bag,
Open the mail, shift tab back to the too field, back space the address and
add your own, tab back to the message body and send it to your self.

Jorge
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Monday, January 02, 2017 7:58 PM
To: 'Jaws users list' 
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Problem With Permanently Removing E-mails From Drafts
Folder In Outlook 2016

Hello.

I have just experienced the recurrence of a nagging problem in Outlook 2016.

I seem to be unable to remove items from my drafts folder.

I can move them to my trash folder, and supposedly permanently delete them
from that folder, but when I go back to my drafts folder, the original draft
e-mails re-appear.

Sometimes, I can correct this situation by going into the drafts folder in
my personal g-mail account and eliminating the messages that way, but this
does not always work either.

Has anyone else experienced this issue?  And, if so, how did you ultimately
get rid of those stubborn draft messages?

Dr.  Tom Behler from Michigan

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem With Permanently Removing E-mails From Drafts Folder In Outlook 2016

2017-01-03 Thread Tom Behler

Ok.

Will give this a try, although it really shouldn't have to be this hard or
involved.

Not sure why this problem recurs occasionally.

It is what it is, I guess.

Thanks for the tip!

Dr.  Tom Behler from Michigan


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Cristóbal
Sent: Monday, January 02, 2017 11:13 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem With Permanently Removing E-mails From
Drafts Folder In Outlook 2016

This  works when I've got a message  stuck  in the  outgoing folder.
If you're on wifi, just disable  the wireless on your machine and if you're
hard  wired, depending  on what system you're running, go into  adaptor
settings  or network (maybe someone  else can give you  specific
instructions) and  disable the connection. Then go  back and try  to  delete
the messages and  hopefully after they're gone, go  back  and  enable  your
internet.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Monday, January 02, 2017 6:49 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem With Permanently Removing E-mails From
Drafts Folder In Outlook 2016

How exactly can I do this without interrupting internet service for the rest
of the household?

Am not sure why Outlook refuses to permanently delete these messages.

The problem only occurs with the drafts folder.

Tom Behler


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Cristóbal
Sent: Monday, January 02, 2017 9:44 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem With Permanently Removing E-mails From
Drafts Folder In Outlook 2016

Try  disabling your  wi-fy/internet connection  and then delete.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Monday, January 02, 2017 6:23 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem With Permanently Removing E-mails From
Drafts Folder In Outlook 2016

George:

I did this, and the messages re-appeared in my Outlook 2016 drafts folder!

This, even after I opened them from my in-box, and deleted them.

Tom Behler


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of TheHangMan
Sent: Monday, January 02, 2017 8:46 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem With Permanently Removing E-mails From
Drafts Folder In Outlook 2016

Hello,
I whip this trick from my magic bag,
Open the mail, shift tab back to the too field, back space the address and
add your own, tab back to the message body and send it to your self.

Jorge
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Monday, January 02, 2017 7:58 PM
To: 'Jaws users list' 
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Problem With Permanently Removing E-mails From Drafts
Folder In Outlook 2016

Hello.



I have just experienced the recurrence of a nagging problem in Outlook 2016.



I seem to be unable to remove items from my drafts folder.



I can move them to my trash folder, and supposedly permanently delete them
from that folder, but when I go back to my drafts folder, the original draft
e-mails re-appear.



Sometimes, I can correct this situation by going into the drafts folder in
my personal g-mail account and eliminating the messages that way, but this
does not always work either.



Has anyone else experienced this issue?  And, if so, how did you ultimately
get rid of those stubborn draft messages?



Dr.  Tom Behler from Michigan





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Re: [JAWS-Users] Freedom Scientific in the news

2017-01-03 Thread Gene Warner


This is way cool!

Like the other list member, I'd also choose to go somewhere else, though 
I don't know where I'd want to go, because I live about 20 minutes away 
from Freedom Scientific's Saint Petersburg Florida headquarters.


I am such a computer junkie that I will always be thankful to Freedom 
Scientific  for making JAWS available. It and their Open Book programs 
are, in my book, must have programs.


I quit visiting an internet community because most of the members there 
used NVDA and were always going out of their way to post 
derogatory,disparaging, and hateful remarks about Freedom Scientific and 
JAWS. I eventually got tired of seeing those remarks, so I left.


Cheers!


On 1/2/2017 11:02 PM, wayne smith wrote:

Hello gang!



I was watching the news this evening here in Chicago on Channel 9 WGN.  They
were talking about a young man who was born very premature and without eyes.
He had an organ transplant in 2009 and made it to the ripe old age of 18.
"Make A Wish Foundation"  wanted to send him anywhere in the world he wanted
to go.  What was his choice?  He wanted to visit St. Petersburg Fl. to thank
the people at FS for JAWS which allows him to use a computer and connect
with people all over the world.  I tend to take JAWS for granted but it is
an amazing program for us.  The people from Make a Wish said that this is
the first time a recipient has asked to be taken somewhere to thank
somebody.  Andrew-you rock!



Wayne

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem WithPermanently Removing E-mails From Drafts Folder In Outlook 2016

2017-01-03 Thread Tom

simple is always the best

-Original Message- 
From: David Ferrin

Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2017 6:14 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem WithPermanently Removing E-mails From 
Drafts Folder In Outlook 2016

If he is hardwired then all he has to do is pull the cat 5 plug out of his
system. Nothing more than that little trick is all he needs.

-Original Message- 
From: Cristóbal

Sent: Monday, January 2, 2017 11:12 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem WithPermanently Removing E-mails From
Drafts Folder In Outlook 2016

This  works when I've got a message  stuck  in the  outgoing folder.
If you're on wifi, just disable  the wireless on your machine and if you're
hard  wired, depending  on what system you're running, go into  adaptor
settings  or network (maybe someone  else can give you  specific
instructions) and  disable the connection. Then go  back and try  to  delete
the messages and  hopefully after they're gone, go  back  and  enable  your
internet.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Monday, January 02, 2017 6:49 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem With Permanently Removing E-mails From
Drafts Folder In Outlook 2016

How exactly can I do this without interrupting internet service for the rest
of the household?

Am not sure why Outlook refuses to permanently delete these messages.

The problem only occurs with the drafts folder.

Tom Behler

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Cristóbal
Sent: Monday, January 02, 2017 9:44 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem With Permanently Removing E-mails From
Drafts Folder In Outlook 2016

Try  disabling your  wi-fy/internet connection  and then delete.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Monday, January 02, 2017 6:23 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem With Permanently Removing E-mails From
Drafts Folder In Outlook 2016

George:

I did this, and the messages re-appeared in my Outlook 2016 drafts folder!

This, even after I opened them from my in-box, and deleted them.

Tom Behler

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of TheHangMan
Sent: Monday, January 02, 2017 8:46 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem With Permanently Removing E-mails From
Drafts Folder In Outlook 2016

Hello,
I whip this trick from my magic bag,
Open the mail, shift tab back to the too field, back space the address and
add your own, tab back to the message body and send it to your self.

Jorge
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Monday, January 02, 2017 7:58 PM
To: 'Jaws users list' 
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Problem With Permanently Removing E-mails From Drafts
Folder In Outlook 2016

Hello.

I have just experienced the recurrence of a nagging problem in Outlook 2016.

I seem to be unable to remove items from my drafts folder.

I can move them to my trash folder, and supposedly permanently delete them
from that folder, but when I go back to my drafts folder, the original draft
e-mails re-appear.

Sometimes, I can correct this situation by going into the drafts folder in
my personal g-mail account and eliminating the messages that way, but this
does not always work either.

Has anyone else experienced this issue?  And, if so, how did you ultimately
get rid of those stubborn draft messages?

Dr.  Tom Behler from Michigan

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem With Permanently Removing E-mails From Drafts Folder In Outlook 2016

2017-01-03 Thread David Ferrin

If he is hardwired then all he has to do is pull the cat 5 plug out of his 
system. Nothing more than that little trick is all he needs.

-Original Message- 
From: Cristóbal

Sent: Monday, January 2, 2017 11:12 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem WithPermanently Removing E-mails From 
Drafts Folder In Outlook 2016

This  works when I've got a message  stuck  in the  outgoing folder.
If you're on wifi, just disable  the wireless on your machine and if you're
hard  wired, depending  on what system you're running, go into  adaptor
settings  or network (maybe someone  else can give you  specific
instructions) and  disable the connection. Then go  back and try  to  delete
the messages and  hopefully after they're gone, go  back  and  enable  your
internet.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Monday, January 02, 2017 6:49 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem With Permanently Removing E-mails From
Drafts Folder In Outlook 2016

How exactly can I do this without interrupting internet service for the rest
of the household?

Am not sure why Outlook refuses to permanently delete these messages.

The problem only occurs with the drafts folder.

Tom Behler

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Cristóbal
Sent: Monday, January 02, 2017 9:44 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem With Permanently Removing E-mails From
Drafts Folder In Outlook 2016

Try  disabling your  wi-fy/internet connection  and then delete.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Monday, January 02, 2017 6:23 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem With Permanently Removing E-mails From
Drafts Folder In Outlook 2016

George:

I did this, and the messages re-appeared in my Outlook 2016 drafts folder!

This, even after I opened them from my in-box, and deleted them.

Tom Behler

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of TheHangMan
Sent: Monday, January 02, 2017 8:46 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem With Permanently Removing E-mails From
Drafts Folder In Outlook 2016

Hello,
I whip this trick from my magic bag,
Open the mail, shift tab back to the too field, back space the address and
add your own, tab back to the message body and send it to your self.

Jorge
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Monday, January 02, 2017 7:58 PM
To: 'Jaws users list' 
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Problem With Permanently Removing E-mails From Drafts
Folder In Outlook 2016

Hello.

I have just experienced the recurrence of a nagging problem in Outlook 2016.

I seem to be unable to remove items from my drafts folder.

I can move them to my trash folder, and supposedly permanently delete them
from that folder, but when I go back to my drafts folder, the original draft
e-mails re-appear.

Sometimes, I can correct this situation by going into the drafts folder in
my personal g-mail account and eliminating the messages that way, but this
does not always work either.

Has anyone else experienced this issue?  And, if so, how did you ultimately
get rid of those stubborn draft messages?

Dr.  Tom Behler from Michigan

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