[JAWS-Users] how do I set my junk mail settings in outlook 2010?

[jimrawls]

I am running W10 and jaws 1 8. Jim

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Spotify and Jaws

[Daniel MacDonald]

hekki all,
their are excellent scripts for Spotify by John Marten. I've never
used Spotify, so cannot comment on those spasific scripts. his other
scripts are great though. you can fond the Spotify scripts at
spotifyblind.com.
hope this helps,
Daniel

On 2/28/17, Adrian Spratt  wrote:
> Understood about the level of accessibility. But with Pandora, when it's
> accessible, you can indicate which songs you like or dislike, thus narrowing
> the music that is presented to you. That's just one feature. I haven't tried
> Pandora in a while and I've never tried Spotify, but I'd find limited
> accessibility frustrating.
>
> As for Big Brother, isn't it reassuring to know he can be mistaken? Due to a
> mistake and subsequent laziness, I have my PC Audio and iDevices messages
> channeled to the same folder. So, unless you really have a double, Big
> Brother has sussed you out. He's just confused. In light of recent events,
> let's hope he stays that way.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
> Behalf Of Jean Menzies
> Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 3:17 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Spotify and Jaws
>
> Thanks Adrian,
>
> But I haven't joined PC Audio list. Gee, do I have a double out there? It's
> not me. lol.
>
> I wouldn't say the Spotify app is inaccesible. I don't know what
> functionality sighted people would have over what I can figure out. It is a
> bit confusing, though, and there are some unlabelled buttons. It does work,
> though. At least I can search for artists and play music. I don't know about
> managing playlists or saving music, etc.
>
> I do have an iPhone, or at least I will when my new one arrives later this
> week. My old 5 had a rather distasteful melt down, so I'm temporarily
> phoneless.
>
> Just hoping to use both platforms.
>
> Jean
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Adrian Spratt
> Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 11:20 AM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Spotify and Jaws
>
> Hi, Jean.
>
> Someone on the PC Audio list you just joined (yes, Big Brother is
> watching!!) recently posted that Spotify works well as an iPhone app but not
> on a PC. There was no follow-up to that thread. But maybe someone here has
> had a better experience. I was interested because I'd like to replace
> Pandora, which I've found difficult to use since Hope, the application
> designed to make it accessible, ceased to be supported.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
> Behalf Of Jean Menzies
> Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 2:05 PM
> To: JawsUsersList
> Subject: [JAWS-Users] Spotify and Jaws
>
> Hello everyone,
>
> We now have Spotify Premium Family Sharing in our house. I have downloaded
> the Windows Desktop Spotify app. It’s usable, but not all that intuative at
> first glance. I have no idea which version this is. Are there scripts or
> tips and tricks for using this with Jaws? I am running Jaws 18, but haven’t
> applied the most recent update.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Jean
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Re: [JAWS-Users] reg cleaners

[jyandt.martin]

Muchas Nachos

-Original Message- 
From: Mike B. !

Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 7:28 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] reg cleaners

Hi Jerry,

Our esteemed leader Señor Ferrin keeps a direct download link for the latest
version of CCleaner on the programs page of the Jaws-Users website.  It's
under the Disk And Registry Cleanup Utilities heading.  The link is below.

http://www.piriform.com/ccleaner/download/standard

Take care.
Mike
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- Original Message - 
From: jyandt.mar...@comcast.net

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 12:31 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] reg cleaners


Shane: Can you tell me where I can download the C-Cleaner program, and if it
is a freeby or not? Thanks.
Jerry

-Original Message- 
From: Shane Hecker

Sent: Monday, February 27, 2017 10:12 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] reg cleaners

Best  thing to do in that  case is attempt running the test on the
computer having problems, assuming you can get it to stay up long enough
to run the test. Wow, 8088? I remember those. Actually, my first laptop
was an 8086 running I think Dos  4.10, later upgraded to  Dos 5.0. Think
this was back in the late 1980's. I am pretty sure even a 15 year old
computer would trounce that 8086 any day of the week with both hands
tied behind it's back. At  any rate, give the programs I mentioned a
whirl and see what happens. Oh, and the less running in the background,
the better, especially for the memory test.

If you are interested in the docking station I mentioned, here's a link
for it.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00T0ZRAOK/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o08_s00?ie=UTF8=1


Shane


On 2/27/2017 9:54 PM, Lenny McHugh wrote:

Shane,
I do not have the docking station. I have this old desktop and an hp
laptop that is as about as fast as an old 8088.

-Original Message- From: Shane Hecker
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2017 9:38 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] reg cleaners

I'd test the hard drive first. Usually it's the number 1 thing that goes
out. If you have a second computer with a USB port and a docking station
for hard drives, this should be relatively straight forward. Basically
what you do is connect the hard drive to the station, connect the
station to your second computer via USB, then run tests to see if there
are problems. Based on what you've said I'm assuming you know some about
this. For thorough testing of a hard drive, you may want to look up
"Bart's Stuff Test". It's an old program but it works nicely and it's
free.

If the hard drive is sound,  and you want to test memory, look up "Mem
Test HCI". There's a free and a commercial version. The free version
should do what you want.


Shane


On 2/27/2017 8:03 PM, Lenny McHugh wrote:

hello Shane, Thanks, this is what I always thought. I am at the point
where I am willing to do anything. I guess that I will just first to try
the reinstall of windows. If it does not work it confirms my thought that
it is a hardware problem.  I will then probably replace both the mb and
hd. Reinstall win 7 then upgrade to 10. This machine is about 6 years old
a few months after win 7 was released


-Original Message- From: Shane Hecker
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2017 8:13 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] reg cleaners

I'd run cCleaner. It does a pretty good job and is accessible for the
most part. However you may wish to consider a couple articles:

https://www.howtogeek.com/171633/why-using-a-registry-cleaner-wont-speed-up-your-pc-or-fix-crashes/

http://news.softpedia.com/news/are-registry-cleaners-still-needed-on-windows-10-microsoft-says-they-re-not-498103.shtml

Take the  second one  for what it's worth.


Shane


On 2/27/2017 6:44 PM, Lenny McHugh wrote:

What is the best win 7 reg cleaner. I want to try that before  I try to
reconstruct this machine.
I do suspect a hardware problem but want to eliminate any software
issues
first.



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Re: [JAWS-Users] reg cleaners

[Mike B.]

Hi Jerry,

Our esteemed leader Señor Ferrin keeps a direct download link for the latest 
version of CCleaner on the programs page of the Jaws-Users website.  It's 
under the Disk And Registry Cleanup Utilities heading.  The link is below.

http://www.piriform.com/ccleaner/download/standard

Take care.
Mike
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- Original Message - 
From: jyandt.mar...@comcast.net
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 12:31 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] reg cleaners


Shane: Can you tell me where I can download the C-Cleaner program, and if it
is a freeby or not? Thanks.
Jerry

-Original Message- 
From: Shane Hecker
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2017 10:12 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] reg cleaners

Best  thing to do in that  case is attempt running the test on the
computer having problems, assuming you can get it to stay up long enough
to run the test. Wow, 8088? I remember those. Actually, my first laptop
was an 8086 running I think Dos  4.10, later upgraded to  Dos 5.0. Think
this was back in the late 1980's. I am pretty sure even a 15 year old
computer would trounce that 8086 any day of the week with both hands
tied behind it's back. At  any rate, give the programs I mentioned a
whirl and see what happens. Oh, and the less running in the background,
the better, especially for the memory test.

If you are interested in the docking station I mentioned, here's a link
for it.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00T0ZRAOK/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o08_s00?ie=UTF8=1


Shane


On 2/27/2017 9:54 PM, Lenny McHugh wrote:
> Shane,
> I do not have the docking station. I have this old desktop and an hp
> laptop that is as about as fast as an old 8088.
>
> -Original Message- From: Shane Hecker
> Sent: Monday, February 27, 2017 9:38 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] reg cleaners
>
> I'd test the hard drive first. Usually it's the number 1 thing that goes
> out. If you have a second computer with a USB port and a docking station
> for hard drives, this should be relatively straight forward. Basically
> what you do is connect the hard drive to the station, connect the
> station to your second computer via USB, then run tests to see if there
> are problems. Based on what you've said I'm assuming you know some about
> this. For thorough testing of a hard drive, you may want to look up
> "Bart's Stuff Test". It's an old program but it works nicely and it's
> free.
>
> If the hard drive is sound,  and you want to test memory, look up "Mem
> Test HCI". There's a free and a commercial version. The free version
> should do what you want.
>
>
> Shane
>
>
> On 2/27/2017 8:03 PM, Lenny McHugh wrote:
>> hello Shane, Thanks, this is what I always thought. I am at the point
>> where I am willing to do anything. I guess that I will just first to try
>> the reinstall of windows. If it does not work it confirms my thought that
>> it is a hardware problem.  I will then probably replace both the mb and
>> hd. Reinstall win 7 then upgrade to 10. This machine is about 6 years old
>> a few months after win 7 was released
>>
>>
>> -Original Message- From: Shane Hecker
>> Sent: Monday, February 27, 2017 8:13 PM
>> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
>> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] reg cleaners
>>
>> I'd run cCleaner. It does a pretty good job and is accessible for the
>> most part. However you may wish to consider a couple articles:
>>
>> https://www.howtogeek.com/171633/why-using-a-registry-cleaner-wont-speed-up-your-pc-or-fix-crashes/
>>
>> http://news.softpedia.com/news/are-registry-cleaners-still-needed-on-windows-10-microsoft-says-they-re-not-498103.shtml
>>
>> Take the  second one  for what it's worth.
>>
>>
>> Shane
>>
>>
>> On 2/27/2017 6:44 PM, Lenny McHugh wrote:
>>> What is the best win 7 reg cleaner. I want to try that before  I try to
>>> reconstruct this machine.
>>> I do suspect a hardware problem but want to eliminate any software
>>> issues
>>> first.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ---
>>>
>>> Please visit my web page
>>>
>>> It’s motivational, inspirational with a touch of humor
>>>
>>> There is also a very extensive resource list for the blind
>>>
>>> http://www.LennyMcHugh.com
>>>
>>> International Brotherhood of Magicians member #43990
>>> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
>>> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
>>>
>>
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>
>
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[JAWS-Users] Testing my email, please ignore

[Jim]

Just testing my email, please ignore, thanks.

 

 

A Ballast for My Soul

 

Life is like a stormy sea

That tosses to and fro,

But God's Word will ever be

A ballast for my soul.

By its truth I'll be held fast

Till I reach heaven's shore

Where I will be home at last

And sail life's sea no more!

Author: Perry Boardman.

Jim.

 

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Need Help With Two Jaws Issues

[TheHangMan]

Tom,
Windows enter is the correct command for Windows 10.
Jorge
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 3:42 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Need Help With Two Jaws Issues

Becky, I may be wrong, but I wonder if you set up this command for Narrator.
It doesn't work on my Windows 7 machine and never has. As a result, I was
able to assign this same command to start NVDA.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Becky Buckner
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 2:21 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Need Help With Two Jaws Issues

I am using windows 7 and Alt with control and the letter N will bring up
Narrator.
- Original Message -
From: "Adrian Spratt" 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 12:19 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Need Help With Two Jaws Issues


> Tom,
>
> Let's start over. In Windows 7, the simplest or most reliable way to
> invoke Narrator is to press Windows key+r to bring up the "run"
> dialog, then type narrator. Wait a second or two and Narrator starts
> speaking. To close Narrator, tab twice to "Exit." Press spacebar, then
> alt-y to confirm.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
> On Behalf Of Tom Behler
> Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 11:45 AM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Need Help With Two Jaws Issues
>
> Jim:
>
> I just tried Windows key plus enter to launch Narrator, but couldn't
> get it to come up.
>
> Perhaps I should clarify that I'm using Windows 7 and Jaws 17 here.
>
> Can you do this with Jaws active?
>
> I tried both with and without Jaws, but had no luck.
>
> What am I doing wrong?
>
> Tom Behler
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
> On Behalf Of Jim
> Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 10:38 AM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Need Help With Two Jaws Issues
>
> Press Windows key+Enter, yes this is a toggle keystroke, press it once
> to turn Narrator on, press it again to turn narrator off.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
> On Behalf Of Tom Behler
> Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 10:02 AM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Need Help With Two Jaws Issues
>
> Hello.
>
> I have conflicting instructions here regarding how to start Windows
> Narrator.
>
> One set of instructions says hit the Windows key plus enter
> simultaneously; this supposedly is a toggle to turn Narrator on and off.
>
> Another set of instructions I have here says to hit the windows key
> plus the letter U. to open the access center;  and then press Alt N to
> launch narrator.
>
> Can someone tell me which of these instructions are accurate?
>
> Thanks as always!
>
> Dr.  Tom Behler from Michigan
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
> On Behalf Of TheHangMan
> Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 8:35 AM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Need Help With Two Jaws Issues
>
> Tom,
> I just press the spacebar once and the password box comes up.
> If, nothing happens on start up, I switch to narrator and it gets the
> job done.
> Jorge
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
> On Behalf Of Tom Behler
> Sent: Monday, February 27, 2017 9:13 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Need Help With Two Jaws Issues
>
> Thanks, Mike.
>
> I appreciate these additional instructions, and will save for future
> reference, should the problem recur.
>
> Tom Behler
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
> On Behalf Of Mike O'Brien
> Sent: Monday, February 27, 2017 1:43 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Need Help With Two Jaws Issues
>
> Hi
>
> Unfortunately, the items in the start-up folder are only started after
> the user has logged in.  So putting an icon for JAWS in the start-up
> folder will not provide speech on the log-in screen.  Now that JAWS is
> speaking on the log-in screen, , you could do the following to help if
> you have the JAWS starting problem again.
>
> 1.  Start the computer and wait until JAWS starts talking on the
> log-in screen.
> 2.  Press tab until you get to the password for your user id, counting
> the number of times you had to press tab
>
> if JAWS again does not speak on the log-in screen, after waiting for a
> while when you turn the computer on, press tab the number 

[JAWS-Users] Starting Microsoft Narrator

[Rick Justice]

There are several ways to start Narrator depending on which version of 
Windows is being used,
however one way is common in Windows 2000 thru at least Windows 7, and 
probably 8 & 10.
Open the run dialogue and type:
narrator
and then press enter.

Windows XP:
Press Windows key + U, to open the utility Manager, then Alt + N to start 
Narrator.
Note: if Narrator is set to start with the Utility Manager,then the second 
keystroke is not needed.

Windows Vista, 7 & possibly 8:
Press Windows key + U, to open the Ease of Access Center, and then Alt + N 
to start Narrator.

Windows 10:
Press Windows key + Enter to start Narrator.

HTH,
Rick Justice

Tomorrow's another day, another way!
and if tomorrow never comes, problem solved!

Note:
It is my understanding that the keystroke for starting Narrator is supposed 
to change in a later update to Windows 10.


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[JAWS-Users] jaws friendly free rss reader

[startrekcafe]

Hi. Using a rss reader called sharp reader from http://www.sharpreader.net. But 
not reading all of the messages in some of the feeds. And will not accept one 
feed, when try to connect. So, was wondering, what jaws friendly free 
accessible rss readers are there for windows 10.
Thanks.
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Re: [JAWS-Users] D Frag

[Justin Williams]

Try rooting jaws to pc and reading it.  However, I think the times I've run
defrag I've turned off jaws so it could get defragged too.  I usually did it
when I was asleep.
 Justin

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Subash
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 5:04 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] D Frag

Hi, also, if you use say all in jaws, it will read what's going on.

-Original Message-
From: T. Civitello
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 1:13 PM
To: Jaws users list
Subject: [JAWS-Users] D Frag

This morning I ran D frag. Is there some way to hear what is happening while
the program is running and telling when the process is completed? I had a
friend watch while the program was running and there was a lot going on but
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Re: [JAWS-Users] D Frag

[Subash]

Hi, also, if you use say all in jaws, it will read what's going on.

-Original Message- 
From: T. Civitello

Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 1:13 PM
To: Jaws users list
Subject: [JAWS-Users] D Frag

This morning I ran D frag. Is there some way to hear what is happening while 
the program is running and telling when the process is completed? I had a 
friend watch while the program was running and there was a lot going on but 
Jaws said nothing.  Tom

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Re: [JAWS-Users] reg cleaners

[jyandt.martin]

Many Thanks.

-Original Message- 
From: Shane Hecker

Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 3:20 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] reg cleaners

You can get it from:

https://www.piriform.com/ccleaner

There are 2 versions, one is free, the other you have to pay for. The
free one will work for what you need.

Shane

On 2/28/2017 2:31 PM, jyandt.mar...@comcast.net wrote:
Shane: Can you tell me where I can download the C-Cleaner program, and if 
it is a freeby or not? Thanks.

Jerry

-Original Message- From: Shane Hecker
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2017 10:12 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] reg cleaners

Best  thing to do in that  case is attempt running the test on the
computer having problems, assuming you can get it to stay up long enough
to run the test. Wow, 8088? I remember those. Actually, my first laptop
was an 8086 running I think Dos  4.10, later upgraded to  Dos 5.0. Think
this was back in the late 1980's. I am pretty sure even a 15 year old
computer would trounce that 8086 any day of the week with both hands
tied behind it's back. At  any rate, give the programs I mentioned a
whirl and see what happens. Oh, and the less running in the background,
the better, especially for the memory test.

If you are interested in the docking station I mentioned, here's a link
for it.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00T0ZRAOK/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o08_s00?ie=UTF8=1


Shane


On 2/27/2017 9:54 PM, Lenny McHugh wrote:

Shane,
I do not have the docking station. I have this old desktop and an hp 
laptop that is as about as fast as an old 8088.


-Original Message- From: Shane Hecker
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2017 9:38 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] reg cleaners

I'd test the hard drive first. Usually it's the number 1 thing that goes
out. If you have a second computer with a USB port and a docking station
for hard drives, this should be relatively straight forward. Basically
what you do is connect the hard drive to the station, connect the
station to your second computer via USB, then run tests to see if there
are problems. Based on what you've said I'm assuming you know some about
this. For thorough testing of a hard drive, you may want to look up
"Bart's Stuff Test". It's an old program but it works nicely and it's 
free.


If the hard drive is sound,  and you want to test memory, look up "Mem
Test HCI". There's a free and a commercial version. The free version
should do what you want.


Shane


On 2/27/2017 8:03 PM, Lenny McHugh wrote:
hello Shane, Thanks, this is what I always thought. I am at the point 
where I am willing to do anything. I guess that I will just first to try 
the reinstall of windows. If it does not work it confirms my thought 
that it is a hardware problem.  I will then probably replace both the mb 
and hd. Reinstall win 7 then upgrade to 10. This machine is about 6 
years old a few months after win 7 was released



-Original Message- From: Shane Hecker
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2017 8:13 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] reg cleaners

I'd run cCleaner. It does a pretty good job and is accessible for the
most part. However you may wish to consider a couple articles:

https://www.howtogeek.com/171633/why-using-a-registry-cleaner-wont-speed-up-your-pc-or-fix-crashes/

http://news.softpedia.com/news/are-registry-cleaners-still-needed-on-windows-10-microsoft-says-they-re-not-498103.shtml

Take the  second one  for what it's worth.


Shane


On 2/27/2017 6:44 PM, Lenny McHugh wrote:

What is the best win 7 reg cleaner. I want to try that before  I try to
reconstruct this machine.
I do suspect a hardware problem but want to eliminate any software 
issues

first.



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Re: [JAWS-Users] reg cleaners

[Shane Hecker]

You can get it from:

https://www.piriform.com/ccleaner

There are 2 versions, one is free, the other you have to pay for. The 
free one will work for what you need.


Shane

On 2/28/2017 2:31 PM, jyandt.mar...@comcast.net wrote:
Shane: Can you tell me where I can download the C-Cleaner program, and 
if it is a freeby or not? Thanks.

Jerry

-Original Message- From: Shane Hecker
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2017 10:12 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] reg cleaners

Best  thing to do in that  case is attempt running the test on the
computer having problems, assuming you can get it to stay up long enough
to run the test. Wow, 8088? I remember those. Actually, my first laptop
was an 8086 running I think Dos  4.10, later upgraded to  Dos 5.0. Think
this was back in the late 1980's. I am pretty sure even a 15 year old
computer would trounce that 8086 any day of the week with both hands
tied behind it's back. At  any rate, give the programs I mentioned a
whirl and see what happens. Oh, and the less running in the background,
the better, especially for the memory test.

If you are interested in the docking station I mentioned, here's a link
for it.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00T0ZRAOK/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o08_s00?ie=UTF8=1 




Shane


On 2/27/2017 9:54 PM, Lenny McHugh wrote:

Shane,
I do not have the docking station. I have this old desktop and an hp 
laptop that is as about as fast as an old 8088.


-Original Message- From: Shane Hecker
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2017 9:38 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] reg cleaners

I'd test the hard drive first. Usually it's the number 1 thing that goes
out. If you have a second computer with a USB port and a docking station
for hard drives, this should be relatively straight forward. Basically
what you do is connect the hard drive to the station, connect the
station to your second computer via USB, then run tests to see if there
are problems. Based on what you've said I'm assuming you know some about
this. For thorough testing of a hard drive, you may want to look up
"Bart's Stuff Test". It's an old program but it works nicely and it's 
free.


If the hard drive is sound,  and you want to test memory, look up "Mem
Test HCI". There's a free and a commercial version. The free version
should do what you want.


Shane


On 2/27/2017 8:03 PM, Lenny McHugh wrote:
hello Shane, Thanks, this is what I always thought. I am at the 
point where I am willing to do anything. I guess that I will just 
first to try the reinstall of windows. If it does not work it 
confirms my thought that it is a hardware problem.  I will then 
probably replace both the mb and hd. Reinstall win 7 then upgrade to 
10. This machine is about 6 years old a few months after win 7 was 
released



-Original Message- From: Shane Hecker
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2017 8:13 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] reg cleaners

I'd run cCleaner. It does a pretty good job and is accessible for the
most part. However you may wish to consider a couple articles:

https://www.howtogeek.com/171633/why-using-a-registry-cleaner-wont-speed-up-your-pc-or-fix-crashes/ 



http://news.softpedia.com/news/are-registry-cleaners-still-needed-on-windows-10-microsoft-says-they-re-not-498103.shtml 



Take the  second one  for what it's worth.


Shane


On 2/27/2017 6:44 PM, Lenny McHugh wrote:
What is the best win 7 reg cleaner. I want to try that before  I 
try to

reconstruct this machine.
I do suspect a hardware problem but want to eliminate any software 
issues

first.



---

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It’s motivational, inspirational with a touch of humor

There is also a very extensive resource list for the blind

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Re: [JAWS-Users] need a refresher course on how to set up message rules in outlook 2010.

[David Whitehead]

1. Be on the email account you wish to add a folder to.
For example: ***outlook.com, the *** standing for your name followed by
the email address.
Highlight that account folder, press the applications key while on it.
2. Go down to: New Folder... press enter.
3. Type in the folder name, press enter.
The new folder is created.
4. Go into the inbox of the account you have added the new folder to.
5. Arrow down and highlight the email you wish to put into this folder.
For example: Jaws users list or the Windows 10 and Jaws list.
6. Press the applications key.
7. Arrow down to Rules sub menu, press the right arrow key one time.
8. Press enter on: Always move messages from***followed by the name of the
group or person for this folder.
9. Arrow up and down through the list of folders in this tree view, find the
new folder, press enter.
10. All the emails for now on that you have selected, either a list, group,
or personal email, from these choices will always go into this new folder.
Remember while in the tree view of folders, right arrow key, expands a
folder account, and left arrow closes the list of folders for that account.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of jimrawls
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 11:09 AM
To: jaws users 
Subject: [JAWS-Users] need a refresher course on how to set up message rules
in outlook 2010.

Hi all, someone had a good idea on how to do it, and I have lost that email.
Can someone please send it again please? I am running W10 and jaws 18. Jim

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Need Help With Two Jaws Issues

[Adrian Spratt]

Becky, I may be wrong, but I wonder if you set up this command for Narrator. It 
doesn't work on my Windows 7 machine and never has. As a result, I was able to 
assign this same command to start NVDA.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Becky Buckner
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 2:21 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Need Help With Two Jaws Issues

I am using windows 7 and Alt with control and the letter N will bring up 
Narrator.
- Original Message -
From: "Adrian Spratt" 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 12:19 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Need Help With Two Jaws Issues


> Tom,
>
> Let's start over. In Windows 7, the simplest or most reliable way to 
> invoke Narrator is to press Windows key+r to bring up the "run" 
> dialog, then type narrator. Wait a second or two and Narrator starts 
> speaking. To close Narrator, tab twice to "Exit." Press spacebar, then 
> alt-y to confirm.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] 
> On Behalf Of Tom Behler
> Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 11:45 AM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Need Help With Two Jaws Issues
>
> Jim:
>
> I just tried Windows key plus enter to launch Narrator, but couldn't 
> get it to come up.
>
> Perhaps I should clarify that I'm using Windows 7 and Jaws 17 here.
>
> Can you do this with Jaws active?
>
> I tried both with and without Jaws, but had no luck.
>
> What am I doing wrong?
>
> Tom Behler
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] 
> On Behalf Of Jim
> Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 10:38 AM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Need Help With Two Jaws Issues
>
> Press Windows key+Enter, yes this is a toggle keystroke, press it once 
> to turn Narrator on, press it again to turn narrator off.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] 
> On Behalf Of Tom Behler
> Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 10:02 AM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Need Help With Two Jaws Issues
>
> Hello.
>
> I have conflicting instructions here regarding how to start Windows 
> Narrator.
>
> One set of instructions says hit the Windows key plus enter 
> simultaneously; this supposedly is a toggle to turn Narrator on and off.
>
> Another set of instructions I have here says to hit the windows key 
> plus the letter U. to open the access center;  and then press Alt N to 
> launch narrator.
>
> Can someone tell me which of these instructions are accurate?
>
> Thanks as always!
>
> Dr.  Tom Behler from Michigan
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] 
> On Behalf Of TheHangMan
> Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 8:35 AM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Need Help With Two Jaws Issues
>
> Tom,
> I just press the spacebar once and the password box comes up.
> If, nothing happens on start up, I switch to narrator and it gets the 
> job done.
> Jorge
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] 
> On Behalf Of Tom Behler
> Sent: Monday, February 27, 2017 9:13 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Need Help With Two Jaws Issues
>
> Thanks, Mike.
>
> I appreciate these additional instructions, and will save for future 
> reference, should the problem recur.
>
> Tom Behler
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] 
> On Behalf Of Mike O'Brien
> Sent: Monday, February 27, 2017 1:43 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Need Help With Two Jaws Issues
>
> Hi
>
> Unfortunately, the items in the start-up folder are only started after 
> the user has logged in.  So putting an icon for JAWS in the start-up 
> folder will not provide speech on the log-in screen.  Now that JAWS is 
> speaking on the log-in screen, , you could do the following to help if 
> you have the JAWS starting problem again.
>
> 1.  Start the computer and wait until JAWS starts talking on the 
> log-in screen.
> 2.  Press tab until you get to the password for your user id, counting 
> the number of times you had to press tab
>
> if JAWS again does not speak on the log-in screen, after waiting for a 
> while when you turn the computer on, press tab the number of times you 
> counted, enter your password and press enter.  This should get you 
> logged in.
>
> When you're logged in, you can always start JAWS by pressing 
> Windows-key and type JAWS?? and press enter. ?? is the version of JAWS 
> you want to start 17, 18, etc..
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List 

Re: [JAWS-Users] Spotify and Jaws

[Adrian Spratt]

Understood about the level of accessibility. But with Pandora, when it's 
accessible, you can indicate which songs you like or dislike, thus narrowing 
the music that is presented to you. That's just one feature. I haven't tried 
Pandora in a while and I've never tried Spotify, but I'd find limited 
accessibility frustrating. 

As for Big Brother, isn't it reassuring to know he can be mistaken? Due to a 
mistake and subsequent laziness, I have my PC Audio and iDevices messages 
channeled to the same folder. So, unless you really have a double, Big Brother 
has sussed you out. He's just confused. In light of recent events, let's hope 
he stays that way.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Jean Menzies
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 3:17 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Spotify and Jaws

Thanks Adrian,

But I haven't joined PC Audio list. Gee, do I have a double out there? It's not 
me. lol.

I wouldn't say the Spotify app is inaccesible. I don't know what functionality 
sighted people would have over what I can figure out. It is a bit confusing, 
though, and there are some unlabelled buttons. It does work, though. At least I 
can search for artists and play music. I don't know about managing playlists or 
saving music, etc.

I do have an iPhone, or at least I will when my new one arrives later this 
week. My old 5 had a rather distasteful melt down, so I'm temporarily phoneless.

Just hoping to use both platforms.

Jean

-Original Message-
From: Adrian Spratt
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 11:20 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Spotify and Jaws

Hi, Jean.

Someone on the PC Audio list you just joined (yes, Big Brother is
watching!!) recently posted that Spotify works well as an iPhone app but not on 
a PC. There was no follow-up to that thread. But maybe someone here has had a 
better experience. I was interested because I'd like to replace Pandora, which 
I've found difficult to use since Hope, the application designed to make it 
accessible, ceased to be supported.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Jean Menzies
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 2:05 PM
To: JawsUsersList
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Spotify and Jaws

Hello everyone,

We now have Spotify Premium Family Sharing in our house. I have downloaded the 
Windows Desktop Spotify app. It’s usable, but not all that intuative at first 
glance. I have no idea which version this is. Are there scripts or tips and 
tricks for using this with Jaws? I am running Jaws 18, but haven’t applied the 
most recent update.

Thanks.

Jean
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Re: [JAWS-Users] reg cleaners

[jyandt.martin]

Shane: Can you tell me where I can download the C-Cleaner program, and if it 
is a freeby or not? Thanks.

Jerry

-Original Message- 
From: Shane Hecker

Sent: Monday, February 27, 2017 10:12 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] reg cleaners

Best  thing to do in that  case is attempt running the test on the
computer having problems, assuming you can get it to stay up long enough
to run the test. Wow, 8088? I remember those. Actually, my first laptop
was an 8086 running I think Dos  4.10, later upgraded to  Dos 5.0. Think
this was back in the late 1980's. I am pretty sure even a 15 year old
computer would trounce that 8086 any day of the week with both hands
tied behind it's back. At  any rate, give the programs I mentioned a
whirl and see what happens. Oh, and the less running in the background,
the better, especially for the memory test.

If you are interested in the docking station I mentioned, here's a link
for it.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00T0ZRAOK/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o08_s00?ie=UTF8=1


Shane


On 2/27/2017 9:54 PM, Lenny McHugh wrote:

Shane,
I do not have the docking station. I have this old desktop and an hp 
laptop that is as about as fast as an old 8088.


-Original Message- From: Shane Hecker
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2017 9:38 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] reg cleaners

I'd test the hard drive first. Usually it's the number 1 thing that goes
out. If you have a second computer with a USB port and a docking station
for hard drives, this should be relatively straight forward. Basically
what you do is connect the hard drive to the station, connect the
station to your second computer via USB, then run tests to see if there
are problems. Based on what you've said I'm assuming you know some about
this. For thorough testing of a hard drive, you may want to look up
"Bart's Stuff Test". It's an old program but it works nicely and it's 
free.


If the hard drive is sound,  and you want to test memory, look up "Mem
Test HCI". There's a free and a commercial version. The free version
should do what you want.


Shane


On 2/27/2017 8:03 PM, Lenny McHugh wrote:
hello Shane, Thanks, this is what I always thought. I am at the point 
where I am willing to do anything. I guess that I will just first to try 
the reinstall of windows. If it does not work it confirms my thought that 
it is a hardware problem.  I will then probably replace both the mb and 
hd. Reinstall win 7 then upgrade to 10. This machine is about 6 years old 
a few months after win 7 was released



-Original Message- From: Shane Hecker
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2017 8:13 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] reg cleaners

I'd run cCleaner. It does a pretty good job and is accessible for the
most part. However you may wish to consider a couple articles:

https://www.howtogeek.com/171633/why-using-a-registry-cleaner-wont-speed-up-your-pc-or-fix-crashes/

http://news.softpedia.com/news/are-registry-cleaners-still-needed-on-windows-10-microsoft-says-they-re-not-498103.shtml

Take the  second one  for what it's worth.


Shane


On 2/27/2017 6:44 PM, Lenny McHugh wrote:

What is the best win 7 reg cleaner. I want to try that before  I try to
reconstruct this machine.
I do suspect a hardware problem but want to eliminate any software 
issues

first.



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It’s motivational, inspirational with a touch of humor

There is also a very extensive resource list for the blind

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Re: [JAWS-Users] reg cleaners

[John Fitzgerald]

I used ccleaner, I was getting ready to send my computer back to get a new
hard drive, but thought I'd run ccleaner first, it seems to have taken care of
all my problems.   I've had no issues for aver a month now.

John Fitzgerald
Muse, Oklahoma 
Article V Convention of States
http://www.cosaction.com/?recruiter_id=1022484

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Lenny McHugh
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2017 6:44 PM
To: JFW List
Subject: [JAWS-Users] reg cleaners

What is the best win 7 reg cleaner. I want to try that before  I try to
reconstruct this machine.
I do suspect a hardware problem but want to eliminate any software issues
first.



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Re: [JAWS-Users] Spotify and Jaws

[Jean Menzies]

Thanks Adrian,

But I haven't joined PC Audio list. Gee, do I have a double out there? It's 
not me. lol.


I wouldn't say the Spotify app is inaccesible. I don't know what 
functionality sighted people would have over what I can figure out. It is a 
bit confusing, though, and there are some unlabelled buttons. It does work, 
though. At least I can search for artists and play music. I don't know about 
managing playlists or saving music, etc.


I do have an iPhone, or at least I will when my new one arrives later this 
week. My old 5 had a rather distasteful melt down, so I'm temporarily 
phoneless.


Just hoping to use both platforms.

Jean

-Original Message- 
From: Adrian Spratt

Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 11:20 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Spotify and Jaws

Hi, Jean.

Someone on the PC Audio list you just joined (yes, Big Brother is 
watching!!) recently posted that Spotify works well as an iPhone app but not 
on a PC. There was no follow-up to that thread. But maybe someone here has 
had a better experience. I was interested because I'd like to replace 
Pandora, which I've found difficult to use since Hope, the application 
designed to make it accessible, ceased to be supported.


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
Behalf Of Jean Menzies

Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 2:05 PM
To: JawsUsersList
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Spotify and Jaws

Hello everyone,

We now have Spotify Premium Family Sharing in our house. I have downloaded 
the Windows Desktop Spotify app. It’s usable, but not all that intuative at 
first glance. I have no idea which version this is. Are there scripts or 
tips and tricks for using this with Jaws? I am running Jaws 18, but haven’t 
applied the most recent update.


Thanks.

Jean
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Re: [JAWS-Users] need a refresher course on how to set up message rules in outlook 2010.

[Maria Kristic]

You go in to the Context Menu when focused on a message for which you want
to create a rule, select Rules > Create New, and then go through the dialog
box to set the options you want...

Regards,
Maria


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of jimrawls
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 11:09 AM
To: jaws users 
Subject: [JAWS-Users] need a refresher course on how to set up message rules
in outlook 2010.

Hi all, someone had a good idea on how to do it, and I have lost that email.
Can someone please send it again please? I am running W10 and jaws 18. Jim

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[JAWS-Users] How to start Narrator, Windows 7 versus Windows 10

[Tim Ford]

Just making the subject line more descriptive.

Tim Ford


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 11:39 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Need Help With Two Jaws Issues

Thanks, Adrian.

I got it now.

Very easy.

Tom Behler


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 12:19 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Need Help With Two Jaws Issues

Tom,

Let's start over. In Windows 7, the simplest or most reliable way to invoke
Narrator is to press Windows key+r to bring up the "run" dialog, then type
narrator. Wait a second or two and Narrator starts speaking. To close
Narrator, tab twice to "Exit." Press spacebar, then alt-y to confirm.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 11:45 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Need Help With Two Jaws Issues

Jim:

I just tried Windows key plus enter to launch Narrator, but couldn't get it
to come up.

Perhaps I should clarify that I'm using Windows 7 and Jaws 17 here.

Can you do this with Jaws active?

I tried both with and without Jaws, but had no luck.

What am I doing wrong?

Tom Behler


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Jim
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 10:38 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Need Help With Two Jaws Issues

Press Windows key+Enter, yes this is a toggle keystroke, press it once to
turn Narrator on, press it again to turn narrator off.


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 10:02 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Need Help With Two Jaws Issues

Hello.

I have conflicting instructions here regarding how to start Windows
Narrator.

One set of instructions says hit the Windows key plus enter simultaneously;
this supposedly is a toggle to turn Narrator on and off.

Another set of instructions I have here says to hit the windows key plus the
letter U. to open the access center;  and then press Alt N to launch
narrator.

Can someone tell me which of these instructions are accurate?

Thanks as always!

Dr.  Tom Behler from Michigan



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of TheHangMan
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 8:35 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Need Help With Two Jaws Issues

Tom,
I just press the spacebar once and the password box comes up.
If, nothing happens on start up, I switch to narrator and it gets the job
done.
Jorge

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2017 9:13 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Need Help With Two Jaws Issues

Thanks, Mike.

I appreciate these additional instructions, and will save for future
reference, should the problem recur.

Tom Behler


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mike O'Brien
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2017 1:43 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Need Help With Two Jaws Issues

Hi

Unfortunately, the items in the start-up folder are only started after the
user has logged in.  So putting an icon for JAWS in the start-up folder will
not provide speech on the log-in screen.  Now that JAWS is speaking on the
log-in screen, , you could do the following to help if you have the JAWS
starting problem again.

1.  Start the computer and wait until JAWS starts talking on the log-in
screen.
2.  Press tab until you get to the password for your user id, counting the
number of times you had to press tab

if JAWS again does not speak on the log-in screen, after waiting for a while
when you turn the computer on, press tab the number of times you counted,
enter your password and press enter.  This should get you logged in.

When you're logged in, you can always start JAWS by pressing Windows-key and
type JAWS?? and press enter. ?? is the version of JAWS you want to start 17,
18, etc..


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2017 10:39
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Need Help With Two Jaws Issues

That's what I believe I did last night.

Kind of stumbled upon the solution, but at least it seems to have worked.

Tom Behler

Re: [JAWS-Users] Need Help With Two Jaws Issues

[Tom Behler]

Thanks, Adrian.

I got it now.

Very easy.

Tom Behler


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 12:19 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Need Help With Two Jaws Issues

Tom,

Let's start over. In Windows 7, the simplest or most reliable way to invoke
Narrator is to press Windows key+r to bring up the "run" dialog, then type
narrator. Wait a second or two and Narrator starts speaking. To close
Narrator, tab twice to "Exit." Press spacebar, then alt-y to confirm.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 11:45 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Need Help With Two Jaws Issues

Jim:

I just tried Windows key plus enter to launch Narrator, but couldn't get it
to come up.

Perhaps I should clarify that I'm using Windows 7 and Jaws 17 here.

Can you do this with Jaws active?

I tried both with and without Jaws, but had no luck.

What am I doing wrong?

Tom Behler


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Jim
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 10:38 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Need Help With Two Jaws Issues

Press Windows key+Enter, yes this is a toggle keystroke, press it once to
turn Narrator on, press it again to turn narrator off.


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 10:02 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Need Help With Two Jaws Issues

Hello.

I have conflicting instructions here regarding how to start Windows
Narrator.

One set of instructions says hit the Windows key plus enter simultaneously;
this supposedly is a toggle to turn Narrator on and off.

Another set of instructions I have here says to hit the windows key plus the
letter U. to open the access center;  and then press Alt N to launch
narrator.

Can someone tell me which of these instructions are accurate?

Thanks as always!

Dr.  Tom Behler from Michigan



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of TheHangMan
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 8:35 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Need Help With Two Jaws Issues

Tom,
I just press the spacebar once and the password box comes up.
If, nothing happens on start up, I switch to narrator and it gets the job
done.
Jorge

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2017 9:13 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Need Help With Two Jaws Issues

Thanks, Mike.

I appreciate these additional instructions, and will save for future
reference, should the problem recur.

Tom Behler


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mike O'Brien
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2017 1:43 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Need Help With Two Jaws Issues

Hi

Unfortunately, the items in the start-up folder are only started after the
user has logged in.  So putting an icon for JAWS in the start-up folder will
not provide speech on the log-in screen.  Now that JAWS is speaking on the
log-in screen, , you could do the following to help if you have the JAWS
starting problem again.

1.  Start the computer and wait until JAWS starts talking on the log-in
screen.
2.  Press tab until you get to the password for your user id, counting the
number of times you had to press tab

if JAWS again does not speak on the log-in screen, after waiting for a while
when you turn the computer on, press tab the number of times you counted,
enter your password and press enter.  This should get you logged in.

When you're logged in, you can always start JAWS by pressing Windows-key and
type JAWS?? and press enter. ?? is the version of JAWS you want to start 17,
18, etc..


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2017 10:39
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Need Help With Two Jaws Issues

That's what I believe I did last night.

Kind of stumbled upon the solution, but at least it seems to have worked.

Tom Behler


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of David Ferrin
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2017 7:09 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Need Help With Two Jaws Issues

Another method if you are still having the startup problem would be 

Re: [JAWS-Users] windows live mail address book

[David Whitehead]

Hello there;
If you found the contacts import and export under tools, you must have the 
virtual ribbon feature turned on.
The steps I gave are for the ribbon feature turned off.


   Statistics are like a bikini.  What they reveal is suggestive, but what 
they conceal is vital.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Lenny McHugh
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 11:21 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] windows live mail address book

Thank you, It was then under tools.

-Original Message- 
From: David Whitehead
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 10:10 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] windows live mail address book

Hello; give these steps a try; I'm doing this from memory, hope the steps
are accurate.

1, open windows live essentials,

2, now press ctrl+#3 to get into your contacts,

3, press alt-key, you should hear,
Home tab,

4, now use the tab key until you hear something like,
Export dropdown
Press the enter key.
You should land on the comma separated value, CSV file,
Press enter.
Now this should start the export process.
Hope this works.

   Statistics are like a bikini.  What they reveal is suggestive, but
what they conceal is vital.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Lenny McHugh
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 8:33 AM
To: JFW List 
Subject: [JAWS-Users] windows live mail address book

I did not see anywhere where I can back up the address book. I have the
account information and the emails. Wow! did I guess wrong, there is over
1,200 messages that I wanted to save. I have folders for jfw, guide dog,
woodworking, iPhone and the inbox and a special saved stuff folder. There is

over 30 contacts that I also do not want to lose.



---

Please visit my web page

It’s motivational, inspirational with a touch of humor

There is also a very extensive resource list for the blind

http://www.LennyMcHugh.com

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Need Help With Two Jaws Issues

[Becky Buckner]

I am using windows 7 and Alt with control and the letter N will bring up 
Narrator.
- Original Message - 
From: "Adrian Spratt" 

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 12:19 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Need Help With Two Jaws Issues



Tom,

Let's start over. In Windows 7, the simplest or most reliable way to 
invoke Narrator is to press Windows key+r to bring up the "run" dialog, 
then type narrator. Wait a second or two and Narrator starts speaking. To 
close Narrator, tab twice to "Exit." Press spacebar, then alt-y to 
confirm.


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
Behalf Of Tom Behler

Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 11:45 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Need Help With Two Jaws Issues

Jim:

I just tried Windows key plus enter to launch Narrator, but couldn't get 
it to come up.


Perhaps I should clarify that I'm using Windows 7 and Jaws 17 here.

Can you do this with Jaws active?

I tried both with and without Jaws, but had no luck.

What am I doing wrong?

Tom Behler


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
Behalf Of Jim

Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 10:38 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Need Help With Two Jaws Issues

Press Windows key+Enter, yes this is a toggle keystroke, press it once to 
turn Narrator on, press it again to turn narrator off.



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
Behalf Of Tom Behler

Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 10:02 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Need Help With Two Jaws Issues

Hello.

I have conflicting instructions here regarding how to start Windows 
Narrator.


One set of instructions says hit the Windows key plus enter 
simultaneously; this supposedly is a toggle to turn Narrator on and off.


Another set of instructions I have here says to hit the windows key plus 
the letter U. to open the access center;  and then press Alt N to launch 
narrator.


Can someone tell me which of these instructions are accurate?

Thanks as always!

Dr.  Tom Behler from Michigan



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
Behalf Of TheHangMan

Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 8:35 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Need Help With Two Jaws Issues

Tom,
I just press the spacebar once and the password box comes up.
If, nothing happens on start up, I switch to narrator and it gets the job 
done.

Jorge

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
Behalf Of Tom Behler

Sent: Monday, February 27, 2017 9:13 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Need Help With Two Jaws Issues

Thanks, Mike.

I appreciate these additional instructions, and will save for future 
reference, should the problem recur.


Tom Behler


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
Behalf Of Mike O'Brien

Sent: Monday, February 27, 2017 1:43 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Need Help With Two Jaws Issues

Hi

Unfortunately, the items in the start-up folder are only started after the 
user has logged in.  So putting an icon for JAWS in the start-up folder 
will not provide speech on the log-in screen.  Now that JAWS is speaking 
on the log-in screen, , you could do the following to help if you have the 
JAWS starting problem again.


1.  Start the computer and wait until JAWS starts talking on the log-in 
screen.
2.  Press tab until you get to the password for your user id, counting the 
number of times you had to press tab


if JAWS again does not speak on the log-in screen, after waiting for a 
while when you turn the computer on, press tab the number of times you 
counted, enter your password and press enter.  This should get you logged 
in.


When you're logged in, you can always start JAWS by pressing Windows-key 
and type JAWS?? and press enter. ?? is the version of JAWS you want to 
start 17, 18, etc..



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
Behalf Of Tom Behler

Sent: Monday, February 27, 2017 10:39
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Need Help With Two Jaws Issues

That's what I believe I did last night.

Kind of stumbled upon the solution, but at least it seems to have worked.

Tom Behler


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
Behalf Of David Ferrin

Sent: Monday, February 27, 2017 7:09 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Need Help With Two Jaws Issues

Another method if you are still having the startup problem would be to 

Re: [JAWS-Users] Spotify and Jaws

[Adrian Spratt]

Hi, Jean.

Someone on the PC Audio list you just joined (yes, Big Brother is watching!!) 
recently posted that Spotify works well as an iPhone app but not on a PC. There 
was no follow-up to that thread. But maybe someone here has had a better 
experience. I was interested because I'd like to replace Pandora, which I've 
found difficult to use since Hope, the application designed to make it 
accessible, ceased to be supported. 

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Jean Menzies
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 2:05 PM
To: JawsUsersList
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Spotify and Jaws

Hello everyone, 

We now have Spotify Premium Family Sharing in our house. I have downloaded the 
Windows Desktop Spotify app. It’s usable, but not all that intuative at first 
glance. I have no idea which version this is. Are there scripts or tips and 
tricks for using this with Jaws? I am running Jaws 18, but haven’t applied the 
most recent update. 

Thanks. 

Jean
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[JAWS-Users] Spotify and Jaws

[Jean Menzies]

Hello everyone, 

We now have Spotify Premium Family Sharing in our house. I have downloaded the 
Windows Desktop Spotify app. It’s usable, but not all that intuative at first 
glance. I have no idea which version this is. Are there scripts or tips and 
tricks for using this with Jaws? I am running Jaws 18, but haven’t applied the 
most recent update. 

Thanks. 

Jean
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Re: [JAWS-Users] D Frag

[Dave]

JAWS cursor usually gives information as you move around.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


- Original Message - 
From: "T. Civitello" 
To: "Jaws users list" 
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 10:13
Subject: [JAWS-Users] D Frag


This morning I ran D frag. Is there some way to hear what is happening while 
the program is running and telling when the process is completed? I had a 
friend watch while the program was running and there was a lot going on but 
Jaws said nothing.  Tom
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[JAWS-Users] D Frag

[T. Civitello]

This morning I ran D frag. Is there some way to hear what is happening while 
the program is running and telling when the process is completed? I had a 
friend watch while the program was running and there was a lot going on but 
Jaws said nothing.  Tom
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Need Help With Two Jaws Issues

[Adrian Spratt]

Tom,

Let's start over. In Windows 7, the simplest or most reliable way to invoke 
Narrator is to press Windows key+r to bring up the "run" dialog, then type 
narrator. Wait a second or two and Narrator starts speaking. To close Narrator, 
tab twice to "Exit." Press spacebar, then alt-y to confirm.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Tom Behler
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 11:45 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Need Help With Two Jaws Issues

Jim:

I just tried Windows key plus enter to launch Narrator, but couldn't get it to 
come up.

Perhaps I should clarify that I'm using Windows 7 and Jaws 17 here.

Can you do this with Jaws active?

I tried both with and without Jaws, but had no luck.

What am I doing wrong?

Tom Behler


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Jim
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 10:38 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Need Help With Two Jaws Issues

Press Windows key+Enter, yes this is a toggle keystroke, press it once to turn 
Narrator on, press it again to turn narrator off.


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Tom Behler
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 10:02 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Need Help With Two Jaws Issues

Hello.

I have conflicting instructions here regarding how to start Windows Narrator.

One set of instructions says hit the Windows key plus enter simultaneously; 
this supposedly is a toggle to turn Narrator on and off.

Another set of instructions I have here says to hit the windows key plus the 
letter U. to open the access center;  and then press Alt N to launch narrator.

Can someone tell me which of these instructions are accurate?

Thanks as always!

Dr.  Tom Behler from Michigan



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of TheHangMan
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 8:35 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Need Help With Two Jaws Issues

Tom,
I just press the spacebar once and the password box comes up.
If, nothing happens on start up, I switch to narrator and it gets the job done.
Jorge

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Tom Behler
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2017 9:13 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Need Help With Two Jaws Issues

Thanks, Mike.

I appreciate these additional instructions, and will save for future reference, 
should the problem recur.

Tom Behler


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Mike O'Brien
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2017 1:43 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Need Help With Two Jaws Issues

Hi

Unfortunately, the items in the start-up folder are only started after the user 
has logged in.  So putting an icon for JAWS in the start-up folder will not 
provide speech on the log-in screen.  Now that JAWS is speaking on the log-in 
screen, , you could do the following to help if you have the JAWS starting 
problem again.

1.  Start the computer and wait until JAWS starts talking on the log-in screen.
2.  Press tab until you get to the password for your user id, counting the 
number of times you had to press tab

if JAWS again does not speak on the log-in screen, after waiting for a while 
when you turn the computer on, press tab the number of times you counted, enter 
your password and press enter.  This should get you logged in.

When you're logged in, you can always start JAWS by pressing Windows-key and 
type JAWS?? and press enter. ?? is the version of JAWS you want to start 17, 
18, etc..


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Tom Behler
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2017 10:39
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Need Help With Two Jaws Issues

That's what I believe I did last night.

Kind of stumbled upon the solution, but at least it seems to have worked.

Tom Behler


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of David Ferrin
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2017 7:09 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Need Help With Two Jaws Issues

Another method if you are still having the startup problem would be to take a 
JAWS icon and place it in the startup folder, IE the same place where speak 
drop box and things like that go to fire up on system boot.

-Original Message-
From: Tom Behler
Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2017 10:06 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: 

Re: [JAWS-Users] Need Help With Two Jaws Issues

[andy t]

Hello Tom the key stroke to launch narrator in windows 7 is windows key plus 
the letter u HTH.


-Original Message- 
From: Tom Behler

Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 11:44 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Need Help With Two Jaws Issues

Jim:

I just tried Windows key plus enter to launch Narrator, but couldn't get it
to come up.

Perhaps I should clarify that I'm using Windows 7 and Jaws 17 here.

Can you do this with Jaws active?

I tried both with and without Jaws, but had no luck.

What am I doing wrong?

Tom Behler


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Jim
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 10:38 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Need Help With Two Jaws Issues

Press Windows key+Enter, yes this is a toggle keystroke, press it once to
turn Narrator on, press it again to turn narrator off.


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 10:02 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Need Help With Two Jaws Issues

Hello.

I have conflicting instructions here regarding how to start Windows
Narrator.

One set of instructions says hit the Windows key plus enter simultaneously;
this supposedly is a toggle to turn Narrator on and off.

Another set of instructions I have here says to hit the windows key plus the
letter U. to open the access center;  and then press Alt N to launch
narrator.

Can someone tell me which of these instructions are accurate?

Thanks as always!

Dr.  Tom Behler from Michigan



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of TheHangMan
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 8:35 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Need Help With Two Jaws Issues

Tom,
I just press the spacebar once and the password box comes up.
If, nothing happens on start up, I switch to narrator and it gets the job
done.
Jorge

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2017 9:13 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Need Help With Two Jaws Issues

Thanks, Mike.

I appreciate these additional instructions, and will save for future
reference, should the problem recur.

Tom Behler


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mike O'Brien
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2017 1:43 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Need Help With Two Jaws Issues

Hi

Unfortunately, the items in the start-up folder are only started after the
user has logged in.  So putting an icon for JAWS in the start-up folder will
not provide speech on the log-in screen.  Now that JAWS is speaking on the
log-in screen, , you could do the following to help if you have the JAWS
starting problem again.

1.  Start the computer and wait until JAWS starts talking on the log-in
screen.
2.  Press tab until you get to the password for your user id, counting the
number of times you had to press tab

if JAWS again does not speak on the log-in screen, after waiting for a while
when you turn the computer on, press tab the number of times you counted,
enter your password and press enter.  This should get you logged in.

When you're logged in, you can always start JAWS by pressing Windows-key and
type JAWS?? and press enter. ?? is the version of JAWS you want to start 17,
18, etc..


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2017 10:39
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Need Help With Two Jaws Issues

That's what I believe I did last night.

Kind of stumbled upon the solution, but at least it seems to have worked.

Tom Behler


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of David Ferrin
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2017 7:09 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Need Help With Two Jaws Issues

Another method if you are still having the startup problem would be to take
a JAWS icon and place it in the startup folder, IE the same place where
speak drop box and things like that go to fire up on system boot.

-Original Message-
From: Tom Behler
Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2017 10:06 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Need Help With Two Jaws Issues

Mike:

It turns out that, for reasons I can't explain, my computer reverted back to
jaws 16, which I also have on the machine.

Now that I'm back in Jaws 17, Outlook is performing as it should.

I still need to trouble-shoot the log-on screen startup issue, but these
steps you gave me should help.

I'll 

Re: [JAWS-Users] Need Help With Two Jaws Issues

[Adrian Spratt]

Tom,

Your notes need to distinguish which keystrokes apply to which Windows system. 
I believe windows key+enter brings up Narrator only for Windows 10. I know for 
a fact it doesn't work in Windows 7, which I believe is your system, as it's 
also mine. I just tested. Word to the wise: You can always test suggestions 
like this yourself!!

The second way does work in Win7.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Tom Behler
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 10:02 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Need Help With Two Jaws Issues

Hello.

I have conflicting instructions here regarding how to start Windows Narrator.

One set of instructions says hit the Windows key plus enter simultaneously; 
this supposedly is a toggle to turn Narrator on and off.

Another set of instructions I have here says to hit the windows key plus the 
letter U. to open the access center;  and then press Alt N to launch narrator.

Can someone tell me which of these instructions are accurate?

Thanks as always!

Dr.  Tom Behler from Michigan



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of TheHangMan
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 8:35 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Need Help With Two Jaws Issues

Tom,
I just press the spacebar once and the password box comes up.
If, nothing happens on start up, I switch to narrator and it gets the job done.
Jorge

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Tom Behler
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2017 9:13 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Need Help With Two Jaws Issues

Thanks, Mike.

I appreciate these additional instructions, and will save for future reference, 
should the problem recur.

Tom Behler


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Mike O'Brien
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2017 1:43 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Need Help With Two Jaws Issues

Hi

Unfortunately, the items in the start-up folder are only started after the user 
has logged in.  So putting an icon for JAWS in the start-up folder will not 
provide speech on the log-in screen.  Now that JAWS is speaking on the log-in 
screen, , you could do the following to help if you have the JAWS starting 
problem again.

1.  Start the computer and wait until JAWS starts talking on the log-in screen.
2.  Press tab until you get to the password for your user id, counting the 
number of times you had to press tab

if JAWS again does not speak on the log-in screen, after waiting for a while 
when you turn the computer on, press tab the number of times you counted, enter 
your password and press enter.  This should get you logged in.

When you're logged in, you can always start JAWS by pressing Windows-key and 
type JAWS?? and press enter. ?? is the version of JAWS you want to start 17, 
18, etc..


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Tom Behler
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2017 10:39
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Need Help With Two Jaws Issues

That's what I believe I did last night.

Kind of stumbled upon the solution, but at least it seems to have worked.

Tom Behler


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of David Ferrin
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2017 7:09 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Need Help With Two Jaws Issues

Another method if you are still having the startup problem would be to take a 
JAWS icon and place it in the startup folder, IE the same place where speak 
drop box and things like that go to fire up on system boot.

-Original Message-
From: Tom Behler
Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2017 10:06 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Need Help With Two Jaws Issues

Mike:

It turns out that, for reasons I can't explain, my computer reverted back to 
jaws 16, which I also have on the machine.

Now that I'm back in Jaws 17, Outlook is performing as it should.

I still need to trouble-shoot the log-on screen startup issue, but these steps 
you gave me should help.

I'll keep the steps handy, and continue work on the startup screen issue in the 
morning.

Thank you for your quick response.

Tom Behler

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Mike B.
Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2017 9:18 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Need Help With Two Jaws Issues

Hi Tom,

You can try the following for your 1st issue, but I can't help with your 2nd
issue:
Note: The steps below were 

Re: [JAWS-Users] Need Help With Two Jaws Issues

[Tom Behler]

Jim:

I just tried Windows key plus enter to launch Narrator, but couldn't get it
to come up.

Perhaps I should clarify that I'm using Windows 7 and Jaws 17 here.

Can you do this with Jaws active?

I tried both with and without Jaws, but had no luck.

What am I doing wrong?

Tom Behler


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Jim
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 10:38 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Need Help With Two Jaws Issues

Press Windows key+Enter, yes this is a toggle keystroke, press it once to
turn Narrator on, press it again to turn narrator off.


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 10:02 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Need Help With Two Jaws Issues

Hello.

I have conflicting instructions here regarding how to start Windows
Narrator.

One set of instructions says hit the Windows key plus enter simultaneously;
this supposedly is a toggle to turn Narrator on and off.

Another set of instructions I have here says to hit the windows key plus the
letter U. to open the access center;  and then press Alt N to launch
narrator.

Can someone tell me which of these instructions are accurate?

Thanks as always!

Dr.  Tom Behler from Michigan



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of TheHangMan
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 8:35 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Need Help With Two Jaws Issues

Tom,
I just press the spacebar once and the password box comes up.
If, nothing happens on start up, I switch to narrator and it gets the job
done.
Jorge

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2017 9:13 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Need Help With Two Jaws Issues

Thanks, Mike.

I appreciate these additional instructions, and will save for future
reference, should the problem recur.

Tom Behler


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mike O'Brien
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2017 1:43 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Need Help With Two Jaws Issues

Hi

Unfortunately, the items in the start-up folder are only started after the
user has logged in.  So putting an icon for JAWS in the start-up folder will
not provide speech on the log-in screen.  Now that JAWS is speaking on the
log-in screen, , you could do the following to help if you have the JAWS
starting problem again.

1.  Start the computer and wait until JAWS starts talking on the log-in
screen.
2.  Press tab until you get to the password for your user id, counting the
number of times you had to press tab

if JAWS again does not speak on the log-in screen, after waiting for a while
when you turn the computer on, press tab the number of times you counted,
enter your password and press enter.  This should get you logged in.

When you're logged in, you can always start JAWS by pressing Windows-key and
type JAWS?? and press enter. ?? is the version of JAWS you want to start 17,
18, etc..


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2017 10:39
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Need Help With Two Jaws Issues

That's what I believe I did last night.

Kind of stumbled upon the solution, but at least it seems to have worked.

Tom Behler


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of David Ferrin
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2017 7:09 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Need Help With Two Jaws Issues

Another method if you are still having the startup problem would be to take
a JAWS icon and place it in the startup folder, IE the same place where
speak drop box and things like that go to fire up on system boot.

-Original Message-
From: Tom Behler
Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2017 10:06 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Need Help With Two Jaws Issues

Mike:

It turns out that, for reasons I can't explain, my computer reverted back to
jaws 16, which I also have on the machine.

Now that I'm back in Jaws 17, Outlook is performing as it should.

I still need to trouble-shoot the log-on screen startup issue, but these
steps you gave me should help.

I'll keep the steps handy, and continue work on the startup screen issue in
the morning.

Thank you for your quick response.

Tom Behler

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf 

Re: [JAWS-Users] Need Help With Two Jaws Issues

[Tom Behler]

Thanks, Jim.

Appreciate the confirmation.

Tom Behler


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Jim
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 10:38 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Need Help With Two Jaws Issues

Press Windows key+Enter, yes this is a toggle keystroke, press it once to
turn Narrator on, press it again to turn narrator off.


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 10:02 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Need Help With Two Jaws Issues

Hello.

I have conflicting instructions here regarding how to start Windows
Narrator.

One set of instructions says hit the Windows key plus enter simultaneously;
this supposedly is a toggle to turn Narrator on and off.

Another set of instructions I have here says to hit the windows key plus the
letter U. to open the access center;  and then press Alt N to launch
narrator.

Can someone tell me which of these instructions are accurate?

Thanks as always!

Dr.  Tom Behler from Michigan



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of TheHangMan
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 8:35 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Need Help With Two Jaws Issues

Tom,
I just press the spacebar once and the password box comes up.
If, nothing happens on start up, I switch to narrator and it gets the job
done.
Jorge

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2017 9:13 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Need Help With Two Jaws Issues

Thanks, Mike.

I appreciate these additional instructions, and will save for future
reference, should the problem recur.

Tom Behler


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mike O'Brien
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2017 1:43 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Need Help With Two Jaws Issues

Hi

Unfortunately, the items in the start-up folder are only started after the
user has logged in.  So putting an icon for JAWS in the start-up folder will
not provide speech on the log-in screen.  Now that JAWS is speaking on the
log-in screen, , you could do the following to help if you have the JAWS
starting problem again.

1.  Start the computer and wait until JAWS starts talking on the log-in
screen.
2.  Press tab until you get to the password for your user id, counting the
number of times you had to press tab

if JAWS again does not speak on the log-in screen, after waiting for a while
when you turn the computer on, press tab the number of times you counted,
enter your password and press enter.  This should get you logged in.

When you're logged in, you can always start JAWS by pressing Windows-key and
type JAWS?? and press enter. ?? is the version of JAWS you want to start 17,
18, etc..


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2017 10:39
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Need Help With Two Jaws Issues

That's what I believe I did last night.

Kind of stumbled upon the solution, but at least it seems to have worked.

Tom Behler


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of David Ferrin
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2017 7:09 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Need Help With Two Jaws Issues

Another method if you are still having the startup problem would be to take
a JAWS icon and place it in the startup folder, IE the same place where
speak drop box and things like that go to fire up on system boot.

-Original Message-
From: Tom Behler
Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2017 10:06 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Need Help With Two Jaws Issues

Mike:

It turns out that, for reasons I can't explain, my computer reverted back to
jaws 16, which I also have on the machine.

Now that I'm back in Jaws 17, Outlook is performing as it should.

I still need to trouble-shoot the log-on screen startup issue, but these
steps you gave me should help.

I'll keep the steps handy, and continue work on the startup screen issue in
the morning.

Thank you for your quick response.

Tom Behler

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2017 9:18 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Need Help With Two Jaws Issues

Hi Tom,

You can try the following for your 1st issue, but I can't help with your 2nd

Re: [JAWS-Users] windows live mail address book

[Lenny McHugh]

Thank you, It was then under tools.

-Original Message- 
From: David Whitehead

Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 10:10 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] windows live mail address book

Hello; give these steps a try; I'm doing this from memory, hope the steps
are accurate.

1, open windows live essentials,

2, now press ctrl+#3 to get into your contacts,

3, press alt-key, you should hear,
Home tab,

4, now use the tab key until you hear something like,
Export dropdown
Press the enter key.
You should land on the comma separated value, CSV file,
Press enter.
Now this should start the export process.
Hope this works.

  Statistics are like a bikini.  What they reveal is suggestive, but
what they conceal is vital.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Lenny McHugh
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 8:33 AM
To: JFW List 
Subject: [JAWS-Users] windows live mail address book

I did not see anywhere where I can back up the address book. I have the
account information and the emails. Wow! did I guess wrong, there is over
1,200 messages that I wanted to save. I have folders for jfw, guide dog,
woodworking, iPhone and the inbox and a special saved stuff folder. There is

over 30 contacts that I also do not want to lose.



---

Please visit my web page

It’s motivational, inspirational with a touch of humor

There is also a very extensive resource list for the blind

http://www.LennyMcHugh.com

International Brotherhood of Magicians member #43990
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[JAWS-Users] need a refresher course on how to set up message rules in outlook 2010.

[jimrawls]

Hi all, someone had a good idea on how to do it, and I have lost that email.
Can someone please send it again please? I am running W10 and jaws 18. Jim

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Questions relating to an upgrade from Office 2010 to Office 2016

[Jim]

Hi Maria, I have both Word 2016 and Word 2010 installed on my W-10 computer.
I am not sure about having both word 2013 and word 2016 installed at the
same time, it may be different, not sure. I only have Outlook 2016
installed.






-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Maria Kristic
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 1:03 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Questions relating to an upgrade from Office 2010
to Office 2016

1. Yes, absolutely! I have been using Office 2016 since its release with
JAWS 17 and now 18. VFO/FS has done webinars using Office 2016 as well, so
yes, it is officially supported.
2. Yes, there are differences, but I don't think they will be too difficult
to get used to. I upgraded from 2010 to 2013 to 2016, so I cannot be too
specific because I do not remember much about the 2010 layout. Some items in
the ribbon have been rearranged, and there are times when contextual ribbon
tabs will appear once you have entered or selected areas where they are
relevant (i.e., entering a table or chart, in the Instant Search edit field
in Outlook, etc.) Especially for items I don't use frequently, I like to use
the Tell Me feature found throughout Office 2016 to find items rather than
searching through the ribbon (ALT+Q, type what you are looking for, DOWN
ARROW to and select from the search results). Some ribbon shortcuts have
changed. You will find that there are more instances in which activating a
function causes a pane to open rather than a dialog; if it seems like
nothing happened after you activate something, F6/SHIFT+F6 around to see if
a relevant pane has opened. There are new features (new chart types in
Excel, the Resume Reading feature in Word which will return you to your last
place if you activate the Resume Reading button within the few seconds that
it appears upon opening the document, Outlook Attach a File option initially
displays recent files you worked on, tighter integration with online
services, etc.)   
3. I really cannot say for sure on this one because of my upgrade path...I
believe I was asked to uninstall my previous version of Office before
installing the new one...

Good luck!

Regards,
Maria


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2017 5:30 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Questions relating to an upgrade from Office 2010 to
Office 2016

Hi. Jim's posts this afternoon have me hankering to upgrade to 2016. I'm
really hoping, though, that the upgrade will eliminate an annoying problem
FS, this list and I have been unable to solve concerning the clipboard
interfering with JAWS in Outlook. So, my questions:

Does anyone know if FS/VFO has announced they officially support Office 2016
now? The recent JAWS 18 upgrade notes suggests they do. I also have a call
into FS about this.

Second, are there big differences between 2010 and 2016, especially in the
ribbon? (I don't use the JAWS virtual ribbon.)

Third, when I upgrade, will my 2010 settings be retained? How about my JAWS
settings for Office?

As you might guess, I'm hoping for the least possible time-consuming
transition.
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Need Help With Two Jaws Issues

[Jim]

Press Windows key+Enter, yes this is a toggle keystroke, press it once to
turn Narrator on, press it again to turn narrator off.


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 10:02 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Need Help With Two Jaws Issues

Hello.

I have conflicting instructions here regarding how to start Windows
Narrator.

One set of instructions says hit the Windows key plus enter simultaneously;
this supposedly is a toggle to turn Narrator on and off.

Another set of instructions I have here says to hit the windows key plus the
letter U. to open the access center;  and then press Alt N to launch
narrator.

Can someone tell me which of these instructions are accurate?

Thanks as always!

Dr.  Tom Behler from Michigan



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of TheHangMan
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 8:35 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Need Help With Two Jaws Issues

Tom,
I just press the spacebar once and the password box comes up.
If, nothing happens on start up, I switch to narrator and it gets the job
done.
Jorge

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2017 9:13 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Need Help With Two Jaws Issues

Thanks, Mike.

I appreciate these additional instructions, and will save for future
reference, should the problem recur.

Tom Behler


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mike O'Brien
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2017 1:43 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Need Help With Two Jaws Issues

Hi

Unfortunately, the items in the start-up folder are only started after the
user has logged in.  So putting an icon for JAWS in the start-up folder will
not provide speech on the log-in screen.  Now that JAWS is speaking on the
log-in screen, , you could do the following to help if you have the JAWS
starting problem again.

1.  Start the computer and wait until JAWS starts talking on the log-in
screen.
2.  Press tab until you get to the password for your user id, counting the
number of times you had to press tab

if JAWS again does not speak on the log-in screen, after waiting for a while
when you turn the computer on, press tab the number of times you counted,
enter your password and press enter.  This should get you logged in.

When you're logged in, you can always start JAWS by pressing Windows-key and
type JAWS?? and press enter. ?? is the version of JAWS you want to start 17,
18, etc..


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2017 10:39
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Need Help With Two Jaws Issues

That's what I believe I did last night.

Kind of stumbled upon the solution, but at least it seems to have worked.

Tom Behler


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of David Ferrin
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2017 7:09 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Need Help With Two Jaws Issues

Another method if you are still having the startup problem would be to take
a JAWS icon and place it in the startup folder, IE the same place where
speak drop box and things like that go to fire up on system boot.

-Original Message-
From: Tom Behler
Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2017 10:06 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Need Help With Two Jaws Issues

Mike:

It turns out that, for reasons I can't explain, my computer reverted back to
jaws 16, which I also have on the machine.

Now that I'm back in Jaws 17, Outlook is performing as it should.

I still need to trouble-shoot the log-on screen startup issue, but these
steps you gave me should help.

I'll keep the steps handy, and continue work on the startup screen issue in
the morning.

Thank you for your quick response.

Tom Behler

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2017 9:18 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Need Help With Two Jaws Issues

Hi Tom,

You can try the following for your 1st issue, but I can't help with your 2nd
issue:
Note: The steps below were performed running Windows 7 & JAWS versions 15
thru 18.  These steps won't work with Windows 8 or 10, & why they won't is
below my steps.
For those of you that have Jaws set to start at the Windows log-in screen,
but it doesn't, this might work for you.  I looked in, 

Re: [JAWS-Users] windows live mail address book

[David Whitehead]

Hello; give these steps a try; I'm doing this from memory, hope the steps
are accurate.

1, open windows live essentials,

2, now press ctrl+#3 to get into your contacts,

3, press alt-key, you should hear,
Home tab,

4, now use the tab key until you hear something like,
Export dropdown
Press the enter key.
You should land on the comma separated value, CSV file,
Press enter.
Now this should start the export process.
Hope this works.
 
       Statistics are like a bikini.  What they reveal is suggestive, but
what they conceal is vital.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Lenny McHugh
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 8:33 AM
To: JFW List 
Subject: [JAWS-Users] windows live mail address book

I did not see anywhere where I can back up the address book. I have the 
account information and the emails. Wow! did I guess wrong, there is over 
1,200 messages that I wanted to save. I have folders for jfw, guide dog, 
woodworking, iPhone and the inbox and a special saved stuff folder. There is

over 30 contacts that I also do not want to lose.



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Re: [JAWS-Users] Need Help With Two Jaws Issues

[Tom Behler]

Hello.

I have conflicting instructions here regarding how to start Windows
Narrator.

One set of instructions says hit the Windows key plus enter simultaneously;
this supposedly is a toggle to turn Narrator on and off.

Another set of instructions I have here says to hit the windows key plus the
letter U. to open the access center;  and then press Alt N to launch
narrator.

Can someone tell me which of these instructions are accurate?

Thanks as always!

Dr.  Tom Behler from Michigan



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of TheHangMan
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 8:35 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Need Help With Two Jaws Issues

Tom,
I just press the spacebar once and the password box comes up.
If, nothing happens on start up, I switch to narrator and it gets the job
done.
Jorge

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2017 9:13 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Need Help With Two Jaws Issues

Thanks, Mike.

I appreciate these additional instructions, and will save for future
reference, should the problem recur.

Tom Behler


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mike O'Brien
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2017 1:43 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Need Help With Two Jaws Issues

Hi

Unfortunately, the items in the start-up folder are only started after the
user has logged in.  So putting an icon for JAWS in the start-up folder will
not provide speech on the log-in screen.  Now that JAWS is speaking on the
log-in screen, , you could do the following to help if you have the JAWS
starting problem again.

1.  Start the computer and wait until JAWS starts talking on the log-in
screen.
2.  Press tab until you get to the password for your user id, counting the
number of times you had to press tab

if JAWS again does not speak on the log-in screen, after waiting for a while
when you turn the computer on, press tab the number of times you counted,
enter your password and press enter.  This should get you logged in.

When you're logged in, you can always start JAWS by pressing Windows-key and
type JAWS?? and press enter. ?? is the version of JAWS you want to start 17,
18, etc..


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2017 10:39
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Need Help With Two Jaws Issues

That's what I believe I did last night.

Kind of stumbled upon the solution, but at least it seems to have worked.

Tom Behler


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of David Ferrin
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2017 7:09 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Need Help With Two Jaws Issues

Another method if you are still having the startup problem would be to take
a JAWS icon and place it in the startup folder, IE the same place where
speak drop box and things like that go to fire up on system boot.

-Original Message-
From: Tom Behler
Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2017 10:06 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Need Help With Two Jaws Issues

Mike:

It turns out that, for reasons I can't explain, my computer reverted back to
jaws 16, which I also have on the machine.

Now that I'm back in Jaws 17, Outlook is performing as it should.

I still need to trouble-shoot the log-on screen startup issue, but these
steps you gave me should help.

I'll keep the steps handy, and continue work on the startup screen issue in
the morning.

Thank you for your quick response.

Tom Behler

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2017 9:18 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Need Help With Two Jaws Issues

Hi Tom,

You can try the following for your 1st issue, but I can't help with your 2nd
issue:
Note: The steps below were performed running Windows 7 & JAWS versions 15
thru 18.  These steps won't work with Windows 8 or 10, & why they won't is
below my steps.
For those of you that have Jaws set to start at the Windows log-in screen,
but it doesn't, this might work for you.  I looked in, msconfig, & found
that JAWS Freedom Scientific wasn't at the top of the list on the Start-up
Page / Tab, so this is what I did.
1. Press, Windows key + R, to open the run dialog.
2. Type, *msconfig*, without the stars, & press enter.
3. Press, control + tab, until you get to the, Start-up Page / Tab.
4. I arrowed down the list, & unchecked any items above, JAWS Freedom
Scientific, on the 

[JAWS-Users] windows live mail address book

[Lenny McHugh]

I did not see anywhere where I can back up the address book. I have the 
account information and the emails. Wow! did I guess wrong, there is over 
1,200 messages that I wanted to save. I have folders for jfw, guide dog, 
woodworking, iPhone and the inbox and a special saved stuff folder. There is 
over 30 contacts that I also do not want to lose.



---

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It’s motivational, inspirational with a touch of humor

There is also a very extensive resource list for the blind

http://www.LennyMcHugh.com

International Brotherhood of Magicians member #43990
For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/

Re: [JAWS-Users] Need Help With Two Jaws Issues

[TheHangMan]

Tom,
I just press the spacebar once and the password box comes up.
If, nothing happens on start up, I switch to narrator and it gets the job
done.
Jorge

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2017 9:13 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Need Help With Two Jaws Issues

Thanks, Mike.

I appreciate these additional instructions, and will save for future
reference, should the problem recur.

Tom Behler


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mike O'Brien
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2017 1:43 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Need Help With Two Jaws Issues

Hi

Unfortunately, the items in the start-up folder are only started after the
user has logged in.  So putting an icon for JAWS in the start-up folder will
not provide speech on the log-in screen.  Now that JAWS is speaking on the
log-in screen, , you could do the following to help if you have the JAWS
starting problem again.

1.  Start the computer and wait until JAWS starts talking on the log-in
screen.
2.  Press tab until you get to the password for your user id, counting the
number of times you had to press tab

if JAWS again does not speak on the log-in screen, after waiting for a while
when you turn the computer on, press tab the number of times you counted,
enter your password and press enter.  This should get you logged in.

When you're logged in, you can always start JAWS by pressing Windows-key and
type JAWS?? and press enter. ?? is the version of JAWS you want to start 17,
18, etc..


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2017 10:39
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Need Help With Two Jaws Issues

That's what I believe I did last night.

Kind of stumbled upon the solution, but at least it seems to have worked.

Tom Behler


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of David Ferrin
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2017 7:09 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Need Help With Two Jaws Issues

Another method if you are still having the startup problem would be to take
a JAWS icon and place it in the startup folder, IE the same place where
speak drop box and things like that go to fire up on system boot.

-Original Message-
From: Tom Behler
Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2017 10:06 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Need Help With Two Jaws Issues

Mike:

It turns out that, for reasons I can't explain, my computer reverted back to
jaws 16, which I also have on the machine.

Now that I'm back in Jaws 17, Outlook is performing as it should.

I still need to trouble-shoot the log-on screen startup issue, but these
steps you gave me should help.

I'll keep the steps handy, and continue work on the startup screen issue in
the morning.

Thank you for your quick response.

Tom Behler

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2017 9:18 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Need Help With Two Jaws Issues

Hi Tom,

You can try the following for your 1st issue, but I can't help with your 2nd
issue:
Note: The steps below were performed running Windows 7 & JAWS versions 15
thru 18.  These steps won't work with Windows 8 or 10, & why they won't is
below my steps.
For those of you that have Jaws set to start at the Windows log-in screen,
but it doesn't, this might work for you.  I looked in, msconfig, & found
that JAWS Freedom Scientific wasn't at the top of the list on the Start-up
Page / Tab, so this is what I did.
1. Press, Windows key + R, to open the run dialog.
2. Type, *msconfig*, without the stars, & press enter.
3. Press, control + tab, until you get to the, Start-up Page / Tab.
4. I arrowed down the list, & unchecked any items above, JAWS Freedom
Scientific, on the Start-up Page / Tab.
Note: Only uncheck the items / programs above JAWS Freedom Scientific, &
nothing else.  Pay close attention to what you uncheck because you are going
to recheck these items / programs shortly.
5. Tab to the, Okay, button, press the spacebar, & tab 1 time to, Restart, &
press enter to restart your computer.
6. Once your computer is booted up repeat steps 1 thru 3, & you will notice
that JAWS Freedom Scientific is now at the top of the list.
7. Now, arrow down the list of items / programs on the Start-up Page / Tab,
check the items / programs that you unchecked previously, & repeat step #5.
Now Jaws should start on the Windows log-in screen when your computer
starts.  I did the above steps on 4 different computers, both 

Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS/Windows Inquiry

[TheHangMan]

Jerry,
You can also use alt escape to cycle around,
Or try control alt + tab and left or right arrow,
Jorge

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of jyandt.mar...@comcast.net
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 7:47 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS/Windows Inquiry

No, I keep the ALT key pressed as I cycle through the open programs. And
like you, it is a curiosity. Thanks.

-Original Message-
From: Mauricio Molina
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2017 8:02 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS/Windows Inquiry

Hi Jerry,

While performing the "Alt+Tab keystroke, are you holding the Alt key down
while tabbing through all open windows? If you press Alt+Tab and then just
let go, the default is to cycle between the last 2 windows accessed; you
must continue to hold down the Alt key while pressing the Tab key and only
when the desired application has focus do you let go of the Alt key. If you
have been using this keystroke as described above, I would be curious as to
the cause of the problem.

Mauricio


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of jyandt.mar...@comcast.net
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2017 1:58 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] JAWS/Windows Inquiry

To All JAWS Users:

This is Jerry Martin. I have a question; and I apologize as the explanation
is quite lengthy.

I do not know if this is a JAWS issue or a Windows issue. I am using JAWS v
17, with Windows 10 on a Dell laptop. I can have several documents, JAWS and
my email program open at the same time. However, for the past several days,
when I use the alt tab commands, I have noticed it will only toggle between
JAWS and the most recent application i.e., JAWS and Windows Live mail. Only
after I close the application besides JAWS, will it bring up another
application/document. Any thoughts or answers? Thanks.

Jerry
Jerry
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Questions relating to an upgrade from Office 2010 to Office 2016

[Adrian Spratt]

Maria, this is an incredibly helpful answer. Thank you for taking the time and 
making the effort.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Maria Kristic
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 1:03 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Questions relating to an upgrade from Office 2010 to 
Office 2016

1. Yes, absolutely! I have been using Office 2016 since its release with JAWS 
17 and now 18. VFO/FS has done webinars using Office 2016 as well, so yes, it 
is officially supported.
2. Yes, there are differences, but I don't think they will be too difficult to 
get used to. I upgraded from 2010 to 2013 to 2016, so I cannot be too specific 
because I do not remember much about the 2010 layout. Some items in the ribbon 
have been rearranged, and there are times when contextual ribbon tabs will 
appear once you have entered or selected areas where they are relevant (i.e., 
entering a table or chart, in the Instant Search edit field in Outlook, etc.) 
Especially for items I don't use frequently, I like to use the Tell Me feature 
found throughout Office 2016 to find items rather than searching through the 
ribbon (ALT+Q, type what you are looking for, DOWN ARROW to and select from the 
search results). Some ribbon shortcuts have changed. You will find that there 
are more instances in which activating a function causes a pane to open rather 
than a dialog; if it seems like nothing happened after you activate something, 
F6/SHIFT+F6 around to see if a relevant pane has opened. T
 here are new features (new chart types in Excel, the Resume Reading feature in 
Word which will return you to your last place if you activate the Resume 
Reading button within the few seconds that it appears upon opening the 
document, Outlook Attach a File option initially displays recent files you 
worked on, tighter integration with online
services, etc.)   
3. I really cannot say for sure on this one because of my upgrade path...I 
believe I was asked to uninstall my previous version of Office before 
installing the new one...

Good luck!

Regards,
Maria


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2017 5:30 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Questions relating to an upgrade from Office 2010 to 
Office 2016

Hi. Jim's posts this afternoon have me hankering to upgrade to 2016. I'm really 
hoping, though, that the upgrade will eliminate an annoying problem FS, this 
list and I have been unable to solve concerning the clipboard interfering with 
JAWS in Outlook. So, my questions:

Does anyone know if FS/VFO has announced they officially support Office 2016 
now? The recent JAWS 18 upgrade notes suggests they do. I also have a call into 
FS about this.

Second, are there big differences between 2010 and 2016, especially in the 
ribbon? (I don't use the JAWS virtual ribbon.)

Third, when I upgrade, will my 2010 settings be retained? How about my JAWS 
settings for Office?

As you might guess, I'm hoping for the least possible time-consuming transition.
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Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS/Windows Inquiry

[jyandt.martin]

No, I keep the ALT key pressed as I cycle through the open programs. And 
like you, it is a curiosity. Thanks.


-Original Message- 
From: Mauricio Molina

Sent: Monday, February 27, 2017 8:02 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS/Windows Inquiry

Hi Jerry,

While performing the "Alt+Tab keystroke, are you holding the Alt key down
while tabbing through all open windows? If you press Alt+Tab and then just
let go, the default is to cycle between the last 2 windows accessed; you
must continue to hold down the Alt key while pressing the Tab key and only
when the desired application has focus do you let go of the Alt key. If you
have been using this keystroke as described above, I would be curious as to
the cause of the problem.

Mauricio


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of jyandt.mar...@comcast.net
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2017 1:58 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] JAWS/Windows Inquiry

To All JAWS Users:

This is Jerry Martin. I have a question; and I apologize as the explanation
is quite lengthy.

I do not know if this is a JAWS issue or a Windows issue. I am using JAWS v
17, with Windows 10 on a Dell laptop. I can have several documents, JAWS and
my email program open at the same time. However, for the past several days,
when I use the alt tab commands, I have noticed it will only toggle between
JAWS and the most recent application i.e., JAWS and Windows Live mail. Only
after I close the application besides JAWS, will it bring up another
application/document. Any thoughts or answers? Thanks.

Jerry
Jerry
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Re: [JAWS-Users] windows live essentials 2012

[Lenny McHugh]

found it this morning thanks

-Original Message- 
From: David Ferrin

Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 6:26 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] windows live essentials 2012

I'll of course double check.

-Original Message- 
From: Lenny McHugh

Sent: Monday, February 27, 2017 8:55 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] windows live essentials 2012

I was there but only saw 2009. This thing keeps hanging up. I can only read
a few things before I must restart. Guess that is how I missed it.

-Original Message- 
From: David Ferrin

Sent: Monday, February 27, 2017 8:01 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] windows live essentials 2012

Look on the server my good man. Both 2009 and 2012 are up there for
downloading if memory serves. Also gang I would like to add that our own Mr.
Justice is putting in some work on iTunes, so much so that I have created an
iTunes heading on tips and tricks.

-Original Message- 
From: Lenny McHugh

Sent: Monday, February 27, 2017 7:41 PM
To: JFW List
Subject: [JAWS-Users] windows live essentials 2012

I have been using windows live mail from the essential 2012 download. I no
longer have that file and microsoft has removed it. It looks like I will be
reinstalling windows. I have my email messages and settings exported to the
live mail format. Any ideas where I can locate the 2012 version or what
email client can I use on this win 7 machine. I really hate the thought of
loosing over 200 saved emails from several groups.


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Re: [JAWS-Users] windows live essentials 2012

[David Ferrin]

The last two links at the bottom of the programs page.

-Original Message- 
From: David Ferrin

Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 6:26 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] windows live essentials 2012

I'll of course double check.

-Original Message- 
From: Lenny McHugh

Sent: Monday, February 27, 2017 8:55 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] windows live essentials 2012

I was there but only saw 2009. This thing keeps hanging up. I can only read
a few things before I must restart. Guess that is how I missed it.

-Original Message- 
From: David Ferrin

Sent: Monday, February 27, 2017 8:01 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] windows live essentials 2012

Look on the server my good man. Both 2009 and 2012 are up there for
downloading if memory serves. Also gang I would like to add that our own Mr.
Justice is putting in some work on iTunes, so much so that I have created an
iTunes heading on tips and tricks.

-Original Message- 
From: Lenny McHugh

Sent: Monday, February 27, 2017 7:41 PM
To: JFW List
Subject: [JAWS-Users] windows live essentials 2012

I have been using windows live mail from the essential 2012 download. I no
longer have that file and microsoft has removed it. It looks like I will be
reinstalling windows. I have my email messages and settings exported to the
live mail format. Any ideas where I can locate the 2012 version or what
email client can I use on this win 7 machine. I really hate the thought of
loosing over 200 saved emails from several groups.


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Questions relating to an upgrade from Office 2010 to Office 2016

[Maria Kristic]

1. Yes, absolutely! I have been using Office 2016 since its release with
JAWS 17 and now 18. VFO/FS has done webinars using Office 2016 as well, so
yes, it is officially supported.
2. Yes, there are differences, but I don't think they will be too difficult
to get used to. I upgraded from 2010 to 2013 to 2016, so I cannot be too
specific because I do not remember much about the 2010 layout. Some items in
the ribbon have been rearranged, and there are times when contextual ribbon
tabs will appear once you have entered or selected areas where they are
relevant (i.e., entering a table or chart, in the Instant Search edit field
in Outlook, etc.) Especially for items I don't use frequently, I like to use
the Tell Me feature found throughout Office 2016 to find items rather than
searching through the ribbon (ALT+Q, type what you are looking for, DOWN
ARROW to and select from the search results). Some ribbon shortcuts have
changed. You will find that there are more instances in which activating a
function causes a pane to open rather than a dialog; if it seems like
nothing happened after you activate something, F6/SHIFT+F6 around to see if
a relevant pane has opened. There are new features (new chart types in
Excel, the Resume Reading feature in Word which will return you to your last
place if you activate the Resume Reading button within the few seconds that
it appears upon opening the document, Outlook Attach a File option initially
displays recent files you worked on, tighter integration with online
services, etc.)   
3. I really cannot say for sure on this one because of my upgrade path...I
believe I was asked to uninstall my previous version of Office before
installing the new one...

Good luck!

Regards,
Maria


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2017 5:30 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Questions relating to an upgrade from Office 2010 to
Office 2016

Hi. Jim's posts this afternoon have me hankering to upgrade to 2016. I'm
really hoping, though, that the upgrade will eliminate an annoying problem
FS, this list and I have been unable to solve concerning the clipboard
interfering with JAWS in Outlook. So, my questions:

Does anyone know if FS/VFO has announced they officially support Office 2016
now? The recent JAWS 18 upgrade notes suggests they do. I also have a call
into FS about this.

Second, are there big differences between 2010 and 2016, especially in the
ribbon? (I don't use the JAWS virtual ribbon.)

Third, when I upgrade, will my 2010 settings be retained? How about my JAWS
settings for Office?

As you might guess, I'm hoping for the least possible time-consuming
transition.
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Re: [JAWS-Users] windows live essentials 2012

[David Ferrin]

I'll of course double check.

-Original Message- 
From: Lenny McHugh

Sent: Monday, February 27, 2017 8:55 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] windows live essentials 2012

I was there but only saw 2009. This thing keeps hanging up. I can only read
a few things before I must restart. Guess that is how I missed it.

-Original Message- 
From: David Ferrin

Sent: Monday, February 27, 2017 8:01 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] windows live essentials 2012

Look on the server my good man. Both 2009 and 2012 are up there for
downloading if memory serves. Also gang I would like to add that our own Mr.
Justice is putting in some work on iTunes, so much so that I have created an
iTunes heading on tips and tricks.

-Original Message- 
From: Lenny McHugh

Sent: Monday, February 27, 2017 7:41 PM
To: JFW List
Subject: [JAWS-Users] windows live essentials 2012

I have been using windows live mail from the essential 2012 download. I no
longer have that file and microsoft has removed it. It looks like I will be
reinstalling windows. I have my email messages and settings exported to the
live mail format. Any ideas where I can locate the 2012 version or what
email client can I use on this win 7 machine. I really hate the thought of
loosing over 200 saved emails from several groups.


---

Please visit my web page

It’s motivational, inspirational with a touch of humor

There is also a very extensive resource list for the blind

http://www.LennyMcHugh.com

International Brotherhood of Magicians member #43990
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