Re: [JAWS-Users] opening up an email
Jim, sorry to hear that you're not happy. But that's just the way it is, and stamping your foot does not make the problem disappear. Life is tough, move on. Dave Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer - Original Message - From: "Jim Fettgather" To: Sent: Friday, June 02, 2017 21:44 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] opening up an email This is what I need to do, hit control home and then Jaws down arrow. Why is this, this is not acceptable. This behavior does not happen in Windows 10 mail, messages are read in their entirety when opening an email. Work arouns like control home and then doing a say all such as must be done in outlook are a productivity killer and should not be tolerated. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Kurt Miller Sent: Friday, June 2, 2017 11:08 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] opening up an email Patty, When it opens, use control home to go to the top of the email and then use say all. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of patti Sent: Friday, June 2, 2017 10:34 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] opening up an email I'm sorry, but I don't understand. If when I open up an email, and it starts reading from the middle, how will the read all key help? smiles Patti Patti, Did you receive my respond, I guess you couldn't read it, how about the read all command, TC, Jorge -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of patti Sent: Friday, June 02, 2017 8:03 PM To: jaws Subject: [JAWS-Users] opening up an email Hey Gang, I haven't heard anything, so I thought I would try it again, smiles. Every time I open up an email it starts reading in the middle, or sometimes at the bottom. How do I get it to read at the top? I'm using windows10, jaws18, MS2010, and outlook, on a 32 bit computer. Thanks Patti --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ --- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. http://www.avg.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] opening up an email
This is what I need to do, hit control home and then Jaws down arrow. Why is this, this is not acceptable. This behavior does not happen in Windows 10 mail, messages are read in their entirety when opening an email. Work arouns like control home and then doing a say all such as must be done in outlook are a productivity killer and should not be tolerated. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Kurt Miller Sent: Friday, June 2, 2017 11:08 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] opening up an email Patty, When it opens, use control home to go to the top of the email and then use say all. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of patti Sent: Friday, June 2, 2017 10:34 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] opening up an email I'm sorry, but I don't understand. If when I open up an email, and it starts reading from the middle, how will the read all key help? smiles Patti Patti, Did you receive my respond, I guess you couldn't read it, how about the read all command, TC, Jorge -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of patti Sent: Friday, June 02, 2017 8:03 PM To: jaws Subject: [JAWS-Users] opening up an email Hey Gang, I haven't heard anything, so I thought I would try it again, smiles. Every time I open up an email it starts reading in the middle, or sometimes at the bottom. How do I get it to read at the top? I'm using windows10, jaws18, MS2010, and outlook, on a 32 bit computer. Thanks Patti --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ --- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. http://www.avg.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] opening up an email
Patty, When it opens, use control home to go to the top of the email and then use say all. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of patti Sent: Friday, June 2, 2017 10:34 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] opening up an email I'm sorry, but I don't understand. If when I open up an email, and it starts reading from the middle, how will the read all key help? smiles Patti Patti, Did you receive my respond, I guess you couldn't read it, how about the read all command, TC, Jorge -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of patti Sent: Friday, June 02, 2017 8:03 PM To: jaws Subject: [JAWS-Users] opening up an email Hey Gang, I haven't heard anything, so I thought I would try it again, smiles. Every time I open up an email it starts reading in the middle, or sometimes at the bottom. How do I get it to read at the top? I'm using windows10, jaws18, MS2010, and outlook, on a 32 bit computer. Thanks Patti --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ --- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. http://www.avg.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] opening up an email
Patti, for years now, I've been in the habit of pressing control-home when I open an email message. This does two things. First, it momentarily shuts JAWS up. It also places focus at the top of the message field and JAWS starts speaking from there. An extra keystroke, but it's such a habit that I don't think about it anymore. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of patti Sent: Friday, June 02, 2017 10:34 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] opening up an email I'm sorry, but I don't understand. If when I open up an email, and it starts reading from the middle, how will the read all key help? smiles Patti Patti, Did you receive my respond, I guess you couldn't read it, how about the read all command, TC, Jorge -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of patti Sent: Friday, June 02, 2017 8:03 PM To: jaws Subject: [JAWS-Users] opening up an email Hey Gang, I haven't heard anything, so I thought I would try it again, smiles. Every time I open up an email it starts reading in the middle, or sometimes at the bottom. How do I get it to read at the top? I'm using windows10, jaws18, MS2010, and outlook, on a 32 bit computer. Thanks Patti --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] opening up an email
I'm sorry, but I don't understand. If when I open up an email, and it starts reading from the middle, how will the read all key help? smiles Patti Patti, Did you receive my respond, I guess you couldn't read it, how about the read all command, TC, Jorge -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of patti Sent: Friday, June 02, 2017 8:03 PM To: jaws Subject: [JAWS-Users] opening up an email Hey Gang, I haven't heard anything, so I thought I would try it again, smiles. Every time I open up an email it starts reading in the middle, or sometimes at the bottom. How do I get it to read at the top? I'm using windows10, jaws18, MS2010, and outlook, on a 32 bit computer. Thanks Patti --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] opening up an email
Patti, Did you receive my respond, I guess you couldn't read it, how about the read all command, TC, Jorge -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of patti Sent: Friday, June 02, 2017 8:03 PM To: jaws Subject: [JAWS-Users] opening up an email Hey Gang, I haven't heard anything, so I thought I would try it again, smiles. Every time I open up an email it starts reading in the middle, or sometimes at the bottom. How do I get it to read at the top? I'm using windows10, jaws18, MS2010, and outlook, on a 32 bit computer. Thanks Patti --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
[JAWS-Users] opening up an email
Hey Gang, I haven't heard anything, so I thought I would try it again, smiles. Every time I open up an email it starts reading in the middle, or sometimes at the bottom. How do I get it to read at the top? I'm using windows10, jaws18, MS2010, and outlook, on a 32 bit computer. Thanks Patti --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] How to find a sent attachment
Hi Jerry, is it only on this particular email or all your other emails with attachment? Try saving the file with alt, S A and it will prompt you to save all attachments. If no attachment is there, it will say no attachment to be saved. hth -Original Message- From: jyandt.mar...@comcast.net Sent: Friday, June 02, 2017 2:36 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] How to find a sent attachment No ... that just cycles through the information on the sender, recipient, date and subject information. Thanks anyway. -Original Message- From: Blackwell, Clifford Sent: Friday, June 2, 2017 1:16 PM To: 'jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com' Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] How to find a sent attachment Try moving to the top of the message and then shift tab once. That generally leads me to an attachment in OE or Outlook. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of jyandt.mar...@comcast.net Sent: Friday, June 02, 2017 1:00 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] How to find a sent attachment Afternoon all. Can anyone tell me how to check for an email message that has an attachment in it? I went into my sent folder, and found the message, but I tabbed around in the message, but could not find the attachment in it. Is there some kind of neat trick for doing this? I am using JAWS 17, Windows 10, a dell laptop, and WLM version 2012, build 16 (I finally found that bit of important information). Many thanks in advance. Jerry For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.jaws-2Dusers.com_help_&d=DwICAg&c=byefhD2ZumMFFQYPZBagUCDuBiM9Q9twmxaBM0hCgII&r=E1UNuvfP21oTyT9mJPBpCzJFh2eHc1sN4zjJfvCidM8&m=3AYYNAMjGbB10sUsv5COobths8svcL1CxBR0c59zduA&s=xXRCiJjWgjth2HXkZUzBfc8fuqIs7saPoBXFdIucfJg&e= For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] How to find a sent attachment
I haven't looked at this entire discussion, so maybe the following isn't relevant, but when searching for messages in Microsoft Outlook, you can specify "has:attachment" (without the quotation marks and with no spaces, as shown) to restrict the search to messages that have attachments. Adrian Spratt wrote: > Actually, what Clifford wrote gives you important information. If you > back-tab once and don't hear JAWS verbalize "attachment," it usually means > there is no attachment. That's the case here. For future reference, if the > message field contains links, then you might not automatically land on the > attachment field. > Sometimes what senders call an attachment is actually buried inside the > message field, and it can usually be found by searching for objects with the > quick navigation key letter "o," so long as you have email set to HTML. > > -Original Message- > From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On > Behalf Of jyandt.mar...@comcast.net > Sent: Friday, June 02, 2017 2:36 PM > To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com > Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] How to find a sent attachment > > No ... that just cycles through the information on the sender, recipient, > date and subject information. Thanks anyway. > > -Original Message- > From: Blackwell, Clifford > Sent: Friday, June 2, 2017 1:16 PM > To: 'jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com' > Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] How to find a sent attachment > > Try moving to the top of the message and then shift tab once. That generally > leads me to an attachment in OE or Outlook. > > -Original Message- > From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On > Behalf Of jyandt.mar...@comcast.net > Sent: Friday, June 02, 2017 1:00 PM > To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com > Subject: [JAWS-Users] How to find a sent attachment > > Afternoon all. Can anyone tell me how to check for an email message that has > an attachment in it? I went into my sent folder, and found the message, but I > tabbed around in the message, but could not find the attachment in it. Is > there some kind of neat trick for doing this? I am using JAWS 17, Windows 10, > a dell laptop, and WLM version 2012, build 16 (I finally found that bit of > important information). Many thanks in advance. > Jerry > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.jaws-2Dusers.com_help_&d=DwICAg&c=byefhD2ZumMFFQYPZBagUCDuBiM9Q9twmxaBM0hCgII&r=E1UNuvfP21oTyT9mJPBpCzJFh2eHc1sN4zjJfvCidM8&m=3AYYNAMjGbB10sUsv5COobths8svcL1CxBR0c59zduA&s=xXRCiJjWgjth2HXkZUzBfc8fuqIs7saPoBXFdIucfJg&e= > > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: > http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ > > > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: > http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ > > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: > http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] How to find a sent attachment
Actually, what Clifford wrote gives you important information. If you back-tab once and don't hear JAWS verbalize "attachment," it usually means there is no attachment. That's the case here. For future reference, if the message field contains links, then you might not automatically land on the attachment field. Sometimes what senders call an attachment is actually buried inside the message field, and it can usually be found by searching for objects with the quick navigation key letter "o," so long as you have email set to HTML. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of jyandt.mar...@comcast.net Sent: Friday, June 02, 2017 2:36 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] How to find a sent attachment No ... that just cycles through the information on the sender, recipient, date and subject information. Thanks anyway. -Original Message- From: Blackwell, Clifford Sent: Friday, June 2, 2017 1:16 PM To: 'jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com' Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] How to find a sent attachment Try moving to the top of the message and then shift tab once. That generally leads me to an attachment in OE or Outlook. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of jyandt.mar...@comcast.net Sent: Friday, June 02, 2017 1:00 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] How to find a sent attachment Afternoon all. Can anyone tell me how to check for an email message that has an attachment in it? I went into my sent folder, and found the message, but I tabbed around in the message, but could not find the attachment in it. Is there some kind of neat trick for doing this? I am using JAWS 17, Windows 10, a dell laptop, and WLM version 2012, build 16 (I finally found that bit of important information). Many thanks in advance. Jerry For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.jaws-2Dusers.com_help_&d=DwICAg&c=byefhD2ZumMFFQYPZBagUCDuBiM9Q9twmxaBM0hCgII&r=E1UNuvfP21oTyT9mJPBpCzJFh2eHc1sN4zjJfvCidM8&m=3AYYNAMjGbB10sUsv5COobths8svcL1CxBR0c59zduA&s=xXRCiJjWgjth2HXkZUzBfc8fuqIs7saPoBXFdIucfJg&e= For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] How to find a sent attachment
Hi, If the attachment is up in the header below the subject line and above the body of the message, Shift+Tab will move you there. However, if the attached is embedded in the body of the message, as far as I know, you cannot find it with JAWS. Maybe someone has more up-to-date information on this issue. Annette -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of jyandt.mar...@comcast.net Sent: Friday, June 02, 2017 2:00 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] How to find a sent attachment Afternoon all. Can anyone tell me how to check for an email message that has an attachment in it? I went into my sent folder, and found the message, but I tabbed around in the message, but could not find the attachment in it. Is there some kind of neat trick for doing this? I am using JAWS 17, Windows 10, a dell laptop, and WLM version 2012, build 16 (I finally found that bit of important information). Many thanks in advance. Jerry For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] How to find a sent attachment
Yes Just shift tab when the message is opened and it should be there If not, try shift tab again woo hoo -Original Message- From: Blackwell, Clifford Sent: Friday, June 02, 2017 2:16 PM To: 'jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com' Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] How to find a sent attachment Try moving to the top of the message and then shift tab once. That generally leads me to an attachment in OE or Outlook. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of jyandt.mar...@comcast.net Sent: Friday, June 02, 2017 1:00 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] How to find a sent attachment Afternoon all. Can anyone tell me how to check for an email message that has an attachment in it? I went into my sent folder, and found the message, but I tabbed around in the message, but could not find the attachment in it. Is there some kind of neat trick for doing this? I am using JAWS 17, Windows 10, a dell laptop, and WLM version 2012, build 16 (I finally found that bit of important information). Many thanks in advance. Jerry For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.jaws-2Dusers.com_help_&d=DwICAg&c=byefhD2ZumMFFQYPZBagUCDuBiM9Q9twmxaBM0hCgII&r=E1UNuvfP21oTyT9mJPBpCzJFh2eHc1sN4zjJfvCidM8&m=3AYYNAMjGbB10sUsv5COobths8svcL1CxBR0c59zduA&s=xXRCiJjWgjth2HXkZUzBfc8fuqIs7saPoBXFdIucfJg&e= For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] question regarding email&games;
Afternoon list, There is a plethora of audio only games out there, and all should be easy to access with a screen reader. A starting point would be Audio Games and the link is just below. Games are a great way to get someone using a screen reader. Have fun, Rick http://www.audiogames.net/ -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Subash Sent: Friday, June 2, 2017 1:38 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] question regarding email&games; Hi, there is a program call Fun with typability. While it's a typing teaching program, it also has games. I think it has it's own speach, so JAWS is not required. -Original Message- From: David Whitehead Sent: Friday, June 02, 2017 8:22 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] question regarding email&games; Good morning all; 2 question regarding jaws, and email and games, Firstly, my client would like a simple email client to work with, Also, she would like to have the email sync with her Iphone. Does the outlook express version on the jaws web site work with imap? Secondly, does anyone no of any word game/s one can play using jaws? In advance, thank you. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] please tell Russ Keen that he should not be using this device
Please do not use member names in your subject line! Please refer to the list guidelines, which were just posted to the list yesterday, and can be found by following the link at the bottom of every message. Thank you, Richard Q. Justice-list moderator jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com - Original Message - From: "Joey Lamperis" To: "jaws-users-list" Sent: Friday, June 02, 2017 10:25 AM Subject: [JAWS-Users] please tell Russ Keen that he should not be using this device Hi list, Please tell Russ Keen that the triple talk usb is not supported with Jaws. I don't know why the heck it stopped, but what I do know is the m20 is still listed as a braille device. They did not remove that, but removed support for triple talk usb. Your lister, Joseph Lamperis For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] OverlayWindow0 On Top
Yes it comes and goes, but it seems to have something to do with JAWS, and I think it started at one of the JAWS 18 upgrades. lucky1i...@gmail.com Faithfulness does not begin with large tasks-if it is not present in small things, it does not exist at all. On 6/2/2017 2:50 PM, LeDon wrote: Whell, what do you know, it's back. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of LeDon Sent: Monday, May 29, 2017 12:36 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] OverlayWindow0 On Top I had that overlay thing coming up too. I didn't do a thing and it has stopped coming up. So it's mysterious Ain't it? -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Maria Campbell Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 4:54 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] OverlayWindow0 On Top Well, I unchecked it, so we'll see what happens. lucky1i...@gmail.com Faithfulness does not begin with large tasks-if it is not present in small things, it does not exist at all. On 5/25/2017 1:46 PM, net bat66 wrote: i don't know if this is the same thing. but in the utility/settings menu. in user there is the option to turn on or off a virtual viewer. maybe this is the window overlay you are talking about. -Original Message- From: Jim Flusche Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 10:19 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] OverlayWindow0 On Top Hi Reed, thanks for letting me know. Same here in the Creators update. In this "OverlayWindow0, I tried the Jaws cursor, the touch cursor, but it seems like a phantom window. No way that I see to interact with this window. I will leave this up to the smart computer technicians. After all I am just a pinhead. LOL. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Reed Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 12:17 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] OverlayWindow0 On Top Hello, With Windows Version 10.0.14393, when I hit Insert+F10 to show "window list", I am now seeing this "OverlayWindow0 On Top" that I've never seen before. I have seen it just after boot up, after loading Outlook and at other random times. When I hit Enter to open it and hit Insert+Q twice quickly, it tells me "JAWS for Windows settings are used in the jfw.exe application. The configuration name is JAWS Window. The current scheme is Classic." When I hit Insert+F1, I get "JAWS may not recognize this control. To show JAWS what type of control it is, press Insert+7. To see more technical information on the control, press Control+Insert+F1." When I hit Control+Insert+F1, I get, "Window Technical Information: Control ID 0 Class OverlayWindowClass_F7A740FA-AB45-4F46-BB58-3DCEDB196F1C Handle 983746". So, it shows the Control Id, Class and Handle. Try saying that Class real fast. Bet you can't. When I use Alt+Tab to cycle through my open programs, I don't land on this Overlay Window; even when I've opened it from the window list. Do any of you JAWS experts have an explanation for this Overlay window? Thanks, Reed For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] OverlayWindow0 On Top
Whell, what do you know, it's back. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of LeDon Sent: Monday, May 29, 2017 12:36 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] OverlayWindow0 On Top I had that overlay thing coming up too. I didn't do a thing and it has stopped coming up. So it's mysterious Ain't it? -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Maria Campbell Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 4:54 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] OverlayWindow0 On Top Well, I unchecked it, so we'll see what happens. lucky1i...@gmail.com Faithfulness does not begin with large tasks-if it is not present in small things, it does not exist at all. On 5/25/2017 1:46 PM, net bat66 wrote: > i don't know if this is the same thing. > but in the utility/settings menu. in user there is the option to turn > on or off a virtual viewer. maybe this is the window overlay you are > talking about. > > -Original Message- From: Jim Flusche > Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 10:19 AM > To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com > Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] OverlayWindow0 On Top > > Hi Reed, thanks for letting me know. Same here in the Creators update. > In this "OverlayWindow0, I tried the Jaws cursor, the touch cursor, > but it seems like a phantom window. No way that I see to interact with > this window. I will leave this up to the smart computer technicians. > After all I am just a pinhead. LOL. > > > -Original Message- > From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] > On Behalf Of Reed > Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 12:17 PM > To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com > Subject: [JAWS-Users] OverlayWindow0 On Top > > Hello, > > > > With Windows Version 10.0.14393, when I hit Insert+F10 to show "window > list", I am now seeing this "OverlayWindow0 On Top" that I've never > seen before. > > I have seen it just after boot up, after loading Outlook and at other > random times. > > When I hit Enter to open it and hit Insert+Q twice quickly, it tells > me "JAWS for Windows settings are used in the jfw.exe application. The > configuration name is JAWS Window. The current scheme is Classic." > > > > When I hit Insert+F1, I get "JAWS may not recognize this control. To > show JAWS what type of control it is, press Insert+7. To see more > technical information on the control, press Control+Insert+F1." > > > > When I hit Control+Insert+F1, I get, > > "Window Technical Information: > > Control ID 0 > > Class OverlayWindowClass_F7A740FA-AB45-4F46-BB58-3DCEDB196F1C > > Handle 983746". > > So, it shows the Control Id, Class and Handle. Try saying that Class > real fast. Bet you can't. > > > > When I use Alt+Tab to cycle through my open programs, I don't land on > this Overlay Window; even when I've opened it from the window list. > > > > Do any of you JAWS experts have an explanation for this Overlay window? > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > Reed > > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: > http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ > > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: > http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ > > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: > http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Creators update, The Insert and Escape keys, your best friend part 2
Hi Mr. Mike, yes, even a pinhead forgets to paiste the message in the email. LOL. Read below. Creators update, The Insert and Escape keys, your best friend part 2 This is a text tutorial, provided freely by The W-10 and Jaws group, anyone may freely share this file. Author: Jim Flusche So useing the laptop keyboard layout in Jaws is an advantage, not a drawback. Again for this lesson I will call the capslock key the Jaws key and the numpad insert key, the insert key. For example: using the laptop keyboard layout, For some Jaws keystrokes you must use the Capslock+Shift+Control, plus a key on the keyboard to do them. For Example, in the laptop keyboard layout, If you are running Jaws from the system trey, pressing capslock+Shift+Control+J, Brings up the JAWS options menu window, with the options sub menu highlighted for you. You can also press Numpad Insert+J, in the desktop keyboard layout to bring up the JAWS options menu window. Another example, using the laptop keyboard layout, Pressing Capslock+Shift+Control+H, Places JAWS Hot Keys in the Virtual Viewer. You can review them with the Arrow keys, and press the Escape key to close this window. Using the desktop keyboard layout, pressing the numpad Insert+H, Places JAWS Hot Keys in the Virtual Viewer. In the below lesson I will list the Insert key keystroke, followed by the Laptop keyboard layout Capslock key keystroke. I personally use the Jaws laptop keyboard layout, that way I can choose what keyboard keystroke combonations, works best for using both my hands. So it's very nice to have another Jaws modifier key, to use when pressing Jaws keystrokes involving the pressing of many keys on the keyboard. **Now let us look at how to use Jaws layered keystrokes, Insert+Spacebar, or Capslock+Spacebar, followed by a letter. This means when you press Insert+Spacebar, or Capslock+Spacebar, you will hear a ding sound, you then can press a certain letter or key to open one of the many options for the Jaws layered keystrokes. For example: Pressing Insert+Spacebar, or Capslock+Spacebar, followed by the ? Question mark, you will hear: Search commands press J. Repeat last background notification from Skype press Shift+R. Show recent speech history press H. Clear recent speech history press Shift+H. View text on clipboard press C. Select text between marked place and current position press M. Customize web page with Flexible Web press X. ResearchIt press R. OCR Feature Layer press O. Table Navigation Layer press T. Switch to your recent Windows Live Messages press Number row 1 through 5. Text Analyzer press A. Mute Synthesizer press S. Lock Keyboard press L. Toggle audio ducking press D, still working on this in the Creators update. So let us look at most of these layered keystrokes one at a time. **Pressing either the Numpad Insert+Spacebar, or the Capslock Jaws key+Spacebar, followed by the letter J, opens the search for Jaws commands window. For example, after pressing Insert+Spacebar, or Capslock+Spacebar, followed by J, You are in a Jaws search for commands edit box, type the word copy, press the tab key, you are put in a Jaws HTML page of results. You can use the Arrow keys or H, for heading or Insert+F7, for a Links list, press the Escape key to close this window. Below is an example of what comes up, when you type the word copy in to the Jaws search for commands edit box, and press the Tab key, I have shortened the results. *Copy Selected Text To Clipboard. Control + C Standard Windows copy command, usually found in the Edit menu, any selected text or items will be copied to the Windows Clipboard. The selected items or text can then be pasted into another window or application. *View Clipboard Text. press Insert+Spacebar, or Capslock+Spacebar, followed by the letter C. The Clipboard Text Viewer displays all text that has been copied to the Windows Clipboard using the standard Windows Copy and Cut commands, press escape to close this window. *Virtualize Window. Alt + Insert + W or Capslock+ALT+W. This keystroke displays the text in the current window in the Virtual Viewer. You can then select the text and copy and paste it to another application, such as an e-mail message. This is especially useful in error dialog boxes, press escape to close this window. *Select Text Between Marked Place And Current Position. Insert+Spacebar, or Capslock+Spacebar, followed by the letter M. This command selects text between the temporary Placemarker and current virtual cursor location. You may then use Control+c to copy the selected text to the clipboard. *For example: on a website, press Control+Windows+k, to set a temporary Placemarker at the beginning of the text to be copied. At the end of the text to be copied, press Insert+Spacebar, or Capslock+Spacebar, followed by the letter M, all the text in-between has been selected, press Control+C to copy all the text. *Append Selected Text To Clipboard. Insert + Windows + C or Capslock+Windows+
Re: [JAWS-Users] How to find a sent attachment
No ... that just cycles through the information on the sender, recipient, date and subject information. Thanks anyway. -Original Message- From: Blackwell, Clifford Sent: Friday, June 2, 2017 1:16 PM To: 'jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com' Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] How to find a sent attachment Try moving to the top of the message and then shift tab once. That generally leads me to an attachment in OE or Outlook. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of jyandt.mar...@comcast.net Sent: Friday, June 02, 2017 1:00 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] How to find a sent attachment Afternoon all. Can anyone tell me how to check for an email message that has an attachment in it? I went into my sent folder, and found the message, but I tabbed around in the message, but could not find the attachment in it. Is there some kind of neat trick for doing this? I am using JAWS 17, Windows 10, a dell laptop, and WLM version 2012, build 16 (I finally found that bit of important information). Many thanks in advance. Jerry For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.jaws-2Dusers.com_help_&d=DwICAg&c=byefhD2ZumMFFQYPZBagUCDuBiM9Q9twmxaBM0hCgII&r=E1UNuvfP21oTyT9mJPBpCzJFh2eHc1sN4zjJfvCidM8&m=3AYYNAMjGbB10sUsv5COobths8svcL1CxBR0c59zduA&s=xXRCiJjWgjth2HXkZUzBfc8fuqIs7saPoBXFdIucfJg&e= For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] How to find a sent attachment
Hello try the following; Perhaps the attachments aren't able to be downloaded? 1, open windows live mail, Alt+f=file, Down arrow to options sub-menu, Right arrow to open, Up arrow to safety options, Press enter, Now ctrl+tab until you hear security, Now tab and uncheck the boxes, Warn me when other applications try to send mail as me. Do not allow attachments to be saved or opened that could potentially be a virus. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of jyandt.mar...@comcast.net Sent: Friday, June 2, 2017 2:00 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] How to find a sent attachment Afternoon all. Can anyone tell me how to check for an email message that has an attachment in it? I went into my sent folder, and found the message, but I tabbed around in the message, but could not find the attachment in it. Is there some kind of neat trick for doing this? I am using JAWS 17, Windows 10, a dell laptop, and WLM version 2012, build 16 (I finally found that bit of important information). Many thanks in advance. Jerry For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] How to find a sent attachment
Try moving to the top of the message and then shift tab once. That generally leads me to an attachment in OE or Outlook. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of jyandt.mar...@comcast.net Sent: Friday, June 02, 2017 1:00 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] How to find a sent attachment Afternoon all. Can anyone tell me how to check for an email message that has an attachment in it? I went into my sent folder, and found the message, but I tabbed around in the message, but could not find the attachment in it. Is there some kind of neat trick for doing this? I am using JAWS 17, Windows 10, a dell laptop, and WLM version 2012, build 16 (I finally found that bit of important information). Many thanks in advance. Jerry For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.jaws-2Dusers.com_help_&d=DwICAg&c=byefhD2ZumMFFQYPZBagUCDuBiM9Q9twmxaBM0hCgII&r=E1UNuvfP21oTyT9mJPBpCzJFh2eHc1sN4zjJfvCidM8&m=3AYYNAMjGbB10sUsv5COobths8svcL1CxBR0c59zduA&s=xXRCiJjWgjth2HXkZUzBfc8fuqIs7saPoBXFdIucfJg&e= For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
[JAWS-Users] How to find a sent attachment
Afternoon all. Can anyone tell me how to check for an email message that has an attachment in it? I went into my sent folder, and found the message, but I tabbed around in the message, but could not find the attachment in it. Is there some kind of neat trick for doing this? I am using JAWS 17, Windows 10, a dell laptop, and WLM version 2012, build 16 (I finally found that bit of important information). Many thanks in advance. Jerry For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] getting computer to remember websites
Hi Judy, try opening IE, Alt T for tools O for option Press Shift Control Tab and that will put you on the advance page. Press E until you hear "Enable suggested sites. If it's off, press to turn it on Tab to OK and space. Try that and see if that does it. -Original Message- From: Justin Williams Sent: Friday, June 02, 2017 5:45 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] getting computer to remember websites Did anyone suggest favorites? Justin -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt Sent: Thursday, June 1, 2017 5:42 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] getting computer to remember websites Judy, another lister posted a solution for you. Did you see that one? I'm afraid I didn't save the message. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Judy Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2017 5:34 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] getting computer to remember websites Yes, I thought it was the default behavior as well, but I am talking about sites that I have typed in several times. Judy & Libby -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2017 11:20 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] getting computer to remember websites In my experience, this is the default behavior. So I'm wondering if you went to a website before trying to return. The website address won't fill in until you've gone there at least once. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Judy Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2017 7:34 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] getting computer to remember websites Hi, all, I have gotten a new computer at work. My previous one was set so that when I went to a website, when I would want to go back to it as soon as I started typing it, it filled it in and I just hit enter on it. It has been so long since I set up my home computer I can't remember what to do to get it to do that on my work one. It has Win 7 and IE 11 and Jaws 12. Thanks in advance. Judy & Libby For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] question regarding email&games;
Hi, there is a program call Fun with typability. While it's a typing teaching program, it also has games. I think it has it's own speach, so JAWS is not required. -Original Message- From: David Whitehead Sent: Friday, June 02, 2017 8:22 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] question regarding email&games; Good morning all; 2 question regarding jaws, and email and games, Firstly, my client would like a simple email client to work with, Also, she would like to have the email sync with her Iphone. Does the outlook express version on the jaws web site work with imap? Secondly, does anyone no of any word game/s one can play using jaws? In advance, thank you. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Making Word 2010 default line spaving to single
Hello Mr. Ed, Here are a few things you can try. If these don't work then deleting the Normal.DOTM and restarting your system or doing a repair on Word might be necessary. Method 3 modifies the line spacing for your normal style. Method 1 Using Single Spacing: Use the application key and choose Paragraph from the menu. In the indents and spacing page tab of the Paragraph dialog box make sure the two spin boxes for Before and After are set to 0. Set line spacing to Single. For the "At" edit spin box press backspace until nothing is in the box. The "Don't add space between paragraphs of the same style" checkbox should be checked. At this point use OK and check it out in your document. Go back into the Paragraph dialog box and make sure options are still as you set them. Tab to the Set as Default button and use spacebar. You will get a dialog box in which you can tab to a group of radio buttons. "This document only" will likely be checked so arrow down to "All documents based on the normal.DOTM template. Tab to OK button and press spacebar. Method 2, Set line spacing to "Exactly." In the same control where you choose single or double spacing choose the option for Exactly. In the Before and After controls use 0 points. In the "At" edit spin box 12 points is about right. This is needed for leading. No matter what you set for spacing a certain amount of leading is necessary for the various types of fonts used and the heights necessary for characters of the various types of fonts. Check the "Don't add space between paragraphs of the same style" box. Use the button for saving changes as default. Pick the radio button for changes to be for all templates based on the normal.DOTM template. Use OK as necessary. (This will result in similar line spacing to that used in older versions of Word). Method 3, Modify Style: Use Alt CTRL Shift and S to launch the Styles pane. Use F6 until in the styles pane. Use the Manage Styles button. You will likely find it faster by using Shift tab until you find it rather than tabbing. In the resulting window find the Modify button and use it. In the resulting window use shift tab from the OK button to the Format button and press enter key. Arrow down to Paragraph and press enter key. Change the After control to 0 by using down arrow key. Change line spacing to Single. Make sure nothing is in the "At" control. With focus in the "At" control use backspace to remove any value. Use spacebar to check the "Don't add space between paragraphs of the same style." Use the OK button. Use shift tab to the radio buttons that determine if the change is just for the existing document or all documents. "New documents based on this template" should be selected. Use the OK button. Use shift tab and you will find the same radio buttons so arrow down to "New documents based on this template." Use the OK button. After making any of the above changes it is a good idea to restart Word and maybe even your system. Take care. Brian Lee brianl...@charter.net -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Mr. Ed Sent: June 1, 2017 4:28 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Making Word 2010 default line spaving to single Hi, Did that but it still did not save single line spacing as the default when opening a new word document. Mr. Ed -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Andrew James Bontrager Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2017 10:11 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Making Word 2010 default line spaving to single try changing the paragraph settings while you have the normal.dot template open, then save the file. --- I am, therefore I think. Ande For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Creating "reply" message
Just make sure that you do not include this list in your out of office message as we do not allow that practice. Besides it creates a self fulfilling problem. -Original Message- From: jyandt.mar...@comcast.net Sent: Friday, June 2, 2017 10:39 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] Creating "reply" message Morning all. I was wondering if anyone out there can tell me how to create an “out of office” message for Windows Live Mail. I am using JAWS 17, Windows 10, and a Dell Laptop. I am uncertain as to the version of WLM (sorry about that). Thanks in advance. Jerry For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Creating "reply" message
Dave: Thanks for that. Can you supply me with the specifics? Thanks again. -Original Message- From: Dave ... Sent: Friday, June 2, 2017 10:00 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Creating "reply" message Set up a mail rule to trap all incoming messages and reply with a canned message of your liking. . Dave Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer - Original Message - From: To: Sent: Friday, June 02, 2017 07:39 Subject: [JAWS-Users] Creating "reply" message Morning all. I was wondering if anyone out there can tell me how to create an “out of office” message for Windows Live Mail. I am using JAWS 17, Windows 10, and a Dell Laptop. I am uncertain as to the version of WLM (sorry about that). Thanks in advance. Jerry For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Creating "reply" message
Set up a mail rule to trap all incoming messages and reply with a canned message of your liking. . Dave Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer - Original Message - From: To: Sent: Friday, June 02, 2017 07:39 Subject: [JAWS-Users] Creating "reply" message Morning all. I was wondering if anyone out there can tell me how to create an “out of office” message for Windows Live Mail. I am using JAWS 17, Windows 10, and a Dell Laptop. I am uncertain as to the version of WLM (sorry about that). Thanks in advance. Jerry For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
[JAWS-Users] Creating "reply" message
Morning all. I was wondering if anyone out there can tell me how to create an “out of office” message for Windows Live Mail. I am using JAWS 17, Windows 10, and a Dell Laptop. I am uncertain as to the version of WLM (sorry about that). Thanks in advance. Jerry For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem with original tripletalk usb with jaws
Ah, got it. An obvious question: did you go through the process of having JAWS recognize TripleTalk? On the face of it, you must have, or else it wouldn't be working at all. But I ask anyway. I know how important it is to maintain access to the synth we like. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Russ Kiehne Sent: Friday, June 02, 2017 10:04 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem with original tripletalk usb with jaws I'm a part of the Window-Eyes to JAWS Migration. I just installed the most current version of jaws. I did contact the company and they said they didn't hear of anyone with this issue. They said they would do some testing. -Original Message- From: Adrian Spratt Sent: Friday, June 2, 2017 6:26 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem with original tripletalk usb with jaws None relating to an external synthesizer that I'm aware of. Again, did this problem begin after a JAWS or other update? If not, are you able to contact the manufacturer or sales rep? I don't know if the company is still around. Sadly, the maker of the Dectalk Express has long since disappeared in a maze of mergers. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Russ Kiehne Sent: Friday, June 02, 2017 8:51 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem with original tripletalk usb with jaws Yes, the say all command does work with a software synthesizer. This is why I think it's a tripletalk issue. Does jaws keep any kind of log file I can look at to see what is going on? -Original Message- From: Adrian Spratt Sent: Thursday, June 1, 2017 9:00 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem with original tripletalk usb with jaws I also have an external synthesizer, Dectalk Express, and I doubt Narrator could help me solve the problem if it's with the synth. Do you think it's worth trying "say all" with the internal synthesizer, Eloquence, which I think is loaded by default. You could find it quickly by pressing JAWS key+control+s and down-arrowing through the choices. If you post again, you might indicate if you've updated anything recently, such as JAWS. Also, have you unloaded and reloaded JAWS and/or rebooted in case either of those operations can fix the problem? -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Russ Kiehne Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2017 9:54 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] Problem with original tripletalk usb with jaws I have the original tripletalk usb. What happens is, when I start reading a webpage or html document with the jaws say all command, I lose speech after a short period of time. I can't even start narrator on windows 10 to find out what happened. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
[JAWS-Users] please tell Russ Keen that he should not be using this device
Hi list, Please tell Russ Keen that the triple talk usb is not supported with Jaws. I don't know why the heck it stopped, but what I do know is the m20 is still listed as a braille device. They did not remove that, but removed support for triple talk usb. Your lister, Joseph Lamperis For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] antivirus question
Me too, but I think MSE is it, and sadly, at least with 7, it doesn't seem to be doing a good job. On 6/2/2017 04:51, Dennis Long wrote: I don't know I would love to see Jaws script some anti virus programs to be accessible. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Jared Rimer Sent: Friday, June 02, 2017 12:56 AM To: JAWS-Users-List@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] antivirus question If it doesn't, what will? I have not made any changes yet, but MSE isn't cutting it for my needs. I get a lot of files and attachments and it does not pick it up, even when I examine the files to see what they are. Some may be harmful, so need something that works. I don't expect perfect, but Thomas recommended it, so would love to hear how it works before I comit to getting MSE off and doing all of this work to get nowhere. On 6/1/2017 21:00, Dennis Long wrote: It doesn't work well from what I found. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Tom Fairhurst Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2017 11:55 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] antivirus question I asked about this earlier and received no response. I couldn't read anything on the home screen with Window-Eyes. With JAWS, all I can read is a number of graphics labeled with numbers. Labeling these would either require sighted assistance or a lot of trial and error. I too would like serious help reading Sophos with JAWS. By the way, NVDA did a little better, but it was not perfect. -Original Message- From: Jared Rimer Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2017 9:02 PM To: JAWS-Users-List@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] antivirus question OK, I'm consoled with a couple of people, and Sophos is the vote recommended to me. Is there anything i need to keep in mind on using this with Jaws? On 5/31/2017 21:53, Thomas N. Chan wrote: The url is http://www.pandasecurity.com/ I used to use the paid version a while ago , its simple and accessible. That's at least 10 years or so ago. But their free one should be alright as I believe its cloud driven. But I highly recommend sophos. https://home.sophos.com/?cmp=7013001xLlGAAU&utm_source=adwords&ut m _mediu m=cpc&utm_campaign=GB-EN-SMS-Brand-Search&utm_content=search&utm_term = sophos they also have a free version. The business and enterprise protection from them are just state of the art. I set them up in company network like the UTM, endpoint. I just only found out that they have the free version for home, so you should try them. regards Thomas N. Chan -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Jared Rimer Sent: Thursday, 1 June 2017 9:37 AM To: JAWS-Users-List@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] antivirus question I think I've heard of the software, but not too familiar with it. Do you have a link? On 5/31/2017 14:18, Aran_A wrote: Hello, I am using Panda, the free version of Panda. In some cases to improve the accessibility, I use the OCR option of JAWS and then I can read the screen, and while I am using the OCR, I can use the tab to go from option to option. I wish you success. Aran -Original Message- From: Jared Rimer Sent: Monday, May 29, 2017 10:38 PM To: JAWS-Users-List@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] antivirus question So, I saw a post on twitter, and it is talking about antivirus. Part of the page says: The easiest way to ensure that your antivirus software is working is to use the EICAR test file. The EICAR test file is a virus simulator developed by the European Institute for Computer Antivirus Research and Computer Antivirus Research Organization. To create an EICAR test file, copy and paste the following line into a blank file using a text editor such as Notepad:" The URL to the full post is at: https://webtecsrilanka.com/2017/02/18/how-to-tell-if-your-antivirus-i s -worki ng/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter for your review. When i went to send the original message intending to keep things in tact, the outbound picked it up as harmful which means it worked, but MSE never picked it up nor what I've written below. A bit concerning. I did this, and found that microsoft security essentials leaves it. I got concerned when I knowingly saved a file as I wanted to see if it would pick up the file. I left it for awhile and saved it on one of my drives. I submitted it using I believe it was av test or a site that I found that allowed me to see what antivirus picked this particular file I had up. MSE never picked it up. Now that I'm a Jaws user, what antivirus besides MSE would work with Jaws? I've got Windows 7, 64 bit. I don't think MSE is doing the trick anymore if a file can go undetected for that long, and it never got flagged for review. It was a zip, with an executable in it, which i knew w
Re: [JAWS-Users] antivirus question
Joseph, You do have a valid point today, but if it is something known, the antivirus should be able to pick it up. The fact a file sat on my machine so I could see how MSE performed with it and it never picked it up and I knew it was infected gave me the hint that it wasn't seemingly to work. I'll give it a look. On 6/2/2017 05:05, Joseph Freetech wrote: You might want to install the antivirus for yourself rather than waiting for others to do so. You can then amplify the knowledge on the list by posting whether it is accessible or not. I will add that there is absolutely no fail-proof antivirus. All it takes is you clicking on a single popup such as a supposed windows update to become infected. Antivirus nowadays is almost worthless in terms of protecting your computer as most attacks are social in nature which trick the end user into allowing files to run on your computer. I've been using MSE for about 7 years now without a single hint of infection. I've been running it on Windows7, Win8, and W10--all of my machines. Joseph the free tech guy! All are welcome to write me off list if absolutely any help is needed -- Jared Rimer This address is on mailing lists, please do not use it as a personal coorespondence. E-mail through jaredrimer.net for faster response times For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem with original tripletalk usb with jaws
I'm a part of the Window-Eyes to JAWS Migration. I just installed the most current version of jaws. I did contact the company and they said they didn't hear of anyone with this issue. They said they would do some testing. -Original Message- From: Adrian Spratt Sent: Friday, June 2, 2017 6:26 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem with original tripletalk usb with jaws None relating to an external synthesizer that I'm aware of. Again, did this problem begin after a JAWS or other update? If not, are you able to contact the manufacturer or sales rep? I don't know if the company is still around. Sadly, the maker of the Dectalk Express has long since disappeared in a maze of mergers. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Russ Kiehne Sent: Friday, June 02, 2017 8:51 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem with original tripletalk usb with jaws Yes, the say all command does work with a software synthesizer. This is why I think it's a tripletalk issue. Does jaws keep any kind of log file I can look at to see what is going on? -Original Message- From: Adrian Spratt Sent: Thursday, June 1, 2017 9:00 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem with original tripletalk usb with jaws I also have an external synthesizer, Dectalk Express, and I doubt Narrator could help me solve the problem if it's with the synth. Do you think it's worth trying "say all" with the internal synthesizer, Eloquence, which I think is loaded by default. You could find it quickly by pressing JAWS key+control+s and down-arrowing through the choices. If you post again, you might indicate if you've updated anything recently, such as JAWS. Also, have you unloaded and reloaded JAWS and/or rebooted in case either of those operations can fix the problem? -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Russ Kiehne Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2017 9:54 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] Problem with original tripletalk usb with jaws I have the original tripletalk usb. What happens is, when I start reading a webpage or html document with the jaws say all command, I lose speech after a short period of time. I can't even start narrator on windows 10 to find out what happened. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem with original tripletalk usb with jaws
None relating to an external synthesizer that I'm aware of. Again, did this problem begin after a JAWS or other update? If not, are you able to contact the manufacturer or sales rep? I don't know if the company is still around. Sadly, the maker of the Dectalk Express has long since disappeared in a maze of mergers. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Russ Kiehne Sent: Friday, June 02, 2017 8:51 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem with original tripletalk usb with jaws Yes, the say all command does work with a software synthesizer. This is why I think it's a tripletalk issue. Does jaws keep any kind of log file I can look at to see what is going on? -Original Message- From: Adrian Spratt Sent: Thursday, June 1, 2017 9:00 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem with original tripletalk usb with jaws I also have an external synthesizer, Dectalk Express, and I doubt Narrator could help me solve the problem if it's with the synth. Do you think it's worth trying "say all" with the internal synthesizer, Eloquence, which I think is loaded by default. You could find it quickly by pressing JAWS key+control+s and down-arrowing through the choices. If you post again, you might indicate if you've updated anything recently, such as JAWS. Also, have you unloaded and reloaded JAWS and/or rebooted in case either of those operations can fix the problem? -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Russ Kiehne Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2017 9:54 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] Problem with original tripletalk usb with jaws I have the original tripletalk usb. What happens is, when I start reading a webpage or html document with the jaws say all command, I lose speech after a short period of time. I can't even start narrator on windows 10 to find out what happened. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Creators update, The Insert and Escape keys, your best friend part 2
This message seems to have nothing regarding Creators update, The Insert and Escape keys, your best friend part 2? -Original Message- From: Jim Flusche Sent: Thursday, June 1, 2017 9:47 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] Creators update, The Insert and Escape keys, your best friend part 2 Creators update, The Insert and Escape keys, your best friend part 2 From your humble Pinhead! A Ballast for My Soul Life is like a stormy sea That tosses to and fro, But God's Word will ever be A ballast for my soul. By its truth I'll be held fast Till I reach heaven's shore Where I will be home at last And sail life's sea no more! Author: Perry Boardman For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Key Labels Speaking
Hi Steven, Try the following: 1. Open the Settings Center with, Insert + 6 on the number row, & press, Control, Shift + D, to open Settings Center Default All Applications. 2. Arrow down to, Keyboard, & press right arrow to open. 3. Arrow down to, Manage Key Labels, & press the spacebar to open. Note: Do not press enter, pressing enter will close the Settings Center. 4. After pressing the spacebar you will be in a list of keys. Arrow down to the key you want to mute, & Tab 1 time to the, Toggle Mute Button, & press the spacebar to mute. You'll hear Jaws announce, for example the Tab key, Tab Tab mute. 5. Tab to, Okay, press the spacebar, tab to, Apply, press the spacebar, tab to, Okay, & press enter to save your change & close the Settings Center. Take care. Mike. Go Dodgers! Sent from my iBarstool. Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement. In the end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree. - Original Message - From: HICKS, Steven (ROYAL CORNWALL HOSPITALS NHS TRUST) To: 'JAWS-Users-List@JAWS-Users.COM' Sent: Friday, June 02, 2017 2:44 AM Subject: [JAWS-Users] Key Labels Speaking Hi friends, Can anyone advise me of how I can turn off various key lables like alt+tab being spoken etc? Many thanks in anticipation, This message may contain confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient please inform the sender that you have received the message in error before deleting it. Please do not disclose, copy or distribute information in this e-mail or take any action in reliance on its contents: to do so is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. Thank you for your co-operation. NHSmail is the secure email and directory service available for all NHS staff in England and Scotland NHSmail is approved for exchanging patient data and other sensitive information with NHSmail and other accredited email services. NHSmail provides an email address for your career in the NHS and can be accessed anywhere For more information and to find out how you can switch, visit http://support.nhs.net/joiningnhsmail For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem with original tripletalk usb with jaws
Yes, the say all command does work with a software synthesizer. This is why I think it's a tripletalk issue. Does jaws keep any kind of log file I can look at to see what is going on? -Original Message- From: Adrian Spratt Sent: Thursday, June 1, 2017 9:00 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem with original tripletalk usb with jaws I also have an external synthesizer, Dectalk Express, and I doubt Narrator could help me solve the problem if it's with the synth. Do you think it's worth trying "say all" with the internal synthesizer, Eloquence, which I think is loaded by default. You could find it quickly by pressing JAWS key+control+s and down-arrowing through the choices. If you post again, you might indicate if you've updated anything recently, such as JAWS. Also, have you unloaded and reloaded JAWS and/or rebooted in case either of those operations can fix the problem? -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Russ Kiehne Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2017 9:54 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] Problem with original tripletalk usb with jaws I have the original tripletalk usb. What happens is, when I start reading a webpage or html document with the jaws say all command, I lose speech after a short period of time. I can't even start narrator on windows 10 to find out what happened. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] question regarding email&games;
Yes the Outlook Express version the jaws website supports Imap. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of David Whitehead Sent: Friday, June 02, 2017 8:23 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] question regarding email&games; Good morning all; 2 question regarding jaws, and email and games, Firstly, my client would like a simple email client to work with, Also, she would like to have the email sync with her Iphone. Does the outlook express version on the jaws web site work with imap? Secondly, does anyone no of any word game/s one can play using jaws? In advance, thank you. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
[JAWS-Users] question about Ultra ISO
I have started to figure this program out a little bit. So far I can modify a bootable ISO file and resave it to make my own custom win PE images just adding a couple of items to what Carlos has already created. BTW he does a great job. Now I would like to create a bootable ISO from scratch so to speak for the purposes of wiping an old drive before I get rid of it. Any pointers in that direction would be greatly appreciated. David Ferrin Life is what happens after you have already made other plans. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
[JAWS-Users] question regarding email&games;
Good morning all; 2 question regarding jaws, and email and games, Firstly, my client would like a simple email client to work with, Also, she would like to have the email sync with her Iphone. Does the outlook express version on the jaws web site work with imap? Secondly, does anyone no of any word game/s one can play using jaws? In advance, thank you. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Making Word 2010 default line spaving to single
Hello Mr Ed Groan. Don't you hate PC's when they behave way outside the spec. So there's something going on that 'over rides' the default settings. What about deleting the normal.dotx template file from Windows Explorer. Word 'should' rebuild it the next time you launch it. I say 'should' with trepidation. YMMV. Good luck Glen --- On 2-Jun-2017 11:34 am, Mr. Ed wrote: Hi Glen, I have done that same procedure numerus times on two different computers I own. It does not change it to single line spacing. I had Microsoft Disability line look at it and they could not get it to work either. I tried doing it on both my computers and it does the same thing. It does not default to single line spacing. The only way I can get it to type in single line spacing is put 1 in the box and check the box about line spacing for paragraph and then press ok. Then it will type in single line spacing until I close word and reopen a new word document and then it is back to double line spacing even though it says single line spacing in the dialog box. Thanks for your help and assistance. Mr. Ed -Original Message- From: Dialup@56k [mailto:dialup...@bigpond.com] Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2017 6:41 PM To: Mr. Ed Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Making Word 2010 default line spaving to single Mr Ed Try this: Press Alt + P, PG to open the paragraph options box. Press Alt + A to move the focus to the Line Spacing At box and enter the number 1. Press TAB to move the focus to the Defaults button and press enter. In the pop up window, press Alt + A to select the radio button labelled 'All Documents based on the Normal.dotm template' TAB to the OK button and press enter. Restart Word and see how that goes. Glen --- On 2-Jun-2017 9:27 am, Mr. Ed wrote: Hi, Did that but it still did not save single line spacing as the default when opening a new word document. Mr. Ed -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Andrew James Bontrager Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2017 10:11 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Making Word 2010 default line spaving to single try changing the paragraph settings while you have the normal.dot template open, then save the file. --- I am, therefore I think. Ande For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] antivirus question
I don't know I would love to see Jaws script some anti virus programs to be accessible. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Jared Rimer Sent: Friday, June 02, 2017 12:56 AM To: JAWS-Users-List@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] antivirus question If it doesn't, what will? I have not made any changes yet, but MSE isn't cutting it for my needs. I get a lot of files and attachments and it does not pick it up, even when I examine the files to see what they are. Some may be harmful, so need something that works. I don't expect perfect, but Thomas recommended it, so would love to hear how it works before I comit to getting MSE off and doing all of this work to get nowhere. On 6/1/2017 21:00, Dennis Long wrote: > It doesn't work well from what I found. > > -Original Message- > From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] > On Behalf Of Tom Fairhurst > Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2017 11:55 PM > To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com > Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] antivirus question > > I asked about this earlier and received no response. I couldn't read > anything on the home screen with Window-Eyes. With JAWS, all I can > read is a number of graphics labeled with numbers. Labeling these > would either require sighted assistance or a lot of trial and error. I > too would like serious help reading Sophos with JAWS. By the way, NVDA > did a little better, but it was not perfect. > > -Original Message- > From: Jared Rimer > Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2017 9:02 PM > To: JAWS-Users-List@jaws-users.com > Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] antivirus question > > OK, > > I'm consoled with a couple of people, and Sophos is the vote > recommended to me. Is there anything i need to keep in mind on using this with Jaws? > > On 5/31/2017 21:53, Thomas N. Chan wrote: >> The url is http://www.pandasecurity.com/ I used to use the paid >> version a while ago , its simple and accessible. >> That's at least 10 years or so ago. >> But their free one should be alright as I believe its cloud driven. >> But I highly recommend sophos. >> https://home.sophos.com/?cmp=7013001xLlGAAU&utm_source=adwords&ut >> m >> _mediu >> m=cpc&utm_campaign=GB-EN-SMS-Brand-Search&utm_content=search&utm_term >> = sophos they also have a free version. The business and enterprise >> protection from them are just state of the art. I set them up in >> company network like the UTM, endpoint. I just only found out that >> they have the free version for home, so you should try them. >> >> >> regards >> Thomas N. Chan >> >> -Original Message- >> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] >> On Behalf Of Jared Rimer >> Sent: Thursday, 1 June 2017 9:37 AM >> To: JAWS-Users-List@jaws-users.com >> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] antivirus question >> >> I think I've heard of the software, but not too familiar with it. Do >> you have a link? >> >> On 5/31/2017 14:18, Aran_A wrote: >>> >>> Hello, >>> >>> I am using Panda, the free version of Panda. >>> >>> In some cases to improve the accessibility, I use the OCR option of >>> JAWS and then I can read the screen, and while I am using the OCR, I >>> can use the tab to go from option to option. >>> >>> I wish you success. >>> >>> Aran >>> >>> -Original Message- From: Jared Rimer >>> Sent: Monday, May 29, 2017 10:38 PM >>> To: JAWS-Users-List@jaws-users.com >>> Subject: [JAWS-Users] antivirus question >>> >>> So, I saw a post on twitter, and it is talking about antivirus. >>> Part of the page says: >>> >>> The easiest way to ensure that your antivirus software is working is >>> to use the EICAR test file. >>> >>> The EICAR test file is a virus simulator developed by the European >>> Institute for Computer Antivirus Research and Computer Antivirus >>> Research Organization. >>> >>> To create an EICAR test file, copy and paste the following line into >>> a blank file using a text editor such as Notepad:" >>> >>> The URL to the full post is at: >>> >> https://webtecsrilanka.com/2017/02/18/how-to-tell-if-your-antivirus-i >> s -worki ng/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter >>> >>> for your review. When i went to send the original message intending >>> to keep things in tact, the outbound picked it up as harmful which >>> means it worked, but MSE never picked it up nor what I've written >>> below. A bit concerning. >>> >>> >>> >>> I did this, and found that microsoft security essentials leaves it. >>> >>> I got concerned when I knowingly saved a file as I wanted to see if it >>> would pick up the file. I left it for awhile and saved it on one of my >>> drives. I submitted it using I believe it was av test or a site >>> that I found that allowed me to see what antivirus picked this >>> particular file I had up. MSE never picked it up. Now that I'm a >>> Jaws user, what antivirus besides MSE would work with Jaws? >>> >>>
Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 17 and ms security essentials
Yes please. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of HICKS, Steven (ROYAL CORNWALL HOSPITALS NHS TRUST) Sent: Friday, June 02, 2017 2:37 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 17 and ms security essentials Sorry, a bit behind on my emails, do you still need this? -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Dennis Long Sent: 30 May 2017 08:14 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 17 and ms security essentials Could you please post the link? -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of HICKS, Steven (ROYAL CORNWALL HOSPITALS NHS TRUST) Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2017 2:58 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 17 and ms security essentials Just google search it, let me know if you can't find it and I will send you a link. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Dennis Long Sent: 29 May 2017 19:47 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 17 and ms security essentials Thank you for the help where do I get the most update to date MS security essentials? -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of JM Casey Sent: Monday, May 29, 2017 1:54 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 17 and ms security essentials I imagine mSE will continue to be updated until Microsoft no longer supports it, at which time you'll probably suddenly find you have Windows Defender instead, or will be told you need to upgrade to it. mS is good at this; you'll always be notified so long as you don't mess around with your autoupdate settings too much. This article may help you: https://www.howtogeek.com/225385/what%e2%80%99s-the-best-antivirus-for-windo ws-10-is-windows-defender-good-enough/ The info there pertains to Windows Defender specifically but probably applies to MSE just as well at this time. And I'd say a 94% success rate (or so) is more than sufficient for most people. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Dennis Long Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2017 10:44 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 17 and ms security essentials Where do you get ms security is it still being updated? How does it rank today for stopping viruses? -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Gene Warner Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2017 1:43 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 17 and ms security essentials Interesting, I'll have to check the help files about how to switch to the JAWS cursor and check it out. Later... On 5/28/2017 6:16 AM, Gerald Levy wrote: > > It is not absolutely necessary to use the JAWS cursor to access the > major components of MSE. But you can obtain additional information by > using it. For instance, on the Home tab, switching to the JAWS cursor > will provide details about your most recent scan and whether your > database definitions are up to date. Using the JAWS cursor on the > History tab will provide details on any detected malware threats. But > if you prefer not to use the JAWS cursor, MSE will still work just > fine with JAWS. > > Gerald > > > > -Original Message- From: Scorpio > Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2017 8:09 PM > To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com > Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 17 and ms security essentials > > Gerald, where do you have to use the Jaws Cursor on MS Security Essentials? > > I don't think I've ever had to use the Jaws cursor for any part of the > program. > > Could you please explain? > > Scorpio > > -Original Message- From: Gerald Levy > Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2017 7:55 AM > To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com > Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 17 and ms security essentials > > > Yes, MSE is totally accessible with JAWS as long as you use the JAWS > cursor. This is probably the most accessible anti-virus program > available, although it may not necessarily be the highest-rated in > terms of anti-virus protection. But given the fact that both AVG and > Avast are now both no longer accessible, MSE is probably the best alternative for JAWS users. > > Gerald > > > > -Original Message- From: Tom Clary > Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2017 7:40 AM > To: jaws-users-list > Subject: [JAWS-Users] jaws 17 and ms security essentials > > if anyone out there that uses ms security essentials could please let > me know if it's easy to navigate with jaws > > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: > http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ > > > For answers to frequently asked questions about thi
Re: [JAWS-Users] Key Labels Speaking
Hi, 1. Go to settings center. 2. Search for "manage key". 3. Down arrow to manage key labels and press space at. In here, you can mute "tab" to get what you want. Listen to demo of this feature on FS Cast 139. Regards, Eric Eric Damery > On Jun 2, 2017, at 5:46 AM, HICKS, Steven (ROYAL CORNWALL HOSPITALS NHS > TRUST) wrote: > > Hi friends, > > Can anyone advise me of how I can turn off various key lables like alt+tab > being spoken etc? > > Many thanks in anticipation, > > > > > > This message may contain confidential information. If you are not the > intended recipient please inform the > sender that you have received the message in error before deleting it. > Please do not disclose, copy or distribute information in this e-mail or take > any action in reliance on its contents: > to do so is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. > > Thank you for your co-operation. > > NHSmail is the secure email and directory service available for all NHS staff > in England and Scotland > NHSmail is approved for exchanging patient data and other sensitive > information with NHSmail and other accredited email services. > NHSmail provides an email address for your career in the NHS and can be > accessed anywhere > For more information and to find out how you can switch, visit > http://support.nhs.net/joiningnhsmail > > > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: > http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
[JAWS-Users] Key Labels Speaking
Hi friends, Can anyone advise me of how I can turn off various key lables like alt+tab being spoken etc? Many thanks in anticipation, This message may contain confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient please inform the sender that you have received the message in error before deleting it. Please do not disclose, copy or distribute information in this e-mail or take any action in reliance on its contents: to do so is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. Thank you for your co-operation. NHSmail is the secure email and directory service available for all NHS staff in England and Scotland NHSmail is approved for exchanging patient data and other sensitive information with NHSmail and other accredited email services. NHSmail provides an email address for your career in the NHS and can be accessed anywhere For more information and to find out how you can switch, visit http://support.nhs.net/joiningnhsmail For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] getting computer to remember websites
Did anyone suggest favorites? Justin -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt Sent: Thursday, June 1, 2017 5:42 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] getting computer to remember websites Judy, another lister posted a solution for you. Did you see that one? I'm afraid I didn't save the message. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Judy Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2017 5:34 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] getting computer to remember websites Yes, I thought it was the default behavior as well, but I am talking about sites that I have typed in several times. Judy & Libby -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2017 11:20 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] getting computer to remember websites In my experience, this is the default behavior. So I'm wondering if you went to a website before trying to return. The website address won't fill in until you've gone there at least once. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Judy Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2017 7:34 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] getting computer to remember websites Hi, all, I have gotten a new computer at work. My previous one was set so that when I went to a website, when I would want to go back to it as soon as I started typing it, it filled it in and I just hit enter on it. It has been so long since I set up my home computer I can't remember what to do to get it to do that on my work one. It has Win 7 and IE 11 and Jaws 12. Thanks in advance. Judy & Libby For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Making Word 2010 default line saving to single
Try insert six on the numbers rwo for setting ssenter, and look for the defaults in there. Justin -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Gary Ray Sent: Friday, June 2, 2017 5:05 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Making Word 2010 default line saving to single Gary Ray here. I am getting into this thread late. But, I think editing the normal template might be the answer, but it has been so long since I did this that I don't really remember how to do it. There may be someone else on the list who can remember how to do this under Win 10. Sorry! -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt Sent: Thursday, June 1, 2017 11:44 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Making Word 2010 default line saving to single Hi, Ed. Remember, in my case my default is double-space. And yes, every time I open word, the document is double-spaced. I know you want every document to open with single-spacing, and I'm racking my brains to think why your Word default is acting differently from mine. I hate to suggest a repair, but did the MS people suggest doing an MS Office repair? It's simple to do and doesn't take terribly long. If this interests you, post again and I'll gladly give you the steps. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Mr. Ed Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2017 7:11 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Making Word 2010 default line saving to single Hi Adrian, Yes I have just selected single line and press the ok button. When I have done this it still types in double line spacing even though it says single in the space box. I have two W10 computers running Word 2010 and they both do the exact same thing. The only way I can get it to single line space is to put the number 1 in the at box right after you tab from single then I have to put a check mark in where is says, Don't add space between paragraphs of the same style check box. Then I can press ok then it will type in single line spacing. Then if I close word and re-open Word then it will type in double line spacing even though it shows single line spacing in the paragraph dialog box. I had the Microsoft Disability line work on it and they could not get it to stay on single line spacing. So let me ask you one question. When you are using your word and you first open it up does it type in single space or double space? Mr. Ed -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2017 10:33 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Making Word 2010 default line saving to single Hi, Ed. In your first set of steps, you don't mention pressing Okay. Did you? Your second set of steps, based on my experience, shouldn't be necessary and may be creating a problem. Going back to your first set of steps, when you select single space, don't press enter. Just leave it selected, then tab to Okay and press spacebar/enter. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Mr. Ed Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2017 7:09 PM To: JAWS-Users-List 2 Subject: [JAWS-Users] Making Word 2010 default line spaving to single Hi Everyone. I press the application key in Word 2010 and press P to go to paragraph. Then I change the space to single. But it still does not type in single line spacing. Then I went back into the paragraph dialog box and I then put a 1 in the At box and check the box that said not to space after a paragraph. Then press ok. Then it typed in single line. But then I opened a new document and it was back to double line spacing. I went back into the pargraph dialog box and made all the same changes again and press save as default button. But it did not save it. Anyone have any ideas on what I am doing wrong to get word to stay defaulted to single line spacing? Mr. Ed For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Making Word 2010 default line saving to single
Gary Ray here. I am getting into this thread late. But, I think editing the normal template might be the answer, but it has been so long since I did this that I don't really remember how to do it. There may be someone else on the list who can remember how to do this under Win 10. Sorry! -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt Sent: Thursday, June 1, 2017 11:44 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Making Word 2010 default line saving to single Hi, Ed. Remember, in my case my default is double-space. And yes, every time I open word, the document is double-spaced. I know you want every document to open with single-spacing, and I'm racking my brains to think why your Word default is acting differently from mine. I hate to suggest a repair, but did the MS people suggest doing an MS Office repair? It's simple to do and doesn't take terribly long. If this interests you, post again and I'll gladly give you the steps. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Mr. Ed Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2017 7:11 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Making Word 2010 default line saving to single Hi Adrian, Yes I have just selected single line and press the ok button. When I have done this it still types in double line spacing even though it says single in the space box. I have two W10 computers running Word 2010 and they both do the exact same thing. The only way I can get it to single line space is to put the number 1 in the at box right after you tab from single then I have to put a check mark in where is says, Don't add space between paragraphs of the same style check box. Then I can press ok then it will type in single line spacing. Then if I close word and re-open Word then it will type in double line spacing even though it shows single line spacing in the paragraph dialog box. I had the Microsoft Disability line work on it and they could not get it to stay on single line spacing. So let me ask you one question. When you are using your word and you first open it up does it type in single space or double space? Mr. Ed -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2017 10:33 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Making Word 2010 default line saving to single Hi, Ed. In your first set of steps, you don't mention pressing Okay. Did you? Your second set of steps, based on my experience, shouldn't be necessary and may be creating a problem. Going back to your first set of steps, when you select single space, don't press enter. Just leave it selected, then tab to Okay and press spacebar/enter. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Mr. Ed Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2017 7:09 PM To: JAWS-Users-List 2 Subject: [JAWS-Users] Making Word 2010 default line spaving to single Hi Everyone. I press the application key in Word 2010 and press P to go to paragraph. Then I change the space to single. But it still does not type in single line spacing. Then I went back into the paragraph dialog box and I then put a 1 in the At box and check the box that said not to space after a paragraph. Then press ok. Then it typed in single line. But then I opened a new document and it was back to double line spacing. I went back into the pargraph dialog box and made all the same changes again and press save as default button. But it did not save it. Anyone have any ideas on what I am doing wrong to get word to stay defaulted to single line spacing? Mr. Ed For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 17 and ms security essentials
Sorry, a bit behind on my emails, do you still need this? -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Dennis Long Sent: 30 May 2017 08:14 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 17 and ms security essentials Could you please post the link? -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of HICKS, Steven (ROYAL CORNWALL HOSPITALS NHS TRUST) Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2017 2:58 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 17 and ms security essentials Just google search it, let me know if you can't find it and I will send you a link. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Dennis Long Sent: 29 May 2017 19:47 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 17 and ms security essentials Thank you for the help where do I get the most update to date MS security essentials? -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of JM Casey Sent: Monday, May 29, 2017 1:54 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 17 and ms security essentials I imagine mSE will continue to be updated until Microsoft no longer supports it, at which time you'll probably suddenly find you have Windows Defender instead, or will be told you need to upgrade to it. mS is good at this; you'll always be notified so long as you don't mess around with your autoupdate settings too much. This article may help you: https://www.howtogeek.com/225385/what%e2%80%99s-the-best-antivirus-for-windo ws-10-is-windows-defender-good-enough/ The info there pertains to Windows Defender specifically but probably applies to MSE just as well at this time. And I'd say a 94% success rate (or so) is more than sufficient for most people. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Dennis Long Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2017 10:44 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 17 and ms security essentials Where do you get ms security is it still being updated? How does it rank today for stopping viruses? -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Gene Warner Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2017 1:43 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 17 and ms security essentials Interesting, I'll have to check the help files about how to switch to the JAWS cursor and check it out. Later... On 5/28/2017 6:16 AM, Gerald Levy wrote: > > It is not absolutely necessary to use the JAWS cursor to access the > major components of MSE. But you can obtain additional information by > using it. For instance, on the Home tab, switching to the JAWS cursor > will provide details about your most recent scan and whether your > database definitions are up to date. Using the JAWS cursor on the > History tab will provide details on any detected malware threats. But > if you prefer not to use the JAWS cursor, MSE will still work just > fine with JAWS. > > Gerald > > > > -Original Message- From: Scorpio > Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2017 8:09 PM > To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com > Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 17 and ms security essentials > > Gerald, where do you have to use the Jaws Cursor on MS Security Essentials? > > I don't think I've ever had to use the Jaws cursor for any part of the > program. > > Could you please explain? > > Scorpio > > -Original Message- From: Gerald Levy > Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2017 7:55 AM > To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com > Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 17 and ms security essentials > > > Yes, MSE is totally accessible with JAWS as long as you use the JAWS > cursor. This is probably the most accessible anti-virus program > available, although it may not necessarily be the highest-rated in > terms of anti-virus protection. But given the fact that both AVG and > Avast are now both no longer accessible, MSE is probably the best alternative for JAWS users. > > Gerald > > > > -Original Message- From: Tom Clary > Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2017 7:40 AM > To: jaws-users-list > Subject: [JAWS-Users] jaws 17 and ms security essentials > > if anyone out there that uses ms security essentials could please let > me know if it's easy to navigate with jaws > > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: > http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ > > > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: > http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ > > > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: > http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ > > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: > http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about