Re: [JAWS-Users] how to drag and drop desktop icons

[Dennis Long]

It doesn't say checked.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Scorpio
Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2018 11:42 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] how to drag and drop desktop icons

Make sure auto arrange is not checked, otherwise you won't be able to move
anything.

Scorpio

-Original Message-
From: Dennis Long
Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2018 11:36 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] how to drag and drop desktop icons

I found it and unchecked grid view it still won't move them.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Scorpio
Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2018 11:27 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] how to drag and drop desktop icons

Dennis, the option only shows up when you have nothing selected on your
desktop.

When on your desktop, if you have an icon selected, press control+spacebar
to deselect the item, then press your applications key and one of the first
items in the context menu will be view with a sub-menu with various options.

Scorpio

-Original Message-
From: Dennis Long
Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2018 10:51 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] how to drag and drop desktop icons

I have tried 3 different icons I don't see view when on the icon.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2018 10:02 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] how to drag and drop desktop icons

Hi Victor,

Okay, so that would probably be in the context menu / View menu, &
unchecking Auto Arrange & Align to Grid icon options.  Thanks much for the
correction.
Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the
end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
- Original Message -
From: Scorpio
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2018 6:37 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] how to drag and drop desktop icons


Hi Mike,

In point of fact, desktop icons can be moved, and can be arranged in what
ever manner you wish, you just have to turn off the feature to lock the
icons on the desktop.

I can't remember how to do this off hand, however, of the top if my head I
seem to recall something about using grid lines and other factors in
addition to locking the icons, however, sighted people can, and often do,
move their icons around on the desktop according to preference.

Scorpio

-Original Message-
From: Mike B.
Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2018 8:33 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] how to drag and drop desktop icons

Hi Dennis,

That's because for whatever reason this is how the operating system wants
the desktop icons arranged.  I don't think you can arrange them differently
unless you rename them.  Like I said in a message I just sent before this 1,
the OS controls how desktop icons are arranged by a large degree.  It's
something like the system icons appear first, then your shortcut icons
depending on what sort order you choose from the context menu.  Also, folder
shortcut icons might be listed before program icons.
- Original Message -
From: Dennis Long
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2018 12:45 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] how to drag and drop desktop icons


Ok let me explain in more detail what I want to do.  I want to drag recycle
bin where computer is at.  It says it's moving them but there both still in
the same place.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2018 3:16 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] how to drag and drop desktop icons

Hi Dennis,

You're using the keystroke Control, Jaws key, + Jaws cursor / Numpad minus.
You should be using, Control, Jaws key, + Numpad slash.

Read the steps a little slower, they do work I've used them many times.

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the
end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.


- Original Message -
From: Dennis Long
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2018 10:49 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] how to drag and drop desktop icons


The first time I try it it says the jaws cursor will the follow pc cursor
the second time I try it it says the jaws cursor won't follow the pc cursor
the item isn't moved.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2018 9:11 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] how to drag and drop desktop icons

Hi Dennis,

Re: [JAWS-Users] how to drag and drop desktop icons

[Scorpio]

Make sure auto arrange is not checked, otherwise you won't be able to move 
anything.


Scorpio

-Original Message- 
From: Dennis Long

Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2018 11:36 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] how to drag and drop desktop icons

I found it and unchecked grid view it still won't move them.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Scorpio
Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2018 11:27 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] how to drag and drop desktop icons

Dennis, the option only shows up when you have nothing selected on your
desktop.

When on your desktop, if you have an icon selected, press control+spacebar
to deselect the item, then press your applications key and one of the first
items in the context menu will be view with a sub-menu with various options.

Scorpio

-Original Message-
From: Dennis Long
Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2018 10:51 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] how to drag and drop desktop icons

I have tried 3 different icons I don't see view when on the icon.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2018 10:02 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] how to drag and drop desktop icons

Hi Victor,

Okay, so that would probably be in the context menu / View menu, &
unchecking Auto Arrange & Align to Grid icon options.  Thanks much for the
correction.
Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the
end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
- Original Message -
From: Scorpio
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2018 6:37 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] how to drag and drop desktop icons


Hi Mike,

In point of fact, desktop icons can be moved, and can be arranged in what
ever manner you wish, you just have to turn off the feature to lock the
icons on the desktop.

I can't remember how to do this off hand, however, of the top if my head I
seem to recall something about using grid lines and other factors in
addition to locking the icons, however, sighted people can, and often do,
move their icons around on the desktop according to preference.

Scorpio

-Original Message-
From: Mike B.
Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2018 8:33 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] how to drag and drop desktop icons

Hi Dennis,

That's because for whatever reason this is how the operating system wants
the desktop icons arranged.  I don't think you can arrange them differently
unless you rename them.  Like I said in a message I just sent before this 1,
the OS controls how desktop icons are arranged by a large degree.  It's
something like the system icons appear first, then your shortcut icons
depending on what sort order you choose from the context menu.  Also, folder
shortcut icons might be listed before program icons.
- Original Message -
From: Dennis Long
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2018 12:45 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] how to drag and drop desktop icons


Ok let me explain in more detail what I want to do.  I want to drag recycle
bin where computer is at.  It says it's moving them but there both still in
the same place.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2018 3:16 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] how to drag and drop desktop icons

Hi Dennis,

You're using the keystroke Control, Jaws key, + Jaws cursor / Numpad minus.
You should be using, Control, Jaws key, + Numpad slash.

Read the steps a little slower, they do work I've used them many times.

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the
end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.


- Original Message -
From: Dennis Long
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2018 10:49 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] how to drag and drop desktop icons


The first time I try it it says the jaws cursor will the follow pc cursor
the second time I try it it says the jaws cursor won't follow the pc cursor
the item isn't moved.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2018 9:11 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] how to drag and drop desktop icons

Hi Dennis,

Try one of the following:
Use the key strokes, (CTRL+INSERT+NUM PAD SLASH) for Drag and Drop .
This is used to drag items from one location and drop them in another.
Position the JAWS Cursor on the item you wish to move and press
CTRL+INSERT+NUM
PAD SLASH. You can leave the 

Re: [JAWS-Users] how to drag and drop desktop icons

[Dennis Long]

I found it and unchecked grid view it still won't move them.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Scorpio
Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2018 11:27 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] how to drag and drop desktop icons

Dennis, the option only shows up when you have nothing selected on your
desktop.

When on your desktop, if you have an icon selected, press control+spacebar
to deselect the item, then press your applications key and one of the first
items in the context menu will be view with a sub-menu with various options.

Scorpio

-Original Message-
From: Dennis Long
Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2018 10:51 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] how to drag and drop desktop icons

I have tried 3 different icons I don't see view when on the icon.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2018 10:02 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] how to drag and drop desktop icons

Hi Victor,

Okay, so that would probably be in the context menu / View menu, &
unchecking Auto Arrange & Align to Grid icon options.  Thanks much for the
correction.
Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the
end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
- Original Message -
From: Scorpio
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2018 6:37 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] how to drag and drop desktop icons


Hi Mike,

In point of fact, desktop icons can be moved, and can be arranged in what
ever manner you wish, you just have to turn off the feature to lock the
icons on the desktop.

I can't remember how to do this off hand, however, of the top if my head I
seem to recall something about using grid lines and other factors in
addition to locking the icons, however, sighted people can, and often do,
move their icons around on the desktop according to preference.

Scorpio

-Original Message-
From: Mike B.
Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2018 8:33 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] how to drag and drop desktop icons

Hi Dennis,

That's because for whatever reason this is how the operating system wants
the desktop icons arranged.  I don't think you can arrange them differently
unless you rename them.  Like I said in a message I just sent before this 1,
the OS controls how desktop icons are arranged by a large degree.  It's
something like the system icons appear first, then your shortcut icons
depending on what sort order you choose from the context menu.  Also, folder
shortcut icons might be listed before program icons.
- Original Message -
From: Dennis Long
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2018 12:45 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] how to drag and drop desktop icons


Ok let me explain in more detail what I want to do.  I want to drag recycle
bin where computer is at.  It says it's moving them but there both still in
the same place.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2018 3:16 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] how to drag and drop desktop icons

Hi Dennis,

You're using the keystroke Control, Jaws key, + Jaws cursor / Numpad minus.
You should be using, Control, Jaws key, + Numpad slash.

Read the steps a little slower, they do work I've used them many times.

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the
end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.


- Original Message -
From: Dennis Long
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2018 10:49 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] how to drag and drop desktop icons


The first time I try it it says the jaws cursor will the follow pc cursor
the second time I try it it says the jaws cursor won't follow the pc cursor
the item isn't moved.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2018 9:11 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] how to drag and drop desktop icons

Hi Dennis,

Try one of the following:
Use the key strokes, (CTRL+INSERT+NUM PAD SLASH) for Drag and Drop .
This is used to drag items from one location and drop them in another.
Position the JAWS Cursor on the item you wish to move and press
CTRL+INSERT+NUM
PAD SLASH. You can leave the JAWS Cursor active, or you can switch to the PC
Cursor. JAWS will keep speaking as you navigate. Once you have positioned
the JAWS or PC Cursor in the location to which you would like to move the
item, press CTRL+INSERT+NUM PAD SLASH again, and the item will be moved to
the position 

Re: [JAWS-Users] how to drag and drop desktop icons

[Scorpio]

Dennis, the option only shows up when you have nothing selected on your 
desktop.


When on your desktop, if you have an icon selected, press control+spacebar 
to deselect the item, then press your applications key and one of the first 
items in the context menu will be view with a sub-menu with various options.


Scorpio

-Original Message- 
From: Dennis Long

Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2018 10:51 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] how to drag and drop desktop icons

I have tried 3 different icons I don't see view when on the icon.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2018 10:02 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] how to drag and drop desktop icons

Hi Victor,

Okay, so that would probably be in the context menu / View menu, &
unchecking Auto Arrange & Align to Grid icon options.  Thanks much for the
correction.
Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the
end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
- Original Message -
From: Scorpio
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2018 6:37 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] how to drag and drop desktop icons


Hi Mike,

In point of fact, desktop icons can be moved, and can be arranged in what
ever manner you wish, you just have to turn off the feature to lock the
icons on the desktop.

I can't remember how to do this off hand, however, of the top if my head I
seem to recall something about using grid lines and other factors in
addition to locking the icons, however, sighted people can, and often do,
move their icons around on the desktop according to preference.

Scorpio

-Original Message-
From: Mike B.
Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2018 8:33 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] how to drag and drop desktop icons

Hi Dennis,

That's because for whatever reason this is how the operating system wants
the desktop icons arranged.  I don't think you can arrange them differently
unless you rename them.  Like I said in a message I just sent before this 1,
the OS controls how desktop icons are arranged by a large degree.  It's
something like the system icons appear first, then your shortcut icons
depending on what sort order you choose from the context menu.  Also, folder
shortcut icons might be listed before program icons.
- Original Message -
From: Dennis Long
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2018 12:45 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] how to drag and drop desktop icons


Ok let me explain in more detail what I want to do.  I want to drag recycle
bin where computer is at.  It says it's moving them but there both still in
the same place.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2018 3:16 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] how to drag and drop desktop icons

Hi Dennis,

You're using the keystroke Control, Jaws key, + Jaws cursor / Numpad minus.
You should be using, Control, Jaws key, + Numpad slash.

Read the steps a little slower, they do work I've used them many times.

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the
end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.


- Original Message - 
From: Dennis Long

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2018 10:49 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] how to drag and drop desktop icons


The first time I try it it says the jaws cursor will the follow pc cursor
the second time I try it it says the jaws cursor won't follow the pc cursor
the item isn't moved.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2018 9:11 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] how to drag and drop desktop icons

Hi Dennis,

Try one of the following:
Use the key strokes, (CTRL+INSERT+NUM PAD SLASH) for Drag and Drop .
This is used to drag items from one location and drop them in another.
Position the JAWS Cursor on the item you wish to move and press
CTRL+INSERT+NUM
PAD SLASH. You can leave the JAWS Cursor active, or you can switch to the PC
Cursor. JAWS will keep speaking as you navigate. Once you have positioned
the JAWS or PC Cursor in the location to which you would like to move the
item, press CTRL+INSERT+NUM PAD SLASH again, and the item will be moved to
the position of the active cursor.

From: G.W. Cox
Maybe this will help:
Use the key strokes, (CTRL+INSERT+NUM PAD SLASH) for Drag and Drop .
This is used to drag items from one location and drop them in another.
Position the JAWS Cursor on the item you wish to move and press
CTRL+INSERT+NUM
PAD SLASH. You can leave the 

Re: [JAWS-Users] how to drag and drop desktop icons

[Dennis Long]

I have tried 3 different icons I don't see view when on the icon.  

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2018 10:02 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] how to drag and drop desktop icons

Hi Victor,

Okay, so that would probably be in the context menu / View menu, &
unchecking Auto Arrange & Align to Grid icon options.  Thanks much for the
correction.
Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the
end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
- Original Message -
From: Scorpio
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2018 6:37 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] how to drag and drop desktop icons


Hi Mike,

In point of fact, desktop icons can be moved, and can be arranged in what
ever manner you wish, you just have to turn off the feature to lock the
icons on the desktop.

I can't remember how to do this off hand, however, of the top if my head I
seem to recall something about using grid lines and other factors in
addition to locking the icons, however, sighted people can, and often do,
move their icons around on the desktop according to preference.

Scorpio

-Original Message-
From: Mike B.
Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2018 8:33 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] how to drag and drop desktop icons

Hi Dennis,

That's because for whatever reason this is how the operating system wants
the desktop icons arranged.  I don't think you can arrange them differently
unless you rename them.  Like I said in a message I just sent before this 1,
the OS controls how desktop icons are arranged by a large degree.  It's
something like the system icons appear first, then your shortcut icons
depending on what sort order you choose from the context menu.  Also, folder
shortcut icons might be listed before program icons.
- Original Message -
From: Dennis Long
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2018 12:45 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] how to drag and drop desktop icons


Ok let me explain in more detail what I want to do.  I want to drag recycle
bin where computer is at.  It says it's moving them but there both still in
the same place.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2018 3:16 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] how to drag and drop desktop icons

Hi Dennis,

You're using the keystroke Control, Jaws key, + Jaws cursor / Numpad minus.
You should be using, Control, Jaws key, + Numpad slash.

Read the steps a little slower, they do work I've used them many times.

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the
end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.


- Original Message - 
From: Dennis Long
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2018 10:49 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] how to drag and drop desktop icons


The first time I try it it says the jaws cursor will the follow pc cursor
the second time I try it it says the jaws cursor won't follow the pc cursor
the item isn't moved.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2018 9:11 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] how to drag and drop desktop icons

Hi Dennis,

Try one of the following:
Use the key strokes, (CTRL+INSERT+NUM PAD SLASH) for Drag and Drop .
This is used to drag items from one location and drop them in another.
Position the JAWS Cursor on the item you wish to move and press
CTRL+INSERT+NUM
PAD SLASH. You can leave the JAWS Cursor active, or you can switch to the PC
Cursor. JAWS will keep speaking as you navigate. Once you have positioned
the JAWS or PC Cursor in the location to which you would like to move the
item, press CTRL+INSERT+NUM PAD SLASH again, and the item will be moved to
the position of the active cursor.

From: G.W. Cox
Maybe this will help:
Use the key strokes, (CTRL+INSERT+NUM PAD SLASH) for Drag and Drop .
This is used to drag items from one location and drop them in another.
Position the JAWS Cursor on the item you wish to move and press
CTRL+INSERT+NUM
PAD SLASH. You can leave the JAWS Cursor active, or you can switch to the PC
Cursor. JAWS will keep speaking as you navigate. Once you have positioned
the JAWS or PC Cursor in the location to which you would like to move the
item, press CTRL+INSERT+NUM PAD SLASH again, and the item will be moved to
the position of the active cursor.
G.W. Cox

From: David Bailes
Hi,
you can drag them to another location using the Jaws cursor:
1. Move to the program's button that you want to move.
2. Press Insert + Numpad Minus to route the Jaws 

Re: [JAWS-Users] how to drag and drop desktop icons

[Mike B.]

Hi Victor,

Okay, so that would probably be in the context menu / View menu, & 
unchecking Auto Arrange & Align to Grid icon options.  Thanks much for the 
correction.
Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the 
end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
- Original Message - 
From: Scorpio
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2018 6:37 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] how to drag and drop desktop icons


Hi Mike,

In point of fact, desktop icons can be moved, and can be arranged in what
ever manner you wish, you just have to turn off the feature to lock the
icons on the desktop.

I can't remember how to do this off hand, however, of the top if my head I
seem to recall something about using grid lines and other factors in
addition to locking the icons, however, sighted people can, and often do,
move their icons around on the desktop according to preference.

Scorpio

-Original Message- 
From: Mike B.
Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2018 8:33 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] how to drag and drop desktop icons

Hi Dennis,

That's because for whatever reason this is how the operating system wants
the desktop icons arranged.  I don't think you can arrange them differently
unless you rename them.  Like I said in a message I just sent before this 1,
the OS controls how desktop icons are arranged by a large degree.  It's
something like the system icons appear first, then your shortcut icons
depending on what sort order you choose from the context menu.  Also, folder
shortcut icons might be listed before program icons.
- Original Message - 
From: Dennis Long
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2018 12:45 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] how to drag and drop desktop icons


Ok let me explain in more detail what I want to do.  I want to drag recycle
bin where computer is at.  It says it's moving them but there both still in
the same place.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2018 3:16 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] how to drag and drop desktop icons

Hi Dennis,

You're using the keystroke Control, Jaws key, + Jaws cursor / Numpad minus.
You should be using, Control, Jaws key, + Numpad slash.

Read the steps a little slower, they do work I've used them many times.

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the
end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.


- Original Message - 
From: Dennis Long
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2018 10:49 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] how to drag and drop desktop icons


The first time I try it it says the jaws cursor will the follow pc cursor
the second time I try it it says the jaws cursor won't follow the pc cursor
the item isn't moved.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2018 9:11 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] how to drag and drop desktop icons

Hi Dennis,

Try one of the following:
Use the key strokes, (CTRL+INSERT+NUM PAD SLASH) for Drag and Drop .
This is used to drag items from one location and drop them in another.
Position the JAWS Cursor on the item you wish to move and press
CTRL+INSERT+NUM
PAD SLASH. You can leave the JAWS Cursor active, or you can switch to the PC
Cursor. JAWS will keep speaking as you navigate. Once you have positioned
the JAWS or PC Cursor in the location to which you would like to move the
item, press CTRL+INSERT+NUM PAD SLASH again, and the item will be moved to
the position of the active cursor.

From: G.W. Cox
Maybe this will help:
Use the key strokes, (CTRL+INSERT+NUM PAD SLASH) for Drag and Drop .
This is used to drag items from one location and drop them in another.
Position the JAWS Cursor on the item you wish to move and press
CTRL+INSERT+NUM
PAD SLASH. You can leave the JAWS Cursor active, or you can switch to the PC
Cursor. JAWS will keep speaking as you navigate. Once you have positioned
the JAWS or PC Cursor in the location to which you would like to move the
item, press CTRL+INSERT+NUM PAD SLASH again, and the item will be moved to
the position of the active cursor.
G.W. Cox

From: David Bailes
Hi,
you can drag them to another location using the Jaws cursor:
1. Move to the program's button that you want to move.
2. Press Insert + Numpad Minus to route the Jaws Cursor to the PC cursor,
and then press Insert + Numpad Slash to lock the left mouse button, in other
words, start holding it down.
3. Press Numpad Plus to switch back to using the PC cursor, and then press
either Left Arrow or Right Arrow the number of times which is the number of
positions which you want to move the 

Re: [JAWS-Users] how to drag and drop desktop icons

[Scorpio]

Hi Mike,

In point of fact, desktop icons can be moved, and can be arranged in what 
ever manner you wish, you just have to turn off the feature to lock the 
icons on the desktop.


I can't remember how to do this off hand, however, of the top if my head I 
seem to recall something about using grid lines and other factors in 
addition to locking the icons, however, sighted people can, and often do, 
move their icons around on the desktop according to preference.


Scorpio

-Original Message- 
From: Mike B.

Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2018 8:33 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] how to drag and drop desktop icons

Hi Dennis,

That's because for whatever reason this is how the operating system wants
the desktop icons arranged.  I don't think you can arrange them differently
unless you rename them.  Like I said in a message I just sent before this 1,
the OS controls how desktop icons are arranged by a large degree.  It's
something like the system icons appear first, then your shortcut icons
depending on what sort order you choose from the context menu.  Also, folder
shortcut icons might be listed before program icons.
- Original Message - 
From: Dennis Long

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2018 12:45 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] how to drag and drop desktop icons


Ok let me explain in more detail what I want to do.  I want to drag recycle
bin where computer is at.  It says it's moving them but there both still in
the same place.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2018 3:16 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] how to drag and drop desktop icons

Hi Dennis,

You're using the keystroke Control, Jaws key, + Jaws cursor / Numpad minus.
You should be using, Control, Jaws key, + Numpad slash.

Read the steps a little slower, they do work I've used them many times.

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the
end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.


- Original Message - 
From: Dennis Long

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2018 10:49 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] how to drag and drop desktop icons


The first time I try it it says the jaws cursor will the follow pc cursor
the second time I try it it says the jaws cursor won't follow the pc cursor
the item isn't moved.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2018 9:11 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] how to drag and drop desktop icons

Hi Dennis,

Try one of the following:
Use the key strokes, (CTRL+INSERT+NUM PAD SLASH) for Drag and Drop .
This is used to drag items from one location and drop them in another.
Position the JAWS Cursor on the item you wish to move and press
CTRL+INSERT+NUM
PAD SLASH. You can leave the JAWS Cursor active, or you can switch to the PC
Cursor. JAWS will keep speaking as you navigate. Once you have positioned
the JAWS or PC Cursor in the location to which you would like to move the
item, press CTRL+INSERT+NUM PAD SLASH again, and the item will be moved to
the position of the active cursor.

From: G.W. Cox
Maybe this will help:
Use the key strokes, (CTRL+INSERT+NUM PAD SLASH) for Drag and Drop .
This is used to drag items from one location and drop them in another.
Position the JAWS Cursor on the item you wish to move and press
CTRL+INSERT+NUM
PAD SLASH. You can leave the JAWS Cursor active, or you can switch to the PC
Cursor. JAWS will keep speaking as you navigate. Once you have positioned
the JAWS or PC Cursor in the location to which you would like to move the
item, press CTRL+INSERT+NUM PAD SLASH again, and the item will be moved to
the position of the active cursor.
G.W. Cox

From: David Bailes
Hi,
you can drag them to another location using the Jaws cursor:
1. Move to the program's button that you want to move.
2. Press Insert + Numpad Minus to route the Jaws Cursor to the PC cursor,
and then press Insert + Numpad Slash to lock the left mouse button, in other
words, start holding it down.
3. Press Numpad Plus to switch back to using the PC cursor, and then press
either Left Arrow or Right Arrow the number of times which is the number of
positions which you want to move the program either to the left or right
respectively. This moves the PC cursor to the position where you want the
program to end up.
4. Press Insert + Numpad Minus to route the Jaws cursor to the PC cursor,
and press Insert + Numpad Slash to unlock the left mouse button, in other
words, stop holding it down.
5. Finally, press Numpad Plus to switch back to the PC cursor.
David.
- Original Message -
From: Dennis Long
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Saturday, January 20, 2018 11:22 PM
Subject: 

Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows update notification question

[Mike B.]

Hi Laura,

It's my understanding that Windows 10 has a feature called, Fast Start, that 
when your computer is off it's really not, but in a hybernation sleep mode 
to allow the computer to download / install updates when you're not using 
your computer.  Below is a note on how to check your update status.

From: David Moore
Hi,
If you have win10 home, you cannot choose which updates you want to install 
anymore. With win10 pro, you can still do this. All updates are done for you 
in the background. If you want to check if you need updates, here is what 
you do. Press windows+I to open the settings app. Press the right arrow 
clear over to update and security and press enter. Now, tab once, and you 
will hear check for updates usually, updates are ready to install, or 
windows is checking for updates. If it says check for updates, turn on the 
touch cursor if you are using JAWS. Left arrow once, and you will hear all 
of the information about when your last updates were installed, and you will 
hear your computer is up to date. You do not hear this information without 
turning on the touch cursor on check for updates and arrowing left once. If 
you hear that updates are ready to install, tab a few times and press enter 
to install the updates. This is the short version that will work for you.
Take care, all.

Touch Cursor Keystrokes:


table with 2 columns and 13 rows
To activate the Touch Cursor
SHIFT+NUM PAD PLUS
Next Object
RIGHT ARROW or TAB
Prior Object
LEFT ARROW or SHIFT+TAB
Next Object by Type
DOWN ARROW
Prior Object by Type
UP ARROW
Cycle Through Object Navigation Types
PAGE UP or PAGE DOWN
First Object
CTRL+HOME
Last Object
CTRL+END
Say Current Object
INSERT+UP ARROW
Say All with Touch Cursor
INSERT+DOWN ARROW
Route Touch Cursor to Focused Object
INSERT+NUM PAD PLUS
Text Review
NUM PAD SLASH or INSERT+ENTER
Advanced Navigation
NUM PAD STAR
table end


Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the 
end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
- Original Message - 
From: Laura Richardson
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2018 10:45 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Windows update notification question


Hello,



Using a Dell laptop, Windows 10 creator, and Jaws 18 ..



The last two times I turned my computer off I've had problems.  When I turn
the computer back on I can't get Jaws to speak and have had to hold the
power button down to shut off the computer, wait a minute or so, and then
turn the computer back on.  One of those times Jaws said that Windows
couldn't complete the update.  I have left my computer on since yesterday
for fear of not being able to use it.  My independence is totally reliant
upon this computer .. Being able to read my mail, pay my bills, etc.  I live
alone and do not have sighted help readily available.  Today, I was away
from the computer for a short bit and when I came back there was a message
that said "important Windows update notification" .. I pressed alt + F4 and
that went away.



How do I find where and what the notification is?  I've never updated
anything without sighted help and am not sure quite what to do.  Should I
just contact Microsoft disability or is this something I can take care of
myself without putting myself in a position to not be able to use the
computer?  Any help and/or suggestions would be greatly appreciated.



Laura



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[JAWS-Users] Windows notifications & updates questions

[Laura Richardson]

Hello,

 

Using a Dell laptop with Windows 10 Creator & Jaws 18 ..

 

The last two times I've had problems when turning on my computer.  When I
turn it on I can't get Jaws to speak.  I've had to hold down the power
button to turn the computer off.  When I turn it back on Jaws tells me that
Windows couldn't complete an update.  I press alt +F4 and that message goes
away and I'm able to use the computer.  Since this has happened twice in the
last two days.  I have left my computer on since yesterday for fear of not
being able to use it.  I live alone and don't have sighted help readily
available and my independence is entirely reliant upon this one machine ..
My ability to read mail, pay bills, send or receive emails, etc.  I don't
know how and have never updated anything without sighted help.  Today after
I had been away from the computer for a short bit Jaws said "Important
Windows update notification".

 

How do I find out what the notifications say?  If I need to update something
regarding Windows, should I call MS disability for help or is that something
I can do myself without fear of not being able to use the computer if Jaws
won't speak?  Also, will it hurt anything to leave the computer on for days
at a time?  Any help would be greatly appreciated.

 

Laura

 

 

  

 

 

 

 

 

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Re: [JAWS-Users] how to drag and drop desktop icons

[Mike B.]

Hi Dennis,

That's because for whatever reason this is how the operating system wants 
the desktop icons arranged.  I don't think you can arrange them differently 
unless you rename them.  Like I said in a message I just sent before this 1, 
the OS controls how desktop icons are arranged by a large degree.  It's 
something like the system icons appear first, then your shortcut icons 
depending on what sort order you choose from the context menu.  Also, folder 
shortcut icons might be listed before program icons.
- Original Message - 
From: Dennis Long
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2018 12:45 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] how to drag and drop desktop icons


Ok let me explain in more detail what I want to do.  I want to drag recycle
bin where computer is at.  It says it's moving them but there both still in
the same place.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2018 3:16 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] how to drag and drop desktop icons

Hi Dennis,

You're using the keystroke Control, Jaws key, + Jaws cursor / Numpad minus.
You should be using, Control, Jaws key, + Numpad slash.

Read the steps a little slower, they do work I've used them many times.

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the
end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.


- Original Message - 
From: Dennis Long
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2018 10:49 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] how to drag and drop desktop icons


The first time I try it it says the jaws cursor will the follow pc cursor
the second time I try it it says the jaws cursor won't follow the pc cursor
the item isn't moved.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2018 9:11 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] how to drag and drop desktop icons

Hi Dennis,

Try one of the following:
Use the key strokes, (CTRL+INSERT+NUM PAD SLASH) for Drag and Drop .
This is used to drag items from one location and drop them in another.
Position the JAWS Cursor on the item you wish to move and press
CTRL+INSERT+NUM
PAD SLASH. You can leave the JAWS Cursor active, or you can switch to the PC
Cursor. JAWS will keep speaking as you navigate. Once you have positioned
the JAWS or PC Cursor in the location to which you would like to move the
item, press CTRL+INSERT+NUM PAD SLASH again, and the item will be moved to
the position of the active cursor.

From: G.W. Cox
Maybe this will help:
Use the key strokes, (CTRL+INSERT+NUM PAD SLASH) for Drag and Drop .
This is used to drag items from one location and drop them in another.
Position the JAWS Cursor on the item you wish to move and press
CTRL+INSERT+NUM
PAD SLASH. You can leave the JAWS Cursor active, or you can switch to the PC
Cursor. JAWS will keep speaking as you navigate. Once you have positioned
the JAWS or PC Cursor in the location to which you would like to move the
item, press CTRL+INSERT+NUM PAD SLASH again, and the item will be moved to
the position of the active cursor.
G.W. Cox

From: David Bailes
Hi,
you can drag them to another location using the Jaws cursor:
1. Move to the program's button that you want to move.
2. Press Insert + Numpad Minus to route the Jaws Cursor to the PC cursor,
and then press Insert + Numpad Slash to lock the left mouse button, in other
words, start holding it down.
3. Press Numpad Plus to switch back to using the PC cursor, and then press
either Left Arrow or Right Arrow the number of times which is the number of
positions which you want to move the program either to the left or right
respectively. This moves the PC cursor to the position where you want the
program to end up.
4. Press Insert + Numpad Minus to route the Jaws cursor to the PC cursor,
and press Insert + Numpad Slash to unlock the left mouse button, in other
words, stop holding it down.
5. Finally, press Numpad Plus to switch back to the PC cursor.
David.
- Original Message -
From: Dennis Long
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Saturday, January 20, 2018 11:22 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] how to drag and drop desktop icons


Hi, how do I drag and drop desktop icons?

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Re: [JAWS-Users] how to drag and drop desktop icons

[Mike B.]

Hi Dennis,

On the desktop press, control + spacebar, to hear, not selected, to make 
sure nothing is selected, open the context menu, now use the Sort By option 
to move your icons around.  I don't know if you can move / drag & drop icons 
on the desktop being the desktop icons are controlled by the operating 
system by the options in the context menu.  These drag & drop steps are for 
moving things like icons on the Taskbar or moving files from place to place. 
Hopefully someone will have a better explanation than this 1 of mine.

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the 
end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.

- Original Message - 
From: Dennis Long
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2018 12:25 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] how to drag and drop desktop icons


When I switch to the Jaws cursor the jaws cursor reads nothing on the
desktop thus nothing is selected

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2018 3:16 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] how to drag and drop desktop icons

Hi Dennis,

You're using the keystroke Control, Jaws key, + Jaws cursor / Numpad minus.
You should be using, Control, Jaws key, + Numpad slash.

Read the steps a little slower, they do work I've used them many times.

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the
end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.


- Original Message - 
From: Dennis Long
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2018 10:49 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] how to drag and drop desktop icons


The first time I try it it says the jaws cursor will the follow pc cursor
the second time I try it it says the jaws cursor won't follow the pc cursor
the item isn't moved.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2018 9:11 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] how to drag and drop desktop icons

Hi Dennis,

Try one of the following:
Use the key strokes, (CTRL+INSERT+NUM PAD SLASH) for Drag and Drop .
This is used to drag items from one location and drop them in another.
Position the JAWS Cursor on the item you wish to move and press
CTRL+INSERT+NUM
PAD SLASH. You can leave the JAWS Cursor active, or you can switch to the PC
Cursor. JAWS will keep speaking as you navigate. Once you have positioned
the JAWS or PC Cursor in the location to which you would like to move the
item, press CTRL+INSERT+NUM PAD SLASH again, and the item will be moved to
the position of the active cursor.

From: G.W. Cox
Maybe this will help:
Use the key strokes, (CTRL+INSERT+NUM PAD SLASH) for Drag and Drop .
This is used to drag items from one location and drop them in another.
Position the JAWS Cursor on the item you wish to move and press
CTRL+INSERT+NUM
PAD SLASH. You can leave the JAWS Cursor active, or you can switch to the PC
Cursor. JAWS will keep speaking as you navigate. Once you have positioned
the JAWS or PC Cursor in the location to which you would like to move the
item, press CTRL+INSERT+NUM PAD SLASH again, and the item will be moved to
the position of the active cursor.
G.W. Cox

From: David Bailes
Hi,
you can drag them to another location using the Jaws cursor:
1. Move to the program's button that you want to move.
2. Press Insert + Numpad Minus to route the Jaws Cursor to the PC cursor,
and then press Insert + Numpad Slash to lock the left mouse button, in other
words, start holding it down.
3. Press Numpad Plus to switch back to using the PC cursor, and then press
either Left Arrow or Right Arrow the number of times which is the number of
positions which you want to move the program either to the left or right
respectively. This moves the PC cursor to the position where you want the
program to end up.
4. Press Insert + Numpad Minus to route the Jaws cursor to the PC cursor,
and press Insert + Numpad Slash to unlock the left mouse button, in other
words, stop holding it down.
5. Finally, press Numpad Plus to switch back to the PC cursor.
David.
- Original Message -
From: Dennis Long
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Saturday, January 20, 2018 11:22 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] how to drag and drop desktop icons


Hi, how do I drag and drop desktop icons?

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[JAWS-Users] Windows update, Laura's query

[Adrian Spratt]

I've noticed no reply to Laura Richardson's question about how to handle 
Windows update notifications. I'm sorry her message isn't included here. I 
deleted it when I was cleaning out my "Delete" folder.

Laura, I don't have Windows 10, but this may get you started. With Windows 7, 
the Windows update icon goes into the system tray, which I access with JAWS 
key+F11. Arrow down to and click on that icon to start the process of 
downloading and installing the updates.

There's more, but I'm pretty sure it's different from here with Windows 10, so 
I hope others will follow up.
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[JAWS-Users] Facebook Question

[Judy Jones]

Hello, Everyone,

I'm in danger of writing an off-topic message, but don't know where else to go 
to ask blind folks. I will pose my questions to those who contact me off-list. 
Please write the word off-list in subject-line, and respond to me at 
sonshine...@gmail.com. Thanks ever so much.

Judy
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Win amp

[JM Casey]

Hey guys.

Windows 10 is a little different than previous oses when it comes to file
associations. You should do as much from windows as possible. The advice
below from Jim will work, except in this case, I don't think alt-f will give
you what you need. You should use the applications key to open the file's
context menu, or shift-f10. It's also possible to go into your windows
defaults and choose all the file types you want to associate with winamp.
You'll find this in settings. Winamp preferences no longer works perfectly
to set file associations. Essentially, the rule of thumb in Windows 10 seems
to be (from my observations of the past year or so): do it within Windows if
you want everything to work nicely. This includes making winamp playlists by
using the items in context menus from file explorer, rather than inside the
winamp playlist editor. I know it's a bit of an adjustment, but I keep
Winamp around, too, and still like it, and have found it's not as big of a
deal as I might have at first thought.


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of jimrawls
Sent: January 21, 2018 12:08 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Win amp

Michael, try this. Select the file you wish to play. Then, hit Alt F, and
arrow down to open with. hit Enter. Then, select the player you wish to use
and hit enter. Jim

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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Michael
Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2018 7:52 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Winamp

Hi.  I recently acquired a used Toshiba laptop pc and upgraded it to Windows
10 home edition.  I have Winamp installed on the pc, but every time I try to
play a file in Winamp, Groove Music wants to open the file.  I have tried to
jog my memory so I can make Winamp the default player.  I open preferences
with ctrl-p after launching Winamp, but for the life of me, I can't remember
how to make Winamp the default player despite the fact that I hear file
types open under the general preferences.  I was so sure I would remember
how to make Winamp the default media player.  Thank you.  

 

Mike M. 

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Re: [JAWS-Users] how to drag and drop desktop icons

[Dennis Long]

Ok let me explain in more detail what I want to do.  I want to drag recycle
bin where computer is at.  It says it's moving them but there both still in
the same place.

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Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2018 3:16 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] how to drag and drop desktop icons

Hi Dennis,

You're using the keystroke Control, Jaws key, + Jaws cursor / Numpad minus.
You should be using, Control, Jaws key, + Numpad slash.

Read the steps a little slower, they do work I've used them many times.

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the
end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.


- Original Message - 
From: Dennis Long
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2018 10:49 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] how to drag and drop desktop icons


The first time I try it it says the jaws cursor will the follow pc cursor
the second time I try it it says the jaws cursor won't follow the pc cursor
the item isn't moved.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2018 9:11 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] how to drag and drop desktop icons

Hi Dennis,

Try one of the following:
Use the key strokes, (CTRL+INSERT+NUM PAD SLASH) for Drag and Drop .
This is used to drag items from one location and drop them in another.
Position the JAWS Cursor on the item you wish to move and press
CTRL+INSERT+NUM
PAD SLASH. You can leave the JAWS Cursor active, or you can switch to the PC
Cursor. JAWS will keep speaking as you navigate. Once you have positioned
the JAWS or PC Cursor in the location to which you would like to move the
item, press CTRL+INSERT+NUM PAD SLASH again, and the item will be moved to
the position of the active cursor.

From: G.W. Cox
Maybe this will help:
Use the key strokes, (CTRL+INSERT+NUM PAD SLASH) for Drag and Drop .
This is used to drag items from one location and drop them in another.
Position the JAWS Cursor on the item you wish to move and press
CTRL+INSERT+NUM
PAD SLASH. You can leave the JAWS Cursor active, or you can switch to the PC
Cursor. JAWS will keep speaking as you navigate. Once you have positioned
the JAWS or PC Cursor in the location to which you would like to move the
item, press CTRL+INSERT+NUM PAD SLASH again, and the item will be moved to
the position of the active cursor.
G.W. Cox

From: David Bailes
Hi,
you can drag them to another location using the Jaws cursor:
1. Move to the program's button that you want to move.
2. Press Insert + Numpad Minus to route the Jaws Cursor to the PC cursor,
and then press Insert + Numpad Slash to lock the left mouse button, in other
words, start holding it down.
3. Press Numpad Plus to switch back to using the PC cursor, and then press
either Left Arrow or Right Arrow the number of times which is the number of
positions which you want to move the program either to the left or right
respectively. This moves the PC cursor to the position where you want the
program to end up.
4. Press Insert + Numpad Minus to route the Jaws cursor to the PC cursor,
and press Insert + Numpad Slash to unlock the left mouse button, in other
words, stop holding it down.
5. Finally, press Numpad Plus to switch back to the PC cursor.
David.
- Original Message -
From: Dennis Long
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Saturday, January 20, 2018 11:22 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] how to drag and drop desktop icons


Hi, how do I drag and drop desktop icons?

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Re: [JAWS-Users] how to drag and drop desktop icons

[Dennis Long]

Ok I got it selected but the icon is still at the top of the list even after
it  says dragging icon to where I want it.


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2018 3:16 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] how to drag and drop desktop icons

Hi Dennis,

You're using the keystroke Control, Jaws key, + Jaws cursor / Numpad minus.
You should be using, Control, Jaws key, + Numpad slash.

Read the steps a little slower, they do work I've used them many times.

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the
end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.


- Original Message - 
From: Dennis Long
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2018 10:49 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] how to drag and drop desktop icons


The first time I try it it says the jaws cursor will the follow pc cursor
the second time I try it it says the jaws cursor won't follow the pc cursor
the item isn't moved.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2018 9:11 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] how to drag and drop desktop icons

Hi Dennis,

Try one of the following:
Use the key strokes, (CTRL+INSERT+NUM PAD SLASH) for Drag and Drop .
This is used to drag items from one location and drop them in another.
Position the JAWS Cursor on the item you wish to move and press
CTRL+INSERT+NUM
PAD SLASH. You can leave the JAWS Cursor active, or you can switch to the PC
Cursor. JAWS will keep speaking as you navigate. Once you have positioned
the JAWS or PC Cursor in the location to which you would like to move the
item, press CTRL+INSERT+NUM PAD SLASH again, and the item will be moved to
the position of the active cursor.

From: G.W. Cox
Maybe this will help:
Use the key strokes, (CTRL+INSERT+NUM PAD SLASH) for Drag and Drop .
This is used to drag items from one location and drop them in another.
Position the JAWS Cursor on the item you wish to move and press
CTRL+INSERT+NUM
PAD SLASH. You can leave the JAWS Cursor active, or you can switch to the PC
Cursor. JAWS will keep speaking as you navigate. Once you have positioned
the JAWS or PC Cursor in the location to which you would like to move the
item, press CTRL+INSERT+NUM PAD SLASH again, and the item will be moved to
the position of the active cursor.
G.W. Cox

From: David Bailes
Hi,
you can drag them to another location using the Jaws cursor:
1. Move to the program's button that you want to move.
2. Press Insert + Numpad Minus to route the Jaws Cursor to the PC cursor,
and then press Insert + Numpad Slash to lock the left mouse button, in other
words, start holding it down.
3. Press Numpad Plus to switch back to using the PC cursor, and then press
either Left Arrow or Right Arrow the number of times which is the number of
positions which you want to move the program either to the left or right
respectively. This moves the PC cursor to the position where you want the
program to end up.
4. Press Insert + Numpad Minus to route the Jaws cursor to the PC cursor,
and press Insert + Numpad Slash to unlock the left mouse button, in other
words, stop holding it down.
5. Finally, press Numpad Plus to switch back to the PC cursor.
David.
- Original Message -
From: Dennis Long
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Saturday, January 20, 2018 11:22 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] how to drag and drop desktop icons


Hi, how do I drag and drop desktop icons?

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Re: [JAWS-Users] how to drag and drop desktop icons

[Dennis Long]

When I switch to the Jaws cursor the jaws cursor reads nothing on the
desktop thus nothing is selected

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2018 3:16 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] how to drag and drop desktop icons

Hi Dennis,

You're using the keystroke Control, Jaws key, + Jaws cursor / Numpad minus.
You should be using, Control, Jaws key, + Numpad slash.

Read the steps a little slower, they do work I've used them many times.

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the
end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.


- Original Message - 
From: Dennis Long
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2018 10:49 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] how to drag and drop desktop icons


The first time I try it it says the jaws cursor will the follow pc cursor
the second time I try it it says the jaws cursor won't follow the pc cursor
the item isn't moved.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2018 9:11 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] how to drag and drop desktop icons

Hi Dennis,

Try one of the following:
Use the key strokes, (CTRL+INSERT+NUM PAD SLASH) for Drag and Drop .
This is used to drag items from one location and drop them in another.
Position the JAWS Cursor on the item you wish to move and press
CTRL+INSERT+NUM
PAD SLASH. You can leave the JAWS Cursor active, or you can switch to the PC
Cursor. JAWS will keep speaking as you navigate. Once you have positioned
the JAWS or PC Cursor in the location to which you would like to move the
item, press CTRL+INSERT+NUM PAD SLASH again, and the item will be moved to
the position of the active cursor.

From: G.W. Cox
Maybe this will help:
Use the key strokes, (CTRL+INSERT+NUM PAD SLASH) for Drag and Drop .
This is used to drag items from one location and drop them in another.
Position the JAWS Cursor on the item you wish to move and press
CTRL+INSERT+NUM
PAD SLASH. You can leave the JAWS Cursor active, or you can switch to the PC
Cursor. JAWS will keep speaking as you navigate. Once you have positioned
the JAWS or PC Cursor in the location to which you would like to move the
item, press CTRL+INSERT+NUM PAD SLASH again, and the item will be moved to
the position of the active cursor.
G.W. Cox

From: David Bailes
Hi,
you can drag them to another location using the Jaws cursor:
1. Move to the program's button that you want to move.
2. Press Insert + Numpad Minus to route the Jaws Cursor to the PC cursor,
and then press Insert + Numpad Slash to lock the left mouse button, in other
words, start holding it down.
3. Press Numpad Plus to switch back to using the PC cursor, and then press
either Left Arrow or Right Arrow the number of times which is the number of
positions which you want to move the program either to the left or right
respectively. This moves the PC cursor to the position where you want the
program to end up.
4. Press Insert + Numpad Minus to route the Jaws cursor to the PC cursor,
and press Insert + Numpad Slash to unlock the left mouse button, in other
words, stop holding it down.
5. Finally, press Numpad Plus to switch back to the PC cursor.
David.
- Original Message -
From: Dennis Long
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Saturday, January 20, 2018 11:22 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] how to drag and drop desktop icons


Hi, how do I drag and drop desktop icons?

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Re: [JAWS-Users] how to drag and drop desktop icons

[Mike B.]

Hi Dennis,

You're using the keystroke Control, Jaws key, + Jaws cursor / Numpad minus.
You should be using, Control, Jaws key, + Numpad slash.

Read the steps a little slower, they do work I've used them many times.

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the 
end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.


- Original Message - 
From: Dennis Long
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2018 10:49 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] how to drag and drop desktop icons


The first time I try it it says the jaws cursor will the follow pc cursor
the second time I try it it says the jaws cursor won't follow the pc cursor
the item isn't moved.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2018 9:11 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] how to drag and drop desktop icons

Hi Dennis,

Try one of the following:
Use the key strokes, (CTRL+INSERT+NUM PAD SLASH) for Drag and Drop .
This is used to drag items from one location and drop them in another.
Position the JAWS Cursor on the item you wish to move and press
CTRL+INSERT+NUM
PAD SLASH. You can leave the JAWS Cursor active, or you can switch to the PC
Cursor. JAWS will keep speaking as you navigate. Once you have positioned
the JAWS or PC Cursor in the location to which you would like to move the
item, press CTRL+INSERT+NUM PAD SLASH again, and the item will be moved to
the position of the active cursor.

From: G.W. Cox
Maybe this will help:
Use the key strokes, (CTRL+INSERT+NUM PAD SLASH) for Drag and Drop .
This is used to drag items from one location and drop them in another.
Position the JAWS Cursor on the item you wish to move and press
CTRL+INSERT+NUM
PAD SLASH. You can leave the JAWS Cursor active, or you can switch to the PC
Cursor. JAWS will keep speaking as you navigate. Once you have positioned
the JAWS or PC Cursor in the location to which you would like to move the
item, press CTRL+INSERT+NUM PAD SLASH again, and the item will be moved to
the position of the active cursor.
G.W. Cox

From: David Bailes
Hi,
you can drag them to another location using the Jaws cursor:
1. Move to the program's button that you want to move.
2. Press Insert + Numpad Minus to route the Jaws Cursor to the PC cursor,
and then press Insert + Numpad Slash to lock the left mouse button, in other
words, start holding it down.
3. Press Numpad Plus to switch back to using the PC cursor, and then press
either Left Arrow or Right Arrow the number of times which is the number of
positions which you want to move the program either to the left or right
respectively. This moves the PC cursor to the position where you want the
program to end up.
4. Press Insert + Numpad Minus to route the Jaws cursor to the PC cursor,
and press Insert + Numpad Slash to unlock the left mouse button, in other
words, stop holding it down.
5. Finally, press Numpad Plus to switch back to the PC cursor.
David.
- Original Message -
From: Dennis Long
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Saturday, January 20, 2018 11:22 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] how to drag and drop desktop icons


Hi, how do I drag and drop desktop icons?

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Re: [JAWS-Users] how to drag and drop desktop icons

[Dennis Long]

The first time I try it it says the jaws cursor will the follow pc cursor
the second time I try it it says the jaws cursor won't follow the pc cursor
the item isn't moved.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2018 9:11 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] how to drag and drop desktop icons

Hi Dennis,

Try one of the following:
Use the key strokes, (CTRL+INSERT+NUM PAD SLASH) for Drag and Drop .
This is used to drag items from one location and drop them in another.
Position the JAWS Cursor on the item you wish to move and press
CTRL+INSERT+NUM
PAD SLASH. You can leave the JAWS Cursor active, or you can switch to the PC
Cursor. JAWS will keep speaking as you navigate. Once you have positioned
the JAWS or PC Cursor in the location to which you would like to move the
item, press CTRL+INSERT+NUM PAD SLASH again, and the item will be moved to
the position of the active cursor.

From: G.W. Cox
Maybe this will help:
Use the key strokes, (CTRL+INSERT+NUM PAD SLASH) for Drag and Drop .
This is used to drag items from one location and drop them in another.
Position the JAWS Cursor on the item you wish to move and press
CTRL+INSERT+NUM
PAD SLASH. You can leave the JAWS Cursor active, or you can switch to the PC
Cursor. JAWS will keep speaking as you navigate. Once you have positioned
the JAWS or PC Cursor in the location to which you would like to move the
item, press CTRL+INSERT+NUM PAD SLASH again, and the item will be moved to
the position of the active cursor.
G.W. Cox

From: David Bailes
Hi,
you can drag them to another location using the Jaws cursor:
1. Move to the program's button that you want to move.
2. Press Insert + Numpad Minus to route the Jaws Cursor to the PC cursor,
and then press Insert + Numpad Slash to lock the left mouse button, in other
words, start holding it down.
3. Press Numpad Plus to switch back to using the PC cursor, and then press
either Left Arrow or Right Arrow the number of times which is the number of
positions which you want to move the program either to the left or right
respectively. This moves the PC cursor to the position where you want the
program to end up.
4. Press Insert + Numpad Minus to route the Jaws cursor to the PC cursor,
and press Insert + Numpad Slash to unlock the left mouse button, in other
words, stop holding it down.
5. Finally, press Numpad Plus to switch back to the PC cursor.
David.
- Original Message -
From: Dennis Long
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Saturday, January 20, 2018 11:22 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] how to drag and drop desktop icons


Hi, how do I drag and drop desktop icons?

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Re: [JAWS-Users] outlook 2010 folders

[Mr. Ed]

Hi,
You can also use ctrl + Y to go to the folders.
Mr. Ed

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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Saturday, January 20, 2018 2:13 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] outlook 2010 folders

Kevin,

As Dave posted, you can navigate with F6. However, to switch conveniently
between a list of messages and the list of folders, I use tab and shift-tab.
Shift-tab takes you from the message list to the folders list, while tab
does the reverse. Like F6, continuous tabbing rotates you through various
other branches of Outlook 2010 before returning you to where you began. 

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Kevin Lee
Sent: Saturday, January 20, 2018 1:30 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] outlook 2010 folders

How do I access my list of folders?
Using jaws 
2018 1000 712.54 ILM.
Email is golden !!!
Kevin Lee

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[JAWS-Users] Windows update notification question

[Laura Richardson]

Hello,

 

Using a Dell laptop, Windows 10 creator, and Jaws 18 .. 

 

The last two times I turned my computer off I've had problems.  When I turn
the computer back on I can't get Jaws to speak and have had to hold the
power button down to shut off the computer, wait a minute or so, and then
turn the computer back on.  One of those times Jaws said that Windows
couldn't complete the update.  I have left my computer on since yesterday
for fear of not being able to use it.  My independence is totally reliant
upon this computer .. Being able to read my mail, pay my bills, etc.  I live
alone and do not have sighted help readily available.  Today, I was away
from the computer for a short bit and when I came back there was a message
that said "important Windows update notification" .. I pressed alt + F4 and
that went away.

 

How do I find where and what the notification is?  I've never updated
anything without sighted help and am not sure quite what to do.  Should I
just contact Microsoft disability or is this something I can take care of
myself without putting myself in a position to not be able to use the
computer?  Any help and/or suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

 

Laura

 

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows update can't install a certain update

[Adrian Spratt]

Yes, it's in my system. I think you're right that MS Accessibility is my next 
port of call.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Jim Pursley
Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2018 10:56 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows update can't install a certain update

Adrian..is the update in question already in your system.  I've noticed a raft 
of updates this month - about four of them.  But all installed successfully.  
In a case such as yours, I'd call Microsoft's accessibility line for help.  I 
have generally found them helpful. Sorry for the punt.

On 1/21/2018 1:12 PM, Adrian Spratt wrote:
> Hi. I've been unable to install one of the recent Windows updates on my 
> Windows 7 machine. The others in that group installed successfully, but this 
> one is a holdout. Does anyone have a suggestion? Here's the error message I 
> receive:
>
> Error(s) found:
> Code 80073712 Windows Update encountered an unknown error.
> Get help with this error
>
> The "Get help" option leads me nowhere helpful.
> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
>
>

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows update can't install a certain update

[Jim Pursley]

Adrian..is the update in question already in your system.  I've noticed 
a raft of updates this month - about four of them.  But all installed 
successfully.  In a case such as yours, I'd call Microsoft's 
accessibility line for help.  I have generally found them helpful.  
Sorry for the punt.


On 1/21/2018 1:12 PM, Adrian Spratt wrote:

Hi. I've been unable to install one of the recent Windows updates on my Windows 
7 machine. The others in that group installed successfully, but this one is a 
holdout. Does anyone have a suggestion? Here's the error message I receive:

Error(s) found:
Code 80073712 Windows Update encountered an unknown error.
Get help with this error

The "Get help" option leads me nowhere helpful.
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Gaia Capital Management
www.gaiacapital.com
jim.purs...@gaiacapital.com
Underpinned by sustainably growing cash dividends from quality companies we 
seek long term client account growth.

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows update can't install a certain update

[Adrian Spratt]

Thanks, Mike, but I've rebooted several times since this problem began.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Mike B.
Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2018 10:53 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows update can't install a certain update

Hi Adrian,

Try rebooting the computer & reinstalling.  I ran into the same thing, & it 
installed on the 2nd attempt.
- Original Message -
From: Adrian Spratt
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2018 7:12 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Windows update can't install a certain update


Hi. I've been unable to install one of the recent Windows updates on my Windows 
7 machine. The others in that group installed successfully, but this one is a 
holdout. Does anyone have a suggestion? Here's the error message I
receive:

Error(s) found:
Code 80073712 Windows Update encountered an unknown error.
Get help with this error

The "Get help" option leads me nowhere helpful.
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Win amp

[jimrawls]

Michael, try this. Select the file you wish to play. Then, hit Alt F, and
arrow down to open with. hit Enter. Then, select the player you wish to use
and hit enter. Jim

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Michael 
Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2018 7:52 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Winamp

Hi.  I recently acquired a used Toshiba laptop pc and upgraded it to Windows
10 home edition.  I have Winamp installed on the pc, but every time I try to
play a file in Winamp, Groove Music wants to open the file.  I have tried to
jog my memory so I can make Winamp the default player.  I open preferences
with ctrl-p after launching Winamp, but for the life of me, I can't remember
how to make Winamp the default player despite the fact that I hear file
types open under the general preferences.  I was so sure I would remember
how to make Winamp the default media player.  Thank you.  

 

Mike M. 

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Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws version confusion

[Inam Uddin]

If I didn’t answer to the moderator then why He thanked me?
I already told the fact  that most of us use to send mails without reading 
mails carefully.
This thread has a link.
Before jumping to a conclusion, please visit that web page:
http://www.freedomscientific.com/Support/TechnicalSupport/Bulletin/1670
HTH
With regards from Inamuddin with the Skype ID:
Charlsdarwin1

Arguing with a woman is reading software license agreement.
At the end, you have to ignore everything and clic I agree.
You can contact me via gmail:
inamuddi...@gmail.com
inamuddin.rona...@gmail.com
outlook:
inam...@outlook.com
yahoo:
inamuddin2...@yahoo.ca
Add my Skype ID:
charlsdarwin1
Meet me on facebook:
www.facebook.com/inamuddin786
Follow me on my twitter ID:
www.twitter.com/charlsdarwin1
Call me on my cell numbers:
+92-300-2227598
+92-334-3348409

From: David Ferrin
Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2018 8:55 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws version confusion

Your message does not indicate where you got the update code and as such did 
not answer Ricks' question.

-Original Message- 
From: Inam Uddin
Sent: Saturday, January 20, 2018 10:34 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws version confusion

Respected moderator, I have mentioned everything.
You are requested to read my full email another time carefully.
http://www.freedomscientific.com/Support/TechnicalSupport/Bulletin/1670
HTH
With regards from Inamuddin with the Skype ID:
Charlsdarwin1


Arguing with a woman is reading software license agreement.
At the end, you have to ignore everything and clic I agree.
You can contact me via gmail:
inamuddi...@gmail.com
inamuddin.rona...@gmail.com
outlook:
inam...@outlook.com
yahoo:
inamuddin2...@yahoo.ca
Add my Skype ID:
charlsdarwin1
Meet me on facebook:
www.facebook.com/inamuddin786
Follow me on my twitter ID:
www.twitter.com/charlsdarwin1
Call me on my cell numbers:
+92-300-2227598
+92-334-3348409

From: Moderator
Sent: Saturday, January 20, 2018 8:22 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws version confusion

Where did you acquire this access code?

Richard Q. Justice-list moderator
jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com

- Original Message - 
From: "Inam Uddin" 
To: 
Sent: Saturday, January 20, 2018 10:14 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws version confusion


Respected friends, I have red 5 emails regarding JAWS version confusion.
The matter of fact is that the latest version of JAWS 2018 is not on the
main page of freedomscientific’s main page.
For those of you who are saying that they are using the latest version of
JAWS 2018,
They should check if they are using JAWS 2018.1712.54 which was released on
January 4th 2018?
The latest version of JAWS 2018 which is available on the main page of
freedomscientific’s main page is JAWS 2018.1712.10 which was released on
December 12th 2017.
If you find out that you are using different version of JAWS 2018.1712.54
and if you are encountering the problem in using windows 10 mail app, then
do the following things.
1. Press INSERT+J to open the JAWS menu.
2. Select Help > About and press ENTER.
3. Navigate to “Special Update Code” and press ENTER.
4. Type in the following access code: 957395
5. Press Enter.
6. Navigate to the “OK” button and press ENTER.
7. Restart JAWS 2018.
8. Press INSERT+J to open the JAWS menu.
9. Select Help > Check for Updates.
10. When the “JAWS updates” dialog opens, press the SPACEBAR to select the
JAWS 2018.1712.54 update.
11. Navigate to the “Install” button and press ENTER to perform the update.
Remember one thing if you have repaired your JAWS 2018, then it will not
update and you will have to download the full version of JAWS 2018.1712.54.
For that purpose you need to click:
http://www.freedomscientific.com/Support/TechnicalSupport/Bulletin/1670
HTH
With regards from Inamuddin with the Skype ID:
Charlsdarwin1


Arguing with a woman is reading software license agreement.
At the end, you have to ignore everything and clic I agree.
You can contact me via gmail:
inamuddi...@gmail.com
inamuddin.rona...@gmail.com
outlook:
inam...@outlook.com
yahoo:
inamuddin2...@yahoo.ca
Add my Skype ID:
charlsdarwin1
Meet me on facebook:
www.facebook.com/inamuddin786
Follow me on my twitter ID:
www.twitter.com/charlsdarwin1
Call me on my cell numbers:
+92-300-2227598
+92-334-3348409

From: jobennet...@btinternet.com
Sent: Saturday, January 20, 2018 7:00 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws version confusion

I am sure I am up to date with Jaws but the windows mail app still isn't
working.  Has anyone using the app managed to get it working properly yet?

-Original Message- 
From: Dave...Oregonian
Sent: Saturday, January 20, 2018 6:08 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws version confusion

Gary,

You asked: "...I have installed all updates that jaws has told me about.

Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws version confusion

[David Ferrin]

So I stand corrected after reading further on. I did have my coffee, guess 
it didn't kick in yet.


-Original Message- 
From: Moderator

Sent: Saturday, January 20, 2018 10:42 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws version confusion

Thank you for the clarification.

Richard Q. Justice-list moderator
jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com

- Original Message - 
From: "Inam Uddin" 

To: 
Sent: Saturday, January 20, 2018 10:34 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws version confusion


Respected moderator, I have mentioned everything.
You are requested to read my full email another time carefully.
http://www.freedomscientific.com/Support/TechnicalSupport/Bulletin/1670
HTH
With regards from Inamuddin with the Skype ID:
Charlsdarwin1


Arguing with a woman is reading software license agreement.
At the end, you have to ignore everything and clic I agree.
You can contact me via gmail:
inamuddi...@gmail.com
inamuddin.rona...@gmail.com
outlook:
inam...@outlook.com
yahoo:
inamuddin2...@yahoo.ca
Add my Skype ID:
charlsdarwin1
Meet me on facebook:
www.facebook.com/inamuddin786
Follow me on my twitter ID:
www.twitter.com/charlsdarwin1
Call me on my cell numbers:
+92-300-2227598
+92-334-3348409

From: Moderator
Sent: Saturday, January 20, 2018 8:22 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws version confusion

Where did you acquire this access code?

Richard Q. Justice-list moderator
jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com

- Original Message - 
From: "Inam Uddin" 

To: 
Sent: Saturday, January 20, 2018 10:14 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws version confusion


Respected friends, I have red 5 emails regarding JAWS version confusion.
The matter of fact is that the latest version of JAWS 2018 is not on the
main page of freedomscientific’s main page.
For those of you who are saying that they are using the latest version of
JAWS 2018,
They should check if they are using JAWS 2018.1712.54 which was released on
January 4th 2018?
The latest version of JAWS 2018 which is available on the main page of
freedomscientific’s main page is JAWS 2018.1712.10 which was released on
December 12th 2017.
If you find out that you are using different version of JAWS 2018.1712.54
and if you are encountering the problem in using windows 10 mail app, then
do the following things.
1. Press INSERT+J to open the JAWS menu.
2. Select Help > About and press ENTER.
3. Navigate to “Special Update Code” and press ENTER.
4. Type in the following access code: 957395
5. Press Enter.
6. Navigate to the “OK” button and press ENTER.
7. Restart JAWS 2018.
8. Press INSERT+J to open the JAWS menu.
9. Select Help > Check for Updates.
10. When the “JAWS updates” dialog opens, press the SPACEBAR to select the
JAWS 2018.1712.54 update.
11. Navigate to the “Install” button and press ENTER to perform the update.
Remember one thing if you have repaired your JAWS 2018, then it will not
update and you will have to download the full version of JAWS 2018.1712.54.
For that purpose you need to click:
http://www.freedomscientific.com/Support/TechnicalSupport/Bulletin/1670
HTH
With regards from Inamuddin with the Skype ID:
Charlsdarwin1


Arguing with a woman is reading software license agreement.
At the end, you have to ignore everything and clic I agree.
You can contact me via gmail:
inamuddi...@gmail.com
inamuddin.rona...@gmail.com
outlook:
inam...@outlook.com
yahoo:
inamuddin2...@yahoo.ca
Add my Skype ID:
charlsdarwin1
Meet me on facebook:
www.facebook.com/inamuddin786
Follow me on my twitter ID:
www.twitter.com/charlsdarwin1
Call me on my cell numbers:
+92-300-2227598
+92-334-3348409

From: jobennet...@btinternet.com
Sent: Saturday, January 20, 2018 7:00 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws version confusion

I am sure I am up to date with Jaws but the windows mail app still isn't
working.  Has anyone using the app managed to get it working properly yet?

-Original Message- 
From: Dave...Oregonian

Sent: Saturday, January 20, 2018 6:08 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws version confusion

Gary,

You asked: "...I have installed all updates that jaws has told me about.
also received a jaws 2018 cd.  just wondering if the updates I installed
covered that."

No. JAWS 2018, as others have said, is a completely different version from
JAWS 18. You need to install JAWS 2018 from your DVD and then check for
updates before you will be "up to date".


Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


- Original Message - 
From: "Adrian Spratt" 

To: 
Sent: Friday, January 19, 2018 19:34
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws version confusion


JAWS 2018 is not considered an update to JAWS 18. It's starts all over, and
you need to install it separately from JAWS 18. You can 

Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws version confusion

[David Ferrin]

Your message does not indicate where you got the update code and as such did 
not answer Ricks' question.


-Original Message- 
From: Inam Uddin

Sent: Saturday, January 20, 2018 10:34 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws version confusion

Respected moderator, I have mentioned everything.
You are requested to read my full email another time carefully.
http://www.freedomscientific.com/Support/TechnicalSupport/Bulletin/1670
HTH
With regards from Inamuddin with the Skype ID:
Charlsdarwin1


Arguing with a woman is reading software license agreement.
At the end, you have to ignore everything and clic I agree.
You can contact me via gmail:
inamuddi...@gmail.com
inamuddin.rona...@gmail.com
outlook:
inam...@outlook.com
yahoo:
inamuddin2...@yahoo.ca
Add my Skype ID:
charlsdarwin1
Meet me on facebook:
www.facebook.com/inamuddin786
Follow me on my twitter ID:
www.twitter.com/charlsdarwin1
Call me on my cell numbers:
+92-300-2227598
+92-334-3348409

From: Moderator
Sent: Saturday, January 20, 2018 8:22 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws version confusion

Where did you acquire this access code?

Richard Q. Justice-list moderator
jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com

- Original Message - 
From: "Inam Uddin" 

To: 
Sent: Saturday, January 20, 2018 10:14 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws version confusion


Respected friends, I have red 5 emails regarding JAWS version confusion.
The matter of fact is that the latest version of JAWS 2018 is not on the
main page of freedomscientific’s main page.
For those of you who are saying that they are using the latest version of
JAWS 2018,
They should check if they are using JAWS 2018.1712.54 which was released on
January 4th 2018?
The latest version of JAWS 2018 which is available on the main page of
freedomscientific’s main page is JAWS 2018.1712.10 which was released on
December 12th 2017.
If you find out that you are using different version of JAWS 2018.1712.54
and if you are encountering the problem in using windows 10 mail app, then
do the following things.
1. Press INSERT+J to open the JAWS menu.
2. Select Help > About and press ENTER.
3. Navigate to “Special Update Code” and press ENTER.
4. Type in the following access code: 957395
5. Press Enter.
6. Navigate to the “OK” button and press ENTER.
7. Restart JAWS 2018.
8. Press INSERT+J to open the JAWS menu.
9. Select Help > Check for Updates.
10. When the “JAWS updates” dialog opens, press the SPACEBAR to select the
JAWS 2018.1712.54 update.
11. Navigate to the “Install” button and press ENTER to perform the update.
Remember one thing if you have repaired your JAWS 2018, then it will not
update and you will have to download the full version of JAWS 2018.1712.54.
For that purpose you need to click:
http://www.freedomscientific.com/Support/TechnicalSupport/Bulletin/1670
HTH
With regards from Inamuddin with the Skype ID:
Charlsdarwin1


Arguing with a woman is reading software license agreement.
At the end, you have to ignore everything and clic I agree.
You can contact me via gmail:
inamuddi...@gmail.com
inamuddin.rona...@gmail.com
outlook:
inam...@outlook.com
yahoo:
inamuddin2...@yahoo.ca
Add my Skype ID:
charlsdarwin1
Meet me on facebook:
www.facebook.com/inamuddin786
Follow me on my twitter ID:
www.twitter.com/charlsdarwin1
Call me on my cell numbers:
+92-300-2227598
+92-334-3348409

From: jobennet...@btinternet.com
Sent: Saturday, January 20, 2018 7:00 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws version confusion

I am sure I am up to date with Jaws but the windows mail app still isn't
working.  Has anyone using the app managed to get it working properly yet?

-Original Message- 
From: Dave...Oregonian

Sent: Saturday, January 20, 2018 6:08 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws version confusion

Gary,

You asked: "...I have installed all updates that jaws has told me about.
also received a jaws 2018 cd.  just wondering if the updates I installed
covered that."

No. JAWS 2018, as others have said, is a completely different version from
JAWS 18. You need to install JAWS 2018 from your DVD and then check for
updates before you will be "up to date".


Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


- Original Message - 
From: "Adrian Spratt" 

To: 
Sent: Friday, January 19, 2018 19:34
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws version confusion


JAWS 2018 is not considered an update to JAWS 18. It's starts all over, and
you need to install it separately from JAWS 18. You can do this with the
2018 disc or by updating from the VFO website. If you install from the CD,
you'll need to update the way you do with JAWS 18, except you'll use the
JAWS 2018 menu system, or else (again) by going to the website

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List 

Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows update can't install a certain update

[Mike B.]

Hi Adrian,

Try rebooting the computer & reinstalling.  I ran into the same thing, & it 
installed on the 2nd attempt.
- Original Message - 
From: Adrian Spratt
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2018 7:12 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Windows update can't install a certain update


Hi. I've been unable to install one of the recent Windows updates on my 
Windows 7 machine. The others in that group installed successfully, but this 
one is a holdout. Does anyone have a suggestion? Here's the error message I 
receive:

Error(s) found:
Code 80073712 Windows Update encountered an unknown error.
Get help with this error

The "Get help" option leads me nowhere helpful.
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[JAWS-Users] Winamp

[Michael]

Hi.  I recently acquired a used Toshiba laptop pc and upgraded it to Windows
10 home edition.  I have Winamp installed on the pc, but every time I try to
play a file in Winamp, Groove Music wants to open the file.  I have tried to
jog my memory so I can make Winamp the default player.  I open preferences
with ctrl-p after launching Winamp, but for the life of me, I can't remember
how to make Winamp the default player despite the fact that I hear file
types open under the general preferences.  I was so sure I would remember
how to make Winamp the default media player.  Thank you.  

 

Mike M. 

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[JAWS-Users] Windows update can't install a certain update

[Adrian Spratt]

Hi. I've been unable to install one of the recent Windows updates on my Windows 
7 machine. The others in that group installed successfully, but this one is a 
holdout. Does anyone have a suggestion? Here's the error message I receive:

Error(s) found:
Code 80073712 Windows Update encountered an unknown error.
Get help with this error

The "Get help" option leads me nowhere helpful.
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http://www.jaws-users.com/help/

Re: [JAWS-Users] how to drag and drop desktop icons

[Mike B.]

Hi Dennis,

Try one of the following:
Use the key strokes, (CTRL+INSERT+NUM PAD SLASH) for Drag and Drop .
This is used to drag items from one location and drop them in another.
Position the JAWS Cursor on the item you wish to move and press
CTRL+INSERT+NUM
PAD SLASH. You can leave the JAWS Cursor active, or you can switch to the PC
Cursor. JAWS will keep speaking as you navigate. Once you have positioned
the JAWS or PC Cursor in the location to which you would like to move the
item, press CTRL+INSERT+NUM PAD SLASH again, and the item will be moved to
the position of the active cursor.

From: G.W. Cox
Maybe this will help:
Use the key strokes, (CTRL+INSERT+NUM PAD SLASH) for Drag and Drop .
This is used to drag items from one location and drop them in another.
Position the JAWS Cursor on the item you wish to move and press
CTRL+INSERT+NUM
PAD SLASH. You can leave the JAWS Cursor active, or you can switch to the PC
Cursor. JAWS will keep speaking as you navigate. Once you have positioned
the JAWS or PC Cursor in the location to which you would like to move the
item, press CTRL+INSERT+NUM PAD SLASH again, and the item will be moved to
the position of the active cursor.
G.W. Cox

From: David Bailes
Hi,
you can drag them to another location using the Jaws cursor:
1. Move to the program's button that you want to move.
2. Press Insert + Numpad Minus to route the Jaws Cursor to the PC cursor, 
and then press Insert + Numpad Slash to lock the left mouse button, in other 
words, start holding it down.
3. Press Numpad Plus to switch back to using the PC cursor, and then press 
either Left Arrow or Right Arrow the number of times which is the number of 
positions which you want to move the program either to the left or right 
respectively. This moves the PC cursor to the position where you want the 
program to end up.
4. Press Insert + Numpad Minus to route the Jaws cursor to the PC cursor, 
and press Insert + Numpad Slash to unlock the left mouse button, in other 
words, stop holding it down.
5. Finally, press Numpad Plus to switch back to the PC cursor.
David.
- Original Message - 
From: Dennis Long
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Saturday, January 20, 2018 11:22 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] how to drag and drop desktop icons


Hi, how do I drag and drop desktop icons?

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