Re: [JAWS-Users] Hard Drive Replacement

[Dave...Oregonian]

Suggest you call FS tomorrow to get the authorization code.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


- Original Message - 
From: "Fuzzmom" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, January 22, 2018 16:44
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Hard Drive Replacement


Hi. I have to replace my hard drive. And I've managed to lose my Jaws auth
code. I do have the serial number. Do I just call FS for a new code? Or
since I backed up jaws to a thumbdrive will the auth code still be there and
I can just reinstall? Never had to replace a hard drive before. Thanks.

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Further Jaws Version Confusion

[Dave...Oregonian]

2018.10 appears to be the latest regular release. 2018.54 is likely the 
version you can get earlier than the next release, when you use the special 
access code. Too much detail for me to go into. If you sit tight for another 
few weeks, the next release of JAWS 2018 will probably be a higher number 
than 2018.54 and you'll be caught up to all us mere mortals.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


- Original Message - 
From: 
To: 
Sent: Monday, January 22, 2018 19:46
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Further Jaws Version Confusion


Dear List:

It was mentioned on the list in one of the many "jaws version confusion"
posts, that the latest jaws version is 2018.1712.54

When I did the control-insert-v from the jaws screen, it said my jaws was
already at the latest update.  Yet, my version is a slightly different
number.  It is 2018.1712.10.400

Would you please explain the difference.  Thanks.  Regards:  Ted Larson

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Further Jaws Version Confusion

[Mike B.]

Hi Ted,

Officially, so to speak, you do have the latest update, but FS / VFO did 
come out with a minor update to fix a couple issues, & will be an official 
update when the next update comes out.  This so called minor / unofficial, 
so to speak, update does not appear on the released updates page, but on a 
technical support page.  Below is the explanation of the update & the 
download links.

Technical Support - Detail
Short Description
 JAWS® 2018 Reading Issues with Windows® 10 Universal Apps such as Windows
Mail and Sticky Notes

Problem

Reading issues have been reported when using JAWS 2018.1712.10 (released in
December 2017) with  Windows 10 Universal apps.  Here are some examples:

list of 2 items
1. In Windows Mail, JAWS 2018 will not speak the body of an email while
navigating by character or word.  And JAWS may read a previously opened
email
instead of the current one.
2. In Sticky Notes, JAWS 2018 repeats the character in focus and will not
speak the text while navigating by character or word.
list end

32 Bit:

http://jaws2018.vfo.digital/171254AT7754/J2018.1712.54enu-x86.exe

64 Bit:

http://jaws2018.vfo.digital/171254AT7754/J2018.1712.54enu-x64.exe

B. Or, if you prefer using the "Check for Updates" option, you can enter a
special access code of 957395 as follows:

list of 11 items nesting level 1
1. Press INSERT+J to open the JAWS menu.
2. Select Help > About and press ENTER.
3. Navigate to "Special Update Code" and press ENTER.
4. Type in the following access code: 957395
5. Press Enter.
6. Navigate to the "OK" button and press ENTER.
7. Restart JAWS 2018.
8. Press INSERT+J to open the JAWS menu.
9. Select Help > Check for Updates.
10. When the "JAWS updates" dialog opens, press the SPACEBAR to select the
JAWS  2018.1712.54 update.
11. Navigate to the "Install" button and press ENTER to perform the update.
list end nesting level 1
list end
TSN: 98522
 Date Posted: 01/04/2018
 Applies to: JAWS

main region end

- Original Message - 
From: tedlarson1...@charter.net
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Monday, January 22, 2018 7:46 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Further Jaws Version Confusion


Dear List:

It was mentioned on the list in one of the many "jaws version confusion"
posts, that the latest jaws version is 2018.1712.54

When I did the control-insert-v from the jaws screen, it said my jaws was
already at the latest update.  Yet, my version is a slightly different
number.  It is 2018.1712.10.400

Would you please explain the difference.  Thanks.  Regards:  Ted Larson

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[JAWS-Users] Hard Drive Replacement

[Fuzzmom]

Hi. I have to replace my hard drive. And I've managed to lose my Jaws auth
code. I do have the serial number. Do I just call FS for a new code? Or
since I backed up jaws to a thumbdrive will the auth code still be there and
I can just reinstall? Never had to replace a hard drive before. Thanks. 

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[JAWS-Users] Further Jaws Version Confusion

[tedlarson1950]

Dear List:

It was mentioned on the list in one of the many "jaws version confusion"
posts, that the latest jaws version is 2018.1712.54

When I did the control-insert-v from the jaws screen, it said my jaws was
already at the latest update.  Yet, my version is a slightly different
number.  It is 2018.1712.10.400

Would you please explain the difference.  Thanks.  Regards:  Ted Larson

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Facebook Question

[andy]

Hey,
Did I miss the ideas?
I think this is a great way to do things more efficient, could you share
what you have learned?
Thanks
Have a blessed year
andy

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Judy Jones
Sent: Monday, January 22, 2018 10:02 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Facebook Question

Good ideas, and thanks for the clarification.

Yes, using Jaws 18 with m.facebook.com.

I would like to know how to do a hyper link on Facebook when writing the
post.  For instance, gone shopping with daughter Jada, Jada being the hyper
link, as she is on Facebook also.  I know I can tag her, but like the hyper
link idea, as I have seen others do it and wanted to try.

Thanks.

Judy

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of David Ferrin
Sent: Monday, January 22, 2018 4:54 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Facebook Question

Face book is a perfectly fine topic to discuss on this list so long as you
are using JAWS to access it. So far as I know you use JAWS or you wouldn't
have been on here for such a long time.

Just to clarify for all concerned, when ever you are not certain about a
given topic write to the owner address on the help page and one of us will
answer you.

-Original Message-
From: Judy Jones
Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2018 5:25 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Facebook Question

Hello, Everyone,

I'm in danger of writing an off-topic message, but don't know where else to
go to ask blind folks. I will pose my questions to those who contact me
off-list. Please write the word off-list in subject-line, and respond to me
at sonshine...@gmail.com. Thanks ever so much.

Judy
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[JAWS-Users] Test

[Al Sorrentino]

Just a test

 

Thank you

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[JAWS-Users] Anonymous

[Adrian Spratt]

David, honestly, I believe this falls under the category of "No good deed shall 
go unpunished." Fortunately, the offending post initiated more posts that 
hopefully helped she-who-must-not-be-named. Once again, thanks for helping run 
this excellent list.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of David Ferrin
Sent: Monday, January 22, 2018 6:58 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows update, Laura's query

It might surprise you that I noticed the fact you did not place her entire name 
in the subject line. It is still bending the rules, so I should like to 
terminate this conversation.

-Original Message-
From: Adrian Spratt
Sent: Monday, January 22, 2018 8:28 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows update, Laura's query

Makes sense, but two points:

1. I didn't give her full name.

2. My reason for putting a first name there was to try to ensure this lister 
realized I was responding to her post which, as I explained in my message, I'd 
inadvertently deleted. No one else was responding to her situation, which 
seemed pretty serious.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of David Ferrin
Sent: Monday, January 22, 2018 7:55 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows update, Laura's query

Without looking at the moment my memory is telling me that placing member names 
in subject lines is something we do not want.

-Original Message-
From: Adrian Spratt
Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2018 6:53 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Windows update, Laura's query

I've noticed no reply to Laura Richardson's question about how to handle 
Windows update notifications. I'm sorry her message isn't included here. I 
deleted it when I was cleaning out my "Delete" folder.

Laura, I don't have Windows 10, but this may get you started. With Windows 7, 
the Windows update icon goes into the system tray, which I access with JAWS 
key+F11. Arrow down to and click on that icon to start the process of 
downloading and installing the updates.

There's more, but I'm pretty sure it's different from here with Windows 10, so 
I hope others will follow up.
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows update, Laura's query

[David Ferrin]

It might surprise you that I noticed the fact you did not place her entire 
name in the subject line. It is still bending the rules, so I should like to 
terminate this conversation.


-Original Message- 
From: Adrian Spratt

Sent: Monday, January 22, 2018 8:28 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows update, Laura's query

Makes sense, but two points:

1. I didn't give her full name.

2. My reason for putting a first name there was to try to ensure this lister 
realized I was responding to her post which, as I explained in my message, 
I'd inadvertently deleted. No one else was responding to her situation, 
which seemed pretty serious.


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
Behalf Of David Ferrin

Sent: Monday, January 22, 2018 7:55 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows update, Laura's query

Without looking at the moment my memory is telling me that placing member 
names in subject lines is something we do not want.


-Original Message-
From: Adrian Spratt
Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2018 6:53 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Windows update, Laura's query

I've noticed no reply to Laura Richardson's question about how to handle 
Windows update notifications. I'm sorry her message isn't included here. I 
deleted it when I was cleaning out my "Delete" folder.


Laura, I don't have Windows 10, but this may get you started. With Windows 
7, the Windows update icon goes into the system tray, which I access with 
JAWS key+F11. Arrow down to and click on that icon to start the process of 
downloading and installing the updates.


There's more, but I'm pretty sure it's different from here with Windows 10, 
so I hope others will follow up.

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Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws version confusion

[Gary Lee]

got it.  thanks to all.
2018 installed and fully updated.
seems a bit quicker and less troublesome on windows 10.


> On Jan 20, 2018, at 1:08 AM, Dave...Oregonian  wrote:
> 
> Gary,
> 
> You asked: "...I have installed all updates that jaws has told me about. 
> also received a jaws 2018 cd.  just wondering if the updates I installed 
> covered that."
> 
> No. JAWS 2018, as others have said, is a completely different version from 
> JAWS 18. You need to install JAWS 2018 from your DVD and then check for 
> updates before you will be "up to date".
> 
> 
> Dave
> Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer
> 
> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Adrian Spratt" 
> To: 
> Sent: Friday, January 19, 2018 19:34
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws version confusion
> 
> 
> JAWS 2018 is not considered an update to JAWS 18. It's starts all over, and 
> you need to install it separately from JAWS 18. You can do this with the 
> 2018 disc or by updating from the VFO website. If you install from the CD, 
> you'll need to update the way you do with JAWS 18, except you'll use the 
> JAWS 2018 menu system, or else (again) by going to the website
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
> Behalf Of Gary Lee
> Sent: Friday, January 19, 2018 6:55 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws version confusion
> 
> I understand how to get the version.
> what I have is
> jaws 18.0.4534.400
> 
> I have installed all updates that jaws has told me about.  also received a 
> jaws 2018 cd.  just wondering if the updates I installed covered that.
> 
> 
>> On Jan 19, 2018, at 3:18 PM, Gary Lee  wrote:
>> 
>> What version number should I see if I have the latest jaws 2018 installed?
>> I see jaws 18, but can’t get to the version right now.
>> 
>> thanks for the help.
>> 
>> 
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> 
> 
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> 
> 
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Facebook Question

[Judy Jones]

Good ideas, and thanks for the clarification.

Yes, using Jaws 18 with m.facebook.com.

I would like to know how to do a hyper link on Facebook when writing the
post.  For instance, gone shopping with daughter Jada, Jada being the hyper
link, as she is on Facebook also.  I know I can tag her, but like the hyper
link idea, as I have seen others do it and wanted to try.

Thanks.

Judy

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of David Ferrin
Sent: Monday, January 22, 2018 4:54 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Facebook Question

Face book is a perfectly fine topic to discuss on this list so long as you
are using JAWS to access it. So far as I know you use JAWS or you wouldn't
have been on here for such a long time.

Just to clarify for all concerned, when ever you are not certain about a
given topic write to the owner address on the help page and one of us will
answer you.

-Original Message-
From: Judy Jones
Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2018 5:25 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Facebook Question

Hello, Everyone,

I'm in danger of writing an off-topic message, but don't know where else to
go to ask blind folks. I will pose my questions to those who contact me
off-list. Please write the word off-list in subject-line, and respond to me
at sonshine...@gmail.com. Thanks ever so much.

Judy
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows update, Laura's query

[Adrian Spratt]

Makes sense, but two points: 

1. I didn't give her full name.

2. My reason for putting a first name there was to try to ensure this lister 
realized I was responding to her post which, as I explained in my message, I'd 
inadvertently deleted. No one else was responding to her situation, which 
seemed pretty serious.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of David Ferrin
Sent: Monday, January 22, 2018 7:55 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows update, Laura's query

Without looking at the moment my memory is telling me that placing member names 
in subject lines is something we do not want.

-Original Message-
From: Adrian Spratt
Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2018 6:53 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Windows update, Laura's query

I've noticed no reply to Laura Richardson's question about how to handle 
Windows update notifications. I'm sorry her message isn't included here. I 
deleted it when I was cleaning out my "Delete" folder.

Laura, I don't have Windows 10, but this may get you started. With Windows 7, 
the Windows update icon goes into the system tray, which I access with JAWS 
key+F11. Arrow down to and click on that icon to start the process of 
downloading and installing the updates.

There's more, but I'm pretty sure it's different from here with Windows 10, so 
I hope others will follow up.
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows update, Laura's query

[David Ferrin]

Without looking at the moment my memory is telling me that placing member 
names in subject lines is something we do not want.


-Original Message- 
From: Adrian Spratt

Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2018 6:53 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Windows update, Laura's query

I've noticed no reply to Laura Richardson's question about how to handle 
Windows update notifications. I'm sorry her message isn't included here. I 
deleted it when I was cleaning out my "Delete" folder.


Laura, I don't have Windows 10, but this may get you started. With Windows 
7, the Windows update icon goes into the system tray, which I access with 
JAWS key+F11. Arrow down to and click on that icon to start the process of 
downloading and installing the updates.


There's more, but I'm pretty sure it's different from here with Windows 10, 
so I hope others will follow up.

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Facebook Question

[David Ferrin]

Face book is a perfectly fine topic to discuss on this list so long as you 
are using JAWS to access it. So far as I know you use JAWS or you wouldn't 
have been on here for such a long time.


Just to clarify for all concerned, when ever you are not certain about a 
given topic write to the owner address on the help page and one of us will 
answer you.


-Original Message- 
From: Judy Jones

Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2018 5:25 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Facebook Question

Hello, Everyone,

I'm in danger of writing an off-topic message, but don't know where else to 
go to ask blind folks. I will pose my questions to those who contact me 
off-list. Please write the word off-list in subject-line, and respond to me 
at sonshine...@gmail.com. Thanks ever so much.


Judy
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows notifications & updates questions

[Greg Wocher]

Hello,
It sounds like your computer is trying to do an update and that is why you 
won’t hear JAWS after you either restart or shut it down and then turn it on 
again. Eventually JAWS will speak again but you have to give it a some time 
before it does. To see those notifications dow a windows key plus A and you 
will land in the notifications area where you can tab around to the different 
notifications.

Regards,
Greg Wocher

> On Jan 21, 2018, at 8:41 PM, Laura Richardson  wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> 
> 
> 
> Using a Dell laptop with Windows 10 Creator & Jaws 18 ..
> 
> 
> 
> The last two times I've had problems when turning on my computer.  When I
> turn it on I can't get Jaws to speak.  I've had to hold down the power
> button to turn the computer off.  When I turn it back on Jaws tells me that
> Windows couldn't complete an update.  I press alt +F4 and that message goes
> away and I'm able to use the computer.  Since this has happened twice in the
> last two days.  I have left my computer on since yesterday for fear of not
> being able to use it.  I live alone and don't have sighted help readily
> available and my independence is entirely reliant upon this one machine ..
> My ability to read mail, pay bills, send or receive emails, etc.  I don't
> know how and have never updated anything without sighted help.  Today after
> I had been away from the computer for a short bit Jaws said "Important
> Windows update notification".
> 
> 
> 
> How do I find out what the notifications say?  If I need to update something
> regarding Windows, should I call MS disability for help or is that something
> I can do myself without fear of not being able to use the computer if Jaws
> won't speak?  Also, will it hurt anything to leave the computer on for days
> at a time?  Any help would be greatly appreciated.
> 
> 
> 
> Laura
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [JAWS-Users] outlook 2010 folders

[Kimsan]

CTRL y also will bring up the folders list.
That works in wlm, too. So, it's not exclusive to outlook...


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Behalf Of Kevin Lee
Sent: Saturday, January 20, 2018 10:47 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] outlook 2010 folders

Thanks!

Email is golden !!!
Kevin Lee

From: Judy Jones
Sent: Saturday, January 20, 2018 10:32 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] outlook 2010 folders

Hi, Kevin,

When you are at your inbox, for example, just shift-tab and then arrow
through your list of folders.  In mine, my main folders are Inbox, but I
have created other folders, so to view the subfolders, arrow right.

Judy


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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Kevin Lee
Sent: Saturday, January 20, 2018 10:30 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] outlook 2010 folders

How do I access my list of folders?
Using jaws
2018 1000 712.54 ILM.
Email is golden !!!
Kevin Lee

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