[JAWS-Users] a couple questions

[Shane Hecker]

I'm using the latest Jaws 2018 with Windows 10 build 1803. Is it my 
imagination or did the keystroke for bringing up a skim reading summary 
go away? Also, has anyone got the virtual ribbons to work in Windows 
explorer? I can't seem to get them working. They work everywhere else so 
far as I can tell, but not in windows explorer. Thanks for any info.



Shane


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Shade Screen

[Dennis Long]

You might not be doing it quickly enough.

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Of Sadam Ahmed
Sent: Monday, May 14, 2018 11:14 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Shade Screen

That's very strange.


Mine says on or off when I press that key stroke.



On 15/05/2018 12:44 PM, cheez wrote:
> I just get a couple of blips when I do it.  JAWS says nothing.
>
> Vince
>
> - Original Message - From: "Sadam Ahmed" 
> 
> To: 
> Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2018 9:41 PM
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Shade Screen
>
>
>> No, it just says off or on.
>>
>>
>> On 14/05/2018 1:50 PM, cheez wrote:
>>> Isn't JAWS supposed to say, "Shade screen," when you press insert, 
>>> spacebar, and then print screen?  or am I doing the wrong keystrokes?
>>>
>>> Vince
>>> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
>>> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
>>
>> --
>> Yours sincerely,
>>
>> Sadam Ahmed
>>
>> JAWS certified, 2018
>>FaceTime, iMessage & email
>>
>> sa...@sadamahmed.com
>>
>>
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Shade Screen

[Sadam Ahmed]

That's very strange.


Mine says on or off when I press that key stroke.



On 15/05/2018 12:44 PM, cheez wrote:

I just get a couple of blips when I do it.  JAWS says nothing.

Vince

- Original Message - From: "Sadam Ahmed" 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2018 9:41 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Shade Screen



No, it just says off or on.


On 14/05/2018 1:50 PM, cheez wrote:
Isn't JAWS supposed to say, "Shade screen," when you press insert, 
spacebar, and then print screen?  or am I doing the wrong keystrokes?


Vince
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Shade Screen

[cheez]

I just get a couple of blips when I do it.  JAWS says nothing.

Vince

- Original Message - 
From: "Sadam Ahmed" 

To: 
Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2018 9:41 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Shade Screen



No, it just says off or on.


On 14/05/2018 1:50 PM, cheez wrote:
Isn't JAWS supposed to say, "Shade screen," when you press insert, 
spacebar, and then print screen?  or am I doing the wrong keystrokes?


Vince
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Re: [JAWS-Users] is there a blind users list for windows ten?

[joseph.lee22590]

Hi,
One of them is:
https://win10.groups.io/g/win10
Cheers,
Joseph


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Sent: Monday, May 14, 2018 6:06 PM
To: jaws users list 
Subject: [JAWS-Users] is there a blind users list for windows ten?

Hi all,

Can someone send me a link to join, if there is such a link? Thanks in
advance. Jim

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[JAWS-Users] is there a blind users list for windows ten?

[jimrawls]

Hi all,

Can someone send me a link to join, if there is such a link? Thanks in
advance. Jim

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Multiple JAWS versions

[Adrian Spratt]

I wonder if there's a semantics issue here. To uninstall is to completely 
remove the program from the computer. to unload is to temporarily disable a 
program until you're ready to bring it back. So yes, you do need to unload JAWS 
18 before loading JAWS 17.

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Sent: Monday, May 14, 2018 4:21 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Multiple JAWS versions

David:
So, if I understand you correctly, I have to uninstall my 2018, correct? 
Thanks

-Original Message-
From: David Whitehead
Sent: Monday, May 14, 2018 2:12 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Multiple JAWS versions

hello;
you said;
I have 17 in my downloads folder, as well as in the programs page of control 
panel.
if this is the case, most likely you already have the jaws17 installed.
what you need to do is to create a shortcut to start the version 17.
give this a try;

1, unload the current version of jaws your running.
2, type: windows-key+r=run,
3, type: jaws17 press enter.
this should load jaws 17.
if this is true, now you can create shortcut for this version, example, 
alt+ctrl+7.

   Statistics are like a bikini.  What they reveal is suggestive, but what 
they conceal is vital.

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From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of 
jyandt.mar...@comcast.net
Sent: Monday, May 14, 2018 2:05 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Multiple JAWS versions

Afternoon all.

I need to take an assessment test for a possible job interview. The end result 
of the software states that I need to use JAWS 17, not 2018. I have
17 in my downloads folder, as well as in the programs page of control panel.
I need to find out how I would go about re-installing version 17 on my Dell 
laptop, with Windows 10, while using version 2018 for the process, if it is 
possible. Thanks in advance.

Jerry
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Multiple JAWS versions

[David Whitehead]

no no no!

you do not have to uninstall anything.
just unload the version your using,
and you can start jaws17 the way I suggested,
if you don't have a shortcut for the program.


       Statistics are like a bikini.  What they reveal is suggestive, but
what they conceal is vital.

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jyandt.mar...@comcast.net
Sent: Monday, May 14, 2018 4:21 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Multiple JAWS versions

David:
So, if I understand you correctly, I have to uninstall my 2018, correct? 
Thanks

-Original Message- 
From: David Whitehead
Sent: Monday, May 14, 2018 2:12 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Multiple JAWS versions

hello;
you said;
I have 17 in my downloads folder, as well as in the programs page of control
panel.
if this is the case, most likely you already have the jaws17 installed.
what you need to do is to create a shortcut to start the version 17.
give this a try;

1, unload the current version of jaws your running.
2, type: windows-key+r=run,
3, type: jaws17 press enter.
this should load jaws 17.
if this is true, now you can create shortcut for this version,
example, alt+ctrl+7.

   Statistics are like a bikini.  What they reveal is suggestive, but
what they conceal is vital.

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From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of
jyandt.mar...@comcast.net
Sent: Monday, May 14, 2018 2:05 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Multiple JAWS versions

Afternoon all.

I need to take an assessment test for a possible job interview. The end
result of the software states that I need to use JAWS 17, not 2018. I have
17 in my downloads folder, as well as in the programs page of control panel.
I need to find out how I would go about re-installing version 17 on my Dell
laptop, with Windows 10, while using version 2018 for the process, if it is
possible. Thanks in advance.

Jerry
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Multiple JAWS versions

[Mike B.]

Hi Jerry,

No, you don't need to uninstall anything.  Being that you said you have Jaws 
17 showing in Programs of the control panel, David is trying to see if Jaws 
17 is only showing or if it's installed.

If you open the start menu and open your Programs folder, arrow down to see 
if Jaws 17 is there.  If it's there, Jaws 17 is probably already installed. 
To finde out for sure, this is what David is suggesting, open the Run 
dialogue with the keystroke Windows key + R, and type in the following:

jaws 17

Now unload whatever version of Jaws you have running with the, Jaws key + 
F4, keystroke and press enter. to shut that version down.  Now press enter 
again, and if you have Jaws 17 installed it should start.
Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the 
end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
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From: jyandt.mar...@comcast.net
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Monday, May 14, 2018 1:21 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Multiple JAWS versions


David:
So, if I understand you correctly, I have to uninstall my 2018, correct?
Thanks

-Original Message- 
From: David Whitehead
Sent: Monday, May 14, 2018 2:12 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Multiple JAWS versions

hello;
you said;
I have 17 in my downloads folder, as well as in the programs page of control
panel.
if this is the case, most likely you already have the jaws17 installed.
what you need to do is to create a shortcut to start the version 17.
give this a try;

1, unload the current version of jaws your running.
2, type: windows-key+r=run,
3, type: jaws17 press enter.
this should load jaws 17.
if this is true, now you can create shortcut for this version,
example, alt+ctrl+7.

   Statistics are like a bikini.  What they reveal is suggestive, but
what they conceal is vital.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of
jyandt.mar...@comcast.net
Sent: Monday, May 14, 2018 2:05 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Multiple JAWS versions

Afternoon all.

I need to take an assessment test for a possible job interview. The end
result of the software states that I need to use JAWS 17, not 2018. I have
17 in my downloads folder, as well as in the programs page of control panel.
I need to find out how I would go about re-installing version 17 on my Dell
laptop, with Windows 10, while using version 2018 for the process, if it is
possible. Thanks in advance.

Jerry
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Of Possible Interest Windows 10 Information

[Rebecca Lineberger]

They're for 1803 so I doubt Bard has them.  You could download them from
Bookshare as MP3 audio and play them on the NLS player.
I got them as epub books and used Edge to open and read them.
But I've not done more than glance at them.
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Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Monday, May 14, 2018 3:17 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Of Possible Interest Windows 10 Information

Hi Rebecca,

Do you know if these books are available from BARD?  Or is this just a
Victor Reader thing?  Thanks much.

Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sennt from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the
end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
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From: Rebecca Lineberger
To: jaws user's list
Sent: Monday, May 14, 2018 4:18 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Of Possible Interest Windows 10 Information


For those who have access to Bookshare:

Windows 10 For Dummies

Andy Rathbone

2018

04/20/18

Windows 10 For Seniors For Dummies

Peter Weverka

2018

04/24/18



HTH.

Rebecca

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Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws saying listbox

[Mike B.]

Hi David,

Is this happening in a particular document, or all documents?
Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the 
end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
- Original Message - 
From: David Whitehead
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Monday, May 14, 2018 12:38 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] jaws saying listbox


Good afternoon,

asking for another jaws user.

the person hears,

listbox within word at each start of new line or paragraph.

is this a jaws thing? or a word thing.

if so, how to turn off this announcement.





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Re: [JAWS-Users] Multiple JAWS versions

[jyandt.martin]

David:
So, if I understand you correctly, I have to uninstall my 2018, correct? 
Thanks


-Original Message- 
From: David Whitehead

Sent: Monday, May 14, 2018 2:12 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Multiple JAWS versions

hello;
you said;
I have 17 in my downloads folder, as well as in the programs page of control
panel.
if this is the case, most likely you already have the jaws17 installed.
what you need to do is to create a shortcut to start the version 17.
give this a try;

1, unload the current version of jaws your running.
2, type: windows-key+r=run,
3, type: jaws17 press enter.
this should load jaws 17.
if this is true, now you can create shortcut for this version,
example, alt+ctrl+7.

  Statistics are like a bikini.  What they reveal is suggestive, but
what they conceal is vital.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of
jyandt.mar...@comcast.net
Sent: Monday, May 14, 2018 2:05 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Multiple JAWS versions

Afternoon all.

I need to take an assessment test for a possible job interview. The end
result of the software states that I need to use JAWS 17, not 2018. I have
17 in my downloads folder, as well as in the programs page of control panel.
I need to find out how I would go about re-installing version 17 on my Dell
laptop, with Windows 10, while using version 2018 for the process, if it is
possible. Thanks in advance.

Jerry
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[JAWS-Users] jaws saying listbox

[David Whitehead]

Good afternoon,

asking for another jaws user.

the person hears,

listbox within word at each start of new line or paragraph.

is this a jaws thing? or a word thing.

if so, how to turn off this announcement.

 

 

   Statistics are like a bikini.  What they reveal is suggestive, but
what they conceal is vital.

 

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Multiple JAWS versions

[jyandt.martin]

Thanks. I was not sure as to how to do this while 2018 was running; if at 
all.


-Original Message- 
From: Mike B.

Sent: Monday, May 14, 2018 1:38 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Multiple JAWS versions

Hi Jerry,

You can install J17 running either J18 or J2018.  But, since J17 will not
receive anymore updates Freedom Scientific / VFO can't guarantee that J17 is
going to work well with the latest Windows 10 April 1803 update.
Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the
end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
- Original Message - 
From: jyandt.mar...@comcast.net

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Monday, May 14, 2018 11:04 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Multiple JAWS versions


Afternoon all.

I need to take an assessment test for a possible job interview. The end
result of the software states that I need to use JAWS 17, not 2018. I have
17 in my downloads folder, as well as in the programs page of control panel.
I need to find out how I would go about re-installing version 17 on my Dell
laptop, with Windows 10, while using version 2018 for the process, if it is
possible. Thanks in advance.

Jerry
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Of Possible Interest Windows 10 Information

[Mike B.]

Hi Rebecca,

Do you know if these books are available from BARD?  Or is this just a 
Victor Reader thing?  Thanks much.

Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sennt from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the 
end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
- Original Message - 
From: Rebecca Lineberger
To: jaws user's list
Sent: Monday, May 14, 2018 4:18 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Of Possible Interest Windows 10 Information


For those who have access to Bookshare:

Windows 10 For Dummies

Andy Rathbone

2018

04/20/18

Windows 10 For Seniors For Dummies

Peter Weverka

2018

04/24/18



HTH.

Rebecca

Angels can fly because they take themselves lightly.

G. K. Chesterton



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Re: [JAWS-Users] Multiple JAWS versions

[David Whitehead]

hello;
you said;
I have 17 in my downloads folder, as well as in the programs page of control
panel.
if this is the case, most likely you already have the jaws17 installed.
what you need to do is to create a shortcut to start the version 17.
give this a try;

1, unload the current version of jaws your running.
2, type: windows-key+r=run,
3, type: jaws17 press enter.
this should load jaws 17.
if this is true, now you can create shortcut for this version,
example, alt+ctrl+7.

       Statistics are like a bikini.  What they reveal is suggestive, but
what they conceal is vital.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of
jyandt.mar...@comcast.net
Sent: Monday, May 14, 2018 2:05 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Multiple JAWS versions

Afternoon all.

I need to take an assessment test for a possible job interview. The end
result of the software states that I need to use JAWS 17, not 2018. I have
17 in my downloads folder, as well as in the programs page of control panel.
I need to find out how I would go about re-installing version 17 on my Dell
laptop, with Windows 10, while using version 2018 for the process, if it is
possible. Thanks in advance.

Jerry
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Multiple JAWS versions

[Mike B.]

Hi Jerry,

You can install J17 running either J18 or J2018.  But, since J17 will not 
receive anymore updates Freedom Scientific / VFO can't guarantee that J17 is 
going to work well with the latest Windows 10 April 1803 update.
Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the 
end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
- Original Message - 
From: jyandt.mar...@comcast.net
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Monday, May 14, 2018 11:04 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Multiple JAWS versions


Afternoon all.

I need to take an assessment test for a possible job interview. The end 
result of the software states that I need to use JAWS 17, not 2018. I have 
17 in my downloads folder, as well as in the programs page of control panel. 
I need to find out how I would go about re-installing version 17 on my Dell 
laptop, with Windows 10, while using version 2018 for the process, if it is 
possible. Thanks in advance.

Jerry
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[JAWS-Users] Multiple JAWS versions

[jyandt.martin]

Afternoon all.

I need to take an assessment test for a possible job interview. The end result 
of the software states that I need to use JAWS 17, not 2018. I have 17 in my 
downloads folder, as well as in the programs page of control panel. I need to 
find out how I would go about re-installing version 17 on my Dell laptop, with 
Windows 10, while using version 2018 for the process, if it is possible. Thanks 
in advance.

Jerry
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[JAWS-Users] Google Chrome

[Moderator]

If we are going to discuss Chrome, let's make sure the subject line reflects 
that.

Thank you,

Richard Q. Justice-list moderator
jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com

- Original Message - 
From: "JM Casey" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, May 14, 2018 12:21 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Firefox 60


That's good stuff. I've used Chrome before with success, with no extentions. 
Can you fill us in on some of the ones you like to use, which make your 
browsing experience superior, in your view? I use Firefox and am generally 
happy doing so, but am certainly impressed with the speed of Chrome. The 
only reason I don't generally use it as much as FF is that my girlfriend and 
I share the pC and haven't yet bothered to set up separate user accounts, 
and Chrome is the brwoser she uses.

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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
Behalf Of gary-melconian
Sent: May 13, 2018 11:29 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Firefox 60

In chrome there is a button called chrome store, launch it and  type 
accessibility and all kinds of wonderful accessibility extensions are 
offered to you.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
Behalf Of Justin Williams
Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2018 6:23 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Firefox 60

With chrome, where can I find the extentions?  I'd like to try chrome with 
JAWS.
 Justin

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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
Behalf Of gary-melconian
Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2018 8:12 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Firefox 60

Search for captia on the chrome store and you will find it.its escaping me 
at the moment.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
Behalf Of Tom Fairhurst
Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2018 4:32 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Firefox 60

I'm chiming in late here, but how do Chrome users solve captchas? I've heard 
of Captcha Be Gone.

-Original Message-
From: gary-melconian
Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2018 6:15 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Firefox 60

Have not used firefox ever since the massive changes that firefox did with
57 and beyond.  I just  use chrome more then I used firefox versions.   As
with chrome, there are all kinds of accessibility extensions and other 
extension that  makes my browsing a  pleasure on chrome where as on firefox 
its like going through sites  on a horse and buggy where as on chrome its 
like going through sites with a fast sports car.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2018 3:50 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Firefox 60

Aaron,

Thanks for posting your detailed rant. I, too, am enormously frustrated that 
browsing has become so time--consuming and sometimes unreliable. I'm 
constantly switching among three browsers and two versions of JAWS because 
different combinations work best with different websites, and even then some 
websites remain hard, if not impossible, to navigate. The other day, a 
certain website owner had taken steps to make everything accessible, only 
for me to install Firefox 60 and generate a host of new issues. No wonder 
some website designers get frustrated with accessibility obligations.

Developments on the Web seem to be moving faster than screenreader companies 
can keep up with. But I wonder why non-screenreader users aren't also 
encountering limitations with different browsers, since each seems to 
function differently.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of
Valiant8086
Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2018 3:20 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Firefox 60

Hi.


I switched to Firefox  60, found it still a bit lacking in performance, and 
switched back to Chrome. A site that makes it painfully clear which one is 
winning is amazon.com. Just doing a search for something and noticing how 
long pages need to appear and be readable, and how responsive navigation 
keys arrows and quick nav etc are. Firefox is almost back to what it was in 
52, but not totally. I was under the impression it would run better than 
chrome but that hasn't been so for me.


Edge is reasonably quick loading pages and allowing me to begin arrowing on 
them, but the way it announces going in and out of regions and such is very 
verbose and I find it slows me down too much. I'm really a little annoyed at 
just how much it seems to be asking to have a really good browsing 
experience this day and age. Chrome doesn't have it all either, it can 
easily get messed up and start 

Re: [JAWS-Users] Guide to windows 10 1803 by Jim Flusche?

[andy t]

Hello Michael, Unfortunately Jim isn't able to wright tutorials at this time 
he has been under going major surgery and is off our windows 10 and jaws
list right now but we are trying to play catch up right now and my main 
computer is down at this time and I am having to replace it so there is a
hold on new tutorials right now but we are hanging in there I hope this 
explanation helps you all know what's going on right now.


-Original Message- 
From: David Ferrin

Sent: Monday, May 14, 2018 6:17 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Guide to windows 10 1803 by Jim Flusche?

All I can tell you is that he is having some health issues at this time.
Unfortunately that is all the information I have to share.

-Original Message- 
From: Michael Amaro

Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2018 9:14 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Guide to windows 10 1803 by Jim Flusche?

Hello Listers,

There used to be a gentleman By the name of Jim Flusche.  Every time a new
version of windows 10 came up, he would put out ajaws users guide on how to
use jaws with windows 10 accordingly.  The last one he did was on windows 10
1709 I believe.  I haven't seen one for 1803.  Is he no longer doing them?
I  found them very helpful.

Thanks

Michael

skype/email:

mikeam...@earthlink.net

iPhone email:

mikeam...@icloud.com

JFK"

What kind of peace do I mean? What kind of peace do we seek? Not a Pax
Americana enforced on the world by American weapons of war. Not the peace of
the grave or the security of the slave. I am talking about genuine peace,
the kind of peace that makes life on earth worth living, the kind that
enables men and nations to grow and to hope and to build a better life for
their children--not merely peace for Americans but peace for all men and
women--not merely peace in our time but peace for all time"
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Firefox 60

[JM Casey]

That's good stuff. I've used Chrome before with success, with no extentions. 
Can you fill us in on some of the ones you like to use, which make your 
browsing experience superior, in your view? I use Firefox and am generally 
happy doing so, but am certainly impressed with the speed of Chrome. The only 
reason I don't generally use it as much as FF is that my girlfriend and I share 
the pC and haven't yet bothered to set up separate user accounts, and Chrome is 
the brwoser she uses.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of gary-melconian
Sent: May 13, 2018 11:29 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Firefox 60

In chrome there is a button called chrome store, launch it and  type 
accessibility and all kinds of wonderful accessibility extensions are offered 
to you.  

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Justin Williams
Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2018 6:23 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Firefox 60

With chrome, where can I find the extentions?  I'd like to try chrome with JAWS.
 Justin

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of gary-melconian
Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2018 8:12 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Firefox 60

Search for captia on the chrome store and you will find it.its escaping me at 
the moment.  

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Tom Fairhurst
Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2018 4:32 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Firefox 60

I'm chiming in late here, but how do Chrome users solve captchas? I've heard of 
Captcha Be Gone.

-Original Message-
From: gary-melconian
Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2018 6:15 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Firefox 60

Have not used firefox ever since the massive changes that firefox did with 
57 and beyond.  I just  use chrome more then I used firefox versions.   As 
with chrome, there are all kinds of accessibility extensions and other 
extension that  makes my browsing a  pleasure on chrome where as on firefox its 
like going through sites  on a horse and buggy where as on chrome its like 
going through sites with a fast sports car.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2018 3:50 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Firefox 60

Aaron,

Thanks for posting your detailed rant. I, too, am enormously frustrated that 
browsing has become so time--consuming and sometimes unreliable. I'm constantly 
switching among three browsers and two versions of JAWS because different 
combinations work best with different websites, and even then some websites 
remain hard, if not impossible, to navigate. The other day, a certain website 
owner had taken steps to make everything accessible, only for me to install 
Firefox 60 and generate a host of new issues. No wonder some website designers 
get frustrated with accessibility obligations.

Developments on the Web seem to be moving faster than screenreader companies 
can keep up with. But I wonder why non-screenreader users aren't also 
encountering limitations with different browsers, since each seems to function 
differently.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of
Valiant8086
Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2018 3:20 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Firefox 60

Hi.


I switched to Firefox  60, found it still a bit lacking in performance, and 
switched back to Chrome. A site that makes it painfully clear which one is 
winning is amazon.com. Just doing a search for something and noticing how long 
pages need to appear and be readable, and how responsive navigation keys arrows 
and quick nav etc are. Firefox is almost back to what it was in 52, but not 
totally. I was under the impression it would run better than chrome but that 
hasn't been so for me.


Edge is reasonably quick loading pages and allowing me to begin arrowing on 
them, but the way it announces going in and out of regions and such is very 
verbose and I find it slows me down too much. I'm really a little annoyed at 
just how much it seems to be asking to have a really good browsing experience 
this day and age. Chrome doesn't have it all either, it can easily get messed 
up and start using all of your ram. I'm not having that problem myself luckily, 
but I have multiple friends that are, each of them on multiple computers too.


In any case, I'm not trying to convert you folks to Chrome or anything like 
that, guess I wanted to rant a little.



Cheers:
Aaron Spears, A.K.A. valiant8086. General Partner - Valiant Galaxy 

[JAWS-Users] Thunderbird Inbox Inquiry

[jyandt.martin]

Morning all.

I am having a bit of an issue with Thunderbird. While in my inbox, the most 
recent incoming email messages are from 3 months ago. I went into the trash and 
junk folders, but they are not there. Can anyone help me with this? I am using 
JAWS 2018 and Windows 10 on a Dell laptop. Thanks in advance.

Jerry
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Firefox 60

[sandy]

it's things like you folks are going through that make me glad I'm a pc 
novice


-Original Message- 
From: gary-melconian

Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2018 6:15 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Firefox 60

Have not used firefox ever since the massive changes that firefox did with 
57 and beyond.  I just  use chrome more then I used firefox versions.   As 
with chrome, there are all kinds of accessibility extensions and other 
extension that  makes my browsing a  pleasure on chrome where as on firefox 
its like going through sites  on a horse and buggy where as on chrome its 
like going through sites with a fast sports car.


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
Behalf Of Adrian Spratt

Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2018 3:50 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Firefox 60

Aaron,

Thanks for posting your detailed rant. I, too, am enormously frustrated that 
browsing has become so time--consuming and sometimes unreliable. I'm 
constantly switching among three browsers and two versions of JAWS because 
different combinations work best with different websites, and even then some 
websites remain hard, if not impossible, to navigate. The other day, a 
certain website owner had taken steps to make everything accessible, only 
for me to install Firefox 60 and generate a host of new issues. No wonder 
some website designers get frustrated with accessibility obligations.


Developments on the Web seem to be moving faster than screenreader companies 
can keep up with. But I wonder why non-screenreader users aren't also 
encountering limitations with different browsers, since each seems to 
function differently.


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of 
Valiant8086

Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2018 3:20 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Firefox 60

Hi.


I switched to Firefox  60, found it still a bit lacking in performance, and 
switched back to Chrome. A site that makes it painfully clear which one is 
winning is amazon.com. Just doing a search for something and noticing how 
long pages need to appear and be readable, and how responsive navigation 
keys arrows and quick nav etc are. Firefox is almost back to what it was in 
52, but not totally. I was under the impression it would run better than 
chrome but that hasn't been so for me.



Edge is reasonably quick loading pages and allowing me to begin arrowing on 
them, but the way it announces going in and out of regions and such is very 
verbose and I find it slows me down too much. I'm really a little annoyed at 
just how much it seems to be asking to have a really good browsing 
experience this day and age. Chrome doesn't have it all either, it can 
easily get messed up and start using all of your ram. I'm not having that 
problem myself luckily, but I have multiple friends that are, each of them 
on multiple computers too.



In any case, I'm not trying to convert you folks to Chrome or anything like 
that, guess I wanted to rant a little.




Cheers:
Aaron Spears, A.K.A. valiant8086. General Partner - Valiant Galaxy 
Associates "We make Very Good Audiogames for the blind community - 
http://valiantGalaxy.com;




On 5/11/2018 4:17 PM, Cristóbal wrote:

I wrote VFO with issues I was having with Jaws and Firefox 60 and Jaws
losing speech for a second or two when arrowing around a webpage.
Almost as if it was catching up with the keystrokes. Jaws wasn't slow
or sluggish per say as when it was moving around, it felt responsive,
but the speech silencing thing was getting annoying. That along with
an existing issue I've been having with Jaws just randomly losing
focus on any site and me having to maximize the window or tab or shift
plus tab to get focus back all the time made the user experience a 
frustrating one.

The response I got back was:
Thank you for contacting VFO ® Technical Support.  I have tried
Firefox 60 with the most recent version of JAWS® 2018 and have not
really found the issues you mention.  At times, I have found that
sometimes, when a Web site is still loading, it might get sluggish,
but if you give it a minute or 2, you can navigate just fine.  I just
spent about 5-10 minutes navigating a very resource-intensive Web site
and was actually very impressed with performance.  Therefore, I am not
sure this is a general issue but one that might be specific to your 
machine.


So, aside from me not waiting around a minute or two for every single
webpage to load when I didn't have to before, looks like I'm going to
have to call tech support so I can demonstrate for them these odd
speech pauses and whatnot. Don't know if I'll be able to do so anytime
soon as I work during the day, but anyway. I've gone back to V 52.X in the 
meantime.

Regarding the alerts, I was able to disable those with an about:config
tweek a while back. I'll have to dig around 

Re: [JAWS-Users] remembering web addresses

[David Whitehead]

1. Open Internet Explorer.
2. Alt+t=Tools
3. O=Internet Options
4. Under the Content tab, in the Autocomplete section, choose the Settings
button.
5. Within this window, you can select the fields in which you'd like to
store Autocomplete data by using the 
check boxes.
This action turns Autocomplete On or Off based on what boxes are checked.
6. Once you have made your selections, click OK.

       Statistics are like a bikini.  What they reveal is suggestive, but
what they conceal is vital.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of
Judy
Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2018 9:46 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] remembering web addresses

Hi, all,

 

Somehow I turned off the setting in IE that automatically types in website
addresses that you use a lot. Where in the internet options do I go to turn
that back on, or what do I do? Thanks. Using Windows 7 and Jaws 14 and IE
11.  Judy & Libby

 

 

 

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[JAWS-Users] Of Possible Interest Windows 10 Information

[Rebecca Lineberger]

For those who have access to Bookshare:

Windows 10 For Dummies

Andy Rathbone

2018

04/20/18

Windows 10 For Seniors For Dummies

Peter Weverka

2018

04/24/18

 

HTH.

Rebecca

Angels can fly because they take themselves lightly.

G. K. Chesterton

 

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Guide to windows 10 1803 by Jim Flusche?

[David Ferrin]

All I can tell you is that he is having some health issues at this time. 
Unfortunately that is all the information I have to share.


-Original Message- 
From: Michael Amaro

Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2018 9:14 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Guide to windows 10 1803 by Jim Flusche?

Hello Listers,

There used to be a gentleman By the name of Jim Flusche.  Every time a new 
version of windows 10 came up, he would put out ajaws users guide on how to 
use jaws with windows 10 accordingly.  The last one he did was on windows 10 
1709 I believe.  I haven't seen one for 1803.  Is he no longer doing them? 
I  found them very helpful.


Thanks

Michael

skype/email:

mikeam...@earthlink.net

iPhone email:

mikeam...@icloud.com

JFK"

What kind of peace do I mean? What kind of peace do we seek? Not a Pax 
Americana enforced on the world by American weapons of war. Not the peace of 
the grave or the security of the slave. I am talking about genuine peace, 
the kind of peace that makes life on earth worth living, the kind that 
enables men and nations to grow and to hope and to build a better life for 
their children--not merely peace for Americans but peace for all men and 
women--not merely peace in our time but peace for all time"

For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/



For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/

[JAWS-Users] Guide to windows 10 1803 by Jim Flusche?

[Michael Amaro]

Hello Listers,

There used to be a gentleman By the name of Jim Flusche.  Every time a new 
version of windows 10 came up, he would put out ajaws users guide on how to use 
jaws with windows 10 accordingly.  The last one he did was on windows 10 1709 I 
believe.  I haven't seen one for 1803.  Is he no longer doing them?  I  found 
them very helpful.

Thanks

Michael

skype/email:

mikeam...@earthlink.net

iPhone email:

mikeam...@icloud.com

JFK"

What kind of peace do I mean? What kind of peace do we seek? Not a Pax 
Americana enforced on the world by American weapons of war. Not the peace of 
the grave or the security of the slave. I am talking about genuine peace, the 
kind of peace that makes life on earth worth living, the kind that enables men 
and nations to grow and to hope and to build a better life for their 
children--not merely peace for Americans but peace for all men and women--not 
merely peace in our time but peace for all time"
For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/