Re: [JAWS-Users] auto nfl game pass renewal opt-out

[Dennis Long]

Did you ever get this resolved?

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Of leonard morris
Sent: Tuesday, July 3, 2018 10:17 PM
To: Jaws
Subject: [JAWS-Users] auto nfl game pass renewal opt-out

I am using the latest Jaws 2018. I received an email from NFL game pass 
regarding my subscription. To, opt out you can either go to your accout or go 
to a ticket form link within the email. I have  tried numerous times both ways 
with no success. I've tried with IE11, Chrome and Firefox. Is there a support 
email address I can write to opt out or a support phone number I can call to 
opt out. I do not want to be charged the $199 by the end of this month. Any 
help regarding this issue will be greatly appreciated. Thanks.

  
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Re: [JAWS-Users] sounds for MS Office 2013

[Dennis Long]

Try this.
https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=7015

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Behalf Of Bob Hicks
Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2018 2:13 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] sounds for MS Office 2013

I googled this topic and all I got were adds for MS office.  I didn't
readily see any offering for a free download for sounds to use in MS Office
2013.

 

I looked for sounds at alt F; options T; and, although I found a similar
multi page assortment of options, I could not find anything about sounds.
Any ideas?  thanks

 

Have a great day, 73

 

Bob Hicks, KC8CR

 

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Re: [JAWS-Users] using Edge with jaws

[Dennis Long]

Is this on the server?

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Of Kevin Lee
Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2018 9:03 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] using Edge with jaws

That’s because it’s not one document.  I broke up each section into it’s own 
document.  Don’t know anyone else but it’s easier on my ears when jaws doesn’t 
read a large document.

E-mail is golden!!!
Kevin Lee

From: David Ferrin
Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2018 5:08 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] using Edge with jaws

The list does not accept attachments, but I got the version from your one drive 
page. It's a big one folks, almost 7 KB. Truth be told zipped text files are 
never very large.

-Original Message-
From: Kevin Lee
Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2018 7:28 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] using Edge with jaws

I sent the zipped tutorial to the list one final time, and I think David will 
post it on the help page!

E-mail is golden!!!
Kevin Lee

From: Panagiotis Antonopoulos
Sent: Monday, July 16, 2018 11:08 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] using Edge with jaws

Hi all,
I did not receive any zip file of the edge tutorial. Am I missing something?
Greetings from Athens,
Takis

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Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2018 5:01 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] using Edge with jaws

Sure I’d like something I did on the help list, but I’m pretty sure the zip 
that I did is the one that includes the whole tutorial.

E-mail is golden!!!
Kevin Lee

From: Mike B.
Sent: Monday, July 16, 2018 6:38 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] using Edge with jaws

Hi Kevin,

I don't know if you read the owners message, but Mr. Ferrin would like to put 
your / David's tutorial up on the Jaws-Users website, but he needs your 
permission to do so.  Can he put it up on the servor?  Thanks mooy moocho.
Take Care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sent from my iBarstool.
If you can smile when things go wrong, you have someone in mind to blame.
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To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Monday, July 16, 2018 6:30 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] using Edge with jaws


This is a tutorial originally written by David More on how to use Edge with
NVDA and Narrator, I just modified it to include usage with jaws.  I tested
it and it works according to the tutorial.  This is a second post of it
because I didn’t do it correctly the first time!

https://1drv.ms/f/s!Aps5BdFqVPrc5g9Wd7OMddZwC5MD

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem opening links that are in some email messages

[Dennis Long]

I have no issue opening links from outlook2010 in internet explorer.

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Behalf Of Mike O'Brien
Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2018 12:58 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem opening links that are in some email
messages

Hi

Thank you very much for the reply.  Since those links open just fine in
Firefox, you may very well be correct about the age of Internet Explorer 11.
I was hoping for a resolution that would work for Internet explorer, but it
is what it is.

Thank you again.

Mike

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Behalf Of LeDon
Sent: Friday, July 13, 2018 03:28
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem opening links that are in some email
messages

The problem is that the URL of your link is to long for the older program.
You can use the application button and go up to get the URL and you will be
able to follow the link. The best answer is to use a newer program that will
handle the longer links

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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mike O'Brien
Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2018 2:01 PM
To: jaws-users-list
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Problem opening links that are in some email messages

Hi

Using Outlook 2010 under Windows 10 and Internet Explorer 11 as the default
browser and JAWS 2018 latest build, when I press enter on the links in some
email messages to open them, all I get is an error message that says
something like:

Unable to find URL for Tracker ID.

The links in those emails open fine if I change the default browser to
Firefox.  But I would rather keep Internet Explorer as my default browser
until Edge is working well with JAWS.

I have tried changing my default browser to Firefox and then back to
Internet explorer with no success.  I have also tried resetting Internet
Explorer settings, also with no success.

I will be sincerely grateful for any assistance.

Thank you in advance.

Mike



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Re: [JAWS-Users] internet explorer 11

[Dennis Long]

Interesting.  For grins I changed it to Google.com 
  Then I hit apply and ok closed the browser and reopened it it came up fine.  
I wonder if your security settings are too high or something?
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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Kevin Lee
Sent: Wednesday, July 4, 2018 8:42 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] internet explorer 11

Can I ask what your homepage is?
Mine is google, and it gives me a message can’t get to this page securely.  

E-mail is golden!!!
Kevin Lee

From: Dennis Long
Sent: Wednesday, July 4, 2018 3:43 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] internet explorer 11

I use IE for every day surfing and it works fine

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Of Kurt Miller
Sent: Tuesday, July 3, 2018 11:51 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] internet explorer 11

Kevin, I just got off of IE, was searching Amazon.
Kurt

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Of Kevin Lee
Sent: Tuesday, July 3, 2018 11:41 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] internet explorer 11

Has Microsoft retired IE?  I just tried to access the internet with IE and it’s 
pretty unusable, I get can’t reach this page But when I use Edge all is fine!

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Re: [JAWS-Users] internet explorer 11

[Dennis Long]

Sure
www.ixquick.com
it allows you all the functions of Google but your not tracked.

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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Kevin Lee
Sent: Wednesday, July 4, 2018 8:42 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] internet explorer 11

Can I ask what your homepage is?
Mine is google, and it gives me a message can’t get to this page securely.  

E-mail is golden!!!
Kevin Lee

From: Dennis Long
Sent: Wednesday, July 4, 2018 3:43 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] internet explorer 11

I use IE for every day surfing and it works fine

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Of Kurt Miller
Sent: Tuesday, July 3, 2018 11:51 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] internet explorer 11

Kevin, I just got off of IE, was searching Amazon.
Kurt

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Of Kevin Lee
Sent: Tuesday, July 3, 2018 11:41 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] internet explorer 11

Has Microsoft retired IE?  I just tried to access the internet with IE and it’s 
pretty unusable, I get can’t reach this page But when I use Edge all is fine!

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Re: [JAWS-Users] internet explorer 11

[Dennis Long]

I use IE for every day surfing and it works fine

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Of Kurt Miller
Sent: Tuesday, July 3, 2018 11:51 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] internet explorer 11

Kevin, I just got off of IE, was searching Amazon.
Kurt

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Of Kevin Lee
Sent: Tuesday, July 3, 2018 11:41 PM
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Subject: [JAWS-Users] internet explorer 11

Has Microsoft retired IE?  I just tried to access the internet with IE and it’s 
pretty unusable, I get can’t reach this page But when I use Edge all is fine!

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Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS volume and Eloquence

[Dennis Long]

Its under sound properitories of your output device  under hancements is one
place to look.

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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: Wednesday, July 4, 2018 2:01 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS volume and Eloquence

Hey Dennis.

What optimisation setting is this exactly that you're referring to? 

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From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of
Dennis Long
Sent: July 4, 2018 1:57 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS volume and Eloquence

I don't have that problem but I don't have the new thing checked in windows
to optimize volume or what ever it is.

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Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: Wednesday, July 4, 2018 12:46 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] JAWS volume and Eloquence

Hey everyone.

 

I'm using Windows 10 and JAWS 18. I recently switched back to the Eloquence
synth more-or-less full-time after using Vocalizer for a year. I'm quite
happy, except that I find the synth is too loud, relative to other sounds on
my system. There are no controls for volume in my JAWS options, so I went
into Windows volume mixer and turned it way down, to around 20%, which seems
a level I am happy with. Only thing is, now something strange and slightly
annoying is happening. If I don't use the voice for a little while, as in,
maybe ten seconds or more, when it starts up again, it is quite quiet, and
then gradually increases in volume. It's a small thing but I would kind of
like the volume to remain at a consistent level. I've tried experimenting
with volume levels in Windows to get the perfect balance, but it is
surprisingly difficult. In general I don't want JAWS or system sounds to
overwhelm things like media players, but everything always seems just a
little too loud or too quiet, and of course there are other factors one
always has to consider as well, such as the relative volumes of disparate
media files, which I am ok with as I'm not a fan of auto-normalisation and
such. This thing with JAWS trying to boost its own volume is strange though.


 

Any thoughts from the group?

 

 

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Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS volume and Eloquence

[Dennis Long]

I don't have that problem but I don't have the new thing checked in windows
to optimize volume or what ever it is.

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Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: Wednesday, July 4, 2018 12:46 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] JAWS volume and Eloquence

Hey everyone.

 

I'm using Windows 10 and JAWS 18. I recently switched back to the Eloquence
synth more-or-less full-time after using Vocalizer for a year. I'm quite
happy, except that I find the synth is too loud, relative to other sounds on
my system. There are no controls for volume in my JAWS options, so I went
into Windows volume mixer and turned it way down, to around 20%, which seems
a level I am happy with. Only thing is, now something strange and slightly
annoying is happening. If I don't use the voice for a little while, as in,
maybe ten seconds or more, when it starts up again, it is quite quiet, and
then gradually increases in volume. It's a small thing but I would kind of
like the volume to remain at a consistent level. I've tried experimenting
with volume levels in Windows to get the perfect balance, but it is
surprisingly difficult. In general I don't want JAWS or system sounds to
overwhelm things like media players, but everything always seems just a
little too loud or too quiet, and of course there are other factors one
always has to consider as well, such as the relative volumes of disparate
media files, which I am ok with as I'm not a fan of auto-normalisation and
such. This thing with JAWS trying to boost its own volume is strange though.


 

Any thoughts from the group?

 

 

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[JAWS-Users] jaws 2018 update for June

[Dennis Long]

Hi, has there been a Jaws 2018 update for June?  I know sometimes the check
for updates feature doesn't work right that's why I'm asking.

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Re: [JAWS-Users] vocalizer voices

[Dennis Long]

 Agree I plan on continuing to use what works best for me that is Jaws.

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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of rosecomb...@cox.net
Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2018 10:02 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] vocalizer voices

I can't stand any of them, they don't read punctuation the same as
Eloquence, times are expressed in longer less useful detail, and people who
put images in names don't read part of the time either.  Nathan could work
if I could actually control it like Eloquence, maybe but he does not do
graphics in names well.  Eloquence may be annoying for long periods but it
works as I am used to it working, punctuation set to some for most
applications, not having to hear a time as 12 hours 58 minutes ... 
If I am forced to use Vocalizer for everything, I might actually switch to
NVDA despite it not supporting my 12-year-old Focus 80 braille display I
bought myself.  It works great with JAWS but not at all with NVDA a program
I am glad is inexpensive for many but not one I really wish to migrate to on
a regular basis. 

Rose 

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From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of
net bat66
Sent: Monday, June 25, 2018 10:01 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] vocalizer voices

it also depends on weather you install the  full or compact version of the
voices.  they have different sampleing rates. so the full version would
sound better then the compact version.
i like the tom voice the best. the female voices are too basey.



-Original Message-
From: Orlando Enrique Fiol
Sent: Monday, June 25, 2018 9:50 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Good ole' Eloquence

I actually was loathed to give up my Dectalk Access 32, which I used with
Window-eyes until a few years ago. Since migrating to Jaws, I love the
Vocalizer voices for their high frequency clarity and hum-based phoneme
samples. Having compared the Vocalizer voices to Voiceware, Google TTS and
the latest Microsoft voices, none are as clear and crisp as Vocalizer. My
system does not lag at all with them, but I have 43 gigs of memory and a
solid state hard drive.

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Good ole' Eloquence

[Dennis Long]

I have no plans on switching to anything else.

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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Loy Green
Sent: Monday, June 25, 2018 12:42 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Good ole' Eloquence

I have tried a lot of the human sounding voices, but I still come back to
Eloquence.
  - Original Message - 
  From: net bat66 
  To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com 
  Sent: Monday, June 25, 2018 12:29 PM
  Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Good ole' Eloquence


  i dropped eloquence a long time ago.
  it makes me nervus and i couldn't stay on the computer for more then a
hour at 
  a time.
  no such problem with the human sounding voices.
  i don't need or want to listen to the voices at 400 words per second.
grin.
  people don't talk this way and my computer doesn't either.


  -Original Message- 
  From: JM Casey
  Sent: Monday, June 25, 2018 9:10 AM
  To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
  Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Good ole' Eloquence

  Yeah, that does make some sense. I always kind of wondered why people
really
  bothered with this nowadays unless they were doing serious audio
processing,
  but I can now see that in some cases it's a sensible solution.

  -Original Message-
  From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf
Of
  net bat66
  Sent: June 25, 2018 12:06 PM
  To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
  Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Good ole' Eloquence

  the computer might run faster if you are useing a dedicated plug in  e p c
i
  sound card instead of the onboard one.
  when you do this the sound card does all the sound processing not the
  computers c p u.


  -Original Message-
  From: JM Casey
  Sent: Monday, June 25, 2018 6:32 AM
  To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
  Subject: [JAWS-Users] Good ole' Eloquence

  Hey guys.



  After some thought, I decided to switch my primary synthesiser back to
  Eloquence. I must say, that JAWS is now acting a lot more like the robust
  and response screen-reader I would expect on such a relatively fast
machine.
  I spent the past year listening to a nice, mannered, human-sounding voice,
  but wondering why the devil my computer was being just as slow and clunky
at
  times as my XP machine was. Well, now I have the answer. Duh. These
  Vocalizer voices are resource-intensive and slow the machine down. Anybody
  else noticed this? I guess it's a foregone conclusion, but I just assumed
my
  machine would be able to handle it well. I think it'd be ok for reading,
but
  for all practical purposes, well, the trade in favour of performance is an
  obvious no-brainer.



  So, what synths does everyone use here, anyway? What are your thoughts on
  all the software synths out there nowadays? Curiosity question.



  Also, Eloquence - y'know, it's kind of good to have the old man back.





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Re: [JAWS-Users] interesting thoughts/finding about CPU speeds, temperature and JAWS

[Dennis Long]

Do you have a link for it?

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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Valiant8086
Sent: Monday, June 25, 2018 7:54 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] interesting thoughts/finding about CPU speeds,
temperature and JAWS

Hi.


CPUID's HW Monitor is quite screen reader friendly and will often report hdd
temps along with other temps for cpu and such, also may report fan speeds,
and may report power consumption.


No need to get hw monitor pro, just do the free one. You should have a zip
file when you download, just extract that to a folder and run hw monitor
64.exe or the other if you're on 32 bit windows.



Cheers:
Aaron Spears, A.K.A. valiant8086. General Partner - Valiant Galaxy
Associates "We make Very Good Audiogames for the blind community -
http://valiantGalaxy.com;



On 6/25/2018 9:28 AM, JM Casey wrote:
> Hey Dennis.
>
> I have three programmes on here that do this as part of their 
> function. None of them are 100% screen-reader friendly but they work 
> well enough. One thing I like about this WhySoSlow programme is that 
> it can save the information in an html report that you just read 
> afterwards. It lists all CPU temps but not HD as far as I know. The 
> guy who built this computer for me is really into this stuff and he 
> put a programme on here called CoreTemp that is a very detailed system 
> temperature monitor. It, unlike WhySoSlow, has info on hard disks. 
> This info is dependent on whether there are internal sensors in the 
> machine or not; I think most modern computers have them though. The 
> third programme is called Speedfan and it is supposed to be able to 
> directly control your system fans through software if they are plugged 
> into the motherboard and not directly into the power supply. This
programme is super complex and can poll a lot of data, and I can't make much
sense of it. Haha.
>
> Anyway, I have only been using it for a day, but I do recommend 
> WhysoSlow as it produces a straight-forward and relatively 
> easy-to-understand diagnostic report, and the software includes many 
> helpful links and documentation that you can access at every stage. 
> The company seems to produce some other useful utilities too, like a 
> programme called WhoCrashed that is supposed to analyse the infamous 
> "blue screens of death" and tell you what programme or driver is likely to
be causing them.
>
> With WhysoSlow, you have to use the JAWS cursor to access the 
> features, but it didn't take me long to get the hang of it.
>
>   
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List  On 
> Behalf Of Dennis Long
> Sent: June 25, 2018 4:12 AM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] interesting thoughts/finding about CPU 
> speeds, temperature and JAWS
>
> What programs are accessible that will say the temperatures of the 
> hard drive and your processors?
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] 
> On Behalf Of JM Casey
> Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2018 7:32 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: [JAWS-Users] interesting thoughts/finding about CPU speeds, 
> temperature and JAWS
>
> Hey everyone.
>
>   
>
> So, I am running an AMD with six processors rated at, apparently, 
> around
> 3500 MHZ. My system has 8 GB of Ram and is running Windows 10, 1803, 
> and JAWS 18. My preferred voice is the premium Daniel Vocalizer voice. 
> Yes, these specs are all relevant to the topic.
>
>   
>
> For some time now, I have noticed a certain tendency of my system to 
> lag, or lock up, for several seconds at a time. This only seems to 
> happen when JAWS is running. I'm aware that my choice to use this 
> synth does negatively affect JAWS response time, even on this 
> reasonably fast system. Anyway, the "freezes" seem to affect some 
> programmes more than others, but perhaps particularly Firefox and MS 
> Office products. Sometimes, alt-tabbing between open windows seems rather
sluggish.
>
>   
>
> Well, today I ran a utility from a company called Resplendent Software 
> called WhySoSlow. It's basically one of dozens of diagnostic software 
> tools available, that measures your computer's performance by 
> calculating various factors. It measures your CPU speed, memory load, 
> and the temperature of your CPUs using the sensors that modern PCs 
> have. The system was running at a cool 20-something celsius. It was 
> also running at less than half its advertised clockspeed, the 
> programme informed me, and suggested that my CPUs were being "throttled"
to conserve power.
>
>   
>
> Now, I'm aware that some of these third party u

Re: [JAWS-Users] Good ole' Eloquence

[Dennis Long]

I have never been impressed by the new better voices.  I used them to try
and quickly returned to eloquence.

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Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: Monday, June 25, 2018 9:33 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Good ole' Eloquence

Hey guys.

 

After some thought, I decided to switch my primary synthesiser back to
Eloquence. I must say, that JAWS is now acting a lot more like the robust
and response screen-reader I would expect on such a relatively fast machine.
I spent the past year listening to a nice, mannered, human-sounding voice,
but wondering why the devil my computer was being just as slow and clunky at
times as my XP machine was. Well, now I have the answer. Duh. These
Vocalizer voices are resource-intensive and slow the machine down. Anybody
else noticed this? I guess it's a foregone conclusion, but I just assumed my
machine would be able to handle it well. I think it'd be ok for reading, but
for all practical purposes, well, the trade in favour of performance is an
obvious no-brainer.

 

So, what synths does everyone use here, anyway? What are your thoughts on
all the software synths out there nowadays? Curiosity question.

 

Also, Eloquence - y'know, it's kind of good to have the old man back.

 

 

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Re: [JAWS-Users] interesting thoughts/finding about CPU speeds, temperature and JAWS

[Dennis Long]

What programs are accessible that will say the temperatures of the hard
drive and your processors?

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Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2018 7:32 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] interesting thoughts/finding about CPU speeds,
temperature and JAWS

Hey everyone.

 

So, I am running an AMD with six processors rated at, apparently, around
3500 MHZ. My system has 8 GB of Ram and is running Windows 10, 1803, and
JAWS 18. My preferred voice is the premium Daniel Vocalizer voice. Yes,
these specs are all relevant to the topic.

 

For some time now, I have noticed a certain tendency of my system to lag, or
lock up, for several seconds at a time. This only seems to happen when JAWS
is running. I'm aware that my choice to use this synth does negatively
affect JAWS response time, even on this reasonably fast system. Anyway, the
"freezes" seem to affect some programmes more than others, but perhaps
particularly Firefox and MS Office products. Sometimes, alt-tabbing between
open windows seems rather sluggish.

 

Well, today I ran a utility from a company called Resplendent Software
called WhySoSlow. It's basically one of dozens of diagnostic software tools
available, that measures your computer's performance by calculating various
factors. It measures your CPU speed, memory load, and the temperature of
your CPUs using the sensors that modern PCs have. The system was running at
a cool 20-something celsius. It was also running at less than half its
advertised clockspeed, the programme informed me, and suggested that my CPUs
were being "throttled" to conserve power. 

 

Now, I'm aware that some of these third party utilities measure specs in
weird ways, or make strange and not always advisable recommendations. I've
completely gone off using registry cleaners or any such tools for this
reason. I'm also aware that modern CPUs can "clock up" when the load on them
becomes particularly intensive, but I don't know how well Windows for
instance actually manages this feature. However, I decided to try a little
experiment. I remembered fiddling a bit with the power settings in Windows
10 previously, but not to any great extent - mostly just to prevent my
computer from "going to sleep" when left unattended. In the "power plan"
settings within power options, I adjusted the power plan from "balanced", to
"optimise for performance", to see if it would make a difference.

 

I then ran WhySoSlow again. My computer is now operating at peak processor
speed, all of the time. I suppose it's also using a hell of a lot more
power, which might not be a good thing. It's also not "running cool"
anymore. In fact, the CPU temperature has doubled all across the board,
reaching as high as 65 C, according to this programme (even higher according
to the coretemp utility).

 

However - JAWS is now behaving much more responsively. I haven't had any
freezes. Alt-tab cycles between programmes nearly instantaneously, and
Firefox seems much faster.

 

I don't really have a question for the list. I just thought this was kind of
an interesting thing to share, and wondered if anyone else had observed
anything similar. It is a fact that with my current setup I am normally at a
speed disadvantage when placed against sighted users. This is, I believe, in
part because JAWS is somewhat resource-intensive, especially using this type
of synthesiser (yes, I have considered switching back to Eloquence). I'm not
sure if I ought to keep my setup this way. I don't particularly want a
really high power bill and I don't want my computer to overheat, though in
theory the automatic cutoffs should engage before anything really bad
happens. I actually think it's nice that Windows includes power saving
features, but not necessarily at the expense of system performance.

 

 

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[JAWS-Users] puran utilities help needed

[Dennis Long]

Hi, I found an accessible thing to C cleaner its Puran utilities.  Here is
what I need help with.

Hi, where do you get the set files to automatically do what you want?  I'm
wanting one  that will automatically delete browser history  when it closes.
Thanks for the help.

 

 

 

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[JAWS-Users] accessible program needed that will automatically clean cookies from browsers when exiting

[Dennis Long]

Hi, it seems CCleaner is not accessible anymore.  I need a program that is
accessible with Jaws that will automatically delete cookies and form data
from browsers when the browser is closed.  Please.  Thank you for your help.

 

 

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[JAWS-Users] how to export book marks from firefox 52

[Dennis Long]

Hi, I want to export my book marks how do I do this?

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Freedom Scientific partners with Computers for the Blind to give the best computing experience to those who need it - Freedom Scientific Blog

[Dennis Long]

Very true good job fs thank you. Why I have jaws I am thanking you for all 
those you will help.

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On June 11, 2018 2:15:26 PM Cristóbal  wrote:

> This is pretty cool. For those of us who already have Jaws, probably not a
> big deal, but still. The more who are able to get access to a quality
> screen reader, then better.
>
> And yes, I am aware of NVDA.
>
> Ive helped a VI low-income friend get a machine from this organization in
> the past. They do good work.
>
> Once you get past the initial purchase of Jaws, if you price out the SMAs,
> its basically a $5.00 monthly subscription anyway. 
>
> http://blog.freedomscientific.com/cftb/ 
>
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Invisible screen

[Dennis Long]

Unfortunately the screen shade won't work on win7.  Do I think it should be 
able to yes.  But that isn't the case.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Leonard Morris
Sent: Friday, June 8, 2018 8:29 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Invisible screen

I apologize for not indicating that I’m using windows 7 64 bit and jaws 2018.

Every country has an identity, history, custom, and culture. It’s a unique 
landscape in determining how its people Live, work, and play.

> On Jun 9, 2018, at 1:39 AM, Mike B.  wrote:
> 
> Hi Leonard,
> 
> If you're running Windows 10 & Jaws 2018 there's a feature called, 
> Screen Shade, which darkens the screen so others can't see it.  This 
> feature uses a layered keystroke. The keystroke  for the desktop layout is:
> Insert / Jaws key & Spacebar, let-up then press, the Print Screen button. 
> This is a toggle keystroke, so it will turn the Screen Shade feature 
> on & off.
> Take Care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
> Sent from my iBarstool.
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: Paul Mugambi
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2018 10:50 PM
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Invisible screen
> 
> 
> if you are using windows 10 and JAWS 2018 press jaws keys plus space 
> bar and followed by f11 and use it again to turn the screen on.
> cheers  very easy
> 
>> On 6/8/18, Leonard Morris  wrote:
>> I have a maybe dumb question? How should I make my laptop screen 
>> completely dark? I need to type a private letter because I don't want 
>> a sighted person looking at the screen. Thanks.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> "Every country has an idenity, history, customs,  and culture. It's a 
>> unique landscape in determining how its people live, work and play.
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> 
> 
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> 
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> 
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> 
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> 
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Re: [JAWS-Users] how do you check for updates

[Dennis Long]

Insert J go to help and check for updates.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of richard kurlander
Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2018 12:32 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] how do you check for updates

how do you check for updates when you are in jaws/?


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Video Chat?

[Dennis Long]

Is zoom accessible?

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of wayne smith
Sent: Sunday, May 27, 2018 2:35 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Video Chat?

Thanks

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: Saturday, May 26, 2018 12:01 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Video Chat?

You can do this with zoom. The only issue I really have is that the chat box
won't automatically speak text input by the other person. But you can also
chat via audio. There are keyboard commands for everything. Go to
http://www.zoom.us and download the client.



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of wayne smith
Sent: May 24, 2018 9:43 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Video Chat?

Hello all- I need to have a  business call and the other party wants to see
what is on my screen. She is asking me to set up a video chat.  I have never
attempted this before so can somebody tell me if it is possible? I am using
Windows 7 64bit and JAWS 15. I have JAWS 17 on another machine if that would
make a difference.

 

Thanks,

 

Wayne

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[JAWS-Users] help needed with a website please

[Dennis Long]

Hi, I want to use chrome as my browser if I go to this site with any other
browser it plays with chrome it won't play unless you put the mouse on the
player and hit the play button.  I know I could use two browsers I'm trying
not to. any help is appreciated.

www.fox2detroit.com/live1

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Re: [JAWS-Users] mp3 gain crashing jaws

[Dennis Long]

Try saying mp3 gain worked on a previous version on windows.  Its in
compatibility settings.

-Original Message-
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Behalf Of Michael Amaro
Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2018 4:58 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] mp3 gain crashing jaws

Hello Listers,

Every time I try and use mp3gain and jaws 2018 on my windows 10 1803 64 bit
desktop, jaws crashes.  I have to manually reload it.  Can some one please
help?

Thanks

Michael

skype/email:

mikeam...@earthlink.net

iPhone email:

mikeam...@icloud.com

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Americana enforced on the world by American weapons of war. Not the peace of
the grave or the security of the slave. I am talking about genuine peace,
the kind of peace that makes life on earth worth living, the kind that
enables men and nations to grow and to hope and to build a better life for
their children--not merely peace for Americans but peace for all men and
women--not merely peace in our time but peace for all time"
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Re: [JAWS-Users] unable to add to cart

[Dennis Long]

Using Firefox 52  I went to
amymyersmd.com I was using latest jaws it worked just fine to add to cart.
The add to cart button is right below the combo box to select amount.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Steve
Sent: Monday, May 21, 2018 4:18 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] unable to add to cart

Ok, I didn't try the first site, but the AmyMyersMd.com site, I did.

Initially, I could not get it to add items to the cart with either IE11 on
Google Chrome version 66 on my PC.

But, I did discover a workaround with Chrome (I didn't try it with IE11):

When you search for an item and bring up the descripption, there is a
combobox to select the quantity.
I think the default is one, just make sure it is some whole number and not
zero.

Now, the workaround:
I used the Jaws OCR feature to read the Window.  As I read down through the
text (I have it set to the default where the things it recognizes are at a
slightly lower pitch); when I got to the AddToCart button, I left-clicked it
with the slash key on the numpad.

It added the item to the cart and gave me a checkout button.

HTH,
Steve
Lansing, MI

- Original Message -
From: "Judy" 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2018 1:23 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] unable to add to cart


> Steve, they were two sites one called Seeking Health.com and the other
> amymyersmd.com. I am trying to buy supplements from them. I tried IE,
> Firefox and Chrome and none worked. It is possible to call these places 
> and
> order over the phone which is what I'll have to do tomorrow, but it is 
> just
> wrong that I can't do it online. I have an older Jaws, but from what 
> people
> have written, that's not the problem. I do have NVDA downloaded and 
> honestly
> didn't think to try it. But for me it is just too aggrevating to have to 
> go
> through all these various browsers, screen readers, etc to accomplish a
> simple task of putting something in a cart. Thanks. Judy & Libby
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
> Behalf Of Steve
> Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2018 1:12 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] unable to add to cart
>
> Which site were you trying to purchase from, and which browser versions 
> did
> you try?
>
> I know Google Chrome worked for me on some sites whee IE didn't, but I
> couldn't get Google Chrome to work with versions of Jaws earlier than 17.
>
> Second question, as an assistive tech trainer, I often advise my clients 
> to
> have at least a demo of other screen-readers in their back pockets, as 
> there
>
> are instances when one will not work while another will.
>
> Steve
> Lansing, MI
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Judy" 
> To: 
> Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2018 10:30 PM
> Subject: [JAWS-Users] unable to add to cart
>
>
>> Just a comment about the fact that I just went to two different websites
>> to
>> purchase items and in both of them I was unable to add the item to my
>> cart.
>> I am so sick of this. I can look it up and find it, but then can't get
>> anything to work to add to the cart. I tried three browsers and none of
>> them
>> worked. I know my jaws is old, jaws 14, but honestly shouldn't something
>> work? Any ideas are appreciated. I know homicide is out! Judy & Libby
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [JAWS-Users] unable to add to cart

[Dennis Long]

I use 2018 just fine.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Gerald Levy 
Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2018 12:32 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] unable to add to cart



I just placed an order on Amazon last week using JAWS 16, and had no problem
finding and activating the add to shopping cart button.

Gerald



-Original Message-
From: Holger Fiallo
Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2018 11:30 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] unable to add to cart

noticing the same issue with amazon.com I tried to purchase something but
could not find any button to add to card. I did insert key and f7. Did not
work. Using IE 11, jaws 2018 and W10 april.

-Original Message-
From: Dave...Oregonian
Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2018 10:25 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] unable to add to cart

Gerald,

The presence of variable will depend on what you are ordering. I selected a
DIY frame, and a combo list was presented with a style type to pick. But
regardless, I was not able to work the buttons after that.

But I did see a thread on the JFW list with a similar issue in selecting
something on the screen. Here is that solution:

To select the tick box with JAWS, simply press the bypass key, JAWS key+3
then space bar.  This will tick it.

Give that  a try and let us know.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


- Original Message -
From: "Gerald Levy " 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2018 08:11
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] unable to add to cart



On Hollar.com, there are no variables.  There are no elements other than the
quantity edit field which is set to 1 by default and the add to shopping
cart button.  You enter the quantity of the item you want if if it is more
than 1 and click on the button to add it to your cart.  But no keystroke
will activate it with JAWS or any other screen reader.

Gerald



-Original Message- 
From: Dave...Oregonian
Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2018 10:41 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] unable to add to cart

I'm speculating that in the case where you cannot press the "Add to Cart
Button" there is some other element (checkbox, combo box, editable combo
box, edit field) that needs to be used/selected before the button will
activate. For a simple example, if the quantity edit field is blank, then a
number needs first to be entered. In other cases, I've seen where a size or
a color choice must first be selected before the button can be activated.
There are so many variables in a simple shopping app that is dependent on
the item itself, that it's hard to pin down a specific problem related to
JAWS.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


- Original Message - 
From: "sandy" 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2018 06:56
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] unable to add to cart


this also happens to me at times, but it's when the purchase is a button

-Original Message- 
From: T. Civitello
Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2018 11:11 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] unable to add to cart

At times when this happens I find that using the Jaws links menu will work.
Insert plus F7, arrow to the link if necessary and tab down to activate link
and press enter. Could be I am all wet but it's worth a try.  Tom

-Original Message- 
From: Judy
Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2018 7:30 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] unable to add to cart

Just a comment about the fact that I just went to two different websites to
purchase items and in both of them I was unable to add the item to my cart.
I am so sick of this. I can look it up and find it, but then can't get
anything to work to add to the cart. I tried three browsers and none of them
worked. I know my jaws is old, jaws 14, but honestly shouldn't something
work? Any ideas are appreciated. I know homicide is out! Judy & Libby







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Re: [JAWS-Users] Shade Screen

[Dennis Long]

You might not be doing it quickly enough.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Sadam Ahmed
Sent: Monday, May 14, 2018 11:14 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Shade Screen

That's very strange.


Mine says on or off when I press that key stroke.



On 15/05/2018 12:44 PM, cheez wrote:
> I just get a couple of blips when I do it.  JAWS says nothing.
>
> Vince
>
> - Original Message - From: "Sadam Ahmed" 
> 
> To: 
> Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2018 9:41 PM
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Shade Screen
>
>
>> No, it just says off or on.
>>
>>
>> On 14/05/2018 1:50 PM, cheez wrote:
>>> Isn't JAWS supposed to say, "Shade screen," when you press insert, 
>>> spacebar, and then print screen?  or am I doing the wrong keystrokes?
>>>
>>> Vince
>>> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
>>> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
>>
>> --
>> Yours sincerely,
>>
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>>
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>>FaceTime, iMessage & email
>>
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>>
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Firefox 60

[Dennis Long]

Do not use that service!  The support when there is a problem is poor to 
nonexistent.  I contacted the developer through the information he could hear 
me just fine until I said there is a problem then I got what ? what? And hung 
up on.  He never returned calls or emails.  I use  Rumola. 

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Tom Fairhurst
Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2018 7:32 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Firefox 60

I'm chiming in late here, but how do Chrome users solve captchas? I've heard of 
Captcha Be Gone.

-Original Message-
From: gary-melconian
Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2018 6:15 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Firefox 60

Have not used firefox ever since the massive changes that firefox did with 
57 and beyond.  I just  use chrome more then I used firefox versions.   As 
with chrome, there are all kinds of accessibility extensions and other 
extension that  makes my browsing a  pleasure on chrome where as on firefox its 
like going through sites  on a horse and buggy where as on chrome its like 
going through sites with a fast sports car.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2018 3:50 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Firefox 60

Aaron,

Thanks for posting your detailed rant. I, too, am enormously frustrated that 
browsing has become so time--consuming and sometimes unreliable. I'm constantly 
switching among three browsers and two versions of JAWS because different 
combinations work best with different websites, and even then some websites 
remain hard, if not impossible, to navigate. The other day, a certain website 
owner had taken steps to make everything accessible, only for me to install 
Firefox 60 and generate a host of new issues. No wonder some website designers 
get frustrated with accessibility obligations.

Developments on the Web seem to be moving faster than screenreader companies 
can keep up with. But I wonder why non-screenreader users aren't also 
encountering limitations with different browsers, since each seems to function 
differently.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of
Valiant8086
Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2018 3:20 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Firefox 60

Hi.


I switched to Firefox  60, found it still a bit lacking in performance, and 
switched back to Chrome. A site that makes it painfully clear which one is 
winning is amazon.com. Just doing a search for something and noticing how long 
pages need to appear and be readable, and how responsive navigation keys arrows 
and quick nav etc are. Firefox is almost back to what it was in 52, but not 
totally. I was under the impression it would run better than chrome but that 
hasn't been so for me.


Edge is reasonably quick loading pages and allowing me to begin arrowing on 
them, but the way it announces going in and out of regions and such is very 
verbose and I find it slows me down too much. I'm really a little annoyed at 
just how much it seems to be asking to have a really good browsing experience 
this day and age. Chrome doesn't have it all either, it can easily get messed 
up and start using all of your ram. I'm not having that problem myself luckily, 
but I have multiple friends that are, each of them on multiple computers too.


In any case, I'm not trying to convert you folks to Chrome or anything like 
that, guess I wanted to rant a little.



Cheers:
Aaron Spears, A.K.A. valiant8086. General Partner - Valiant Galaxy 
Associates "We make Very Good Audiogames for the blind community - 
http://valiantGalaxy.com;



On 5/11/2018 4:17 PM, Cristóbal wrote:
> I wrote VFO with issues I was having with Jaws and Firefox 60 and Jaws
> losing speech for a second or two when arrowing around a webpage.
> Almost as if it was catching up with the keystrokes. Jaws wasn't slow
> or sluggish per say as when it was moving around, it felt responsive,
> but the speech silencing thing was getting annoying. That along with
> an existing issue I've been having with Jaws just randomly losing
> focus on any site and me having to maximize the window or tab or shift
> plus tab to get focus back all the time made the user experience a 
> frustrating one.
> The response I got back was:
> Thank you for contacting VFO ® Technical Support.  I have tried
> Firefox 60 with the most recent version of JAWS® 2018 and have not
> really found the issues you mention.  At times, I have found that
> sometimes, when a Web site is still loading, it might get sluggish,
> but if you give it a minute or 2, you can navigate just fine.  I just
> spent about 5-10 minutes navigating a very resource-intensive Web site
> and was actually very impressed with performance.  Therefore, I am not

Re: [JAWS-Users] Firefox 60

[Dennis Long]

I would appreciate it if anyone knows of ideas.  Is there any to get in
touch with firefox support?

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2018 2:29 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Firefox 60

Not for Firefox Quantum, as far as I understand. I don't use so I haven't
looked into it really, but it was being discussed elsewhere. Maybe someone
else on-list can suggest an alternative if you want to use navigational
sounds.



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Dennis Long
Sent: May 13, 2018 9:54 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Firefox 60

Is there a addon for firefox 60 that does what navigational sounds  does?
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of james_hoo...@earthlink.net
Sent: Saturday, May 12, 2018 4:51 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Firefox 60

Yes could I get a copy?

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List <jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com> On Behalf Of
gary-melconian
Sent: Friday, May 11, 2018 4:59 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Firefox 60

I have a 64 bit 52.8 ESR if someone needs it. Since my systems have more
then 4GB on them.  

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Cristóbal
Sent: Friday, May 11, 2018 3:33 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Firefox 60

I still had a 52.X ESR installer on my system. SO I just uninstalled V60,
ran the 52.X installer and updated to the most current one capable with the
older version and am now am on Firefox Version 52.8.0. The same one I was on
before trying the Quantum or whatever it's called.
The other issue I was having with Firefox 60 and Jaws on The Old Reader: 
This is what I sent VFO:
I am noticing with the latest Firefox 60 (ESR and standard version) when
browsing down my list of RSS posts. Be it in a particular feed’s entries, a
folder created by me or even in the all posts view, when I click enter or
press the spacebar to expand that particular entry to show the summary (this
is in list view. Not full view) and then later wish to do the same for
another RSS entry, Jaws doesn’t appear to be able to accomplish this second
task.
I’ve tried using the Jaws cursor, maximizing the window and then pressing
enter or spacebar, tabbing to be sure Jaws focus isn’t somewhere else, but
nothing seems to work. It’s basically pick one RSS entry and that’s it. The
only thing I can do to be able to select another RSS entry to view is do an
entire page refresh. Which isn’t a solution as once the refresh occurs, all
previously unread posts are marked as read.
In my case, The Older Reader is marked as my home page and I refer to it all
the time. So this one bug is proving to be quite disruptive. I don’t know if
it has something to do with a virtual buffer focus or some other element,
but I am not able to figure it out on my end. To be clear, this particular
behavior is not present in prior versions of Firefox. I have been using the
V 52.x ESR version before upgrading to v60 without this issue present.
So anyway, in the same email response I pasted below, I got this note from
the same tech:
Also, I did see your other e-mail in which you mentioned a specific Web
site.  I did look at that Web site, but I found that it requires signing up
for an account to see the issues.  If you could provide us with a site with
these issues that does not require signing up for an account, that would be
very helpful.

Ok... but as I specifically mentioned this website, it kind of defeats the
purpose...
Again, probably one of those things I'd have to call in to better
demonstrate the exact problem, but I'm busy throughout the day and always on
the phone, doubt I'd be able to do it any time soon.
This is why I figured in part to just go back to V 52 and maybe wait for
another Jaws or Firefox release with hopefully some more improvements. I've
waited a few months, what's a couple of more weeks...
As long as you don't mess with your profile on your system, then
uninstalling and reinstalling any version of Firefox shouldn't be a big
deal. That said, standard caveats of backing up and all that apply. Also, I
do have a Firefox account for easier browser syncing between multiple PCs
and my iPhone so there's that too.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Friday, May 11, 2018 1:59 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Firefox 60

How did you revert to 52ESR? By uninstalling 60 and reinstalling 52ESR? I'm
hoping it was something else. I'd love to get 52ESR back with my settings
intact. meanwhile, 

Re: [JAWS-Users] Firefox 60

[Dennis Long]

Is there a addon for firefox 60 that does what navigational sounds  does?
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of james_hoo...@earthlink.net
Sent: Saturday, May 12, 2018 4:51 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Firefox 60

Yes could I get a copy?

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of
gary-melconian
Sent: Friday, May 11, 2018 4:59 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Firefox 60

I have a 64 bit 52.8 ESR if someone needs it. Since my systems have more
then 4GB on them.  

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Cristóbal
Sent: Friday, May 11, 2018 3:33 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Firefox 60

I still had a 52.X ESR installer on my system. SO I just uninstalled V60,
ran the 52.X installer and updated to the most current one capable with the
older version and am now am on Firefox Version 52.8.0. The same one I was on
before trying the Quantum or whatever it's called.
The other issue I was having with Firefox 60 and Jaws on The Old Reader: 
This is what I sent VFO:
I am noticing with the latest Firefox 60 (ESR and standard version) when
browsing down my list of RSS posts. Be it in a particular feed’s entries, a
folder created by me or even in the all posts view, when I click enter or
press the spacebar to expand that particular entry to show the summary (this
is in list view. Not full view) and then later wish to do the same for
another RSS entry, Jaws doesn’t appear to be able to accomplish this second
task.
I’ve tried using the Jaws cursor, maximizing the window and then pressing
enter or spacebar, tabbing to be sure Jaws focus isn’t somewhere else, but
nothing seems to work. It’s basically pick one RSS entry and that’s it. The
only thing I can do to be able to select another RSS entry to view is do an
entire page refresh. Which isn’t a solution as once the refresh occurs, all
previously unread posts are marked as read.
In my case, The Older Reader is marked as my home page and I refer to it all
the time. So this one bug is proving to be quite disruptive. I don’t know if
it has something to do with a virtual buffer focus or some other element,
but I am not able to figure it out on my end. To be clear, this particular
behavior is not present in prior versions of Firefox. I have been using the
V 52.x ESR version before upgrading to v60 without this issue present.
So anyway, in the same email response I pasted below, I got this note from
the same tech:
Also, I did see your other e-mail in which you mentioned a specific Web
site.  I did look at that Web site, but I found that it requires signing up
for an account to see the issues.  If you could provide us with a site with
these issues that does not require signing up for an account, that would be
very helpful.

Ok... but as I specifically mentioned this website, it kind of defeats the
purpose...
Again, probably one of those things I'd have to call in to better
demonstrate the exact problem, but I'm busy throughout the day and always on
the phone, doubt I'd be able to do it any time soon.
This is why I figured in part to just go back to V 52 and maybe wait for
another Jaws or Firefox release with hopefully some more improvements. I've
waited a few months, what's a couple of more weeks...
As long as you don't mess with your profile on your system, then
uninstalling and reinstalling any version of Firefox shouldn't be a big
deal. That said, standard caveats of backing up and all that apply. Also, I
do have a Firefox account for easier browser syncing between multiple PCs
and my iPhone so there's that too.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Friday, May 11, 2018 1:59 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Firefox 60

How did you revert to 52ESR? By uninstalling 60 and reinstalling 52ESR? I'm
hoping it was something else. I'd love to get 52ESR back with my settings
intact. meanwhile, I urge everyone else having problems with Firefox 60 to
contact VFO because otherwise they'll stall, the way they still stall on
making crucial 2018 fixes. But be sure you're using the current release of
2018 when you report Firefox 60 problems. Apparently, this release is
required for compatibility.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of
Cristóbal
Sent: Friday, May 11, 2018 4:18 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Firefox 60

I wrote VFO with issues I was having with Jaws and Firefox 60 and Jaws
losing speech for a second or two when arrowing around a webpage. Almost as
if it was catching up with the keystrokes. Jaws wasn't slow or sluggish per
say as when it was moving around, it felt 

Re: [JAWS-Users] re firerofx 60esr

[Dennis Long]

Does the add-on Navigational sounds work in Firefox 60?

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Cristóbal
Sent: Wednesday, May 9, 2018 11:55 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] re firerofx 60esr

So for full disclosure, I got my The Old reader issues I mentioned sorted
out. 
Turns out, the problem was No Script disabling javascript which was
basically breaking the internet for me. Once I disabled NoScript, That
particular page and others I was dealing with were fine. I guess I have to
go into No Script to play around with the settings a bit more. 
I did for whatever reason have a  whole bunch of problems trying to get the
1Password extension properly installed and activated, but I eventually got
it to work too.
I suppose speed is fine, but more importantly, the browser just seems to
work now. 

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of gary-melconian
Sent: Wednesday, May 9, 2018 6:47 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] re firerofx 60esr

Hello just installed firefox 60 ESR.its pretty snappy at what it can do
wwith JAWS 2018.thanks to VFO jaws 2018 and firefox 60 are now coping happly
together.  

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Re: [JAWS-Users] help needed with a website and its video player please

[Dennis Long]

They actually made improvements this morning long story short it will be
muted by default that is why there is that link there for screen reader
users that will not be muted.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: Tuesday, May 8, 2018 3:14 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] help needed with a website and its video player
please

Hey Dennis.

Using Firefox 52 ESR, it's actually playing automatically for me. I had to
press ctrl-m to mute it so I could listen to JAWS and search around for the
video player frame. But, using JAWS 18,  I cannot seem to locate this. There
are some unlabeled buttons, but from what I can tell, they aren't for the
video player at all.

I noticed a link at the bottom of the page that says, "blind/screenreader
users, click here to view our live broadcast", or something like that. I
don't really know why this should make a difference. I mean, I clicked on
it, but the thing was playing anyway, and I still did not locate buttons to
adjust volume, mute/unmute, etc.

Now, since yours is not playing by default, and mine doesperhaps you
could try in a different browser, and see if you can at least get it to
play.
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Dennis Long
Sent: May 7, 2018 9:21 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] help needed with a website and its video player please
Importance: High

Hi, can anyone help please the website is

Fox2detroit.com/live

There is a player the stream is muted by default getting to this unmute
button is the problem.  Thanks for your help.

 

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[JAWS-Users] help needed with a website and its video player please

[Dennis Long]

Hi, can anyone help please the website is

Fox2detroit.com/live

There is a player the stream is muted by default getting to this unmute
button is the problem.  Thanks for your help.

 

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Re: [JAWS-Users] J18 Build Update, JAWS 18.0.5038, Download Links + What's New

[Dennis Long]

Why would there be?  You need jaws 2018 for that.  I wouldn't expect that.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: Friday, May 4, 2018 6:54 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] J18 Build Update, JAWS 18.0.5038, Download Links +
What's New

No support for Firefox Quantum eh? That's disappointing. 

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: May 4, 2018 4:52 PM
To: Jaws-Users List
Subject: [JAWS-Users] J18 Build Update, JAWS 18.0.5038, Download Links +
What's New

Hi All,

An update for J18 has been released.  Build JAWS 18.0.5038.  Below are the
download links plus what's new in this release.

32 Bit:

http://jaws18.vfo.digital/5038NVE32N/J18.0.5038.400-enu-x86.exe

64 Bit:

http://jaws18.vfo.digital/5038NVE32N/J18.0.5038.400-enu-x64.exe

Enhancements in JAWS 18.0.5038 (May 2018)

The following is a list of improvements made between the JAWS 18 December
2017 release and the May 2018 update.

list of 2 items
. Added dongle support for ZoomText 11 and updated JAWS 18 and Fusion 11 to
resolve issues with dongle use in the latest Windows 10 Spring Creators
Update.
. In Internet Explorer, addressed a reported issue where form labels were
being incorrectly associated with table headers in some situations.
list end

Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
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Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws and firefox quantum

[Dennis Long]

It will work with firefox version 60 which will come out in May or June.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Gerald Levy 
Sent: Wednesday, May 2, 2018 11:08 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws and firefox quantum


No, JAWS still does not work with Firefox 58 or higher, also known as
Firefox Quantum.  The most secure version of Firefox that works with JAWS is
Firefox 52 ESR.

Gerald



-Original Message-
From: Don Raikes
Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2018 11:02 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] jaws and firefox quantum

Hi,



Is there any version of jaws that works with the new firefox quantum?



I am interested in upgrading firefox to obtain any security updates, but I
remember hearing that there are problems with firefox quantum and jaws,
buthaven't heard if the issues have been fixed.



Any info would be appreciated.



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Re: [JAWS-Users] What Happened to CCleaner Slim Version?

[Dennis Long]

I don't go into the list of results.  I have mine automatically set to clean
when a browser closes

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Gerald Levy 
Sent: Wednesday, May 2, 2018 6:57 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] What Happened to CCleaner Slim Version?


I don't understand.  Mike D., one of the most knowledgeable members of this
list insists that CCleaner 5.42 is not JAWS accessible, yet you claim that 
you have no issues with it.  How can this be?

Gerald



-Original Message-
From: Dennis Long
Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2018 4:19 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] What Happened to CCleaner Slim Version?

I have no issues with 5.42

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Gerald Levy
Sent: Tuesday, May 1, 2018 6:47 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] What Happened to CCleaner Slim Version?


That's reassuring.  But Piriform has been known to play games with its
customers, and just because no unwanted software is installed along with
CCleaner 5.42 does not necessarily mean that Piriform won't again try to
sneak in unwanted software in a future release of CCleaner. And according to
the moderator of the Tech Talk list, CCleaner 5.42 may not be accessible.
Is this true?


Gerald



-Original Message-
From: Orlando Enrique Fiol
Sent: Monday, April 30, 2018 9:03 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] What Happened to CCleaner Slim Version?

Hi Gerald.
Yes, I can assure you that CCleaner 5.42 standard will install without any
third party software at all.
At 06:17 PM 4/30/2018, Gerald Levy wrote:
>
>So are you saying that you were able to download and install the
standard version of CCleaner 5.42 without any unwanted software like Avast
being installed along withit?
>
>Gerald


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Re: [JAWS-Users] What Happened to CCleaner Slim Version?

[Dennis Long]

I have no issues with 5.42

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Gerald Levy 
Sent: Tuesday, May 1, 2018 6:47 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] What Happened to CCleaner Slim Version?


That's reassuring.  But Piriform has been known to play games with its
customers, and just because no unwanted software is installed along with
CCleaner 5.42 does not necessarily mean that Piriform won't again try to
sneak in unwanted software in a future release of CCleaner. And according to
the moderator of the Tech Talk list, CCleaner 5.42 may not be accessible. 
Is this true?


Gerald



-Original Message-
From: Orlando Enrique Fiol
Sent: Monday, April 30, 2018 9:03 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] What Happened to CCleaner Slim Version?

Hi Gerald.
Yes, I can assure you that CCleaner 5.42 standard will install without any
third party software at all.
At 06:17 PM 4/30/2018, Gerald Levy wrote:
>
>So are you saying that you were able to download and install the
standard version of CCleaner 5.42 without any unwanted software like Avast
being installed along withit?
>
>Gerald


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Re: [JAWS-Users] High Importance E-mail

[Dennis Long]

There is no need to do that just press alt enter  arrow down  once and your 
there.  This works in 2010 as well as 2016.  Someone said that I forget who.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Fernando Gregoire
Sent: Tuesday, May 1, 2018 10:10 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] High Importance E-mail

Hi Tom,

The easiest way to add a keystroke for this is to add the item to the Quick 
Access Toolbar by opening a new message, finding in the Message tab the High 
Importance button, pressing APPLICATIONS or SHIFT+F10 and choosing Add to Quick 
Access Toolbar item. If you haven't added nor removed anything from the Quick 
Access Toolbar for the message editing window the High Importance button should 
be the fourth item, so it would be assigned to ALT+4.
Since ALT+NUMBER keystrokes are assigned in JAWS for reading Outlook message 
headers, you will have to press JAWS+3 before using the abobe mentioned 
keystroke.

Hope it helps!

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of Tom 
Behler
Sent: Tuesday, May 1, 2018 4:16 PM
To: 'Jaws users list' 
Subject: [JAWS-Users] High Importance E-mail

Hello, everyone.

 

Does anyone know of a key stroke for designating an e-mail as "high importance" 
in Outlook 2016?

 

I can get to the high importance designation via the menus, but would like a 
specific key stroke for doing this if that is available.

 

Am using the latest build of Jaws 2018 on a windows 7 laptop here.

 

Thanks as always!

 

Dr.  Tom Behler From Michigan

 

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Re: [JAWS-Users] is Skype accessible with Jaws2018?

[Dennis Long]

Ok so where do you find a accessible version and the scripts for that
version?

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Behalf Of HICKS, Steven (ROYAL CORNWALL HOSPITALS NHS TRUST)
Sent: Wednesday, May 2, 2018 2:55 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] is Skype accessible with Jaws2018?

7.4 is o.k. but the latest version 8 is rubbish in my opinion.


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Sent: 28 April 2018 08:00
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] is Skype accessible with Jaws2018?

Hi, is Skype accessible with Jaws?  Are there scripts if so where do you
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[JAWS-Users] in version 18.03 the slowness with alt tabbing and outlook issues appears to be fixed

[Dennis Long]

Hi, the Alt tabbing slowness appear to be fixed in version 18.03 as does the
outlook problem.

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Re: [JAWS-Users] still having issue with Outlook and HTML messages

[Dennis Long]

Even if it worked that doesn't fix the root problem.  It is a work around if
it work but the core problem needs to be fixed.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Monday, April 30, 2018 6:34 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] still having issue with Outlook and HTML messages

Why is it unacceptable? If a simple keystroke can solve a real annoyance,
I'm relieved. In fact, I use JAWS key+escape out of habit in all sorts of
situations, such as where edit fields fail to be detected by JAWS in
webpages.

However, it does not solve this particular email problem.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List <jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com> On Behalf Of
Dennis Long
Sent: Monday, April 30, 2018 6:19 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] still having issue with Outlook and HTML messages

They told me to press insert plus escape I wrote back that is unacceptable

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Cher Bosch
Sent: Monday, April 30, 2018 4:12 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] still having issue with Outlook and HTML messages

I don't like having the links killed. Here is what VFO wrote back today. I'm
trying out changing to running JAWS in the factory default mode.

Cher

Hello Cher,

Thank you for contacting VFOT Technical Support. Please ensure all Windows
updates, including Office updates, are installed and applied. If the issue
persists at that point, please try running JAWS in the factory default mode
to determine if the issue still occurs. To do this, press INSERT+SPACE
followed by Z. This keystroke is a toggle, so pressing it again will disable
default mode when finished.

If the issue does not occur when running JAWS in default mode, you will need
to remove user settings. To do this:
1. If using Windows 7:
A. Navigate to Start>All Programs>JAWS (version number)>Explore JAWS>Explore
My Settings.
B. Highlight all the files in this folder and delete them.
2. If using Windows 8 or above:
A. Navigate to your Start screen, type the word "utilities", and select the
Utilities option populated for the version number being used.
B. Select the option for Explore User Settings.
C. Highlight all files in this folder and delete them.

If the issue still occurs when running it in Default mode, please run a
/type repair on JAWS, as follows:

1. Navigate to the JAWS 2018 installer file. If you don't have it, you may
download it from http://www.freedomscientific.com/Downloads/JAWS
2. With the file highlighted, press SHIFT+F10, or hold down the SHIFT key
and right click it.
3. Select the option that says "Copy as Path".
4. Press WINDOWS+R to invoke the Run dialog.
5. In the edit field, press CTRL+V to paste the path, then a space at the
end of this string.
6. Write the following text exactly (excluding the quotes): "/type repair"
7. Press ENTER or click OK.
At the end of the repair, JAWS will prompt you to reboot the machine.

If this does not resolve the issue, set Outlook back to default views, as
follows:

1. Close Outlook.
2. Press WINDOWS+R to invoke the Run dialog.
3. In the edit field, type the following without the quotes "outlook.exe
/cleanviews".
4. Press ENTER.
5. If the issue persists, repeat steps 1 and 2 above.
6. In the edit field, type the following without the quotes "outlook.exe
/resetnavpane".
7. Press ENTER.

If your issue is still not resolved after having tried all suggestions
above, please call our Support hotline at (727)803-8600 for further
troubleshooting over the phone. We are available Monday-Friday from 8:30 AM
to 7:00 PM EST.



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Vicky Cardona JAWS & MAGic Certified
VFO Technical Support
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supp...@vfogroup.com
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From: Cher Bosch <oneagleswings1@bellsouthnet>
Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2018 2:09 PM
To: VFO Technical Support <supp...@vfo-group.com>
Subject: Outlook messages quitt reading properly

While reading through Outlook messages normally- then the next message opens
i

Re: [JAWS-Users] still having issue with Outlook and HTML messages

[Dennis Long]

They told me to press insert plus escape I wrote back that is unacceptable

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Cher Bosch
Sent: Monday, April 30, 2018 4:12 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] still having issue with Outlook and HTML messages

I don't like having the links killed. Here is what VFO wrote back today. I'm
trying out changing to running JAWS in the factory default mode.

Cher

Hello Cher,

Thank you for contacting VFOT Technical Support. Please ensure all Windows
updates, including Office updates, are installed and applied. If the issue
persists at that point, please try running JAWS in the factory default mode
to determine if the issue still occurs. To do this, press INSERT+SPACE
followed by Z. This keystroke is a toggle, so pressing it again will disable
default mode when finished.

If the issue does not occur when running JAWS in default mode, you will need
to remove user settings. To do this:
1. If using Windows 7:
A. Navigate to Start>All Programs>JAWS (version number)>Explore JAWS>Explore
My Settings.
B. Highlight all the files in this folder and delete them.
2. If using Windows 8 or above:
A. Navigate to your Start screen, type the word "utilities", and select the
Utilities option populated for the version number being used.
B. Select the option for Explore User Settings.
C. Highlight all files in this folder and delete them.

If the issue still occurs when running it in Default mode, please run a
/type repair on JAWS, as follows:

1. Navigate to the JAWS 2018 installer file. If you don't have it, you may
download it from http://www.freedomscientific.com/Downloads/JAWS
2. With the file highlighted, press SHIFT+F10, or hold down the SHIFT key
and right click it.
3. Select the option that says "Copy as Path".
4. Press WINDOWS+R to invoke the Run dialog.
5. In the edit field, press CTRL+V to paste the path, then a space at the
end of this string.
6. Write the following text exactly (excluding the quotes): "/type repair"
7. Press ENTER or click OK.
At the end of the repair, JAWS will prompt you to reboot the machine.

If this does not resolve the issue, set Outlook back to default views, as
follows:

1. Close Outlook.
2. Press WINDOWS+R to invoke the Run dialog.
3. In the edit field, type the following without the quotes "outlook.exe
/cleanviews".
4. Press ENTER.
5. If the issue persists, repeat steps 1 and 2 above.
6. In the edit field, type the following without the quotes "outlook.exe
/resetnavpane".
7. Press ENTER.

If your issue is still not resolved after having tried all suggestions
above, please call our Support hotline at (727)803-8600 for further
troubleshooting over the phone. We are available Monday-Friday from 8:30 AM
to 7:00 PM EST.



Note: If replying to this message, please be sure to include all previous
correspondence pertaining to this matter so that we can better assist you.

Kind Regards,

Vicky Cardona JAWS & MAGic Certified
VFO Technical Support
+1(727)803-8600
supp...@vfogroup.com
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From: Cher Bosch <oneagleswings1@bellsouthnet>
Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2018 2:09 PM
To: VFO Technical Support <supp...@vfo-group.com>
Subject: Outlook messages quitt reading properly

While reading through Outlook messages normally- then the next message opens
in a tables mode or something- such that all JAWS reads is table
announcements and co-ordinates if using the arrow keys to read the message.
Either JAWS or Outlook must be closed to resolve this. I have hoped to see
this fixed several versions ago and am continually disappointed.

This problem occurs in multiple versions of JAWS- including the latest 2018
April update- in multiple versions of Outlook and on both Win 7 and Win 10-
and is being experienced by many users.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Dennis Long
Sent: Monday, April 30, 2018 9:04 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] still having issue with Outlook and HTML messages

 Did that is there anyway when changing it to read email in plain text to
have it put you at the top of the message automatically?

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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@

Re: [JAWS-Users] What Happened to CCleaner Slim Version?

[Dennis Long]

It was in the release notes if you unchecked or removed I forget which one
it wouldn't ask you in future versions.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Monday, April 30, 2018 6:03 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] What Happened to CCleaner Slim Version?

Really helpful, and you gave me the confidence just now to download and
install the CCleaner update. One more note. Now, when you click the button
to upgrade from the program, the first page has two links near the bottom,
one saying "Yes" and the other "No." Click no to get past the business/pro
versions, and then on the next page you can safely use a download link.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of
Orlando Enrique Fiol
Sent: Monday, April 30, 2018 12:39 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] What Happened to CCleaner Slim Version?

Hi Gerald.
The CCleaner download page is somewhat counterintuitive. However, once you
activate one of the many download links, the standard installer will get
downloaded to your default downloads directory. 
Although CCleaner used to install Avast by default, there is good news.
First, using the Jaws cursor in the installer, you can uncheck the relevant
box. But better still, the last three versions of CCleaner standard did not
automatically install any third party software. The check box for Avast is
now absent.
At 07:11 AM 4/30/2018, Gerald Levy wrote:
 >
 >When I launched CCleaner this morning to clean up my hard drive, I was
>greeted with the message that a new version, 5.42, was available for
>download.  Normally, I download the slim version of CCleaner from the
>Builds page below, but when I went to this page, I could not find the
>slim version; only the standard and portable versions.  Does anyone  >know
what happened to the slim version of CCleaner?  Has it been  >discontinued?
I am reluctant to download the standard version because  >it will
automatically install Avast anti-virus surreptitiously, which  >is difficult
to impossible to remove without sighted help. I have  >Unchecky installed on
my computer, but there no longer seems to be a  >detectable check box on the
Standard installer interface which can be  >unchecked to prevent the
installation of Avast.  Is there any way to  >install the standardversion of
CCleaner without also installing Avast?
 > Or is there another site from where the slim version of CCleaner 5.42
>can be downloaded?



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Re: [JAWS-Users] still having issue with Outlook and HTML messages

[Dennis Long]

 Did that is there anyway when changing it to read email in plain text to
have it put you at the top of the message automatically?

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Dave...Oregonian
Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2018 9:25 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] still having issue with Outlook and HTML messages

Dennis,

Please then send a message to supp...@freedomscientific.com and complain.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


- Original Message - 
From: "Dennis Long" <dennisl1...@gmail.com>
To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2018 17:01
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] still having issue with Outlook and HTML messages


I have this issue as well.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2018 6:10 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] still having issue with Outlook and HTML messages

Yes, there are. I brought it to VFO's attention by email and on the phone a
month or two ago without getting any good answer or promises for a fix. As
Dave urged, I hope everyone experiencing it will notify VFO.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List <jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com> On Behalf Of
Cher Bosch
Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2018 6:00 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] still having issue with Outlook and HTML messages

Does it begin reading everything in tables mode? If so, there are probably a
lot of us who have your issue.

Cher



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of JOHN RIEHL
Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2018 10:39 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] still having issue with Outlook and HTML messages

Hi. I'm still having the vexing and annoying issue of the latest issue of
JAWS periodically changing how it reads Outlook messages (windows-7, Outlook
2010). JAWS will be doing a great job of reading a message, then, for no
apparent reason, when I bring up the next message, read all kinds of info:
"Table 1, row 1, nesting level 3." etc. I have to close Outlook and,
sometimes, JAWS and bring them back for JAWS and Outlook to function
normally again.

I'm doing nothing to cause this to happen except bringing up the next e-mail
message.

This does not happen with every message, but it is repeatable, in that if I
read e-mail long enough it will, inevitably, happen.

Frankly, this is unacceptable. It would be helpful if the VFO folks who
monitor this list could at least acknowledge the problem. I'm happy to spend
time on the phone with VFO tech support so they can see the problem. I know
I'm not the only one who is experiencing this issue.

Thanks.

John, a frustrated JAWS user.

PS For whatever reason, this does not happen at work with JAWS Professional
and Outlook 2013.

Thanks.

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Re: [JAWS-Users] still having issue with Outlook and HTML messages

[Dennis Long]

I sent a email hopefully they fix it.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Dave...Oregonian
Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2018 9:25 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] still having issue with Outlook and HTML messages

Dennis,

Please then send a message to supp...@freedomscientific.com and complain.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


- Original Message - 
From: "Dennis Long" <dennisl1...@gmail.com>
To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2018 17:01
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] still having issue with Outlook and HTML messages


I have this issue as well.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2018 6:10 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] still having issue with Outlook and HTML messages

Yes, there are. I brought it to VFO's attention by email and on the phone a
month or two ago without getting any good answer or promises for a fix. As
Dave urged, I hope everyone experiencing it will notify VFO.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List <jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com> On Behalf Of
Cher Bosch
Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2018 6:00 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] still having issue with Outlook and HTML messages

Does it begin reading everything in tables mode? If so, there are probably a
lot of us who have your issue.

Cher



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of JOHN RIEHL
Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2018 10:39 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] still having issue with Outlook and HTML messages

Hi. I'm still having the vexing and annoying issue of the latest issue of
JAWS periodically changing how it reads Outlook messages (windows-7, Outlook
2010). JAWS will be doing a great job of reading a message, then, for no
apparent reason, when I bring up the next message, read all kinds of info:
"Table 1, row 1, nesting level 3." etc. I have to close Outlook and,
sometimes, JAWS and bring them back for JAWS and Outlook to function
normally again.

I'm doing nothing to cause this to happen except bringing up the next e-mail
message.

This does not happen with every message, but it is repeatable, in that if I
read e-mail long enough it will, inevitably, happen.

Frankly, this is unacceptable. It would be helpful if the VFO folks who
monitor this list could at least acknowledge the problem. I'm happy to spend
time on the phone with VFO tech support so they can see the problem. I know
I'm not the only one who is experiencing this issue.

Thanks.

John, a frustrated JAWS user.

PS For whatever reason, this does not happen at work with JAWS Professional
and Outlook 2013.

Thanks.

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[JAWS-Users] making chrome like internet explorer

[Dennis Long]

Hi, is there a way to do letter navigation in my list of book marks in
chrome?

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[JAWS-Users] EaseUS MobiMover

[Dennis Long]

Hi, what format do the contacts have to be in for the program to import
them?  This is accessible with Jaws.

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Re: [JAWS-Users] still having issue with Outlook and HTML messages

[Dennis Long]

I have this issue as well.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2018 6:10 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] still having issue with Outlook and HTML messages

Yes, there are. I brought it to VFO's attention by email and on the phone a
month or two ago without getting any good answer or promises for a fix. As
Dave urged, I hope everyone experiencing it will notify VFO.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of
Cher Bosch
Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2018 6:00 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] still having issue with Outlook and HTML messages

Does it begin reading everything in tables mode? If so, there are probably a
lot of us who have your issue.

Cher



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Behalf Of JOHN RIEHL
Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2018 10:39 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] still having issue with Outlook and HTML messages

Hi. I'm still having the vexing and annoying issue of the latest issue of
JAWS periodically changing how it reads Outlook messages (windows-7, Outlook
2010). JAWS will be doing a great job of reading a message, then, for no
apparent reason, when I bring up the next message, read all kinds of info:
"Table 1, row 1, nesting level 3." etc. I have to close Outlook and,
sometimes, JAWS and bring them back for JAWS and Outlook to function
normally again. 

I'm doing nothing to cause this to happen except bringing up the next e-mail
message.

This does not happen with every message, but it is repeatable, in that if I
read e-mail long enough it will, inevitably, happen.

Frankly, this is unacceptable. It would be helpful if the VFO folks who
monitor this list could at least acknowledge the problem. I'm happy to spend
time on the phone with VFO tech support so they can see the problem. I know
I'm not the only one who is experiencing this issue.

Thanks.

John, a frustrated JAWS user.

PS For whatever reason, this does not happen at work with JAWS Professional
and Outlook 2013.

Thanks. 

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[JAWS-Users] is Skype accessible with Jaws2018?

[Dennis Long]

Hi, is Skype accessible with Jaws?  Are there scripts if so where do you
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Alternative to iTunes

[Dennis Long]

Maybe others have tried it.t.t.

-Original Message-
From: leonard morris [mailto:lmorris1...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2018 7:19 PM
To: Dennis Long
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Alternative to iTunes

I have briefly used the EaseUS MobiMover with Jaws 2018 along with windows 7  
and it does to appear to be Jaws friendly. I did an audio recording of a 
baseball game using total recorder as an MP3 file and I transfered it to my 
Iphone 8. The only thing I could not figrue out yet is the progress of the 
transfer and when the transfer has completed. 
However, it does appear to be much easier for me to navigate than the dreaded 
Itunes. Any additional tricks and tips offered is much appreciated.


On 4/25/2018 11:50 PM, Dennis Long wrote:
> When you try it please let us know.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] 
> On Behalf Of Tom Fairhurst
> Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2018 8:22 AM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Alternative to iTunes
>
> I haven't tried the software yet. I am chiming in on this late. My only other 
> suggestion si DropBox.
>
> -----Original Message-
> From: Dennis Long
> Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2018 11:57 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Alternative to iTunes
>
> Did anyone try the software that the article talks about?  Is there 
> alternative software that is Jaws accessible?
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] 
> On Behalf Of Rick Justice
> Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2018 4:41 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Alternative to iTunes
>
> Hi Leonard,
> You
> might give this a try,
> Easeus MobiMover
>
> https://www.easeus.com/iphone-data-transfer/transfer-text-messages-fro
> m-iphone-to-pc-with-ease.html
>
> HTH,
> Rick Justice
>
> "Tomorrow's another day, another way!"
> "and if tomorrow never comes, problem solved!"
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Leonard Morris" <lmorris1...@gmail.com>
> To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2018 1:30 PM
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Alternative to iTunes
>
>
> I want it easier way to transfer music from my computer to my iPhone. 
> I’ve always had issues doing this.
>
> Every country has an identity, history, custom, and culture. It’s a 
> unique landscape in determining how its people Live, work, and play.
>
>> On Apr 24, 2018, at 2:06 AM, JM Casey <crystallo...@ca.inter.net> wrote:
>>
>> Probably. But that depends on what it is you want to do. iTunes is a 
>> store, a media player and probably others things too (I don't use it, 
>> myself). Are you looking to buy music and movies? Or just play stuff?
>>
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] 
>> On Behalf Of Leonard Morris
>> Sent: April 21, 2018 4:26 PM
>> To: Jaws Users
>> Subject: [JAWS-Users] Alternative to iTunes
>>
>> Is there an alternative to iTunes that  works well with jaws 2018 or 
>> jaws 18?
>>
>> Every country has an identity, history, custom, and culture. It’s a 
>> unique landscape in determining how its people Live, work, and play.
>> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
>> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
>>
>>
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Alternative to iTunes

[Dennis Long]

When you try it please let us know.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Tom Fairhurst
Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2018 8:22 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Alternative to iTunes

I haven't tried the software yet. I am chiming in on this late. My only other 
suggestion si DropBox.

-Original Message-
From: Dennis Long
Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2018 11:57 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Alternative to iTunes

Did anyone try the software that the article talks about?  Is there alternative 
software that is Jaws accessible?

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Rick Justice
Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2018 4:41 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Alternative to iTunes

Hi Leonard,
You
might give this a try,
Easeus MobiMover

https://www.easeus.com/iphone-data-transfer/transfer-text-messages-from-iphone-to-pc-with-ease.html

HTH,
Rick Justice

"Tomorrow's another day, another way!"
"and if tomorrow never comes, problem solved!"

- Original Message -
From: "Leonard Morris" <lmorris1...@gmail.com>
To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2018 1:30 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Alternative to iTunes


I want it easier way to transfer music from my computer to my iPhone. I’ve
always had issues doing this.

Every country has an identity, history, custom, and culture. It’s a unique
landscape in determining how its people Live, work, and play.

> On Apr 24, 2018, at 2:06 AM, JM Casey <crystallo...@ca.inter.net> wrote:
>
> Probably. But that depends on what it is you want to do. iTunes is a
> store, a media player and probably others things too (I don't use it,
> myself). Are you looking to buy music and movies? Or just play stuff?
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
> Behalf Of Leonard Morris
> Sent: April 21, 2018 4:26 PM
> To: Jaws Users
> Subject: [JAWS-Users] Alternative to iTunes
>
> Is there an alternative to iTunes that  works well with jaws 2018 or jaws
> 18?
>
> Every country has an identity, history, custom, and culture. It’s a unique
> landscape in determining how its people Live, work, and play.
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[JAWS-Users] alt tabbing between programs seem slower in latest version

[Dennis Long]

Hi, when alt tabbing between windows seems much slower in this version I am
compairing this with jaws18.

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Alternative to iTunes

[Dennis Long]

Did anyone try the software that the article talks about?  Is there alternative 
software that is Jaws accessible?  

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Rick Justice
Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2018 4:41 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Alternative to iTunes

Hi Leonard,
You
might give this a try,
Easeus MobiMover

https://www.easeus.com/iphone-data-transfer/transfer-text-messages-from-iphone-to-pc-with-ease.html

HTH,
Rick Justice

"Tomorrow's another day, another way!"
"and if tomorrow never comes, problem solved!"

- Original Message - 
From: "Leonard Morris" 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2018 1:30 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Alternative to iTunes


I want it easier way to transfer music from my computer to my iPhone. I’ve 
always had issues doing this.

Every country has an identity, history, custom, and culture. It’s a unique 
landscape in determining how its people Live, work, and play.

> On Apr 24, 2018, at 2:06 AM, JM Casey  wrote:
>
> Probably. But that depends on what it is you want to do. iTunes is a 
> store, a media player and probably others things too (I don't use it, 
> myself). Are you looking to buy music and movies? Or just play stuff?
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
> Behalf Of Leonard Morris
> Sent: April 21, 2018 4:26 PM
> To: Jaws Users
> Subject: [JAWS-Users] Alternative to iTunes
>
> Is there an alternative to iTunes that  works well with jaws 2018 or jaws 
> 18?
>
> Every country has an identity, history, custom, and culture. It’s a unique 
> landscape in determining how its people Live, work, and play.
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>
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Re: [JAWS-Users] fast copy

[Dennis Long]

Could you create instructions once you figure it out?

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Of David Ferrin
Sent: Friday, April 20, 2018 8:55 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] fast copy

It does look like it is free to distribute so I’ll go ahead and put it up on 
the server shortly. The operating instructions at least in my opinion leave 
something to be desired. Creating multiple jobs is still just out of my grasp 
so far. I am starting to make out some of the settings in a job stream that 
work best for my needs so that is progress for a Friday. 
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Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 2018 won't keep focus with IE in some webpages

[Dennis Long]

All these issues need to be reported to FS support so they can properly log
and track them.

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Behalf Of Justin Williams
Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2018 11:09 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 2018 won't keep focus with IE in some
webpages

Agreed, but that's a secondary option, if you've got to do something else.
With place markers, I've noticed that sometimes, they don't hold, though I'd
try the place marker first.  Going to start using them at work more, thanks
for the reminder. 


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Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2018 10:49 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 2018 won't keep focus with IE in some
webpages

Thanks, Justin, but the "find" alternative would be too much of a
distraction. Such tasks need to be as automatic as possible.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of
Justin Williams
Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2018 10:45 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 2018 won't keep focus with IE in some
webpages

The place mmarkerseems like a good work around, also remembering a key word,
any word in that area, or a short sequence, and using the find feature,
control f, could laos be used.

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Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2018 10:06 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 2018 won't keep focus with IE in some
webpages

Thanks, Patti, you've given me a very constructive workaround, and I'll use
it. Still, it's an extra step and a distraction. Let's say I'm copying seven
items of information from different parts of a webpage. With previous
versions of JAWS, I could rely on focus staying where I'd left it on
transferring each item to a Word file. This is already a tedious process
that requires concentration. Your idea will help, but it's still an extra
precaution I shouldn't need to take based on earlier versions of JAWS. 

Note for anyone following this thread. You can set a temporary placemarker
in a browser with control-shift-k. As I recall, it is replaced each time you
set a new one or close the window. 

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of
patti
Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2018 9:37 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 2018 won't keep focus with IE in some
webpages

How about using place markers, so when you go back to that page, all you
have to do is press the letter K.
Patti

I'm referring to the situation where I'm taking information bit by bit from
a webpage. I need to be able to go back to that page and resume where I left
off. 

-Original Message-
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patti
Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2018 7:41 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 2018 won't keep focus with IE in some
webpages

 What I do is make sure my curser is in the upper left hand side at the top.
Patti

Hi. We've had an earlier thread on this subject. I've also written and
spoken to VFO about it, but all they told me was to change certain JAWS
quick settings that I want to keep for other purposes. I don't need to make
these changes when using earlier versions of JAWS, which means I spend my
day switching between versions.

I've just written again to VFO tech support. I'd urge anyone else
experiencing this problem to do the same because it's a significant flaw.
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Re: [JAWS-Users] fast copy

[Dennis Long]

Will you eventually put it on the website along with good documentation?

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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of David Ferrin
Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2018 8:08 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] fast copy

Oh it does a remarkable job of backing up files and or folders for sure. I 
can't figure out as of yet how to configure more than a single job which at 
this point is first on my list for that program right now.

It is much faster than some older programs, my guess is that it manages memory 
better.

-Original Message-
From: JM Casey
Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2018 3:45 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] fast copy

Hi David. This is good to know.

I've been trying to figure out a powershell script to do this for me, but I'm 
wondering if the program you mentioned could do the following:

I have an external drive which I use to back up all my music, which I have 
spread across two other drives. I would like a way to examine the contents of 
folders in both drives, and copy anything that's new/since the last backup onto 
the external, placing it in the correct folders.



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Of David Ferrin
Sent: April 18, 2018 1:45 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] fast copy

I started to take a closer look at this program and it does have some important 
advantages over some older comparable programs for backing up files ETC. For 
example it is much faster than Karen's’ replicator which for me has been the 
gold standard for many years already.

The rub is its’ help file is roughly as useful as a screen door in a submarine. 
Specifically where it comes to creating multiple jobs is my current stumbling 
block along with another item or so, but I like to tackle one thing at a time.

So if anybody out there has some pointers or better documentation I would 
appreciate having a look myself. Thanks in advance.
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Re: [JAWS-Users] blind tunes scripts for Itunes

[Dennis Long]

Do you have a option in add remove  programs called blind tunes?  If not you
could go into your enu folder and delete the blind tunes files and restart
Jaws.

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Behalf Of leonard morris
Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2018 6:47 PM
To: Jaws
Subject: [JAWS-Users] blind tunes scripts for Itunes

I'm using jaws 2018 and windows 7. I've yet to figure out how to delete the
Jaws scripts called BlindTunes for Itunes. These scripts have not been
updated in quite a while. Itunes is constantly updating their program which
is probably the reason the developer has discontinued them. I'm wondering if
I deleted and reinstalled Itunes would this get rid of the scripts?

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Re: [JAWS-Users] amazon and accessibility

[Dennis Long]

Yes ie 11 and jaws is terrible now you can't alt tab away and go back and
use it.

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Behalf Of Judy
Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2018 10:53 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] amazon and accessibility

Hi, did the person who had trouble with changing her account on amazon able
to do that? I have3n't heard anything since I sent my reply in and just
wondered. Also, is anyone who uses IE 11 been having more trouble lately
using it with Jaws on websites in general? I have notided this in the last
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Re: [JAWS-Users] installing Jaws version 16 when version 2018 is present

[Dennis Long]

No you will be fine.

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Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2018 8:17 PM
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Subject: [JAWS-Users] installing Jaws version 16 when version 2018 is
present

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Firefox reader view

[Dennis Long]

Reader view will work on almost any article.

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Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2018 3:30 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Firefox reader view

Hi, Jim. In your reply to a separate query, you mention the Firefox key combo 
control-alt-r, which I know you've done in the past. However, I can't find my 
notes on that thread. Is this Firefox's "reader view"? I've looked online, but 
the instructions don't seem to work for me. Also, I see an alternative key 
sequence of alt, v, r, but this doesn’t work either. 

Would you explain reader view or point to an explanation, and maybe give a link 
to a page where it works? 

Here's the webpage of instructions that I found: 
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Pursley
Sent: Sunday, April 08, 2018 6:02 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Opening a second window in Firefox

I'm not much help here as I don't open new Firefox tabs.  I find that many of 
the sites I use work better with IE11 than Firefox.  My Fidelity Institutional 
site does not work at all with the current (ESL)Firefox version. I have Firefox 
as my default browser, mainly because I really like the alt/control/R function 
reader, which strips out extraneous information and often noxious audio inserts 
from articles I want to read.

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[JAWS-Users] windows10 version 18.03

[Dennis Long]

Hi, will there be any problems if we update to windows10 version 18.03 and
use the march update for jaws or should we wait until Jaws releases an
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Firefox and bookmarks

[Dennis Long]

I would like that as well if its possible.

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Behalf Of net bat66
Sent: Monday, April 2, 2018 5:43 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Firefox and bookmarks

use control i to open and close the list. this will also give you a search
box to search  within the bookmark list. with me i have to turn off the
virtual pc cursor first or else firefox will hang for several minutes before
jaws will start working again.


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Sent: Monday, April 02, 2018 12:45 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Firefox and bookmarks

Please tell me how to get firefox to show the entire list of bookmarks. I
get into these tree views, and I wanton know if there's a way to get jaws to
read the entire list with up and down arrow keys like Internet Explorer
does.  Thanks.


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From: "JOHN RIEHL" 
Sent: Sunday, April 01, 2018 7:20 PM
To: 
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Firefox and bookmarks

> Alt-b brings up the bookmarks folder in Firefox.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] 
> On Behalf Of Judy
> Sent: Sunday, April 01, 2018 8:41 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Firefox and bookmarks
>
> Jeff, I have another question about Firefox then. I know it works the 
> same as IE to save something, but how do you bring up your bookmark 
> folder? I tried using control B but nothing came up and I had saved a few
things.
> Thanks. Judy & Libby
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] 
> On Behalf Of Audiobookfan
> Sent: Sunday, April 01, 2018 8:10 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Firefox and bookmarks
>
> If you're viewing the page you want to bookmark, just press control-d. 
> A dialog will open where you can edit the name and location of the 
> bookmark, but if you just wait a few seconds, the dialog will close 
> and save the bookmark in the main bookmarks folder. If you edit the 
> name or location, tab to the Done button and whack enter.
>
> Jeff
>
>
> On 4/1/2018 11:45 AM, Leonard Morris wrote:
>> How do you add a bookmark in Firefox?
>>
>> Every country has an identity, history, custom, and culture. It's a 
>> unique
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Re: [JAWS-Users] looking for a utility

[Dennis Long]

Thanks I appreciate it.  Thanks for all you do.  Happy Easter to you and
everyone that celebrates it.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of David Ferrin
Sent: Sunday, April 1, 2018 3:12 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] looking for a utility

Posted all four of them on the programs page under the new hardware heading.

-Original Message-
From: Dennis Long
Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2018 6:55 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] looking for a utility

Please do post them.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of David Ferrin
Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2018 6:45 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] looking for a utility

I started out looking for a utility and now I have at least three of them to
pick from. Depending on their respective permissions I might just post them
on the server for others to find. I will review the licenses before hand of
course.

-Original Message-
From: Hareth
Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2018 9:30 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] looking for a utility

My bad that one was the removable usb and fire wire.
this one is the CD / DVD stuff.
https://wineject.com/
Notice;: how to acquire a free personal license  located down that page.

On 3/27/18, Hareth <haret...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi David and all,
> If you talking about this please disregard, If not give it a spin, its 
> an open source neat little thing if it does all it says, hotkeys and
> more:
> https://quickandeasysoftware.net/software/usb-disk-ejector
>
> On 3/27/18, David Ferrin <ow...@jaws-users.com> wrote:
>> Ejecting the drive itself, and Like I said in a previous post I did 
>> find such an animal.
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: wayne smith
>> Sent: Monday, March 26, 2018 1:23 PM
>> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
>> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] looking for a utility
>>
>> Forgive my ignorance, but are we talking about opening the drive door 
>> or actually ejecting the drive itself? If it is about opening the CD 
>> drive door, Alt-F and press j while on the drive.
>>
>> Wayne
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
>> On Behalf Of David Ferrin
>> Sent: Monday, March 26, 2018 12:10 PM
>> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
>> Subject: [JAWS-Users] looking for a utility
>>
>> I had if memory serves a utility that would eject my DVD drive with a 
>> hotkey and unfortunately it must have been deleted in my last house 
>> cleaning so to speak. Does anybody have such an animal or know where 
>> to find it? I am off to do a search myself soon as I send this 
>> message, I was just wondering in case my search proves fruitless.
>> David Ferrin
>> Life is what happens after you have already made other plans.
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>>
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>>
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[JAWS-Users] vipre help needed please

[Dennis Long]

Hi, I had to reformat my computer I didn't have a backup with this
information can you read what viper has in quarantine and move it back if
it's not a threat?

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Re: [JAWS-Users] looking for a utility

[Dennis Long]

Please do post them.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of David Ferrin
Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2018 6:45 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] looking for a utility

I started out looking for a utility and now I have at least three of them to
pick from. Depending on their respective permissions I might just post them
on the server for others to find. I will review the licenses before hand of
course.

-Original Message-
From: Hareth
Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2018 9:30 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] looking for a utility

My bad that one was the removable usb and fire wire.
this one is the CD / DVD stuff.
https://wineject.com/
Notice;: how to acquire a free personal license  located down that page.

On 3/27/18, Hareth  wrote:
> Hi David and all,
> If you talking about this please disregard, If not give it a spin, its 
> an open source neat little thing if it does all it says, hotkeys and
> more:
> https://quickandeasysoftware.net/software/usb-disk-ejector
>
> On 3/27/18, David Ferrin  wrote:
>> Ejecting the drive itself, and Like I said in a previous post I did 
>> find such an animal.
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: wayne smith
>> Sent: Monday, March 26, 2018 1:23 PM
>> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
>> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] looking for a utility
>>
>> Forgive my ignorance, but are we talking about opening the drive door 
>> or actually ejecting the drive itself? If it is about opening the CD 
>> drive door, Alt-F and press j while on the drive.
>>
>> Wayne
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] 
>> On Behalf Of David Ferrin
>> Sent: Monday, March 26, 2018 12:10 PM
>> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
>> Subject: [JAWS-Users] looking for a utility
>>
>> I had if memory serves a utility that would eject my DVD drive with a 
>> hotkey and unfortunately it must have been deleted in my last house 
>> cleaning so to speak. Does anybody have such an animal or know where 
>> to find it? I am off to do a search myself soon as I send this 
>> message, I was just wondering in case my search proves fruitless.
>> David Ferrin
>> Life is what happens after you have already made other plans.
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>> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
>>
>>
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>>
>>
>> David Ferrin
>> You don't have to be crazy to run a list like this, but it does help.
>>
>>
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>>
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[JAWS-Users] vipre advanced security question

[Dennis Long]

Hi, if Vipre quarantines something can you read what it quarantines with
jaws?  I have jaws 16 through 2018

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[JAWS-Users] jaws2018 and vipre question

[Dennis Long]

Hi, using jaws 2018 can you see what viper has quarantined?

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[JAWS-Users] vipre question

[Dennis Long]

Hi, if viper quarinteens something can you see what it is using jaws?

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Sluggish Outlook

[Dennis Long]

First there is no outlook 14 that I am aware of.  There is 2010 2013 and
2016 are the most recent.  I point this out to help with possible bug
tracking.   The version number needs to be accurate for possible reproducing
of problems.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2018 1:46 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Sluggish Outlook

Al, 

I've been getting the number of emails and unread messages in the status bar
(insert-pagedown) for as long as I've had Outlook. As far as receiving and
sending, I find it varies. When I suspect there's been a long delay,
sometimes closing and reopening Outlook seems to stimulate it into
wakefulness again. As for messages reaching this list, once in a while my
post arrives almost immediately, but usually it takes a while, even an hour
or more. I believe the list's moderators have talked about this, and it's
undoubtedly a function of ISP servers. 

Dave's response to your query adds a new wrinkle. 

I realize this doesn't directly address the problems you've only recently
experienced, but maybe it puts them in context. By the way, is there really
an Outlook 14? I'm using Windows 7, JAWS 2018/18/17 and Outlook 16.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of
Al Sorrentino
Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2018 12:25 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Sluggish Outlook

Hi Everyone,

 

I have JAWS 13, Windows 7 Home Edition and Outlook 14.

 

In the past few weeks, it seems that my Outlook program has become very
sluggish in receiving my new e-mails.  When I would open up my laptop in the
morning and press F-9, to receive my new e-mail's and press Control & the
home key all my new unread e-mail's would pop up instantly.  

 

In the past couple of weeks, when I do the procedure mentioned above, no new
e-mails would pop up.  It now takes a very long time and pressing many keys
to try and receive my new e-mails.

 

I also noticed, that if I send myself a test e-mail it takes a very long
time for my test e-mail to appear on my list.  In the past, as soon as I
would press the F-9 key, I would hear the ping and the test e-mail would be
on the top of my e-mails instantly.  

 

The only difference that I see with my outlook program is that now when I
press the insert key and the page down key Jaws says, the number of e-mails
I have, the number of unread e-mails and this is a new addition in the past
couple of weeks, it says receive/send and of course at the end it says the
usual 10%.

 

Could this new addition of Send/Receive cause the problem in my Outlook
becoming so sluggish? I do not know what I may have pressed to cause this
problem.  Can anyone give me a detailed fix to avoid this sluggish Outlook
problem?  Any help will be greatly appreciated.

 

Al Sorrentino

alsorrent...@verizon.net

 

 

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Rumola, for IE?

[Dennis Long]

There isn't one for ie

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On March 27, 2018 6:47:58 AM "Glenn At Home"  wrote:

> Hi,
> I've been looking for Rumola for Internet Explorer, and I haven't found it.
> I installed the add-on for Chrome, but IE is my main browser.
> Thank you if anyone can send me a link for it if it is up-to-date for IE.
> FYI, Rumola is a captcha solver, for those web pages that ask us to enter
> the letters in the window.
> Even if they were legible, they aren't accessible.
> There are times I'd pay a couple bucks to have someone read the captcha for 
> me.
> Looks like it's available for FF, but I'm not ready to go back to FF yet.
>
> Glenn
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Re: [JAWS-Users] volume short cut

[Dennis Long]

Where is the scroll lock key?

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Fernando Gregoire
Sent: Monday, March 26, 2018 10:03 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] volume short cut

Hi Holger,

Answers you were given are for quickly opening Volume Mixer, but they actually 
don't change the volume.
In case your keyboard has no volume keys, JAWS provides two scripts, 
IncreaseSystemVolume and DecreaseSystemVolume, that respectively raises or 
lower the volume from any application, with no need to open any additional 
window, and they announce the volume level to which you just set.
By default these scripts have no key assignment, but it is easy to map to a 
convenient keystroke:
1. Press INSERT+J to open the JAWS window or context menu, depending on your 
setting.
2. Press ALT+U to open the Utilities menu or sub-menu, depending on your 
setting.
3. Press K to open Keyboard Manager.
4. When Keyboard Manager opens, press TAB to move to the right pane, that is, 
the one containing key mappings of the file selected in the left pane, that 
should be Default if you launched Keyboard Manager as I indicated. If you ran 
Keyboard Manager in a different way, press CTRL+SHIFT+D to make sure you're 
working in the Default file instead of the one specific for the application 
from which you opened Keyboard Manager.
5. In the list view, find the script whose name is DecreaseSystemVolume. You'll 
find that it is not assigned to any key.
6. Press CTRL+A to add a keystroke to this script.
7. Press the keystroke you want to use to lower the volume. In my desktop 
computer I use CTRL+SCROLL LOCK+DOWN ARROW.
8. Press ENTER, and choose OK in the confirmation dialog which appears.
9. You'll be returned to the list view of scripts. Do the same with the 
IncreaseSystemVolume script, which you could assign to CTRL+SCROLL LOCK+UP 
ARROW.
10. Close Keyboard Manager with ALT+F4.

Advantages of this method are that volume is changed on the fly with no need to 
change the application, and it works even when you are on the Windows Logon 
screen. As a disadvantage, these keystrokes don't work when you aren't using 
JAWS or when you are in a program in which you configured JAWS to be in Sleep 
Mode.

Hope it helps!

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of 
Holger Fiallo
Sent: Monday, March 26, 2018 12:18 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] volume short cut

How do I create a volume shortcut? Using jaws 2018 and W10.

Holger Fiallo

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Outlook or Outlook Express Inquiry

[Dennis Long]

Mike how do I tell what version I have?  I tried typing a backslash after 
opening the c drive did I miss something?

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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Mike B.
Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2018 7:20 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Outlook or Outlook Express Inquiry

Hi Jerry,

Open the Start menu & open the Programs / All Programs folder.  Arrow through 
this folder to see if you have a sub-folder called Microsoft Office Tools, if 
so, press enter or right arrow to open.  Now poke around in here to see if you 
have Outlook.  Another way to check is to open the root of the C / operating 
system drive, & the easy way to do this is to press, Windows key + R, to open 
the Run dialog.  Type a single,  backslash, & press enter. 
Depending on if your Office version is 32 or 64 bit will depend on which folder 
it will be located in.  If your Office version is 32 bit, it'll be located in 
the Program Files X86 folder, & if it's 64 bit, it'll be in the Program Files 
folder.  Now just irritate the hell out of you, here's another way!  LOL Open 
Programs & Features from the control panel, & navigate through the installed 
list of programs to see if Outlook is installed.  You can also do a search for, 
add or remove programs, from the search box to see if it's there.

Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sennt from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the end 
you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
- Original Message -
From: jyandt.mar...@comcast.net
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2018 3:46 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Outlook or Outlook Express Inquiry


Fernando:
Thanks for the information. I do have office 13, but I did not find any outlook 
program. Could you provide me with the places to search for this?
Thanks again.


-Original Message-
From: Fernando Gregoire
Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2018 5:41 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Outlook or Outlook Express Inquiry

Hi,

Outlook is not free, but a part of Office editions higher than home ones. It 
works on any Windows version in which you can install an Office version 
compatible with the running Windows version.
Outlook Express was the e-mail and newsgroup client included with IE in Windows 
XP and earlier. It was free. It is available for downloads in some websites, 
but be aware that running this client on Windows later than XP is not 
officially supported by Microsoft.
Windows 10 includes a free client called Mail, but it is very basic even 
compared with the old Microsoft free alternatives Outlook Express, Windows Mail 
included in Vista and Windows Live Mail included with the Windows Live 
Essentials suite, together with other stuff like Windows Live Messenger, 
Writter, SkyDrive (currently OneDrive), etc.
I strongly recommend you to install Office and use Microsoft Outlook, which is 
full featured, customizable and very accessible.

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From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of 
jyandt.mar...@comcast.net
Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2018 6:14 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Outlook or Outlook Express Inquiry

Afternoon all.
Can anyone tell me if OE or Outlook is free and if so, what is the process for 
downloading and installing? Using JAWS 2018, Windows 10 on a Dell laptop. 
Thanks.

Jerry
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Another Problem Since Latest Jaws 2018 Update

[Dennis Long]

I am not getting this.

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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Friday, March 23, 2018 9:20 PM
To: 'Jaws users list'
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Another Problem Since Latest Jaws 2018 Update

Hello, again, everyone.

 

I am sorry for this additional post, but I have just noticed another problem
since I updated to the latest build of Jaws 2018.

 

Now, whenever I try to navigate a web page, I get a "clunk" sound whenever I
encounter a link.

 

The "clunk" sound is anoying in and of itself, but this new feature also
seems to interfere at least somewhat with web page navigation.

 

I find the problem with both Firefox 52, and the latest version of Internet
Explorer.

 

Can anyone tell me what might have changed, and how to fix the issue?

 

Thanks as always!

 

Dr.  Tom Behler from Michigan

 

 

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Tandem Questions

[Dennis Long]

I stand corrected.

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On March 23, 2018 1:42:08 AM "Fernando Gregoire" <fergregoir...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Hi Denis,
>
> JAWS 16 and later doesn't support Windows XP. I copy you information on
> release notes for JAWS 16 pertaining this.
>
> JAWS 16 Discontinues Support of Windows XP
>
> Microsoft discontinued support for the Windows XP operating system in April
> of 2014, 13 plus years after its initial release. Based on this decision, we
> have decided to discontinue the on-going development and testing for
> Windows XP as of JAWS 16. Starting with the initial release of JAWS 16, it
> will only
> install on computers running Windows Vista or higher. For all of our
> customers who may continue to maintain a Windows XP computer, you can
> download the
> current JAWS 15 release, along with earlier versions of JAWS, from our
> archive download pages on the Freedom Scientific web site. These earlier
> versions
> will remain available for our customers in the future as well.
>
> You can find these notes here:
> http://www.freedomscientific.com/Downloads/jaws/jaws16features
>
> I also remember that briefly after the release of JAWS 16, FS posted an
> update to JAWS 15, the final one specifically worrying about Windows XP, to
> fix broken JAWS support for Outlook Express. I'm now checking FS website
> and this is the relevant information about this on JAWS 15:
>
> Enhancements in JAWS 15.0.11024 (August 2014)
>
> This new update addresses the following two issues reported by multiple
> customers shortly after JAWS 15.0.11022 was posted.
>
> • Resolved issues with Internet Explorer 8 and Outlook Express not working
> under Windows XP.
> • Resolved reported issues where the updated Accessibility Driver would not
> install in Windows 8. It was working as expected in Windows 8.1.
>
> These release notes are here:
> http://www.freedomscientific.com/Downloads/jaws/jaws15features
>
> Cheers!
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List <jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com> On Behalf Of
> Dennis Long
> Sent: Friday, March 23, 2018 2:02 AM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Tandem Questions
>
> Mike 16 worked on xp.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
> Behalf Of Mike B.
> Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2018 10:21 PM
> To: Jaws-Users List
> Subject: [JAWS-Users] Tandem Questions
>
> Hi All,
>
> I'm running Windows 7 Pro with J16 as my oldest version of Jaws installed.
> I need to Tandem into an XP computer to get some information, but being
> that the latest version of Jaws that XP allows, from what I understand is
> Jaws 15, can I Tandem into this XP computer under these circumstances?  All
> help will be greatly appreciated.  Thanks mooy moocho.
> Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
> Sennt from my iBarstool.
> Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the
> end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Tandem Questions

[Dennis Long]

Mike 16 worked on xp.

-Original Message-
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Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2018 10:21 PM
To: Jaws-Users List
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Tandem Questions

Hi All,

I'm running Windows 7 Pro with J16 as my oldest version of Jaws installed. 
I need to Tandem into an XP computer to get some information, but being that
the latest version of Jaws that XP allows, from what I understand is Jaws
15, can I Tandem into this XP computer under these circumstances?  All help
will be greatly appreciated.  Thanks mooy moocho.
Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Serious Problem Since Doing Latest Jaws 2018 Update

[Dennis Long]

I suspect this is not a Jaws problem.  I say this because you installed an
earlier version and still had issues.

-Original Message-
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Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2018 5:15 PM
To: 'Jaws users list'
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Serious Problem Since Doing Latest Jaws 2018 Update

 Hello, everyone.

 

I have developed a serious problem since doing the latest 2018 Jaws update
on this Windows 7 laptop.

 

In fact, it actually is very difficult to type this e-mail.

 

Since the update, my computer has basically slowed down to a crawl.

 

It's hard to type anything, because there is a several-second delay between
hitting a key, and getting a response from Jaws.I also have a great deal of
Static in my computer speakers, which I never had before.  Finally, I find
that I often have to restore focus with Jaws when doing a particular task.

 

I even went back to an earlier version of Jaws, and the problems persisted.

 

I called Freedom Scientific Tech support, and we re-installed the latest
Jaws update.  The problem still persisted.  I even did a Jaws repair with no
luck.

 

Needless to say, I'm not very happy!!

 

Has anyone had these problems with the latest update, and if so, what did
you do to address them?

 

This computer is a Dell business-grade computer, and I've never experienced
problems like this before from the many Jaws updates I have done over the
years.

 

Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

 

I'm going to call Freedom Scientific again in the morning if I have no luck
between now and then.

 

Dr.  Tom Behler from Michigan

 

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Odd behavior with latest JFW update

[Dennis Long]

I can't reproduce this and I use firefox as my browser

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Behalf Of Cristóbal
Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2018 1:56 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Odd behavior with latest JFW update

Hello list,

Ever since updating to the latest JFW March update, I’m noticing an odd
behavior on webpages while in Firefox 52 ESR. Jaws will sometimes hang and
appear to refresh placing me back towards the top and if I try to jump back
and forth with the control plus up or down arrow for example to get speech
back, I’ll end up in a different tab.

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[JAWS-Users] how to run a repair on jaws 2018

[Dennis Long]

Hi, I had someone ask me how to run a repair on jaws 2018 they are running
windows 10 any help is appreciated.

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Unmute key combo

[Dennis]

I agree.  it works great.  Thanks for all your hard work!
- Original Message - 
From: "Maria Campbell" 

To: 
Sent: Friday, March 16, 2018 3:52 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Unmute key combo


To VFO, that unmute key combo may be the best thing since place 
markers. Thanks.



--

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Unmute key combo

[Dennis Long]

This is a great feature.

Sent from my Android phone using Aqua Mail



On March 17, 2018 3:42:19 AM "Fernando Gregoire" 
wrote:

> I respect your opinion, Maria, but unmuting as it was implemented seems me
> a bad idea.
> In addition to when starting JAWS (which is right), this is done every time
> you press JAWS+ESCAPE to refresh the screen or virtual buffer. Freedom
> Scientific says that this doesn't affect muting of the synthesizer with
> INSERT+SPACEBAR, S, but what if you only use Braille and, even when you
> work with no speech or have speech muted temporarily, you want to mute also
> other computer sounds? I think it would be better if this would be a
> setting in the Basic Settings dialog box and JAWS Startup Wizard instead of
> a mandatory action from witting any call to the RefreshScreen script.
> These imposed automatic adjustments makes me a bit angry, for example the
> fact that I can't lower the JAWS volume in Volume Mixer less than 20%
> because it is reset automatically to 100% when I try to continue down to
> 19, 18 or the value I want.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of
> Maria Campbell
> Sent: Friday, March 16, 2018 4:53 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: [JAWS-Users] Unmute key combo
>
> To VFO, that unmute key combo may be the best thing since place markers.
> Thanks.
>
>
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> lucky1i...@gmail.com
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Re: [JAWS-Users] possible bug in latest jaws update

[Dennis]

I am not able to reproduce that.  using firefox 52 and latest jaws.
- Original Message - 
From: "Michael Amaro" 

To: 
Sent: Friday, March 16, 2018 5:59 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] possible bug in latest jaws update



Hello Listers,

Yesterday night, I downloaded and installed jaws 2018 on my windows 10 pro 
64 bit machine.  This morning I Went to:


www.speedtest.net

I waited for the page to load, once the page loaded I pressed jaws key 
plus f7 pressed the letter c for change server.  Tried pressing jaws key 
plus f7 to pick a server close to me.  Jaws came back with no links.


thanks

Michael

Email:

mikeam...@earthlink.net

iPhone:

mikeam...@icloud.com
JFK"

What kind of peace do I mean? What kind of peace do we seek? Not a Pax 
Americana enforced on the world by American weapons of war. Not the peace 
of the grave or the security of the slave. I am talking about genuine 
peace, the kind of peace that makes life on earth worth living, the kind 
that enables men and nations to grow and to hope and to build a better 
life for their children--not merely peace for Americans but peace for all 
men and women--not merely peace in our time but peace for all time."

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Re: [JAWS-Users] CCleaner Latest & Jaws Not Reading Results

[Dennis]

I reported this to them I think we all should report it as well.  I don't 
know if FS can do anything about this.
- Original Message - 
From: "Mike B." 

To: 
Sent: Friday, March 16, 2018 5:00 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] CCleaner Latest & Jaws Not Reading Results



Hi Orlando,

Yes, please let us know how scan results reading work for you.  It didn't
matter which version of Jaws I used, J16 thru J2018, the scan results just
wouldn't read.  Thanks much for your input.

Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sennt from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the
end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
- Original Message - 
From: Orlando Enrique Fiol

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Friday, March 16, 2018 6:59 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] CCleaner Latest & Jaws Not Reading Results


Hi Mike.
As far as CCleaner's registry cleaner, never before would I hear the
state of the check boxes for each registry category. Now, with the
latest Jaws and Windows

builds, I hear the check box states. I'll look into the scan results
for you, to see if I experience the same thing.Orlando Enrique Fiol
Ph.D. Candidate in Music Theory
University of Pennsylvania
Professional Pianist/Keyboardist, Percussionist, Arranger, Performer
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Latest JAWS Update

[Dennis Long]

I would call it in.  if need tech support can tandem in and see if anything
is wrong.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Rebecca Lineberger
Sent: Friday, March 16, 2018 10:25 AM
To: jaws user's list
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Latest JAWS Update

I would call this in, but thought I'd see if anyone else can replicate it
first.

Yesterday, after I installed the new version, I went first to Microsoft
Edge, and played around in there with different websites, to see how text
selection worked.  It worked fine, as I said yesterday.

But what I did not mention yesterday was when I went back to Chrome, the
Google page loaded, but JAWS showed nothing on the screen.  Nothing when I
typed into the search box, nothing when I turned the pc cursor on and
arrowed down the page, nothing when I refreshed the screen with JAWS
key-escape, nothing when I rotated through the f6 options.  No luck with
Windows-tab or alt-tab in going away from the page and coming back.

I turned off the computer and when it rebooted, all was fine.

This morning, Chrome was fine.  But when I went to Edge for a while and then
came back to Chrome, the same thing happened as the day before.  This time,
rather than shutting the computer down, I just restarted JAWS.  When it came
back, it had sorted itself out and Chrome is working properly again.

Is this a bug?  Several others reported things not working properly till the
computer was rebooted.  I will call it in, or perhaps Eric Damery can
replicate this one too?  Smile.

Rebecca

"The best criticism of the bad is the practice of the better" 

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Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS Update

[Dennis Long]

Try turning the sound to 0 then refreshing the screen.  It works like a
charm.  Nice update.  I love it.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Eric Damery
Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2018 3:52 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS Update

Thanks for the feedback Rebecca. You are correct on the calculator. I just
verified the division not working as well and will get them working on that
one now.

Regards,
Eric

Eric Damery
VFO(tm) | VP Software Product Management
11800 31st Court North, St. Petersburg, FL 33716 T 727-299-6110 F
727-803-8001 edam...@vfogroup.com www.vfogroup.com


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Rebecca Lineberger
Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2018 3:35 PM
To: jaws user's list 
Subject: [JAWS-Users] JAWS Update

I put it in this afternoon and have been playing.  I'm delighted to be able
to copy and paste using Edge.  I had not been using Edge, since I needed
this functionality.  Thank you.

I use the Windows 10 calculator all the time, and am pleased that it now
speaks as it should for the most part.  Occasionally when dividing one
number by another, the result does not speak when the enter key is pressed.
Consistently this happens with 16 divided by 4.  I have to tab and shift tab
for the answer to speak.  20 divided by 4 speaks the answer immediately. I
played with all sorts of numbers, but again, only 16 divided by 4
consistently comes up silent on my system.

 

I wish I could play with Office 2016, but I still am happy with my 2010.
Smile.

I have other things yet to check out, but this was a great update.

Thanks.

Rebecca

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Re: [JAWS-Users] March jaws 2018 looks exciging

[Dennis]

auto mute
- Original Message - 
From: "Star Gazer" <pickrellrebe...@gmail.com>

To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2018 1:57 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] March jaws 2018 looks exciging



Tell me more about the immune feature

Sent from my iPhone


On Mar 14, 2018, at 1:11 PM, Dennis <dennisl1...@gmail.com> wrote:

I agree hopefully this comes out tomorrow.  I never use the check for 
updates it is not reliable.

- Original Message - From: "Michael Massey" <masse...@q.com>
To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2018 12:57 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] March jaws 2018 looks exciging



Well, as usual, the check for updates feature did not work, so in
this situation, I checked the website to see if the March Jaws 2018 
update
is available.  Nope, sorry Dennis, it isn't available yet.  Have I tried 
to

check for Jaws updates earlier?  Well, yes.  Perhaps the update will be
released tomorrow? I expect the check for Jaws updates to malfunction 
once

in a while, but it keeps malfunctioning too often.



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List <jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com> On Behalf 
Of

Dennis
Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2018 10:39 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] March jaws 2018 looks exciging

I should've made that more clear in my message.
- Original Message - From: "Michael Massey" <masse...@q.com>
To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2018 12:29 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] March jaws 2018 looks exciging


The podcast clearly mentions that the unmute feature will be in the 
March

Jaws 2018 update.



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List <jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com> On 
Behalf

Of
Dennis
Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2018 9:36 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] March jaws 2018 looks exciging

I like the automatic unmutting of the sound if it gets muted.  When 
will

this be available?
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Re: [JAWS-Users] March jaws 2018 looks exciging

[Dennis]

awesome!  Thanks for all you do!
- Original Message - 
From: "Eric Damery" <edam...@vfogroup.com>

To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2018 1:34 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] March jaws 2018 looks exciging


We are on track to post the March Update of JAWS 2018 to the web between 9 
and 10 AM Eastern on Thursday.

Regards,
Eric

Eric Damery
VFO(tm) | VP Software Product Management
11800 31st Court North, St. Petersburg, FL 33716
T 727-299-6110 F 727-803-8001
edam...@vfogroup.com
www.vfogroup.com

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
Behalf Of Dennis

Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2018 1:12 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] March jaws 2018 looks exciging

I agree hopefully this comes out tomorrow.  I never use the check for 
updates it is not reliable.

- Original Message -
From: "Michael Massey" <masse...@q.com>
To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2018 12:57 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] March jaws 2018 looks exciging



Well, as usual, the check for updates feature did not work, so in this
situation, I checked the website to see if the March Jaws 2018 update
is available.  Nope, sorry Dennis, it isn't available yet.  Have I
tried to check for Jaws updates earlier?  Well, yes.  Perhaps the
update will be released tomorrow? I expect the check for Jaws updates
to malfunction once in a while, but it keeps malfunctioning too often.



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List <jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com> On
Behalf Of Dennis
Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2018 10:39 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] March jaws 2018 looks exciging

I should've made that more clear in my message.
- Original Message -
From: "Michael Massey" <masse...@q.com>
To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2018 12:29 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] March jaws 2018 looks exciging



The podcast clearly mentions that the unmute feature will be in the
March Jaws 2018 update.



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From: JAWS-Users-List <jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com> On
Behalf Of Dennis
Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2018 9:36 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] March jaws 2018 looks exciging

I like the automatic unmutting of the sound if it gets muted.  When
will this be available?
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Re: [JAWS-Users] March jaws 2018 looks exciging

[Dennis]

I agree hopefully this comes out tomorrow.  I never use the check for 
updates it is not reliable.
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From: "Michael Massey" <masse...@q.com>

To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2018 12:57 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] March jaws 2018 looks exciging



Well, as usual, the check for updates feature did not work, so in
this situation, I checked the website to see if the March Jaws 2018 update
is available.  Nope, sorry Dennis, it isn't available yet.  Have I tried 
to

check for Jaws updates earlier?  Well, yes.  Perhaps the update will be
released tomorrow? I expect the check for Jaws updates to malfunction once
in a while, but it keeps malfunctioning too often.



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List <jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com> On Behalf 
Of

Dennis
Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2018 10:39 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] March jaws 2018 looks exciging

I should've made that more clear in my message.
- Original Message - 
From: "Michael Massey" <masse...@q.com>

To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2018 12:29 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] March jaws 2018 looks exciging



The podcast clearly mentions that the unmute feature will be in the March
Jaws 2018 update.



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Of
Dennis
Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2018 9:36 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] March jaws 2018 looks exciging

I like the automatic unmutting of the sound if it gets muted.  When will
this be available?
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Re: [JAWS-Users] March jaws 2018 looks exciging

[Dennis]

I should've made that more clear in my message.
- Original Message - 
From: "Michael Massey" <masse...@q.com>

To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2018 12:29 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] March jaws 2018 looks exciging



The podcast clearly mentions that the unmute feature will be in the March
Jaws 2018 update.



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Of

Dennis
Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2018 9:36 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] March jaws 2018 looks exciging

I like the automatic unmutting of the sound if it gets muted.  When will
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[JAWS-Users] March jaws 2018 looks exciging

[Dennis]

I like the automatic unmutting of the sound if it gets muted.  When will this 
be available?
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Having a song play when an e-mail is opened?

[Dennis]

I wouldn't want this either.
- Original Message - 
From: "JM Casey" 

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2018 5:00 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Having a song play when an e-mail is opened?


Even if you do all this, it's not guaranteed to work for the recipient. 
Many
people, especially those using older e-mail software, will not view 
messages

in html. I personally would not want something to start playing out of my
speakers when I opened an e-mail message. That, plus the space 
restrictions

involved in sending e-mail, make me think it'd be much simpler and more
practical merely to provide a link to the mp3 in your message.



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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Steve
Sent: March 13, 2018 3:47 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Having a song play when an e-mail is opened?

Depending on which email program you use, you can do that, but if you want
it to open when the email is opened, then you have to make that segment of
your song a .wav file extension.

Once you convert that, you may need to edit down to a size that is less 
than

one MB.

Since you are using Outlook from Office 2010 as your email client, do the
following:


Use MsWord as your editor to create an email message.  In your office
program go
to Tools, Options, Mail tab; mail format.
On that tab, set your message format to HTML, plain-text won't work.
Hit Apply, and OK to Exit the options area.

Now, create a new message.  A dialog will pop up that Word is starting 
your

email editor.  There will be the typical email fields, (I don't know how
well
Jaws will read them -- I haven't tried this in my Office MsWord 2010
version.)

You will need a Web Tools toolbar, which you can make visible by hitting
View,
Toolbars, and finding the Web Tools option.

It will pop-up a small window with various icons.  One of them is the
"Sound"
icon, you may need to simulate a mouseclick on it; it will then pop-up the
background sound option.

You can then hit the Browse button and browse to your St. Patrick's Day
file.  I
said above that it needs to be in .wav format, but in looking around, it
also
supports  .mid, .midi, .au, .rmi, .aif and .aiff.
Many people recommend using .midi.

After you press open on the sound file, you can then choose how many times
you
want that message sound to play -- from one to five times, or to infinite
which
means it will play until the message is closed.




- Original Message - 
From: "Judy Jones" 

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2018 1:15 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Having a song play when an e-mail is opened?



I have seen this done, and would like to send a St. Patrick's Day greeting
that way.



I have the tune in an mp3 format.



Is there any way to do this?



Thanks!



Judy



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Re: [JAWS-Users] WHY UPGRADE TO 2018?

[Dennis]

Not only that by upgrading you get the latest features and current windows10 
features are supported.
- Original Message - 
From: "Rick Justice" 

To: 
Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2018 1:37 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] WHY UPGRADE TO 2018?



Hi John,
Keep in mind, the longer you are out of the loop with the current version,
the more it will cost when you decide to make the change.

HTH,
Rick Justice

"Tomorrow's another day, another way!"
"and if tomorrow never comes, problem solved!"

- Original Message - 
From: 

To: 
Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2018 10:23 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] WHY UPGRADE TO 2018?


Hi group,

I am now using Jaws 18 in its latest configuration.  I just priced out the
upgrade to Jaws 2018 and it will cost me $400 including the SMA.  Before I
make that kind of investment, I'd appreciate it if someone would tell me
whether Jaws 2018 is worth the investment.  I'm happy with jaws 18.   I
would have no objection to upgrading if someone can give me good reasons 
for
that change.  I have been studying the messages on our list and to tell 
you

the truth, what I'm hearing is somewhat discouraging.  Many people are
having issues with 2018.  However, I'd be willing to bet that the same 
thing

happened when Jaws 18 was introduced.  There is always a time where people
have to adjust to new technology or software.



JOHN AND LINDA JUSTICE

WITH GUIDE DOGS EDWIN AND CALYPSOE

PERSONAL E-MAIL: john_just...@verizon.net



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Re: [JAWS-Users] the stars in password fields

[Dennis]

I agree this is my arguement for having an option to speak passwords.  Note 
the word Option.
- Original Message - 
From: "Rebecca Lineberger" 

To: 
Sent: Monday, March 5, 2018 9:04 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] the stars in password fields


The decision has been made, but just a final comment from someone who 
wrote

VFO about this several months ago ...
I can understand the potential problems of a spoken password in the
workplace, but for those using JAWS For Home Use, rather than the
professional version, I can see no security risk.  Many of us who migrated
from Window-Eyes used this feature on our home computers for years without 
a

problem.  There are several physiological conditions, such as arthritis or
neuropathy that could cause someone to have difficulty typing. In these
cases, as well as for anyone of us who might find typing one thing and
hearing another confusing, the person would benefit from hearing the
characters as they typed, especially in those situations where accuracy 
the
first time really mattered.  Smile.  Certainly, copying and pasting is a 
way

around this, but in this case, not only is the password spoken, as it's
typed, but it is displayed on the screen, as it would not have been when 
in

a password edit field.
JMO.
Rebecca

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of net bat66
Sent: Monday, March 05, 2018 7:44 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] the stars in password fields

i don't see a big deal here. the stars are still there if you hear the 
keys

you press or not.
i only want the keys i press to be spoken like window eyes does so i don't
have to keep typeing my passwords in note pad and copying and pasteing 
them

into the password edit box every time.
the stars are not being replaced with the password i type in. it just 
speaks

the keys as i press them. nothing else.
i can not concentrate on the keys i press while it is saying the stars and
not the keys i press.
if you are working, turn the keys off. if not turn them on in settings.



-Original Message-
From: Eric Damery
Sent: Monday, March 05, 2018 1:37 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] the stars in password fields

While it may well be possible that we could add such an option that would
allow the true password being typed, it is also very likely that just 
adding

this option into our software, would cause security minded organizations
such as IRS, SSA, and many other 3 letter organizations, to block those
versions from being deployed. It is part of the reason we have a 
Non-Tandem

build of our software posted also on the web.

Sorry, but this ability to echo Passwords is risky from security 
standpoint

and we will not be adding that one.

Regards,
Eric

Eric Damery
VFO(tm) | VP Software Product Management
11800 31st Court North, St. Petersburg, FL 33716 T 727-299-6110 F
727-803-8001 edam...@vfogroup.com www.vfogroup.com

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Behalf Of Rick Justice
Sent: Monday, March 05, 2018 4:20 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] the stars in password fields


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Re: [JAWS-Users] the stars in password fields

[Dennis]

I see no reason a speak password option couldn't be added in Jaws for those 
that need it.  Have it off by default but it is there for those that need 
it.
- Original Message - 
From: "David Ferrin" 

To: 
Sent: Monday, March 5, 2018 6:36 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] the stars in password fields


I almost always use the copy and paste method. Some of my passwords are 
quite long especially what I use for FTP access to the server. Actually I 
do not even know it as the thing is 40 characters long.


-Original Message- 
From: Roger Newell

Sent: Sunday, March 4, 2018 11:35 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] the stars in password fields

Why is typing the password so difficult? If you are finding that you
need JAWS to speak back each character you are typing because you make
mistakes, I suggest (and please don't interpret this as condescension
or rudeness, because that is not my objective at all) that you buy a
typing program such as Typability or Talking Typer to improve your
typing.

On 3/4/18, net bat66  wrote:

what i would like to see is a way to turn off the stars all together for
passwords and speak the keys i press.
the sites below do not have the option to show the passwords i have typed
in.
i am getting sick and tired of haveing to type my passwords in note pad 
and


copy and pasteing them into the password fields because it won't speak 
the

keys
i press. at least window eyes has the option to  speak the keys i press.
and don't tell me i need to learn how to type without speech. many web 
sites


only give you 3 chances to get the password before you are locked out of 
the


accounts.
my bank ,c v s pharmicy,office of personnel management ,kiser etc.
all require me to call them to prove who i am.. then wait up to 10 days 
for


them to snail mail me a tempory password before i can access these
accounts.
where is the security in this when i have to have someone else read back 
the


pin number  that was mailed to me so i can record them to a voice 
recorder

and
type them in when i get home?

Hi Robin,

I have been experimenting with the, *, dictionary tweak, & Jaws only
reported UnReconciled when typing a password if I tweaked the Default JDF
dictionary manager, but not when I tweaked the Word JDF dictionary 
manager.

The Word JDF dictionary manager was my experimental application.

But, if I changed the tweak to,* , a star then a space, in the default 
JDF

dictionary manager, then used a space after the star in the Word
application
JDF dictionary then everything worked as it should all the way around.

What I'm trying to say is if you want the,*, to say, UnReconciled in a 
home
budgit, then add a space after the star in the application dictionary, 
but

then you'll also have to put a star then a space in front of any entry in
the application as well.

If I've totally confused you by now, just let the list know what
application
you want to use, & I'll type up a set of steps that'll get it done for 
you.


Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In 
the

end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Firefox updates/accessibility

[Dennis]

You need to listen to FS cast 149 FS is actively working with fire fox to 
resolve the issues.  Jaws fixes should be in the March update fire fox will 
be in the may up date of fire fox.
- Original Message - 
From: "wayne smith" 

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2018 3:22 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Firefox updates/accessibility



Hello all-



I am finding more and more websites that do not work well or, in some 
cases,

at all with IE 11.  I have Firefox on my computers but I have stopped
automatic updates because people on this list warned that the more recent
updates are not accessible.  I am now getting warnings that there are
security risks in not updating.  Your thoughts would be appreciated.



Related to Firefox again, when I enter passwords using FF I get this
annoying announcement, "Do you want to have Firefox save this password?"
How do I say no?



Wayne



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Re: [JAWS-Users] ebay help

[Dennis]

I have no problem using firefox esr addition
- Original Message - 
From: "Steve" 

To: 
Sent: Monday, February 19, 2018 5:16 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] ebay help



Basically, yes.

It might also depend on which browser you use, because I can leave proper 
feedback using Chrome on Amazon when I do reviews, but not using IE11.



- Original Message - 
From: "michaeel's mail" 

To: "jaws help list" 
Sent: Sunday, February 18, 2018 6:43 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] ebay help


Hi guys i was wondering how to use jaws properly on ebay to leave feed 
back.
I did it today but jaws kept saying check boxes and 1 out of 5 so not 
much info about each one.
So do  i take it that when jaws says about postage and 5 check boxes that 
1 would be not good and 5 is good.

Cheers Michael.
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[JAWS-Users] FS cast 150 is out

[Dennis]

FS cast 150 is out which talks about some of the new features in Jaws2018 
update.  I think Eric said he was going to post the changes hear as to what is 
new I am looking forward to this update.
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[JAWS-Users] jaws and ITunes

[Dennis]

Hi, how accessible is Jaws and I tunes?
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Researcher

[Dennis]

First it is research it.  What feature of research it is not working?  you 
have Weather USPS tracking   etc.  Please be more specific so people can 
better assist you.
- Original Message - 
From: "Holger Fiallo" 

To: 
Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2018 6:57 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Researcher



Noticed that Researcher is not working. Using W10, JAWS 2018.

Holger Fiallo
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Re: [JAWS-Users] OE classic and jaws 18.

[Dennis]

there are scripts at hartgen.org
- Original Message - 
From: "jimrawls" 

To: "jaws users list" 
Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2018 1:31 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] OE classic and jaws 18.



Hi all, I am thinking of installing OE classic on my windows ten computer.
And I have questions.

Is it easy to install? Are there scripts for it, and where do I get them?
And is there any special things to watch for while installing the program? 
I
googled it and found OE classic 2.7 and saved the download for it. Will 
this

version work with jaws 18? If not, what version does work with jaws 18?
Thanks for all your help. Jim

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Hotkey to get rid of ad on Youtube

[Dennis Long]

where do you find these scripts?
- Original Message - 
From: "Fernando Gregoire" 

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2018 7:23 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Hotkey to get rid of ad on Youtube



YouTube itself doesn't have a keystroke for skipping ads.
But if you have the JAWS scripts for Youtube from Dough Lee, you can press 
the Command key, by default the left bracket, and then the letter S. This 
is valid for the script in English with an English keyboard layout; 
keystroke in other script languages and/or keyboard layouts may be 
different.


Hope it helps!

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
Behalf Of Mr. Ed

Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2018 5:38 PM
To: JAWS-Users-List 2 
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Hotkey to get rid of ad on Youtube

Hi,

Is there a hotkey to get rid of the ads in Youtube?

Ed

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