Re: [JAWS-Users] using Edge with jaws

[Merv Keck]

I get the same error message. Can you send the link again? I also cannot find 
it on the page when I go there and look for it myself.
Merv


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of 
Mike B.
Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2018 3:47 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] using Edge with jaws

Hi Bob,

The link in the email works perfectly for me.  Pressed enter on it, and the 
download dialogue popped right up!

Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sennt from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the end 
you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
- Original Message -
From: Bob Hicks
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2018 5:45 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] using Edge with jaws


OK, Mike.  Unfortunately, I get the message that the file may have been moved 
or replaced.  thanks

Have a great day, 73

Bob Hicks, KC8CR


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Mike B.
Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2018 2:58 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] using Edge with jaws

Hi Bob,

It's on the Tips & Tricks page under the Internet heading.  The download link 
is below.
27.  Using The Edge Browser With JAWS
Updated by Kevin Lee 7/17/2018

http://www.jaws-users.com/text/Internet/UsingTheEdgeBrowserWithJAWS.zip

Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sennt from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the end 
you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
- Original Message -
From: Bob Hicks
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2018 10:56 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] using Edge with jaws


I am on the web site, but I see where I go to Jaws help archives.  It is 
liking I am blind or something.  How about a little direction?  thanks

Have a great day, 73

Bob Hicks, KC8CR


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
Behalf Of Kevin Lee
Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2018 8:14 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] using Edge with jaws

David posted it on the jaws help archives!

E-mail is golden!!!
Kevin Lee

From: Panagiotis Antonopoulos
Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2018 4:39 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] using Edge with jaws

Hi Kevin/all,Thanks for the reply. Sadly I don't seem to have received a 
zipped attachment recently, though I received the edge tutorial's page ages 
ago. Anyway, if there were an attachment, maybe, a list member might forward 
it again. Otherwise I shall look for it on the web, as I have bookmarked the 
relevant page.
Tanks
Takis

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
Behalf Of Kevin Lee
Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2018 2:28 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] using Edge with jaws

I sent the zipped tutorial to the list one final time, and I think David 
will post it on the help page!

E-mail is golden!!!
Kevin Lee

From: Panagiotis Antonopoulos
Sent: Monday, July 16, 2018 11:08 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] using Edge with jaws

Hi all,
I did not receive any zip file of the edge tutorial. Am I missing something?
Greetings from Athens,
Takis

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
Behalf Of Kevin Lee
Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2018 5:01 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] using Edge with jaws

Sure I’d like something I did on the help list, but I’m pretty sure the zip 
that I did is the one that includes the whole tutorial.

E-mail is golden!!!
Kevin Lee

From: Mike B.
Sent: Monday, July 16, 2018 6:38 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] using Edge with jaws

Hi Kevin,

I don't know if you read the owners message, but Mr. Ferrin would like to 
put your / David's tutorial up on the Jaws-Users website, but he needs your 
permission to do so.  Can he put it up on the servor?  Thanks mooy moocho.
Take Care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sent from my iBarstool.
If you can smile when things go wrong, you have someone in mind to blame.
- Original Message -
From: Kevin Lee
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Monday, July 16, 2018 6:30 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] using Edge with jaws


This is a tutorial originally written by David More on how to use Edge with 
NVDA and Narrator, I just modified it to include usage with jaws.  I tested 
it and it works according to the tutorial.  This is a second post of it 
because I didn’t do it correctly the first time!

https://1drv.ms/f/s!Aps5BdFqVPrc5g9Wd7OMddZwC5MD

E-mail is golden!!!
Kevin Lee

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Re: [JAWS-Users] possible bug in edge and jaws latest build

[Merv Keck]

I just tried it with Jaws 2018 and Windows 10 Home 64 bit. It worked
perfectly with Edge.
Maybe the site was having issues when you tried it?
Merv


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of
Michael Amaro
Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2018 11:22 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] possible bug in edge and jaws latest build

Hello Listers,

Yesterday night, I downloaded and installed jaws 2018 on my windows 10 pro
64 bit machine.  This morning I Went to:

www.speedtest.net

I waited for the page to load, once the page loaded I pressed jaws key plus
f7 pressed the letter c for change server.  Tried pressing jaws key plus f7
to pick a server close to me.  Jaws came back with no links.

thanks

Michael

Email:

mikeam...@earthlink.net

iPhone:

mikeam...@icloud.com
JFK"
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Focus 14 versus 40

[Merv Keck]

Hi,
It is definitely a matter of personal preference versus what you are going
to use it for as well as what you can afford. I have a Focus 14 and I am
very happy with it. However, I often read documents with a lot of technical
words that make me wish I had a 40 cell display. And I have used the Focus
40 a few times and wish I could afford to go get one today.
Merv


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mike Mote
Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2017 10:58 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Focus 14 versus 40

I would say that it is apersonal preference.  I use the Focus 40 classic
braille display every day, and I love it.  The focus 14 fits needs of
certain people, but I didn't like it.  Again, it's a personal preference.
I'm not saying it's bad.  I just prefer a 40 cell display as opposed to a 14
cell display.


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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Crystal
Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2017 10:50 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Focus 14 versus 40

I am having the hardest time deciding if I want the Focus 14 or 40. Can
everybody tell me what to do? Which one to get? Anyway, just having a hard
time deciding. 

Crystal




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Re: [JAWS-Users] When in the address bar in IE

[Merv Keck]

I usually Shift + Tab. If I want to go right up to the top then I tap
control + Home because once I tapped the Shift + Tab that put me at the
bottom of the web page.

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Behalf Of Mr. Ed
Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2017 8:56 PM
To: JAWS-Users-List 2 
Subject: [JAWS-Users] When in the address bar in IE

Hi All,

When a person is in the address bar in IE 11 is there a way to get back to
the webpage without tabbing all the way down? I know sometimes when I go to
a website it puts me in the address bar in IE 11. I want to be able to get
to the website out of the address bar without tabbing a bunch of times. Just
wondering how you guys all do it.

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Re: [JAWS-Users] ElBraille questions.

[Merv Keck]

That is a really good question and I really wish I knew. I just sent a
message asking someone who is associated with the development of the El
Braille. I thought he was on this list. I will ask him to join if he is not.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Judy Jones
Sent: Saturday, March 11, 2017 3:11 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] ElBraille questions.

Thank you very much for your help and information.  I will check out the
site.

Another consideration is if this device will update along with the Microsoft
updates, and the gentleman I spoke with did not have that information
either.

>From what I understand, the Polaris' onboard apps will upgrade with firmware
upgrades, but that if you choose to download that same app from the play
store, it will update when Google does its updates.

Judy


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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Merv Keck
Sent: Saturday, March 11, 2017 12:30 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] ElBraille questions.

Hi,
Have you checked out this site?
http://elbraille.com

I think with any device, it depends on what you are going to use it with
that ultimately justifies which one would be best. I just had a similar
conversation with someone when ask to consult on the decision to purchase a
Focus display and an iPad  or wait until one of the L Braille devices comes
out.
After discussing what they did on a daily basis both for work and play, and
what devices they already owned, I advised them to wait for the L Braille
14.
I have a 128 GB iPad Mini 4 which I pay $32 a month for on my phone plan.
Eventually I will trade that in for a newer tablet. I already own a focus
display. And I like it very much. This is not my primary laptop. That is a
Windows 10 Home 64 bit machine with two internal drives and 16 GB of ram. It
is my primary home computer. I would not want an L Braille to be my primary
home computer. But maybe that is just me.
There is a gentlemen on some of the technical lists who is involved with the
L Braille. I will see if I can point him this way. I know he is on one of
these Jaws lists.
Merv


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Judy Jones
Sent: Saturday, March 11, 2017 1:30 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] ElBraille questions.

Hi again.

I actually did some checking today with VFO, and the El Braille is actually
a docking station for the focus 40 or 14.  A docking station with memory
storage.  The price, $1795.

Here is my question.  If you get a laptop, say, for $800, add in $995, I
believe it is for Jaws, that would come to roughly the same price, but you
would have probably a terabite of memory on the PC, only 160 GB on the
ElBraille.  What would be the incentive for bying this docking station with
memory, other than size advantage?  I asked the salesman to help me
understand that rationale so I could hellp sell the idea to our agency.  He
could not come up with anything.  Am I missing something here?

Judy


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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Bob
Sent: Friday, March 10, 2017 6:03 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] ElBraille questions.

Judy

The ElBraille is essentially a Windows 10 PC in a notetaker sized package.

You can use Internet Explorer or Firefox.

If you already use Jaws on a PC with a braille display then the experience
should be the same.

I havent used the Polaris so I cant comment on any differences.

Bob


On 10/03/2017 12:45, Judy Jones wrote:
> Thank you.  I would like to hear anyone's experiences with the 
> ElBraille, and I would like to know what the browser is.  How does is 
> compare with, say, the new Hims Polaris
>
> Judy
> ?
>
> -Original Message-
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> On Behalf Of Moderator
> Sent: Friday, March 10, 2017 5:09 AM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] ElBraille questions.
>
> Hi Judy,
> Anything that is related to Jaws is on-topic for this list.
>
> Richard Q. Justice-list moderator
> jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Judy Jones" <sonshine...@gmail.com>
> To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
> Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2017 8:13 PM
> Subject: [JAWS-Users] ElBraille questions.
>
>
> Are any curiosity questions appropriate here, since El Braille also 
> uses Jaws?
>
>   
>
> Judy
>
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Re: [JAWS-Users] ElBraille questions.

[Merv Keck]

There is a model for the 14 and one for the 40 Focus display. Both are
expected in the United States by the end of the second Quarter.
Another great source is the FSCast by Jonathan Mosen and Ron Miller on the
El Braille that was recently broadcast.
I do not work for VFO so I can't speak to trade in deals. However, they have
stated on several podcasts that you do not need to purchase Jaws or another
focus display if you already have them. You will only need to purchase the
El Braille itself. As for the display, there is an HDMI port which you would
use if you wish to have a video display connected.
I would love to play with one while it is connected to my 60 inch HDTV,
laughs!
Hope that helps,
Merv


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Judy Jones
Sent: Saturday, March 11, 2017 3:20 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] ElBraille questions.

Okay, very interesting.  I checked out the site, thank you.

The salesman I spoke with did not tell me that the display comes as part of
the ElBraille, thus, my questions about the cost, which leads to another
question.

If one already has the Focus 14 blue, can you purchase just the docking
station by itself?

Also, if one has the focus 40, can it be traded in for the ElBraille?

I also was not understanding that the ElBraille was for the Focus 14 only,
and I don't think my sales person did either.  I realize the device is that
new.

Thanks for steering me in the right direction for information.

Judy

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Merv Keck
Sent: Saturday, March 11, 2017 12:30 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] ElBraille questions.

Hi,
Have you checked out this site?
http://elbraille.com

I think with any device, it depends on what you are going to use it with
that ultimately justifies which one would be best. I just had a similar
conversation with someone when ask to consult on the decision to purchase a
Focus display and an iPad  or wait until one of the L Braille devices comes
out.
After discussing what they did on a daily basis both for work and play, and
what devices they already owned, I advised them to wait for the L Braille
14.
I have a 128 GB iPad Mini 4 which I pay $32 a month for on my phone plan.
Eventually I will trade that in for a newer tablet. I already own a focus
display. And I like it very much. This is not my primary laptop. That is a
Windows 10 Home 64 bit machine with two internal drives and 16 GB of ram. It
is my primary home computer. I would not want an L Braille to be my primary
home computer. But maybe that is just me.
There is a gentlemen on some of the technical lists who is involved with the
L Braille. I will see if I can point him this way. I know he is on one of
these Jaws lists.
Merv


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Judy Jones
Sent: Saturday, March 11, 2017 1:30 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] ElBraille questions.

Hi again.

I actually did some checking today with VFO, and the El Braille is actually
a docking station for the focus 40 or 14.  A docking station with memory
storage.  The price, $1795.

Here is my question.  If you get a laptop, say, for $800, add in $995, I
believe it is for Jaws, that would come to roughly the same price, but you
would have probably a terabite of memory on the PC, only 160 GB on the
ElBraille.  What would be the incentive for bying this docking station with
memory, other than size advantage?  I asked the salesman to help me
understand that rationale so I could hellp sell the idea to our agency.  He
could not come up with anything.  Am I missing something here?

Judy


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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Bob
Sent: Friday, March 10, 2017 6:03 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] ElBraille questions.

Judy

The ElBraille is essentially a Windows 10 PC in a notetaker sized package.

You can use Internet Explorer or Firefox.

If you already use Jaws on a PC with a braille display then the experience
should be the same.

I havent used the Polaris so I cant comment on any differences.

Bob


On 10/03/2017 12:45, Judy Jones wrote:
> Thank you.  I would like to hear anyone's experiences with the 
> ElBraille, and I would like to know what the browser is.  How does is 
> compare with, say, the new Hims Polaris
>
> Judy
> ?
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
> On Behalf Of Moderator
> Sent: Friday, March 10, 2017 5:09 AM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] ElBraille questions.
>
> Hi Judy,
> Anything that is related to Jaws is on-topic for this list.
&g

Re: [JAWS-Users] ElBraille questions.

[Merv Keck]

Hi,
Have you checked out this site?
http://elbraille.com

I think with any device, it depends on what you are going to use it with
that ultimately justifies which one would be best. I just had a similar
conversation with someone when ask to consult on the decision to purchase a
Focus display and an iPad  or wait until one of the L Braille devices comes
out.
After discussing what they did on a daily basis both for work and play, and
what devices they already owned, I advised them to wait for the L Braille
14.
I have a 128 GB iPad Mini 4 which I pay $32 a month for on my phone plan.
Eventually I will trade that in for a newer tablet. I already own a focus
display. And I like it very much. This is not my primary laptop. That is a
Windows 10 Home 64 bit machine with two internal drives and 16 GB of ram. It
is my primary home computer. I would not want an L Braille to be my primary
home computer. But maybe that is just me.
There is a gentlemen on some of the technical lists who is involved with the
L Braille. I will see if I can point him this way. I know he is on one of
these Jaws lists.
Merv


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Judy Jones
Sent: Saturday, March 11, 2017 1:30 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] ElBraille questions.

Hi again.

I actually did some checking today with VFO, and the El Braille is actually
a docking station for the focus 40 or 14.  A docking station with memory
storage.  The price, $1795.

Here is my question.  If you get a laptop, say, for $800, add in $995, I
believe it is for Jaws, that would come to roughly the same price, but you
would have probably a terabite of memory on the PC, only 160 GB on the
ElBraille.  What would be the incentive for bying this docking station with
memory, other than size advantage?  I asked the salesman to help me
understand that rationale so I could hellp sell the idea to our agency.  He
could not come up with anything.  Am I missing something here?

Judy


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Bob
Sent: Friday, March 10, 2017 6:03 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] ElBraille questions.

Judy

The ElBraille is essentially a Windows 10 PC in a notetaker sized package.

You can use Internet Explorer or Firefox.

If you already use Jaws on a PC with a braille display then the experience
should be the same.

I havent used the Polaris so I cant comment on any differences.

Bob


On 10/03/2017 12:45, Judy Jones wrote:
> Thank you.  I would like to hear anyone's experiences with the 
> ElBraille, and I would like to know what the browser is.  How does is 
> compare with, say, the new Hims Polaris
>
> Judy
> ?
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] 
> On Behalf Of Moderator
> Sent: Friday, March 10, 2017 5:09 AM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] ElBraille questions.
>
> Hi Judy,
> Anything that is related to Jaws is on-topic for this list.
>
> Richard Q. Justice-list moderator
> jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Judy Jones" 
> To: 
> Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2017 8:13 PM
> Subject: [JAWS-Users] ElBraille questions.
>
>
> Are any curiosity questions appropriate here, since El Braille also 
> uses Jaws?
>
>   
>
> Judy
>
>   
>
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Re: [JAWS-Users] YouTube to MP3

[Merv Keck]

YouTube BLG is accessible with Jaws. I don't have a link for it but it works
very well. It does not have all the options that the one you mentioned has
but it does a very good job. It even does playlists without a premium
subscription.
Hope that helps.
Merv


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Behalf Of Gene Warner
Sent: Tuesday, January 3, 2017 12:37 PM
To: JAWS Users 
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Youtube to MP3

Hi everyone!

Does anyone know of an accessible Youtube to MP3 convertor? The one I just
looked at had an installer that was loaded down with third party programs
with opt out options that weren't accessible, so I canceled the install.
That one was from DVD Video Soft.

Another one that I looked at from Free Make wasn't accessible.

I used to use Youtube to MP3 convertor.org but for the past several months,
all it does is throw up a message about maintenance and to try again in an
hour or so.

It doesn't have to be free, though that would be nice.

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Freedom Scientific in the news

[Merv Keck]

Wow! I live ten minutes from Freedom Scientific. If make a wish called me I
would want to meet Tim Tebow or Nick Sabin. Laughs!

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Behalf Of wayne smith
Sent: Monday, January 2, 2017 11:02 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Freedom Scientific in the news

Hello gang!

 

I was watching the news this evening here in Chicago on Channel 9 WGN.  They
were talking about a young man who was born very premature and without eyes.
He had an organ transplant in 2009 and made it to the ripe old age of 18.
"Make A Wish Foundation"  wanted to send him anywhere in the world he wanted
to go.  What was his choice?  He wanted to visit St. Petersburg Fl. to thank
the people at FS for JAWS which allows him to use a computer and connect
with people all over the world.  I tend to take JAWS for granted but it is
an amazing program for us.  The people from Make a Wish said that this is
the first time a recipient has asked to be taken somewhere to thank
somebody.  Andrew-you rock!

 

Wayne

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Re: [JAWS-Users] I can't install any programs, because user account control is not reading.

[Merv Keck]

If you are using Windows 10, try selecting Windows + Tab. Then arrow left or
right until you hear Jaws say User Account Control and select enter.
Sometimes during an installation the UAC gets pushed behind after it is
initiated and you need to bring it forward again.  At least that has been my
experience. 
Once the User Account Control is in focus again you can tab to yes or select
Alt + Y and continue.

Hope that helps.
Merv
 

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of jim rawls
Sent: Thursday, December 8, 2016 5:24 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] I can't install any programs, because user account
control is not reading.

Hi all,

I just installed the latest jaws update. I'm trying to install malware bites
from minite. Jaws says user account control, and I should be able to tab
three times to a yes button, and hit enter, but jaws isn't telling me
anything after it says user account control. How do I get jaws to act
normally so I can install this program, because even when I tab over three
times to where the yes button should be, nothing happens. Thanks in advance
for your help. Jim

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Stopping jaws from saying command keys.

[Merv Keck]

Did you tap Control Shift D to enter default mode before you attempted to
modify the settings?

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Lev
Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2016 7:41 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Stopping jaws from saying command keys.

hi Mike,

thanks for replying,

but it turns out I already had tryed this setting with no result.  When I
try to mute this specific keys, for example, control key, windows key, enter
key, jaws prompted me this is not allowed since these are command keys using
in combination to others keys.


I think forgot to say, I am using jaws 17.  I can't assure if this was
hapenning in previous jaws versions, but as far as I recall it wasn't.


any other  suggestion will be  appreciated.

tahnks.



El 19/10/2016 a las 16:32, Mike B. escribió:
> Hi Leb,
> Try the following:
> Try the following:
> 1. Open the Settings Center with, Insert + 6 on the number row, & press,
> Control, Shift + D, to open Settings Center Default All Applications.
> 2. Arrow down to, Keyboard, & press right arrow to open.
> 3. Arrow down to, Manage Key Labels, & press the spacebar to open.
> Note:  Do not press enter, pressing enter will close the Settings Center.
> 4. After pressing the spacebar you will be in a list of keys.  Arrow down
to
> the key you want to mute, & Tab 1 time to the, Toggle Mute Button, & press
> the spacebar to mute.  You'll hear Jaws announce, for example the Tab key,
> Tab Tab mute.
> 5. Tab to, Okay, press the spacebar, tab to, Apply, press the spacebar,
tab
> to, Okay, & press enter to save your change & close the Settings Center.
> Take care.
> Mike
> Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!
> - Original Message -
> From: Lev
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2016 1:46 PM
> Subject: [JAWS-Users] Stopping jaws from saying command keys.
>
>
> Hi to all,
> how do I stop jaws from saying "enter" every time I hit enter key. This
> also happens with using  any other command key like "control", or even
> windows key.
>
>
> thanks for any info.
>
>
>

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Contacting FS support

[Merv Keck]

Hi,
That is a valid email address. It stands for Vector-freedom scientific
Optalek group. Jonathan Mosen spoke a few months ago on an FS cast about the
merger of these entities. This is just a further reflection of that merger.
Freedom scientific is still freedom Scientific. However, if you contact them
via email or phone you will hear VFO rather than FS in order to better
reflect their expanded line of products and services.


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of wayne smith
Sent: Saturday, May 7, 2016 3:19 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Contacting FS support

Hello to all-

 

I just sent a request to freedom scientific support as I have in the past
because when I open some emails they are in an inaccessible table format and
I use the Alt-H then x then v command to open temporary internet file to
read it with my JAWS 15.  Recently I have started getting a warning; You are
opening this message in a browser and your security settings are different
from Outlook and you may be putting your computer at risk.

 

I sent an email to FS support and the acknowledgement came back with an
unfamiliar address as follows: supp...@vfo-group.com

Is this a new address to use or could my email been diverted?

 

Wayne

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Vipre 2016 & JAWS

[Merv Keck]

used to the new interface.  2 questions.
1. I can't seem to get the hang of scheduling a scan, would y'all please
give me some steps to follow?
2. If Vipre quarantines something, how do I tell Vipre 2016 that I want to
allow it?

I'm running Windows 7 Pro & Jaws 15 thru 17 latest.  All help will be
greatly appreciated.  Thanks much.
Take care.
Mike
Remember folks, it's tax time!  If you add, IRS to the word, the, you get "T
H E I R S".  That spells THEIRS!
- Original Message - 
From: Merv Keck
To: blindt...@groups.io
Sent: Saturday, April 09, 2016 8:01 AM
Subject: Re: [BlindTech] thoughts on the new viper update.


No I just checked and there have been a couple of little changes since the
last time I spoke with them. It says progress bar for me. Usually my systems
scans are on a schedule so I didn't notice. If I scan a file or folder
intentionally I check in antivirus history to see the result.

-Original Message-
From: Mario [mailto:mrb...@hotmail.com]
Sent: Saturday, April 9, 2016 10:43 AM
To: blindt...@groups.io
Subject: Re: [BlindTech] thoughts on the new viper update.

Merv, do you find that you need to use the JAWS cursor a lot?
if you run a scan on a drive, can you monitor it's progress and results once
the scan is  finished?
if something suspicious is detected, how can it be dealt with?

--- Original Message 
From: Merv Keck
Sent: Saturday, Apr 9, 2016 10:22:14 AM EST
To: blindt...@groups.io
Subject: [BlindTech] thoughts on the new viper update.

Hi,
I have called and spoken with them down here in Clearwater, Florida. They
are not far from Freedom Scientific and their tech support people for the
most part are very aware of screen readers and how to give support to the
visually impaired. Two of their techs have informed me that the only major
benefit of viper 2016 Pro is that because it is largely cloud based it is
faster and leaves less of a footprint on your local machine both in space
and in resources. They said this will benefit older and slower machines.
However if you are running a jam-packed system with plenty of RAM and plenty
of HD you won't notice much of a difference if any. I called them because I
had received a coupon to upgrade and I was concerned because before when I
had other antivirus suites that moved to the cloud they became unusable. I
was assured by two techs that this was not going to be an issue that the
program itself was not going cloud based like other programs for other
companies have done.
I use Vipre Internet Security 2016 and I have had no issues with
accessibility. Although last night I did go to the support page online to
see how to do something and when I got to step nine it said something like
look at this picture and configure your computer like the picture in this
box. I'm thinking ok who thought that one up? Laughs!
I plan to call them Monday and discuss that one with them even though I
fixed the issue without the picture in the box.
Hope that helps.
Merv


-Original Message-
From: Mario [mailto:mrb...@hotmail.com]
Sent: Saturday, April 9, 2016 10:05 AM
To: blindt...@groups.io
Subject: Re: [BlindTech] thoughts on the new viper update.

Chris, what version is it, 2016, 2017 or Pro? I think Pro is cloud based and
it applies only for Internet Security for now, that's why I ask.
also if you could, give the exact version number.

--- Original Message 
From: Chris Judd
Sent: Friday, Apr 8, 2016 11:48:46 PM EST
To: blindt...@groups.io
Subject: [BlindTech] thoughts on the new viper update.

Hey all,
I just updated to the new viper that just came out, and for the most part,
it is accessible with jaws.  It is a new layout, but it is easy to manage,
once you get the hang of it.
Anyone else have any thoughts?
Thanks,
Chris



















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Re: [JAWS-Users] Vipre 2016 & JAWS

[Merv Keck]

Mike,
I hope this answers one of your questions. Bear with me as I am using Magic
at 24x and sometimes screen readers will read one thing when visually it
appears as something else. This is not a screen reader issue but just the
way things are coded or labeled. And I have virtually no useable vision
left. But I can use Magic a little each day. Thankfully, for paying bills
and other things where I lack confidence.
This one is for Manually Scheduling a Scan:
1. Open Vipre 2016.
2. If My Vipre Navigation tab is not selected then select that and tap
enter.
3. Tab to Manage scheduled Scans and tap enter.
4. Tab around or shift + tab until you find New Scan. Visually this looks
like a plus sign and says add new and is a button. Press spacebar and you
are in the edit scan manually. In there you can schedule your own scans by
specifying the time and type and all necessary criteria.
There is a button you tab too for done when you are finished.
If you notice only right and left arrows consistently work in touch cursor
mode in manage scan as well. But you will get more info than in Pc cursor
mode.
Hope that helps.
Merv

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: Monday, April 11, 2016 12:17 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Vipre 2016 & JAWS

Hi Kevin,

If you're hearing that Vipre has just started a scan, that is because you
installed it & forgot about it!  Well, I like to have a little more
knowledge & control about what Vipre might find as Malware or whatever else,
& I don't want little programs quarantined / removed that I use on a regular
basis being quarantined / removed without me knowing about it.  &, if they
are quarantined, I would like to know how to tell Vipre to allow them.  I
can navigate Vipre 2016, okay, but I just can't quite wrap my head around
setting up a scheduled scan , or getting quarantined items out of
quarantine.  I know we all have different ways of operating our own
computers, but please don't tell me I should just use the default settings
because you are doing that.
Take care.
Mike
Remember folks, it's tax time!  If you add, IRS to the word, the, you get "T
H E I R S".  That spells THEIRS!
- Original Message -
From: Kevin
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Sunday, April 10, 2016 6:12 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Vipre 2016 & JAWS


Imost settings are default, setting up a schredule scan not sure I don't use
it.  I think vipre sets one up for you, because every now and then jaws will
announce vipre has started a scan, we're just letting you know vipre is
protecting you!  so you really don't need to change settings, I just
installed mine and forgot it.
in other words vipre has become a install it and forget it.

-Original Message-
From: Mike B
Sent: Sunday, April 10, 2016 12:14 PM
To: Jaws-Users List
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Vipre 2016 & JAWS

Hi JAWS & Fellow Vipre Users,

I just updated to the 2016 version a week or so ago, & I'm trying to get
used to the new interface.  2 questions.
1. I can't seem to get the hang of scheduling a scan, would y'all please
give me some steps to follow?
2. If Vipre quarantines something, how do I tell Vipre 2016 that I want to
allow it?

I'm running Windows 7 Pro & Jaws 15 thru 17 latest.  All help will be
greatly appreciated.  Thanks much.
Take care.
Mike
Remember folks, it's tax time!  If you add, IRS to the word, the, you get "T
H E I R S".  That spells THEIRS!
- Original Message -
From: Merv Keck
To: blindt...@groups.io
Sent: Saturday, April 09, 2016 8:01 AM
Subject: Re: [BlindTech] thoughts on the new viper update.


No I just checked and there have been a couple of little changes since the
last time I spoke with them. It says progress bar for me. Usually my systems
scans are on a schedule so I didn't notice. If I scan a file or folder
intentionally I check in antivirus history to see the result.

-Original Message-
From: Mario [mailto:mrb...@hotmail.com]
Sent: Saturday, April 9, 2016 10:43 AM
To: blindt...@groups.io
Subject: Re: [BlindTech] thoughts on the new viper update.

Merv, do you find that you need to use the JAWS cursor a lot?
if you run a scan on a drive, can you monitor it's progress and results once
the scan is  finished?
if something suspicious is detected, how can it be dealt with?

--- Original Message 
From: Merv Keck
Sent: Saturday, Apr 9, 2016 10:22:14 AM EST
To: blindt...@groups.io
Subject: [BlindTech] thoughts on the new viper update.

Hi,
I have called and spoken with them down here in Clearwater, Florida. They
are not far from Freedom Scientific and their tech support people for the
most part are very aware of screen readers and how to give support to the
visually impaired. Two of their techs have informed me that the only major
benefit of viper 2016 Pro is that because it is largely cloud based it is
faster and le

Re: [JAWS-Users] Vipre 2016 & JAWS

[Merv Keck]

Hi,
Threat Track informed me today that they are aware that accessibility has
recently taken a hit with screen readers. The individual I spoke to alleges
that last year viper began being coded using a different programming
language and while this allowed them to improve the application, it also
made some changes that caused difficulties for the screen reader user. I
have been advised that if by phone or by support ticket on their web site I
should reference both Jaws and an individual named Ethan. Apparently this
Ethan has now been given the task of gathering information from the blind
community when an issue arises and he also attempts to provide tech support.
Like any escalation tech, the trick is finding time in Ethan's schedule to
have an intelligent discussion. Threat Track also sent me an email with
similar information and said they home that sometime in a future release
they can improve accessibility again. Good intentions but not entirely
helpful.


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mario
Sent: Monday, April 11, 2016 9:47 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Vipre 2016 & JAWS

I would also like to know, but I would also like to know, if suspicious
files have been detected during a scan, can a blind user use the vertical
cursor keys to arrow thru a list and react accordingly, or does one have to
wait until the scan and go thru the "quarantined" list.

 Original Message 
From: Mike B
Sent: Monday, Apr 11, 2016 12:16:54 AM EST
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Vipre 2016 & JAWS

Hi Kevin,

If you're hearing that Vipre has just started a scan, that is because you
installed it & forgot about it!  Well, I like to have a little more
knowledge & control about what Vipre might find as Malware or whatever else,
& I don't want little programs quarantined / removed that I use on a regular
basis being quarantined / removed without me knowing about it.  &, if they
are quarantined, I would like to know how to tell Vipre to allow them.  I
can navigate Vipre 2016, okay, but I just can't quite wrap my head around
setting up a scheduled scan , or getting quarantined items out of
quarantine.  I know we all have different ways of operating our own
computers, but please don't tell me I should just use the default settings
because you are doing that.
Take care.
Mike
Remember folks, it's tax time!  If you add, IRS to the word, the, you get "T
H E I R S".  That spells THEIRS!
- Original Message -
From: Kevin
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Sunday, April 10, 2016 6:12 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Vipre 2016 & JAWS


Imost settings are default, setting up a schredule scan not sure I don't use
it.  I think vipre sets one up for you, because every now and then jaws will
announce vipre has started a scan, we're just letting you know vipre is
protecting you!  so you really don't need to change settings, I just
installed mine and forgot it.
in other words vipre has become a install it and forget it.

-Original Message-
From: Mike B
Sent: Sunday, April 10, 2016 12:14 PM
To: Jaws-Users List
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Vipre 2016 & JAWS

Hi JAWS & Fellow Vipre Users,

I just updated to the 2016 version a week or so ago, & I'm trying to get
used to the new interface.  2 questions.
1. I can't seem to get the hang of scheduling a scan, would y'all please
give me some steps to follow?
2. If Vipre quarantines something, how do I tell Vipre 2016 that I want to
allow it?

I'm running Windows 7 Pro & Jaws 15 thru 17 latest.  All help will be
greatly appreciated.  Thanks much.
Take care.
Mike
Remember folks, it's tax time!  If you add, IRS to the word, the, you get "T
H E I R S".  That spells THEIRS!
- Original Message -
From: Merv Keck
To: blindt...@groups.io
Sent: Saturday, April 09, 2016 8:01 AM
Subject: Re: [BlindTech] thoughts on the new viper update.


No I just checked and there have been a couple of little changes since the
last time I spoke with them. It says progress bar for me. Usually my systems
scans are on a schedule so I didn't notice. If I scan a file or folder
intentionally I check in antivirus history to see the result.

-Original Message-
From: Mario [mailto:mrb...@hotmail.com]
Sent: Saturday, April 9, 2016 10:43 AM
To: blindt...@groups.io
Subject: Re: [BlindTech] thoughts on the new viper update.

Merv, do you find that you need to use the JAWS cursor a lot?
if you run a scan on a drive, can you monitor it's progress and results once
the scan is  finished?
if something suspicious is detected, how can it be dealt with?

--- Original Message 
From: Merv Keck
Sent: Saturday, Apr 9, 2016 10:22:14 AM EST
To: blindt...@groups.io
Subject: [BlindTech] thoughts on the new viper update.

Hi,
I have called and spoken with them down here in Clearwater, Florida. They
are 

Re: [JAWS-Users] Checking windows update status in w-10 withJaws 17.0.1806

[Merv Keck]

Usually in the touch cursor I only do what I need to do and get out. I haven't 
done much more than necessary. I simply meant that I would experiment with the 
other reading commands when not in the PC cursor and see what the advantage may 
be.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of TheHangMan
Sent: Sunday, April 10, 2016 2:02 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Checking windows update status in w-10 withJaws 
17.0.1806

Hi,
I'm not being argumentative, but those are jaws basic reading commands,

Jorge

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Merv Keck
Sent: Sunday, April 10, 2016 1:15 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Checking windows update status in w-10 withJaws 
17.0.1806

Thanks Mike. There were one or two of those I haven't played with yet. I will 
practice them for kicks.


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Mike B
Sent: Saturday, April 9, 2016 11:49 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Checking windows update status in w-10 withJaws 
17.0.1806

Hi Jim & Merv,

Since someone will ask, what are the Touch Cursor keystrokes?, Well here you
go:

table with 2 columns and 13 rows
Touch Cursor
SHIFT+NUM PAD PLUS
Next Object
RIGHT ARROW or TAB
Prior Object
LEFT ARROW or SHIFT+TAB
Next Object by Type
DOWN ARROW
Prior Object by Type
UP ARROW
Cycle Through Object Navigation Types
PAGE UP or PAGE DOWN
First Object
CTRL+HOME
Last Object
CTRL+END
Say Current Object
INSERT+UP ARROW
Say All with Touch Cursor
INSERT+DOWN ARROW
Route Touch Cursor to Focused Object
INSERT+NUM PAD PLUS
Text Review
NUM PAD SLASH or INSERT+ENTER
Advanced Navigation
NUM PAD STAR
table end

Take care.
Mike
Remember folks, it's tax time!  If you add, IRS to the word, the, you get "T H 
E I R S".  That spells THEIRS!
- Original Message -----
From: Merv Keck
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Saturday, April 09, 2016 4:23 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Checking windows update status in w-10 withJaws
17.0.1806


The touch cursor is how I have been doing it for months. I also use the touch 
cursor with several other applications when the PC cursor does not give me 
sufficient feedback. Since I have been teaching this method for months I will 
go ahead and answer the question someone will ask eventually. 
No you do not need a touch screen to use the touch cursor. Laughs!


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Jim
Sent: Saturday, April 9, 2016 4:56 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Checking windows update status in w-10 with Jaws
17.0.1806

Hi Jaws Users group.
I have just figured out how to get Jaws 17.0.1806, to read the status of our
w-10 updates.
Just do the following:
1. Press Windows key+I, for the settings area of w-10.
2. Press the Right arrow key or press the End key to, Update and security, 
press enter.
Now the sub category, windows update is already selected for you.
3. Tab one time to, Check for updates, don’t do anything.
4. Press Shift+PC cursor, to activate the Touch cursor in Jaws.
5. Press the left arrow key one time, Jaws 17 should say, your computer is up 
to date, last checked, bla bla bla.
6. Press the PC cursor twice, that is Num-pad plus twice, to go back to the 
regular PC cursor for Jaws 17.
7. Press ALT+f4 to close the settings area in w-10.
I hope this explains checking the status of your w-10 updates using Jaws 
17.0.1806, clearly enough for you.
Eric, from Freedom Scientific,  has already said that they will fix this small 
issue in an upcoming future update to Jaws 17.
So, thanks Eric.
In the mean time you can use the above steps to check the status of your
w-10 Windows updates.
Thanks and I hope everyone has a nice weekend...

Love God! with your heart, mind, and soul, that you might be blessed reaching 
His goal.
Love your Neighbor as you would yourself, God will truly reward you with good 
health.
Love God, your neighbor, as you love yourself, you will then be spiritually 
balanced with wealth.
Love His Word that proceeds from His lips, then reflect on the heavens where 
God sits.
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Checking windows update status in w-10 withJaws 17.0.1806

[Merv Keck]

Thanks Mike. There were one or two of those I haven't played with yet. I will 
practice them for kicks.


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Mike B
Sent: Saturday, April 9, 2016 11:49 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Checking windows update status in w-10 withJaws 
17.0.1806

Hi Jim & Merv,

Since someone will ask, what are the Touch Cursor keystrokes?, Well here you
go:

table with 2 columns and 13 rows
Touch Cursor
SHIFT+NUM PAD PLUS
Next Object
RIGHT ARROW or TAB
Prior Object
LEFT ARROW or SHIFT+TAB
Next Object by Type
DOWN ARROW
Prior Object by Type
UP ARROW
Cycle Through Object Navigation Types
PAGE UP or PAGE DOWN
First Object
CTRL+HOME
Last Object
CTRL+END
Say Current Object
INSERT+UP ARROW
Say All with Touch Cursor
INSERT+DOWN ARROW
Route Touch Cursor to Focused Object
INSERT+NUM PAD PLUS
Text Review
NUM PAD SLASH or INSERT+ENTER
Advanced Navigation
NUM PAD STAR
table end

Take care.
Mike
Remember folks, it's tax time!  If you add, IRS to the word, the, you get "T H 
E I R S".  That spells THEIRS!
- Original Message -----
From: Merv Keck
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Saturday, April 09, 2016 4:23 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Checking windows update status in w-10 withJaws
17.0.1806


The touch cursor is how I have been doing it for months. I also use the touch 
cursor with several other applications when the PC cursor does not give me 
sufficient feedback. Since I have been teaching this method for months I will 
go ahead and answer the question someone will ask eventually. 
No you do not need a touch screen to use the touch cursor. Laughs!


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Jim
Sent: Saturday, April 9, 2016 4:56 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Checking windows update status in w-10 with Jaws
17.0.1806

Hi Jaws Users group.
I have just figured out how to get Jaws 17.0.1806, to read the status of our
w-10 updates.
Just do the following:
1. Press Windows key+I, for the settings area of w-10.
2. Press the Right arrow key or press the End key to, Update and security, 
press enter.
Now the sub category, windows update is already selected for you.
3. Tab one time to, Check for updates, don’t do anything.
4. Press Shift+PC cursor, to activate the Touch cursor in Jaws.
5. Press the left arrow key one time, Jaws 17 should say, your computer is up 
to date, last checked, bla bla bla.
6. Press the PC cursor twice, that is Num-pad plus twice, to go back to the 
regular PC cursor for Jaws 17.
7. Press ALT+f4 to close the settings area in w-10.
I hope this explains checking the status of your w-10 updates using Jaws 
17.0.1806, clearly enough for you.
Eric, from Freedom Scientific,  has already said that they will fix this small 
issue in an upcoming future update to Jaws 17.
So, thanks Eric.
In the mean time you can use the above steps to check the status of your
w-10 Windows updates.
Thanks and I hope everyone has a nice weekend...

Love God! with your heart, mind, and soul, that you might be blessed reaching 
His goal.
Love your Neighbor as you would yourself, God will truly reward you with good 
health.
Love God, your neighbor, as you love yourself, you will then be spiritually 
balanced with wealth.
Love His Word that proceeds from His lips, then reflect on the heavens where 
God sits.
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Checking windows update status in w-10 with Jaws 17.0.1806

[Merv Keck]

The touch cursor is how I have been doing it for months. I also use the touch 
cursor with several other applications when the PC cursor does not give me 
sufficient feedback. Since I have been teaching this method for months I will 
go ahead and answer the question someone will ask eventually. No you do not 
need a touch screen to use the touch cursor. Laughs!


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Jim
Sent: Saturday, April 9, 2016 4:56 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Checking windows update status in w-10 with Jaws 17.0.1806

Hi Jaws Users group.
I have just figured out how to get Jaws 17.0.1806, to read the status of our 
w-10 updates.
Just do the following:
1. Press Windows key+I, for the settings area of w-10.
2. Press the Right arrow key or press the End key to, Update and security, 
press enter.
Now the sub category, windows update is already selected for you.
3. Tab one time to, Check for updates, don’t do anything.
4. Press Shift+PC cursor, to activate the Touch cursor in Jaws.
5. Press the left arrow key one time, Jaws 17 should say, your computer is up 
to date, last checked, bla bla bla.
6. Press the PC cursor twice, that is Num-pad plus twice, to go back to the 
regular PC cursor for Jaws 17.
7. Press ALT+f4 to close the settings area in w-10.
I hope this explains checking the status of your w-10 updates using Jaws 
17.0.1806, clearly enough for you.
Eric, from Freedom Scientific,  has already said that they will fix this small 
issue in an upcoming future update to Jaws 17.
So, thanks Eric.
In the mean time you can use the above steps to check the status of your w-10 
Windows updates.
Thanks and I hope everyone has a nice weekend...

Love God! with your heart, mind, and soul, that you might be blessed reaching 
His goal.
Love your Neighbor as you would yourself, God will truly reward you with good 
health.
Love God, your neighbor, as you love yourself, you will then be spiritually 
balanced with wealth.
Love His Word that proceeds from His lips, then reflect on the heavens where 
God sits.
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Is the following a JAWS issue or a win 10 issue Eric?

[Merv Keck]

Hi,
Until this is fixed. And I do hope this is fixed because I very much miss
the ability you speak of in the settings area of Windows 10. You can get
information even without a touch screen by using the Jaws touch cursor. If
you tap Shift + the minus key on your numeric keypad you will be in the
touch cursor. Do this after you tap Windows + I. then just use your left and
right arrow keys to get the information you need about the last time your
system was updated. When you are finished tap the minus key twice on the
numeric keypad and you will go back to your PC cursor. Hopefully a fix will
come soon, smile!
In the meantime I hope that helps. I use it often and it works fine for me.
I do all my updates manually that way.
Merv


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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Ron Kolesar
Sent: Saturday, March 26, 2016 6:15 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Is the following a JAWS issue or a win 10 issue Eric?

Hi Eric, from Ron and Leader Dog Boz.
When we would do a win I and check up on the updates, we would get your
computer is up to date or we're down loading updates and would you like to
reboot your system and so on.
We're no longer are getting those messages when we check up on the updates
ans such.
Could you look into that with the next jfw update?\ Or was that changed with
the win 10 update?
If it was a change when JFW 17 was released, any chance or giving us back
those messages?
Many Many Thanks from a JFW user.
Many thanks.


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Re: [JAWS-Users] what is this?

[Merv Keck]

They are standalone reading machines. They do the same thing that Openbook
will do if connected to a computer with Jaws and a scanner or Pearl camera.
I had the opportunity to see both in action about two weeks ago and I really
liked the Sara CE which I believe is the more recent incarnation of the two.
Now that Freedom Scientific has merged with Abisee Products there is another
product in their umbrella with wi-fi  that compares and I can't remember the
exact name. Ace Plus or Ace Pro. It is also a standalone model which has
Wi-Fi. 
Personally, for financial reasons, I'll stick with my Jaws, Openbook and
Pearl for now. But I do like the Sara C E a lot.
Hope that helps.
Merv


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of zoe fiogkos
Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2016 8:07 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] what is this?

Hi all, does anyone know what this is which is apparently offered by freedom
scientific.
- SARA(TM) and SARA CE scanning and reading appliances


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Re: [JAWS-Users] iTunes 12.3.317 has been released today

[Merv Keck]

On my Lenovo Windows 10, sixty-four bit machine running Jaws 17 I had no issues 
updating iTunes to the latest version.
I used Help and Check for updates.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Jim
Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2016 1:10 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] iTunes 12.3.317 has been released today

Good afternoon, Jaws users list.
For all the iTunes users.
iTunes 12.3.317 is out today.
Funny thing when I opened my iTunes today, it told me that there was an update.
I tried like usual using Jaws 17, to go through the iTunes update normally in 
which I have no issues doing to update iTunes.
Today however it failed twice.
So, I went to ninite.com and downloaded and ran it from there with no issues.
This seems to be my week with facing all kinds of issues.LOL.
Yesterday, I added some audio files to my OneDrive group download page.
Microsoft wanted me to use the groove music app to play them from OneDrive.
That was fine.
But they had a stupid ad trying to get me to buy it for all my devices.
They had a get started button, but know way to decline the dumb thing.
I had to recreate my OneDrive shared folders on my desktop giving them a 
slightly different name.
I then copied all the tutorials from the old folders to the new ones.
I stopped sharing the old folders and deleted them.
I put the new OneDrive folders in sink with my computer.
I got a share a OneDrive link for both folders individually.
I then had to switch to Jaws 16 to make changes to my Yahoo group settings, 
Jaws 17 still will not work doing this task.
Both my OneDrive group download pages are working correctly now.
Seems like Microsoft is trying to integrate all their programs together.
This is a challenge all by itself, we don’t need all the ads to complicate 
things even more.
Are any of you who are using Jaws 17 to update iTunes having any problems?
Thanks for listening.
Now time for more coffee.


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Love your Neighbor as you would yourself, God will truly reward you with good 
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Love God, your neighbor, as you love yourself, you will then be spiritually 
balanced with wealth.
Love His Word that proceeds from His lips, then reflect on the heavens where 
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Re: [JAWS-Users] [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] Re: defending myself hope this is ok

[Merv Keck]

Office 365 works pretty well with Jaws. And both Microsoft and Freedom
Scientific are always working to improve accessibility with the Office Suite
since it is constantly evolving much like Windows 10. I am currently using
Office 365 Home which includes Outlook 2016 as well as Word and Excel and a
few other applications. However, these are the three I use daily and
successfully along with Jaws 17.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Kimsan
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 11:39 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] Re: defending myself hope this
is ok

Isn't office 365 subscription like 99 a year?

I would go for that if I didn't have what I have currently, although office
365 keeping it on topic so david will not hit me with a wet noodle, I heard
is accessible to a degree but don't quote me on that.
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Zoe Fiogkos
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 3:12 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] Re: defending myself hope this
is ok

I live in Ontario, as for email clients I'm still trying to figure out wich
one I'm going to go with.  I have used wlm in the past, maybe 7 years ago,
not sure it's been so long.  I'm going to have a look on the weekend at the
stores to see how much the Microsoft bundles go for.  I have literally
thousands of save documents in the word format so I'm thinking I may go for
the office bundle for that reason.  I'm still debating it.  Regardless of
the debate going on about the reading/preview pain I guess I'm one of those
who uses it and I love it.  I've never had a problem with viruses or jaws
and I want to continue using it so outlook looks like the way I'm going to
go.  I know it sounds like I've made up my mind, but it really will depend
on the prices at the store.  From what I gathered my husband has no problem
spending the money if it's going to make my life easier.  Another reason why
i'm considering the Microsoft package is because I guess I will half to
spend more money but I use word in another language and I have the Greek
spell check etc.  I do a lot of writing in Greek and having a spell check is
essential. Sorry for rambling but it's nice to see people care.  Thanks for
everything, take care for now Regards Zoe

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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Pinky
Sent: March-10-16 2:01 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [Bulk] Re: [JAWS-Users] [Bulk] Re: defending myself hope this is ok

Hi Zoe,
Wow, that quite a deal you have their in Canada. What province do you live
in. I am going to move there. As far as your previous questions go have you
tried using WLM again and see if it will work for you. A lot of people use
it and as far as I have heard most people think it is the easiest  email
program to use. Just a suggestion instead of spending big bucks to just buy
Outlook.

Ed

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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Zoe Fiogkos
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 9:45 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [Bulk] Re: defending myself hope this is ok

Thank you so much for your words of encouragement.  The truth of the matter
is that I was a little nervous about telling my story because I didn't know
how people would see it.
You know I live in Canada, and in the province I live in blind people are
entitled to free software, computers, cctv's, brail equipment, etc. for free
every 5 years, so if I really can't afford something I have the option to
wait until my 5 years is up and get everything for free.  So this so called
expert who claims to want to help blind people so much should get his facts
straight before he so easily accuses people. Anyhow I am just glad that
everyone now knows who I am and where I stand so there are no more
misunderstandings when it comes to my name.
Again thanks so much for understanding and confirming my intentions as you
read my emails.
Regards
Zoe

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: March-10-16 10:17 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [Bulk] Re: [JAWS-Users] defending myself hope this is ok

 Zoe,

For the record, I read your original post on this subject the way you
describe it here. You hadn't installed illegal software. If it was illegal,
it wasn't you who had installed it. You aren't even sure it is illegal.
However, you wanted to make it legal, and your question went beyond that.
The software's possible illegality was a necessary foundation for why you
were asking your real question. If anything, it was a great illustration for
why we should always use legally obtained software. 

-Original Message-
From: 

Re: [JAWS-Users] vipre

[Merv Keck]

Hi,
The subject here is vipre. If you are saying the new version of vipre is not
as screen reader friendly I can tell you that it is screen reader friendly.
I have the latest version of vipre Internet Security and I have no issues
even in the advanced settings part of the application. For me the most
difficult chore is remembering to spell it correctly as Vipre 2016 not Viper
2016, laughs!



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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Jonathan Cohn
Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2016 9:23 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] vipre

Be cautious, I have read that the new version is not screen reader friendly.


Jonathan Cohn 

> On Jan 21, 2016, at 9:07 AM, Lenny McHugh  wrote:
> 
> The other day I received notice to update the software. It went from 
> version
> 8 to 9. My grandson's computer is also using vipre however he did not 
> receive the update notification. He told me that when he went to check 
> for updates he was informed that his system is up to date. He still 
> has version
> 8 on his 8.1 computer. Any ideas where to look for the update?
> 
> 
> ---
> 
> Please visit my web page
> 
> It's motivational, inspirational with a touch of humor
> 
> There is also a very extensive resource list for the blind
> 
> http://www.LennyMcHugh.com
> 
> International Brotherhood of Magicians member #43990R For answers to 
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[JAWS-Users] copying text from Outlook 2016 to Word 2016

[Merv Keck]

Hi,

Does anyone know what setting if any I need to change in order to allow text
to be copied from Outlook 2016 to word 2016. I have this issue on and off
again since updating to Office 2016 and windows 10. Yesterday I had no
problem, or the day before. However, today it simply will not allow me to
paste any text from one application to the other. I have even tried
rebooting. This constant flakiness is getting annoying. I'm not playing an
online game I'm working with people's lives on a real life project.

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Re: [JAWS-Users] disable quick start in win 10

[Merv Keck]

There is a tremendous advantage for some people to having quick start turned
off. This is a matter of opinion. Not a matter of fact. It depends on your
personal preference and how your machine performs. Personally, I prefer to
have quick start turned off and recommend it for all of my students. It
works better when Win 10 and jaws 17 needs to be rebooted according to my
opinion. That is why it is a check box and an option.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of jim
Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2015 10:07 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] disable quick start in win 10

Hi Robin,
Again, there is no advantage to turning quick start off.
This is a benefit of using w-10.
For all practical purposes your computer is shut down, when choosing shut
down.
I have done this from the beginning every day when I am done using the
computer, I use shut down.
In the morning I just press the power button, in about 10 seconds or less,
my computer comes on with Jaws talking.
I then press the 4 digit pin, in a few seconds I am on the desktop.
So, I don't understand all the fuss about turning it off.
I am a big security minded person.
So, anything beyond my anti-virus, that helps protect my computer is
welcome.
Good luck, just my opinion.




Love God! with your heart, mind, and soul, that you might be blessed
reaching His goal.
Love your Neighbor as you would yourself, God will truly reward you with
good health.
Love God, your neighbor, as you love yourself, you will then be spiritually
balanced with wealth.
Love His Word that proceeds from His lips, then reflect on the heavens where
God sits.
Jim
-Original Message-
From: Robin Frost
Sent: Monday, December 28, 2015 10:14 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] disable quick start in win 10

Hi,
Forgive me for jumping in on this thread but Kevin's instructions say you
have to turn off requiring a password to disable this.  I didn't think you
needed to do that. can someone clarify as I wouldn't want to disseminate
erroneous information but I truly didn't remember having to have done that
as I'm still logging into windows with a pin and my machines are still set
to require one but I did disable fast startup myself.
thanks bunches for clarifying.
Robin


-Original Message-
From: David Moore
Sent: Monday, December 28, 2015 8:56 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] disable quick start in win 10

Hi Al,
One reason is because if you are running a program in demo version, the
quick start will not set the timer back so you can use for another 40
minutes. Another reason, is the quick start is why people are not hearing a
sound when they shut their computer off or turn it back on. Also, the quick
start does not shut the computer totally down, so it is not the same as a
complete shut down. I do not like the quick start for all of these reasons.
Have a great one, Al.


-Original Message-
From: Alan Robbins
Sent: Monday, December 28, 2015 7:01 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] disable quick start in win 10

Kevin,

Why would someone want to disable this feature?

Best,
Al

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Kevin
Sent: Monday, December 28, 2015 10:21 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] disable quick start in win 10

forgot to change subject line

press win key+x
from the context menu arrow to power options press enter tab to require a
password on startup then press enter tab to change settings that are
currently unavailable press enter tab to require a password this menu are
radio buttons arrow down to don't require a password tab to enable quick
start this is a check box and it is checked by default press spacebar to
uncheck tab to ok tab to save changes

-Original Message-
From: Singing Sparrow
Sent: Sunday, December 27, 2015 11:08 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows 10 crashes; safe mode & restore?

Could you please tell us how to disable the windows 10 quick start?

On 12/23/2015 2:27 PM, Kevin wrote:
> with windows 10 you never start the computer from a cold
start.  the
> computer is in hibernation mode which enables the quick
start.  when
> quick starting the computer some drivers don't get loaded
hence the
> startup sound does not play.  this is why when you run
jaws in 40
> minute mode then shut down and the next time you start the
computer
> jaws announces in order to use jaws in 40 minute mode
again you must
> restart your computer.
> there is a way to disable the windows 10 quick start but I
will not
> include this unless someone asks!
>
> -Original Message- From: Pinky
> Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2015 11:36 AM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows 10 crashes; safe mode &
restore?
>
> Hi 

Re: [JAWS-Users] Microsoft Office

[Merv Keck]

Hi,
Office 2016 is pretty accessible with a few issues remaining as with many
Windows 10 applications. Each day accessibility continues to improve but is
still a work in progress. This in all fairness has been pretty much the deal
since Office 2010. Microsoft needs to do some work with their accessibility
driver and Jaws needs to improve on a few things which is always the case as
we live in a very complex world these days. For example, in Word 2016 and
2013 in when printing envelopes none of the leading screen readers do a
really good job with editing the return or the delivery address. However
Narrator works just fine. In Outlook 2016 none of the screen readers handle
the spell checker perfectly. That has been an issue since 2010. 
I use Word, Excel, and Outlook daily and wouldn't give either one up. I am
currently using Jaws 17 very successfully with them and although there are a
few things I am hoping to see fixed before Jaws 18 I certainly would not
hesitate to buy either one again.
Hope that helps
Merv


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Steve
Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2015 11:52 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Microsoft Office

Al,

There's a lot more to Office than Outlook.  And, the lower-end versions of
Office like Home and Student, or I think even Business don't have Outlook.
But, one might want Word, Excel and Powerpoint.

I don't know how accessible 2016 is in whole, although I do know that some
of it is accessible.  But, there may be certain tasks that aren't as
accessible as previous versions of Office, which are still available if you
look around.


- Original Message -
From: Alan Robbins
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2015 8:23 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Microsoft Office


Fred,

If you are using WLM now, why do you want to go to MS Office
on the new computer? Outlook is very different than WLM

Al

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of
Fred Adams
Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2015 6:08 AM
To: jaws-users
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Microsoft Office

I am using W10, WLM and latest jaws and I purchased a new
Dell desktop computer and it did not come with Microsoft
Office installed.  I am thinking of purchaseing Microsoft
Office and I would like to know if 2016 is very compatible
with jaws17 or if anyone has suggestions.  I am not to good
with computers so I will appreciate any info.  Thanks much

Best wishes,

FRED C. ADAMS W4HC
US ARMY AIRBORNE RET
MARANATHA! MARANATHA!!
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Re: [JAWS-Users] disable quick start in win 10

[Merv Keck]

For my two machines there is about one second difference on the SSD boot
drive on the machine running 16 GB  Ram and an SSD boot drive. There is
about a ten second difference on the 8 GB machine with a 5400 RPM boot
drive. The only time quick start comes into play for me is when I am having
issues with Jaws or office or windows itself. Sometimes I need to reboot and
the reboot does not work as it should because of the fast start being
enabled. There are times when you will find that you need to restart and
having this option enabled will complicate whatever you are troubleshooting.
Sometimes you just need a clean reboot.
I actually have more issues with starting up while having a pair of large
external drives connected slowing down my restart or cold startup than
having this option enabled or disabled. Because I have the option to scan
external drives enabled in my antivirus application, it will sometimes slow
down my startup or restart. If I unplug everything from the machine before
starting or restarting I can be up and running in seconds no matter if the
option is checked or not checked. But if I need to troubleshoot or install
something I personally want that option to not be checked. Just my own
personal preference.


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Alan Robbins
Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2015 2:11 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] disable quick start in win 10

What is the difference in a cold boot time with it enabled versus disabled?

Al

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Merv Keck
Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2015 12:01 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] disable quick start in win 10

There is a tremendous advantage for some people to having quick start turned
off. This is a matter of opinion. Not a matter of fact. It depends on your
personal preference and how your machine performs. Personally, I prefer to
have quick start turned off and recommend it for all of my students. It
works better when Win 10 and jaws 17 needs to be rebooted according to my
opinion. That is why it is a check box and an option.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of jim
Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2015 10:07 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] disable quick start in win 10

Hi Robin,
Again, there is no advantage to turning quick start off.
This is a benefit of using w-10.
For all practical purposes your computer is shut down, when choosing shut
down.
I have done this from the beginning every day when I am done using the
computer, I use shut down.
In the morning I just press the power button, in about 10 seconds or less,
my computer comes on with Jaws talking.
I then press the 4 digit pin, in a few seconds I am on the desktop.
So, I don't understand all the fuss about turning it off.
I am a big security minded person.
So, anything beyond my anti-virus, that helps protect my computer is
welcome.
Good luck, just my opinion.




Love God! with your heart, mind, and soul, that you might be blessed
reaching His goal.
Love your Neighbor as you would yourself, God will truly reward you with
good health.
Love God, your neighbor, as you love yourself, you will then be spiritually
balanced with wealth.
Love His Word that proceeds from His lips, then reflect on the heavens where
God sits.
Jim
-Original Message-
From: Robin Frost
Sent: Monday, December 28, 2015 10:14 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] disable quick start in win 10

Hi,
Forgive me for jumping in on this thread but Kevin's instructions say you
have to turn off requiring a password to disable this.  I didn't think you
needed to do that. can someone clarify as I wouldn't want to disseminate
erroneous information but I truly didn't remember having to have done that
as I'm still logging into windows with a pin and my machines are still set
to require one but I did disable fast startup myself.
thanks bunches for clarifying.
Robin


-Original Message-
From: David Moore
Sent: Monday, December 28, 2015 8:56 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] disable quick start in win 10

Hi Al,
One reason is because if you are running a program in demo version, the
quick start will not set the timer back so you can use for another 40
minutes. Another reason, is the quick start is why people are not hearing a
sound when they shut their computer off or turn it back on. Also, the quick
start does not shut the computer totally down, so it is not the same as a
complete shut down. I do not like the quick start for all of these reasons.
Have a great one, Al.


-Original Message-
From: Alan Robbins
Sent: Monday, December 28, 2015 7:01 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] disable quick

Re: [JAWS-Users] disable quick start in win 10

[Merv Keck]

Yes if you have the sounds enabled you do. I have been tweaking my sounds
because I liked my windows seven sounds better and have been substituting my
Windows 7 sounds for the windows 10 sounds and am planning to create some
custom themes since Windows 10 has a few more sounds than Windows 7 did. 

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Alan Robbins
Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2015 2:26 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] disable quick start in win 10

Marv,

Thanks, I'll try both ways. With it disabled, my guess is you get the boot
up sound same as if you select restart?

Best,
Al

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Merv Keck
Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2015 2:22 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] disable quick start in win 10

For my two machines there is about one second difference on the SSD boot
drive on the machine running 16 GB  Ram and an SSD boot drive. There is
about a ten second difference on the 8 GB machine with a 5400 RPM boot
drive. The only time quick start comes into play for me is when I am having
issues with Jaws or office or windows itself. Sometimes I need to reboot and
the reboot does not work as it should because of the fast start being
enabled. There are times when you will find that you need to restart and
having this option enabled will complicate whatever you are troubleshooting.
Sometimes you just need a clean reboot.
I actually have more issues with starting up while having a pair of large
external drives connected slowing down my restart or cold startup than
having this option enabled or disabled. Because I have the option to scan
external drives enabled in my antivirus application, it will sometimes slow
down my startup or restart. If I unplug everything from the machine before
starting or restarting I can be up and running in seconds no matter if the
option is checked or not checked. But if I need to troubleshoot or install
something I personally want that option to not be checked. Just my own
personal preference.


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Alan Robbins
Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2015 2:11 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] disable quick start in win 10

What is the difference in a cold boot time with it enabled versus disabled?

Al

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Merv Keck
Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2015 12:01 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] disable quick start in win 10

There is a tremendous advantage for some people to having quick start turned
off. This is a matter of opinion. Not a matter of fact. It depends on your
personal preference and how your machine performs. Personally, I prefer to
have quick start turned off and recommend it for all of my students. It
works better when Win 10 and jaws 17 needs to be rebooted according to my
opinion. That is why it is a check box and an option.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of jim
Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2015 10:07 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] disable quick start in win 10

Hi Robin,
Again, there is no advantage to turning quick start off.
This is a benefit of using w-10.
For all practical purposes your computer is shut down, when choosing shut
down.
I have done this from the beginning every day when I am done using the
computer, I use shut down.
In the morning I just press the power button, in about 10 seconds or less,
my computer comes on with Jaws talking.
I then press the 4 digit pin, in a few seconds I am on the desktop.
So, I don't understand all the fuss about turning it off.
I am a big security minded person.
So, anything beyond my anti-virus, that helps protect my computer is
welcome.
Good luck, just my opinion.




Love God! with your heart, mind, and soul, that you might be blessed
reaching His goal.
Love your Neighbor as you would yourself, God will truly reward you with
good health.
Love God, your neighbor, as you love yourself, you will then be spiritually
balanced with wealth.
Love His Word that proceeds from His lips, then reflect on the heavens where
God sits.
Jim
-Original Message-
From: Robin Frost
Sent: Monday, December 28, 2015 10:14 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] disable quick start in win 10

Hi,
Forgive me for jumping in on this thread but Kevin's instructions say you
have to turn off requiring a password to disable this.  I didn't think you
needed to do that. can someone clarify as I wouldn't want to disseminate
erroneous information but I truly didn't remember having to have done that
as I'm still logging into windows

Re: [JAWS-Users] Does enhanced convenient OCR do a good job on an PDF image?

[Merv Keck]

What is enhanced convenient OCR? As opposed to Convenient OCR? I use both
Openbook and Convenient OCR and find them both to be extremely useful. I
would not be without either one. I use the latest version of Jaws 17 and I
have used convenient OCR to get me out of a few tight spots including
reading a long renters agreement that nothing else would read that was sent
to me via PDF electronically. It did a spectacular job.
As for Openbook, I am reading my mail as well as books with Openbook and
while I have my own Openbook I am using a borrowed Pearl. That works totally
as advertised. I just forwarded someone a letter from the phone company
yesterday and they thought I copied and pasted text from the web site. They
were surprised when they discovered I had scanned a letter using Openbook
and pasted the text into an email. 
I'm looking forward to seeing what Freedom Scientific comes up with next.


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Jim Pursley
Sent: Thursday, December 24, 2015 9:50 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Does enhanced convenient OCR do a good job on an
PDF image?

Not answering your question directly, I find that Open Book is ze best
graphics text reader for me.  When I encounter a graphic-any one with text
in it - I just print the article in which it's embedded using CNTRL P and
shortly the full text comes up.  If the graphic is a part of the overall, i
just scroll to it.

Open Book is a great OCR option for anyone reading a lot of
graphically-generated text.  It also works for protected etf's. 
Apparently, protected etf's print just as any other one.

I am a happy camper with Open Book.

On 12/24/2015 12:03 PM, Jason White wrote:
> Jim Slagle  wrote:
>> Has anyone tried using enhanced convenient OCR?
>> What was your experience?
>
> My experience under Adobe Reader was that JAWS processed the entire 
> document with OCR, then allowed me to read the recognized text in a 
> virtual viewer. As I recall, the documents on which I tried it were 
> journal articles retrieved from online sources. They were PDF files 
> containing images of the printed pages rather than the actual text as
characters.
>
> As far as I can remember, recognition was not a quick process, so you 
> may have to wait a while for it to be completed.
>
>
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Re: [JAWS-Users] usb 3.0 port

[Merv Keck]

Many times that will be the HDMI port. Without looking I could not say with 
100% certainty, however, I have been around quite a few computers with multiple 
USB ports and if there is a port that looks a lot like a USB port it is usually 
an HDMI port.
For example, this machine I am typing on has two USB ports and an HDMI on the 
left moving from front to back. And on the right is a single USB port.  I would 
need to ask someone sighted which one is blue. Smile!


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Maria Campbell
Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2015 12:34 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] usb 3.0 port

It could still help a person with low vision.


On 12/16/2015 11:16 AM, Rose Combs wrote:
> I think this is funny, "it should be blue in color"  Sending this to a list 
> with probably 60% totally blind persons.
>
>
> Rose Combs
> roseco...@q.com
> A picture may be worth a thousand words but it takes up three times the 
> memory!
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] 
> On Behalf Of Steve
> Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2015 2:34 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] usb 3.0 port
>
> No, they are the same shape.  I think the USB 3 port may be labeled, 
> it should be blue in color according the recommended tech specs..
>
> But, they have to be the same shape to maintain backward compatibility.
>
> Steve
> Lansing, MI
> - Original Message -
> From: Lenny McHugh
> To: JFW List
> Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2015 1:12 PM
> Subject: [JAWS-Users] usb 3.0 port
>
>
> This laptop is to have two usb 2.0 and one 3.0 ports.Is the 3.0 port a 
> different shape? I need 3 usb devices for tonights meeting and only two fit.
> There is a port next to the two 2.0 ports that is a different shape.
>
>
>
> ---
>
> Please visit my web page
>
> It’s motivational, inspirational with a touch of humor
>
> There is also a very extensive resource list for the blind
>
> http://www.LennyMcHugh.com
>
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Looks like i found a bug in JAWS.

[Merv Keck]

I am not following your issue. It is reading correctly for me. I depend on 
numerical data on a daily basis in both outlook, and Word as well as Excel and 
all work well with Windows 10 and Jaws 17.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Robin Frost
Sent: Friday, December 11, 2015 10:25 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Looks like i found a bug in JAWS.

Hi,
I'm not sure I understand your message based on its current syntax.
However by me with number translation set to some and dollars checked it when 
seeing the value as you presented it is reading it at ten dollars and twenty 
five cents as it ought.
I hope that helps.
Robin


-Original Message-
From: Ron Kolesar
Sent: Friday, December 11, 2015 10:16 PM
To: JAWS Mailing List
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Looks like i found a bug in JAWS.

Hi to all.
I’musing the latest copy of jaws with win 10.
I’m playing a roleplaying game that envolves money.
I have dollars checked.
But even when I have for example.
$10.25.
The point two five.
Please let me know if he reads correctly for the rest of you as tne dollars and 
twenty five cents.
How can we fix thisanoying problem?
Thanks.above example read for the ten
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows 10 and Logos 3

[Merv Keck]

I'm surprised your using Logos 3 with Windows 7. They encouraged me to
upgrade to Logos 4 after moving fromXP to 7. Logos 4 was never accessible
and I don't have it on my computer anymore now that I lost my sight for all
time. It was a shame really as I built that library up from the Original
language Collection through Logos 4 Platinum edition and a whole lot of
extras. I had close to 3000 resources in my library.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of r...@q.com
Sent: Tuesday, December 8, 2015 6:34 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Windows 10 and Logos 3

Hi,

I currently use Logos 3 with Windows 7.  Does anyone know if Logos 3 will
work with Windows 10?

Thanks.


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Found two problems with jaws 17.;

[Merv Keck]

Hi,
The dictionary works for me but the phonetic spelling does not. I tried it
both on the laptop and the wireless keyboard. 

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Robin Frost
Sent: Friday, December 4, 2015 9:47 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Found two problems with jaws 17.;

Hi,
I agree it's working for me too here. And I'm not sure I understand the
meaning of the dictionary doesn't work. I've instructed JFW to pronounce a
word correctly when it didn't know how in the default dictionary and had no
problem saving and maintaining the results. If this refers to something else
I apologize in advance.
Robin


-Original Message-
From: T. Civitello
Sent: Friday, December 4, 2015 8:53 AM
To: JAWS Mailing List
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Found two problems with jaws 17.;

Phonetic spelling works correctly for me. Running Win 10 and latest Jaws.
Tom

-Original Message-
From: Ron Kolesar
Sent: Thursday, December 3, 2015 9:13 PM
To: JAWS Mailing List
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Found two problems with jaws 17.;

Hi to all.
Has anyone else noticed the following with j 17 with win10?
1. the dictionary will not work.
2. When you tap your five key on the calculator keypad to do fanatic
spelling, it works in the following way.
You tap your five key on the first letter and it will spell fanatically for
you.
but right arrow to  the next letter.
That next letter is not fanatically spelled.
You have to tap your five key once again.
Any one know if we can fix these problems?
Thanks.
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Re: [JAWS-Users] WARNING! some key combinations do not work with wireless keyboards

[Merv Keck]

Hi,
I was actually a bit surprised to find that I had the same experience on
this Logitech keyboard. It is not all that old, maybe two years old as far
as the model is concerned. I just bought it about two months ago from Amazon
however. And my laptop is about five months old and also works very well in
contrast to the wireless keyboard. I wonder if that has been reported to FS
as a bug yet.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of john_Justice
Sent: Thursday, December 3, 2015 8:11 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] WARNING! some key combinations do not work with
wireless keyboards

I'm using a laptop and an older HP wireless keyboard.  The Jaws Find command
CONTROL+INSERT+F  doesn't work at all on this particular wireless keyboard.

My HP 4140 has a full keyboard with a keypad.  I tried the same key
combination on that board and it worked.

 

There's no way to check for sure but that does concern me.

You buy a board expecting it to work just like a hard wired version and it
doesn't.

 

 

JOHN AND LINDA JUSTICE

PERSONAL E-MAIL: john_just...@verizon.net

 



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Re: [JAWS-Users] problem navigating in Word 2013

[Merv Keck]

If you are using Windows 10, try tapping Windows + Up Arrow twice to make
sure Outlook 2013 is actually maximized. That may help.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Philip Hall
Sent: Sunday, November 29, 2015 12:53 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] problem navigating in Word 2013

Hi.

I am running Jaws 17.0.1214 and Word 2013.

This problem seems to happen no matter which version of Jaws  I am using.

If I use my arrow keys to read down or up line by line, many times, when I
reach a page boundary word jumps to the page following the one I want to get
too.

For example, if I am at the end of page 5, and press down arrow, word jumps
me to the top of page 7.

The only way I can get to page 6 is to use the control key with page up or
down.

Even if I use just the page up or page down keys by themselves, word skips
over a page.

I can't seem to determine if this is a Jaws issue, or if there is some
setting within word I must change.

Any help or advice great fully appreciated.

 

Phil

 

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Re: [JAWS-Users] WIN 10 upgrade advice from our computer people

[Merv Keck]

I guess that is why they work for Dell and Hp and you don't

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Steve
Sent: Friday, November 27, 2015 2:25 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] WIN 10 upgrade advice from our computer people

Merv,

Don't know where you come up with your info here...
Unless you are using really intensive video or graphics editing programs,
16GB memory is overkill.  I don't see any reason why one would need that
kind of memory with Win 10 which is quite an efficient operating system.

Second, your reference to Dell and HP techs recommending people not upgrade
to Win 10?  There was a major update to Win 10 a couple weeks ago, so even
if that were valid after it was rolled out at the end of July, I rather
doubt that is applicable nowadays.
In looking at the article that seems to have precipitated this
http://www.laptopmag.com/articles/support-reps-diss-windows-10
it woould appear that many of them aren't knowledgeable about some of the
Windows 10 support features.

Much of the advice PC Phoneline support techs give is not correct or
current. 
Examples are in that article.

Also in my experience, there may be some driver issues; but I have yet to
run across anything that would work in Windows 8 and not in Windows 10.

Steve
Lansing, MI


- Original Message -
From: Merv Keck
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2015 3:05 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] WIN 10 upgrade advice from our computer people


Besides the fact that actual tech professionals from both Dell and HP
continue to recommend waiting to upgrade to Windows 10 there really is no
reason to upgrade if you don't have to. If Windows 7 or 8.1 works then don't
break what is not already broken. I have very successfully helped install
Windows 10 as both upgrades and as clean installs on new machines and while
it is a good Operating Machine there is issues of accessibility that both
Microsoft and all the major screen readers are continuing to work out. That
is not a negative on any company it is a fact based on a very deep
understanding of computers as an instructor, programmer, and writer of
tutorials since  1984.
Never mind the fact that many people are upgrading only to find that they
have printers, scanners, external hard drives, and other peripherals that
will no longer be supported under Windows 10. Not everyone learns at the
same level. And not everyone can afford to replace outdated hardware just to
scan their electric bill after they get a nasty surprise from an upgrade.
I have my machines working just great on Windows 10 and for the record I
used Windows 10 the Missing Manual via bookshare. I even got my windows 7
sound scheme working on a machine I upgraded from Windows 8.1 to Windows 10
with a little bit of geeking and tweaking.
And I highly recommend that if you do not need to upgrade this minute, wait
a few months to upgrade to Windows 10. Unless you are buying a new machine.
Then by all means get a Windows 10 machine with at least 16 GB of ram and
run Jaws 17 and it will rock your world.

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-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of jim
Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2015 1:12 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] WIN 10 upgrade advice from our computer people

They need some different consultants.
Windows 10 works great with Jaws 16 latest, and with Jaws 17.
This is one of those fear letters and worry groups.
Yes, you will have a little, learning to do, but everything will be just
fine on your computer.
I have helped many people upgrade with no issues.
A w-7, computer sometimes will take using the media creation tool, two times
or so.
Because, it needs to update all the older w-7 drivers.
A w-8.1, computer, upgrades the first time.
But if a person follows my guide, they should be OK.
Of Corse, there are always exceptions to any computer update.
But this continued panicking about w-10, I can't understand it.
I and other users of Jaws, have been using w-10, for four months now.
I love it, it is a far superior computer system...





Love God! with your heart, mind, and soul, that you might be blessed
reaching His goal.
Love your Neighbor as you would yourself, God will truly reward you with
good health.
Love God, your neighbor, as you love yourself, you will then be spiritually
balanced with wealth.
Love His Word that proceeds from His lips, then reflect on the heavens where
God sits.
Jim
-Original Message-
From: Jim Pursley
Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2015 6:15 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] WIN10 upgrade advice from our computer people

Here's a blip from the Oregon Computer Consultant's organization.  I see no
reason to doubt their objectivity.
"Updating to Windows 10 - NO!
At meeting of computer consultants on Oct 27 we discussed windo

Re: [JAWS-Users] on some websites I can't activate buttons

[Merv Keck]

I just asked this same question this week to some tech people because I had
the same experience on amazon. I am still waiting for a satisfactory
solution.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of joanne
Sent: Friday, November 27, 2015 8:05 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] on some websites I can't activate buttons

On some websites I run across buttons I can't click on with space or enter.
I try routing cursors, turning off virtual cursor, left clicking, just about
everything I can think of but the keystroke won't work to get me to the next
page.  I see it a lot on banking sites and on submit or continue buttons.
Due to the configuration of some newer websites with maybe too many
graphics--just making a guess--is there just no way to be able to use
buttons and therefore the inability to complete tasks on these sites without
sighted help?  I truly hope there's an answer and that it's not impossible
to use these sites independently.

Thanks.

Joanne
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Re: [JAWS-Users] WIN 10 upgrade advice from our computer people

[Merv Keck]

Besides the fact that actual tech professionals from both Dell and HP
continue to recommend waiting to upgrade to Windows 10 there really is no
reason to upgrade if you don't have to. If Windows 7 or 8.1 works then don't
break what is not already broken. I have very successfully helped install
Windows 10 as both upgrades and as clean installs on new machines and while
it is a good Operating Machine there is issues of accessibility that both
Microsoft and all the major screen readers are continuing to work out. That
is not a negative on any company it is a fact based on a very deep
understanding of computers as an instructor, programmer, and writer of
tutorials since  1984.
Never mind the fact that many people are upgrading only to find that they
have printers, scanners, external hard drives, and other peripherals that
will no longer be supported under Windows 10. Not everyone learns at the
same level. And not everyone can afford to replace outdated hardware just to
scan their electric bill after they get a nasty surprise from an upgrade. 
I have my machines working just great on Windows 10 and for the record I
used Windows 10 the Missing Manual via bookshare. I even got my windows 7
sound scheme working on a machine I upgraded from Windows 8.1 to Windows 10
with a little bit of geeking and tweaking. 
And I highly recommend that if you do not need to upgrade this minute, wait
a few months to upgrade to Windows 10. Unless you are buying a new machine.
Then by all means get a Windows 10 machine with at least 16 GB of ram and
run Jaws 17 and it will rock your world.

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-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of jim
Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2015 1:12 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] WIN 10 upgrade advice from our computer people

They need some different consultants.
Windows 10 works great with Jaws 16 latest, and with Jaws 17.
This is one of those fear letters and worry groups.
Yes, you will have a little, learning to do, but everything will be just
fine on your computer.
I have helped many people upgrade with no issues.
A w-7, computer sometimes will take using the media creation tool, two times
or so.
Because, it needs to update all the older w-7 drivers.
A w-8.1, computer, upgrades the first time.
But if a person follows my guide, they should be OK.
Of Corse, there are always exceptions to any computer update.
But this continued panicking about w-10, I can't understand it.
I and other users of Jaws, have been using w-10, for four months now.
I love it, it is a far superior computer system...





Love God! with your heart, mind, and soul, that you might be blessed
reaching His goal.
Love your Neighbor as you would yourself, God will truly reward you with
good health.
Love God, your neighbor, as you love yourself, you will then be spiritually
balanced with wealth.
Love His Word that proceeds from His lips, then reflect on the heavens where
God sits.
Jim
-Original Message-
From: Jim Pursley
Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2015 6:15 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] WIN10 upgrade advice from our computer people

Here's a blip from the Oregon Computer Consultant's organization.  I see no
reason to doubt their objectivity.
"Updating to Windows 10 - NO!
At meeting of computer consultants on Oct 27 we discussed windows 10
updates. - Not clean installs but updates from 7 or 8.1 to 10. Every
consultant recommended waiting. Despite that, many had tested the update on
their own non-crucial systems. Also, some clients had updated accidentally
or against advice or demanded the consultants update them.

The consultants had experience with 33 update attempts. 11 failed. Most
failures could be reversed and returned to their previous condition, but
some lost their computers completely. This isn't a large sample, and
computer consultants might not have heard from clients who updated
successfully, so my guess is that much less than 33% fail. Probably more
like 10% or 15% and of those probably 80% can return to their old operating
system and continue to run fine, but it still seems crazy to do this with an
important machine.
Furthermore, possible that if you aren't getting the latest versions of all
your software, you could have some incompatibility there.

Tech support centers say that the problems caused by the Windows 10 update
are double that of most other Windows operating system upgrades.
This is probably
not because the upgrade process is worse, but because people are being
forced to do it.

Wait a few more months before you succumb to the Borg."

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Navigation tips for moving in the Settings area ofw-10

[Merv Keck]

Hi,
I have spent a great deal of time customizing my two laptops with Windows 10 
and I have been pretty happy with the way both Jaws and Microsoft have arranged 
the Settings adjustments in Windows 10.
For example, today I received a wireless Logitech keyboard from Amazon and 
after plugging it into my hub I grabbed my Plantronics Edge Bluetooth ear piece 
that I normally use with both my iPhone and my Quest from Envision America and 
decided to see how easy it would be to pair with my Lenovo Z70 laptop. It was 
really simple and quick using the Windows 10 settings in Windows I. 
I can leave my huge 17.3 inch laptop sit in my bedroom and walk out to my porch 
and sit, or even into the kitchen and do email while drinking Coffee.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of jim
Sent: Sunday, October 11, 2015 6:30 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Navigation tips for moving in the Settings area ofw-10

Hi Neil,
Your welcome,
Just trying to do what I can to help...Jim


-Original Message-
From: Neil Towery
Sent: Sunday, October 11, 2015 4:17 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Navigation tips for moving in the Settings area
ofw-10

Thanks, Jim. Have not installed Win 10, yet, but am saving your instructions in 
word documents.
Think I will try Win 10 on a laptop, after JAWS 17 is released.
Neil


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
Behalf Of jim
Sent: Sunday, October 11, 2015 1:35 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Navigation tips for moving in the Settings area of 
w-10

Hi group, I thought that I would share these tips with you, about Navigating 
the Settings area in w-10.

After pressing Windows key+I, You are now in the Settings area of w-10.
You are now in a horizontal list of 9 categories, this means a Left to right 
list of 9 categories.
Pressing Enter on any of these choices, will open a Vertical list of 
sub-categories, that means an up and down list of sub-categories.
The first item in the sub-categories is always already selected, this means 
you can begin Tabbing across the different Controls immediately.
If you want to look at any other sub-categories below the first one, just 
down arrow to the sub-category you want to look at and press enter.
Now you can tab across the various controls, under your selected 
sub-category.
Very important:
Jaws has a tendency to ramble on in the Settings area of w-10.
For Example:
When you select a sub-category, and tab to the first Control under that 
sub-category.
Jaws will read the sub-category information followed by the Control 
information of what Control you are on, followed by its current setting.
So, after getting use to how Jaws reads the various settings windows in 
w-10.
Press the Control key, to shut Jaws up.
Press the Insert key+Tab, To have Jaws repeat only the information about the 
selected Control you are sitting on, and its current setting.
What does current setting mean?
When you hear, Button or Button checked.
These are known as switches, Button checked, “the switch is on”, Button, 
“means the switch is off”.
Combo-box, Followed by the currently selected Choice in the Combo-box.
Use ALT+down arrow to open the Combo-box, if you want to change the choice.
Use your arrow keys to change the selected choice, followed by enter on the 
new choice, this will change what the Combo-box is displaying.
Press Insert key+Tab, to read your new setting in the combo-box, to verify 
that you changed it correctly.
When you hear Radio button, followed by, it current selected Button.
Use the up or down arrow keys, to select the desired radio button, just Tab 
to your next Control.
When you hear list or open list, you are in a list of items, use the Down 
arrow to highlight, or to read through the list.
OK, let us look at the Setting window sub-category called System.
Windows key+I, for settings.
Press Enter on System.
You will hear, Display one of ten.
So, Display is already selected because it is the first item.
Please remember when tabbing across the Settings windows, you will always, 
eventually come to a Home button.
Pressing Spacebar or Enter on the Home button, will take you back to the 
main Category page of 9 horizontal Categories.
If you tab past this Home button, you will come to a Settings Search Edit 
box, You can type in a setting you are looking for and either press enter or 
tab one time to the list of possible results.
This is another way of searching in w-10 for different Settings.
If you Tab again, you will be back to the list of Sub-categories where you 
began.

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Re: [JAWS-Users] I need help to do the following.

[Merv Keck]

Hi,
I don't know if control + T is assigned in any application you are currently
using, however, that key is assigned for hanging indents in Microsoft
Office.


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Ron Kolesar
Sent: Monday, October 5, 2015 6:46 PM
To: Jaws List 
Subject: [JAWS-Users] I need help to do the following.

Hello to my fellow subscribers. 
By Default, the key combo to get the date and time is insert key f12. 
I would like to change that to either ctrl t or ctrl w. 
Could someone ship me step by step instructions on how to do that? 
I would be greatful for the help. 

Ron and current Leader Dog boz who states "that a service dog beats a cane
paws down any day of the week."
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Re: [JAWS-Users] very important verify your ms account with w-10

[Merv Keck]

I had to verify it on both laptops when I updated to windows 10. I did it using 
Jaws and Magic but it was not easy. I had Microsoft send me the text. 

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of anna vimini
Sent: Friday, October 2, 2015 3:22 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] very important verify your ms account with w-10

are you using the same ms account on both your lab top and your desk top 
computer maybe that is the reason you can not verify your account on your lab 
top What I am trying to say if your using the same ms account on your desk top 
and your lab top the account is already verified .
just a thought
Re: [JAWS-Users] Very important, verifying your M S account in w-10 Narrator, 
my wife, myself, Microsoft, can not verify.
Waiting on a phone call.

-Original Message- From: dan
Sent: Friday, October 02, 2015 2:23 PM
To:
jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Very important, verifying your M S account in
w-10

Use narrator in this scenario and do please report the issues with jaws to FS

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From: JAWS-Users-List [
mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
On Behalf Of jim
Sent: 02 October 2015 19:13
To:
jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Very important, verifying your M S account in w-10

Hi Jaws Users group.
If you are using a Microsoft account to sign into your w-10 computer, you must 
verify your account!
You will need sited help or you need to call the M S Support line at:
Microsoft Free Computer Repair Number. 1 800 936 – 5900 How to check your 
system to see if you need to verify.
Windows key+I, for settings.
Right arrow to, Account, press enter.
Tab one time and listen, tab a second time, if you need to verify, this will 
say, verify link.
Press enter on this link, will bring up a empty container window that Jaws can 
not read.
I was able to use the touch cursor successfully on my desktop, and had 
Microsoft send me a text code to my cell phone.
Which I entered into my desktop correctly and verified my computer with my 
Microsoft account.
However, we did not verify our laptop yet.
So, this morning when it came on, my wife could not access her email.
The reason why, was that Microsoft turned our anti-virus off, and under 
security, there was that same verify link.
so, if you do not verify shortly after installing w-10, if you use a Microsoft 
account, this same thing will happen to you.
I am not able to verify our laptop.
After spending 1 and a half hours with Microsoft, they were not able to verify 
it either.
So, waiting on a phone call, I did let them know that this verify screen is not 
accessible at all.
So, why I am waiting, I am still trying to use the Jaws touch cursor to verify 
our laptop.
Final thoughts, if you have sited help, use them to verify your Microsoft 
account, if not one of these days your anti-virus, will be turned off by 
Microsoft to remind you to verify your account.
I personally, do not like this procedure, but Microsoft says, its for security 
purposes.
Those of you, who, do not have sited help, call the above support number.
If you are using a Microsoft account to sign-in, this verification is required, 
no way around it.
Good luck...



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Re: [JAWS-Users] A GOOD AND ACCESSIBLE ANTI-VIRUS PROGRAM

[Merv Keck]

I am playing with a trial of viper Internet security at the current time. It
seems to be working pretty well as far as jaws and accessibility goes so
far. There are still a few things I want to play with before buying it for
the machines in the house such as installing a program that force me to add
an exception. The only curiosity I have encountered thus far was when it
kept asking me to choose my Qualcomm Network adapter as a trusted device or
something now I can't remember the exact message. And it asked me about 5
times. Other than that I have been pretty happy so far with viper Internet
security with Jaws on windows 10.


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Londa Peterson
Sent: Friday, September 11, 2015 10:27 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] A GOOD AND ACCESSIBLE ANTI-VIRUS PROGRAM

FS definitely does advise against using Avast and with good reason. Avast
can actually block certain features of JAWS. I experienced this at my job
when an Avast update suddenly prevented JAWS from reading my Outlook email.
I was able to fix it, but I had to perform a radical uninstall of JAWS to do
so. I had to uninstall JAWS, all shared components and my user settings. I
think I may have also had to do something with the registry, but I don't
remember for sure. I don't have a choice at work, but I will not be trying
Avast on any machine of my own any time soon. They'd have to make some
changes before I'd even consider it. 

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2015 8:52 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] A GOOD AND ACCESSIBLE ANTI-VIRUS PROGRAM

John:

Your favorable reports about Avast are interesting.

I say this because FS Tech Support strongly advised me against using Avast,
due to supposed incompatibilities with Jaws.

I did use it for a time before developing some problems with my current
computer this past Summer, but again, was specifically advised against using
Avast by FS Tech Support.

I'm not sure how much all of this is worth, but just thought I'd share what
I was told.

Dr.  Tom Behler


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of John Justice
Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2015 11:47 AM
To: Jaws Users E-mail List
Subject: [JAWS-Users] A GOOD AND ACCESSIBLE ANTI-VIRUS PROGRAM

I have been using Avast as my anti-virus protection.  It also looks for
unwanted programs or for software which needs updating.

There is a free version and recent updates have made it quite accessible for
Jaws users.

It also has its own voice and sound elements.  I am very pleased with the
results and with  the accessible status of Avast.  The web site is below.

 

http://www.avast.com

 

IMPORTANT NOTE:

There are two Avast versions.  The second version does have a charge but
it's even more effective than the free software.

 

 

John and linda justice

Personal e-mail: john_just...@verizon.net 

 



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Re: [JAWS-Users] Cortana

[Merv Keck]

Hi,
I use Cortana on two machines and I have I e 11 as my default browser.
One was upgraded from windows 7 and one from 8.1.
Hope that helps.


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Alan Robbins
Sent: Wednesday, August 5, 2015 6:53 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Cortana

Mike,

Thanks. It mentions Cortana with the Edge browser. Does it work with IE as
well?

Best,
Al

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From: JAWS-Users-List
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Michael Boyd
Sent: Wednesday, August 05, 2015 6:44 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Cortana


Steve,

Check out the article at the following link. It is a pretty good look at
setting up and using Cortana.

http://www.thewindowsclub.com/set-up-cortana-in-windows-10

I hope this is something like you are looking for.

Mike
mike@comcast.net

-Original Message-
From: Steve Cook
Sent: Wednesday, August 05, 2015 12:30 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Cortana

Hi All,

Just upgraded my laptop to Windows 10.  How do I go about setting up Cortana
and using it?  Thanks in advance!

Steve Cook
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Re: [JAWS-Users] start menu in windows 10.

[Merv Keck]

Hi,
Some people are having success by uninstalling Jaws and then re-installing
Jaws. Hopefully a more helpful solution will be forthcoming but for now that
seems to do the trick for many.
Hope that helps.
Merv


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Behalf Of Doug Oliver
Sent: Monday, August 3, 2015 5:52 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] start menu in windows 10.

Hello,  I have a question for all of you.
I'm currently noticing a big huge issue in windows 10 with JAWS 16.
I'm trying to actually go through the start menu in windows 10 but when I up
and down arrow after pressing the Windows key it says start, but when I hit
the up arrow to get to things, it won't even read it.
please let me know what I need ot do to fix this probme.  Many thanks, Doug
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Re: [JAWS-Users] question about jaws and windows 10

[Merv Keck]

Hi,
I think it depends on how comfortable you are with tech will depend on
whether you need sight to update to windows ten. Last night I updated my
Lenovo Laptop running Windows 8.1 to windows 10 without sight with no
difficulties. I had one moment of hesitation when it brought up a screen
after a reboot and did not speak. I thought I wonder what it is doing now
and I wonder if it is safe to use narrator. So I whipped out my iPhone and
my KNFB reader in a totally dark room and it read the screen to me. And from
the contents of the screen I knew it was safe to use narrator to get me to
the log in screen at which point jaws kicked in. I was already running the
latest version of jaws. Once that happened I could exit narrator and log in.

I should also add that I was running on about two hours of sleep at the time
and was barely functioning myself at the time. Tonight I activated Cortana
and configured the default browser and everything is running very well with
jaws 16, magic 13 which I do occasionally use but did not use last night,
and windows 10. 
Hope that helps.
Merv


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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Jason Tomlinson
Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2015 10:06 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] question about jaws and windows 10

jaws works quite well with win10 and yes it will upgrade straight from
windows8 and you shouldn't need any sighted assistance but it is helpful

Jason

On 7/30/2015 20:58, Johna Lynn Nordin wrote:
 Hello,

 I'm wondering if this install is something I can do on my own without 
 sighted assistance?  Does it automatically install over the current 
 windows version?  I have windows 8.1.  I have jaws 16.  Does windows 
 10 work with jaws 16 or should I wait until I get 17?

 Thanks in advance for any answers you can give.

 Johna

   

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Adobe Digital Editions: JAWS doesn't see the screen content

[Merv Keck]

For me it worked very well with all the documents I have tried so far. Although 
I was pretty tired last night and I apologize if I mixed up Adobe digital 
Edition the book reader at any time with Adobe document cloud the replacement 
for Adobe reader X and so on. I did not mean to cause any confusion on or off 
the list. 
When I went through the Accessibility Setup at the beginning I accepted all the 
default recommendations except on Screen four where it asked me if I wanted to 
Open the document in my browser. I unchecked that box because although some 
people need to open it in their browser for better performance when printing I 
do not currently own a printer and I find this option works better for reading 
with Jaws and documents. Most of the documents I have been working with have a 
lot of pictures but I will see if I can find one that is definitely full page 
graphics.

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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Londa Peterson
Sent: Monday, July 20, 2015 10:06 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Adobe Digital Editions: JAWS doesn't see the screen 
content

Is there something special you have to do to get the Reader DC to work? I tried 
it and couldn't get JAWS to read anything. The same document worked fine in the 
old version of Reader, so it wasn't an image only pdf. I'd be willing to try 
this again if I could get it to work? 

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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Merv Keck
Sent: Sunday, July 19, 2015 11:16 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Adobe Digital Editions: JAWS doesn't see the screen 
content

Adobe DC latest build works very well with Jaws sixteen. You may wish to go to 
the Adobe website and make sure you are running the latest version. If you 
already have Adobe digital Reader installed you may want to make sure it is up 
to date since they recently updated it only a couple of days ago and made some 
major improvements to accessibility.
I recently bought a piece of technology and went to the website where it was 
made and downloaded the User Manual today and read it without any issues at all.
One thing I generally do that I understand can be helpful is when I do the 
initial accessibility setup, Is I uncheck the box for Open document in web 
browser. While this is a personal preference I find that it often works better 
for me if I open it in the Adobe program than in Internet Explorer 11 which is 
the browser of choice for me.
Hope that helps.
Merv


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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Sachin
Sent: Sunday, July 19, 2015 9:40 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Re: Adobe Digital Editions: JAWS doesn't see the 
screencontent

Hi, sorry, I beg to defer your opinion. Ade is a Jaws-Friendly software. 
I usually use it to read my books.However, I don’t know what the cause of this 
particular problem is



On 7/20/2015 1:26 AM, Flor Lynch wrote:
 As far as I know, JAWS has never worked with Adobe Digital Editions 
 (software). Does NVDA read everything on the screen, including 
 content? It was believed to be not screen-reader friendly.

 -Original Message- From: Harri Tuominen
 Sent: Sunday, July 19, 2015 8:45 PM
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Subject: [JAWS-Users] Adobe Digital Editions: JAWS doesn't see the 
 screencontent

 Hello!

 I installed Adobe Digital Editions version 4.0.3.0. It seems that JAWS 
 doesn't see the content of the screen.

 I can open the sample ebook, Getting started with Adobe Digital 
 Editions 4.0, but there is nothing on the screen that JAWS can see.
 The only chance to read something wit the JAWS cursor is to use OCR 
 (Insert+Space o w). I can tab through  various buttons and my speech 
 synthesizer speaks the button texts. They are also visible on my 
 Braille display. But JAWS 15 (or 16 as well) doesn't see the book 
 content. Insert+F says No font everywhere, even in the Item info box 
 (Ctrl+I).

 A sighted person said that everything on the screen seems to bee OK. 
 NVDA seems to work quite well with ADE, so the problem has something 
 to do with JAWS, perhaps with its video intercept.

 I have reinstalled video intercept. I also tried Adobe Digital 
 Editions version 3. But the problem is the same. I have changed 
 Windows themes and screen resolution — JAWS behaves always in the same 
 way.

 I have Windows 7 32 bit, JAWS 15.0.12085 and a demo version of JAWS 16 
 with latest updates.

 My display adapter is Intel G41 Express Chipset (WDDM).

 Any ideas? What could I try next?




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Re: [JAWS-Users] Adobe Digital Editions: JAWS doesn't see the screen content

[Merv Keck]

Adobe DC latest build works very well with Jaws sixteen. You may wish to go to 
the Adobe website and make sure you are running the latest version. If you 
already have Adobe digital Reader installed you may want to make sure it is up 
to date since they recently updated it only a couple of days ago and made some 
major improvements to accessibility.
I recently bought a piece of technology and went to the website where it was 
made and downloaded the User Manual today and read it without any issues at all.
One thing I generally do that I understand can be helpful is when I do the 
initial accessibility setup, Is I uncheck the box for Open document in web 
browser. While this is a personal preference I find that it often works better 
for me if I open it in the Adobe program than in Internet Explorer 11 which is 
the browser of choice for me.
Hope that helps.
Merv


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Sachin
Sent: Sunday, July 19, 2015 9:40 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Re: Adobe Digital Editions: JAWS doesn't see the 
screencontent

Hi, sorry, I beg to defer your opinion. Ade is a Jaws-Friendly software. 
I usually use it to read my books.However, I don’t know what the cause of this 
particular problem is



On 7/20/2015 1:26 AM, Flor Lynch wrote:
 As far as I know, JAWS has never worked with Adobe Digital Editions 
 (software). Does NVDA read everything on the screen, including 
 content? It was believed to be not screen-reader friendly.

 -Original Message- From: Harri Tuominen
 Sent: Sunday, July 19, 2015 8:45 PM
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Subject: [JAWS-Users] Adobe Digital Editions: JAWS doesn't see the 
 screencontent

 Hello!

 I installed Adobe Digital Editions version 4.0.3.0. It seems that JAWS 
 doesn't see the content of the screen.

 I can open the sample ebook, Getting started with Adobe Digital 
 Editions 4.0, but there is nothing on the screen that JAWS can see. 
 The only chance to read something wit the JAWS cursor is to use OCR 
 (Insert+Space o w). I can tab through  various buttons and my speech 
 synthesizer speaks the button texts. They are also visible on my 
 Braille display. But JAWS 15 (or 16 as well) doesn't see the book 
 content. Insert+F says No font everywhere, even in the Item info box 
 (Ctrl+I).

 A sighted person said that everything on the screen seems to bee OK. 
 NVDA seems to work quite well with ADE, so the problem has something 
 to do with JAWS, perhaps with its video intercept.

 I have reinstalled video intercept. I also tried Adobe Digital 
 Editions version 3. But the problem is the same. I have changed 
 Windows themes and screen resolution — JAWS behaves always in the same 
 way.

 I have Windows 7 32 bit, JAWS 15.0.12085 and a demo version of JAWS 16 
 with latest updates.

 My display adapter is Intel G41 Express Chipset (WDDM).

 Any ideas? What could I try next?




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Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 17

[Merv Keck]

?

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mike O'Brien
Sent: Thursday, July 2, 2015 1:21 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 17

Hi

After you have installed JAWS 17, you will be able to use the Check For
Updates feature to get subsequent updates.  But to initially install JAWS
17, you will need to download the installation program from Freedom
Scientific and run it.  The check for updates feature will only show updates
for the version of JAWS that is running.


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Behalf Of petras
Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2015 09:24
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] jaws 17

Hi, will it be possible to update jaws 17 through the jaws updates available
propst?

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Re: [JAWS-Users] goldwave 6 scripts

[Merv Keck]

Hi,

I would also like to know about Goldwave six scripts. I have found that 6.10
is a bit of a chore to use.

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Re: [JAWS-Users] [Bulk] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: JAVA ACCESS Bridge

[Merv Keck]

Hi,

My thoughts exactly. UAC is not really necessary on my system at this point
in my life except to provide typing practice. Laughs!

I get to hit an extra key!

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Re: [JAWS-Users] JAVA ACCESS Bridge

[Merv Keck]

Hi,

I am supposed to be a little on the paranoid side and I have had UAC turned
off for two years, Laughs! I believe it to be more of a nuisance than a
security aid. If I really need to secure my computer I just lock it behind a
password when I leave the room. Which I do when I get up to leave the room
for any reason at all. However, for installation of programs sake, I don't
really have confidence that UAC is going to be of any use because if anyone
is working on my computer without authorization they will just click yes.

Merv

 

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Re: [JAWS-Users] bit defender

[Merv Keck]

Hi,

I have not used it in several years now. About four years ago I switched
away from it after losing most of my useable vision and it was largely
inaccessible,. As far as I know it is still not accessible and largely cloud
based which is sad because it is one of the best out there and I wish I
still was using it. 

Merv

 

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Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 16 reading web pages HTML code

[Merv Keck]

I have not attempted this so I am asking not guessing here. Has flexible web
been used to try to work around the issue? I personally have found that to
be more frustrating than useful much as Research It.

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Re: [JAWS-Users] [Bulk] Re: Amazon

[Merv Keck]

It is a known issue with both Amazon sites in the U S and U K and the
checkout button. FS has been working on it for some time. 

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Problems Accessing Amazon.com

[Merv Keck]

Hi,

I am using Jaws 15 and Internet Explorer 11. However, I surmise that these
tips may be helpful with other versions of both Jaws and Internet Explorer.
I cannot speak for Firefox, however, because I do not have it installed on
either one of my Windows 7 sixty four bit computers.

First of all, Amazon has begun to crowd it's pages with far too much
information. Between flash and graphical buttons and links it is very
difficult sometimes to navigate to the place you want to go.

The past forty days I have been updating our two bedroom two bathroom
apartment and I have been ordering items from Amazon almost every day. I use
the following navigational guidelines to speed up my browsing.

First, knowing that there will be about 350 links on the page including
pictures, I give it a chance to load. Then I press e to put me the search
dialog box. Once I type my keyword for which I am searching. For example
dining table. I give it another chance to load another page of too many
links and pictures and graphics after I have pressed enter. Now to the
individual who posed this question, I am not attempting to insult your
intelligence with baby steps. I am giving detailed instructions for anyone
who wants them but who is not as experienced with jaws or with Internet
Explorer as you no doubt are. Smile!

Anyway once this page of search results has been loaded I narrow down my
results because I am a Prime user. Even if you do not have Prime you can
benefit by the same keystrokes. I hit h2 and this will take me over to
heading 2 where Jaws will voice a selection of options that Amazon has such
as Prime  or if I do not want to eliminate Prime shipping I can further down
arrow and choose other options such as add ons  or color choices  or price
limits and so on. I can press enter on each choice and each time give Amazon
a few seconds for the page to load and then press h to cycle through my
options instead of arrowing through the very noisy page of hundreds of links
that sometimes freezes Jaws or even Internet Explorer.

Once I have found an item I want to look at more closely for example a
specific dining table I press enter and the page for that table will load
with another 200 links including pictures and graphical links. I can also
use the h to skip a bunch of amazon pushes for everything from Kindle
unlimited to Kindle fire to amazon phone etc. This will speed me through the
adds for what others who looked at this choice eventually purchased to the
reviews and the technical specifications which I really want to see and I
can go right to the combo box where I can select more than one of this item
and then arrow right down to add to cart.

This also allows me to skip their new little trick where they put one click
purchasing right below add to cart so that will get turned on and they can
sell me stuff automatically without me even knowing it if I am not very
careful.

And once I am done instead of playing around with the b over and over
where they try to sell me tons of other stuff that is claimed to be related
to what I just bought which is a bunch of crap, Laughs! I just hit Jaws very
useful Insert + F7 and choose My cart or whatever your cart happens to
be named. And then hit b and it will take you to proceed to checkout right
away. 

That will save you a whole lot of time which will keep your jaws and your
browser from freezing up with all the adds and extra links and extra
graphical buttons and ads that amazon has recently started adding.

HTH

Blind5sparrow

 

 

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Weather problem Re: Research it

[Merv Keck]

Hi,

I keep forgetting I have Research It. However, I tried Weather and several
other Research It features using Jaws on two 64 bit computers yesterday and
had no difficulties at all. This is jaws 15 and Windows 7 on a 64 bit HP and
ACER laptop. Specifically, weather worked for me for several different
locations.

 

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Kaspersky and jaws

[Merv Keck]

Hi,

I would love to use Kaspersky since I have a 3 License copy of the latest
version sitting here unused now for the second year. I get it free with a
service agreement I have on three machines. However, due to the problems I
keep hearing with both Jaws and Magic and Kaspersky I am very hesitant to
install it on any of the 3 machines. 

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Questions about upgrading to IE11

[Merv Keck]

I had that log in problem with I E 10 and an Amped 10,000 square foot Wifi 
repeater and it turned out to be a Java issue. I had Java disabled and Amped 
or that repeater required java to configure it.

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Questions about upgrading to IE11

[Merv Keck]

Windows Update is the easiest way to update to I e 11. It is listed as an 
important update and usually updates without a problem. I went through 
yesterday and updated all the computers in the house except one that is 
using older software in a matter of minutes. 



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Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws and Magic

[Merv Keck]

I personally use both Magic  Jaws together. I started using Magic when my 
sight was good enough that I only needed 4X magnification and no Jaws but 
became aware of Jaws both because my wife used it and then because as a 
trainer at a position I held back in 2004 they asked me if I would train a 
Jaws user to do the job in which no blind individual had ever done before. I 
taught myself Jaws 4.5 or whatever that version was called back then that 
they had in another part of the building because that was what their license 
was for and got a raise when the individual learned how to do the job and 
another raise when they decided they would keep her. I kept my Jaws skills 
honed even when the company closed that branch and I moved to another state. 
Eventually my sight dropped to the point that I moved Magic to 22X and my 
wife suggested that I add jaws to the mix. I actually have a full version of 
ZoomText laying around in a box somewhere that they sent me which I have no 
intentions of installing because Magic and Jaws work so well together. I 
still don't know why they sent it to me or how they even got my new address. 
I used ZoomText back in like 2003 before I was aware of Magic's existence 
but haven't used it since.



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Re: [JAWS-Users] new voices?

[Merv Keck]

Allison, Ava, Smantha, and Tom are the U.S. voices. However, they are very 
expressive as was discussed in the latest FS cast as compared to previous 
versions. The direct version does not indicate caps by raising pitch like 
the expressive version. I am using Ava myself and am very happy with the 
response on my Windows 7 64 bit running both jaws and magic with 6 gigs of 
ram.
I am not up on all the additional voices for other countries but I am 
impressed with all the vocalizer expressive voices out there for everyone 
already.

I am also very happy with the first public beta so far.
It's playing very well with Magic 12 and comes in handy on all these 
overcrowded web sites today.

blind5sparrow


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Bill Pay

[Merv Keck]

The first thing I hear when I hit my bill pay page at GTE financial is 
screen reader users click hto make this page more accessible.



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Re: [JAWS-Users] Bill Pay

[Merv Keck]

It's not up to the screen reader it's up to the designer of the web site. 
That is what my bank does. It gives you the option to turn off all dynamic 
crap right away so everything works with your screen reader. 



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Re: [JAWS-Users] Router Question

[Merv Keck]

Cisco Lynksys E 4200 v1
I specified version 1 because they came out with v 2 a year later which has 
a faster processor but a little shorter range.
I like the v 1 better. It's plenty fast enough, accessible, andincludes the 
5 gig band if you happen to have an apple TV.
we also live in a 2 bedroom 2 bathroom  apartment and I can walk outside and 
up the street before I lose wifi on my iPhone.



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Re: [JAWS-Users] IE 10

[Merv Keck]

I have been using I E 10 for several days successfully with Jaws, Magic and 
with Jaws and Magic together. I have had no difficulties at all on any site 
including google, banking, sendspace, or anywhere else I have gone. Even 
Amazon has not been a problem using Jaws and or Magic and I e 10. I have two 
Windows 7 sixty four bit laptops.

blind5sparrow


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Re: [JAWS-Users] amazon ordering form problem

[Merv Keck]

Amazon was having some form issues yesterday for several hours. They were 
not allowing input into their forms including search on their main site. 
They were returning very strange error messages when inputting data into 
form fields but it got cleared up after a couple hours. Perhaps you should 
try again today.



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Re: [JAWS-Users] Office 2013 with JAWS

[Merv Keck]

No they didn't charge me but it took a lot of convincing on my part. They 
are very contrary at Microsoft. 



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Re: [JAWS-Users] Office 2013 with JAWS

[Merv Keck]

You can call Microsoft and beg them to give you an activation of your 
current version of Office but it's a major pain in the butt. You end up 
talking to several arragont egotistical Microsoft butt holes who come 
straight out and ask you if you are a Pirate because you actually dare to 
want to use 2003 in 2013 and oh my your hard drive might have failed once or 
ti=wice or you might have got a new computer in ten years. I lost my temper 
on the third guy and got the activation code for 2007 but a year later my 
hard drive failed and I'm like ok no more Office for me they aren't worth 
it. Man do I miss Excel every stinking day LOL!

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws and Tween twitter client

[Merv Keck]

I use the Cube on both my 64 bit windows 7 laptops and I tried Tween for 
like a day and hated it.



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Re: [JAWS-Users] Libronics Bible software and Windows 7 or 8

[Merv Keck]

Unless things have changed you will have problems installing Logos 3 on a 
Windows 7 machine. I updated to Logos 4 Platinum because when I bought a 
Windows 7 machine Logos told me my Logos 3 discs would not load on the 
machine. Some of the software was downloadable but I had added in a lot of 
books on CD that I could not use until I upgraded to Logos 4. However, Logos 
4 is still mostly not working with Jaws because of the way Logos 4 renders 
their books. I can't speak for Windows 8 though.



-Original Message- 
From: Ralph Supernaw

Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2012 12:54 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Libronics Bible software and Windows 7 or 8

Hi,

Has anyone used the Libronics Bible software version 3 with Windows 7 or 8?
I am looking at new computers but am concerned that I will lose my ability
to use Libronics.

I assume Libronics 4 is till unuseable with Windows 7 and 8.

Thanks




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Re: [JAWS-Users] Libronics Bible software and Windows 7 or 8

[Merv Keck]

Hopefully Logos 4 or eventually Logos 5 will work better with Jaws and Magic 
because I need the advanced tools that only Logos can offer. Currently I get 
enough accessibility with Jaws  Magic to be able to work with the 2,048 
resources I currently have. However, there is a need for a bit more 
accessibility through no fault of either Jaws or Magic. I need the highly 
advanced tools that only Logos offers www.logos.com so currently will stick 
with the accessibility that I have. 



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Re: [JAWS-Users] nls bard and jaws 13

[Merv Keck]

From the well worn thread on this subject it looks like people with 32 bit 
Windows 7 and possibly XP are having the issue and not 64 bit computers. I 
also have had absolutely no issues on any web site since the update on my 64 
bit windows 7 machine running Jaws 13 with the latest update.


-Original Message- 
From: RJ

Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2012 12:22 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] nls bard and jaws 13



The problem is with I E 8 and J13 update
- Original Message - 
From: David Ferrin ow...@jaws-users.com

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2012 7:31 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] nls bard and jaws 13



I just left that web site and my experience was trouble free for what it's
worth. Windows 7 64 bit with IE 9.


David Ferrin
Always be yourself because the people that matter don't mind, and the ones
that mind don't matter.

-Original Message-
From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Norman King
Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2012 7:20 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] nls bard and jaws 13

Hi.
I don't know what else it could be.
You could try making another account but I don't have any idea if this 
would

fix the problem

-Original Message-
From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Lenny McHugh
Sent: Monday, July 30, 2012 10:11 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] nls bard and jaws 13

This is most interesting. I just had my wife try it from her Macbook with
the same results.

-Original Message-
From: RJ
Sent: Monday, July 30, 2012 7:54 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] nls bard and jaws 13

If you are using I E 9, there should be no problem. I E 8, you will have 
to

update the screen manually.
- Original Message -
From: Norman King norbk...@gmail.com
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Monday, July 30, 2012 7:30 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] nls bard and jaws 13



Hi.
It's not bard.
I can log in just fine.
I use internet explorer 8 and 9.


-Original Message-
From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Lenny
McHugh
Sent: Monday, July 30, 2012 7:27 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] nls bard and jaws 13

it is not jaws. My wife can not log in and jaws is not running. I
later want her to try and log in on her macbook. If she can not the
problem is at the barb site.

-Original Message-
From: Norman King
Sent: Monday, July 30, 2012 7:05 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] nls bard and jaws 13

Hi.
Do you have another screen reader on your machine?
If so you could try using that screen reader to enter the password and
see if it works.
That will tell you if the problem is jaws or not.

-Original Message-
From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Lenny
McHugh
Sent: Monday, July 30, 2012 4:37 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] nls bard and jaws 13

no, they have been working on it and they set up the temp password. It
gets messed up from my computer to their server. They go into my
account establish a new password and send it to me. Then it fails when
I try to log in.

-Original Message-
From: Norman King
Sent: Monday, July 30, 2012 3:24 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] nls bard and jaws 13

Hi.
It sounds like there is something wrong with your account.

-Original Message-
From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Lenny
McHugh
Sent: Monday, July 30, 2012 3:07 PM
To: JFW List
Subject: [JAWS-Users] nls bard and jaws 13

The problem is not at all with jaws 13 latest build. I have no idea
where it is.
I had several new ones sent and tried with jaws 12 and it failed.
Another new temp was sent to me and tried it with jaws 11. I had them
send me yet another. This time I unloaded jaws and had my wife enter
the temp password and it failed.
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Re: [JAWS-Users] I just got new hardware for my computer and have aquestion regarding Jaws installation.

[Merv Keck]

I highly recommend you install your hardware first. When you add new 
hardware you usually have to reactivate. I'm speaking from personal 
experience.
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Alt Tab in Windows 7

[Merv Keck]

Sometimes you need to hit Alt Tab twice really fast.  I've always had that 
problem even with XP even before my sight got bad enough I had to depend 
mostly on Jaws.  I just hit Alt Tab twice rapidly and it moves to the next 
open application.  I use Windows 7, Jaws, and Magic.

blind5sparrow


-Original Message- 
From: Scott Duck

Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2012 9:19 AM
To: Jaws List
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Alt Tab in Windows 7

Hi Everyone,

I posted about this a while back but I didn't get any response.  I thought
that I would try again and see if I can explain myself a bit better.  Sense
I have started using Windows 7, I have been having a problem with using alt
tab to switch between programs.  For example, lets say that I have open
JAWS, Excel, Word, Outlook, and Internet Explorer.  I am in Excel and I need
to look up something on the net so I alt tab over to Internet Explorer.
Now, I try to alt tab back to Excel but I cannot.  Alt tab will only go
between IE and JAWS.  So, I use insert F10 to bring up the JAWS window list
and select Excel from there.  Now that I have done that, I can again alt tab
between all of the open programs.  Is there a setting that I can change to
make it so that all of the open programs are always in the alt tab rotation?
I don't know for sure that Windows 7 is what is causing the problem but I
have used all flavors of Windows back to Windows 3.1 and I have not had this
problem before.  I upgraded to JAWS 13 at the same time that I upgraded to
Windows 7 so I suppose that JAWS could be the problem.  I would appreciate
any suggestions.

Thanks,

Scott Duck

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Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS, MAGIC and Firefox

[Merv Keck]

I use Jaws, Magic, Firefoxthe latest version as well as Internet Explorer 8 
and I have the same problem. On some sites the difference is so pronounced 
that I turn off magic and just trust Jaws to get things done because the 
site is a bill paying site and will time out before I find my place. I have 
had this problem on every computer in every version of Magic  every version 
of Jaws in both XP and 7 so I would be surprised if there is a solution out 
there.  Happily surprised that is LOL!


blind5sparrow

-Original Message- 
From: Joe McCormick

Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2012 12:50 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] JAWS, MAGIC and Firefox

Hi All,

I am new to the list and am not sure if anyone is a JAWS and Magic
user, but I am having a problem using JAWS and Magic and any version
of firefox newer then 3.6. On many webpages, Magic's focus is not at
the same place is where JAWS is reading. It is usually about a half
line above where JAWS is reading. This has become very distracting and
hard to follow. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,

Joe McCormick
Harvard '14
jmccorm...@college.harvard.edu

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Using JAWS and buying a new computer

[Merv Keck]

congratulations! I love my I7. Jaws 13 runs very well on it.

-Original Message- 
From: Kimberly Thurman

Sent: Friday, February 17, 2012 1:28 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Using JAWS and buying a new computer

Well, I got the new computer.  It's an I7 processor with 8
gigs of ram, which were the two things I was going for.  It's a laptop.   I
decided I wanted to be able to take it with me if I needed to.  So far, so
good.  It seems to be a rockin little machine.  It's a 14 inch model, very
light and thin with pretty long battery life.

I've installed Jaws 13 and Microsoft 2010 so far.  This is my first email on
it.

Thanks for everyone's help.  I may have more questions in the future.

Thanks again,

Kim

-Original Message-
From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Hamit Campos
Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2012 6:34 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Using JAWS and buying a new computer

There's something else about a desktop that makes it a still cool option,
they're expandible. Laptops are kind of I guess, but you can't swop things
in and out when ever you feel the need like on a desk top. Again, not
bashing lap tops, after all, I just love the Dell XPS17, just making you
aware of all things is all.

-Original Message-
From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of John R Vaughn
Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 9:47 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Using JAWS and buying a new computer

Kim, I just purchased a new laptop as I want something portable so I can
travel with the computer.  This time, I went more top end and bought 8 gigs
of memory, an Intel I 5 2430 processor (quad processor with turbo boost) and
a 7200 rpm hard drive.  I am using office 2010 and windows 7 home premium.
I wanted something that would not get bogged down when working with Word(a
memory hog) and outlook and the internet.  I can have numerous documents,
web pages and excel all opened and no slowdown.  I am a 22 year user of jaws
and have never had a computer like this and after two months, have not
locked it up.
I agree with the one suggestion that you consider whether you need the
ability to travel with the computer and if not, the desk top might be fine
as they are usually cheaper for the same capability as a laptop.  That said,
I have another 15 inch laptop that I have 4 USB ports on and I plug a
keyboard into the computer alone with a scanner and remote hard drive and
printer so that it works like a desktop but I could pick it up and travel
with it.  This laptop however weighs 6 pounds versus 3 pounds for my newest
laptop with a 13 inch screen.
Good luck and have fun getting the right computer.  If you take second best,
you will not enjoy the experience.  And I am the voice of experience talking
about that aspect of the issue.
John

-Original Message-
From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Kimberly
thurman
Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 4:10 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Using JAWS and buying a new computer

Hi everyone:

I'm starting a new medical transcription job and finding myself in need of a
new computer.  I will be running a transcription platform, which handles
downloading and playing of audio plus the word processing part of
transcription of that same audio.  The minimum requirements are for a core 2
duo processor with 3 gigs of ram 32 bit, or 4 gigs with 64 bit.  I realize
running jaws ups these requirements somewhat if I don't want to have lags
and sluggishness.

Can I get any suggestions for just how much processor speed and ram I should
spring for?  Should I just go all out and get as much power and memory as I
can afford?  Is anybody using JAWS with a solid state drive, and what's the
performance there like?  Any configurations I should avoid?  Should I go
desktop or laptop?

I have JAWS 13 and will be using the Windows 7 home version.

Thanks in advance and thanks for having me on the list.

Kim
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Using JAWS and buying a new computer

[Merv Keck]

If you get a 64 bit and can afford 6 gigs go for 6 gigs not the minimal 4. 
You won't regret it when using the audio stuff while having the 
transcription and the word files and everything else going on at the same 
time. I have a laptop with 6 gigs and a laptop with 4 gigs and both running 
top notch Ram and both running outstanding video cards but I still find that 
when I can afford it I want to update the secondary laptop to six gigs one 
of these days.



-Original Message- 
From: Kimberly thurman

Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 4:09 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Using JAWS and buying a new computer

Hi everyone:

I'm starting a new medical transcription job and finding myself in need of a 
new computer.  I will be running a transcription platform, which handles 
downloading and playing of audio plus the word processing part of 
transcription of that same audio.  The minimum requirements are for a core 2 
duo processor with 3 gigs of ram 32 bit, or 4 gigs with 64 bit.  I realize 
running jaws ups these requirements somewhat if I don't want to have lags 
and sluggishness.


Can I get any suggestions for just how much processor speed and ram I should 
spring for?  Should I just go all out and get as much power and memory as I 
can afford?  Is anybody using JAWS with a solid state drive, and what's the 
performance there like?  Any configurations I should avoid?  Should I go 
desktop or laptop?


I have JAWS 13 and will be using the Windows 7 home version.

Thanks in advance and thanks for having me on the list.

Kim
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Re: [JAWS-Users] scripting

[Merv Keck]

Hey There:
That book sounds like something I would be very interested in getting.  Is 
it May I ask where you found this title?

Thanks in advance
blind5sparrow

-Original Message- 
From: rouillardm...@aol.com

Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2012 6:04 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] scripting

Thank you.


In a message dated 1/24/2012 5:50:08 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
kimsans...@aol.com writes:

Hi,
It's called Everything You Always Wanted to Know About  Writing JFW Scripts,
But Didn't Know Whom to Ask.

-Original  Message-
From:  jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]  On Behalf Of
rouillardm...@aol.com
Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2012 1:02  PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users]  scripting

If you don't mind my asking, what is the name of the book you  are using? I
too am interested in learning jaws  scripting.
Thanks!
Mike


In a message dated 1/24/2012 4:00:25  P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
kimsans...@aol.com  writes:

Hi  Thanks for the tips guys. Slowly making my way through  this book and so
far  I got the keystroke to say my name is kimsan  after pressing CTRL
shift
N
from within notepad.
Back to mo  reading!

-Original  Message-
From:   jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]   On Behalf Of Mike O'Brien
Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2012 10:18  AM
To:  jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re:  [JAWS-Users]  scripting

Hi

The worst thing I have seen  writing scripts is that  you can put your
script
into a never ending  loop, which will make JAWS  respond very very slowly.
You usually have  to kill JAWS and restart  it.  But then you can fix or
delete the  offending script.  Often  in a script that needs to loop a  few
times, I'll put a safety counter in  the loop and increment or  decrement it
and when it hits the limit, get out  of the loop  immediately.

-Original Message-
From:   jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]   On Behalf Of Bissett, Tom
Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2012  12:50
To:  jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re:  [JAWS-Users]  scripting

Hi,  As long as you only alter or  create scripts in your  personal
directory
and don't modify anything  in the default [all users]  directory you won't
mess anything  up.
You can always roll back by  deleting the offending scripts in  your
personal
directory.
Regards
Tom  Bisset

-Original  Message-
From:   jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]   On Behalf Of Kimsan
Sent: January 24, 2012 12:14 PM
To:   JawsUsers
Subject: [JAWS-Users] scripting

Hi,

I am  finally  going to do it! Well not all of it because this book I  found
has a crap  load of information.

What  pointers/recommendations would a person have  for the person who  is
starting to learn scripting?

I quickly skimmed  through it  and there are a couple of small scrips of
which
they want us to   put together but mainly can I potentially mess something
up?
Lol, this  is  still a new laptop I have and I would hate to kill it
already.

Thanks.

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