Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 10 Not Talking on Boot Up

2011-08-07 Thread Mike O'Brien
Hi Margare

Dectalk Access 32 works fine for me under Windows XP using JAWS 12 all
levels including 1169.  However, I don't think it can be used on Windows
Vista or Windows 7 with JAWS at all.

Mike

-Original Message-
From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Margaret Thomas
Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2011 01:14
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 10 Not Talking on Boot Up

Doris and All,

I'm probably about as set as I'm going to be.  JAWS 10 does not seem to want
to run as a service on this machine and at least now seems to be coming up
talking after system boot up.  I tried copying the JAWS 10 icon on my
desktop to my startup folder as a temporary solution as you suggested and
thought it had been successful to at least have J 10 come up talking at some
point.  It wasn't doing it 100% of the time, though and somehow, my efforts
without sighted assistance available apparently resulted in the OE menu bar
being moved.  I'd thought something was blocking My Desktop and had planned
on calling my tech for a remote session anyway, but the new OE problem made
that essential.

He didn't find anything blocking My Desktop, but I did see something one
time, but wasn't able to determine what it was.  I vastly prefer DEC-Talk
Access 32 to Eloquence and another tech at his shop has seen the screen I
think is causing the problem and he thought it had something to do with
DEC-Talk Access 32, but hadn't heard of it and wasn't sure.

The remote session with my tech got J10 talking after boot up and I had to
wait until this morning to call FS about the activation problem with J9
because of threatened severe thunder storms.

The FS support guy thought the activation problem was weird, so seemed to
agree with all of us here about that.  He thought uninstalling JAWS 9
probably wouldn't cause J10 to decide it wanted to be activated since it
would then be the earliest version.  He tried to encourage me to uninstall
JAWS 9 and 10.  I didn't have any problem uninstalling J9 as long as it
didn't create more activation problems, but I'm almost positive that 10 is
the last JAWS version I can continue to have my beloved DEC-Talk Access 32
run on.

After I hung up, I got 9 uninstalled and 10 doesn't seem to demand to be
activated, so I'm happy.

Margaret



- Original Message - 
From: Doris and Chris chipmu...@gmx.net
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2011 9:34 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 10 Not Talking on Boot Up


The new soundcard would be the reason your older jaws want to be activated.

for a fix until you can get your activation problem sorted out next 
week, you can copy the shortcut from your desktop for the version of 
jaws you want to run  - and that is activated - into your startup 
folder. This will give you speech automatically once your desktop is 
loaded. It is not quite the same as loading jaws as a service but 
should do the trick unless you need to have jaws speak at the logon screen.

jaws is way too picky about hardware changes with its activation. You 
might want to look into getting a hardware dongle to avoid such 
problmes - or see if the free nvda isn't sufficientfor what you need 
to do on the computer. g

hth

Doris



At 08:55 AM 7/31/2011, you wrote:
Doris,

Before my current round of trouble started about a week and a half 
ago, JAWS 9 and 10 were installed.  My SMA went to JAWS 12.  JAWS 11 
was on the machine, but not installed.

About a week and a half ago I lost speech , on the XP Home and it 
re-booted itself with a this computer has recovered from a serious 
error message and it said it was the blue screen error.  I couldn't 
get any version of JAWS to talk at all and computer literate sighted 
assistance couldn't get it talking with the mouse.  We did a remote 
session with my tech and he couldn't get it talking either.  When he 
heard about the blue screen error message, he said that it had 
happened to a lot of local computers lately due to frequent 
lightning strikes in the area.  He concluded that the sound card 
needed to be replaced and came over the next day and put in a 
replacement sound card.  He installed JAWS 12 from the CD while he was
here.

Part of the problem is that when I unload JAWS 10 to load J9 to go 
into basics or whatever they called it then to tell J9 not to load 
on startup, before I can press JAWS key-J, JAWS almost immediately 
says Activate button and wants to be activated.

Currently, there are icons on My Desktop for JAWS, 9, 10, and 
122.  J11 has not been installed.

It's been a long week and any more suggestions would be extremely
appreciated.

Margaret




- Original Message -
From: Doris and Chris chipmu...@gmx.net
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2011 6:44 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 10 Not Talking on Boot Up


Dear Miss Margaret,

You should not have to activate your  jaws 9.0 in order

Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 10 Not Talking on Boot Up

2011-08-02 Thread Margaret Thomas
Doris and All,

I'm probably about as set as I'm going to be.  JAWS 10 does not seem to want to 
run as a service on this machine and at least now seems to be coming up talking 
after system boot up.  I tried copying the JAWS 10 icon on my desktop to my 
startup folder as a temporary solution as you suggested and thought it had been 
successful to at least have J 10 come up talking at some point.  It wasn't 
doing it 100% of the time, though and somehow, my efforts without sighted 
assistance available apparently resulted in the OE menu bar being moved.  I'd 
thought something was blocking My Desktop and had planned on calling my tech 
for a remote session anyway, but the new OE problem made that essential.

He didn't find anything blocking My Desktop, but I did see something one time, 
but wasn't able to determine what it was.  I vastly prefer DEC-Talk Access 32 
to Eloquence and another tech at his shop has seen the screen I think is 
causing the problem and he thought it had something to do with DEC-Talk Access 
32, but hadn't heard of it and wasn't sure.

The remote session with my tech got J10 talking after boot up and I had to wait 
until this morning to call FS about the activation problem with J9 because of 
threatened severe thunder storms.

The FS support guy thought the activation problem was weird, so seemed to 
agree with all of us here about that.  He thought uninstalling JAWS 9 probably 
wouldn't cause J10 to decide it wanted to be activated since it would then be 
the earliest version.  He tried to encourage me to uninstall JAWS 9 and 10.  I 
didn't have any problem uninstalling J9 as long as it didn't create more 
activation problems, but I'm almost positive that 10 is the last JAWS version I 
can continue to have my beloved DEC-Talk Access 32 run on.

After I hung up, I got 9 uninstalled and 10 doesn't seem to demand to be 
activated, so I'm happy.

Margaret



- Original Message - 
From: Doris and Chris chipmu...@gmx.net
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2011 9:34 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 10 Not Talking on Boot Up


The new soundcard would be the reason your older jaws want to be activated.

for a fix until you can get your activation problem sorted out next 
week, you can copy the shortcut from your desktop for the version of 
jaws you want to run  - and that is activated - into your startup 
folder. This will give you speech automatically once your desktop is 
loaded. It is not quite the same as loading jaws as a service but 
should do the trick unless you need to have jaws speak at the logon screen.

jaws is way too picky about hardware changes with its activation. You 
might want to look into getting a hardware dongle to avoid such 
problmes - or see if the free nvda isn't sufficientfor what you need 
to do on the computer. g

hth

Doris



At 08:55 AM 7/31/2011, you wrote:
Doris,

Before my current round of trouble started about a week and a half 
ago, JAWS 9 and 10 were installed.  My SMA went to JAWS 12.  JAWS 11 
was on the machine, but not installed.

About a week and a half ago I lost speech , on the XP Home and it 
re-booted itself with a this computer has recovered from a serious 
error message and it said it was the blue screen error.  I couldn't 
get any version of JAWS to talk at all and computer literate sighted 
assistance couldn't get it talking with the mouse.  We did a remote 
session with my tech and he couldn't get it talking either.  When he 
heard about the blue screen error message, he said that it had 
happened to a lot of local computers lately due to frequent 
lightning strikes in the area.  He concluded that the sound card 
needed to be replaced and came over the next day and put in a 
replacement sound card.  He installed JAWS 12 from the CD while he was here.

Part of the problem is that when I unload JAWS 10 to load J9 to go 
into basics or whatever they called it then to tell J9 not to load 
on startup, before I can press JAWS key-J, JAWS almost immediately 
says Activate button and wants to be activated.

Currently, there are icons on My Desktop for JAWS, 9, 10, and 
122.  J11 has not been installed.

It's been a long week and any more suggestions would be extremely appreciated.

Margaret




- Original Message -
From: Doris and Chris chipmu...@gmx.net
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2011 6:44 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 10 Not Talking on Boot Up


Dear Miss Margaret,

You should not have to activate your  jaws 9.0 in order to turn off
the run jaws first option in it.

when it comes up after boot up and asks to be activated, have it run
in 40-minute mode instead. This is plenty of time to go into its
basic options and to uncheck the run first jaws (or run jaws at
windows startup or whatever it is called these days.

when you have unchecked the option in jaws 9, tab to the OK tutton,
enter on it. then close out jaws 9 and bring up jaws 10 or whatever
version you want to have

Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 10 Not Talking on Boot Up

2011-08-02 Thread Margaret Thomas
Hi Mike,

I had to unplug my computer yesterday after I had the remote session with my 
tech since big thunderstorms were predicted and couldn't talk to FS about the 
activation problem with JAWS 9 until this morning.

The support person originally said he thought maybe my fire wall was blocking 
the activation or that the activation number was wrong and I had a bit of 
trouble telling him that JAWS 12 installed without a problem, but he finally 
seemed to understand my problem and agreed that it was weird,  He didn't 
suggest the fix your friend was given, but said he thought just uninstalling J9 
would do the trick.  I did it when we finished the conversation and JAWS 10 
doesn't seem to be hollering to be activated.

I mentioned having requested my activations be reset to the full number after 
the replacement sound card was installed the weekend before last and he said he 
could reset it to 3 and I could hear him typing.  He didn't know if a 
confirmation message is supposed to be sent out.  I checked a while ago and the 
web site still said I had 1 activation.  I don't know if it takes time to 
become effective.

Thanks for helping,

Margaret

- Original Message - 
From: Mike  Barbara In Arcadia mb69ma...@charter.net
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2011 11:44 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 10 Not Talking on Boot Up


Hi Margaret,

A friend of ours had this same problem with Jaws9.  The fix for this 
problem, at least this is what we were  told by FS tech support, was to run 
Jaws9 as a service but, in order to do this, Jaws9 has to be the Jaws 
version that starts when the computer / Windows starts.  When you installed 
/ authorized Jaws12, that should have authorized Jaws12  all earlier Jaws 
versions that are installed on the computer.  When you ask to have your 
activation keys renewed, they usually only give you 1 activation key now, 
where in the past they used to give you your limit of all 3.  If I am 
incorrect or have misstated anything here, someone please jump in  correct 
me.  Hope this helps. Take care.
Mike
P.S. You should probably call FS tech support to talk to them about this 
Jaws9 problem, just in case something has changed since the time I talked to 
them about our friends' problem with the program.

  - Original Message - 
  From: Margaret Thomas
  To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
  Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2011 6:43 AM
  Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 10 Not Talking on Boot Up


  If you are referring to my request to have my activation count re-set, I 
requested it a week ago and never heard.  I don't know if the request got 
lost in the shuffle.  As of earlier this morning, my count is 1, so I don't 
understand why J9 wants to be activated since it has been on My Desktop for 
a couple years.  My memory is that I reluctantly installed JAWS 10 and was 
happily using J9 in normal mode.

  I apologize if you were referring to something else.

  Margaret

  - Original Message - 
  From: raymond lombardi ray...@gmail.com
  To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
  Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2011 8:32 AM
  Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 10 Not Talking on Boot Up





  You will get an email from them tomorrow or tuesday. it takes two or three
  days.



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  http://www.jaws-users.com/help/

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 10 Not Talking on Boot Up

2011-08-02 Thread Mike Barbara In Arcadia
Hi Margaret,

Below are real easy to follow steps on making Jaws run as a service.

http://www.jaws-users.com/text/JAWS/JawsAsAServiceHotkey.html

Hope this helps.  Take care.
Mike

  - Original Message - 
  From: Margaret Thomas
  To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
  Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2011 10:41 AM
  Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 10 Not Talking on Boot Up


  Hi Mike,

  I had to unplug my computer yesterday after I had the remote session with 
my tech since big thunderstorms were predicted and couldn't talk to FS about 
the activation problem with JAWS 9 until this morning.

  The support person originally said he thought maybe my fire wall was 
blocking the activation or that the activation number was wrong and I had a 
bit of trouble telling him that JAWS 12 installed without a problem, but he 
finally seemed to understand my problem and agreed that it was weird,  He 
didn't suggest the fix your friend was given, but said he thought just 
uninstalling J9 would do the trick.  I did it when we finished the 
conversation and JAWS 10 doesn't seem to be hollering to be activated.

  I mentioned having requested my activations be reset to the full number 
after the replacement sound card was installed the weekend before last and 
he said he could reset it to 3 and I could hear him typing.  He didn't know 
if a confirmation message is supposed to be sent out.  I checked a while ago 
and the web site still said I had 1 activation.  I don't know if it takes 
time to become effective.

  Thanks for helping,

  Margaret

  - Original Message - 
  From: Mike  Barbara In Arcadia mb69ma...@charter.net
  To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
  Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2011 11:44 AM
  Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 10 Not Talking on Boot Up


  Hi Margaret,

  A friend of ours had this same problem with Jaws9.  The fix for this
  problem, at least this is what we were  told by FS tech support, was to 
run
  Jaws9 as a service but, in order to do this, Jaws9 has to be the Jaws
  version that starts when the computer / Windows starts.  When you 
installed
  / authorized Jaws12, that should have authorized Jaws12  all earlier Jaws
  versions that are installed on the computer.  When you ask to have your
  activation keys renewed, they usually only give you 1 activation key now,
  where in the past they used to give you your limit of all 3.  If I am
  incorrect or have misstated anything here, someone please jump in  
correct
  me.  Hope this helps. Take care.
  Mike
  P.S. You should probably call FS tech support to talk to them about this
  Jaws9 problem, just in case something has changed since the time I talked 
to
  them about our friends' problem with the program.

- Original Message - 
From: Margaret Thomas
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2011 6:43 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 10 Not Talking on Boot Up


If you are referring to my request to have my activation count re-set, I
  requested it a week ago and never heard.  I don't know if the request got
  lost in the shuffle.  As of earlier this morning, my count is 1, so I 
don't
  understand why J9 wants to be activated since it has been on My Desktop 
for
  a couple years.  My memory is that I reluctantly installed JAWS 10 and was
  happily using J9 in normal mode.

I apologize if you were referring to something else.

Margaret

- Original Message - 
From: raymond lombardi ray...@gmail.com
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2011 8:32 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 10 Not Talking on Boot Up





You will get an email from them tomorrow or tuesday. it takes two or 
three
days.



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Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 10 Not Talking on Boot Up

2011-07-31 Thread Margaret Thomas
Raymond and All,

Activating 9, which was the one that wanted to be activated  failed.  I got an 
error message:

Client Activator
Error Code: 52500
You have received this message due to one of the following possibilities: 
- You are not connected to the Internet.  Check your connection and try again. 
- Your 20-digit Authorization number is typed incorrectly.  Check for spaces or 
incorrect characters and try again. 
- The Freedom Scientific server may be experiencing temporary difficulties.  
Try again later. 
- You have canceled registration.
If you continue to experience this problem, point your Internet browser to 
www.FSActivate.com and follow the instructions to retrieve an Activation 
License Code that will activate your product. 



I'm connected to the Internet.

www.freedomscientific.com

loads.

The 20 digit number came up from the activation disk.

I have not knowingly canceled registration.
My remaining activation count just now from 


www.FSActivate.com

is 1.  When I requested more last weekend, the form wanted my e-mail address, 
but I never heard from FS that they've approved or rejected the request.

I think I'll have to contact FS on Monday, but does anybody have any ideas in 
the mean time?  I don't think I Can remember the last I ran JAWS 9.  I can 
uninstall it, but I'm afraid JAWS 10 will decide it needs to be activated.

Thanks,

Margaret


- Original Message - 
From: raymond lombardi ray...@gmail.com
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2011 8:42 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 10 Not Talking on Boot Up




I would say run the version of jaws that wants to be activated and look to 
see if the automatically start jaws box is checked and if it is uncheck it.
 


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 10 Not Talking on Boot Up

2011-07-31 Thread Doris and Chris

Dear Miss Margaret,

You should not have to activate your  jaws 9.0 in order to turn off 
the run jaws first option in it.


when it comes up after bootup and asks to be activated, have it run 
in 40-minute mode instead. This is plenty of time to go into its 
basic options and to uncheck the run first jaws (or run jaws at 
windows startup or whatever it is called these days.


when you have unchecked the option in jaws 9, tab to the OK tutton, 
enter on it. then close out jaws 9 and bring up jaws 10 or whatever 
version you want to have coming up when you start your computer. go 
into its  options and and check the checkbox to have it start 
automatically. This should fix the problem.


I can only guess to the reason why your jaws 9 wants to be activated 
when your 10 is working fine. Did you by any chance get a new jaws 
license in between so that  the newer jaws maybe has a diferent 
serial number? You cold check the serial number  - not the long 
activation code) when you bring up the different versions to fix the 
automatic startup. This is just a wild guess, though.


good luck and keep us posted!

Cheers,

Doris




At 06:19 AM 7/31/2011, you wrote:

Raymond and All,

Activating 9, which was the one that wanted to be 
activated  failed.  I got an error message:


Client Activator
Error Code: 52500
You have received this message due to one of the following possibilities:
- You are not connected to the Internet.  Check your connection and 
try again.
- Your 20-digit Authorization number is typed incorrectly.  Check 
for spaces or incorrect characters and try again.
- The Freedom Scientific server may be experiencing temporary 
difficulties.  Try again later.

- You have canceled registration.
If you continue to experience this problem, point your Internet 
browser to www.FSActivate.com and follow the instructions to 
retrieve an Activation

License Code that will activate your product.



I'm connected to the Internet.

www.freedomscientific.com

loads.

The 20 digit number came up from the activation disk.

I have not knowingly canceled registration.
My remaining activation count just now from


www.FSActivate.com

is 1.  When I requested more last weekend, the form wanted my e-mail 
address, but I never heard from FS that they've approved or rejected 
the request.


I think I'll have to contact FS on Monday, but does anybody have any 
ideas in the mean time?  I don't think I Can remember the last I ran 
JAWS 9.  I can uninstall it, but I'm afraid JAWS 10 will decide it 
needs to be activated.


Thanks,

Margaret


- Original Message -
From: raymond lombardi ray...@gmail.com
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2011 8:42 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 10 Not Talking on Boot Up




I would say run the version of jaws that wants to be activated and look to
see if the automatically start jaws box is checked and if it is uncheck it.



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Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 10 Not Talking on Boot Up

2011-07-31 Thread Margaret Thomas
Doris,

Before my current round of trouble started about a week and a half ago, JAWS 9 
and 10 were installed.  My SMA went to JAWS 12.  JAWS 11 was on the machine, 
but not installed.

About a week and a half ago I lost speech , on the XP Home and it re-booted 
itself with a this computer has recovered from a serious error message and it 
said it was the blue screen error.  I couldn't get any version of JAWS to talk 
at all and computer literate sighted assistance couldn't get it talking with 
the mouse.  We did a remote session with my tech and he couldn't get it talking 
either.  When he heard about the blue screen error message, he said that it had 
happened to a lot of local computers lately due to frequent lightning strikes 
in the area.  He concluded that the sound card needed to be replaced and came 
over the next day and put in a replacement sound card.  He installed JAWS 12 
from the CD while he was here.

Part of the problem is that when I unload JAWS 10 to load J9 to go into basics 
or whatever they called it then to tell J9 not to load on startup, before I can 
press JAWS key-J, JAWS almost immediately says Activate button and wants to be 
activated.

Currently, there are icons on My Desktop for JAWS, 9, 10, and 122.  J11 has not 
been installed.

It's been a long week and any more suggestions would be extremely appreciated.

Margaret



 
- Original Message - 
From: Doris and Chris chipmu...@gmx.net
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2011 6:44 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 10 Not Talking on Boot Up


Dear Miss Margaret,

You should not have to activate your  jaws 9.0 in order to turn off 
the run jaws first option in it.

when it comes up after boot up and asks to be activated, have it run 
in 40-minute mode instead. This is plenty of time to go into its 
basic options and to uncheck the run first jaws (or run jaws at 
windows startup or whatever it is called these days.

when you have unchecked the option in jaws 9, tab to the OK tutton, 
enter on it. then close out jaws 9 and bring up jaws 10 or whatever 
version you want to have coming up when you start your computer. go 
into its  options and and check the checkbox to have it start 
automatically. This should fix the problem.

I can only guess to the reason why your jaws 9 wants to be activated 
when your 10 is working fine. Did you by any chance get a new jaws 
license in between so that  the newer jaws maybe has a diferent 
serial number? You cold check the serial number  - not the long 
activation code) when you bring up the different versions to fix the 
automatic startup. This is just a wild guess, though.

good luck and keep us posted!

Cheers,

Doris




At 06:19 AM 7/31/2011, you wrote:
Raymond and All,

Activating 9, which was the one that wanted to be 
activated  failed.  I got an error message:

Client Activator
Error Code: 52500
You have received this message due to one of the following possibilities:
- You are not connected to the Internet.  Check your connection and 
try again.
- Your 20-digit Authorization number is typed incorrectly.  Check 
for spaces or incorrect characters and try again.
- The Freedom Scientific server may be experiencing temporary 
difficulties.  Try again later.
- You have canceled registration.
If you continue to experience this problem, point your Internet 
browser to www.FSActivate.com and follow the instructions to 
retrieve an Activation
License Code that will activate your product.



I'm connected to the Internet.

www.freedomscientific.com

loads.

The 20 digit number came up from the activation disk.

I have not knowingly canceled registration.
My remaining activation count just now from


www.FSActivate.com

is 1.  When I requested more last weekend, the form wanted my e-mail 
address, but I never heard from FS that they've approved or rejected 
the request.

I think I'll have to contact FS on Monday, but does anybody have any 
ideas in the mean time?  I don't think I Can remember the last I ran 
JAWS 9.  I can uninstall it, but I'm afraid JAWS 10 will decide it 
needs to be activated.

Thanks,

Margaret


- Original Message -
From: raymond lombardi ray...@gmail.com
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2011 8:42 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 10 Not Talking on Boot Up




I would say run the version of jaws that wants to be activated and look to
see if the automatically start jaws box is checked and if it is uncheck it.



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http://www.jaws-users.com/help/

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http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 10 Not Talking on Boot Up

2011-07-31 Thread raymond lombardi




You will get an email from them tomorrow or tuesday. it takes two or three 
days.




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Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 10 Not Talking on Boot Up

2011-07-31 Thread raymond lombardi
   

   
Yes, you're right about that one, you said the same thing I told her.



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Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 10 Not Talking on Boot Up

2011-07-31 Thread Doris and Chris

The new soundcard would be the reason your older jaws want to be activated.

for a fix until you can get your activation problem sorted out next 
week, you can copy the shortcut from your desktop for the version of 
jaws you want to run  - and that is activated - into your startup 
folder. This will give you speech automatically once your desktop is 
loaded. It is not quite the same as loading jaws as a service but 
should do the trick unless you need to have jaws speak at the logon screen.


jaws is way too picky about hardware changes with its activation. You 
might want to look into getting a hardware dongle to avoid such 
problmes - or see if the free nvda isn't sufficientfor what you need 
to do on the computer. g


hth

Doris



At 08:55 AM 7/31/2011, you wrote:

Doris,

Before my current round of trouble started about a week and a half 
ago, JAWS 9 and 10 were installed.  My SMA went to JAWS 12.  JAWS 11 
was on the machine, but not installed.


About a week and a half ago I lost speech , on the XP Home and it 
re-booted itself with a this computer has recovered from a serious 
error message and it said it was the blue screen error.  I couldn't 
get any version of JAWS to talk at all and computer literate sighted 
assistance couldn't get it talking with the mouse.  We did a remote 
session with my tech and he couldn't get it talking either.  When he 
heard about the blue screen error message, he said that it had 
happened to a lot of local computers lately due to frequent 
lightning strikes in the area.  He concluded that the sound card 
needed to be replaced and came over the next day and put in a 
replacement sound card.  He installed JAWS 12 from the CD while he was here.


Part of the problem is that when I unload JAWS 10 to load J9 to go 
into basics or whatever they called it then to tell J9 not to load 
on startup, before I can press JAWS key-J, JAWS almost immediately 
says Activate button and wants to be activated.


Currently, there are icons on My Desktop for JAWS, 9, 10, and 
122.  J11 has not been installed.


It's been a long week and any more suggestions would be extremely appreciated.

Margaret




- Original Message -
From: Doris and Chris chipmu...@gmx.net
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2011 6:44 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 10 Not Talking on Boot Up


Dear Miss Margaret,

You should not have to activate your  jaws 9.0 in order to turn off
the run jaws first option in it.

when it comes up after boot up and asks to be activated, have it run
in 40-minute mode instead. This is plenty of time to go into its
basic options and to uncheck the run first jaws (or run jaws at
windows startup or whatever it is called these days.

when you have unchecked the option in jaws 9, tab to the OK tutton,
enter on it. then close out jaws 9 and bring up jaws 10 or whatever
version you want to have coming up when you start your computer. go
into its  options and and check the checkbox to have it start
automatically. This should fix the problem.

I can only guess to the reason why your jaws 9 wants to be activated
when your 10 is working fine. Did you by any chance get a new jaws
license in between so that  the newer jaws maybe has a diferent
serial number? You cold check the serial number  - not the long
activation code) when you bring up the different versions to fix the
automatic startup. This is just a wild guess, though.

good luck and keep us posted!

Cheers,

Doris




At 06:19 AM 7/31/2011, you wrote:
Raymond and All,

Activating 9, which was the one that wanted to be
activated  failed.  I got an error message:

Client Activator
Error Code: 52500
You have received this message due to one of the following possibilities:
- You are not connected to the Internet.  Check your connection and
try again.
- Your 20-digit Authorization number is typed incorrectly.  Check
for spaces or incorrect characters and try again.
- The Freedom Scientific server may be experiencing temporary
difficulties.  Try again later.
- You have canceled registration.
If you continue to experience this problem, point your Internet
browser to www.FSActivate.com and follow the instructions to
retrieve an Activation
License Code that will activate your product.



I'm connected to the Internet.

www.freedomscientific.com

loads.

The 20 digit number came up from the activation disk.

I have not knowingly canceled registration.
My remaining activation count just now from


www.FSActivate.com

is 1.  When I requested more last weekend, the form wanted my e-mail
address, but I never heard from FS that they've approved or rejected
the request.

I think I'll have to contact FS on Monday, but does anybody have any
ideas in the mean time?  I don't think I Can remember the last I ran
JAWS 9.  I can uninstall it, but I'm afraid JAWS 10 will decide it
needs to be activated.

Thanks,

Margaret


- Original Message -
From: raymond lombardi ray...@gmail.com
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com

Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 10 Not Talking on Boot Up

2011-07-31 Thread Margaret Thomas
If you are referring to my request to have my activation count re-set, I 
requested it a week ago and never heard.  I don't know if the request got lost 
in the shuffle.  As of earlier this morning, my count is 1, so I don't 
understand why J9 wants to be activated since it has been on My Desktop for a 
couple years.  My memory is that I reluctantly installed JAWS 10 and was 
happily using J9 in normal mode.

I apologize if you were referring to something else.

Margaret

- Original Message - 
From: raymond lombardi ray...@gmail.com
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2011 8:32 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 10 Not Talking on Boot Up





You will get an email from them tomorrow or tuesday. it takes two or three 
days.
 


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 10 Not Talking on Boot Up

2011-07-31 Thread Mike Barbara In Arcadia
Hi Margaret,

A friend of ours had this same problem with Jaws9.  The fix for this 
problem, at least this is what we were  told by FS tech support, was to run 
Jaws9 as a service but, in order to do this, Jaws9 has to be the Jaws 
version that starts when the computer / Windows starts.  When you installed 
/ authorized Jaws12, that should have authorized Jaws12  all earlier Jaws 
versions that are installed on the computer.  When you ask to have your 
activation keys renewed, they usually only give you 1 activation key now, 
where in the past they used to give you your limit of all 3.  If I am 
incorrect or have misstated anything here, someone please jump in  correct 
me.  Hope this helps. Take care.
Mike
P.S. You should probably call FS tech support to talk to them about this 
Jaws9 problem, just in case something has changed since the time I talked to 
them about our friends' problem with the program.

  - Original Message - 
  From: Margaret Thomas
  To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
  Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2011 6:43 AM
  Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 10 Not Talking on Boot Up


  If you are referring to my request to have my activation count re-set, I 
requested it a week ago and never heard.  I don't know if the request got 
lost in the shuffle.  As of earlier this morning, my count is 1, so I don't 
understand why J9 wants to be activated since it has been on My Desktop for 
a couple years.  My memory is that I reluctantly installed JAWS 10 and was 
happily using J9 in normal mode.

  I apologize if you were referring to something else.

  Margaret

  - Original Message - 
  From: raymond lombardi ray...@gmail.com
  To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
  Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2011 8:32 AM
  Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 10 Not Talking on Boot Up





  You will get an email from them tomorrow or tuesday. it takes two or three
  days.



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Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 10 Not Talking on Boot Up

2011-07-31 Thread raymond lombardi

Yes, I was refering to jaws 9.
   







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[JAWS-Users] Jaws 10 Not Talking on Boot Up

2011-07-30 Thread Margaret Thomas
Hi All,

I've had a problem for at least a week now with my XP Home with SP 3 and JAWS 
10 not talking on boot up.  JAWS 9 and 12 are also installed.  I think that 
something happened somehow and the box to have JAWS 10 load automatically 
refuses to stay checked since I know I've checked it at least twice and the 
check mark won't stay put.  I've clicked okay when I'm finished.  Another 
thought I had was that maybe 2 versions both were checked to load automatically 
and I've tried to look at all three to make sure only one version is set to 
automatically load.  The first time I unloaded 10 and clicked on 9 on My 
Desktop I got a message to begin activation.  I've had a licensed copy of 9 for 
years and all my copies of JAWS since 3.x have been licensed.  I didn't 
understand what was happening, but inserted my activation CD for Jaws 8 and it 
said activation was successful.  I had a sighted person here this morning to 
let me know if anything wanted to be upgraded and the message was preventing 
JAWS from starting.  He updated Adobe Flash Player and we got the automatically 
load JAWS 10 box checked.  I went to check what the status for 9 was and got 
the same message about activation being required.  He had to leave soon and I 
figured that going through the activation process again was an exercise in 
futility and that it was time to ask for help.

My tech installed JAWS 12 from the CD when he was replacing the sound card 
after a blue screen error and he wasn't able to get it back via a remote 
session and he'd reached the conclusion that the sound card was kaput I updated 
12 to the latest version.  I've unchecked automatically start 12 several times 
and I swear it changes back and unchecks 10.  Since the problem didn't start 
until JAWS 12 was installed, I thought I'd uninstall it and maybe 9 as well 
since it seems to have had a nervous breakdown.  Does it matter if JAWS 9 or 12 
is uninstalled first?  Does anyone have any idea why 9 keeps wanting to be 
activated?  I had one activation remaining after the replacement sound card was 
installed and requested my full limit on the FS activation page.

Any help straightening out this mess would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks in advance,

Margaret

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 10 Not Talking on Boot Up

2011-07-30 Thread Alan Robbins
Do any of the versions speak?

Al

-Original Message-
From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]On Behalf Of
Margaret
Thomas
Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2011 10:26 AM
To: jaws-users
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 10 Not Talking on Boot Up


Hi All,

I've had a problem for at least a week now with my XP Home
with SP 3 and JAWS 10 not talking on boot up.  JAWS 9 and 12
are also installed.  I think that something happened somehow
and the box to have JAWS 10 load automatically refuses to
stay checked since I know I've checked it at least twice and
the check mark won't stay put.  I've clicked okay when I'm
finished.  Another thought I had was that maybe 2 versions
both were checked to load automatically and I've tried to
look at all three to make sure only one version is set to
automatically load.  The first time I unloaded 10 and
clicked on 9 on My Desktop I got a message to begin
activation.  I've had a licensed copy of 9 for years and all
my copies of JAWS since 3.x have been licensed.  I didn't
understand what was happening, but inserted my activation CD
for Jaws 8 and it said activation was successful.  I had a
sighted person here this morning to let me know if anything
wanted to be upgraded and the message was preventing JAWS
from starting.  He updated Adobe Flash Player and we got the
automatically load JAWS 10 box checked.  I went to check
what the status for 9 was and got the same message about
activation being required.  He had to leave soon and I
figured that going through the activation process again was
an exercise in futility and that it was time to ask for
help.

My tech installed JAWS 12 from the CD when he was replacing
the sound card after a blue screen error and he wasn't able
to get it back via a remote session and he'd reached the
conclusion that the sound card was kaput I updated 12 to the
latest version.  I've unchecked automatically start 12
several times and I swear it changes back and unchecks 10.
Since the problem didn't start until JAWS 12 was installed,
I thought I'd uninstall it and maybe 9 as well since it
seems to have had a nervous breakdown.  Does it matter if
JAWS 9 or 12 is uninstalled first?  Does anyone have any
idea why 9 keeps wanting to be activated?  I had one
activation remaining after the replacement sound card was
installed and requested my full limit on the FS activation
page.

Any help straightening out this mess would be greatly
appreciated.

Thanks in advance,

Margaret

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 10 Not Talking on Boot Up

2011-07-30 Thread Margaret Thomas
Al,

No, as of the last time I tried it, none of the versions speak before or right 
after boot up.  I get the Windows start up sound, which isn't the one I had set 
and no speech.  I've been able to get Jaws talking by use of the JAWS short cut 
key.  I double checked after my original post and the box for JAWS 10 to start 
automatically is checked and the one for JAWS 12 to start automatically is 
unchecked.  I didn't try to see what JAWS 9 is set for due to the fact that 
that it keeps wanting to be activated when I unload one of the other versions 
and load it and I already performed the procedure the other day and it still 
starts in 40 minute mode.  I can try it again if anyone thinks it will help.

Margaret


- Original Message - 
From: Alan Robbins arobb...@nycap.rr.com
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2011 12:16 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 10 Not Talking on Boot Up


Do any of the versions speak?

Al

-Original Message-
From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]On Behalf Of
Margaret
Thomas
Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2011 10:26 AM
To: jaws-users
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 10 Not Talking on Boot Up


Hi All,

I've had a problem for at least a week now with my XP Home
with SP 3 and JAWS 10 not talking on boot up.  JAWS 9 and 12
are also installed.  I think that something happened somehow
and the box to have JAWS 10 load automatically refuses to
stay checked since I know I've checked it at least twice and
the check mark won't stay put.  I've clicked okay when I'm
finished.  Another thought I had was that maybe 2 versions
both were checked to load automatically and I've tried to
look at all three to make sure only one version is set to
automatically load.  The first time I unloaded 10 and
clicked on 9 on My Desktop I got a message to begin
activation.  I've had a licensed copy of 9 for years and all
my copies of JAWS since 3.x have been licensed.  I didn't
understand what was happening, but inserted my activation CD
for Jaws 8 and it said activation was successful.  I had a
sighted person here this morning to let me know if anything
wanted to be upgraded and the message was preventing JAWS
from starting.  He updated Adobe Flash Player and we got the
automatically load JAWS 10 box checked.  I went to check
what the status for 9 was and got the same message about
activation being required.  He had to leave soon and I
figured that going through the activation process again was
an exercise in futility and that it was time to ask for
help.

My tech installed JAWS 12 from the CD when he was replacing
the sound card after a blue screen error and he wasn't able
to get it back via a remote session and he'd reached the
conclusion that the sound card was kaput I updated 12 to the
latest version.  I've unchecked automatically start 12
several times and I swear it changes back and unchecks 10.
Since the problem didn't start until JAWS 12 was installed,
I thought I'd uninstall it and maybe 9 as well since it
seems to have had a nervous breakdown.  Does it matter if
JAWS 9 or 12 is uninstalled first?  Does anyone have any
idea why 9 keeps wanting to be activated?  I had one
activation remaining after the replacement sound card was
installed and requested my full limit on the FS activation
page.

Any help straightening out this mess would be greatly
appreciated.

Thanks in advance,

Margaret


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 10 Not Talking on Boot Up

2011-07-30 Thread raymond lombardi



I would say run the version of jaws that wants to be activated and look to 
see if the automatically start jaws box is checked and if it is uncheck it.




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