Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 18 and internet explorer 11 problem

[Dave]

IMHO I go back to JAWS 16 whenever I remember to do so. I hate the poor 
performance when using IE 11.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


- Original Message - 
From: "Gene Warner" <genewarn...@gmail.com>
To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Friday, December 09, 2016 06:10
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 18 and internet explorer 11 problem


Hi

I too have JAWS 15 and later, as I lost my vision to glaucoma in 2012
and was declared legally blind in 2013, soon after that I bought JAWS 15
and have maintained an SMA ever since.

After reading your message about JAWS 15 and 16 versus JAWS 17 and 18, I
realized the problems I've been struggling with between JAWS and IE11
that Freedom Scientific doesn't appear to know how to solve, started
with JAWS 17. Since I can't think of any new features introduced in 17
and 18 that are must haves, I wonder if I might be better off just going
back to JAWS 16.

Any thoughts?

Cheers!



On 12/8/2016 11:14 PM, Dave wrote:
> But I disagree with you. I have JAWS 15, 16, 17, and 18. IE11 works just
> fine with JAWS 15 and 16 (no delay in the find function), and JAWS 17 and 
> 18
> are the bad boys. So it's definitely something with the JAWS architecture
> from 17 onward. They made a significant change to JAWS in that version, as
> we all recall, since we were no longer able to merge from JAWS 16 to JAWS 
> 17
> due to that new paradigm. So it's definitely something they did to break
> JAWS 17, and continue to not fix, in JAWS 18.
>
> Dave
> Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Kimsan Song" <kimsans...@outlook.com>
> To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
> Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2016 13:04
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 18 and internet explorer 11 problem
>
>
> I have yet to install 18. I made my reply to simply state it's happening
> here with jaws 17, so I don't think it's a jaws issue.
>
> I think IE 11 just sucks and is the problem.
> Let's all convert to chrome.
> Respectfully,
>
> Kimsan Song
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
> Behalf Of Dave
> Sent: Thursday, December 8, 2016 12:23 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 18 and internet explorer 11 problem
>
> Kimsan,
>
> ...and does it not happen with JAWS 18?
>
> Dave
> Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer
>
>
> ----- Original Message -
> From: "Kimsan Song" <kimsans...@outlook.com>
> To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
> Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2016 09:15
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 18 and internet explorer 11 problem
>
>
> That happens with me using jaws 17.
>
> Respectfully,
>
> Kimsan Song
>
> -Original Message-----
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
> Behalf Of Dave
> Sent: Thursday, December 8, 2016 3:21 AM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 18 and internet explorer 11 problem
>
> Yes. It is actually not crashing, but it is closing down and reloading. I
> also notice it is often very slow when I execute a JAWS find.
>
> Dave
> Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Fanus" <buys.fa...@gmail.com>
> To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
> Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2016 02:49
> Subject: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 18 and internet explorer 11 problem
>
>
> Hello list
> Since the latest upgrade of jaws 18 it crashes 9 out of ten times when I
> open ie11 on my windows10 pc. Then I must wait until it restarts. I find 
> it
> to be less responsive in firefox. Do other listers also encounter this?
> Regards
> Fanus
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 18 and internet explorer 11 problem

[Kurt Miller]

I whole hartedly agree with you Dave.

After blindness and a double organ transplant, you can say I am as resilient
as rubber, anything you throw at me I am going to bounce back from!

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Dave
Sent: Thursday, December 8, 2016 11:14 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 18 and internet explorer 11 problem

But I disagree with you. I have JAWS 15, 16, 17, and 18. IE11 works just
fine with JAWS 15 and 16 (no delay in the find function), and JAWS 17 and 18
are the bad boys. So it's definitely something with the JAWS architecture
from 17 onward. They made a significant change to JAWS in that version, as
we all recall, since we were no longer able to merge from JAWS 16 to JAWS 17
due to that new paradigm. So it's definitely something they did to break
JAWS 17, and continue to not fix, in JAWS 18.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


- Original Message -
From: "Kimsan Song" <kimsans...@outlook.com>
To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2016 13:04
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 18 and internet explorer 11 problem


I have yet to install 18. I made my reply to simply state it's happening 
here with jaws 17, so I don't think it's a jaws issue.

I think IE 11 just sucks and is the problem.
Let's all convert to chrome.
Respectfully,

Kimsan Song

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
Behalf Of Dave
Sent: Thursday, December 8, 2016 12:23 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 18 and internet explorer 11 problem

Kimsan,

...and does it not happen with JAWS 18?

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


- Original Message - 
From: "Kimsan Song" <kimsans...@outlook.com>
To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2016 09:15
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 18 and internet explorer 11 problem


That happens with me using jaws 17.

Respectfully,

Kimsan Song

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Dave
Sent: Thursday, December 8, 2016 3:21 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 18 and internet explorer 11 problem

Yes. It is actually not crashing, but it is closing down and reloading. I
also notice it is often very slow when I execute a JAWS find.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


- Original Message -
From: "Fanus" <buys.fa...@gmail.com>
To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2016 02:49
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 18 and internet explorer 11 problem


Hello list
Since the latest upgrade of jaws 18 it crashes 9 out of ten times when I
open ie11 on my windows10 pc. Then I must wait until it restarts. I find it
to be less responsive in firefox. Do other listers also encounter this?
Regards
Fanus
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 18 and internet explorer 11 problem

[Gene Warner]

Hi

I too have JAWS 15 and later, as I lost my vision to glaucoma in 2012 
and was declared legally blind in 2013, soon after that I bought JAWS 15 
and have maintained an SMA ever since.


After reading your message about JAWS 15 and 16 versus JAWS 17 and 18, I 
realized the problems I've been struggling with between JAWS and IE11 
that Freedom Scientific doesn't appear to know how to solve, started 
with JAWS 17. Since I can't think of any new features introduced in 17 
and 18 that are must haves, I wonder if I might be better off just going 
back to JAWS 16.


Any thoughts?

Cheers!



On 12/8/2016 11:14 PM, Dave wrote:

But I disagree with you. I have JAWS 15, 16, 17, and 18. IE11 works just
fine with JAWS 15 and 16 (no delay in the find function), and JAWS 17 and 18
are the bad boys. So it's definitely something with the JAWS architecture
from 17 onward. They made a significant change to JAWS in that version, as
we all recall, since we were no longer able to merge from JAWS 16 to JAWS 17
due to that new paradigm. So it's definitely something they did to break
JAWS 17, and continue to not fix, in JAWS 18.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


- Original Message -
From: "Kimsan Song" <kimsans...@outlook.com>
To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2016 13:04
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 18 and internet explorer 11 problem


I have yet to install 18. I made my reply to simply state it's happening
here with jaws 17, so I don't think it's a jaws issue.

I think IE 11 just sucks and is the problem.
Let's all convert to chrome.
Respectfully,

Kimsan Song

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Dave
Sent: Thursday, December 8, 2016 12:23 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 18 and internet explorer 11 problem

Kimsan,

...and does it not happen with JAWS 18?

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


- Original Message -
From: "Kimsan Song" <kimsans...@outlook.com>
To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2016 09:15
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 18 and internet explorer 11 problem


That happens with me using jaws 17.

Respectfully,

Kimsan Song

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Dave
Sent: Thursday, December 8, 2016 3:21 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 18 and internet explorer 11 problem

Yes. It is actually not crashing, but it is closing down and reloading. I
also notice it is often very slow when I execute a JAWS find.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


- Original Message -
From: "Fanus" <buys.fa...@gmail.com>
To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2016 02:49
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 18 and internet explorer 11 problem


Hello list
Since the latest upgrade of jaws 18 it crashes 9 out of ten times when I
open ie11 on my windows10 pc. Then I must wait until it restarts. I find it
to be less responsive in firefox. Do other listers also encounter this?
Regards
Fanus
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 18 and internet explorer 11 problem

[Andy Baracco]

I am using Win 7, but have noticed some sluggishness on web pages using JAWS 
18.


Andy


-Original Message- 
From: Dave

Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2016 8:14 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 18 and internet explorer 11 problem

But I disagree with you. I have JAWS 15, 16, 17, and 18. IE11 works just
fine with JAWS 15 and 16 (no delay in the find function), and JAWS 17 and 18
are the bad boys. So it's definitely something with the JAWS architecture
from 17 onward. They made a significant change to JAWS in that version, as
we all recall, since we were no longer able to merge from JAWS 16 to JAWS 17
due to that new paradigm. So it's definitely something they did to break
JAWS 17, and continue to not fix, in JAWS 18.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


- Original Message - 
From: "Kimsan Song" <kimsans...@outlook.com>

To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2016 13:04
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 18 and internet explorer 11 problem


I have yet to install 18. I made my reply to simply state it's happening
here with jaws 17, so I don't think it's a jaws issue.

I think IE 11 just sucks and is the problem.
Let's all convert to chrome.
Respectfully,

Kimsan Song

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Dave
Sent: Thursday, December 8, 2016 12:23 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 18 and internet explorer 11 problem

Kimsan,

...and does it not happen with JAWS 18?

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


- Original Message - 
From: "Kimsan Song" <kimsans...@outlook.com>

To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2016 09:15
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 18 and internet explorer 11 problem


That happens with me using jaws 17.

Respectfully,

Kimsan Song

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Dave
Sent: Thursday, December 8, 2016 3:21 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 18 and internet explorer 11 problem

Yes. It is actually not crashing, but it is closing down and reloading. I
also notice it is often very slow when I execute a JAWS find.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


- Original Message -
From: "Fanus" <buys.fa...@gmail.com>
To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2016 02:49
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 18 and internet explorer 11 problem


Hello list
Since the latest upgrade of jaws 18 it crashes 9 out of ten times when I
open ie11 on my windows10 pc. Then I must wait until it restarts. I find it
to be less responsive in firefox. Do other listers also encounter this?
Regards
Fanus
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 18 and internet explorer 11 problem

[Dave]

But I disagree with you. I have JAWS 15, 16, 17, and 18. IE11 works just 
fine with JAWS 15 and 16 (no delay in the find function), and JAWS 17 and 18 
are the bad boys. So it's definitely something with the JAWS architecture 
from 17 onward. They made a significant change to JAWS in that version, as 
we all recall, since we were no longer able to merge from JAWS 16 to JAWS 17 
due to that new paradigm. So it's definitely something they did to break 
JAWS 17, and continue to not fix, in JAWS 18.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


- Original Message - 
From: "Kimsan Song" <kimsans...@outlook.com>
To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2016 13:04
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 18 and internet explorer 11 problem


I have yet to install 18. I made my reply to simply state it's happening 
here with jaws 17, so I don't think it's a jaws issue.

I think IE 11 just sucks and is the problem.
Let's all convert to chrome.
Respectfully,

Kimsan Song

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
Behalf Of Dave
Sent: Thursday, December 8, 2016 12:23 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 18 and internet explorer 11 problem

Kimsan,

...and does it not happen with JAWS 18?

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


- Original Message - 
From: "Kimsan Song" <kimsans...@outlook.com>
To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2016 09:15
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 18 and internet explorer 11 problem


That happens with me using jaws 17.

Respectfully,

Kimsan Song

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Dave
Sent: Thursday, December 8, 2016 3:21 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 18 and internet explorer 11 problem

Yes. It is actually not crashing, but it is closing down and reloading. I
also notice it is often very slow when I execute a JAWS find.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


- Original Message -
From: "Fanus" <buys.fa...@gmail.com>
To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2016 02:49
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 18 and internet explorer 11 problem


Hello list
Since the latest upgrade of jaws 18 it crashes 9 out of ten times when I
open ie11 on my windows10 pc. Then I must wait until it restarts. I find it
to be less responsive in firefox. Do other listers also encounter this?
Regards
Fanus
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 18 and internet explorer 11 problem

[Kimsan Song]

I have yet to install 18. I made my reply to simply state it's happening here 
with jaws 17, so I don't think it's a jaws issue.

I think IE 11 just sucks and is the problem.
Let's all convert to chrome.
Respectfully,

Kimsan Song

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Dave
Sent: Thursday, December 8, 2016 12:23 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 18 and internet explorer 11 problem

Kimsan,

...and does it not happen with JAWS 18?

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


- Original Message - 
From: "Kimsan Song" <kimsans...@outlook.com>
To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2016 09:15
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 18 and internet explorer 11 problem


That happens with me using jaws 17.

Respectfully,

Kimsan Song

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
Behalf Of Dave
Sent: Thursday, December 8, 2016 3:21 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 18 and internet explorer 11 problem

Yes. It is actually not crashing, but it is closing down and reloading. I 
also notice it is often very slow when I execute a JAWS find.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


- Original Message -
From: "Fanus" <buys.fa...@gmail.com>
To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2016 02:49
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 18 and internet explorer 11 problem


Hello list
Since the latest upgrade of jaws 18 it crashes 9 out of ten times when I
open ie11 on my windows10 pc. Then I must wait until it restarts. I find it
to be less responsive in firefox. Do other listers also encounter this?
Regards
Fanus
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 18 and internet explorer 11 problem

[Dave]

Kimsan,

...and does it not happen with JAWS 18?

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


- Original Message - 
From: "Kimsan Song" <kimsans...@outlook.com>
To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2016 09:15
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 18 and internet explorer 11 problem


That happens with me using jaws 17.

Respectfully,

Kimsan Song

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
Behalf Of Dave
Sent: Thursday, December 8, 2016 3:21 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 18 and internet explorer 11 problem

Yes. It is actually not crashing, but it is closing down and reloading. I 
also notice it is often very slow when I execute a JAWS find.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


- Original Message -
From: "Fanus" <buys.fa...@gmail.com>
To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2016 02:49
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 18 and internet explorer 11 problem


Hello list
Since the latest upgrade of jaws 18 it crashes 9 out of ten times when I
open ie11 on my windows10 pc. Then I must wait until it restarts. I find it
to be less responsive in firefox. Do other listers also encounter this?
Regards
Fanus
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 18 and internet explorer 11 problem

[Gene Warner]

Hi all

It is for that reason that I don't rely on IE to save all my passwords. 
Instead I use RoboForm. Some parts of it are inaccessible, like the 
password generator controls, but the essential functions are. I'd like 
to find a password manager and form filler like RoboForm that is fully 
accessible or convince Siber Systems to make all of RoboForm accessible.


Cheers!




On 12/8/2016 1:24 PM, Mr. Ed wrote:

Hi Kurt,
It will delete user names and passwords. I know by not checking this box it
did not fix my IE. But by checking the box it cleaned up IE and it runs nice
and smooth. I have fix my IE over the years four or five times and when I
check the personal box it cleaned up my IE and it ran real smooth with no
crashes.
That has been my experience.
Mr. Ed

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Kurt Miller
Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2016 11:09 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 18 and internet explorer 11 problem

Mr. Ed,
You say that this will not delete your favorites, but will it delete any
saved user names or passwords for those favorites?
Kurt
After blindness and a double organ transplant, you can say I am as resilient
as rubber, anything you throw at me I am going to bounce back from!


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Behalf Of Mr. Ed
Sent: Thursday, December 8, 2016 12:03 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 18 and internet explorer 11 problem

Hi Fanus,
I would recommend re setting IE. Here are the steps to do that.
1. Open IE
2. Press alt + T for tools menu.
3. Press up arrow once and you should be on options. Press the enter key.
4. Press shift + Tab and you should hear General.
5. Press the arrow key until you hear advance.
6. Tab until you hear reset button.
7. Press enter on the reset button.
8. A dialog box will come up. Press tab once and you will hear something
about checking this box to delete   personal information. Press
the spacebar here   to check this check box.
9. Tab twice to the reset button and press the spacebar.
Wait a few minutes then close IE and reopen it. Now it should work like new.

Note checking the box about removing personal information will not remove
your favorites in IE.


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Fanus
Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2016 4:49 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 18 and internet explorer 11 problem

Hello list
Since the latest upgrade of jaws 18 it crashes 9 out of ten times when I
open ie11 on my windows10 pc. Then I must wait until it restarts. I find it
to be less responsive in firefox. Do other listers also encounter this?
Regards
Fanus
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 18 and internet explorer 11 problem

[Kurt Miller]

Thanks, I'm not really having troubles now, but just wondering for the
future in case I need to do this.
Kurt

After blindness and a double organ transplant, you can say I am as resilient
as rubber, anything you throw at me I am going to bounce back from!


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mr. Ed
Sent: Thursday, December 8, 2016 1:25 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 18 and internet explorer 11 problem

Hi Kurt,
It will delete user names and passwords. I know by not checking this box it
did not fix my IE. But by checking the box it cleaned up IE and it runs nice
and smooth. I have fix my IE over the years four or five times and when I
check the personal box it cleaned up my IE and it ran real smooth with no
crashes.
That has been my experience. 
Mr. Ed 

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Kurt Miller
Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2016 11:09 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 18 and internet explorer 11 problem

Mr. Ed,
You say that this will not delete your favorites, but will it delete any
saved user names or passwords for those favorites?
Kurt
After blindness and a double organ transplant, you can say I am as resilient
as rubber, anything you throw at me I am going to bounce back from!


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mr. Ed
Sent: Thursday, December 8, 2016 12:03 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 18 and internet explorer 11 problem

Hi Fanus,
I would recommend re setting IE. Here are the steps to do that.
1. Open IE
2. Press alt + T for tools menu.
3. Press up arrow once and you should be on options. Press the enter key.
4. Press shift + Tab and you should hear General. 
5. Press the arrow key until you hear advance.
6. Tab until you hear reset button.
7. Press enter on the reset button.
8. A dialog box will come up. Press tab once and you will hear something
about checking this box to delete   personal information. Press
the spacebar here   to check this check box.
9. Tab twice to the reset button and press the spacebar.
Wait a few minutes then close IE and reopen it. Now it should work like new.

Note checking the box about removing personal information will not remove
your favorites in IE. 


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Fanus
Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2016 4:49 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 18 and internet explorer 11 problem

Hello list
Since the latest upgrade of jaws 18 it crashes 9 out of ten times when I
open ie11 on my windows10 pc. Then I must wait until it restarts. I find it
to be less responsive in firefox. Do other listers also encounter this?
Regards
Fanus
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 18 and internet explorer 11 problem

[Mr. Ed]

Hi Kurt,
It will delete user names and passwords. I know by not checking this box it
did not fix my IE. But by checking the box it cleaned up IE and it runs nice
and smooth. I have fix my IE over the years four or five times and when I
check the personal box it cleaned up my IE and it ran real smooth with no
crashes.
That has been my experience. 
Mr. Ed 

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Kurt Miller
Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2016 11:09 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 18 and internet explorer 11 problem

Mr. Ed,
You say that this will not delete your favorites, but will it delete any
saved user names or passwords for those favorites?
Kurt
After blindness and a double organ transplant, you can say I am as resilient
as rubber, anything you throw at me I am going to bounce back from!


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mr. Ed
Sent: Thursday, December 8, 2016 12:03 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 18 and internet explorer 11 problem

Hi Fanus,
I would recommend re setting IE. Here are the steps to do that.
1. Open IE
2. Press alt + T for tools menu.
3. Press up arrow once and you should be on options. Press the enter key.
4. Press shift + Tab and you should hear General. 
5. Press the arrow key until you hear advance.
6. Tab until you hear reset button.
7. Press enter on the reset button.
8. A dialog box will come up. Press tab once and you will hear something
about checking this box to delete   personal information. Press
the spacebar here   to check this check box.
9. Tab twice to the reset button and press the spacebar.
Wait a few minutes then close IE and reopen it. Now it should work like new.

Note checking the box about removing personal information will not remove
your favorites in IE. 


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Fanus
Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2016 4:49 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 18 and internet explorer 11 problem

Hello list
Since the latest upgrade of jaws 18 it crashes 9 out of ten times when I
open ie11 on my windows10 pc. Then I must wait until it restarts. I find it
to be less responsive in firefox. Do other listers also encounter this?
Regards
Fanus
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 18 and internet explorer 11 problem

[Kimsan Song]

That happens with me using jaws 17.

Respectfully,

Kimsan Song

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Dave
Sent: Thursday, December 8, 2016 3:21 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 18 and internet explorer 11 problem

Yes. It is actually not crashing, but it is closing down and reloading. I also 
notice it is often very slow when I execute a JAWS find.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


- Original Message -
From: "Fanus" <buys.fa...@gmail.com>
To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2016 02:49
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 18 and internet explorer 11 problem


Hello list
Since the latest upgrade of jaws 18 it crashes 9 out of ten times when I 
open ie11 on my windows10 pc. Then I must wait until it restarts. I find it 
to be less responsive in firefox. Do other listers also encounter this?
Regards
Fanus
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 18 and internet explorer 11 problem

[Kurt Miller]

Mr. Ed,
You say that this will not delete your favorites, but will it delete any
saved user names or passwords for those favorites?
Kurt
After blindness and a double organ transplant, you can say I am as resilient
as rubber, anything you throw at me I am going to bounce back from!


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mr. Ed
Sent: Thursday, December 8, 2016 12:03 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 18 and internet explorer 11 problem

Hi Fanus,
I would recommend re setting IE. Here are the steps to do that.
1. Open IE
2. Press alt + T for tools menu.
3. Press up arrow once and you should be on options. Press the enter key.
4. Press shift + Tab and you should hear General. 
5. Press the arrow key until you hear advance.
6. Tab until you hear reset button.
7. Press enter on the reset button.
8. A dialog box will come up. Press tab once and you will hear something
about checking this box to delete   personal information. Press
the spacebar here   to check this check box.
9. Tab twice to the reset button and press the spacebar.
Wait a few minutes then close IE and reopen it. Now it should work like new.

Note checking the box about removing personal information will not remove
your favorites in IE. 


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Fanus
Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2016 4:49 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 18 and internet explorer 11 problem

Hello list
Since the latest upgrade of jaws 18 it crashes 9 out of ten times when I
open ie11 on my windows10 pc. Then I must wait until it restarts. I find it
to be less responsive in firefox. Do other listers also encounter this?
Regards
Fanus
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 18 and internet explorer 11 problem

[Mr. Ed]

Hi Fanus,
I would recommend re setting IE. Here are the steps to do that.
1. Open IE 
2. Press alt + T for tools menu.
3. Press up arrow once and you should be on options. Press the enter key.
4. Press shift + Tab and you should hear General. 
5. Press the arrow key until you hear advance.
6. Tab until you hear reset button.
7. Press enter on the reset button.
8. A dialog box will come up. Press tab once and you will hear something
about checking this box to delete   personal information. Press
the spacebar here   to check this check box.
9. Tab twice to the reset button and press the spacebar.
Wait a few minutes then close IE and reopen it. Now it should work like new.

Note checking the box about removing personal information will not remove
your favorites in IE. 


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Fanus
Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2016 4:49 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 18 and internet explorer 11 problem

Hello list
Since the latest upgrade of jaws 18 it crashes 9 out of ten times when I
open ie11 on my windows10 pc. Then I must wait until it restarts. I find it
to be less responsive in firefox. Do other listers also encounter this?
Regards
Fanus
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 18 and internet explorer 11 problem

[Gene Warner]

Although I'm not using Windows 10, I'm using a 32 bit Windows 7 Home 
Premium, I've also noticed that the JAWS find is real slow coming up in 
IE 11, but haven't had any crashing or reloading problems.


Cheers!


On 12/8/2016 6:21 AM, Dave wrote:

Yes. It is actually not crashing, but it is closing down and reloading. I
also notice it is often very slow when I execute a JAWS find.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


- Original Message -
From: "Fanus" <buys.fa...@gmail.com>
To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2016 02:49
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 18 and internet explorer 11 problem


Hello list
Since the latest upgrade of jaws 18 it crashes 9 out of ten times when I
open ie11 on my windows10 pc. Then I must wait until it restarts. I find it
to be less responsive in firefox. Do other listers also encounter this?
Regards
Fanus
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 18 and internet explorer 11 problem

[Shai]

Hello,
I am running the latest JAWS 18 update on a Windows10 pc and I am not
having any issues with Internet Explorer11 reloading. I just installed
Firefox on here a few weeks ago with the latest version 50 update
applied and have not had issues with this browser yet. I would attempt
to delete your temporary Internet files and cookies in both browsers
to see if the issue is resolved. I would also make sure that the home
pages that you start to do not contain many ads and that you do not
have many which are opening at one time.
On 12/8/16, Fanus  wrote:
> Hello list
> Since the latest upgrade of jaws 18 it crashes 9 out of ten times when I
> open ie11 on my windows10 pc. Then I must wait until it restarts. I find it
> to be less responsive in firefox. Do other listers also encounter this?
> Regards
> Fanus
> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
>

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 18 and internet explorer 11 problem

[Humberto Rodriguez]

Yes Fanus, it seems to restart more than before.
Humberto


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Fanus
Sent: Thursday, December 8, 2016 5:49 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 18 and internet explorer 11 problem

Hello list
Since the latest upgrade of jaws 18 it crashes 9 out of ten times when I
open ie11 on my windows10 pc. Then I must wait until it restarts. I find it
to be less responsive in firefox. Do other listers also encounter this?
Regards
Fanus
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 18 and internet explorer 11 problem

[Dave]

Yes. It is actually not crashing, but it is closing down and reloading. I 
also notice it is often very slow when I execute a JAWS find.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


- Original Message - 
From: "Fanus" <buys.fa...@gmail.com>
To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2016 02:49
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 18 and internet explorer 11 problem


Hello list
Since the latest upgrade of jaws 18 it crashes 9 out of ten times when I 
open ie11 on my windows10 pc. Then I must wait until it restarts. I find it 
to be less responsive in firefox. Do other listers also encounter this?
Regards
Fanus
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[JAWS-Users] Jaws 18 and internet explorer 11 problem

[Fanus]

Hello list
Since the latest upgrade of jaws 18 it crashes 9 out of ten times when I open 
ie11 on my windows10 pc. Then I must wait until it restarts. I find it to be 
less responsive in firefox. Do other listers also encounter this?
Regards
Fanus
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