Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws in System-Tray

2011-12-06 Thread David
Hello try the following;

1, from start-menu edit box type;
Taskbar,
Now, you may need to arrow and enter on,
Taskbarstart-menu.
Note,
If you access the taskbar from the start button, through the applications
key,
And then properties, you will land on the 
Start-menu page,
So you will need to shift+tab, and then left arrow to the taskbar tab.

2. now you need to tab and enter on,
Notification area customizebutton.

3. now, shift+tab,
You will see;
Always show all icons and notifications on the taskbar
If the box is not checked,
Then check with the spacebar,
Now tab okay press enter,
And okay your way out,

Now check your system tray.

Note, if the box,
Always show all icons and notifications on the taskbar
Is not check,
You can go into,
Turn system icons on or off Link;
Now, you use the tab key,
Find the particular program you wish to have showing,
And you can choose 1 of 3 choices,
Show icons Notification Area   
Hide icon notification area,
Only show notifications,

Hope this helps.


-Original Message-
From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Trish
Sent: Monday, December 05, 2011 9:41 PM
To: Users of Jaws
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Jaws in System-Tray

Well, it seems as if jaws is playing hide and seek in the systems tray.
Sometimes it's there and other times not.
I have all the necessary box's checked for it to show there, have checked it
twice,lol.

I installed drop box today and now it's in the tray, but jaws is not, so I
guess it's one of them lil' mysteries no rhyme or reason puzzles?
It's just my sys-tray just seems not right without jaws in it. I do not like
to alt tab and bump into jaws in case someone suggest this..

I'm running the very latest of Jaws 13 on win/7 64 bit ASUS laptop.

Thanks for listening and for any help
Trish,

Remember that while money talks, CHOCOLATE ICE CREAM SINGS!
For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


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http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws in System-Tray

2011-12-06 Thread Trish
Thank you, I'll give it a whirl right after I murder windows firewall.

- Original Message - 
From: David 
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com 
Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2011 5:46 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws in System-Tray


Hello try the following;

1, from start-menu edit box type;
Taskbar,
Now, you may need to arrow and enter on,
Taskbarstart-menu.
Note,
If you access the taskbar from the start button, through the applications
key,
And then properties, you will land on the 
Start-menu page,
So you will need to shift+tab, and then left arrow to the taskbar tab.

2. now you need to tab and enter on,
Notification area customizebutton.

3. now, shift+tab,
You will see;
Always show all icons and notifications on the taskbar
If the box is not checked,
Then check with the spacebar,
Now tab okay press enter,
And okay your way out,

Now check your system tray.

Note, if the box,
Always show all icons and notifications on the taskbar
Is not check,
You can go into,
Turn system icons on or off Link;
Now, you use the tab key,
Find the particular program you wish to have showing,
And you can choose 1 of 3 choices,
Show icons Notification Area   
Hide icon notification area,
Only show notifications,

Hope this helps.


-Original Message-
From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Trish
Sent: Monday, December 05, 2011 9:41 PM
To: Users of Jaws
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Jaws in System-Tray

Well, it seems as if jaws is playing hide and seek in the systems tray.
Sometimes it's there and other times not.
I have all the necessary box's checked for it to show there, have checked it
twice,lol.

I installed drop box today and now it's in the tray, but jaws is not, so I
guess it's one of them lil' mysteries no rhyme or reason puzzles?
It's just my sys-tray just seems not right without jaws in it. I do not like
to alt tab and bump into jaws in case someone suggest this..

I'm running the very latest of Jaws 13 on win/7 64 bit ASUS laptop.

Thanks for listening and for any help
Trish,

Remember that while money talks, CHOCOLATE ICE CREAM SINGS!
For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
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http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws in System-Tray

2011-12-06 Thread David
Ummm,murder windows firewall?


-Original Message-
From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Trish
Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2011 11:35 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws in System-Tray

Thank you, I'll give it a whirl right after I murder windows firewall.

- Original Message -
From: David
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2011 5:46 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws in System-Tray


Hello try the following;

1, from start-menu edit box type;
Taskbar,
Now, you may need to arrow and enter on, Taskbarstart-menu.
Note,
If you access the taskbar from the start button, through the applications
key, And then properties, you will land on the Start-menu page, So you will
need to shift+tab, and then left arrow to the taskbar tab.

2. now you need to tab and enter on,
Notification area customizebutton.

3. now, shift+tab,
You will see;
Always show all icons and notifications on the taskbar If the box is not
checked, Then check with the spacebar, Now tab okay press enter, And okay
your way out,

Now check your system tray.

Note, if the box,
Always show all icons and notifications on the taskbar Is not check, You can
go into, Turn system icons on or off Link; Now, you use the tab key, Find
the particular program you wish to have showing, And you can choose 1 of 3
choices,
Show icons Notification Area   
Hide icon notification area,
Only show notifications,

Hope this helps.


-Original Message-
From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Trish
Sent: Monday, December 05, 2011 9:41 PM
To: Users of Jaws
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Jaws in System-Tray

Well, it seems as if jaws is playing hide and seek in the systems tray.
Sometimes it's there and other times not.
I have all the necessary box's checked for it to show there, have checked it
twice,lol.

I installed drop box today and now it's in the tray, but jaws is not, so I
guess it's one of them lil' mysteries no rhyme or reason puzzles?
It's just my sys-tray just seems not right without jaws in it. I do not like
to alt tab and bump into jaws in case someone suggest this..

I'm running the very latest of Jaws 13 on win/7 64 bit ASUS laptop.

Thanks for listening and for any help
Trish,

Remember that while money talks, CHOCOLATE ICE CREAM SINGS!
For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws in System-Tray

2011-12-06 Thread Trish
jaws is in the sys tray today,lol

Yes, that irritating windows firewall, I want to kill it!
I'm getting short on patients with it wanting confirmation on allowing 
something I want to happen.

- Original Message - 
From: David 
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com 
Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2011 11:41 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws in System-Tray


Ummm,murder windows firewall?


-Original Message-
From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Trish
Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2011 11:35 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws in System-Tray

Thank you, I'll give it a whirl right after I murder windows firewall.

- Original Message -
From: David
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2011 5:46 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws in System-Tray


Hello try the following;

1, from start-menu edit box type;
Taskbar,
Now, you may need to arrow and enter on, Taskbarstart-menu.
Note,
If you access the taskbar from the start button, through the applications
key, And then properties, you will land on the Start-menu page, So you will
need to shift+tab, and then left arrow to the taskbar tab.

2. now you need to tab and enter on,
Notification area customizebutton.

3. now, shift+tab,
You will see;
Always show all icons and notifications on the taskbar If the box is not
checked, Then check with the spacebar, Now tab okay press enter, And okay
your way out,

Now check your system tray.

Note, if the box,
Always show all icons and notifications on the taskbar Is not check, You can
go into, Turn system icons on or off Link; Now, you use the tab key, Find
the particular program you wish to have showing, And you can choose 1 of 3
choices,
Show icons Notification Area   
Hide icon notification area,
Only show notifications,

Hope this helps.


-Original Message-
From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Trish
Sent: Monday, December 05, 2011 9:41 PM
To: Users of Jaws
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Jaws in System-Tray

Well, it seems as if jaws is playing hide and seek in the systems tray.
Sometimes it's there and other times not.
I have all the necessary box's checked for it to show there, have checked it
twice,lol.

I installed drop box today and now it's in the tray, but jaws is not, so I
guess it's one of them lil' mysteries no rhyme or reason puzzles?
It's just my sys-tray just seems not right without jaws in it. I do not like
to alt tab and bump into jaws in case someone suggest this..

I'm running the very latest of Jaws 13 on win/7 64 bit ASUS laptop.

Thanks for listening and for any help
Trish,

Remember that while money talks, CHOCOLATE ICE CREAM SINGS!
For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws in System-Tray

2011-12-06 Thread Trish
yes, it is being good today, think it knows it's christmas time and wants no 
coal in it's sock,lol grins

- Original Message - 
From: Doris and Chris 
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com 
Sent: Monday, December 05, 2011 8:53 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws in System-Tray


As an xp dino, I am not sure of this but does win 7 have a setting to 
hide inactive icons in the system tray? I do not know what this would 
be called under win7 or if it even exists but under xp, vanishing 
icons might be caused by that setting, which under xp is found in the 
taskbar properties.

Just a guess! Good luck!

Doris


At 08:40 PM 12/5/2011 -0600, you wrote:
Well, it seems as if jaws is playing hide and seek in the systems tray.
Sometimes it's there and other times not.
I have all the necessary box's checked for it to show there, have 
checked it twice,lol.

I installed drop box today and now it's in the tray, but jaws is 
not, so I guess it's one of them lil' mysteries no rhyme or reason puzzles?
It's just my sys-tray just seems not right without jaws in it. I do 
not like to alt tab and bump into jaws in case someone suggest this..

I'm running the very latest of Jaws 13 on win/7 64 bit ASUS laptop.

Thanks for listening and for any help
Trish,

Remember that while money talks, CHOCOLATE ICE CREAM SINGS!
For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws in System-Tray

2011-12-06 Thread David
Hello there;
Are you sure it's the firewall?
Sounds more like the UAC user account control


-Original Message-
From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Trish
Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2011 1:12 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws in System-Tray

jaws is in the sys tray today,lol

Yes, that irritating windows firewall, I want to kill it!
I'm getting short on patients with it wanting confirmation on allowing
something I want to happen.

- Original Message -
From: David
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2011 11:41 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws in System-Tray


Ummm,murder windows firewall?


-Original Message-
From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Trish
Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2011 11:35 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws in System-Tray

Thank you, I'll give it a whirl right after I murder windows firewall.

- Original Message -
From: David
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2011 5:46 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws in System-Tray


Hello try the following;

1, from start-menu edit box type;
Taskbar,
Now, you may need to arrow and enter on, Taskbarstart-menu.
Note,
If you access the taskbar from the start button, through the applications
key, And then properties, you will land on the Start-menu page, So you will
need to shift+tab, and then left arrow to the taskbar tab.

2. now you need to tab and enter on,
Notification area customizebutton.

3. now, shift+tab,
You will see;
Always show all icons and notifications on the taskbar If the box is not
checked, Then check with the spacebar, Now tab okay press enter, And okay
your way out,

Now check your system tray.

Note, if the box,
Always show all icons and notifications on the taskbar Is not check, You can
go into, Turn system icons on or off Link; Now, you use the tab key, Find
the particular program you wish to have showing, And you can choose 1 of 3
choices,
Show icons Notification Area   
Hide icon notification area,
Only show notifications,

Hope this helps.


-Original Message-
From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Trish
Sent: Monday, December 05, 2011 9:41 PM
To: Users of Jaws
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Jaws in System-Tray

Well, it seems as if jaws is playing hide and seek in the systems tray.
Sometimes it's there and other times not.
I have all the necessary box's checked for it to show there, have checked it
twice,lol.

I installed drop box today and now it's in the tray, but jaws is not, so I
guess it's one of them lil' mysteries no rhyme or reason puzzles?
It's just my sys-tray just seems not right without jaws in it. I do not like
to alt tab and bump into jaws in case someone suggest this..

I'm running the very latest of Jaws 13 on win/7 64 bit ASUS laptop.

Thanks for listening and for any help
Trish,

Remember that while money talks, CHOCOLATE ICE CREAM SINGS!
For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
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For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws in System-Tray

2011-12-06 Thread Trish
I do think your possibly correct, when pressing the shift 10, that is the only 
thing running, but when routing jaws cursor, I do read windows firewall when 
I'm either installing something or visiting something in IE.

- Original Message - 
From: David 
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com 
Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2011 4:02 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws in System-Tray


Hello there;
Are you sure it's the firewall?
Sounds more like the UAC user account control


-Original Message-
From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Trish
Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2011 1:12 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws in System-Tray

jaws is in the sys tray today,lol

Yes, that irritating windows firewall, I want to kill it!
I'm getting short on patients with it wanting confirmation on allowing
something I want to happen.

- Original Message -
From: David
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2011 11:41 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws in System-Tray


Ummm,murder windows firewall?


-Original Message-
From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Trish
Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2011 11:35 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws in System-Tray

Thank you, I'll give it a whirl right after I murder windows firewall.

- Original Message -
From: David
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2011 5:46 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws in System-Tray


Hello try the following;

1, from start-menu edit box type;
Taskbar,
Now, you may need to arrow and enter on, Taskbarstart-menu.
Note,
If you access the taskbar from the start button, through the applications
key, And then properties, you will land on the Start-menu page, So you will
need to shift+tab, and then left arrow to the taskbar tab.

2. now you need to tab and enter on,
Notification area customizebutton.

3. now, shift+tab,
You will see;
Always show all icons and notifications on the taskbar If the box is not
checked, Then check with the spacebar, Now tab okay press enter, And okay
your way out,

Now check your system tray.

Note, if the box,
Always show all icons and notifications on the taskbar Is not check, You can
go into, Turn system icons on or off Link; Now, you use the tab key, Find
the particular program you wish to have showing, And you can choose 1 of 3
choices,
Show icons Notification Area   
Hide icon notification area,
Only show notifications,

Hope this helps.


-Original Message-
From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Trish
Sent: Monday, December 05, 2011 9:41 PM
To: Users of Jaws
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Jaws in System-Tray

Well, it seems as if jaws is playing hide and seek in the systems tray.
Sometimes it's there and other times not.
I have all the necessary box's checked for it to show there, have checked it
twice,lol.

I installed drop box today and now it's in the tray, but jaws is not, so I
guess it's one of them lil' mysteries no rhyme or reason puzzles?
It's just my sys-tray just seems not right without jaws in it. I do not like
to alt tab and bump into jaws in case someone suggest this..

I'm running the very latest of Jaws 13 on win/7 64 bit ASUS laptop.

Thanks for listening and for any help
Trish,

Remember that while money talks, CHOCOLATE ICE CREAM SINGS!
For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


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http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
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http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws in System-Tray

2011-12-06 Thread David
Hi there;

Do you hear a sound?
Do you need to tab to yes?

Are you using IE9?
Perhaps it's the notification 
Bar which you need to press alt+n,
Or, you can simply press the letter s,
Assuming you know where your downloads are going.
Most likely into the download folder,
Just a couple of thoughts,

-Original Message-
From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Trish
Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2011 5:16 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws in System-Tray

I do think your possibly correct, when pressing the shift 10, that is the
only thing running, but when routing jaws cursor, I do read windows firewall
when I'm either installing something or visiting something in IE.

- Original Message -
From: David
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2011 4:02 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws in System-Tray


Hello there;
Are you sure it's the firewall?
Sounds more like the UAC user account control


-Original Message-
From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Trish
Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2011 1:12 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws in System-Tray

jaws is in the sys tray today,lol

Yes, that irritating windows firewall, I want to kill it!
I'm getting short on patients with it wanting confirmation on allowing
something I want to happen.

- Original Message -
From: David
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2011 11:41 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws in System-Tray


Ummm,murder windows firewall?


-Original Message-
From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Trish
Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2011 11:35 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws in System-Tray

Thank you, I'll give it a whirl right after I murder windows firewall.

- Original Message -
From: David
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2011 5:46 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws in System-Tray


Hello try the following;

1, from start-menu edit box type;
Taskbar,
Now, you may need to arrow and enter on, Taskbarstart-menu.
Note,
If you access the taskbar from the start button, through the applications
key, And then properties, you will land on the Start-menu page, So you will
need to shift+tab, and then left arrow to the taskbar tab.

2. now you need to tab and enter on,
Notification area customizebutton.

3. now, shift+tab,
You will see;
Always show all icons and notifications on the taskbar If the box is not
checked, Then check with the spacebar, Now tab okay press enter, And okay
your way out,

Now check your system tray.

Note, if the box,
Always show all icons and notifications on the taskbar Is not check, You can
go into, Turn system icons on or off Link; Now, you use the tab key, Find
the particular program you wish to have showing, And you can choose 1 of 3
choices,
Show icons Notification Area   
Hide icon notification area,
Only show notifications,

Hope this helps.


-Original Message-
From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Trish
Sent: Monday, December 05, 2011 9:41 PM
To: Users of Jaws
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Jaws in System-Tray

Well, it seems as if jaws is playing hide and seek in the systems tray.
Sometimes it's there and other times not.
I have all the necessary box's checked for it to show there, have checked it
twice,lol.

I installed drop box today and now it's in the tray, but jaws is not, so I
guess it's one of them lil' mysteries no rhyme or reason puzzles?
It's just my sys-tray just seems not right without jaws in it. I do not like
to alt tab and bump into jaws in case someone suggest this..

I'm running the very latest of Jaws 13 on win/7 64 bit ASUS laptop.

Thanks for listening and for any help
Trish,

Remember that while money talks, CHOCOLATE ICE CREAM SINGS!
For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


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http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


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http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws in System-Tray

2011-12-06 Thread Trish
I know where downloads are going straight to downloads in trish's folder. I 
usually been drop boxing from the xp machine to get on win 7 later.
I installed a game today and this is one instance the firewall reared up, and 
no, I am not using IE 9.
Let's see what else I did over yonder on said computer today..
made a couple of folders, poked around in some of the stuff installed on that 
contraption, installed some windows updates, set and reset my setting on my 
game site, looked in firewall settings but didn't get very far there. then it 
was time to send it to shut off.

- Original Message - 
From: David 
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com 
Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2011 4:51 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws in System-Tray


Hi there;

Do you hear a sound?
Do you need to tab to yes?

Are you using IE9?
Perhaps it's the notification 
Bar which you need to press alt+n,
Or, you can simply press the letter s,
Assuming you know where your downloads are going.
Most likely into the download folder,
Just a couple of thoughts,

-Original Message-
From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Trish
Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2011 5:16 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws in System-Tray

I do think your possibly correct, when pressing the shift 10, that is the
only thing running, but when routing jaws cursor, I do read windows firewall
when I'm either installing something or visiting something in IE.

- Original Message -
From: David
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2011 4:02 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws in System-Tray


Hello there;
Are you sure it's the firewall?
Sounds more like the UAC user account control


-Original Message-
From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Trish
Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2011 1:12 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws in System-Tray

jaws is in the sys tray today,lol

Yes, that irritating windows firewall, I want to kill it!
I'm getting short on patients with it wanting confirmation on allowing
something I want to happen.

- Original Message -
From: David
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2011 11:41 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws in System-Tray


Ummm,murder windows firewall?


-Original Message-
From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Trish
Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2011 11:35 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws in System-Tray

Thank you, I'll give it a whirl right after I murder windows firewall.

- Original Message -
From: David
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2011 5:46 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws in System-Tray


Hello try the following;

1, from start-menu edit box type;
Taskbar,
Now, you may need to arrow and enter on, Taskbarstart-menu.
Note,
If you access the taskbar from the start button, through the applications
key, And then properties, you will land on the Start-menu page, So you will
need to shift+tab, and then left arrow to the taskbar tab.

2. now you need to tab and enter on,
Notification area customizebutton.

3. now, shift+tab,
You will see;
Always show all icons and notifications on the taskbar If the box is not
checked, Then check with the spacebar, Now tab okay press enter, And okay
your way out,

Now check your system tray.

Note, if the box,
Always show all icons and notifications on the taskbar Is not check, You can
go into, Turn system icons on or off Link; Now, you use the tab key, Find
the particular program you wish to have showing, And you can choose 1 of 3
choices,
Show icons Notification Area   
Hide icon notification area,
Only show notifications,

Hope this helps.


-Original Message-
From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Trish
Sent: Monday, December 05, 2011 9:41 PM
To: Users of Jaws
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Jaws in System-Tray

Well, it seems as if jaws is playing hide and seek in the systems tray.
Sometimes it's there and other times not.
I have all the necessary box's checked for it to show there, have checked it
twice,lol.

I installed drop box today and now it's in the tray, but jaws is not, so I
guess it's one of them lil' mysteries no rhyme or reason puzzles?
It's just my sys-tray just seems not right without jaws in it. I do not like
to alt tab and bump into jaws in case someone suggest this..

I'm running the very latest of Jaws 13 on win/7 64 bit ASUS laptop.

Thanks for listening and for any help
Trish,

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[JAWS-Users] Jaws in System-Tray

2011-12-05 Thread Trish
Well, it seems as if jaws is playing hide and seek in the systems tray.
Sometimes it's there and other times not.
I have all the necessary box's checked for it to show there, have checked it 
twice,lol.

I installed drop box today and now it's in the tray, but jaws is not, so I 
guess it's one of them lil' mysteries no rhyme or reason puzzles?
It's just my sys-tray just seems not right without jaws in it. I do not like to 
alt tab and bump into jaws in case someone suggest this..

I'm running the very latest of Jaws 13 on win/7 64 bit ASUS laptop.

Thanks for listening and for any help
Trish,

Remember that while money talks, CHOCOLATE ICE CREAM SINGS!
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws in System-Tray

2011-12-05 Thread Ann Byrne
I haven't a clue why it doesn't display.  My student's computer 
doesn't display it either.  But we can get to it with insert-j.


At 08:40 PM 12/5/2011, you wrote:

Well, it seems as if jaws is playing hide and seek in the systems tray.
Sometimes it's there and other times not.
I have all the necessary box's checked for it to show there, have 
checked it twice,lol.


I installed drop box today and now it's in the tray, but jaws is 
not, so I guess it's one of them lil' mysteries no rhyme or reason puzzles?
It's just my sys-tray just seems not right without jaws in it. I do 
not like to alt tab and bump into jaws in case someone suggest this..


I'm running the very latest of Jaws 13 on win/7 64 bit ASUS laptop.

Thanks for listening and for any help
Trish,

Remember that while money talks, CHOCOLATE ICE CREAM SINGS!
For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws in System-Tray

2011-12-05 Thread Trish
That's how I do it too. Well, least I know it's not just me here, thanks for 
letting me know.

- Original Message - 
From: Ann Byrne 
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com 
Sent: Monday, December 05, 2011 9:01 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws in System-Tray


I haven't a clue why it doesn't display.  My student's computer 
doesn't display it either.  But we can get to it with insert-j.

At 08:40 PM 12/5/2011, you wrote:
Well, it seems as if jaws is playing hide and seek in the systems tray.
Sometimes it's there and other times not.
I have all the necessary box's checked for it to show there, have 
checked it twice,lol.

I installed drop box today and now it's in the tray, but jaws is 
not, so I guess it's one of them lil' mysteries no rhyme or reason puzzles?
It's just my sys-tray just seems not right without jaws in it. I do 
not like to alt tab and bump into jaws in case someone suggest this..

I'm running the very latest of Jaws 13 on win/7 64 bit ASUS laptop.

Thanks for listening and for any help
Trish,

Remember that while money talks, CHOCOLATE ICE CREAM SINGS!
For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws in System-Tray

2011-12-05 Thread Doris and Chris
As an xp dino, I am not sure of this but does win 7 have a setting to 
hide inactive icons in the system tray? I do not know what this would 
be called under win7 or if it even exists but under xp, vanishing 
icons might be caused by that setting, which under xp is found in the 
taskbar properties.


Just a guess! Good luck!

Doris


At 08:40 PM 12/5/2011 -0600, you wrote:

Well, it seems as if jaws is playing hide and seek in the systems tray.
Sometimes it's there and other times not.
I have all the necessary box's checked for it to show there, have 
checked it twice,lol.


I installed drop box today and now it's in the tray, but jaws is 
not, so I guess it's one of them lil' mysteries no rhyme or reason puzzles?
It's just my sys-tray just seems not right without jaws in it. I do 
not like to alt tab and bump into jaws in case someone suggest this..


I'm running the very latest of Jaws 13 on win/7 64 bit ASUS laptop.

Thanks for listening and for any help
Trish,

Remember that while money talks, CHOCOLATE ICE CREAM SINGS!
For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/



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Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws in System Tray

2007-10-10 Thread Devona Abel
I was having trouble with the menu's and I put in system tray and fixed it 
thanks you.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Chris Hallsworth 
  To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2007 4:06 PM
  Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws in System Tray


  Demo mode or otherwise, it's still personal preference whether to have JAWS 
  in the system tray or not.
  Chris Hallsworth
  BrailleNote mPower user
  Website: www.chrishallsworth.co.nr
  - Original Message - 
  From: Devona Abel [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
  Sent: Monday, October 08, 2007 4:01 PM
  Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws in System Tray


  I am running it demo mode what should I do?

  Just wondering?

  Devona
- Original Message - 
From: Chris Hallsworth
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Monday, October 08, 2007 1:41 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws in System Tray


The benefit I can think of is that JAWS will not be in the alt tab list, 
  so
if you have multiple applications open you can alt tab to them without alt
tabbing to JAWS. I like JAWS in my system tray, but some people prefer it 
  in
the taskbar. It's just personal preference.
Chris Hallsworth
BrailleNote mPower user
Website: www.chrishallsworth.co.nr
- Original Message - 
From: Jyrki Voutilainen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Monday, October 08, 2007 7:10 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws in System Tray


On Monday, October 08, 2007 6:47 AM [GMT+1=CET],
Sarah [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 There really is no way to do what you are wanting to do. you haveto
 havve it run in the system tray or  in th etask list. SAG

Oh, that's probably right, and now, after reading Patricia's mail again, I
also finally understand what she wants to do.

What would be the real benefit of having JAWS invisible both in the system
tray and the task list?

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws in System Tray

2007-10-09 Thread Baracco, Andrew W
No!  It's either one way or the other.  Why would you not want to see it
at all?

Andy
 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Patricia
Sent: Sunday, October 07, 2007 8:34 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws in System Tray

No. I want to have it out of the sys tray, I know how to do this..
But if it's not in the sys tray then will it show when I alt tab around?
I want it not in the sys tray and I don't want to alt tab and find it
there either, but I do want it to start up at system bootup.
Is this clear?
- Original Message -
From: Jyrki Voutilainen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Sunday, October 07, 2007 9:05 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws in System Tray


 On Monday, October 08, 2007 4:32 AM [GMT+1=CET], Patricia 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 If you don't put jaws in your sys-tray does this mean when you alt 
 tab your going to run into it that way?

 Don't know if I really caught what you are looking for, but by default

 JAWS is actually shown in an application window when 'alttabbing' to 
 that window.

 Can you have jaws start up without it in the systems tray and without

 it showing up when you alt tab between applications?

 When being in the JAWS window, press the ALT key, when the Options 
 menu will appear, and then arrow once to the right to open the Options

 tree view. The first option in the tree view should be 'Basics...'. 
 Press Enter and tab to 'Run JAWS from System Tray' and check it by 
 pressing the Space key. Then press Enter, close JAWS like other 
 applications with ALT + F4 and restart it. Now JAWS shouldn't appear 
 as an application window on your screen anymore.

 Was it that what you were looking for?

 Best regards,

 --
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws in System Tray

2007-10-09 Thread Baracco, Andrew W
You wouldn't want to do that even if you could, because then you
wouldn't have access to the program to make configuration changes etc.
or even to unload it if you wanted to.

Andy
 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Patricia
Sent: Sunday, October 07, 2007 8:34 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws in System Tray

No. I want to have it out of the sys tray, I know how to do this..
But if it's not in the sys tray then will it show when I alt tab around?
I want it not in the sys tray and I don't want to alt tab and find it
there either, but I do want it to start up at system bootup.
Is this clear?
- Original Message -
From: Jyrki Voutilainen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Sunday, October 07, 2007 9:05 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws in System Tray


 On Monday, October 08, 2007 4:32 AM [GMT+1=CET], Patricia 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 If you don't put jaws in your sys-tray does this mean when you alt 
 tab your going to run into it that way?

 Don't know if I really caught what you are looking for, but by default

 JAWS is actually shown in an application window when 'alttabbing' to 
 that window.

 Can you have jaws start up without it in the systems tray and without

 it showing up when you alt tab between applications?

 When being in the JAWS window, press the ALT key, when the Options 
 menu will appear, and then arrow once to the right to open the Options

 tree view. The first option in the tree view should be 'Basics...'. 
 Press Enter and tab to 'Run JAWS from System Tray' and check it by 
 pressing the Space key. Then press Enter, close JAWS like other 
 applications with ALT + F4 and restart it. Now JAWS shouldn't appear 
 as an application window on your screen anymore.

 Was it that what you were looking for?

 Best regards,

 --
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 Skype ID: jvoutila


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws in System Tray

2007-10-09 Thread Patti
Hey Andy,
Yes you can make changes if Jaws is in the system tray, because I just did 
that.
Patti
- Original Message - 
From: Baracco, Andrew W [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2007 12:03 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws in System Tray


 You wouldn't want to do that even if you could, because then you
 wouldn't have access to the program to make configuration changes etc.
 or even to unload it if you wanted to.

 Andy


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Patricia
 Sent: Sunday, October 07, 2007 8:34 PM
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws in System Tray

 No. I want to have it out of the sys tray, I know how to do this..
 But if it's not in the sys tray then will it show when I alt tab around?
 I want it not in the sys tray and I don't want to alt tab and find it
 there either, but I do want it to start up at system bootup.
 Is this clear?
 - Original Message -
 From: Jyrki Voutilainen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Sent: Sunday, October 07, 2007 9:05 PM
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws in System Tray


 On Monday, October 08, 2007 4:32 AM [GMT+1=CET], Patricia
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 If you don't put jaws in your sys-tray does this mean when you alt
 tab your going to run into it that way?

 Don't know if I really caught what you are looking for, but by default

 JAWS is actually shown in an application window when 'alttabbing' to
 that window.

 Can you have jaws start up without it in the systems tray and without

 it showing up when you alt tab between applications?

 When being in the JAWS window, press the ALT key, when the Options
 menu will appear, and then arrow once to the right to open the Options

 tree view. The first option in the tree view should be 'Basics...'.
 Press Enter and tab to 'Run JAWS from System Tray' and check it by
 pressing the Space key. Then press Enter, close JAWS like other
 applications with ALT + F4 and restart it. Now JAWS shouldn't appear
 as an application window on your screen anymore.

 Was it that what you were looking for?

 Best regards,

 --
 Jyrki Voutilainen
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 Skype ID: jvoutila


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws in System Tray

2007-10-09 Thread Baracco, Andrew W
The only problem that I have found with running JAWS from the system
tray is that i can't access all of the menus.  I can only access the
first list of options.  I cannot, for example, access the utilities or
help menu.  To do this, i have to leave the JAWS window intact.

Andy


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rosemarie
Chavarria
Sent: Monday, October 08, 2007 11:26 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws in System Tray

Hi, Patricia.  I run Jaws from the system tray and it does work really
great.
Rosemarie

- Original Message -
From: Patricia [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Monday, October 08, 2007 9:02 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws in System Tray


I agree the system tray is the best without a doubt, just in my
pursuits of
 freeing up resources is how this thread came up in the first place..


 - Original Message - 
 From: Flor Lynch [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Sent: Monday, October 08, 2007 5:59 AM
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws in System Tray


 There is no benefit to be had from it being neither in the System
Tray 
 nor
 on the taskbar, if such were possible (which it isn't).  I like it in
the
 system Tray, running in the background like some other apps (such as
 antivirus, Juice, etc.).  There are some options it is easier to
change 
 in
 JAWS by having it there, than having to go into the Config Manager
with
 its
 slews of settings.

 - Original Message - 
 From: Patricia [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Sent: Monday, October 08, 2007 4:34 AM
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws in System Tray


 No. I want to have it out of the sys tray, I know how to do this..
 But if it's not in the sys tray then will it show when I alt tab
around?
 I want it not in the sys tray and I don't want to alt tab and find it
 there
 either, but I do want it to start up at system bootup.
 Is this clear?
 - Original Message - 
From: Jyrki Voutilainen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Sent: Sunday, October 07, 2007 9:05 PM
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws in System Tray


 On Monday, October 08, 2007 4:32 AM [GMT+1=CET],
 Patricia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 If you don't put jaws in your sys-tray does this mean when you alt
 tab your going to run into it that way?

 Don't know if I really caught what you are looking for, but by
default
 JAWS is actually shown in an application window when 'alttabbing' to

 that
 window.

 Can you have jaws start up without it in the systems tray and
without
 it showing up when you alt tab between applications?

 When being in the JAWS window, press the ALT key, when the Options
menu
 will appear, and then arrow once to the right to open the Options
tree
 view. The first option in the tree view should be 'Basics...'. Press
 Enter
 and tab to 'Run JAWS from System Tray' and check it by pressing the 
 Space
 key. Then press Enter, close JAWS like other applications with ALT +
F4
 and restart it. Now JAWS shouldn't appear as an application window
on
 your
 screen anymore.

 Was it that what you were looking for?

 Best regards,

 -- 
 Jyrki Voutilainen
 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Skype ID: jvoutila


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 http://www.jaws-users.com
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws in System Tray

2007-10-09 Thread Eric Damery
Andy,
When running in the system tray, pressing INSERT J will give you a
context menu that contains the all the items normally found in the Menu
bar of the application window. User up and down arrow to move to the
items like Help, Utilities, Language, and so on.
Regards,
Eric

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Baracco,
Andrew W
Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2007 1:30 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws in System Tray

The only problem that I have found with running JAWS from the system
tray is that i can't access all of the menus.  I can only access the
first list of options.  I cannot, for example, access the utilities or
help menu.  To do this, i have to leave the JAWS window intact.

Andy


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rosemarie
Chavarria
Sent: Monday, October 08, 2007 11:26 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws in System Tray

Hi, Patricia.  I run Jaws from the system tray and it does work really
great.
Rosemarie

- Original Message -
From: Patricia [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Monday, October 08, 2007 9:02 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws in System Tray


I agree the system tray is the best without a doubt, just in my
pursuits of
 freeing up resources is how this thread came up in the first place..


 - Original Message - 
 From: Flor Lynch [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Sent: Monday, October 08, 2007 5:59 AM
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws in System Tray


 There is no benefit to be had from it being neither in the System
Tray 
 nor
 on the taskbar, if such were possible (which it isn't).  I like it in
the
 system Tray, running in the background like some other apps (such as
 antivirus, Juice, etc.).  There are some options it is easier to
change 
 in
 JAWS by having it there, than having to go into the Config Manager
with
 its
 slews of settings.

 - Original Message - 
 From: Patricia [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Sent: Monday, October 08, 2007 4:34 AM
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws in System Tray


 No. I want to have it out of the sys tray, I know how to do this..
 But if it's not in the sys tray then will it show when I alt tab
around?
 I want it not in the sys tray and I don't want to alt tab and find it
 there
 either, but I do want it to start up at system bootup.
 Is this clear?
 - Original Message - 
From: Jyrki Voutilainen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Sent: Sunday, October 07, 2007 9:05 PM
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws in System Tray


 On Monday, October 08, 2007 4:32 AM [GMT+1=CET],
 Patricia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 If you don't put jaws in your sys-tray does this mean when you alt
 tab your going to run into it that way?

 Don't know if I really caught what you are looking for, but by
default
 JAWS is actually shown in an application window when 'alttabbing' to

 that
 window.

 Can you have jaws start up without it in the systems tray and
without
 it showing up when you alt tab between applications?

 When being in the JAWS window, press the ALT key, when the Options
menu
 will appear, and then arrow once to the right to open the Options
tree
 view. The first option in the tree view should be 'Basics...'. Press
 Enter
 and tab to 'Run JAWS from System Tray' and check it by pressing the 
 Space
 key. Then press Enter, close JAWS like other applications with ALT +
F4
 and restart it. Now JAWS shouldn't appear as an application window
on
 your
 screen anymore.

 Was it that what you were looking for?

 Best regards,

 -- 
 Jyrki Voutilainen
 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Skype ID: jvoutila


 Visit the JAWS Users List home page at:
 http://www.jaws-users.com
 Address for the list archives:
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws in System Tray

2007-10-09 Thread Chris Skarstad
Hi. I should also add that, at least on my particular system, that 
when you check the run JAWS in system tray checkbox and press ok, the 
only way to get this behavior to happen is to shut down, and restart 
JAWS. I don't know if that was by design.
  Anyways,  That's how it works for me. and to be honest I quite 
prefer it being in the system tray.  Nice!








At 12:36 PM 10/9/2007, you wrote:
Andy,
When running in the system tray, pressing INSERT J will give you a
context menu that contains the all the items normally found in the Menu
bar of the application window. User up and down arrow to move to the
items like Help, Utilities, Language, and so on.
Regards,
Eric

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Baracco,
Andrew W
Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2007 1:30 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws in System Tray

The only problem that I have found with running JAWS from the system
tray is that i can't access all of the menus.  I can only access the
first list of options.  I cannot, for example, access the utilities or
help menu.  To do this, i have to leave the JAWS window intact.

Andy


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rosemarie
Chavarria
Sent: Monday, October 08, 2007 11:26 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws in System Tray

Hi, Patricia.  I run Jaws from the system tray and it does work really
great.
Rosemarie

- Original Message -
From: Patricia [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Monday, October 08, 2007 9:02 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws in System Tray


 I agree the system tray is the best without a doubt, just in my
pursuits of
  freeing up resources is how this thread came up in the first place..
 
 
  - Original Message -
  From: Flor Lynch [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
  Sent: Monday, October 08, 2007 5:59 AM
  Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws in System Tray
 
 
  There is no benefit to be had from it being neither in the System
Tray
  nor
  on the taskbar, if such were possible (which it isn't).  I like it in
the
  system Tray, running in the background like some other apps (such as
  antivirus, Juice, etc.).  There are some options it is easier to
change
  in
  JAWS by having it there, than having to go into the Config Manager
with
  its
  slews of settings.
 
  - Original Message -
  From: Patricia [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
  Sent: Monday, October 08, 2007 4:34 AM
  Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws in System Tray
 
 
  No. I want to have it out of the sys tray, I know how to do this..
  But if it's not in the sys tray then will it show when I alt tab
around?
  I want it not in the sys tray and I don't want to alt tab and find it
  there
  either, but I do want it to start up at system bootup.
  Is this clear?
  - Original Message -
 From: Jyrki Voutilainen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
  Sent: Sunday, October 07, 2007 9:05 PM
  Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws in System Tray
 
 
  On Monday, October 08, 2007 4:32 AM [GMT+1=CET],
  Patricia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  If you don't put jaws in your sys-tray does this mean when you alt
  tab your going to run into it that way?
 
  Don't know if I really caught what you are looking for, but by
default
  JAWS is actually shown in an application window when 'alttabbing' to

  that
  window.
 
  Can you have jaws start up without it in the systems tray and
without
  it showing up when you alt tab between applications?
 
  When being in the JAWS window, press the ALT key, when the Options
menu
  will appear, and then arrow once to the right to open the Options
tree
  view. The first option in the tree view should be 'Basics...'. Press
  Enter
  and tab to 'Run JAWS from System Tray' and check it by pressing the
  Space
  key. Then press Enter, close JAWS like other applications with ALT +
F4
  and restart it. Now JAWS shouldn't appear as an application window
on
  your
  screen anymore.
 
  Was it that what you were looking for?
 
  Best regards,
 
  --
  Jyrki Voutilainen
  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Skype ID: jvoutila
 
 
  Visit the JAWS Users List home page at:
  http://www.jaws-users.com
  Address for the list archives:
  http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
  To post to this group, send email to
  jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
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  following address:
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws in System Tray

2007-10-09 Thread Doug Oliver
thanks for that message,  Eric,  I was about to poste that,  so you beat me 
to it.
Anyways, if you all need help with JAWS, I'm also happy to help you guys out 
on list. P.s my msn messenger contact is also at the bottom of this message 
for any of you who wish to add me.
Take care, all.  A loyal JAWS user.
Again, good message eric

- Original Message - 
From: Eric Damery [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2007 12:36 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws in System Tray


 Andy,
 When running in the system tray, pressing INSERT J will give you a
 context menu that contains the all the items normally found in the Menu
 bar of the application window. User up and down arrow to move to the
 items like Help, Utilities, Language, and so on.
 Regards,
 Eric

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Baracco,
 Andrew W
 Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2007 1:30 PM
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws in System Tray

 The only problem that I have found with running JAWS from the system
 tray is that i can't access all of the menus.  I can only access the
 first list of options.  I cannot, for example, access the utilities or
 help menu.  To do this, i have to leave the JAWS window intact.

 Andy


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rosemarie
 Chavarria
 Sent: Monday, October 08, 2007 11:26 AM
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws in System Tray

 Hi, Patricia.  I run Jaws from the system tray and it does work really
 great.
 Rosemarie

 - Original Message -
 From: Patricia [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Sent: Monday, October 08, 2007 9:02 AM
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws in System Tray


I agree the system tray is the best without a doubt, just in my
 pursuits of
 freeing up resources is how this thread came up in the first place..


 - Original Message - 
 From: Flor Lynch [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Sent: Monday, October 08, 2007 5:59 AM
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws in System Tray


 There is no benefit to be had from it being neither in the System
 Tray
 nor
 on the taskbar, if such were possible (which it isn't).  I like it in
 the
 system Tray, running in the background like some other apps (such as
 antivirus, Juice, etc.).  There are some options it is easier to
 change
 in
 JAWS by having it there, than having to go into the Config Manager
 with
 its
 slews of settings.

 - Original Message - 
 From: Patricia [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Sent: Monday, October 08, 2007 4:34 AM
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws in System Tray


 No. I want to have it out of the sys tray, I know how to do this..
 But if it's not in the sys tray then will it show when I alt tab
 around?
 I want it not in the sys tray and I don't want to alt tab and find it
 there
 either, but I do want it to start up at system bootup.
 Is this clear?
 - Original Message - 
From: Jyrki Voutilainen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Sent: Sunday, October 07, 2007 9:05 PM
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws in System Tray


 On Monday, October 08, 2007 4:32 AM [GMT+1=CET],
 Patricia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 If you don't put jaws in your sys-tray does this mean when you alt
 tab your going to run into it that way?

 Don't know if I really caught what you are looking for, but by
 default
 JAWS is actually shown in an application window when 'alttabbing' to

 that
 window.

 Can you have jaws start up without it in the systems tray and
 without
 it showing up when you alt tab between applications?

 When being in the JAWS window, press the ALT key, when the Options
 menu
 will appear, and then arrow once to the right to open the Options
 tree
 view. The first option in the tree view should be 'Basics...'. Press
 Enter
 and tab to 'Run JAWS from System Tray' and check it by pressing the
 Space
 key. Then press Enter, close JAWS like other applications with ALT +
 F4
 and restart it. Now JAWS shouldn't appear as an application window
 on
 your
 screen anymore.

 Was it that what you were looking for?

 Best regards,

 -- 
 Jyrki Voutilainen
 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Skype ID: jvoutila


 Visit the JAWS Users List home page at:
 http://www.jaws-users.com
 Address for the list archives:
 http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws in System Tray

2007-10-09 Thread David A Ferrin
That's the purpose of this list to help each other out and share 
information, thanks for your in put.
David Ferrin
 www.jaws-users.com
- Original Message - 
From: Doug Oliver [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2007 1:44 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws in System Tray


thanks for that message,  Eric,  I was about to poste that,  so you beat me
to it.
Anyways, if you all need help with JAWS, I'm also happy to help you guys out
on list. P.s my msn messenger contact is also at the bottom of this message
for any of you who wish to add me.
Take care, all.  A loyal JAWS user.
Again, good message eric

- Original Message - 
From: Eric Damery [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2007 12:36 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws in System Tray


 Andy,
 When running in the system tray, pressing INSERT J will give you a
 context menu that contains the all the items normally found in the Menu
 bar of the application window. User up and down arrow to move to the
 items like Help, Utilities, Language, and so on.
 Regards,
 Eric

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Baracco,
 Andrew W
 Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2007 1:30 PM
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws in System Tray

 The only problem that I have found with running JAWS from the system
 tray is that i can't access all of the menus.  I can only access the
 first list of options.  I cannot, for example, access the utilities or
 help menu.  To do this, i have to leave the JAWS window intact.

 Andy


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rosemarie
 Chavarria
 Sent: Monday, October 08, 2007 11:26 AM
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws in System Tray

 Hi, Patricia.  I run Jaws from the system tray and it does work really
 great.
 Rosemarie

 - Original Message -
 From: Patricia [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Sent: Monday, October 08, 2007 9:02 AM
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws in System Tray


I agree the system tray is the best without a doubt, just in my
 pursuits of
 freeing up resources is how this thread came up in the first place..


 - Original Message - 
 From: Flor Lynch [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Sent: Monday, October 08, 2007 5:59 AM
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws in System Tray


 There is no benefit to be had from it being neither in the System
 Tray
 nor
 on the taskbar, if such were possible (which it isn't).  I like it in
 the
 system Tray, running in the background like some other apps (such as
 antivirus, Juice, etc.).  There are some options it is easier to
 change
 in
 JAWS by having it there, than having to go into the Config Manager
 with
 its
 slews of settings.

 - Original Message - 
 From: Patricia [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Sent: Monday, October 08, 2007 4:34 AM
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws in System Tray


 No. I want to have it out of the sys tray, I know how to do this..
 But if it's not in the sys tray then will it show when I alt tab
 around?
 I want it not in the sys tray and I don't want to alt tab and find it
 there
 either, but I do want it to start up at system bootup.
 Is this clear?
 - Original Message - 
From: Jyrki Voutilainen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Sent: Sunday, October 07, 2007 9:05 PM
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws in System Tray


 On Monday, October 08, 2007 4:32 AM [GMT+1=CET],
 Patricia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 If you don't put jaws in your sys-tray does this mean when you alt
 tab your going to run into it that way?

 Don't know if I really caught what you are looking for, but by
 default
 JAWS is actually shown in an application window when 'alttabbing' to

 that
 window.

 Can you have jaws start up without it in the systems tray and
 without
 it showing up when you alt tab between applications?

 When being in the JAWS window, press the ALT key, when the Options
 menu
 will appear, and then arrow once to the right to open the Options
 tree
 view. The first option in the tree view should be 'Basics...'. Press
 Enter
 and tab to 'Run JAWS from System Tray' and check it by pressing the
 Space
 key. Then press Enter, close JAWS like other applications with ALT +
 F4
 and restart it. Now JAWS shouldn't appear as an application window
 on
 your
 screen anymore.

 Was it that what you were looking for?

 Best regards,

 -- 
 Jyrki Voutilainen
 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Skype ID: jvoutila


 Visit the JAWS Users List home page at:
 http://www.jaws-users.com
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws in System Tray

2007-10-09 Thread Rosemarie Chavarria
Hi, David

I was on a couple of other Jaws lists but I think this is the best one. 
Everybody on here is really great.
Rosemarie

- Original Message - 
From: David A Ferrin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2007 11:26 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws in System Tray


 That's the purpose of this list to help each other out and share
 information, thanks for your in put.
 David Ferrin
 www.jaws-users.com
 - Original Message - 
 From: Doug Oliver [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2007 1:44 PM
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws in System Tray


 thanks for that message,  Eric,  I was about to poste that,  so you beat 
 me
 to it.
 Anyways, if you all need help with JAWS, I'm also happy to help you guys 
 out
 on list. P.s my msn messenger contact is also at the bottom of this 
 message
 for any of you who wish to add me.
 Take care, all.  A loyal JAWS user.
 Again, good message eric

 - Original Message - 
 From: Eric Damery [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2007 12:36 PM
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws in System Tray


 Andy,
 When running in the system tray, pressing INSERT J will give you a
 context menu that contains the all the items normally found in the Menu
 bar of the application window. User up and down arrow to move to the
 items like Help, Utilities, Language, and so on.
 Regards,
 Eric

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Baracco,
 Andrew W
 Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2007 1:30 PM
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws in System Tray

 The only problem that I have found with running JAWS from the system
 tray is that i can't access all of the menus.  I can only access the
 first list of options.  I cannot, for example, access the utilities or
 help menu.  To do this, i have to leave the JAWS window intact.

 Andy


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rosemarie
 Chavarria
 Sent: Monday, October 08, 2007 11:26 AM
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws in System Tray

 Hi, Patricia.  I run Jaws from the system tray and it does work really
 great.
 Rosemarie

 - Original Message -
 From: Patricia [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Sent: Monday, October 08, 2007 9:02 AM
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws in System Tray


I agree the system tray is the best without a doubt, just in my
 pursuits of
 freeing up resources is how this thread came up in the first place..


 - Original Message - 
 From: Flor Lynch [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Sent: Monday, October 08, 2007 5:59 AM
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws in System Tray


 There is no benefit to be had from it being neither in the System
 Tray
 nor
 on the taskbar, if such were possible (which it isn't).  I like it in
 the
 system Tray, running in the background like some other apps (such as
 antivirus, Juice, etc.).  There are some options it is easier to
 change
 in
 JAWS by having it there, than having to go into the Config Manager
 with
 its
 slews of settings.

 - Original Message - 
 From: Patricia [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Sent: Monday, October 08, 2007 4:34 AM
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws in System Tray


 No. I want to have it out of the sys tray, I know how to do this..
 But if it's not in the sys tray then will it show when I alt tab
 around?
 I want it not in the sys tray and I don't want to alt tab and find it
 there
 either, but I do want it to start up at system bootup.
 Is this clear?
 - Original Message - 
From: Jyrki Voutilainen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Sent: Sunday, October 07, 2007 9:05 PM
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws in System Tray


 On Monday, October 08, 2007 4:32 AM [GMT+1=CET],
 Patricia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 If you don't put jaws in your sys-tray does this mean when you alt
 tab your going to run into it that way?

 Don't know if I really caught what you are looking for, but by
 default
 JAWS is actually shown in an application window when 'alttabbing' to

 that
 window.

 Can you have jaws start up without it in the systems tray and
 without
 it showing up when you alt tab between applications?

 When being in the JAWS window, press the ALT key, when the Options
 menu
 will appear, and then arrow once to the right to open the Options
 tree
 view. The first option in the tree view should be 'Basics...'. Press
 Enter
 and tab to 'Run JAWS from System Tray' and check it by pressing the
 Space
 key. Then press Enter, close JAWS like other applications with ALT +
 F4
 and restart it. Now JAWS shouldn't appear as an application window
 on
 your
 screen anymore.

 Was it that what you were looking for?

 Best regards,

 -- 
 Jyrki Voutilainen
 mailto:[EMAIL

Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws in System Tray

2007-10-09 Thread Sarah
No you don't . Yousut hit incert+j and then you are pressented with a submenu 
with all the menues in there.
SAG
- Original Message - 
From: Baracco, Andrew W [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2007 10:29 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws in System Tray


The only problem that I have found with running JAWS from the system
tray is that i can't access all of the menus.  I can only access the
first list of options.  I cannot, for example, access the utilities or
help menu.  To do this, i have to leave the JAWS window intact.

Andy


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rosemarie
Chavarria
Sent: Monday, October 08, 2007 11:26 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws in System Tray

Hi, Patricia.  I run Jaws from the system tray and it does work really
great.
Rosemarie

- Original Message -
From: Patricia [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Monday, October 08, 2007 9:02 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws in System Tray


I agree the system tray is the best without a doubt, just in my
pursuits of
 freeing up resources is how this thread came up in the first place..


 - Original Message - 
 From: Flor Lynch [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Sent: Monday, October 08, 2007 5:59 AM
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws in System Tray


 There is no benefit to be had from it being neither in the System
Tray 
 nor
 on the taskbar, if such were possible (which it isn't).  I like it in
the
 system Tray, running in the background like some other apps (such as
 antivirus, Juice, etc.).  There are some options it is easier to
change 
 in
 JAWS by having it there, than having to go into the Config Manager
with
 its
 slews of settings.

 - Original Message - 
 From: Patricia [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Sent: Monday, October 08, 2007 4:34 AM
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws in System Tray


 No. I want to have it out of the sys tray, I know how to do this..
 But if it's not in the sys tray then will it show when I alt tab
around?
 I want it not in the sys tray and I don't want to alt tab and find it
 there
 either, but I do want it to start up at system bootup.
 Is this clear?
 - Original Message - 
From: Jyrki Voutilainen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Sent: Sunday, October 07, 2007 9:05 PM
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws in System Tray


 On Monday, October 08, 2007 4:32 AM [GMT+1=CET],
 Patricia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 If you don't put jaws in your sys-tray does this mean when you alt
 tab your going to run into it that way?

 Don't know if I really caught what you are looking for, but by
default
 JAWS is actually shown in an application window when 'alttabbing' to

 that
 window.

 Can you have jaws start up without it in the systems tray and
without
 it showing up when you alt tab between applications?

 When being in the JAWS window, press the ALT key, when the Options
menu
 will appear, and then arrow once to the right to open the Options
tree
 view. The first option in the tree view should be 'Basics...'. Press
 Enter
 and tab to 'Run JAWS from System Tray' and check it by pressing the 
 Space
 key. Then press Enter, close JAWS like other applications with ALT +
F4
 and restart it. Now JAWS shouldn't appear as an application window
on
 your
 screen anymore.

 Was it that what you were looking for?

 Best regards,

 -- 
 Jyrki Voutilainen
 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Skype ID: jvoutila


 Visit the JAWS Users List home page at:
 http://www.jaws-users.com
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws in System Tray

2007-10-09 Thread David A Ferrin
Thank you for the kind words. Actually the list will be 2 years old at the 
end of this week already.
David Ferrin
 www.jaws-users.com
- Original Message - 
From: Rosemarie Chavarria [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2007 2:52 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws in System Tray


Hi, David

I was on a couple of other Jaws lists but I think this is the best one.
Everybody on here is really great.
Rosemarie

- Original Message - 
From: David A Ferrin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2007 11:26 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws in System Tray


 That's the purpose of this list to help each other out and share
 information, thanks for your in put.
 David Ferrin
 www.jaws-users.com
 - Original Message - 
 From: Doug Oliver [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2007 1:44 PM
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws in System Tray


 thanks for that message,  Eric,  I was about to poste that,  so you beat
 me
 to it.
 Anyways, if you all need help with JAWS, I'm also happy to help you guys
 out
 on list. P.s my msn messenger contact is also at the bottom of this
 message
 for any of you who wish to add me.
 Take care, all.  A loyal JAWS user.
 Again, good message eric

 - Original Message - 
 From: Eric Damery [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2007 12:36 PM
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws in System Tray


 Andy,
 When running in the system tray, pressing INSERT J will give you a
 context menu that contains the all the items normally found in the Menu
 bar of the application window. User up and down arrow to move to the
 items like Help, Utilities, Language, and so on.
 Regards,
 Eric

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Baracco,
 Andrew W
 Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2007 1:30 PM
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws in System Tray

 The only problem that I have found with running JAWS from the system
 tray is that i can't access all of the menus.  I can only access the
 first list of options.  I cannot, for example, access the utilities or
 help menu.  To do this, i have to leave the JAWS window intact.

 Andy


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rosemarie
 Chavarria
 Sent: Monday, October 08, 2007 11:26 AM
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws in System Tray

 Hi, Patricia.  I run Jaws from the system tray and it does work really
 great.
 Rosemarie

 - Original Message -
 From: Patricia [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Sent: Monday, October 08, 2007 9:02 AM
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws in System Tray


I agree the system tray is the best without a doubt, just in my
 pursuits of
 freeing up resources is how this thread came up in the first place..


 - Original Message - 
 From: Flor Lynch [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Sent: Monday, October 08, 2007 5:59 AM
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws in System Tray


 There is no benefit to be had from it being neither in the System
 Tray
 nor
 on the taskbar, if such were possible (which it isn't).  I like it in
 the
 system Tray, running in the background like some other apps (such as
 antivirus, Juice, etc.).  There are some options it is easier to
 change
 in
 JAWS by having it there, than having to go into the Config Manager
 with
 its
 slews of settings.

 - Original Message - 
 From: Patricia [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Sent: Monday, October 08, 2007 4:34 AM
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws in System Tray


 No. I want to have it out of the sys tray, I know how to do this..
 But if it's not in the sys tray then will it show when I alt tab
 around?
 I want it not in the sys tray and I don't want to alt tab and find it
 there
 either, but I do want it to start up at system bootup.
 Is this clear?
 - Original Message - 
From: Jyrki Voutilainen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Sent: Sunday, October 07, 2007 9:05 PM
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws in System Tray


 On Monday, October 08, 2007 4:32 AM [GMT+1=CET],
 Patricia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 If you don't put jaws in your sys-tray does this mean when you alt
 tab your going to run into it that way?

 Don't know if I really caught what you are looking for, but by
 default
 JAWS is actually shown in an application window when 'alttabbing' to

 that
 window.

 Can you have jaws start up without it in the systems tray and
 without
 it showing up when you alt tab between applications?

 When being in the JAWS window, press the ALT key, when the Options
 menu
 will appear, and then arrow once to the right to open the Options
 tree
 view. The first option in the tree view should be 'Basics...'. Press
 Enter
 and tab

Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws in System Tray

2007-10-09 Thread Chris Hallsworth
Wow, happy birthday JAWS users list!
Chris Hallsworth
BrailleNote mPower user
Website: www.chrishallsworth.co.nr
- Original Message - 
From: David A Ferrin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2007 8:30 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws in System Tray


Thank you for the kind words. Actually the list will be 2 years old at the
end of this week already.
David Ferrin
 www.jaws-users.com
- Original Message - 
From: Rosemarie Chavarria [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2007 2:52 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws in System Tray


Hi, David

I was on a couple of other Jaws lists but I think this is the best one.
Everybody on here is really great.
Rosemarie

- Original Message - 
From: David A Ferrin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2007 11:26 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws in System Tray


 That's the purpose of this list to help each other out and share
 information, thanks for your in put.
 David Ferrin
 www.jaws-users.com
 - Original Message - 
 From: Doug Oliver [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2007 1:44 PM
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws in System Tray


 thanks for that message,  Eric,  I was about to poste that,  so you beat
 me
 to it.
 Anyways, if you all need help with JAWS, I'm also happy to help you guys
 out
 on list. P.s my msn messenger contact is also at the bottom of this
 message
 for any of you who wish to add me.
 Take care, all.  A loyal JAWS user.
 Again, good message eric

 - Original Message - 
 From: Eric Damery [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2007 12:36 PM
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws in System Tray


 Andy,
 When running in the system tray, pressing INSERT J will give you a
 context menu that contains the all the items normally found in the Menu
 bar of the application window. User up and down arrow to move to the
 items like Help, Utilities, Language, and so on.
 Regards,
 Eric

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Baracco,
 Andrew W
 Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2007 1:30 PM
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws in System Tray

 The only problem that I have found with running JAWS from the system
 tray is that i can't access all of the menus.  I can only access the
 first list of options.  I cannot, for example, access the utilities or
 help menu.  To do this, i have to leave the JAWS window intact.

 Andy


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rosemarie
 Chavarria
 Sent: Monday, October 08, 2007 11:26 AM
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws in System Tray

 Hi, Patricia.  I run Jaws from the system tray and it does work really
 great.
 Rosemarie

 - Original Message -
 From: Patricia [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Sent: Monday, October 08, 2007 9:02 AM
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws in System Tray


I agree the system tray is the best without a doubt, just in my
 pursuits of
 freeing up resources is how this thread came up in the first place..


 - Original Message - 
 From: Flor Lynch [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Sent: Monday, October 08, 2007 5:59 AM
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws in System Tray


 There is no benefit to be had from it being neither in the System
 Tray
 nor
 on the taskbar, if such were possible (which it isn't).  I like it in
 the
 system Tray, running in the background like some other apps (such as
 antivirus, Juice, etc.).  There are some options it is easier to
 change
 in
 JAWS by having it there, than having to go into the Config Manager
 with
 its
 slews of settings.

 - Original Message - 
 From: Patricia [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Sent: Monday, October 08, 2007 4:34 AM
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws in System Tray


 No. I want to have it out of the sys tray, I know how to do this..
 But if it's not in the sys tray then will it show when I alt tab
 around?
 I want it not in the sys tray and I don't want to alt tab and find it
 there
 either, but I do want it to start up at system bootup.
 Is this clear?
 - Original Message - 
From: Jyrki Voutilainen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Sent: Sunday, October 07, 2007 9:05 PM
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws in System Tray


 On Monday, October 08, 2007 4:32 AM [GMT+1=CET],
 Patricia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 If you don't put jaws in your sys-tray does this mean when you alt
 tab your going to run into it that way?

 Don't know if I really caught what you are looking for, but by
 default
 JAWS is actually shown in an application window when 'alttabbing' to

 that
 window.

 Can you have jaws start up without it in the systems tray

Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws in System Tray

2007-10-09 Thread Baracco, Andrew W
The only advantage I can see is that if in the system tray, there will
be one less window in the ALT-TAB order.

Andy
 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chris
Hallsworth
Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2007 2:07 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws in System Tray

Demo mode or otherwise, it's still personal preference whether to have
JAWS in the system tray or not.
Chris Hallsworth
BrailleNote mPower user
Website: www.chrishallsworth.co.nr
- Original Message -
From: Devona Abel [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Monday, October 08, 2007 4:01 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws in System Tray


I am running it demo mode what should I do?

Just wondering?

Devona
  - Original Message -
  From: Chris Hallsworth
  To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
  Sent: Monday, October 08, 2007 1:41 AM
  Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws in System Tray


  The benefit I can think of is that JAWS will not be in the alt tab
list, 
so
  if you have multiple applications open you can alt tab to them without
alt
  tabbing to JAWS. I like JAWS in my system tray, but some people prefer
it 
in
  the taskbar. It's just personal preference.
  Chris Hallsworth
  BrailleNote mPower user
  Website: www.chrishallsworth.co.nr
  - Original Message - 
  From: Jyrki Voutilainen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
  Sent: Monday, October 08, 2007 7:10 AM
  Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws in System Tray


  On Monday, October 08, 2007 6:47 AM [GMT+1=CET],
  Sarah [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   There really is no way to do what you are wanting to do. you haveto
   havve it run in the system tray or  in th etask list. SAG

  Oh, that's probably right, and now, after reading Patricia's mail
again, I
  also finally understand what she wants to do.

  What would be the real benefit of having JAWS invisible both in the
system
  tray and the task list?

  -- 
  Jyrki Voutilainen
  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Skype ID: jvoutila


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws in System Tray

2007-10-09 Thread JOHN O CARVALHO
I really didn't mean to be so  sarcastic.
Will you please except my apologies
PEACE

John Carvalho
- Original Message - 
From: Baracco, Andrew W [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2007 5:16 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws in System Tray


 Hello John,

 I really do not like the tone of your post.  If you are not having the
 problem, that's great, but don't put me down because I am.

 Andy


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of JOHN O
 CARVALHO
 Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2007 1:40 PM
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws in System Tray

 I just went to my jaws in the system tray, I got all of my things.
 I don't know what you are talking about.

 PEACE

 John Carvalho
 - Original Message -
 From: Baracco, Andrew W [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2007 1:29 PM
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws in System Tray


 The only problem that I have found with running JAWS from the system
 tray is that i can't access all of the menus.  I can only access the
 first list of options.  I cannot, for example, access the utilities or
 help menu.  To do this, i have to leave the JAWS window intact.

 Andy


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rosemarie
 Chavarria
 Sent: Monday, October 08, 2007 11:26 AM
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws in System Tray

 Hi, Patricia.  I run Jaws from the system tray and it does work really
 great.
 Rosemarie

 - Original Message -
 From: Patricia [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Sent: Monday, October 08, 2007 9:02 AM
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws in System Tray


I agree the system tray is the best without a doubt, just in my
 pursuits of
 freeing up resources is how this thread came up in the first place..


 - Original Message - 
 From: Flor Lynch [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Sent: Monday, October 08, 2007 5:59 AM
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws in System Tray


 There is no benefit to be had from it being neither in the System
 Tray
 nor
 on the taskbar, if such were possible (which it isn't).  I like it
 in
 the
 system Tray, running in the background like some other apps (such as
 antivirus, Juice, etc.).  There are some options it is easier to
 change
 in
 JAWS by having it there, than having to go into the Config Manager
 with
 its
 slews of settings.

 - Original Message - 
 From: Patricia [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Sent: Monday, October 08, 2007 4:34 AM
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws in System Tray


 No. I want to have it out of the sys tray, I know how to do this..
 But if it's not in the sys tray then will it show when I alt tab
 around?
 I want it not in the sys tray and I don't want to alt tab and find
 it
 there
 either, but I do want it to start up at system bootup.
 Is this clear?
 - Original Message - 
From: Jyrki Voutilainen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Sent: Sunday, October 07, 2007 9:05 PM
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws in System Tray


 On Monday, October 08, 2007 4:32 AM [GMT+1=CET],
 Patricia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 If you don't put jaws in your sys-tray does this mean when you alt
 tab your going to run into it that way?

 Don't know if I really caught what you are looking for, but by
 default
 JAWS is actually shown in an application window when 'alttabbing'
 to

 that
 window.

 Can you have jaws start up without it in the systems tray and
 without
 it showing up when you alt tab between applications?

 When being in the JAWS window, press the ALT key, when the Options
 menu
 will appear, and then arrow once to the right to open the Options
 tree
 view. The first option in the tree view should be 'Basics...'.
 Press
 Enter
 and tab to 'Run JAWS from System Tray' and check it by pressing the
 Space
 key. Then press Enter, close JAWS like other applications with ALT
 +
 F4
 and restart it. Now JAWS shouldn't appear as an application window
 on
 your
 screen anymore.

 Was it that what you were looking for?

 Best regards,

 -- 
 Jyrki Voutilainen
 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Skype ID: jvoutila


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws in System Tray

2007-10-09 Thread Sarah
and itt's quicker to arrow down through sub menues then hit alt, down arrow a 
few times and then enter, but that's just my 
opinion.
SAG
- Original Message - 
From: Baracco, Andrew W [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2007 2:13 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws in System Tray


The only advantage I can see is that if in the system tray, there will
be one less window in the ALT-TAB order.

Andy


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chris
Hallsworth
Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2007 2:07 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws in System Tray

Demo mode or otherwise, it's still personal preference whether to have
JAWS in the system tray or not.
Chris Hallsworth
BrailleNote mPower user
Website: www.chrishallsworth.co.nr
- Original Message -
From: Devona Abel [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Monday, October 08, 2007 4:01 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws in System Tray


I am running it demo mode what should I do?

Just wondering?

Devona
  - Original Message -
  From: Chris Hallsworth
  To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
  Sent: Monday, October 08, 2007 1:41 AM
  Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws in System Tray


  The benefit I can think of is that JAWS will not be in the alt tab
list,
so
  if you have multiple applications open you can alt tab to them without
alt
  tabbing to JAWS. I like JAWS in my system tray, but some people prefer
it
in
  the taskbar. It's just personal preference.
  Chris Hallsworth
  BrailleNote mPower user
  Website: www.chrishallsworth.co.nr
  - Original Message - 
  From: Jyrki Voutilainen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
  Sent: Monday, October 08, 2007 7:10 AM
  Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws in System Tray


  On Monday, October 08, 2007 6:47 AM [GMT+1=CET],
  Sarah [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   There really is no way to do what you are wanting to do. you haveto
   havve it run in the system tray or  in th etask list. SAG

  Oh, that's probably right, and now, after reading Patricia's mail
again, I
  also finally understand what she wants to do.

  What would be the real benefit of having JAWS invisible both in the
system
  tray and the task list?

  -- 
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  Skype ID: jvoutila


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws in System Tray

2007-10-09 Thread Moderator
Hi John,
Your post did not sound sarcastic,it is just the way that Jaws says it.
Something for everyone to keep in mind,
it's easy to mis-interpret what is said
in the written word when useing a screen reader.
It's better to pay attention to the content of the message,
rather than the way that Jaws says.
Just a thought.
David,
I'm back.
Richard Justice-list moderator
www.jaws-users.com

www.blind-computing.com
- Original Message - 
From: JOHN O CARVALHO [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2007 6:49 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws in System Tray


I really didn't mean to be so  sarcastic.
 Will you please except my apologies
 PEACE

 John Carvalho
 - Original Message - 
 From: Baracco, Andrew W [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2007 5:16 PM
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws in System Tray


 Hello John,

 I really do not like the tone of your post.  If you are not having the
 problem, that's great, but don't put me down because I am.

 Andy


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of JOHN O
 CARVALHO
 Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2007 1:40 PM
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws in System Tray

 I just went to my jaws in the system tray, I got all of my things.
 I don't know what you are talking about.

 PEACE

 John Carvalho
 - Original Message -
 From: Baracco, Andrew W [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2007 1:29 PM
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws in System Tray


 The only problem that I have found with running JAWS from the system
 tray is that i can't access all of the menus.  I can only access the
 first list of options.  I cannot, for example, access the utilities or
 help menu.  To do this, i have to leave the JAWS window intact.

 Andy


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rosemarie
 Chavarria
 Sent: Monday, October 08, 2007 11:26 AM
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws in System Tray

 Hi, Patricia.  I run Jaws from the system tray and it does work really
 great.
 Rosemarie

 - Original Message -
 From: Patricia [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Sent: Monday, October 08, 2007 9:02 AM
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws in System Tray


I agree the system tray is the best without a doubt, just in my
 pursuits of
 freeing up resources is how this thread came up in the first place..


 - Original Message - 
 From: Flor Lynch [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Sent: Monday, October 08, 2007 5:59 AM
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws in System Tray


 There is no benefit to be had from it being neither in the System
 Tray
 nor
 on the taskbar, if such were possible (which it isn't).  I like it
 in
 the
 system Tray, running in the background like some other apps (such as
 antivirus, Juice, etc.).  There are some options it is easier to
 change
 in
 JAWS by having it there, than having to go into the Config Manager
 with
 its
 slews of settings.

 - Original Message - 
 From: Patricia [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Sent: Monday, October 08, 2007 4:34 AM
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws in System Tray


 No. I want to have it out of the sys tray, I know how to do this..
 But if it's not in the sys tray then will it show when I alt tab
 around?
 I want it not in the sys tray and I don't want to alt tab and find
 it
 there
 either, but I do want it to start up at system bootup.
 Is this clear?
 - Original Message - 
From: Jyrki Voutilainen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Sent: Sunday, October 07, 2007 9:05 PM
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws in System Tray


 On Monday, October 08, 2007 4:32 AM [GMT+1=CET],
 Patricia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 If you don't put jaws in your sys-tray does this mean when you alt
 tab your going to run into it that way?

 Don't know if I really caught what you are looking for, but by
 default
 JAWS is actually shown in an application window when 'alttabbing'
 to

 that
 window.

 Can you have jaws start up without it in the systems tray and
 without
 it showing up when you alt tab between applications?

 When being in the JAWS window, press the ALT key, when the Options
 menu
 will appear, and then arrow once to the right to open the Options
 tree
 view. The first option in the tree view should be 'Basics...'.
 Press
 Enter
 and tab to 'Run JAWS from System Tray' and check it by pressing the
 Space
 key. Then press Enter, close JAWS like other applications with ALT
 +
 F4
 and restart it. Now JAWS shouldn't appear as an application window
 on
 your
 screen anymore.

 Was it that what you were looking for?

 Best regards,

 -- 
 Jyrki Voutilainen
 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Skype ID: jvoutila


 Visit the JAWS Users List home page at:
 http

Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws in System Tray

2007-10-08 Thread Jyrki Voutilainen
On Monday, October 08, 2007 6:47 AM [GMT+1=CET],
Sarah [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 There really is no way to do what you are wanting to do. you haveto
 havve it run in the system tray or  in th etask list. SAG

Oh, that's probably right, and now, after reading Patricia's mail again, I 
also finally understand what she wants to do.

What would be the real benefit of having JAWS invisible both in the system 
tray and the task list?

-- 
Jyrki Voutilainen
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Skype ID: jvoutila 


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws in System Tray

2007-10-08 Thread Chris Hallsworth
The benefit I can think of is that JAWS will not be in the alt tab list, so 
if you have multiple applications open you can alt tab to them without alt 
tabbing to JAWS. I like JAWS in my system tray, but some people prefer it in 
the taskbar. It's just personal preference.
Chris Hallsworth
BrailleNote mPower user
Website: www.chrishallsworth.co.nr
- Original Message - 
From: Jyrki Voutilainen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Monday, October 08, 2007 7:10 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws in System Tray


On Monday, October 08, 2007 6:47 AM [GMT+1=CET],
Sarah [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 There really is no way to do what you are wanting to do. you haveto
 havve it run in the system tray or  in th etask list. SAG

Oh, that's probably right, and now, after reading Patricia's mail again, I
also finally understand what she wants to do.

What would be the real benefit of having JAWS invisible both in the system
tray and the task list?

-- 
Jyrki Voutilainen
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Skype ID: jvoutila


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws in System Tray

2007-10-08 Thread Chris Hallsworth
Yeah, but you can't do that. You either have to have JAWS in the system tray 
or the taskbar.
Chris Hallsworth
BrailleNote mPower user
Website: www.chrishallsworth.co.nr
- Original Message - 
From: Patricia [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Monday, October 08, 2007 4:34 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws in System Tray


No. I want to have it out of the sys tray, I know how to do this..
But if it's not in the sys tray then will it show when I alt tab around?
I want it not in the sys tray and I don't want to alt tab and find it there
either, but I do want it to start up at system bootup.
Is this clear?
- Original Message - 
From: Jyrki Voutilainen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Sunday, October 07, 2007 9:05 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws in System Tray


 On Monday, October 08, 2007 4:32 AM [GMT+1=CET],
 Patricia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 If you don't put jaws in your sys-tray does this mean when you alt
 tab your going to run into it that way?

 Don't know if I really caught what you are looking for, but by default
 JAWS is actually shown in an application window when 'alttabbing' to that
 window.

 Can you have jaws start up without it in the systems tray and without
 it showing up when you alt tab between applications?

 When being in the JAWS window, press the ALT key, when the Options menu
 will appear, and then arrow once to the right to open the Options tree
 view. The first option in the tree view should be 'Basics...'. Press Enter
 and tab to 'Run JAWS from System Tray' and check it by pressing the Space
 key. Then press Enter, close JAWS like other applications with ALT + F4
 and restart it. Now JAWS shouldn't appear as an application window on your
 screen anymore.

 Was it that what you were looking for?

 Best regards,

 -- 
 Jyrki Voutilainen
 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Skype ID: jvoutila


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws in System Tray

2007-10-08 Thread Jyrki Voutilainen
On Monday, October 08, 2007 9:41 AM [GMT+1=CET],
Chris Hallsworth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 The benefit I can think of is that JAWS will not be in the alt tab
 list, so if you have multiple applications open you can alt tab to
 them without alt tabbing to JAWS. I like JAWS in my system tray, but
 some people prefer it in the taskbar. It's just personal preference.

You are very right, and I prefer to like JAWS running from the system tray 
too, and just for avoiding alt tabbing to it when having multiple 
applications open. But as I've understood, now JAWS was wantid to be 
non-visible both in the system tray and the task bar, and that's why I was 
wondering what the benefits of that should be. But avoiding JAWS to appear 
on the task bar is a *very great* feature, and especially for those of us 
who often run many applications simultaneously. Having JAWS running from 
the system tray would be quite frustrating in these cases!

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws in System Tray

2007-10-08 Thread Flor Lynch
There is no benefit to be had from it being neither in the System Tray nor 
on the taskbar, if such were possible (which it isn't).  I like it in the 
system Tray, running in the background like some other apps (such as 
antivirus, Juice, etc.).  There are some options it is easier to change in 
JAWS by having it there, than having to go into the Config Manager with its 
slews of settings.

- Original Message - 
From: Patricia [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Monday, October 08, 2007 4:34 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws in System Tray


No. I want to have it out of the sys tray, I know how to do this..
But if it's not in the sys tray then will it show when I alt tab around?
I want it not in the sys tray and I don't want to alt tab and find it there
either, but I do want it to start up at system bootup.
Is this clear?
- Original Message - 
From: Jyrki Voutilainen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Sunday, October 07, 2007 9:05 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws in System Tray


 On Monday, October 08, 2007 4:32 AM [GMT+1=CET],
 Patricia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 If you don't put jaws in your sys-tray does this mean when you alt
 tab your going to run into it that way?

 Don't know if I really caught what you are looking for, but by default
 JAWS is actually shown in an application window when 'alttabbing' to that
 window.

 Can you have jaws start up without it in the systems tray and without
 it showing up when you alt tab between applications?

 When being in the JAWS window, press the ALT key, when the Options menu
 will appear, and then arrow once to the right to open the Options tree
 view. The first option in the tree view should be 'Basics...'. Press Enter
 and tab to 'Run JAWS from System Tray' and check it by pressing the Space
 key. Then press Enter, close JAWS like other applications with ALT + F4
 and restart it. Now JAWS shouldn't appear as an application window on your
 screen anymore.

 Was it that what you were looking for?

 Best regards,

 -- 
 Jyrki Voutilainen
 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Skype ID: jvoutila


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws in System Tray

2007-10-08 Thread Michael A. Tisdale
Hi Patricia,

JAWS has to reside in one of the two places when loaded.

Michael
 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Patricia
Sent: Sunday, October 07, 2007 8:33 PM
To: jaws list
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Jaws in System Tray

If you don't put jaws in your sys-tray does this mean when you alt tab your 
going to run into it that way?
Can you have jaws start up without it in the systems tray and without it 
showing up when you alt tab between applications?

Thanks,

Patricia 


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws in System Tray

2007-10-08 Thread Devona Abel
I am running it demo mode what should I do?

Just wondering?

Devona
  - Original Message - 
  From: Chris Hallsworth 
  To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com 
  Sent: Monday, October 08, 2007 1:41 AM
  Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws in System Tray


  The benefit I can think of is that JAWS will not be in the alt tab list, so 
  if you have multiple applications open you can alt tab to them without alt 
  tabbing to JAWS. I like JAWS in my system tray, but some people prefer it in 
  the taskbar. It's just personal preference.
  Chris Hallsworth
  BrailleNote mPower user
  Website: www.chrishallsworth.co.nr
  - Original Message - 
  From: Jyrki Voutilainen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
  Sent: Monday, October 08, 2007 7:10 AM
  Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws in System Tray


  On Monday, October 08, 2007 6:47 AM [GMT+1=CET],
  Sarah [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   There really is no way to do what you are wanting to do. you haveto
   havve it run in the system tray or  in th etask list. SAG

  Oh, that's probably right, and now, after reading Patricia's mail again, I
  also finally understand what she wants to do.

  What would be the real benefit of having JAWS invisible both in the system
  tray and the task list?

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws in System Tray

2007-10-08 Thread Patricia
alright then I keep in the sys-tray...
- Original Message - 
From: Chris Hallsworth [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Monday, October 08, 2007 1:47 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws in System Tray


 Yeah, but you can't do that. You either have to have JAWS in the system 
 tray
 or the taskbar.
 Chris Hallsworth
 BrailleNote mPower user
 Website: www.chrishallsworth.co.nr
 - Original Message - 
 From: Patricia [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Sent: Monday, October 08, 2007 4:34 AM
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws in System Tray


 No. I want to have it out of the sys tray, I know how to do this..
 But if it's not in the sys tray then will it show when I alt tab around?
 I want it not in the sys tray and I don't want to alt tab and find it 
 there
 either, but I do want it to start up at system bootup.
 Is this clear?
 - Original Message - 
 From: Jyrki Voutilainen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Sent: Sunday, October 07, 2007 9:05 PM
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws in System Tray


 On Monday, October 08, 2007 4:32 AM [GMT+1=CET],
 Patricia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 If you don't put jaws in your sys-tray does this mean when you alt
 tab your going to run into it that way?

 Don't know if I really caught what you are looking for, but by default
 JAWS is actually shown in an application window when 'alttabbing' to that
 window.

 Can you have jaws start up without it in the systems tray and without
 it showing up when you alt tab between applications?

 When being in the JAWS window, press the ALT key, when the Options menu
 will appear, and then arrow once to the right to open the Options tree
 view. The first option in the tree view should be 'Basics...'. Press 
 Enter
 and tab to 'Run JAWS from System Tray' and check it by pressing the Space
 key. Then press Enter, close JAWS like other applications with ALT + F4
 and restart it. Now JAWS shouldn't appear as an application window on 
 your
 screen anymore.

 Was it that what you were looking for?

 Best regards,

 -- 
 Jyrki Voutilainen
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 Skype ID: jvoutila


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws in System Tray

2007-10-08 Thread Patricia
I agree the system tray is the best without a doubt, just in my pursuits of 
freeing up resources is how this thread came up in the first place..


- Original Message - 
From: Flor Lynch [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Monday, October 08, 2007 5:59 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws in System Tray


 There is no benefit to be had from it being neither in the System Tray nor
 on the taskbar, if such were possible (which it isn't).  I like it in the
 system Tray, running in the background like some other apps (such as
 antivirus, Juice, etc.).  There are some options it is easier to change in
 JAWS by having it there, than having to go into the Config Manager with 
 its
 slews of settings.

 - Original Message - 
 From: Patricia [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Sent: Monday, October 08, 2007 4:34 AM
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws in System Tray


 No. I want to have it out of the sys tray, I know how to do this..
 But if it's not in the sys tray then will it show when I alt tab around?
 I want it not in the sys tray and I don't want to alt tab and find it 
 there
 either, but I do want it to start up at system bootup.
 Is this clear?
 - Original Message - 
From: Jyrki Voutilainen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Sent: Sunday, October 07, 2007 9:05 PM
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws in System Tray


 On Monday, October 08, 2007 4:32 AM [GMT+1=CET],
 Patricia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 If you don't put jaws in your sys-tray does this mean when you alt
 tab your going to run into it that way?

 Don't know if I really caught what you are looking for, but by default
 JAWS is actually shown in an application window when 'alttabbing' to that
 window.

 Can you have jaws start up without it in the systems tray and without
 it showing up when you alt tab between applications?

 When being in the JAWS window, press the ALT key, when the Options menu
 will appear, and then arrow once to the right to open the Options tree
 view. The first option in the tree view should be 'Basics...'. Press 
 Enter
 and tab to 'Run JAWS from System Tray' and check it by pressing the Space
 key. Then press Enter, close JAWS like other applications with ALT + F4
 and restart it. Now JAWS shouldn't appear as an application window on 
 your
 screen anymore.

 Was it that what you were looking for?

 Best regards,

 -- 
 Jyrki Voutilainen
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 Skype ID: jvoutila


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws in System Tray

2007-10-08 Thread Patricia
This format of replied emails personally is annoying to me. Why are some 
this way and others another?
- Original Message - 
From: Jyrki Voutilainen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Monday, October 08, 2007 4:50 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws in System Tray


 On Monday, October 08, 2007 9:41 AM [GMT+1=CET],
 Chris Hallsworth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 The benefit I can think of is that JAWS will not be in the alt tab
 list, so if you have multiple applications open you can alt tab to
 them without alt tabbing to JAWS. I like JAWS in my system tray, but
 some people prefer it in the taskbar. It's just personal preference.

 You are very right, and I prefer to like JAWS running from the system tray
 too, and just for avoiding alt tabbing to it when having multiple
 applications open. But as I've understood, now JAWS was wantid to be
 non-visible both in the system tray and the task bar, and that's why I was
 wondering what the benefits of that should be. But avoiding JAWS to appear
 on the task bar is a *very great* feature, and especially for those of us
 who often run many applications simultaneously. Having JAWS running from
 the system tray would be quite frustrating in these cases!

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws in System Tray

2007-10-08 Thread Patricia
Thanks. Just it doesn't show in the msconfig list and since it resides in 
the sys tray I guess I just figured any program that was there also was in 
the list of msconfig...
- Original Message - 
From: Michael A. Tisdale [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Monday, October 08, 2007 8:08 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws in System Tray


 Hi Patricia,

 JAWS has to reside in one of the two places when loaded.

 Michael


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Patricia
 Sent: Sunday, October 07, 2007 8:33 PM
 To: jaws list
 Subject: [JAWS-Users] Jaws in System Tray

 If you don't put jaws in your sys-tray does this mean when you alt tab 
 your
 going to run into it that way?
 Can you have jaws start up without it in the systems tray and without it
 showing up when you alt tab between applications?

 Thanks,

 Patricia


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws in System Tray

2007-10-08 Thread Tim
So you get all the mail and the head ache too?

At 12:01 PM 10/8/2007, you wrote:
This format of replied emails personally is annoying to me. Why are some
this way and others another?
- Original Message -
From: Jyrki Voutilainen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Monday, October 08, 2007 4:50 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws in System Tray


  On Monday, October 08, 2007 9:41 AM [GMT+1=CET],
  Chris Hallsworth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  The benefit I can think of is that JAWS will not be in the alt tab
  list, so if you have multiple applications open you can alt tab to
  them without alt tabbing to JAWS. I like JAWS in my system tray, but
  some people prefer it in the taskbar. It's just personal preference.
 
  You are very right, and I prefer to like JAWS running from the system tray
  too, and just for avoiding alt tabbing to it when having multiple
  applications open. But as I've understood, now JAWS was wantid to be
  non-visible both in the system tray and the task bar, and that's why I was
  wondering what the benefits of that should be. But avoiding JAWS to appear
  on the task bar is a *very great* feature, and especially for those of us
  who often run many applications simultaneously. Having JAWS running from
  the system tray would be quite frustrating in these cases!
 
  --
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  Skype ID: jvoutila
 
 
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws in System Tray

2007-10-08 Thread Tim
Well on that thought, its better in the system tray then on the task 
bar. The tray takes up less space and is easier to get to.

At 12:02 PM 10/8/2007, you wrote:
I agree the system tray is the best without a doubt, just in my pursuits of
freeing up resources is how this thread came up in the first place..


- Original Message -
From: Flor Lynch [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Monday, October 08, 2007 5:59 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws in System Tray


  There is no benefit to be had from it being neither in the System Tray nor
  on the taskbar, if such were possible (which it isn't).  I like it in the
  system Tray, running in the background like some other apps (such as
  antivirus, Juice, etc.).  There are some options it is easier to change in
  JAWS by having it there, than having to go into the Config Manager with
  its
  slews of settings.
 
  - Original Message -
  From: Patricia [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
  Sent: Monday, October 08, 2007 4:34 AM
  Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws in System Tray
 
 
  No. I want to have it out of the sys tray, I know how to do this..
  But if it's not in the sys tray then will it show when I alt tab around?
  I want it not in the sys tray and I don't want to alt tab and find it
  there
  either, but I do want it to start up at system bootup.
  Is this clear?
  - Original Message -
 From: Jyrki Voutilainen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
  Sent: Sunday, October 07, 2007 9:05 PM
  Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws in System Tray
 
 
  On Monday, October 08, 2007 4:32 AM [GMT+1=CET],
  Patricia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  If you don't put jaws in your sys-tray does this mean when you alt
  tab your going to run into it that way?
 
  Don't know if I really caught what you are looking for, but by default
  JAWS is actually shown in an application window when 'alttabbing' to that
  window.
 
  Can you have jaws start up without it in the systems tray and without
  it showing up when you alt tab between applications?
 
  When being in the JAWS window, press the ALT key, when the Options menu
  will appear, and then arrow once to the right to open the Options tree
  view. The first option in the tree view should be 'Basics...'. Press
  Enter
  and tab to 'Run JAWS from System Tray' and check it by pressing the Space
  key. Then press Enter, close JAWS like other applications with ALT + F4
  and restart it. Now JAWS shouldn't appear as an application window on
  your
  screen anymore.
 
  Was it that what you were looking for?
 
  Best regards,
 
  --
  Jyrki Voutilainen
  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Skype ID: jvoutila
 
 
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws in System Tray

2007-10-08 Thread Patricia
Yeh so do I...
- Original Message - 
From: Rosemarie Chavarria [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Monday, October 08, 2007 1:25 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws in System Tray


 Hi, Patricia.  I run Jaws from the system tray and it does work really
 great.
 Rosemarie

 - Original Message - 
 From: Patricia [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Sent: Monday, October 08, 2007 9:02 AM
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws in System Tray


I agree the system tray is the best without a doubt, just in my pursuits 
of
 freeing up resources is how this thread came up in the first place..


 - Original Message - 
 From: Flor Lynch [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Sent: Monday, October 08, 2007 5:59 AM
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws in System Tray


 There is no benefit to be had from it being neither in the System Tray
 nor
 on the taskbar, if such were possible (which it isn't).  I like it in 
 the
 system Tray, running in the background like some other apps (such as
 antivirus, Juice, etc.).  There are some options it is easier to change
 in
 JAWS by having it there, than having to go into the Config Manager with
 its
 slews of settings.

 - Original Message - 
 From: Patricia [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Sent: Monday, October 08, 2007 4:34 AM
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws in System Tray


 No. I want to have it out of the sys tray, I know how to do this..
 But if it's not in the sys tray then will it show when I alt tab around?
 I want it not in the sys tray and I don't want to alt tab and find it
 there
 either, but I do want it to start up at system bootup.
 Is this clear?
 - Original Message - 
From: Jyrki Voutilainen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Sent: Sunday, October 07, 2007 9:05 PM
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws in System Tray


 On Monday, October 08, 2007 4:32 AM [GMT+1=CET],
 Patricia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 If you don't put jaws in your sys-tray does this mean when you alt
 tab your going to run into it that way?

 Don't know if I really caught what you are looking for, but by default
 JAWS is actually shown in an application window when 'alttabbing' to
 that
 window.

 Can you have jaws start up without it in the systems tray and without
 it showing up when you alt tab between applications?

 When being in the JAWS window, press the ALT key, when the Options menu
 will appear, and then arrow once to the right to open the Options tree
 view. The first option in the tree view should be 'Basics...'. Press
 Enter
 and tab to 'Run JAWS from System Tray' and check it by pressing the
 Space
 key. Then press Enter, close JAWS like other applications with ALT + F4
 and restart it. Now JAWS shouldn't appear as an application window on
 your
 screen anymore.

 Was it that what you were looking for?

 Best regards,

 -- 
 Jyrki Voutilainen
 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Skype ID: jvoutila


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws in System Tray

2007-10-08 Thread Patricia
Apparently so...I received all the prior replies before I read what this 
sender said...
- Original Message - 
From: Tim [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Monday, October 08, 2007 1:26 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws in System Tray


 So you get all the mail and the head ache too?

 At 12:01 PM 10/8/2007, you wrote:
This format of replied emails personally is annoying to me. Why are some
this way and others another?
- Original Message -
From: Jyrki Voutilainen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Monday, October 08, 2007 4:50 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws in System Tray


  On Monday, October 08, 2007 9:41 AM [GMT+1=CET],
  Chris Hallsworth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  The benefit I can think of is that JAWS will not be in the alt tab
  list, so if you have multiple applications open you can alt tab to
  them without alt tabbing to JAWS. I like JAWS in my system tray, but
  some people prefer it in the taskbar. It's just personal preference.
 
  You are very right, and I prefer to like JAWS running from the system 
  tray
  too, and just for avoiding alt tabbing to it when having multiple
  applications open. But as I've understood, now JAWS was wantid to be
  non-visible both in the system tray and the task bar, and that's why I 
  was
  wondering what the benefits of that should be. But avoiding JAWS to 
  appear
  on the task bar is a *very great* feature, and especially for those of 
  us
  who often run many applications simultaneously. Having JAWS running 
  from
  the system tray would be quite frustrating in these cases!
 
  --
  Jyrki Voutilainen
  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Skype ID: jvoutila
 
 
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws in System Tray

2007-10-08 Thread Patricia
your right as rain,lol
- Original Message - 
From: Tim [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Monday, October 08, 2007 1:27 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws in System Tray


 Well on that thought, its better in the system tray then on the task
 bar. The tray takes up less space and is easier to get to.

 At 12:02 PM 10/8/2007, you wrote:
I agree the system tray is the best without a doubt, just in my pursuits 
of
freeing up resources is how this thread came up in the first place..


- Original Message -
From: Flor Lynch [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Monday, October 08, 2007 5:59 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws in System Tray


  There is no benefit to be had from it being neither in the System Tray 
  nor
  on the taskbar, if such were possible (which it isn't).  I like it in 
  the
  system Tray, running in the background like some other apps (such as
  antivirus, Juice, etc.).  There are some options it is easier to change 
  in
  JAWS by having it there, than having to go into the Config Manager with
  its
  slews of settings.
 
  - Original Message -
  From: Patricia [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
  Sent: Monday, October 08, 2007 4:34 AM
  Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws in System Tray
 
 
  No. I want to have it out of the sys tray, I know how to do this..
  But if it's not in the sys tray then will it show when I alt tab 
  around?
  I want it not in the sys tray and I don't want to alt tab and find it
  there
  either, but I do want it to start up at system bootup.
  Is this clear?
  - Original Message -
 From: Jyrki Voutilainen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
  Sent: Sunday, October 07, 2007 9:05 PM
  Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws in System Tray
 
 
  On Monday, October 08, 2007 4:32 AM [GMT+1=CET],
  Patricia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  If you don't put jaws in your sys-tray does this mean when you alt
  tab your going to run into it that way?
 
  Don't know if I really caught what you are looking for, but by default
  JAWS is actually shown in an application window when 'alttabbing' to 
  that
  window.
 
  Can you have jaws start up without it in the systems tray and without
  it showing up when you alt tab between applications?
 
  When being in the JAWS window, press the ALT key, when the Options 
  menu
  will appear, and then arrow once to the right to open the Options tree
  view. The first option in the tree view should be 'Basics...'. Press
  Enter
  and tab to 'Run JAWS from System Tray' and check it by pressing the 
  Space
  key. Then press Enter, close JAWS like other applications with ALT + 
  F4
  and restart it. Now JAWS shouldn't appear as an application window on
  your
  screen anymore.
 
  Was it that what you were looking for?
 
  Best regards,
 
  --
  Jyrki Voutilainen
  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Skype ID: jvoutila
 
 
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws in System Tray

2007-10-08 Thread Devona Abel
It is not taking up resources by being system tray?

Devona
  - Original Message - 
  From: Patricia 
  To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com 
  Sent: Monday, October 08, 2007 11:02 AM
  Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws in System Tray


  I agree the system tray is the best without a doubt, just in my pursuits of 
  freeing up resources is how this thread came up in the first place..


  - Original Message - 
  From: Flor Lynch [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
  Sent: Monday, October 08, 2007 5:59 AM
  Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws in System Tray


   There is no benefit to be had from it being neither in the System Tray nor
   on the taskbar, if such were possible (which it isn't).  I like it in the
   system Tray, running in the background like some other apps (such as
   antivirus, Juice, etc.).  There are some options it is easier to change in
   JAWS by having it there, than having to go into the Config Manager with 
   its
   slews of settings.
  
   - Original Message - 
   From: Patricia [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
   Sent: Monday, October 08, 2007 4:34 AM
   Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws in System Tray
  
  
   No. I want to have it out of the sys tray, I know how to do this..
   But if it's not in the sys tray then will it show when I alt tab around?
   I want it not in the sys tray and I don't want to alt tab and find it 
   there
   either, but I do want it to start up at system bootup.
   Is this clear?
   - Original Message - 
  From: Jyrki Voutilainen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
   Sent: Sunday, October 07, 2007 9:05 PM
   Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws in System Tray
  
  
   On Monday, October 08, 2007 4:32 AM [GMT+1=CET],
   Patricia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   If you don't put jaws in your sys-tray does this mean when you alt
   tab your going to run into it that way?
  
   Don't know if I really caught what you are looking for, but by default
   JAWS is actually shown in an application window when 'alttabbing' to that
   window.
  
   Can you have jaws start up without it in the systems tray and without
   it showing up when you alt tab between applications?
  
   When being in the JAWS window, press the ALT key, when the Options menu
   will appear, and then arrow once to the right to open the Options tree
   view. The first option in the tree view should be 'Basics...'. Press 
   Enter
   and tab to 'Run JAWS from System Tray' and check it by pressing the Space
   key. Then press Enter, close JAWS like other applications with ALT + F4
   and restart it. Now JAWS shouldn't appear as an application window on 
   your
   screen anymore.
  
   Was it that what you were looking for?
  
   Best regards,
  
   -- 
   Jyrki Voutilainen
   mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Skype ID: jvoutila
  
  
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws in System Tray

2007-10-08 Thread Patricia
Probably, but I rather loose some than deal with running into it every time 
I alt tab...
- Original Message - 
From: Devona Abel [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Monday, October 08, 2007 2:51 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws in System Tray


 It is not taking up resources by being system tray?

 Devona
  - Original Message - 
  From: Patricia
  To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
  Sent: Monday, October 08, 2007 11:02 AM
  Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws in System Tray


  I agree the system tray is the best without a doubt, just in my pursuits 
 of
  freeing up resources is how this thread came up in the first place..


  - Original Message - 
  From: Flor Lynch [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
  Sent: Monday, October 08, 2007 5:59 AM
  Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws in System Tray


   There is no benefit to be had from it being neither in the System Tray 
 nor
   on the taskbar, if such were possible (which it isn't).  I like it in 
 the
   system Tray, running in the background like some other apps (such as
   antivirus, Juice, etc.).  There are some options it is easier to change 
 in
   JAWS by having it there, than having to go into the Config Manager with
   its
   slews of settings.
  
   - Original Message - 
   From: Patricia [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
   Sent: Monday, October 08, 2007 4:34 AM
   Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws in System Tray
  
  
   No. I want to have it out of the sys tray, I know how to do this..
   But if it's not in the sys tray then will it show when I alt tab 
 around?
   I want it not in the sys tray and I don't want to alt tab and find it
   there
   either, but I do want it to start up at system bootup.
   Is this clear?
   - Original Message - 
  From: Jyrki Voutilainen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
   Sent: Sunday, October 07, 2007 9:05 PM
   Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws in System Tray
  
  
   On Monday, October 08, 2007 4:32 AM [GMT+1=CET],
   Patricia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   If you don't put jaws in your sys-tray does this mean when you alt
   tab your going to run into it that way?
  
   Don't know if I really caught what you are looking for, but by default
   JAWS is actually shown in an application window when 'alttabbing' to 
 that
   window.
  
   Can you have jaws start up without it in the systems tray and without
   it showing up when you alt tab between applications?
  
   When being in the JAWS window, press the ALT key, when the Options 
 menu
   will appear, and then arrow once to the right to open the Options tree
   view. The first option in the tree view should be 'Basics...'. Press
   Enter
   and tab to 'Run JAWS from System Tray' and check it by pressing the 
 Space
   key. Then press Enter, close JAWS like other applications with ALT + 
 F4
   and restart it. Now JAWS shouldn't appear as an application window on
   your
   screen anymore.
  
   Was it that what you were looking for?
  
   Best regards,
  
   -- 
   Jyrki Voutilainen
   mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Skype ID: jvoutila
  
  
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws in System Tray

2007-10-08 Thread David A Ferrin
Yes it takes up resources no matter where it happens to be. Putting it in 
the system trey simply removes it from the alt tab order which for me works 
much better. It is a matter of personal choice is all.
David Ferrin
 www.jaws-users.com
- Original Message - 
From: Devona Abel [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Monday, October 08, 2007 3:51 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws in System Tray


It is not taking up resources by being system tray?

Devona
  - Original Message - 
  From: Patricia
  To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
  Sent: Monday, October 08, 2007 11:02 AM
  Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws in System Tray


  I agree the system tray is the best without a doubt, just in my pursuits 
of
  freeing up resources is how this thread came up in the first place..


  - Original Message - 
  From: Flor Lynch [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
  Sent: Monday, October 08, 2007 5:59 AM
  Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws in System Tray


   There is no benefit to be had from it being neither in the System Tray 
nor
   on the taskbar, if such were possible (which it isn't).  I like it in 
the
   system Tray, running in the background like some other apps (such as
   antivirus, Juice, etc.).  There are some options it is easier to change 
in
   JAWS by having it there, than having to go into the Config Manager with
   its
   slews of settings.
  
   - Original Message - 
   From: Patricia [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
   Sent: Monday, October 08, 2007 4:34 AM
   Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws in System Tray
  
  
   No. I want to have it out of the sys tray, I know how to do this..
   But if it's not in the sys tray then will it show when I alt tab around?
   I want it not in the sys tray and I don't want to alt tab and find it
   there
   either, but I do want it to start up at system bootup.
   Is this clear?
   - Original Message - 
  From: Jyrki Voutilainen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
   Sent: Sunday, October 07, 2007 9:05 PM
   Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws in System Tray
  
  
   On Monday, October 08, 2007 4:32 AM [GMT+1=CET],
   Patricia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   If you don't put jaws in your sys-tray does this mean when you alt
   tab your going to run into it that way?
  
   Don't know if I really caught what you are looking for, but by default
   JAWS is actually shown in an application window when 'alttabbing' to 
that
   window.
  
   Can you have jaws start up without it in the systems tray and without
   it showing up when you alt tab between applications?
  
   When being in the JAWS window, press the ALT key, when the Options menu
   will appear, and then arrow once to the right to open the Options tree
   view. The first option in the tree view should be 'Basics...'. Press
   Enter
   and tab to 'Run JAWS from System Tray' and check it by pressing the 
Space
   key. Then press Enter, close JAWS like other applications with ALT + F4
   and restart it. Now JAWS shouldn't appear as an application window on
   your
   screen anymore.
  
   Was it that what you were looking for?
  
   Best regards,
  
   -- 
   Jyrki Voutilainen
   mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Skype ID: jvoutila
  
  
   Visit the JAWS Users List home page at:
   http://www.jaws-users.com
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws in System Tray

2007-10-08 Thread Sharon
Wait a minute. I haven't been following all these threads, but something
David wrote caught my attention. If I could have it in the system tray, but
still have it start up automatically, then I'd have the best of what I
thought were two different worlds. Is this actually possible? Write me off
list if this is old hat; I haven't been following the conversation until
now.
Sharon

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of David A
Ferrin
Sent: Monday, October 08, 2007 4:37 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws in System Tray


Yes it takes up resources no matter where it happens to be. Putting it in
the system trey simply removes it from the alt tab order which for me works
much better. It is a matter of personal choice is all.
David Ferrin
 www.jaws-users.com
- Original Message -
From: Devona Abel [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Monday, October 08, 2007 3:51 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws in System Tray


It is not taking up resources by being system tray?

Devona
  - Original Message -
  From: Patricia
  To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
  Sent: Monday, October 08, 2007 11:02 AM
  Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws in System Tray


  I agree the system tray is the best without a doubt, just in my pursuits
of
  freeing up resources is how this thread came up in the first place..


  - Original Message -
  From: Flor Lynch [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
  Sent: Monday, October 08, 2007 5:59 AM
  Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws in System Tray


   There is no benefit to be had from it being neither in the System Tray
nor
   on the taskbar, if such were possible (which it isn't).  I like it in
the
   system Tray, running in the background like some other apps (such as
   antivirus, Juice, etc.).  There are some options it is easier to change
in
   JAWS by having it there, than having to go into the Config Manager with
   its
   slews of settings.
  
   - Original Message -
   From: Patricia [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
   Sent: Monday, October 08, 2007 4:34 AM
   Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws in System Tray
  
  
   No. I want to have it out of the sys tray, I know how to do this..
   But if it's not in the sys tray then will it show when I alt tab around?
   I want it not in the sys tray and I don't want to alt tab and find it
   there
   either, but I do want it to start up at system bootup.
   Is this clear?
   - Original Message -
  From: Jyrki Voutilainen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
   Sent: Sunday, October 07, 2007 9:05 PM
   Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws in System Tray
  
  
   On Monday, October 08, 2007 4:32 AM [GMT+1=CET],
   Patricia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   If you don't put jaws in your sys-tray does this mean when you alt
   tab your going to run into it that way?
  
   Don't know if I really caught what you are looking for, but by default
   JAWS is actually shown in an application window when 'alttabbing' to
that
   window.
  
   Can you have jaws start up without it in the systems tray and without
   it showing up when you alt tab between applications?
  
   When being in the JAWS window, press the ALT key, when the Options menu
   will appear, and then arrow once to the right to open the Options tree
   view. The first option in the tree view should be 'Basics...'. Press
   Enter
   and tab to 'Run JAWS from System Tray' and check it by pressing the
Space
   key. Then press Enter, close JAWS like other applications with ALT + F4
   and restart it. Now JAWS shouldn't appear as an application window on
   your
   screen anymore.
  
   Was it that what you were looking for?
  
   Best regards,
  
   --
   Jyrki Voutilainen
   mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Skype ID: jvoutila
  
  
   Visit the JAWS Users List home page at:
   http://www.jaws-users.com
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws in System Tray

2007-10-08 Thread David A Ferrin
Yes it is possible, in fact I've been doing it that way for several years 
already.
David Ferrin
 www.jaws-users.com
- Original Message - 
From: Sharon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Monday, October 08, 2007 6:03 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws in System Tray


Wait a minute. I haven't been following all these threads, but something
David wrote caught my attention. If I could have it in the system tray, but
still have it start up automatically, then I'd have the best of what I
thought were two different worlds. Is this actually possible? Write me off
list if this is old hat; I haven't been following the conversation until
now.
Sharon

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of David A
Ferrin
Sent: Monday, October 08, 2007 4:37 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws in System Tray


Yes it takes up resources no matter where it happens to be. Putting it in
the system trey simply removes it from the alt tab order which for me works
much better. It is a matter of personal choice is all.
David Ferrin
 www.jaws-users.com
- Original Message -
From: Devona Abel [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Monday, October 08, 2007 3:51 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws in System Tray


It is not taking up resources by being system tray?

Devona
  - Original Message -
  From: Patricia
  To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
  Sent: Monday, October 08, 2007 11:02 AM
  Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws in System Tray


  I agree the system tray is the best without a doubt, just in my pursuits
of
  freeing up resources is how this thread came up in the first place..


  - Original Message -
  From: Flor Lynch [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
  Sent: Monday, October 08, 2007 5:59 AM
  Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws in System Tray


   There is no benefit to be had from it being neither in the System Tray
nor
   on the taskbar, if such were possible (which it isn't).  I like it in
the
   system Tray, running in the background like some other apps (such as
   antivirus, Juice, etc.).  There are some options it is easier to change
in
   JAWS by having it there, than having to go into the Config Manager with
   its
   slews of settings.
  
   - Original Message -
   From: Patricia [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
   Sent: Monday, October 08, 2007 4:34 AM
   Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws in System Tray
  
  
   No. I want to have it out of the sys tray, I know how to do this..
   But if it's not in the sys tray then will it show when I alt tab around?
   I want it not in the sys tray and I don't want to alt tab and find it
   there
   either, but I do want it to start up at system bootup.
   Is this clear?
   - Original Message -
  From: Jyrki Voutilainen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
   Sent: Sunday, October 07, 2007 9:05 PM
   Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws in System Tray
  
  
   On Monday, October 08, 2007 4:32 AM [GMT+1=CET],
   Patricia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   If you don't put jaws in your sys-tray does this mean when you alt
   tab your going to run into it that way?
  
   Don't know if I really caught what you are looking for, but by default
   JAWS is actually shown in an application window when 'alttabbing' to
that
   window.
  
   Can you have jaws start up without it in the systems tray and without
   it showing up when you alt tab between applications?
  
   When being in the JAWS window, press the ALT key, when the Options menu
   will appear, and then arrow once to the right to open the Options tree
   view. The first option in the tree view should be 'Basics...'. Press
   Enter
   and tab to 'Run JAWS from System Tray' and check it by pressing the
Space
   key. Then press Enter, close JAWS like other applications with ALT + F4
   and restart it. Now JAWS shouldn't appear as an application window on
   your
   screen anymore.
  
   Was it that what you were looking for?
  
   Best regards,
  
   --
   Jyrki Voutilainen
   mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Skype ID: jvoutila
  
  
   Visit the JAWS Users List home page at:
   http://www.jaws-users.com
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[JAWS-Users] Jaws in System Tray

2007-10-07 Thread Patricia
If you don't put jaws in your sys-tray does this mean when you alt tab your 
going to run into it that way?
Can you have jaws start up without it in the systems tray and without it 
showing up when you alt tab between applications?

Thanks,

Patricia 


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws in System Tray

2007-10-07 Thread Jyrki Voutilainen
On Monday, October 08, 2007 4:32 AM [GMT+1=CET],
Patricia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 If you don't put jaws in your sys-tray does this mean when you alt
 tab your going to run into it that way?

Don't know if I really caught what you are looking for, but by default 
JAWS is actually shown in an application window when 'alttabbing' to that 
window.

 Can you have jaws start up without it in the systems tray and without
 it showing up when you alt tab between applications?

When being in the JAWS window, press the ALT key, when the Options menu 
will appear, and then arrow once to the right to open the Options tree 
view. The first option in the tree view should be 'Basics...'. Press Enter 
and tab to 'Run JAWS from System Tray' and check it by pressing the Space 
key. Then press Enter, close JAWS like other applications with ALT + F4 
and restart it. Now JAWS shouldn't appear as an application window on your 
screen anymore.

Was it that what you were looking for?

Best regards,

-- 
Jyrki Voutilainen
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws in System Tray

2007-10-07 Thread Patricia
No. I want to have it out of the sys tray, I know how to do this..
But if it's not in the sys tray then will it show when I alt tab around?
I want it not in the sys tray and I don't want to alt tab and find it there 
either, but I do want it to start up at system bootup.
Is this clear?
- Original Message - 
From: Jyrki Voutilainen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Sunday, October 07, 2007 9:05 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws in System Tray


 On Monday, October 08, 2007 4:32 AM [GMT+1=CET],
 Patricia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 If you don't put jaws in your sys-tray does this mean when you alt
 tab your going to run into it that way?

 Don't know if I really caught what you are looking for, but by default
 JAWS is actually shown in an application window when 'alttabbing' to that
 window.

 Can you have jaws start up without it in the systems tray and without
 it showing up when you alt tab between applications?

 When being in the JAWS window, press the ALT key, when the Options menu
 will appear, and then arrow once to the right to open the Options tree
 view. The first option in the tree view should be 'Basics...'. Press Enter
 and tab to 'Run JAWS from System Tray' and check it by pressing the Space
 key. Then press Enter, close JAWS like other applications with ALT + F4
 and restart it. Now JAWS shouldn't appear as an application window on your
 screen anymore.

 Was it that what you were looking for?

 Best regards,

 -- 
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 Skype ID: jvoutila


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws in System Tray

2007-10-07 Thread Sarah
There really is no way to do what you are wanting to do. you haveto havve it 
run in the system tray or  in th etask list.
SAG
- Original Message - 
From: Patricia [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Sunday, October 07, 2007 8:34 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws in System Tray


No. I want to have it out of the sys tray, I know how to do this..
But if it's not in the sys tray then will it show when I alt tab around?
I want it not in the sys tray and I don't want to alt tab and find it there 
either, but I do want it to start up at system bootup.
Is this clear?
- Original Message - 
From: Jyrki Voutilainen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Sunday, October 07, 2007 9:05 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws in System Tray


 On Monday, October 08, 2007 4:32 AM [GMT+1=CET],
 Patricia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 If you don't put jaws in your sys-tray does this mean when you alt
 tab your going to run into it that way?

 Don't know if I really caught what you are looking for, but by default
 JAWS is actually shown in an application window when 'alttabbing' to that
 window.

 Can you have jaws start up without it in the systems tray and without
 it showing up when you alt tab between applications?

 When being in the JAWS window, press the ALT key, when the Options menu
 will appear, and then arrow once to the right to open the Options tree
 view. The first option in the tree view should be 'Basics...'. Press Enter
 and tab to 'Run JAWS from System Tray' and check it by pressing the Space
 key. Then press Enter, close JAWS like other applications with ALT + F4
 and restart it. Now JAWS shouldn't appear as an application window on your
 screen anymore.

 Was it that what you were looking for?

 Best regards,

 -- 
 Jyrki Voutilainen
 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Skype ID: jvoutila


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