Re: [JAWS-Users] Laptop crashing

2018-06-17 Thread Sharon S
Hi, as I said in my message it was Jaws 2018 but I'm not sure on the build
version. It was whatever was the last build before the latest update. I've
been using the laptop allot on battery lately with no issues so hopefully it
is fixed. The annoying thing was that this is a brand new laptop so it
shouldn't be having any major issues.

Well I'm crossing my fingers that the issue is now solved.
>From Shaz.


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Valiant8086
Sent: Friday, June 15, 2018 11:39 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Laptop crashing

Hi.


Do you know exactly which version of JAWS you were running? It might be
possible that you were running the one that had a nice bug where it always
used 100 percent of which ever cpu thread it was executing on all of the
time. It was 17 point something, if you know what it was we can maybe figure
out if that was the one. In any case, if that's what was going on, I think
it might be possible that your battery wasn't providing enough power to
execute that fast and the board undervoltaged. 
this usually should happen when the battery is very low, and never on a
fairly new battery a year or newer, but older batteries that may not be
putting out as many volts as they should could be not providing enough watts
for the system to extend power to all components when the cpu wants more
than a certain amount.


You probably would know your computer now runs cooler than it used to, it
should be very obvious if that's a possible explanation.


To clerify something, it actually turns off, just pressing power starts 
it in the boot up process?


Another possibility could be that you put the laptop on your lap in a 
certain way or you fidget (no offense intended here) in some way that's 
exposing a short somewhere that your brother didn't duplicate. My Lenovo 
yoga 2 pro used to take out my WiFi network not just for itself, but for 
everybody, if I picked it up by squeezing the right edge in one hand. I 
had to get used to holding it with two hands or laying it across an arm 
or what ever. So saying, that actually isn't out of the realm of 
possibility.


To answer your last question, no, this has never happened to me.


Cheers:
Aaron Spears, A.K.A. valiant8086. General Partner - Valiant Galaxy
Associates "We make Very Good Audiogames for the blind community -
http://valiantGalaxy.com;



On 6/12/2018 11:53 AM, Sharon S wrote:
> Hi all, I have a acer laptop running windows 10 and Jaws 2018. I have been
> having an issue where my computer will turn completely off with no warning
> when running on battery. When I restart the laptop the battery level is
> always pretty high so it isn't a battery issue. I took note of when this
was
> happening so my brother could look at the logs and see what is happening.
> Well as far as he could see there was no reason for it. Then my brother
> played with my laptop for awhile without Jaws on and the laptop didn't
shut
> down. He gave it back to me and I turned Jaws on and one minute later it
had
> turned off. So this led us to think it was something to do with Jaws but I
> couldn't see why that was causing this. I had an upgrade I hadn't done on
my
> Jaws so I did that and I haven't had the laptop shut down on me since. I'm
> hoping it is totally fixed but does anyone know why this would have been
> happening? Has it happened to anyone else?
>
>   
>
> Thanks.
>
>  From Shaz.
>
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> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Laptop crashing

2018-06-15 Thread Valiant8086

Hi.


Do you know exactly which version of JAWS you were running? It might be 
possible that you were running the one that had a nice bug where it 
always used 100 percent of which ever cpu thread it was executing on all 
of the time. It was 17 point something, if you know what it was we can 
maybe figure out if that was the one. In any case, if that's what was 
going on, I think it might be possible that your battery wasn't 
providing enough power to execute that fast and the board undervoltaged. 
this usually should happen when the battery is very low, and never on a 
fairly new battery a year or newer, but older batteries that may not be 
putting out as many volts as they should could be not providing enough 
watts for the system to extend power to all components when the cpu 
wants more than a certain amount.



You probably would know your computer now runs cooler than it used to, 
it should be very obvious if that's a possible explanation.



To clerify something, it actually turns off, just pressing power starts 
it in the boot up process?



Another possibility could be that you put the laptop on your lap in a 
certain way or you fidget (no offense intended here) in some way that's 
exposing a short somewhere that your brother didn't duplicate. My Lenovo 
yoga 2 pro used to take out my WiFi network not just for itself, but for 
everybody, if I picked it up by squeezing the right edge in one hand. I 
had to get used to holding it with two hands or laying it across an arm 
or what ever. So saying, that actually isn't out of the realm of 
possibility.



To answer your last question, no, this has never happened to me.


Cheers:
Aaron Spears, A.K.A. valiant8086. General Partner - Valiant Galaxy Associates "We 
make Very Good Audiogames for the blind community - http://valiantGalaxy.com;



On 6/12/2018 11:53 AM, Sharon S wrote:

Hi all, I have a acer laptop running windows 10 and Jaws 2018. I have been
having an issue where my computer will turn completely off with no warning
when running on battery. When I restart the laptop the battery level is
always pretty high so it isn't a battery issue. I took note of when this was
happening so my brother could look at the logs and see what is happening.
Well as far as he could see there was no reason for it. Then my brother
played with my laptop for awhile without Jaws on and the laptop didn't shut
down. He gave it back to me and I turned Jaws on and one minute later it had
turned off. So this led us to think it was something to do with Jaws but I
couldn't see why that was causing this. I had an upgrade I hadn't done on my
Jaws so I did that and I haven't had the laptop shut down on me since. I'm
hoping it is totally fixed but does anyone know why this would have been
happening? Has it happened to anyone else?

  


Thanks.

 From Shaz.

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[JAWS-Users] Laptop crashing

2018-06-12 Thread Sharon S
Hi all, I have a acer laptop running windows 10 and Jaws 2018. I have been
having an issue where my computer will turn completely off with no warning
when running on battery. When I restart the laptop the battery level is
always pretty high so it isn't a battery issue. I took note of when this was
happening so my brother could look at the logs and see what is happening.
Well as far as he could see there was no reason for it. Then my brother
played with my laptop for awhile without Jaws on and the laptop didn't shut
down. He gave it back to me and I turned Jaws on and one minute later it had
turned off. So this led us to think it was something to do with Jaws but I
couldn't see why that was causing this. I had an upgrade I hadn't done on my
Jaws so I did that and I haven't had the laptop shut down on me since. I'm
hoping it is totally fixed but does anyone know why this would have been
happening? Has it happened to anyone else?

 

Thanks.

>From Shaz.

For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/