Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 10 Tandem
I agree, haven't used it in my support / training but feel it's going to make my life a lot easier at times when I can make use of Tandem. Rick - Original Message - From: David Ferrin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2008 1:04 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 10 Tandem Well I can tell you it's a real time saver. David Ferrin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Think like a man of action, and act like a man of thought. - Original Message - From: Alex Stone [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2008 12:36 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [SPAM] Re: Jaws 10 Tandem Makes perfect sense to me! There's no point in trying to explain to you, you won't listen! Alex -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Larry Stansifer Sent: 06 November 2008 02:09 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [SPAM] Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 10 Tandem Alex, Your post makes absolutely no sense. *explain further if you can* -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alex Stone Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2008 1:27 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 10 Tandem I love it when people come on e-mail lists with no Intention of listening to anything anyone says! Alex -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Larry Stansifer Sent: 04 November 2008 20:04 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 10 Tandem Hi folks, For those of you who have been through the beta cycle with Jaws 10, is there any way to disable the tandem feature? On a personal note I see this as creating some huge security concerns. TNX Larry Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following address in order to contact the management team [EMAIL PROTECTED] If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following address in order to contact the management team [EMAIL PROTECTED] If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- BEGIN-ANTISPAM-VOTING-LINKS -- Teach InfoWest Spam Trap if this mail (ID 220332105) is spam: Spam: https://spamtrap.infowest.com/canit/b.php?i=220332105m=2a96ede8a3e7c=s Not spam: https://spamtrap.infowest.com/canit/b.php?i=220332105m=2a96ede8a3e7c=n Forget vote: https://spamtrap.infowest.com/canit/b.php?i=220332105m=2a96ede8a3e7c=f REMEMBER: Never give out your account information, password, or other personal information over e-mail. -- END-ANTISPAM-VOTING-LINKS Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following address in order to contact the management team [EMAIL PROTECTED] If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL
Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 10 Tandem
Thank you Max This appears to be one of those fluff features that provides a great excuse for not dealing with some of the core issues we have all experienced version-after version of JFW. Let's fix the basics first and then make it cool. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Agent86b Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2008 2:41 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 10 Tandem Eric, will this continue with future versions? I for one am very security conscious I would never let anybody remotely access my computer. I am very pleased to have a version without tandem access. Max. on 06:25 5/11/2008, Eric Damery said: Dan, If the University is concerned, you can use a non Tandem version of JAWS 10 found on the download page: http://www.freedomscientific.com/downloads/jaws/jaws-downloads.asp Regards, Eric -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dan Rossi Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2008 1:55 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 10 Tandem This is the last message I will say on this topic. There is no conspiracy here. The simple fact is that remote code execution security holes are pretty common. Unless the developers for this particular code are years ahead of everyone else there are undoubtedly security holes in this tandem software. Once you put the functionality into the software, someone out there will eventually figure out how to exploit it. I am not suggesting that FreedomScientific will be spying on you or anything like that. I am just saying that we see attacks like this at the university all the time, although via other vectors. Never-the-less, this just gives some hacker another bunch of code to possibly exploit. Personally, I think the threat is relatively small because of the small install base, but saying that absolutely no one will ever get access to your machine without being invited is a bit nieve. -- Blue skies. Dan Rossi Carnegie Mellon University. E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tel:(412) 268-9081 Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following address in order to contact the management team [EMAIL PROTECTED] If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following address in order to contact the management team [EMAIL PROTECTED] If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following address in order to contact the management team [EMAIL PROTECTED] If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- BEGIN-ANTISPAM-VOTING-LINKS -- Teach InfoWest Spam Trap if this mail (ID 220351764) is spam: Spam: https://spamtrap.infowest.com/canit/b.php?i=220351764m=30e9ffbb0d4ec=s Not spam: https://spamtrap.infowest.com/canit/b.php?i=220351764m=30e9ffbb0d4ec=n Forget vote: https://spamtrap.infowest.com/canit/b.php?i=220351764m=30e9ffbb0d4ec=f REMEMBER: Never give out your account information, password, or other personal information over e-mail. -- END-ANTISPAM-VOTING-LINKS Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send
Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 10 Tandem
Alex, Your post makes absolutely no sense. *explain further if you can* -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alex Stone Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2008 1:27 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 10 Tandem I love it when people come on e-mail lists with no Intention of listening to anything anyone says! Alex -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Larry Stansifer Sent: 04 November 2008 20:04 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 10 Tandem Hi folks, For those of you who have been through the beta cycle with Jaws 10, is there any way to disable the tandem feature? On a personal note I see this as creating some huge security concerns. TNX Larry Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following address in order to contact the management team [EMAIL PROTECTED] If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following address in order to contact the management team [EMAIL PROTECTED] If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- BEGIN-ANTISPAM-VOTING-LINKS -- Teach InfoWest Spam Trap if this mail (ID 220332105) is spam: Spam: https://spamtrap.infowest.com/canit/b.php?i=220332105m=2a96ede8a3e7c=s Not spam: https://spamtrap.infowest.com/canit/b.php?i=220332105m=2a96ede8a3e7c=n Forget vote: https://spamtrap.infowest.com/canit/b.php?i=220332105m=2a96ede8a3e7c=f REMEMBER: Never give out your account information, password, or other personal information over e-mail. -- END-ANTISPAM-VOTING-LINKS Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following address in order to contact the management team [EMAIL PROTECTED] If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 10 Tandem
Not a conspiracy but rather a valid security concern. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rick Harmon Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2008 11:38 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 10 Tandem Exactly no one and I repeat no one gets access to your machine with out permission. I see the conspiracies starting already here. - Original Message - From: Hugh Megarry [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2008 1:30 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 10 Tandem I don't think there is a way to do that but as far as I understand it you must give the other person a number that you get from the tandem site before they can get onto your computer so you have control of it at all times and a tandem session can not start unless you start it Hugh Megarry skype hugh.megarry -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Larry Stansifer Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2008 5:07 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 10 Tandem Hi folks, For those of you who have been through the beta cycle with Jaws 10, is there any way to disable the tandem feature? On a personal note I see this as creating some huge security concerns. TNX Larry Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following address in order to contact the management team [EMAIL PROTECTED] If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 3583 (20081104) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 3583 (20081104) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following address in order to contact the management team [EMAIL PROTECTED] If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following address in order to contact the management team [EMAIL PROTECTED] If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- BEGIN-ANTISPAM-VOTING-LINKS -- Teach InfoWest Spam Trap if this mail (ID 220303719) is spam: Spam: https://spamtrap.infowest.com/canit/b.php?i=220303719m=0c60bc196145c=s Not spam: https://spamtrap.infowest.com/canit/b.php?i=220303719m=0c60bc196145c=n Forget vote: https://spamtrap.infowest.com/canit/b.php?i=220303719m=0c60bc196145c=f REMEMBER: Never give out your account information, password, or other personal information over e-mail. -- END-ANTISPAM-VOTING-LINKS Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following address in order to contact the management team [EMAIL PROTECTED] If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 10 Tandem
The down-side to that advise is I paid for both 9 and 10 and I am still using 8.2173. I have 9.latest installed and find it to be less stable than 8.2173. If you want to discuss particulars off list it is [EMAIL PROTECTED] I don't want to clutter up the list with old and unsatisfactory history. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gerald Levy Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2008 10:50 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 10 Tandem If you are really concerned about security, just use JAWS 9 or earlier. - Original Message - From: Larry Stansifer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2008 12:06 PM Subject: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 10 Tandem Hi folks, For those of you who have been through the beta cycle with Jaws 10, is there any way to disable the tandem feature? On a personal note I see this as creating some huge security concerns. TNX Larry Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following address in order to contact the management team [EMAIL PROTECTED] If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following address in order to contact the management team [EMAIL PROTECTED] If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- BEGIN-ANTISPAM-VOTING-LINKS -- Teach InfoWest Spam Trap if this mail (ID 220290254) is spam: Spam: https://spamtrap.infowest.com/canit/b.php?i=220290254m=e4af7dc939f7c=s Not spam: https://spamtrap.infowest.com/canit/b.php?i=220290254m=e4af7dc939f7c=n Forget vote: https://spamtrap.infowest.com/canit/b.php?i=220290254m=e4af7dc939f7c=f REMEMBER: Never give out your account information, password, or other personal information over e-mail. -- END-ANTISPAM-VOTING-LINKS Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following address in order to contact the management team [EMAIL PROTECTED] If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 10 Tandem
Nobody at all can take over your computer unless you let them in the first place. David Ferrin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Think like a man of action, and act like a man of thought. - Original Message - From: Larry Stansifer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2008 12:06 PM Subject: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 10 Tandem Hi folks, For those of you who have been through the beta cycle with Jaws 10, is there any way to disable the tandem feature? On a personal note I see this as creating some huge security concerns. TNX Larry Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following address in order to contact the management team [EMAIL PROTECTED] If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following address in order to contact the management team [EMAIL PROTECTED] If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 10 Tandem
If you are really concerned about security, just use JAWS 9 or earlier. - Original Message - From: Larry Stansifer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2008 12:06 PM Subject: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 10 Tandem Hi folks, For those of you who have been through the beta cycle with Jaws 10, is there any way to disable the tandem feature? On a personal note I see this as creating some huge security concerns. TNX Larry Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following address in order to contact the management team [EMAIL PROTECTED] If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following address in order to contact the management team [EMAIL PROTECTED] If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 10 Tandem
There is a podcast discussing this in some detail on the blindcooltech website. Cheers Alex -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Ferrin Sent: 04 November 2008 17:44 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 10 Tandem Nobody at all can take over your computer unless you let them in the first place. David Ferrin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Think like a man of action, and act like a man of thought. - Original Message - From: Larry Stansifer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2008 12:06 PM Subject: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 10 Tandem Hi folks, For those of you who have been through the beta cycle with Jaws 10, is there any way to disable the tandem feature? On a personal note I see this as creating some huge security concerns. TNX Larry Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following address in order to contact the management team [EMAIL PROTECTED] If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following address in order to contact the management team [EMAIL PROTECTED] If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following address in order to contact the management team [EMAIL PROTECTED] If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 10 Tandem
I don't think there is a way to do that but as far as I understand it you must give the other person a number that you get from the tandem site before they can get onto your computer so you have control of it at all times and a tandem session can not start unless you start it Hugh Megarry skype hugh.megarry -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Larry Stansifer Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2008 5:07 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 10 Tandem Hi folks, For those of you who have been through the beta cycle with Jaws 10, is there any way to disable the tandem feature? On a personal note I see this as creating some huge security concerns. TNX Larry Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following address in order to contact the management team [EMAIL PROTECTED] If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 3583 (20081104) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 3583 (20081104) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following address in order to contact the management team [EMAIL PROTECTED] If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 10 Tandem
Exactly no one and I repeat no one gets access to your machine with out permission. I see the conspiracies starting already here. - Original Message - From: Hugh Megarry [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2008 1:30 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 10 Tandem I don't think there is a way to do that but as far as I understand it you must give the other person a number that you get from the tandem site before they can get onto your computer so you have control of it at all times and a tandem session can not start unless you start it Hugh Megarry skype hugh.megarry -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Larry Stansifer Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2008 5:07 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 10 Tandem Hi folks, For those of you who have been through the beta cycle with Jaws 10, is there any way to disable the tandem feature? On a personal note I see this as creating some huge security concerns. TNX Larry Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following address in order to contact the management team [EMAIL PROTECTED] If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 3583 (20081104) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 3583 (20081104) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following address in order to contact the management team [EMAIL PROTECTED] If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following address in order to contact the management team [EMAIL PROTECTED] If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 10 Tandem
In theory that's true. But enterprising hackers are always devising schemes for doing their dirty work. Some hacker out there will figure out a way to intercept the security code and gain access to somebody else's computer without authorization. It doesn't bother me in the least because I have reverted to JAWS 9. - Original Message - From: Rick Harmon [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2008 1:38 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 10 Tandem Exactly no one and I repeat no one gets access to your machine with out permission. I see the conspiracies starting already here. - Original Message - From: Hugh Megarry [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2008 1:30 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 10 Tandem I don't think there is a way to do that but as far as I understand it you must give the other person a number that you get from the tandem site before they can get onto your computer so you have control of it at all times and a tandem session can not start unless you start it Hugh Megarry skype hugh.megarry -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Larry Stansifer Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2008 5:07 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 10 Tandem Hi folks, For those of you who have been through the beta cycle with Jaws 10, is there any way to disable the tandem feature? On a personal note I see this as creating some huge security concerns. TNX Larry Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following address in order to contact the management team [EMAIL PROTECTED] If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 3583 (20081104) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 3583 (20081104) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following address in order to contact the management team [EMAIL PROTECTED] If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following address in order to contact the management team [EMAIL PROTECTED] If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following address in order to contact the management team [EMAIL PROTECTED] If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 10 Tandem
This is the last message I will say on this topic. There is no conspiracy here. The simple fact is that remote code execution security holes are pretty common. Unless the developers for this particular code are years ahead of everyone else there are undoubtedly security holes in this tandem software. Once you put the functionality into the software, someone out there will eventually figure out how to exploit it. I am not suggesting that FreedomScientific will be spying on you or anything like that. I am just saying that we see attacks like this at the university all the time, although via other vectors. Never-the-less, this just gives some hacker another bunch of code to possibly exploit. Personally, I think the threat is relatively small because of the small install base, but saying that absolutely no one will ever get access to your machine without being invited is a bit nieve. -- Blue skies. Dan Rossi Carnegie Mellon University. E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tel:(412) 268-9081 Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following address in order to contact the management team [EMAIL PROTECTED] If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 10 Tandem
Sounds like a lot of hard work for very little benefit to me. Cheers Alex -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gerald Levy Sent: 04 November 2008 18:53 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 10 Tandem In theory that's true. But enterprising hackers are always devising schemes for doing their dirty work. Some hacker out there will figure out a way to intercept the security code and gain access to somebody else's computer without authorization. It doesn't bother me in the least because I have reverted to JAWS 9. - Original Message - From: Rick Harmon [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2008 1:38 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 10 Tandem Exactly no one and I repeat no one gets access to your machine with out permission. I see the conspiracies starting already here. - Original Message - From: Hugh Megarry [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2008 1:30 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 10 Tandem I don't think there is a way to do that but as far as I understand it you must give the other person a number that you get from the tandem site before they can get onto your computer so you have control of it at all times and a tandem session can not start unless you start it Hugh Megarry skype hugh.megarry -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Larry Stansifer Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2008 5:07 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 10 Tandem Hi folks, For those of you who have been through the beta cycle with Jaws 10, is there any way to disable the tandem feature? On a personal note I see this as creating some huge security concerns. TNX Larry Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following address in order to contact the management team [EMAIL PROTECTED] If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 3583 (20081104) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 3583 (20081104) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following address in order to contact the management team [EMAIL PROTECTED] If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following address in order to contact the management team [EMAIL PROTECTED] If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following address in order to contact the management team [EMAIL PROTECTED] If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email
Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 10 Tandem
the security codes are very short lived according to FS. I think they are valid for something like 60 minutes and then they expire. So these codes even if hacked somehow would be pretty much useless and besides the code is the only info you get. You don't get what machine wants to use the code and you don't get the target end as only the target end enters the code. Rick Rick - Original Message - From: Alex Stone [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2008 2:00 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 10 Tandem Sounds like a lot of hard work for very little benefit to me. Cheers Alex -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gerald Levy Sent: 04 November 2008 18:53 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 10 Tandem In theory that's true. But enterprising hackers are always devising schemes for doing their dirty work. Some hacker out there will figure out a way to intercept the security code and gain access to somebody else's computer without authorization. It doesn't bother me in the least because I have reverted to JAWS 9. - Original Message - From: Rick Harmon [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2008 1:38 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 10 Tandem Exactly no one and I repeat no one gets access to your machine with out permission. I see the conspiracies starting already here. - Original Message - From: Hugh Megarry [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2008 1:30 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 10 Tandem I don't think there is a way to do that but as far as I understand it you must give the other person a number that you get from the tandem site before they can get onto your computer so you have control of it at all times and a tandem session can not start unless you start it Hugh Megarry skype hugh.megarry -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Larry Stansifer Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2008 5:07 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 10 Tandem Hi folks, For those of you who have been through the beta cycle with Jaws 10, is there any way to disable the tandem feature? On a personal note I see this as creating some huge security concerns. TNX Larry Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following address in order to contact the management team [EMAIL PROTECTED] If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 3583 (20081104) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 3583 (20081104) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following address in order to contact the management team [EMAIL PROTECTED] If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following address in order to contact the management team [EMAIL PROTECTED] If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit
Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 10 Tandem
60 minutes is correct according to my memory. David Ferrin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Think like a man of action, and act like a man of thought. - Original Message - From: Rick Harmon [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2008 2:04 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 10 Tandem the security codes are very short lived according to FS. I think they are valid for something like 60 minutes and then they expire. So these codes even if hacked somehow would be pretty much useless and besides the code is the only info you get. You don't get what machine wants to use the code and you don't get the target end as only the target end enters the code. Rick Rick - Original Message - From: Alex Stone [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2008 2:00 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 10 Tandem Sounds like a lot of hard work for very little benefit to me. Cheers Alex -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gerald Levy Sent: 04 November 2008 18:53 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 10 Tandem In theory that's true. But enterprising hackers are always devising schemes for doing their dirty work. Some hacker out there will figure out a way to intercept the security code and gain access to somebody else's computer without authorization. It doesn't bother me in the least because I have reverted to JAWS 9. - Original Message - From: Rick Harmon [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2008 1:38 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 10 Tandem Exactly no one and I repeat no one gets access to your machine with out permission. I see the conspiracies starting already here. - Original Message - From: Hugh Megarry [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2008 1:30 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 10 Tandem I don't think there is a way to do that but as far as I understand it you must give the other person a number that you get from the tandem site before they can get onto your computer so you have control of it at all times and a tandem session can not start unless you start it Hugh Megarry skype hugh.megarry -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Larry Stansifer Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2008 5:07 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 10 Tandem Hi folks, For those of you who have been through the beta cycle with Jaws 10, is there any way to disable the tandem feature? On a personal note I see this as creating some huge security concerns. TNX Larry Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following address in order to contact the management team [EMAIL PROTECTED] If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 3583 (20081104) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 3583 (20081104) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following address in order to contact the management team [EMAIL PROTECTED] If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following address in order
Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 10 Tandem
Dan, If the University is concerned, you can use a non Tandem version of JAWS 10 found on the download page: http://www.freedomscientific.com/downloads/jaws/jaws-downloads.asp Regards, Eric -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dan Rossi Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2008 1:55 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 10 Tandem This is the last message I will say on this topic. There is no conspiracy here. The simple fact is that remote code execution security holes are pretty common. Unless the developers for this particular code are years ahead of everyone else there are undoubtedly security holes in this tandem software. Once you put the functionality into the software, someone out there will eventually figure out how to exploit it. I am not suggesting that FreedomScientific will be spying on you or anything like that. I am just saying that we see attacks like this at the university all the time, although via other vectors. Never-the-less, this just gives some hacker another bunch of code to possibly exploit. Personally, I think the threat is relatively small because of the small install base, but saying that absolutely no one will ever get access to your machine without being invited is a bit nieve. -- Blue skies. Dan Rossi Carnegie Mellon University. E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tel:(412) 268-9081 Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following address in order to contact the management team [EMAIL PROTECTED] If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following address in order to contact the management team [EMAIL PROTECTED] If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 10 Tandem
Download the non tandem jaws 10 from the FS website and you won't have to deal with it at all. Rick - Original Message - From: Larry Stansifer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2008 3:04 PM Subject: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 10 Tandem Hi folks, For those of you who have been through the beta cycle with Jaws 10, is there any way to disable the tandem feature? On a personal note I see this as creating some huge security concerns. TNX Larry Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following address in order to contact the management team [EMAIL PROTECTED] If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following address in order to contact the management team [EMAIL PROTECTED] If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 10 Tandem
Eric, will this continue with future versions? I for one am very security conscious I would never let anybody remotely access my computer. I am very pleased to have a version without tandem access. Max. on 06:25 5/11/2008, Eric Damery said: Dan, If the University is concerned, you can use a non Tandem version of JAWS 10 found on the download page: http://www.freedomscientific.com/downloads/jaws/jaws-downloads.asp Regards, Eric -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dan Rossi Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2008 1:55 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 10 Tandem This is the last message I will say on this topic. There is no conspiracy here. The simple fact is that remote code execution security holes are pretty common. Unless the developers for this particular code are years ahead of everyone else there are undoubtedly security holes in this tandem software. Once you put the functionality into the software, someone out there will eventually figure out how to exploit it. I am not suggesting that FreedomScientific will be spying on you or anything like that. I am just saying that we see attacks like this at the university all the time, although via other vectors. Never-the-less, this just gives some hacker another bunch of code to possibly exploit. Personally, I think the threat is relatively small because of the small install base, but saying that absolutely no one will ever get access to your machine without being invited is a bit nieve. -- Blue skies. Dan Rossi Carnegie Mellon University. E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tel:(412) 268-9081 Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following address in order to contact the management team [EMAIL PROTECTED] If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following address in order to contact the management team [EMAIL PROTECTED] If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following address in order to contact the management team [EMAIL PROTECTED] If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 10 Tandem
Nontandom? Never heard of this so called nontandom version. -- Chris Hallsworth e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] skype: chrishallsworth7266 klango: chrishallsworth - Original Message - From: Rick Harmon [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2008 8:08 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 10 Tandem Download the non tandem jaws 10 from the FS website and you won't have to deal with it at all. Rick - Original Message - From: Larry Stansifer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2008 3:04 PM Subject: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 10 Tandem Hi folks, For those of you who have been through the beta cycle with Jaws 10, is there any way to disable the tandem feature? On a personal note I see this as creating some huge security concerns. TNX Larry Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following address in order to contact the management team [EMAIL PROTECTED] If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following address in order to contact the management team [EMAIL PROTECTED] If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following address in order to contact the management team [EMAIL PROTECTED] If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 10 Tandem
It's up on the FS site. I saw it today. Rick - Original Message - From: Chris Hallsworth [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2008 4:54 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 10 Tandem Nontandom? Never heard of this so called nontandom version. -- Chris Hallsworth e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] skype: chrishallsworth7266 klango: chrishallsworth - Original Message - From: Rick Harmon [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2008 8:08 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 10 Tandem Download the non tandem jaws 10 from the FS website and you won't have to deal with it at all. Rick - Original Message - From: Larry Stansifer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2008 3:04 PM Subject: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 10 Tandem Hi folks, For those of you who have been through the beta cycle with Jaws 10, is there any way to disable the tandem feature? On a personal note I see this as creating some huge security concerns. TNX Larry Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following address in order to contact the management team [EMAIL PROTECTED] If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following address in order to contact the management team [EMAIL PROTECTED] If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following address in order to contact the management team [EMAIL PROTECTED] If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following address in order to contact the management team [EMAIL PROTECTED] If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 10 Tandem
Yeah so did I! Sorry for the ignorance folks. -- Chris Hallsworth e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] skype: chrishallsworth7266 klango: chrishallsworth - Original Message - From: Rick Harmon [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2008 9:57 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 10 Tandem It's up on the FS site. I saw it today. Rick - Original Message - From: Chris Hallsworth [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2008 4:54 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 10 Tandem Nontandom? Never heard of this so called nontandom version. -- Chris Hallsworth e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] skype: chrishallsworth7266 klango: chrishallsworth - Original Message - From: Rick Harmon [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2008 8:08 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 10 Tandem Download the non tandem jaws 10 from the FS website and you won't have to deal with it at all. Rick - Original Message - From: Larry Stansifer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2008 3:04 PM Subject: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 10 Tandem Hi folks, For those of you who have been through the beta cycle with Jaws 10, is there any way to disable the tandem feature? On a personal note I see this as creating some huge security concerns. TNX Larry Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following address in order to contact the management team [EMAIL PROTECTED] If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following address in order to contact the management team [EMAIL PROTECTED] If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following address in order to contact the management team [EMAIL PROTECTED] If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following address in order to contact the management team [EMAIL PROTECTED] If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following address in order to contact the management team [EMAIL PROTECTED] If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 10 Tandem
It does nothing if you don't allow anyone to connect to you. There are safe guards built in to tandem to not allow someone to connect to you without permissions. Rick - Original Message - From: Larry Stansifer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2008 12:06 PM Subject: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 10 Tandem Hi folks, For those of you who have been through the beta cycle with Jaws 10, is there any way to disable the tandem feature? On a personal note I see this as creating some huge security concerns. TNX Larry Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following address in order to contact the management team [EMAIL PROTECTED] If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following address in order to contact the management team [EMAIL PROTECTED] If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 10 Tandem
I love it when people come on e-mail lists with no Intention of listening to anything anyone says! Alex -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Larry Stansifer Sent: 04 November 2008 20:04 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 10 Tandem Hi folks, For those of you who have been through the beta cycle with Jaws 10, is there any way to disable the tandem feature? On a personal note I see this as creating some huge security concerns. TNX Larry Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following address in order to contact the management team [EMAIL PROTECTED] If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following address in order to contact the management team [EMAIL PROTECTED] If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
