[JBoss-dev] First mail from Mail Services For JBoss

2004-01-03 Thread acoliver
This is the first mail sent to the outside world from the new Mail
Services For JBoss.  The code will be checked in shortly.  Sorry about
being 3 days late :-(

For more information about Mail Services for JBoss look here:
http://www.superlinksoftware.com/cgi-bin/erswiki.pl?MailServicesForJBoss

or join us in the forum here:
http://jboss.org/index.html?module=bb&op=viewforum&f=186

Thanks,

-Andy

ps. Note there are still a few quirks to be worked out before I advocate
anyone not involved in the project actually use this in production.






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[JBoss-dev] Mail Services changes....Let the dominos fall

2004-01-08 Thread acoliver
I just committed support for multiple CC's/BCC, mails which have both 
local and remote users, and some various minor changes.  If anyone can 
give a hand figuring out why Microsoft Entourage/iMail hates us after we 
deliver its message and say "delivered" then I'd really appreciate it.  
I don't have that problem with any other mail client :-/

Today I'm going to do some more cleanup and fix some unit tests as well 
as fill some in that I don't feel are complete.  Tomorrow I plan to work 
on attachments.

I'm also working on a high level document which explains:

1. The case for mail services
2. Use cases
3. What services I feel we should provide
4. Configuration issues
5. "market position" (things that do similar things to what we're doing)

I'd really like to talk to people with email based applications.  I'd 
like to work with someone who has a real-world case to provide me with a 
cutting board for features.  Right now my main goal is to replace my 
personal mail server.  The only challenge there is that it serves (low 
volume) mail lists.  I fear I'll achieve this rather quickly even with 
my traveling.

More information on Mail Services is available on the wiki ATM: 
http://www.superlinksoftware.com/cgi-bin/erswiki.pl?MailServicesForJBoss

This includes information such as "where the heck do I get it?" "how do 
I build it?"  and "how can I help"

 Thanks,

Andy

(sent via Mail Services for JBoss ;-) 
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[JBoss-dev] Mail Services changes....Let the dominos fall

2004-01-08 Thread acoliver
I just committed support for multiple CC's/BCC, mails which have both 
local and remote users, and some various minor changes.  If anyone can 
give a hand figuring out why Microsoft Entourage/iMail hates us after we 
deliver its message and say "delivered" then I'd really appreciate it.  
I don't have that problem with any other mail client :-/

Today I'm going to do some more cleanup and fix some unit tests as well 
as fill some in that I don't feel are complete.  Tomorrow I plan to work 
on attachments.

I'm also working on a high level document which explains:

1. The case for mail services
2. Use cases
3. What services I feel we should provide
4. Configuration issues
5. "market position" (things that do similar things to what we're doing)

I'd really like to talk to people with email based applications.  I'd 
like to work with someone who has a real-world case to provide me with a 
cutting board for features.  Right now my main goal is to replace my 
personal mail server.  The only challenge there is that it serves (low 
volume) mail lists.  I fear I'll achieve this rather quickly even with 
my traveling.

More information on Mail Services is available on the wiki ATM: 
http://www.superlinksoftware.com/cgi-bin/erswiki.pl?MailServicesForJBoss

This includes information such as "where the heck do I get it?" "how do 
I build it?"  and "how can I help"

 Thanks,

Andy

(sent via Mail Services for JBoss ;-) 
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[JBoss-dev] [Mail Services] - Weird issue with OS X mail clients solved and some Mail Serv

2004-02-12 Thread acoliver
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The issue with Entourage and Mac mail is solved.  Sometimes we'd print things out of 
order.  Apparently most mail clients don't care what the server says as long as it 
doesn't say error.  These clients actually care.



Development should ramp up pretty quickly now.  This was a major obsticle for me as 
the mail client I used didn't work!  I've now got a test lab set up for these kinds of 
issues and should be able to test various mail clients against it.  



Shortly I'll see about adding forum->mail integregation.



Thanks,



Andy


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[JBoss-dev] [Nukes Development] - Re: roadmap, feature requests, etc

2004-02-14 Thread acoliver
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I'm planning to add mail integration to nukes.  I'll start documenting that on the 
jboss wiki shortly.  http://jboss.org/wiki.  Certainly could use some help with it.  
(This is where Nukes will meet mail services)


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[JBoss-dev] [Nukes Development] - Re: roadmap, feature requests, etc

2004-02-15 Thread acoliver
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"jae77" wrote : let me know after you've got things documented, i'll see what i can 
lend a hand w/. 



See:  http://www.jboss.org/index.html?module=bb&op=posting&mode=reply&p=3821563



And:

jboss.org/developers/projects/mailservices/case.pdf



And:

http://jboss.org/wiki/Wiki.jsp?page=MailServicesForJBoss


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[JBoss-dev] [Nukes Development] - Re: roadmap, feature requests, etc

2004-02-16 Thread acoliver
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Umm, Guess what Marc...  If this is the Jae I'm thinking of... I had him first... I 
think i said "nukes would be a good place to get involved" ;-)  Anyhow its 
Nukes/MailServices integration ;-)  



Jae, go on the wiki, login (use your forum login/pw) and create it yourself!  That is 
why it is there.  


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[JBoss-dev] [Mail Services] - Re: whether javamail activation frame work ?

2004-02-23 Thread acoliver
It doesn't sound like you need Mail Services just to send some files.  It might help 
you to use mail services (for queueing and so forth, so that you don't need a separate 
mail server).  The JBoss Admin + Development guide shows you how to set up a J2EE 
JavaMail conifg.  

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[JBoss-dev] [Management on JBoss] - Re: New look of JBoss JMX console

2004-02-28 Thread acoliver
you don't by chance have this in patch form do you?

I saw this: 
http://www.open.hr/~sbrbot/JBoss/Auto-generated_and_unknown_PKs_on_JBoss.htm

Any chance you'd be willing to wikify it? http://jboss.org/wiki/

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[JBoss-dev] [Mail Services] - Re: AS & AV

2004-03-05 Thread acoliver
I have a few plans.  And some of it is detailed in "The Case For Mail Services" off 
the project page.  We'll have a system like JAMES's "mailets" and I also plan to have 
a mail scripting system.  Aside from this, the basic SMTP protocol needs to change.  
I've started drafting some ideas: 
http://jboss.org/wiki/Wiki.jsp?page=MailFingerprints.  Through open source we can push 
these changes back into the spec.  (I plan to contribute support to open source mail 
clients).  

The plugin idea will let you attach spam assasin, albiet slowly. Ideally we want a 
plugin which can load HAM (counter-spam) and implements bayesian among other types of 
filtering.  Additionally, I'd like to do something like a syndicated and aggregated 
regexp and spam match scripts.. Basically you can pub your spam rules and I can 
aggregate them with mine and we can have kind of a trust circle for "not rules"...  

In short, lots of plans but we just got basic protocol/mailbox support so its 
certainly not there yet.  Performance vs Security/Spam control is a hyperbolic false 
delimma to be honest.  If you take a look at "the case for mail services" you'll see 
that both are very much under consideration but obviously being able to speak SMTP/POP 
is necessary before we can even test for spam control :-)... While we're at it, we 
might as well do it well.

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[JBoss-dev] [Mail Services] - Re: Mail Server Settings

2004-03-08 Thread acoliver
If you're interested in working on this I can send you some code I've started working 
on: http://superlinksoftware.com/cgi-bin/erswiki.pl?JBossConsole
(haven't moved this over to the Jboss wiki yet, will soon)

I want to put some hooks into the deployer to deal wit hthis...

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[JBoss-dev] [Mail Services] - Re: CmdRCPT allows relaying

2004-03-08 Thread acoliver
I think you're wrong, it requires you to be authenticated or to send mail to an 
authenticated user... 

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[JBoss-dev] [Mail Services] - Re: CmdRCPT allows relaying

2004-03-10 Thread acoliver
is handle-auth turned on? (mail.sar/META-INF/jboss-service.xml)

  
  auth-requiredtrue


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[JBoss-dev] [Mail Services] - Re: CmdRCPT allows relaying

2004-03-10 Thread acoliver
(BTW, I'm coming back up to speed after a week out and lots of baby-related 
appointments.  I'm working on checking into everything, just be patientbaby comes 
on the 18th and then I go on a vacation for two weeks.  I'm hoping to get M1 ready 
even if we don't release it due to me not wanting to have chaos while I'm away ;-) )

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[JBoss-dev] [Mail Services] - Re: Unit tests question

2004-03-10 Thread acoliver
I think I've fixed the TestJMS though now we have to pass in the name of the 
connection factories in the constructor.  for some dammed reason the TestTwiddle is 
working on OS X but not on Linux.  Will look into that further.  Its not critical for 
M1, if I have to I'll delete the test temporarily.  I only intend Twiddle to be a demo 
on how to add a protocol though it might be a cool way to shut RMI down and backend 
the twiddle tool itself...

The ClientTestRunner is intended to run scripts.  Its not done yet but it does 
basically work.  Give it a whirl and enhance it.

Mike, if you want a document on how the unit tests should work, get cracking bud ;-)  
http://jboss.org/wiki/Wiki.jsp (scroll down to mail services).  I disagree that 
serious unit tests need multiple machines, etc.  You can test the behavior of the 
component without said machines.  The only thing you can't test easily that way is the 
SMTPSender...but I'm sure we can find some way to work around it.  These are unit 
tests.  Integration testing and manual testing are seperate.  M1 should uncover these 
issues.  My biggest concern with M1 is that we have no error reporting/message 
bouncing.  Meaning if we fail to send, we do so silently ATM.  

-andy

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[JBoss-dev] [Mail Services] - Re: Unit tests question

2004-03-11 Thread acoliver
Mike Andrews has R/W access.  

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[JBoss-dev] [Mail Services] - Re: Mail client Windows

2004-03-11 Thread acoliver
Mozilla Mail, Mozilla Thunderbird (my fav for testing this stuff).

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[JBoss-dev] [Mail Services] - TestTwiddle

2004-03-11 Thread acoliver
Man I can't believe I've spent two days on this and only now found this.  JUnit can be 
great for obfuscating errors.  For some reason on the Linux box an exception is thrown 
in constructing CmdServerInfo in the construct handlers method of TwiddleHandlers.  I 
haven't determined why yet.  It may turn out to be classpath which would be really 
annoying.

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[JBoss-dev] [Mail Services] - Re: entity structure for stored messages

2004-03-11 Thread acoliver
Whatever you think makes sense, consider clustered caching issues as well in your 
design.

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[JBoss-dev] [Mail Services] - Re: entity structure for stored messages

2004-03-11 Thread acoliver
I don't know that header-type makes sense because theoretically I could adhoc add 
X-GrandMasKitchen: as a header at whim...

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[JBoss-dev] [Mail Services] - Re: concerns about in-application caching and ad-hock transa

2004-03-11 Thread acoliver
Well "transaction" doesn't always mean the same thing.  The POP transaction is really 
just a matter of state. I haven't looked real close at Eric's entity folder code 
though.  It could be wrong.  Take a look and do what you think is best.  I trust your 
judgement.  Plus I trust CVS to fix any errors in your judgement ;-)

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[JBoss-dev] [Mail Services] - Re: JMSMailListener and DomanGroup

2004-03-14 Thread acoliver
Yes that was the intent.  I was just not done yet.

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[JBoss-dev] [Mail Services] - Re: JMSMailListener and DomanGroup

2004-03-14 Thread acoliver
oh so I meant to say: Yes please! :-)

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[JBoss-dev] [Mail Services] - Re: Why reinventing a whole MailService

2004-03-14 Thread acoliver
anonymous wrote : So James is broken but it could be fixed. But I really like the idea 
of leveraging all the services that JBoss has in order to create a new breed of email 
server.

The first part of this quote is a viewpoint that I wholeheartedly disagree with (and 
BTW, I use JAMES as a mail server and have linked said garbage folder to /dev/null and 
use file based mail though its SLOW.  Also note that I'm a member of the Apache 
Software Foundation, a [former?] committer to Cocoon [also based on avalon] and I've 
contributed to JAMES in the past).  I am of the opinion that JAMES's problems are due 
to a cracked foundation.  That foundation is called Avalon.  I also seriously dislike 
a lot of the Avalon code.

The second part we agree on ;-)

So you have three options:

1. Work on JAMES to fix it and integrate it with JBoss
2. Work on Mail Services for JBoss, built on JBoss from the ground up!
3. Sit on your butt and hope one of the two achieve it

-andy

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[JBoss-dev] [Mail Services] - Re: mailboxes and authentication

2004-03-15 Thread acoliver
Yes I've thought of this and haven't yet quite worked my way though it.  We need this 
for a few things including mail lists.  What do you think should be done?  Keep in 
mind that the user repository should be pluggable.  Perhaps mail boxes are associated 
with multiple users etc??

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[JBoss-dev] [Mail Services] - Re: entity structure for stored messages

2004-03-15 Thread acoliver
If you really think that level of normalization is necessary for headers, go for it.  
I think you've found a bike shed and have decided to paint it.  I won't stop you of 
course, but I'll wish you were doing something more important..  :-)  Correct database 
design would be an array/custom type IMO ;-)  Not all DBs support array/custom types 
though :-)

For M1, I don't think the actual entity structure is that important.  Basic features, 
performance, security and overall correctness are what we'll be judged on.

As for the locking stuff blow, I don't think any of that is very applicable here.  
Also note that entity-based mailboxes is just one option we should support. 

As for the JBoss Cache, I'm still familiarizing myself with it.  I'm not entirely sure 
how useful it will be for this because most of the stuff we need persisted.  

I'd certainly enjoy it if someone implemented a Hibernate-based store.  I don't think 
it should be done before M1 though.  

As for CMP caching/cache invalidation.  It will depend on your mail server situation.  
For a simple mail server you could use option-A entities and it would be fine...  
Eventually we'll need a "Mail Load Balancer" of sorts (if no such thing exists).  It 
will point you round robin with IP-stickiness to a mail server.  You can't be 
guaranteed that you'll ALWAYS hit the same physical mail server.  Caching will 
probably be easier than HTTP because STMP is stateful.  Meaning you'll be using one 
server for an entire interaction and one connection.  Secondly, updates are not 
possible.  Its Read, Write and Delete only.  Next, a shared mail account should not be 
a normal case.  Meaning if I open two mail clients and try and read my mail via 
both...well I'm weird.  If someone sends me mail while I'm reading it and I don't get 
it until next time I hit receive, its not catastrophic.

Thus I think we can probably use option A with cache invalidation in most places.  
Obviously this is quite configurable and if someone doesn't like it then edit an 
Entity XML descriptor and away you go.

Or at least thats my thinking this morning.  Personally I'd like to see us tackle:

1. Error reporting (bounces)
2. Proper addition of headers (right now we don't add the normal stuff)
3. Logging 
4. Unit tests (including the script runner) 

before we tackle issues of this detail.  Again just my personal preference based on 
what I see as being critical for the release.  I assume we'll be changing this area 
somewhat dramatically once we plug in other persistence and handle the differences in 
mail box handling between IMAP and POP.

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[JBoss-dev] [Mail Services] - Re: MBeanServerConnection troubles

2004-03-15 Thread acoliver
you can just ditch the twiddle stuff and it should compile fine for jb 3.2.3.  You 
won't (as stated) be able to run the unit tests however.  (just rm -rf 
src/java/org/jboss/console/twiddle/**  src/test/org/jboss/console/twiddle)...

Twiddle is a sample protocol to demonstrate how fun and easy it is to add other 
protocols to mail services.  Unfortunately, I've NOT had a fun time with the 
intricacies of JUNIT and the ant classloader interactions in the twiddle unit test... 
M1 may or may not include the twiddle example.  I'm leaning towards not.  You can as 
mentioned downgrade the twiddle protocol example to 3.2.3's MBeanServer (and this is 
in the CVS history) and it will work of course. 

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[JBoss-dev] [Mail Services] - TODO: TLS and JBossSX integration

2004-03-15 Thread acoliver
Presently the TLS stuff actually takes a hardcoded path for the keystore (worse the 
example seems to have a windows non-relative path).  Most stuff in JBoss declares a 
security domain and associates the keystore there.  This would be a good small project 
for someone and would help familiarize you with JBossSX and TLS.

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[JBoss-dev] [Mail Services] - TODO: logging refactoring

2004-03-15 Thread acoliver
The MailLogMBean stuff is crap.  (I wrote it so I can say that).  All we really need 
is an inner class which Log4J can key off of.  This will solve a weird blocking issue 
that happens from time to time.  Rip out the MailLog crap and just create an example 
log4j config off of an inner class (which may already be there in the 
WrappedPrintWriter)...

estimated time: 1-2 hours

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[JBoss-dev] [Mail Services] - TODO: Bounce Messages

2004-03-15 Thread acoliver
Presently we silently fail all mail deliveries.  Configurable bounce messages are 
essential for M1.  Please include unit tests of some type!

estimated time 8-16 hours 

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[JBoss-dev] [Mail Services] - TODO: Unit tests

2004-03-15 Thread acoliver
The unit tests in head as of today should work.  Please test them and tell us if not 
and if possible include a "ant -debug test" output.  Make sure you disable smiles, 
bbcode and html in the post :-)

estimate time 10-20 minutes

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[JBoss-dev] [Mail Services] - Explanation of TODOs

2004-03-15 Thread acoliver
One of the biggest problem I have in getting involved in a new open source project is 
finding the best place to start.  I'm attemting to outline a few simple needs and how 
long I think it will take a reasonably seasoned Java developer.  (Meaning if you've 
never walked outside of your struts app, used CVS or touched a shell then it may take 
a tad longer).  Some of these are critical and some are not.  If you're interested in 
taking it up, just reply to the thread and outline your basic approach, when you think 
you'll be done.  If someone has already done so, then reply and see where they are on 
it, maybe you can work with them!

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[JBoss-dev] [Mail Services] - TODO: Header normalization

2004-03-15 Thread acoliver
We presently do not add the normal receipt and delivery information to the header.  
This needs to be resolved.

estimated Time: 4-8 hours (read specs, test other against another mail server, write 
unit tests and code, test with mail client)

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[JBoss-dev] [Mail Services] - TODO: Script Runner

2004-03-15 Thread acoliver
Client Side: 

This script runner should:

1. read a script file
2. Connect to a port
3. run the script against the server validating replies.  
4. repeat deviences and fail with asserts in junit tests

It will need to offer some "IF/THEN/ELSE" semantics in order to deal with multiple 
acceptable states/configurations as well as wildcards (because time/date, etc might 
vary)

There is code ready for this, but it needs more work.

Server Side:

This script runner should:

1. read a script file
2. listen on a port
3. wait for the client to send the expect output and then return the replies
4. log everything

This will serve as a dev tool.  I've already needed this several times but haven't 
gotten to it yet.  The reason being that its very difficult to debug why certain 
clients work and don't without seeing what they send.  Yes we can log that but it 
would be useful to run through scenarios that are much harder to replicate without 
throw away code.

Estimated time: 2-4 days (including some scripts)

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[JBoss-dev] [Build System] - Re: To Maven or not to Maven?

2004-03-15 Thread acoliver
I think many of the things build magic does have been added to Ant.  I don't really 
want Maven.  I'd like to see an ant-only build that does what we need.

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[JBoss-dev] [Mail Services] - Re: Feedback about Mail Services

2004-03-16 Thread acoliver
Thanks Sergey, I think you're dead on with the specific issues with mail storage.  I 
disagree with the YAMS sentiment, in that each mail server have issues and I've not 
yet found one that I like.  Granted I'm sure some folks will eventually investigate us 
and not like what we're doing, but ultimately I think we can reach Exchange's feature 
set, be protocol compatible without some of its annoying flaws (proprietary, license 
costs, security failings, maintentance downtime, single operating system, etc).  I 
agree the functionality in the JAMES mailet interface is something that we should 
achieve.  I'd actually like to go a bit further and have some (thinking javascript?) 
scripting support so that admins can write mailets of sorts if they need.

Mail services is set up to be protocol extensible from the ground up.  Meaning if you 
look at my twiddle example, it has nothing to do with email.  I'm not 100% convinced 
that we should tackle "universal storage" but its an interesting idea.  More and more 
it looks like a lot of what we're doing will tie well into JBoss Nukes.  

Clustering is an issue that we're already discussing.  We must support clustering.  If 
you look closely at our storage stuff, its pretty imature but designed to be 
pluggable.  Mail Services is still pretty early in development (we haven't even had a 
milestone release) so understand that some pieces have been implemented just to have 
something WORKING rather than perfected.  I wanted a running mail server as close to 
day one as possible.  Fancy stuff comes later :-)

I hope you're right about SMTP, but to be honest, I doubt its going away in the near 
future.

I appreciate your feedback and keep it up.  While I'm not entirely convinced that we 
should be a universal content storage solution I'm open to being convinced and maybe 
better integration with nukes in the future will achieve the same goal.

Ultimately, I want Mail Services to be at least as easy to set up as Exchange, at 
least as featureful, but I expect to match the performance and stability of postfix 
and other UNIX mail servers.

Thanks,

Andy

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[JBoss-dev] [Mail Services] - Re: Feedback about Mail Services

2004-03-16 Thread acoliver
Oh as Bill said, if you have specific requirements that would be SOOO awesome!

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[JBoss-dev] [Mail Services] - Re: Feedback about Mail Services

2004-03-16 Thread acoliver
"SergeyZh" wrote :   
  | So universal storage can provide us the way to store all user's information by any 
supported protocol (SMTP, POP, IMAP, others). I prefer to have all my information in 
one place and I think mailserver is the best choice for that.
  | 

Right, but we're not having that tomorrow, or even the next day.  Its important to 
have RUNNING software and grow it from there.  Our approach is modular, so you're just 
talking one more protocol and maybe some refactoring of the storage (or possibly a 
seperate case) to have what you're speaking of once we have all of the other plumbing 
for basic SMTP/POP/IMAP support.  There is a lot more plumbing required to get there.  

You're asking for more cargo space before we're done making the frame and building the 
engine.  

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[JBoss-dev] [Mail Services] - Re: Feedback about Mail Services

2004-03-16 Thread acoliver
So what I meant to say (after reading it sounded more like  I was shooting you down 
than honing you in) was enthusiastically document the idea, I love to hear more about 
it.  At the same time, lets not put the cart before the horse: "but finishing SMTP 
before we start universal storage is a mistake" -- Cart and horse is important.  We're 
still on horse.  Good that someone is thinking about Cart but best if everyone is 
working on horse.

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[JBoss-dev] [Mail Services] - Re: JMSMailListener and DomanGroup

2004-03-16 Thread acoliver
The funny thing is that I don't think you need to know about either to fix this unit 
test.  You really need to learn this stuff.  We'll fall on our face without a 
sufficient testsuite.  Work on fixing this so that you will know aobut JMX.  
FakeInitialContext is just a fake implementation of JNDI.  I just over-ride JNDI with 
a jndi.properties using that FakeInititalContext so that I could put whatever I wanted 
in a hashtable.  the only limitation is I haven't figured out how to override the 
java:/ context but I think I've gotten around that sufficiently.

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[JBoss-dev] [Mail Services] - Offline

2004-03-16 Thread acoliver
I'm going offline for the next two weeks as of tomorrow (Really tonight).  I won't cry 
if M1 is ready to push out the door, tested, tagged and ready when I get back :-)...  
I think Mike Andrews has the best lay of the land.  I won't reply until then but will 
hopefully catch up when I get back after a few days of sorting through my spam :-).  
thanks for everyone's help and understanding.  I'll see you then!

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[JBoss-dev] [Mail Services] - Re: JMSMailListener and DomanGroup

2004-03-16 Thread acoliver
thank you :-).  It will make your life and all of ours much better.  

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[JBoss-dev] [Mail Services] - Back and status query

2004-04-01 Thread acoliver
I'm back.  So where are we on M1.  It looks like Kabir and Mike have been very busy!  
:-)

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[JBoss-dev] [Mail Services] - Re: Unit tests question

2004-04-01 Thread acoliver
integration testing is not so trivial.  We can do the basic Client script runner 
stuff.  However, we'll need to do a lot of admin work to have real integration 
testing.  I'm working on building myself a small test lab.  I may be able to get JBI 
to foot the bill for some machines and eventually figure out how to get everyone 
access to them (dyna DNS or something).  Basically, we'll need to test multiple server 
set ups, relays, etc.  So we'll need a few boxes to catch the scenarios.  Should be 
fun.  However, the good news is that we can rely on early adoptors for now :-)  I love 
open source

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[JBoss-dev] [Mail Services] - Re: CmdRCPT allows relaying

2004-04-01 Thread acoliver
is this still an issue?

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[JBoss-dev] [Mail Services] - Re: relevant reading

2004-04-01 Thread acoliver
Also: any good book on postfix.
Exchange Unleashed (or any good book on Exchange)

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[JBoss-dev] [Mail Services] - Re: CmdRCPT allows relaying

2004-04-01 Thread acoliver
it seems like "verify identity" was off in your setup.

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[JBoss-dev] [Mail Services] - Re: Feedback about Mail Services

2004-04-01 Thread acoliver
We'll also want to make it compatible with Exchange folders ultimately which probably 
means SMB (aka CIFS) of some sort.

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[JBoss-dev] [Mail Services] - Re: JMSMailListener and DomanGroup

2004-04-01 Thread acoliver
well if you think about it then only "local" and perhaps "relay" can be done or you'd 
have to have your own copy of the whole Internet DNS for "offServer"!  For now local 
is probably sufficient.

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[JBoss-dev] [Mail Services] - Re: mailboxes and authentication

2004-04-01 Thread acoliver
That actually made some sense to me even if it it will sicken some purists.  "roles 
are supposed to be functional" though we may be forced to do something like ACLs 
(microsoft's preferred way to do everything).  But boy oh boy do I hate ACLs.  (As I 
think I probably ranted to you in person ;-) )

Still for simplicity it may be easier to have a hangnail off of JBoss SX rather than 
try and make roles fit...  Ultimately at the JAAS level though, we have 
Subject->Principal and there is no necessity that these be roles per say.  someone 
should definitely look into this.  Think at least far enough in the future for IMAP 
but not much further as we can refactor later :-)

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[JBoss-dev] [Mail Services] - Re: mailboxes and authentication

2004-04-01 Thread acoliver
Yes, but remember that Entity is only one implementation.  In the future we'll 
hopefully have a Hibernate one, etc.  I don't want to now until there is more complete 
integration between JBoss and hibernate.  

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[JBoss-dev] [Mail Services] - Re: TODO: TLS and JBossSX integration

2004-04-01 Thread acoliver
It makes sense that they're harder sometimes than the code itself.  You're setting up 
inputs and testing outputs.  Often that is a much bigger task than processing the 
inputs.  Its worth it though.  

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[JBoss-dev] [Mail Services] - Re: Calendar Server proposal

2004-04-01 Thread acoliver
If you look at the "case for mail services" doc you'll see that calendar was planned 
from day one.

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[JBoss-dev] [Mail Services] - Re: Calendar Server proposal

2004-04-05 Thread acoliver
Just jump in man, grab the jboss-mail module.  See how the MBeans work.  Start 
combining the source base, submit it as a zip + patch files.  Once it looks good we'll 
make you a committer.

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[JBoss-dev] [Mail Services] - Re: Back and status query

2004-04-05 Thread acoliver
Okay, and I think Kabir fixed the most annoying bugs with remote/local mail.  So I 
plan to leave the remaining items to you guys so that you get more ownership in the 
code (Though I'll be doing testing and bug fixes most likely).  Meanwhile, I'm going 
to work on test cases, documentation and the stuff that often is overlooked on a 
release.  Guys, I want to say that I think you're awesome.  I've never worked with two 
relative open source newbies who came on board with the process so quickly and started 
cracking on code...especially code they didn't write from scratch.  Definitely keep it 
up, your efforts are appreciated!  We're going to kick some major butt!

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[JBoss-dev] [Benchmarking] - Re: Benchmark JBoss vs. WebLogic

2004-04-05 Thread acoliver
The BEA license prohibits you from downloading BEA and benchmarking it against JBoss 
and then publishing it.  You can find ones were BEA or IBM published their own 
benchmark against JBoss but of course they say what you expect.  

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[JBoss-dev] [Mail Services] - Re: Berkeley DB/Java

2004-04-05 Thread acoliver
So write a mail box implementation which uses it.

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[JBoss-dev] [Mail Services] - Re: JNDI access to java:/Mail from MDB

2004-04-05 Thread acoliver
please do not forumtise other topic in other forums.  It can be presumed that anyone 
interested is monitoring that forum for new topic or the mail list and will respond.

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[JBoss-dev] [Mail Services] - Re: TODO: Bounce Messages

2004-04-05 Thread acoliver
do it.

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[JBoss-dev] [Mail Services] - Re: JNDI access to java:/Mail from MDB

2004-04-05 Thread acoliver
When using community support you need to simply be patient and persistent.  IF you 
need a guarantee of service, you should purchase support.  Regardless, it is just not 
acceptable to forumtise other crossposts even if its really important to you "just 
this once".  I've found the most effective way to ensure that voluntary support is 
effective for me is to contribute to voluntary support.  

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[JBoss-dev] [Mail Services] - Re: Integration- bringing source code

2004-04-06 Thread acoliver
My main request is to keep the struts/web gui admin stuff seperate such that it 
doesn't HAVE to be installed.  I'm curious if the JBoss simple HTTP classloader server 
thingy could be used instead of tomcat where needed for the calendar protocol.  Mainly 
with the idea that sometimes you just want calendaring and don't want to install 
tomcat.

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[JBoss-dev] [Mail Services] - MailLog considered harmful and other bugfixes

2004-04-06 Thread acoliver
In the process of tracking down a bug I ran into the nasty mail log thing again.  It 
was a dumb idea when I implemented it.  Or rather it was a good idea with HORRIBLE 
tradeoffs.  I wanted to be able to turn on and off conversational logging from the JMX 
Console or some similar tool.  The nasty tradeoffs were: 

a divide between our normal log4j logging and this logging.
a disgusting amount of passing around MailLog references which made the code nasty

We do loose the functionality of a on and off switch but we still can turn 
conversational logging on and off at runtime with a mere log4j Appender and/ or grep 
for "LoggingInputStream" or "WrappedWriter".  Here is my log setup:

(normal with the addition near the end of)
  
  
 
 
 
 

 
   
  
  

Lastly the bug I tracked down was in AUTH method PLAIN (AUTH PLAIN).  A code change 
had assumed that the parameter to AUTH would have NO spaces after "AUTH " and 
concatanated it.  Acutally AUTH PLAIN takes a parameter after plain which is the users 
BASE64'd password.  This was being concatinated with PLAIN which made any client (such 
as mozilla's thunderbird mail client) just seem to hang.  Bummer.  I fixed the change 
to only kill carriage returns and tabs and the such.  It was MUCH easier after I 
simplified the logging.

Any other thoughts on this?  Objections?  Questions?  Comments?  Social Criticisims?

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[JBoss-dev] [Mail Services] - Re: MailLog considered harmful and other bugfixes

2004-04-06 Thread acoliver
the log4j sniplet I posted didn't come through all the way.  I'll repost it on the 
wiki when I write the docs for mail services M1.  This week I'm mostly testing, fixing 
bugs and writing docs (aka the dirty work).  I'm counting on you guys to nail the few 
final issues.

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[JBoss-dev] [Mail Services] - Re: Integration- bringing source code

2004-04-06 Thread acoliver
Okay, the ICal stuff should be seperate from the mail stuff in teh build.  Meaning  I 
should be able to deploy mail without iCal support.  JBoss doesn't always have Tomcat 
enabled.  Its more mainstream to not use the webcontainer than you think.  Just stick 
support in your build changes for NOT deploying the iCal stuff.  Note that I don't run 
mail services with any more than its basic dependencies and I suspect this will be a 
growing concern as we move on.  Anyhow, lets compromise.  Just add an "all" and a 
"calendar" module.  When we get webmail, it definitely won't always be enabled.  In 
fact I'm considering making the webmail more or less a nukes module.

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[JBoss-dev] [Mail Services] - Re: Integration- bringing source code

2004-04-06 Thread acoliver
BTW argument and conflict are good.  It makes each person think things through.  I 
understand things WAY better than I did when I asked what the protocols were and stuff 
:-).  People defend their arguments better than they explain things.  So I tell all 
contributors to mail services to fight with me.  :-) 

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[JBoss-dev] [Mail Services] - Re: Integration- bringing source code

2004-04-06 Thread acoliver
Excellent.  Also pay attention to source organization.  If we need more directories in 
order to keep the build.xml simple then thats fine.  maybe 
src/java/org/jboss/mail/calendar and src/web/org etc.  

The project development accelerated significantly once I had people to fight with :-)

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[JBoss-dev] [Mail Services] - Re: MailLog considered harmful and other bugfixes

2004-04-07 Thread acoliver
That is an AWESOME idea.

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[JBoss-dev] [Mail Services] - Re: TODO: Bounce Messages

2004-04-07 Thread acoliver
lets definitely kill the hardcoded ObjectName

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[JBoss-dev] [Mail Services] - Re: MailLog considered harmful and other bugfixes

2004-04-07 Thread acoliver
Lets put this off though.  We need to focus on getting M1 out and planning for what 
goes in M2.  I posted some ideas on the wiki (refined the planning).  It is ambitious 
but we can revise it as needed.

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[JBoss-dev] [Mail Services] - Re: MailLog considered harmful and other bugfixes

2004-04-07 Thread acoliver
add it as a detail somewhere on the plan on the wiki.  It should go *under* some 
bullet on a sub page or something.  (still working out what the format of that page 
should be but the first page should definitely be high level)

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[JBoss-dev] [Mail Services] - Re: TODO: Bounce Messages

2004-04-07 Thread acoliver
Kabir, you're the man dude.  M1 here we come.  I'm testing and writing doco for it.  
Make sure you're happy with your unit tests.  If you have time look at POP on TLS.  
Otherwise we can do that for M2.  Also take a look at the plan as revised on the wiki 
and make whatever changes you see are appropriate.  Where are you geographically BTW?

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[JBoss-dev] [Mail Services] - Re: TODO: Bounce Messages

2004-04-07 Thread acoliver
OOps.  I tried to bounce something basically I sent to an invalid local user.  I 
expected to get a bounce message delivered locally.  Instead, I got nothing

12:05:43,867 INFO  [LoggingInputStream] Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>\r\n
12:05:43,868 INFO  [LoggingInputStream] Date: Wed, 07 Apr 2004 15:56:57 -0400\r\n
12:05:43,868 INFO  [LoggingInputStream] From: Andy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>\r\n
12:05:43,868 INFO  [LoggingInputStream] Reply-To: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL 
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12:05:43,869 INFO  [LoggingInputStream] User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.5 
(Macintosh/20040208)\r\n
12:05:43,869 INFO  [LoggingInputStream] X-Accept-Language: en-us, en\r\n
12:05:43,869 INFO  [LoggingInputStream] MIME-Version: 1.0\r\n
12:05:43,869 INFO  [LoggingInputStream] To:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
12:05:43,869 INFO  [LoggingInputStream] Subject: test for bounce\r\n
12:05:43,870 INFO  [LoggingInputStream] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; 
format=flowed\r\n
12:05:43,870 INFO  [LoggingInputStream] Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit\r\n
12:05:43,870 INFO  [LoggingInputStream] \r\n
12:05:43,871 INFO  [Mail] all headers after loading: MailHeadersImpl (13): 
[hdr(Return-Path = 'Return-Path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>'), hdr(Received = 'Received: from 
badmojo.superlinksoftware.com (192.168.1.102 192.168.1.102) by 
badmojo.superlinksoftware.com (192.168.1.103)
with SMTP id 1081353943870412.3432450820011; Wed, 7 Apr 2004 12:05:43 -0400 
(EDT)'), hdr(Message-ID = 'Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>'), hdr(Date = 'Date: Wed, 
07 Apr 2004 15:56:57 -0400'), hdr(From = 'From: Andy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>'), 
hdr(Reply-To = 'Reply-To: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>'), hdr(User-Agent = 
'User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.5 (Macintosh/20040208)'), hdr(X-Accept-Language = 
'X-Accept-Language: en-us, en'), hdr(MIME-Version = 'MIME-Version: 1.0'), hdr(To = 
'To:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]'), hdr(Subject = 'Subject: test for bounce'), hdr(Content-Type 
= 'Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed'), 
hdr(Content-Transfer-Encoding = 'Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit')]
12:05:43,871 INFO  [LoggingInputStream] please bounce\r\n
12:05:43,871 INFO  [LoggingInputStream] .\r\n
12:05:43,871 INFO  [CmdDATA] sending mail to MailListener: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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[JBoss-dev] [Mail Services] - Re: TODO: Bounce Messages

2004-04-07 Thread acoliver
It looks like we're still not checking if the mailbox exists or should exist.  meaning 
we need to check to see if the user is a valid user before attempting to ACTUALLY 
deliver it.

INSERT INTO ENTITYMESSAGE VALUES('-3435249911893481455','brest','Return-Path: <[EMAIL 
PROTECTED]>\u000d\u000aReceived: from badmojo.superlinksoftware.com (192.168.1.102 
192.168.1.102) by badmojo.superlinksoftware.com (192.168.1.103)\u000d\u000a\u0009with 
SMTP id 1081353943870412.3432450820011; Wed, 7 Apr 2004 12:05:43 -0400 
(EDT)\u000d\u000aMessage-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>\u000d\u000aDate: Wed, 07 Apr 2004 
15:56:57 -0400\u000d\u000aFrom: Andy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>\u000d\u000aReply-To: "[EMAIL 
PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>\u000d\u000aUser-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.5 
(Macintosh/20040208)\u000d\u000aX-Accept-Language: en-us, en\u000d\u000aMIME-Version: 
1.0\u000d\u000aTo:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]: test for bounce\u000d\u000aContent-Type: 
text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed\u000d\u000aContent-Transfer-Encoding: 
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[JBoss-dev] [Mail Services] - Re: TODO: Bounce Messages

2004-04-07 Thread acoliver
Looking at it, I dont think this (ln 77):

if (ea.getLocal()) {
if (!deliver( mailboxManager, addresses[index], smtpMessage )){

in JMSMailListener ever fails.  I think what we should do is:

make JMSMailListener depend on the UserRepository.  If the user is local and he 
doesn't exist then fail him too.  Kabir, does that make sense?  If not let me know and 
I can take care of it.  We should create a unit test for this either now or for M2 
when the new client script runner stuff is ready (depending on whether we can poke it 
in a non-running instance which I admit may not be possible).

-Andy

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[JBoss-dev] [Mail Services] - Re: DomainGroup

2004-04-09 Thread acoliver
You can turn require-auth off in jboss-service.xml.  However then you'd be operating 
as an open relay and spammers would use you.  This restriction is ONLY for 
UN-authenticated users.  Meaning if I connect to your mail server, I can send YOU a 
mail regardless.  I can't send [EMAIL PROTECTED] a mail using YOUR mail server. 

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[JBoss-dev] [Mail Services] - Re: DomainGroup

2004-04-09 Thread acoliver
This was my bad.  the dev-deploy target on the build.xml wasn't including the 
remote-delivery mdb's jboss.xml descriptor.  You can just copy 
jboss-mail/src/ejb/remotedeliverymdb-jboss.xml to 
$JBOSS_HOME/server/default/deploy/mail.ear/remotedeliverymdb.jar/META-INF and then 
touch applciation.xml.  BTW, sorry for spamming you with a hundred test messages :-)  
Anyone using the regular deploy target shouldn't have been affected by this build bug.

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[JBoss-dev] [Mail Services] - TODO: dist target for release

2004-04-09 Thread acoliver
We need a dist target for releases.  It should work in a way similar to the dev-deploy 
only put it in a tar.gz under dist.

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[JBoss-dev] [Mail Services] - TODO: (post M1)

2004-04-09 Thread acoliver
I've been talking to Scott about JCA and JavaMail.  He's made a request as follows:

1. I want a JavaMail provider that supports the javax.mail.Session
object for sending mail through an smtp gateway. This should be an
mbean service built ontop of the mail services with a jca provider
that is used to bind the session into JNDI and integrate with security
just like a database connection does. A database connection can either
be bound to a single user, take the identity of the caller as the
connection identity, or take the connection identity as an argument to
the connection factory create.

2. The jca piece is part of the mbean providing the JavaMail Session
binding. Just having a simple smtp provider that is used in the same
fashion as we currently do with the sun provider does not promote
the JavaMail Session to the same level as JDBC connections. Further,
with the JCA 1.5, you have not only integration with the JAAS security
layer, you also have integration with the same connection pool and
threading
pools. 


This might make a lot of sense.  Anyone interested in taking this and seeing what it 
woudl take?  I'd like to wait on the JCA 1.5 stuff unless we can do it in such a way 
that we can build it seperately as Mail Services is presently intended to be 1.0 
probably prior to the JBoss 4.0 release and I'd like people to feel confident running 
it on 3.2.x.  Any takers?

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[JBoss-dev] [Mail Services] - Re: Berkeley DB/Java

2004-04-10 Thread acoliver
There was no point it is what it says.  He's here and he's cute! 

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[JBoss-dev] [Mail Services] - Re: TODO: (post M1)

2004-04-10 Thread acoliver
on mbeans, my answer:  Yes.

I think you're going in the right direction.  We can always get more scott-speak for 
how to tweak later.

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[JBoss-dev] [Mail Services] - Re: TODO: Bounce Messages

2004-04-10 Thread acoliver
Quotas will be mailbox implementation dependent.  It is not possible with some 
databases to determine the amount of storage per user.  We might be able to store the 
message size in the mailbox.  Actually that's a pretty good idea for DB mailboxes.  I 
agree though that isn't an M1 thing for sure.  Sounds good.  I'm continuing my testing 
so I'll definitely check it out.

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[JBoss-dev] [Mail Services] - Re: TODO: Bounce Messages

2004-04-11 Thread acoliver
Eventually I think it should be linked to the UserRepository and the Mailbox.  The 
more I think about it we can just calculate the present message size and store it in 
the mailbox.  We don't need to rely on underlying support.  We should support both 
"safe" and "fast" quotas.  Safe quotas are done as a (potentially slow) calculation 
(select sum(size) from entitymailbox where user=X) and fast quotas maintain a lookup 
table.  The reason one is safe and one is fast is that the lookup table could easily 
get out of synch.

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[JBoss-dev] [Mail Services] - Re: mail-forum nukes inaccuracy?

2004-04-11 Thread acoliver
It looks like you are correct.  A couple times I thought I saw something like that.

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[JBoss-dev] [Mail Services] - Re: Berkeley DB/Java

2004-04-11 Thread acoliver
thanks man.

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[JBoss-dev] [Mail Services] - Re: TODO: Script Runner

2004-04-11 Thread acoliver
It'll work fine with Junit.  I've done it before.  JAMES does something similar.  
JBoss even does something similar.  What won't work is multi-system testing.  For that 
we'll need yet another ant target which requires you to do your own set up.  That will 
be more like a Test kit than a set of unit tests.  This is more for testing more basic 
stuff that we can't test on a component basis.

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[JBoss-dev] [Mail Services] - Re: POP3 and TLS

2004-04-12 Thread acoliver
Yeah I think we should have SSL as well as TLS.  Of course I thought they were the 
same thing doh..   It seemed logical at the time to divide thread pools by protocol 
and port.  Would it now be more logical to make thread pools a seperate concept to be 
shared among port/protocol?  

By default TLS and SSL should be disabled.  I plan on putting instructions here: 
http://jboss.org/wiki/Wiki.jsp?page=MailServicesInstallingM1 as well as include them 
in the release.  The reason being is that I don't want people to think they have 
TLS/SSL without setting up a keystore, etc.

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[JBoss-dev] [Mail Services] - Re: TODO: Script Runner

2004-04-12 Thread acoliver
Its a great idea.  For unit test environments I'd rather not run on standard ports.  
The reasons should be obvious.  Port 9000 is likely used by nothing, port 25 is likely 
monitored by sendmail or something.  If we run the unit tests on port 9000, 
9001,9002,9004 we have a lot less pain.  I think this can wait till after M1.  I'm 
feeling we're ready for M1 with a few build changes and documentation.

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[JBoss-dev] [Mail Services] - Final tasks for M1

2004-04-12 Thread acoliver
Hi gang,

I feel we're ready for the release candidate with just a few small tasks to complete.  
I'll work on tweaking the build to put out a distribution.  I'm also working on 
completing the docs for M1 
(http://jboss.org/wiki/Wiki.jsp?page=MailServicesInstallingM1) and can use some help 
here.  The main thing I need help on is the TLS support.  I've been testing with 
satisfactory results, but am going out of town (to Atlanta yuck) to conduct a 
training.  

Lets aim for Milestone 1 release candidate 1 by the end of the week.  We won't widely 
advertise it but I'll be installing it on my system as my primary mail server.  If you 
don't hear from me, check and make sure its not your fault haha!  

Meanwhile lets start specing out M2.  Please don't target things for M2 that you 
couldn't personally complete/help complete by around May 15.  I think an essential 
part of this is going to be the Mail List support.  

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[JBoss-dev] [Mail Services] - M2 Spec'ing

2004-04-12 Thread acoliver
Let's discuss what we want for M2:

1. Mail Lists.  I'll head this up.  Once we have this ready we can start using Mail 
Services to run Marc's newsletter which should give us some good data on how well we 
handle volume.

2. POP/SSL.  Who wants this?  It seems that we can't just do starttls.

3. Figure out Security - We need to move towards something that makes sense.

4. Test kit.  We should all take part in this of course.  

5. Chainable Mail Listeners.  Mail Listeners should be either top level (like now) 
where ALL send the mail or chainable in some kind of pipeline where they can consume 
or not consume the mail.  This should be 

6. Nukes integration.  Once we get this we can start working on having the JBoss 
forums go two way.  This will give us the mother of all real world test cases.  We can 
live or die here.

7. Calendaring - Integrate the third party code.

8. Other backends for user repository (or whatever takes its place): EJB, LDAP, ??

What else?  Anything that shouldn't or can't be on the list?  What do you guys want to 
work on?  Can we do all of this inside of a month?

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[JBoss-dev] [Mail Services] - Re: M2 Spec'ing

2004-04-12 Thread acoliver
For nukes integration every forum should be subscribable essentially as a mail list.  
meaning I should be able to send to tis forum at [EMAIL PROTECTED] and receive 
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[JBoss-dev] [Mail Services] - Re: POP3 and TLS

2004-04-12 Thread acoliver
Yeah lets think of it around M3.

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[JBoss-dev] [Mail Services] - Re: M2 Spec'ing

2004-04-12 Thread acoliver
For M2 list management should just be MBean based.  It will definitely play into nukes 
integration but I want to get the basics working first.  My goal is to get this all 
replacing JBoss infrastructure ASAP as that will give us a really high volume user 
that will give us adequate bug reporting.

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[JBoss-dev] [Mail Services] - Re: M2 Spec'ing

2004-04-12 Thread acoliver
Sounds about right, I'm just scoping what we'll do for M2.

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[JBoss-dev] [Mail Services] - Re: Issue with From and To headers when sending to a remote

2004-04-12 Thread acoliver
Not sure where you said this but you said you weren't sure that multiple messages were 
delivered when two receipients were in the same domain (meaning andy at superlink and 
acoliver at superlink).  I said I'd test that.  I tested it and it worked.  Nice work 
dude.

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[JBoss-dev] [Mail Services] - Re: M2 Spec'ing

2004-04-14 Thread acoliver
We could make that an option but I think Julien was talking about integrating more 
with JBossSX so might be less productive than going that direction and meeting them 
there.

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[JBoss-dev] [Mail Services] - Re: TODO: (post M1)

2004-04-14 Thread acoliver
Gut says join the session but why do you feel we should create it.

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[JBoss-dev] [Mail Services] - Re: FakeInitialContext and java:/ root names

2004-04-14 Thread acoliver
Awsome, so its fixed?  That was driving me nuts.  Anything need to change in 
jndi.properties?

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[JBoss-dev] [Mail Services] - Re: FakeInitialContext and java:/ root names

2004-04-15 Thread acoliver
Calling the standard jboss InitialContext would have to connect to JBoss's naming 
service which we'd have to set up and bind stuff etc.  Might work just as well if we 
take server/default/conf/jndi.properties and do it locally and register it in the 
depends-service.xml but for some reason I couldn't get it to work when I tried.  I 
might have just left a step out so you could try it if you like.

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[JBoss-dev] [Mail Services] - Re: TODO: (post M1)

2004-04-15 Thread acoliver
IIUC, You're replacing the existing JavaMail implementation with poking mail directly 
into Mail Services.  

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[JBoss-dev] [Mail Services] - Re: TODO: (post M1)

2004-04-15 Thread acoliver
disregard, looks like you answered your own questions. :-)

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