Re: [JBoss-dev] hsqldb options

2003-03-29 Thread Micael
There is no good reason.

At 10:55 AM 3/29/03 -0500, you wrote:
Prompted by a customer, I did some experiments with hsqldb options.

Currently we specify a tcp port and require a hsqldb mbean to start the
hsqldb server.  This opens a port and requires explicit hsqldb shutdown.
Two other options that appear to work are:

specify url jdbc:hsqldb:. and remove the hsqldb mbean.  This results in a
totally in memory db, nothing saved to disk.  IMO this is appropriate for
most of the testsuite since it eliminates problems with data not being
cleaned  up between test runs.
specify url jdbc:hsqldb:somefile and remove the hsqldb mbean.  This results
in the db saved in a couple of files named like somefile.  No port is
opened.  No explicit shutdown of hsqldb  seems to be required (although I
didn't test how much data is actually saved)
Could someone who knows more about hsqldb  please explain clearly why we
would want to continue using the setup we  have now rather than one of the
tcp-port free options?
Thanks
david jencks
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[JBoss-dev] Web Application Deployment????

2002-09-20 Thread micael

When you deploy a web application utilizing Tomcat/Catalina with JBoss 3.0 
and Tomcat 4.0.3, how does JBoss work with the application.xml in the 
[JBOSS_HOME]/server/default/deploy/web-application.ear, if at all?

Micael

P.S.  The application.xml is in the web-applicationWEB-INF/application.xml 
directory.




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RE: [JBoss-dev] Recruiting new developers

2002-08-14 Thread micael


>
>you *are* crying.  Look there are really 3 ways to get seriously into
>the codebase.

No, I am not.  Trust me.

>1- Go dig bugs.  You can't imagine the number that still come out of the
>blue saying "bug here, fixed".  JBoss is not a magical whole with a
>magic formula where TADA you know it all. It is a collection of loosely
>coupled modules and some of the problems are skin deep.  Fixing bugs is
>the simplest way

This is an overview not available to those in the position I outlined.

>2- Buy the documentation (development). In fact that doco is really
>targeted at you guys, you can read all of it to know everything that is
>going on module by module.

Been there, did that.  The documentation was unfinished, blah, blah, 
without pre-advertising the fact, and not helpful.

>3- Come to a training and get certified.  Let's face it the only way you
>are going to spend a week solid learning about JBoss is if you take a
>week off and train yourself.  That is also how we make our living so
>really it is the best solution for everyone.

I realize you want to make money via training.  I wouldn't mind the trips 
myself, etc., etc.  I have wondered if you have decided to keep things dark 
for that purpose.  If I had the bucks to toss around, believe me I would do 
that, because I like to code more than I like to drink and to fish.  I love 
coding.

>FYI I gave 2 passwords RW JUST today, one to a person working on the XA
>stuff with David (bug fixing and good work) and the other one to a star
>student of the palma training who had already submitted 3 fixes and
>showed great understanding (shouldn't say "student" since michael is
>probaly 40 :).  Both are extremelly promising and producing top code.

That is great.  I could do well with a bit of training too.

>So stop crying, I am totally unimpressed by your "story", just get going
>and do it, there are many ways to get in.

Yah, I know if I want to "dedicate" myself to JBoss, that can be done.  I 
have to decide in my training where I put my priorities.  If the JBoss 
thing is going to take a lot of initial bucks for a lot of initial effort 
to get over a hump that could be easy down the line, with other things, I 
will wait.

>Get in, I hope to see you at the next hosted training.
>
>marcf

I would like to be at the next hosted training, scholarships (?). I would 
almost be willing to bet you the price of admission that I would be the 
best student, but my arrogance has been diluted a bit over the 
years.  Thanks for taking the time on this, I guess.  But, on the crying 
thing, screw you too.

Micael





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Re: [JBoss-dev] Recruiting new developers

2002-08-14 Thread micael

I think that sometimes people do not see the effort a newbie has put into 
something, because putting yourself into their place is also difficult, and 
is not so urgent, i.e. their pain is not your pain.  I paid to get 
documentation that turned out to be a work in progress and have never 
really gotten value for the money.  Maybe that has now changed.  The site 
sure looks better.  I downloaded the 3.0 start kit and will see.  But, I am 
not putting in more money until I make sure I am getting something 
back.  The sad thing is that I am a very talented coder who would love to 
be involved with coding on JBoss.  Well, not that sad.  I need to get a 
grip here.  ///;-)  Thanks for taking the time, Andreas.

At 04:36 PM 8/14/2002 -0700, you wrote:
>Hi
>
>Everyone is welcomed to write docu but only a few did so. I know to
>start with JBoss is difficult but I don't think that people don't welcome
>beginners (see the JBoss forum, the new JBoss 3.0 docu etc.) but user
>questions are not welcomed on the developer list (that is why it is a
>developer list).
>
>The only important step I expect for a newcomer is to show initiative.
>I hate questions like "please help I don't understand this" but I help if
>someone is coming with a questions that shows initiative. So first search
>on the JBoss forum (maybe the questions is already solved), then check
>the docu and finally go to the forum.
>
> > Another (additional) way would be to provide snappy and easy to read
> > introductions to the basic code layout in JBoss.  I am a Java Certified
> > Programmer, so I know a little about Java, and I have coded many large
> > sites, but know little about JBoss.  I came here to learn about a year ago
> > but left, not feeling welcome.  Not crying, just letting you know.  I have
> > a big interest in JBoss and am a real fan, but do not have time to climb
> > uphill to learn with you.  Hasta la differences?
>
>Have fun
>
>x
>Andreas Schaefer
>Senior Consultant
>JBoss Group, LLC
>x
>
>
>
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Re: [JBoss-dev] Recruiting new developers

2002-08-14 Thread micael

Another (additional) way would be to provide snappy and easy to read 
introductions to the basic code layout in JBoss.  I am a Java Certified 
Programmer, so I know a little about Java, and I have coded many large 
sites, but know little about JBoss.  I came here to learn about a year ago 
but left, not feeling welcome.  Not crying, just letting you know.  I have 
a big interest in JBoss and am a real fan, but do not have time to climb 
uphill to learn with you.  Hasta la differences?

At 02:28 PM 8/14/2002 -0400, you wrote:
>the most important thing we can do now is recruit the next generation of
>talent in JBoss.  New versions (in this case 3.0) have always been the
>way to recruit new developers.
>
>To do so I have put the TODO-DEVELOPMENT forum list high up in the
>forums listing.  Please use it to post your ideas and things that need
>to be done.  I know that everyone of the core developers has at least
>one idea in head.  Please post it to the TODO forum and see if someone
>picks it up then chaperone him (her).
>
>
>PLEASE GO AND POST ONE TODO TODAY :)
>
>marcf
>
>xx
>Marc Fleury, Ph.D.
>President, Founder
>JBoss Group, LLC
>xx
>
>
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