Re: [JBoss-dev] **README** - 'jboss-all' Structure Changes - **README**

2002-02-19 Thread Francisco Reverbel

I took hooked up as part of jboss-all and now realize it may not be
what you meant. Just did a fresh check out of jboss-all and got no iiop
subdir. Did I misunderstand something?

Thanks and cheers,

Francisco

On Mon, 18 Feb 2002, Jason Dillon wrote:

 This is done.
 
 --jason
 
 
 On Mon, 18 Feb 2002, Francisco Reverbel wrote:
 
  On 16 Feb 2002, Jason Dillon wrote:
 
   I have just committed the last of the structure changes that I am going
   to introduce until after 3.0 is released.
  
   This change includes:
  
... [snip]
  
o Addition of IIOP module.  This is not hooked up by default (yet).
 
  Could you please hook it up? As an optional module, like jboss.net.
 
  Cheers,
 
  Francisco
 
 
 
 


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Re: [JBoss-dev] **README** - 'jboss-all' Structure Changes - **README**

2002-02-19 Thread Jason Dillon

Sorry about that.  I thought I added that module to the list, but apparently
I did not.

Should be fixed now.

--jason


On Tue, 19 Feb 2002, Francisco Reverbel wrote:

 I took hooked up as part of jboss-all and now realize it may not be
 what you meant. Just did a fresh check out of jboss-all and got no iiop
 subdir. Did I misunderstand something?

 Thanks and cheers,

 Francisco

 On Mon, 18 Feb 2002, Jason Dillon wrote:

  This is done.
 
  --jason
 
 
  On Mon, 18 Feb 2002, Francisco Reverbel wrote:
 
   On 16 Feb 2002, Jason Dillon wrote:
  
I have just committed the last of the structure changes that I am going
to introduce until after 3.0 is released.
   
This change includes:
   
 ... [snip]
   
 o Addition of IIOP module.  This is not hooked up by default (yet).
  
   Could you please hook it up? As an optional module, like jboss.net.
  
   Cheers,
  
   Francisco
  
  
 
 



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Re: [JBoss-dev] **README** - 'jboss-all' Structure Changes - **README**

2002-02-18 Thread Francisco Reverbel

On 16 Feb 2002, Jason Dillon wrote:

 I have just committed the last of the structure changes that I am going
 to introduce until after 3.0 is released.
 
 This change includes:
 
  ... [snip]

  o Addition of IIOP module.  This is not hooked up by default (yet). 

Could you please hook it up? As an optional module, like jboss.net. 

Cheers,

Francisco



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RE: [JBoss-dev] **README** - 'jboss-all' Structure Changes - **README**

2002-02-18 Thread Ignacio Coloma

CVS newbie question:

How can someone know the optional packages on jboss? I mean, apart of
guessing on xml files and sniffing on the SourceForge interface.

Would be nice if someone puts something about this (including the _nice_ cvs
update -dP command) on the FAQs. Basic cvs is covered, but little more.

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 **README**


 On 16 Feb 2002, Jason Dillon wrote:

  I have just committed the last of the structure changes that I am going
  to introduce until after 3.0 is released.
 
  This change includes:
 
   ... [snip]
 
   o Addition of IIOP module.  This is not hooked up by default (yet).

 Could you please hook it up? As an optional module, like jboss.net.

 Cheers,

 Francisco



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Re: [JBoss-dev] **README** - 'jboss-all' Structure Changes - **README**

2002-02-18 Thread Jason Dillon

This is done.

--jason


On Mon, 18 Feb 2002, Francisco Reverbel wrote:

 On 16 Feb 2002, Jason Dillon wrote:

  I have just committed the last of the structure changes that I am going
  to introduce until after 3.0 is released.
 
  This change includes:
 
   ... [snip]
 
   o Addition of IIOP module.  This is not hooked up by default (yet).

 Could you please hook it up? As an optional module, like jboss.net.

 Cheers,

 Francisco




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Re: [JBoss-dev] **README** - 'jboss-all' Structure Changes -**README**

2002-02-17 Thread Scott M Stark

All these name changes are basically just screwing around
with semantic trivialities. Change these names back:

mq - messaging
resource - connector
plastic - j2ee

and do not make any more name changes without discussing
why it is necessary.

- Original Message -
From: Jason Dillon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Scott M Stark [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2002 11:46 PM
Subject: Re: [JBoss-dev] **README** - 'jboss-all' Structure
Changes -**README**


 On Sat, 2002-02-16 at 23:29, Scott M Stark wrote:
  
o Renamed 'messaging' to 'mq'.  I don't know what I was thinking
before
  when I used messaging.  Sorry.
  
  Messaging is a better name than mq.

 I figured the jbossmq folks would want something mq-like back.  I
 personally don't care too much... just had trouble typing messaging.

o Renamed 'connector' to 'resource' for clarity.
  
  Connector is more clearly associated with the JCA than resource.
  Leave this as connector.

 JCA uses javax.resource.* for its packaging.  They really should have
 called it JRCA, since it is for connecting resources.

 If you don't mind I would like to keep it as resource, as it makes it
 more logically to house standard adapters there.

 Basically its just a name, so I don't care too much.  I only made these
 changes because I thought that the current names were poor for what
 types of bits live in them.

o Renamed 'j2ee' to 'plastic' for clarity and to keep folks from
  thinking that is a j2ee impl.  It is just a module to hold our own
  imitation/synthetic/copy/plastic versions of Sun's API's
  
  What has plastic to do with standard j2ee interfaces? These are
  getting to be riduculous name changes so knock it off and change
  plastic back to j2ee.

 I figured someone was going to say something about this.  I had noticed
 that we are now providing JMX interfaces in a similar style to the j2ee
 interfaces.  Perhaps we will do the same in the future as well.  So in
 comes plastic, which is a module which only serves to hold these
 implementations.

 Perhaps I had picked up a little bit of an urge to have some spiffy
 macosx-like names from looking over the apple website lately.

 If you feel strongly about reverting I will.

 --jason



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Re: [JBoss-dev] **README** - 'jboss-all' Structure Changes-**README**

2002-02-17 Thread Jason Dillon

You are right.  I had a momentary lapse of reason (that lasted for more
than a moment actually).

I still think that we should find a better name for the j2ee module, but
there is only real motivation to do that if we move the jmx and other
apis in there too.

My apologies for my lack of sensibility on this matter.  I will have it
fixed shortly.

--jason


On Sun, 2002-02-17 at 00:24, Scott M Stark wrote:
 All these name changes are basically just screwing around
 with semantic trivialities. Change these names back:
 
 mq - messaging
 resource - connector
 plastic - j2ee
 
 and do not make any more name changes without discussing
 why it is necessary.
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Jason Dillon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Scott M Stark [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2002 11:46 PM
 Subject: Re: [JBoss-dev] **README** - 'jboss-all' Structure
 Changes -**README**
 
 
  On Sat, 2002-02-16 at 23:29, Scott M Stark wrote:
   
 o Renamed 'messaging' to 'mq'.  I don't know what I was thinking
 before
   when I used messaging.  Sorry.
   
   Messaging is a better name than mq.
 
  I figured the jbossmq folks would want something mq-like back.  I
  personally don't care too much... just had trouble typing messaging.
 
 o Renamed 'connector' to 'resource' for clarity.
   
   Connector is more clearly associated with the JCA than resource.
   Leave this as connector.
 
  JCA uses javax.resource.* for its packaging.  They really should have
  called it JRCA, since it is for connecting resources.
 
  If you don't mind I would like to keep it as resource, as it makes it
  more logically to house standard adapters there.
 
  Basically its just a name, so I don't care too much.  I only made these
  changes because I thought that the current names were poor for what
  types of bits live in them.
 
 o Renamed 'j2ee' to 'plastic' for clarity and to keep folks from
   thinking that is a j2ee impl.  It is just a module to hold our own
   imitation/synthetic/copy/plastic versions of Sun's API's
   
   What has plastic to do with standard j2ee interfaces? These are
   getting to be riduculous name changes so knock it off and change
   plastic back to j2ee.
 
  I figured someone was going to say something about this.  I had noticed
  that we are now providing JMX interfaces in a similar style to the j2ee
  interfaces.  Perhaps we will do the same in the future as well.  So in
  comes plastic, which is a module which only serves to hold these
  implementations.
 
  Perhaps I had picked up a little bit of an urge to have some spiffy
  macosx-like names from looking over the apple website lately.
 
  If you feel strongly about reverting I will.
 
  --jason
 
 
 
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Re: [JBoss-dev] **README** - 'jboss-all' Structure Changes-**README**

2002-02-17 Thread Jason Dillon

This is done.

--jason


On Sun, 2002-02-17 at 00:39, Jason Dillon wrote:
 You are right.  I had a momentary lapse of reason (that lasted for more
 than a moment actually).
 
 I still think that we should find a better name for the j2ee module, but
 there is only real motivation to do that if we move the jmx and other
 apis in there too.
 
 My apologies for my lack of sensibility on this matter.  I will have it
 fixed shortly.
 
 --jason
 
 
 On Sun, 2002-02-17 at 00:24, Scott M Stark wrote:
  All these name changes are basically just screwing around
  with semantic trivialities. Change these names back:
  
  mq - messaging
  resource - connector
  plastic - j2ee
  
  and do not make any more name changes without discussing
  why it is necessary.
  
  - Original Message -
  From: Jason Dillon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: Scott M Stark [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2002 11:46 PM
  Subject: Re: [JBoss-dev] **README** - 'jboss-all' Structure
  Changes -**README**
  
  
   On Sat, 2002-02-16 at 23:29, Scott M Stark wrote:

  o Renamed 'messaging' to 'mq'.  I don't know what I was thinking
  before
when I used messaging.  Sorry.

Messaging is a better name than mq.
  
   I figured the jbossmq folks would want something mq-like back.  I
   personally don't care too much... just had trouble typing messaging.
  
  o Renamed 'connector' to 'resource' for clarity.

Connector is more clearly associated with the JCA than resource.
Leave this as connector.
  
   JCA uses javax.resource.* for its packaging.  They really should have
   called it JRCA, since it is for connecting resources.
  
   If you don't mind I would like to keep it as resource, as it makes it
   more logically to house standard adapters there.
  
   Basically its just a name, so I don't care too much.  I only made these
   changes because I thought that the current names were poor for what
   types of bits live in them.
  
  o Renamed 'j2ee' to 'plastic' for clarity and to keep folks from
thinking that is a j2ee impl.  It is just a module to hold our own
imitation/synthetic/copy/plastic versions of Sun's API's

What has plastic to do with standard j2ee interfaces? These are
getting to be riduculous name changes so knock it off and change
plastic back to j2ee.
  
   I figured someone was going to say something about this.  I had noticed
   that we are now providing JMX interfaces in a similar style to the j2ee
   interfaces.  Perhaps we will do the same in the future as well.  So in
   comes plastic, which is a module which only serves to hold these
   implementations.
  
   Perhaps I had picked up a little bit of an urge to have some spiffy
   macosx-like names from looking over the apple website lately.
  
   If you feel strongly about reverting I will.
  
   --jason
  
  
  
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[JBoss-dev] **README** - 'jboss-all' Structure Changes - **README**

2002-02-16 Thread Jason Dillon

I have just committed the last of the structure changes that I am going
to introduce until after 3.0 is released.

This change includes:

 o Addition of (currently empty) ejb and system modules.
   These will be used to split up server into smaller more manageable
   components based on functionality.

 o Addition of IIOP module.  This is not hooked up by default (yet).

 o Renamed 'messaging' to 'mq'.  I don't know what I was thinking before
   when I used messaging.  Sorry.

 o Renamed 'connector' to 'resource' for clarity.

 o Renamed 'j2ee' to 'plastic' for clarity and to keep folks from  
   thinking that is a j2ee impl.  It is just a module to hold our own
   imitation/synthetic/copy/plastic versions of Sun's API's

 * * *

I added a build/fix-workspace.xml which should help automate the update
process ( as long as you read this email that is =P ).

You can always pull a fresh copy from cvs via:

  cvs get jboss-all

or you can:

  cd jboss-all
  ./build/build.sh -f fix-workspace.xml

This *should* take care of updating and submitting any open changes
prior and *should* fail if there is a conflict, but I have not tested
that.  I would suggest doing an update and commit before running this.

As always, let me know if there are any problems.  I am hoping that this
script will make it easier for folks to handle structure changes, which
will be crucial as JBoss gets bigger and better.

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Re: [JBoss-dev] **README** - 'jboss-all' Structure Changes - **README**

2002-02-16 Thread Scott M Stark

 
  o Renamed 'messaging' to 'mq'.  I don't know what I was thinking before
when I used messaging.  Sorry.
 
Messaging is a better name than mq.

  o Renamed 'connector' to 'resource' for clarity.
 
Connector is more clearly associated with the JCA than resource.
Leave this as connector.

  o Renamed 'j2ee' to 'plastic' for clarity and to keep folks from  
thinking that is a j2ee impl.  It is just a module to hold our own
imitation/synthetic/copy/plastic versions of Sun's API's
 
What has plastic to do with standard j2ee interfaces? These are
getting to be riduculous name changes so knock it off and change
plastic back to j2ee.



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Re: [JBoss-dev] **README** - 'jboss-all' Structure Changes -**README**

2002-02-16 Thread Jason Dillon

On Sat, 2002-02-16 at 23:29, Scott M Stark wrote:
  
   o Renamed 'messaging' to 'mq'.  I don't know what I was thinking before
 when I used messaging.  Sorry.
  
 Messaging is a better name than mq.

I figured the jbossmq folks would want something mq-like back.  I
personally don't care too much... just had trouble typing messaging.
 
   o Renamed 'connector' to 'resource' for clarity.
  
 Connector is more clearly associated with the JCA than resource.
 Leave this as connector.

JCA uses javax.resource.* for its packaging.  They really should have
called it JRCA, since it is for connecting resources.

If you don't mind I would like to keep it as resource, as it makes it
more logically to house standard adapters there.

Basically its just a name, so I don't care too much.  I only made these
changes because I thought that the current names were poor for what
types of bits live in them.

   o Renamed 'j2ee' to 'plastic' for clarity and to keep folks from  
 thinking that is a j2ee impl.  It is just a module to hold our own
 imitation/synthetic/copy/plastic versions of Sun's API's
  
 What has plastic to do with standard j2ee interfaces? These are
 getting to be riduculous name changes so knock it off and change
 plastic back to j2ee.

I figured someone was going to say something about this.  I had noticed
that we are now providing JMX interfaces in a similar style to the j2ee
interfaces.  Perhaps we will do the same in the future as well.  So in
comes plastic, which is a module which only serves to hold these
implementations.

Perhaps I had picked up a little bit of an urge to have some spiffy
macosx-like names from looking over the apple website lately.

If you feel strongly about reverting I will.

--jason


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Re: [JBoss-dev] **README** - 'jboss-all' Structure Changes -**README**

2002-02-16 Thread Jason Dillon

o Renamed 'messaging' to 'mq'.  I don't know what I was thinking before
  when I used messaging.  Sorry.
   
  Messaging is a better name than mq.
 
 I figured the jbossmq folks would want something mq-like back.  I
 personally don't care too much... just had trouble typing messaging.

I just re-read this and it sounds like I was just aimlessly changing
names, which I was not... though now that I think about it my reasons
for changing were not really solid enough to make the change.

Basically, messaging led me to think that all jms related bits should go
there... but that really isn't possible or desirable.  This leaded me to
change the name back to mq, as in jbossmq... but I hope to eventually
re-org the cvs repository (later) under jboss/* (so that cvs update will
work as expected) and I was hoping to avoid jboss/jboss* names.

So, I just wanted to comment that I did have a reason, which did make
some sense, or else I would have not put in the effort.  Though I do
realize now that it does not really matter either way.

--jason


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