Re: [JBoss-user] USING FORUMS INSTEAD OF LISTS
Hi, I didn't see this thread for a couple of days; it was buried in hundreds of forum postings that read like: Subject: [JBoss-user] [HTTPD, Servlets JSP] - Re: configuring jboss-3.2.3 for servlet View the original post : http://www.jboss.org/index.html?module=bbop=viewtopicp=3820946#3820946 Reply to the post : http://www.jboss.org/index.html?module=bbop=postingmode=replyp=3820946 LOL As others have already noted, the current model breaks MUA threading and (unless you have the luxury of a high resolution screen) gives subject headings that display as (random example): [JBoss-user] [Installation Configuration] - Isap Sadly, I barely have time to skim relevant postings (if I can find them now), let alone write some better code to manage this problem. So, sadly I can't offer a solution; I merely note that moving the list away from the successful model used for other open projects to one that better suits the JBoss developers has made it pretty much unusable for many of us. Cheers all, Roy. On Sun, 8 Feb 2004 at 12:15pm, Rupp, Heiko wrote: Marc, ML at the moment have the advantage for me that I can read/answer them offline (e.g. while being on a plane or at the airport. But then, I am from Old Europe (TM) :-) My opinions, not my employer's. -- Roy Britten National Institute of Water and Atmospheric Research PO Box 8602, Christchurch, New Zealand P: +64-3-343-7818 F: +64-3-348-5548 http://www.niwa.co.nz --- SF.Net is sponsored by: Speed Start Your Linux Apps Now. Build and deploy apps Web services for Linux with a free DVD software kit from IBM. Click Now! http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=1356alloc_id=3438op=click ___ JBoss-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-user
Re: [JBoss-user] USING FORUMS INSTEAD OF LISTS
I agree that it isn't perfect. Its just everyone is so busy with other things right now. How about giving us a hand with that stuff. I have some ideas that might work (using mail services of course! http://jboss.org/wiki/Wiki.jsp?page=MailServicesForJBoss) We might even be able to enable postback relatively easily. Not sure how this will integrate with sourceforge, but we might be able to do something relatively seamless. Let me know if you're interested in pitching in. -Andy From: Roy Britten [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2004 10:10:09 +1300 (New Zealand Daylight Time) To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [JBoss-user] USING FORUMS INSTEAD OF LISTS Hi, I didn't see this thread for a couple of days; it was buried in hundreds of forum postings that read like: Subject: [JBoss-user] [HTTPD, Servlets JSP] - Re: configuring jboss-3.2.3 for servlet View the original post : http://www.jboss.org/index.html?module=bbop=viewtopicp=3820946#3820946 Reply to the post : http://www.jboss.org/index.html?module=bbop=postingmode=replyp=3820946 LOL As others have already noted, the current model breaks MUA threading and (unless you have the luxury of a high resolution screen) gives subject headings that display as (random example): [JBoss-user] [Installation Configuration] - Isap Sadly, I barely have time to skim relevant postings (if I can find them now), let alone write some better code to manage this problem. So, sadly I can't offer a solution; I merely note that moving the list away from the successful model used for other open projects to one that better suits the JBoss developers has made it pretty much unusable for many of us. Cheers all, Roy. On Sun, 8 Feb 2004 at 12:15pm, Rupp, Heiko wrote: Marc, ML at the moment have the advantage for me that I can read/answer them offline (e.g. while being on a plane or at the airport. But then, I am from Old Europe (TM) :-) My opinions, not my employer's. -- Roy Britten National Institute of Water and Atmospheric Research PO Box 8602, Christchurch, New Zealand P: +64-3-343-7818 F: +64-3-348-5548 http://www.niwa.co.nz --- SF.Net is sponsored by: Speed Start Your Linux Apps Now. Build and deploy apps Web services for Linux with a free DVD software kit from IBM. Click Now! http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=1356alloc_id=3438op=click ___ JBoss-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-user --- SF.Net is sponsored by: Speed Start Your Linux Apps Now. Build and deploy apps Web services for Linux with a free DVD software kit from IBM. Click Now! http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=1356alloc_id=3438op=click ___ JBoss-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-user
Re: [JBoss-user] USING FORUMS INSTEAD OF LISTS
Title: RE: [JBoss-user] USING FORUMS INSTEAD OF LISTS Actually, thereis some mail2news gateway software out there for at least a decade. So to turn the ML into a nntp feed is just a simple matter of configuring. Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] im Auftrag von Marc FleuryGesendet: Sa 07.02.2004 18:32An: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Betreff: RE: [JBoss-user] USING FORUMS INSTEAD OF LISTS Anders,The mail integration is what we need today. Already the answers on the forums have been multiplied 10 fold as the core guys start answering again. It enables us to know when a post has been made and go to the forums to answer. Maximum impact.NNTP integration is a nice to have for a minority, hence a *very* low priority. If you are interested in NNTP integration today it would be nice if you contributed something.marcf -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Anders Engström Sent: Saturday, February 07, 2004 5:43 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [JBoss-user] USING FORUMS INSTEAD OF LISTS On Fri, Feb 06, 2004 at 11:59:06AM -0600, Marc Fleury wrote: Guys, [snip] Thanks for your help guys, again PLEASE USE THE FORUMS. How about that nntp support? Is it working yet? I, for one, won't waste any time on browsing around a web-GUI when there's better ways to follow a list (email, nntp). we are fully dedicated to making your JBoss experience as nice as possible. Integrating the mailing list and the forums is a good step in that direction. But *please* don't go Microsoft on us and force us to use one and only one frontend to the discussion. [snip] //Anders -- . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Anders Engström [EMAIL PROTECTED] . http://www.gnejs.net PGP-Key: ED010E7F . [Your mind is like an umbrella. It doesn't work unless you open it.]---The SF.Net email is sponsored by EclipseCon 2004Premiere Conference on Open Tools Development and IntegrationSee the breadth of Eclipse activity. February 3-5 in Anaheim, CA.http://www.eclipsecon.org/osdn___JBoss-user mailing list[EMAIL PROTECTED]https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-user
Re: [JBoss-user] USING FORUMS INSTEAD OF LISTS
Title: [JBoss-user] USING FORUMS INSTEAD OF LISTS Marc, ML at the moment have the advantage for me that I can read/answer them offline (e.g. while being on a plane or at the airport. But then, I am from Old Europe (TM) :-) Cheers Heiko
RE: [JBoss-user] USING FORUMS INSTEAD OF LISTS
Title: [JBoss-user] USING FORUMS INSTEAD OF LISTS ML you can read offline and that is good. For the answer you would still need to be online as building the post back to the forums is not on our todo lists with a high priority, thanks for making the effort guys, it gives people more answers and that is a good thing (tm) marcf From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rupp, HeikoSent: Sunday, February 08, 2004 6:15 AMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: [JBoss-user] USING FORUMS INSTEAD OF LISTS Marc, ML at the moment have the advantage for me that I can read/answer them offline (e.g. while being on a plane or at the airport. But then, I am from Old Europe (TM) :-) Cheers Heiko
Re: [JBoss-user] USING FORUMS INSTEAD OF LISTS
On Fri, Feb 06, 2004 at 11:59:06AM -0600, Marc Fleury wrote: Guys, [snip] Thanks for your help guys, again PLEASE USE THE FORUMS. How about that nntp support? Is it working yet? I, for one, won't waste any time on browsing around a web-GUI when there's better ways to follow a list (email, nntp). we are fully dedicated to making your JBoss experience as nice as possible. Integrating the mailing list and the forums is a good step in that direction. But *please* don't go Microsoft on us and force us to use one and only one frontend to the discussion. [snip] //Anders -- . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Anders Engström [EMAIL PROTECTED] . http://www.gnejs.netPGP-Key: ED010E7F . [Your mind is like an umbrella. It doesn't work unless you open it.] signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: [JBoss-user] USING FORUMS INSTEAD OF LISTS
yOn Sat, 7 Feb 2004, Anders Engström wrote: On Fri, Feb 06, 2004 at 11:59:06AM -0600, Marc Fleury wrote: Guys, [snip] Thanks for your help guys, again PLEASE USE THE FORUMS. How about that nntp support? Did you start implementing it already? -- Juha --- The SF.Net email is sponsored by EclipseCon 2004 Premiere Conference on Open Tools Development and Integration See the breadth of Eclipse activity. February 3-5 in Anaheim, CA. http://www.eclipsecon.org/osdn ___ JBoss-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-user
RE: [JBoss-user] USING FORUMS INSTEAD OF LISTS
You mean: CIYMF :) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Juha Lindfors Sent: Saturday, February 07, 2004 1:36 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [JBoss-user] USING FORUMS INSTEAD OF LISTS yOn Sat, 7 Feb 2004, Anders Engström wrote: On Fri, Feb 06, 2004 at 11:59:06AM -0600, Marc Fleury wrote: Guys, [snip] Thanks for your help guys, again PLEASE USE THE FORUMS. How about that nntp support? Did you start implementing it already? -- Juha --- The SF.Net email is sponsored by EclipseCon 2004 Premiere Conference on Open Tools Development and Integration See the breadth of Eclipse activity. February 3-5 in Anaheim, CA. http://www.eclipsecon.org/osdn ___ JBoss-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-user --- The SF.Net email is sponsored by EclipseCon 2004 Premiere Conference on Open Tools Development and Integration See the breadth of Eclipse activity. February 3-5 in Anaheim, CA. http://www.eclipsecon.org/osdn ___ JBoss-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-user
RE: [JBoss-user] USING FORUMS INSTEAD OF LISTS
yes, it took great effort to write the alternative answer On Sat, 7 Feb 2004, Sacha Labourey wrote: You mean: CIYMF :) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Juha Lindfors Sent: Saturday, February 07, 2004 1:36 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [JBoss-user] USING FORUMS INSTEAD OF LISTS yOn Sat, 7 Feb 2004, Anders Engström wrote: On Fri, Feb 06, 2004 at 11:59:06AM -0600, Marc Fleury wrote: Guys, [snip] Thanks for your help guys, again PLEASE USE THE FORUMS. How about that nntp support? Did you start implementing it already? -- Juha --- The SF.Net email is sponsored by EclipseCon 2004 Premiere Conference on Open Tools Development and Integration See the breadth of Eclipse activity. February 3-5 in Anaheim, CA. http://www.eclipsecon.org/osdn ___ JBoss-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-user --- The SF.Net email is sponsored by EclipseCon 2004 Premiere Conference on Open Tools Development and Integration See the breadth of Eclipse activity. February 3-5 in Anaheim, CA. http://www.eclipsecon.org/osdn ___ JBoss-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-user -- Juha Lindfors Director of Training http://www.jboss.com --- The SF.Net email is sponsored by EclipseCon 2004 Premiere Conference on Open Tools Development and Integration See the breadth of Eclipse activity. February 3-5 in Anaheim, CA. http://www.eclipsecon.org/osdn ___ JBoss-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-user
Re: [JBoss-user] USING FORUMS INSTEAD OF LISTS
On Sat, Feb 07, 2004 at 02:35:36PM +0200, Juha Lindfors wrote: yOn Sat, 7 Feb 2004, Anders Engström wrote: On Fri, Feb 06, 2004 at 11:59:06AM -0600, Marc Fleury wrote: Guys, [snip] Thanks for your help guys, again PLEASE USE THE FORUMS. How about that nntp support? Did you start implementing it already? Nntp support for the forums have been discussed a long time. I think I remember someone saying something about this being under development a while ago. What's wrong about asking that question? [M.Fleury] we are fully dedicated to making your JBoss experience as nice as possible. ..especially after that statement. //Anders -- . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Anders Engström [EMAIL PROTECTED] . http://www.gnejs.netPGP-Key: ED010E7F . [Your mind is like an umbrella. It doesn't work unless you open it.] signature.asc Description: Digital signature
RE: [JBoss-user] USING FORUMS INSTEAD OF LISTS
Anders, The mail integration is what we need today. Already the answers on the forums have been multiplied 10 fold as the core guys start answering again. It enables us to know when a post has been made and go to the forums to answer. Maximum impact. NNTP integration is a nice to have for a minority, hence a *very* low priority. If you are interested in NNTP integration today it would be nice if you contributed something. marcf -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Anders Engström Sent: Saturday, February 07, 2004 5:43 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [JBoss-user] USING FORUMS INSTEAD OF LISTS On Fri, Feb 06, 2004 at 11:59:06AM -0600, Marc Fleury wrote: Guys, [snip] Thanks for your help guys, again PLEASE USE THE FORUMS. How about that nntp support? Is it working yet? I, for one, won't waste any time on browsing around a web-GUI when there's better ways to follow a list (email, nntp). we are fully dedicated to making your JBoss experience as nice as possible. Integrating the mailing list and the forums is a good step in that direction. But *please* don't go Microsoft on us and force us to use one and only one frontend to the discussion. [snip] //Anders -- . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Anders Engström [EMAIL PROTECTED] . http://www.gnejs.netPGP-Key: ED010E7F . [Your mind is like an umbrella. It doesn't work unless you open it.] --- The SF.Net email is sponsored by EclipseCon 2004 Premiere Conference on Open Tools Development and Integration See the breadth of Eclipse activity. February 3-5 in Anaheim, CA. http://www.eclipsecon.org/osdn ___ JBoss-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-user
Re: [JBoss-user] USING FORUMS INSTEAD OF LISTS
Thanks for thy answer. On Sat, Feb 07, 2004 at 11:32:53AM -0600, Marc Fleury wrote: Anders, The mail integration is what we need today. Already the answers on the forums have been multiplied 10 fold as the core guys start answering again. It enables us to know when a post has been made and go to the forums to answer. Maximum impact. Fwuw - the core guys have always been on the mailing list. NNTP integration is a nice to have for a minority, hence a *very* low priority. If you are interested in NNTP integration today it would be nice if you contributed something. I'd be very happy to contribute to a forum-nntp gateway. [M.Fleury] Integrating the mailing list and the forums is a good step in that direction. But *please* don't go Microsoft on us and force us to use one and only one frontend to the discussion. But thy failed to respond to this (IMO important) paragraprh. //Anders -- . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Anders Engström [EMAIL PROTECTED] . http://www.gnejs.netPGP-Key: ED010E7F . [Your mind is like an umbrella. It doesn't work unless you open it.] signature.asc Description: Digital signature
[JBoss-user] USING FORUMS INSTEAD OF LISTS
Guys, As you may have noticed there was sudden increase of email traffic on user and dev. The reason is that we are forwarding all posts from the forums online, which run on JBoss NUKES btw, to the mailing list. This is a good thing (TM) as it pings us the developers by email and prompts us to respond. I know I for one have responded when I hadn't responded on user for a long time ;). It will bring the usability of the forums up as well. WHAT I WANT YOU GUYS TO DO (please), is to post on FORUMS instead of here directly, I know a lot of you still use mailing directly thinking you will get a faster answer. It is the same with the forums now as it all ends up here. You will still get the answers here as the forums post here. The advantage is that we can categorize all the questions you post as all forums are split by topic, we also store it all in a database under NUKES so it will increase the search accuracy. Thanks for your help guys, again PLEASE USE THE FORUMS, we are fully dedicated to making your JBoss experience as nice as possible. marcf PS: sales-pitch THERE IS A JBOSS TRAINING IN HOUSTON in 10 days, this is the advanced training. I recommend you guys sign up for that one soon as it is the only training US in Q1. So go and sign today at www.jboss.org (link is houston adv on top right). The price is $3000 for 4 days of intense JBoss training. We hope to see you there, Scott and Alex are giving the training. talk-pitch January 24 WE WILL BE AT THE AUSTIN JUG TALK. So be sure to show up. --- The SF.Net email is sponsored by EclipseCon 2004 Premiere Conference on Open Tools Development and Integration See the breadth of Eclipse activity. February 3-5 in Anaheim, CA. http://www.eclipsecon.org/osdn ___ JBoss-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-user
