RE: [JBoss-user] multiple instances of jboss

2003-11-21 Thread Clover, James
>Would this be the preferred option over JBoss clustering?
"JBoss Clustering" is the added features that you use on top of multiple
VMs, such as replicated HTTP sessions and clustered JNDI to make your
multi-VM environment seem like a single VM.  If your applications don't
need these features, they you don't need "clusters", although you may
still get notable performance improvements with multiple VMs.

>BTW. What is the most servers you can effectively cluster using the
JBoss clustering?
Not sure.  I'm not actually planning on using most of the clustering
features.  I'd be very interested in anyone who has done large clusters
and what they've seen.

James

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On Thu, Nov 20, 2003 at 12:34:00PM -0800, Clover, James wrote:
>Right.  Applications that are strictly CPU-bound don't necessarily
>require multiple VMs on the same machine.  However, if your
>application is bound on something else, such as database or file
I/O,
>you can get a huge improvement by running multiple copies on the
same
>hardware.

Would this be the preferred option over JBoss clustering?

BTW. What is the most servers you can effectively cluster using the
JBoss clustering?



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Re: [JBoss-user] multiple instances of jboss

2003-11-20 Thread Alwyn Schoeman
On Thu, Nov 20, 2003 at 12:34:00PM -0800, Clover, James wrote:
>Right.  Applications that are strictly CPU-bound don't necessarily
>require multiple VMs on the same machine.  However, if your
>application is bound on something else, such as database or file I/O,
>you can get a huge improvement by running multiple copies on the same
>hardware.

Would this be the preferred option over JBoss clustering?

BTW. What is the most servers you can effectively cluster using the JBoss
clustering?

> 
> 
> 
>James
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RE: [JBoss-user] multiple instances of jboss

2003-11-20 Thread Clover, James
Title: Message



Right.  Applications that are strictly CPU-bound don't necessarily 
require multiple VMs on the same machine.  However, if your application is 
bound on something else, such as database or file I/O, you can get a huge 
improvement by running multiple copies on the same hardware.
 
James

  
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  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rod 
  MacphersonSent: Thursday, November 20, 2003 6:54 AMTo: 
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  instances of jboss
  Having multiple JVMs running can boost performance because you have 
  separate garbage collectors and you can use as much memory as your system will 
  allow rather than tapping out at 2G. Serialized code that (synchronized) can 
  be distributed to gain parallelism when one JVM is blocked. 
   
  Having multiple configurations running is also a beneift. You can 
  maintain, say, a JMS configuration and an EJB configuration and a separate 
  HTTP configuration and so on. You can then mix and match by launching the 
  configurations you want in parallel. A little easier to maintain that way. 
  
   
  Having multiple versions or customer-specific versions of your 
  application running on a single box for testing will also save your IT 
  department from having to configure multiple servers and dedicate each to 
  one JBoss configuration. This is a huge benefit when you have a lot of 
  applications or different versions of them to test. 
   
  
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jboss
I am really confused as to why one would run multiple 
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I've run load tests against three concurrent instances, and have 
had>    no>    problems.  
I've got plans to run up to eight on a single machine, 
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all.>>    Just make sure your port 
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RE: [JBoss-user] multiple instances of jboss

2003-11-20 Thread Rod Macpherson
Having multiple JVMs running can boost performance because you have separate garbage 
collectors and you can use as much memory as your system will allow rather than 
tapping out at 2G. Serialized code that (synchronized) can be distributed to gain 
parallelism when one JVM is blocked. 
 
Having multiple configurations running is also a beneift. You can maintain, say, a JMS 
configuration and an EJB configuration and a separate HTTP configuration and so on. 
You can then mix and match by launching the configurations you want in parallel. A 
little easier to maintain that way. 
 
Having multiple versions or customer-specific versions of your application running on 
a single box for testing will also save your IT department from having to configure 
multiple servers and dedicate each to one JBoss configuration. This is a huge benefit 
when you have a lot of applications or different versions of them to test. 
 

-Original Message- 
From: Alwyn Schoeman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wed 11/19/2003 7:03 PM 
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Subject: Re: [JBoss-user] multiple instances of jboss



I am really confused as to why one would run multiple instances on the same
hardware? Could someone please explain?

On Tue, Nov 18, 2003 at 04:22:18AM +0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>I'm much more peaceful now knowing that I'm not the only one... :)
>
>Thanks James.
>
>-Original Message-
>From: Clover, James [[1]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Sent: Lunes, 17 de Noviembre de 2003 01:28 tarde
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
        >    Subject: RE: [JBoss-user] multiple instances of jboss
>
>I've run load tests against three concurrent instances, and have had
>no
>problems.  I've got plans to run up to eight on a single machine, so
>you're
>not crazy at all.
>
>Just make sure your port configuration stuff is setup properly.
>
>James
>
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>
>Hi everybody, anyone knows how is the perfomance of 5 instances of
>jboss
>running together? Is it possible or am I crazy?
>Of course, I will optimize the configuration to startup only
>the
>necessary libs...
>
>Saludos,
>Hernán.
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Re: [JBoss-user] multiple instances of jboss

2003-11-19 Thread Weiqi Gao
On Wed, 2003-11-19 at 21:03, Alwyn Schoeman wrote:
> 
> I am really confused as to why one would run multiple instances on the same
> hardware? Could someone please explain?

You might want to run multiple instances of JBoss if you want to run the
*same* application (ear file) twice, for different configurations.  For
example, the same billing system for two different companies.

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Re: [JBoss-user] multiple instances of jboss

2003-11-19 Thread Alwyn Schoeman
I am really confused as to why one would run multiple instances on the same
hardware? Could someone please explain?

On Tue, Nov 18, 2003 at 04:22:18AM +0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>I'm much more peaceful now knowing that I'm not the only one... :)
> 
>Thanks James.
> 
>-Original Message-
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>Sent: Lunes, 17 de Noviembre de 2003 01:28 tarde
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>    Subject: RE: [JBoss-user] multiple instances of jboss
> 
>I've run load tests against three concurrent instances, and have had
>no
>problems.  I've got plans to run up to eight on a single machine, so
>you're
>not crazy at all.
> 
>Just make sure your port configuration stuff is setup properly.
> 
>James
> 
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>Hi everybody, anyone knows how is the perfomance of 5 instances of
>jboss
>running together? Is it possible or am I crazy?
>Of course, I will optimize the configuration to startup only
>the
>necessary libs...
> 
>Saludos,
>Hernán.
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RE: [JBoss-user] multiple instances of jboss

2003-11-17 Thread hernan . terzian
I'm much more peaceful now knowing that I'm not the only one... :)

Thanks James.

-Original Message-
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I've run load tests against three concurrent instances, and have had no
problems.  I've got plans to run up to eight on a single machine, so you're
not crazy at all.

Just make sure your port configuration stuff is setup properly.

James

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Hi everybody, anyone knows how is the perfomance of 5 instances of jboss
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Of course, I will optimize the configuration to startup only the
necessary libs...

Saludos,
Hernán.


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RE: [JBoss-user] multiple instances of jboss

2003-11-17 Thread Rod Macpherson
Using multihome support in JBoss 3.2.2 you can ignore ports and use a different host 
for each instance. The only caveat is that you must remove snmp-service.sar since that 
still creates bind errors but other than that it's a snap. You can fire up as many 
instances of JBoss as memory will permit by providing additional IP addresses and then 
passing in that IP address (or hostname if you bind it in your hosts file) using the 
Jbos --host switch. 

Needless to say you only need one JBoss install and then you create a configuration 
for each instance of JBoss you want to run simultaneously. Then execute the run script 
passing in a different configuration with -c and a hostname with --host. You could run 
the same configuration on multiple hosts or any combo thereof depending on your needs. 
Very nice feature with plenty of useful applications. 

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I've run load tests against three concurrent instances, and have had no problems.  
I've got plans to run up to eight on a single machine, so you're not crazy at all.

Just make sure your port configuration stuff is setup properly.

James

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Hi everybody, anyone knows how is the perfomance of 5 instances of jboss running 
together? Is it possible or am I crazy?
Of course, I will optimize the configuration to startup only the necessary 
libs...

Saludos,
Hernán.


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RE: [JBoss-user] multiple instances of jboss

2003-11-17 Thread Clover, James
I've run load tests against three concurrent instances, and have had no problems.  
I've got plans to run up to eight on a single machine, so you're not crazy at all.

Just make sure your port configuration stuff is setup properly.

James

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Hi everybody, anyone knows how is the perfomance of 5 instances of jboss running 
together? Is it possible or am I crazy?
Of course, I will optimize the configuration to startup only the necessary 
libs...

Saludos,
Hernán.


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[JBoss-user] multiple instances of jboss

2003-11-17 Thread hernan . terzian
Hi everybody, anyone knows how is the perfomance of 5 instances of jboss
running together? Is it possible or am I crazy?
Of course, I will optimize the configuration to startup only the
necessary libs...

Saludos,
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Re: [JBoss-user] multiple instances of jboss on one server

2003-08-19 Thread Bruce Scharlau
At 14:02 18/08/2003 +0100, you wrote:
The -c option is only really intended for configs in the
jboss distribution.
You should use
-Djboss.home.dir=whatver
For the ports, investigate the binding service.

Regards,
Adrian
Adrian,

thanks for that. It works now. I did have to amend the run.sh file to 
include all of the jars under jboss_home/lib as part of the 
jboss_startup_classpath, and then it worked. Now, as you say I need to work 
out something for the ports.

cheers,

Bruce

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Re: [JBoss-user] multiple instances of jboss on one server

2003-08-18 Thread Adrian Brock
The -c option is only really intended for configs in the
jboss distribution. 

You should use
-Djboss.home.dir=whatver

For the ports, investigate the binding service.

Regards,
Adrian

On Mon, 2003-08-18 at 10:21, Bruce Scharlau wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> I though I'd had this sorted before, but it doesn't seem to work now.
> 
> I've put one copy of jboss-3.2.1 in one location of a solaris server, say 
> /local/jboss-3.2.1 this has everything BUT the server directory itself. It 
> has full r+w+x permissions.
> The server/default directory is under /home/userx/server/default.
> 
> I used to be able to start such a server from the jboss-3.2.1/bin directory 
> with a run.sh -c /home/userx/server/default command and simultaneously, 
> someone else could
> run the server with run.sh -c /home/usery/server/default.
> 
> Now, when I do it I get errors because the server can't find or open 
> jboss-service.xml.
> This also works with windows when you use run -c ..\..\..\..server\default.
> 
> The only catch of course is to ensure that people don't use each other's ports.
> My goal is to set this up so that anyone can come and use the install of 
> jboss without having to set up the port bindings in advance, as most of the 
> time it will work ok as there are only a few of us who use jboss regularly. 
> The benefit comes in when it's used in classes and we then hand out the 
> 'server' part to students and most of the heavy stuff doesn't need to sit 
> in their directories and use up their workspace.
> 
> Any clues and suggestions appreciated.
> 
> 
> cheers,
> 
> Bruce
> 
> Dr. Bruce Scharlau
> Dept. of Computing Science
> University of Aberdeen
> Aberdeen AB24 3UE
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[JBoss-user] multiple instances of jboss on one server

2003-08-18 Thread Bruce Scharlau
Hi all,

I though I'd had this sorted before, but it doesn't seem to work now.

I've put one copy of jboss-3.2.1 in one location of a solaris server, say 
/local/jboss-3.2.1 this has everything BUT the server directory itself. It 
has full r+w+x permissions.
The server/default directory is under /home/userx/server/default.

I used to be able to start such a server from the jboss-3.2.1/bin directory 
with a run.sh -c /home/userx/server/default command and simultaneously, 
someone else could
run the server with run.sh -c /home/usery/server/default.

Now, when I do it I get errors because the server can't find or open 
jboss-service.xml.
This also works with windows when you use run -c ..\..\..\..server\default.

The only catch of course is to ensure that people don't use each other's ports.
My goal is to set this up so that anyone can come and use the install of 
jboss without having to set up the port bindings in advance, as most of the 
time it will work ok as there are only a few of us who use jboss regularly. 
The benefit comes in when it's used in classes and we then hand out the 
'server' part to students and most of the heavy stuff doesn't need to sit 
in their directories and use up their workspace.

Any clues and suggestions appreciated.

cheers,

Bruce

Dr. Bruce Scharlau
Dept. of Computing Science
University of Aberdeen
Aberdeen AB24 3UE
01224 272193
http://www.csd.abdn.ac.uk/~bscharla
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