RE: can't start slaves anymore, ssh auth failing - FIXED

2013-05-06 Thread Haszlakiewicz, Eric

Oh, I suppose that explains it.
Well ssh favors the rsa key too, but ssh doesn't give up if the first key 
doesn't work.  If the ssh slaves plugin, or the credentials plugin, or whatever 
actually controls this is stopping after trying the first key then that's a 
pretty significant regression.
I'll try to verify that it actually works like that, and create a bug for it if 
so.

Eric


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Subject: Re: can't start slaves anymore, ssh auth failing - FIXED

It favours rsa if present

On Friday, 3 May 2013, Haszlakiewicz, Eric wrote:

Well, I finally managed to get it working.  I deleted all the existing 
credentials, and added a new one.  I then had to go edit each of my node 
configurations and explicitly specify the new credential configuration.

Also, using the From the Jenkins master ~/.ssh under Manage Credentials 
didn't work at all.  I had to explicitly specify the path to the .ssh/id_dsa 
key file.

ugh, what a pain.

Eric

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  [mailto:jenkinsci-UrlBlockedError.aspx On Friday, 3
  May 2013, Jonathan Rogers wrote:
  Stephen Connolly wrote:
   On Thursday, 2 May 2013, JonathanRRogers wrote:
   0.23 and 0.24 have a race condition where there is a 10-15% chance
   that you will loose your credentials after rebooting the first time
   post installation.
  
   0.25 should be fine.
 
  Are you saying that upgrading from 0.22 to 0.25 is transparent?
 
  Should be... The plugin will pickup your credentials from your slave
  configuration and add them to the credentials store, consolidating
  where that makes sense. IOW the upgrade should result in everything
  still working as before
 
  If it doesn't then that's a bug, but nobody has alerted me to issues
  with that upgrade path.

 I seem to have ended up with 9 entries on the Manage Credentials page,
 most with From a file on Jenkins master selected, but with no way to
 indicate the file to use.
 Is this what happens when that race condition is hit?
 I guess I'll try upgrading again, then removing and re-adding some
 credentials.

 Eric

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Re: can't start slaves anymore, ssh auth failing

2013-05-03 Thread Stephen Connolly
On Friday, 3 May 2013, Jonathan Rogers wrote:

 Stephen Connolly wrote:
 
 
  On Thursday, 2 May 2013, JonathanRRogers wrote:
 
  On Thursday, May 2, 2013 2:50:44 PM UTC-4, LesMikesell wrote:
 
  On Thu, May 2, 2013 at 1:26 PM, Kevin Fleming (BLOOMBERG/ 731
  LEXIN)
  kpfl...@bloomberg.net javascript:; wrote:
   This change would not have been in the Jenkins changelog,
  because it wasn't
   technically a Jenkins change. It's a change in the SSH
  Slaves plugin.
 
  Shouldn't something note when the things distributed with the
  core
  package change in ways that affect behavior?   Or are all users
  supposed to know the internal workflow across all the plugins?
 
 
  I'm glad I came across this thread while I'm still on version
  0.22. I'll make sure not to upgrade to a version which breaks
  things so fundamentally.
 
 
  0.23 and 0.24 have a race condition where there is a 10-15% chance
  that you will loose your credentials after rebooting the first time
  post installation.
 
  0.25 should be fine.
 

 Are you saying that upgrading from 0.22 to 0.25 is transparent?


Should be... The plugin will pickup your credentials from your slave
configuration and add them to the credentials store, consolidating where
that makes sense. IOW the upgrade should result in everything still working
as before

If it doesn't then that's a bug, but nobody has alerted me to issues with
that upgrade path.


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Re: can't start slaves anymore, ssh auth failing

2013-05-03 Thread Les Mikesell
On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 2:15 AM, Stephen Connolly
stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com wrote:

 Are you saying that upgrading from 0.22 to 0.25 is transparent?


 Should be... The plugin will pickup your credentials from your slave
 configuration and add them to the credentials store, consolidating where
 that makes sense. IOW the upgrade should result in everything still working
 as before

 If it doesn't then that's a bug, but nobody has alerted me to issues with
 that upgrade path.

Can you describe what is supposed to happen in this upgrade?I
just did an rpm update from a 1.5.00-1.1 (non LTS) to  LTS 1.509.1-1
and none of the ssh-started slaves are working.   The first one I've
looked at has a configuration under 'Launch slave agents on Unix
machines via SSH' that says Host: 1722.22.181.77,  Credentials:
jenkins (172.22.181.78)  so I suspect something went wrong there

This is a non-critical test instance, but I'd like to understand what
is supposed to happen before breaking a production system.  I might
have had a mix of systems using the ~jenkins/.ssh/ key and explicitly
entered passwords before in case that matters, but none of them work
now

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RE: can't start slaves anymore, ssh auth failing

2013-05-03 Thread Haszlakiewicz, Eric
 -Original Message-
 From: jenkinsci-users@googlegroups.com [mailto:jenkinsci-
 On Friday, 3 May 2013, Jonathan Rogers wrote:
   Stephen Connolly wrote:
On Thursday, 2 May 2013, JonathanRRogers wrote:
0.23 and 0.24 have a race condition where there is a 10-15% chance
that you will loose your credentials after rebooting the first time
post installation.
   
0.25 should be fine.
 
   Are you saying that upgrading from 0.22 to 0.25 is transparent?
 
 Should be... The plugin will pickup your credentials from your slave
 configuration and add them to the credentials store, consolidating where
 that makes sense. IOW the upgrade should result in everything still working
 as before
 
 If it doesn't then that's a bug, but nobody has alerted me to issues with that
 upgrade path.

I seem to have ended up with 9 entries on the Manage Credentials page, most 
with From a file on Jenkins master selected, but with no way to indicate the 
file to use.
Is this what happens when that race condition is hit?
I guess I'll try upgrading again, then removing and re-adding some credentials.

Eric


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RE: can't start slaves anymore, ssh auth failing - FIXED

2013-05-03 Thread Haszlakiewicz, Eric

Well, I finally managed to get it working.  I deleted all the existing 
credentials, and added a new one.  I then had to go edit each of my node 
configurations and explicitly specify the new credential configuration.

Also, using the From the Jenkins master ~/.ssh under Manage Credentials 
didn't work at all.  I had to explicitly specify the path to the .ssh/id_dsa 
key file.

ugh, what a pain.

Eric

 -Original Message-
 From: jenkinsci-users@googlegroups.com [mailto:jenkinsci-
 us...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Haszlakiewicz, Eric
  -Original Message-
  From: jenkinsci-users@googlegroups.com [mailto:jenkinsci- On Friday, 3
  May 2013, Jonathan Rogers wrote:
  Stephen Connolly wrote:
   On Thursday, 2 May 2013, JonathanRRogers wrote:
   0.23 and 0.24 have a race condition where there is a 10-15% chance
   that you will loose your credentials after rebooting the first time
   post installation.
  
   0.25 should be fine.
 
  Are you saying that upgrading from 0.22 to 0.25 is transparent?
 
  Should be... The plugin will pickup your credentials from your slave
  configuration and add them to the credentials store, consolidating
  where that makes sense. IOW the upgrade should result in everything
  still working as before
 
  If it doesn't then that's a bug, but nobody has alerted me to issues
  with that upgrade path.
 
 I seem to have ended up with 9 entries on the Manage Credentials page,
 most with From a file on Jenkins master selected, but with no way to
 indicate the file to use.
 Is this what happens when that race condition is hit?
 I guess I'll try upgrading again, then removing and re-adding some
 credentials.
 
 Eric


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Re: can't start slaves anymore, ssh auth failing

2013-05-03 Thread Les Mikesell
On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 2:19 PM, Les Mikesell lesmikes...@gmail.com wrote:

 If it doesn't then that's a bug, but nobody has alerted me to issues with
 that upgrade path.

 Can you describe what is supposed to happen in this upgrade?I
 just did an rpm update from a 1.5.00-1.1 (non LTS) to  LTS 1.509.1-1
 and none of the ssh-started slaves are working.

Part of this may have involved the peculiar upgrade path here.   The
initial error (which I can't reproduce now) had to do with some method
not being found.  Updating the Credentials and SSH Credentials plugins
fixed that error, but only one slave started with the auto-converted
credentials.  I had to re-enter them for the others.Some of the
production slaves are maintained by others so I don't have the
passwords or keys.   Is there something I can do to fix things up from
the existing file contents if the production upgrade has similar
problems?

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Re: can't start slaves anymore, ssh auth failing

2013-05-03 Thread Stephen Connolly
Hmmm, not sure as once it has tried to transition to the new config it
saves the new config so that it can be applied. I'll have a look through
the code again. Most likely it will be Tuesday before I can take a look
though


On 3 May 2013 22:34, Les Mikesell lesmikes...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 2:19 PM, Les Mikesell lesmikes...@gmail.com
 wrote:

  If it doesn't then that's a bug, but nobody has alerted me to issues
 with
  that upgrade path.
 
  Can you describe what is supposed to happen in this upgrade?I
  just did an rpm update from a 1.5.00-1.1 (non LTS) to  LTS 1.509.1-1
  and none of the ssh-started slaves are working.

 Part of this may have involved the peculiar upgrade path here.   The
 initial error (which I can't reproduce now) had to do with some method
 not being found.  Updating the Credentials and SSH Credentials plugins
 fixed that error, but only one slave started with the auto-converted
 credentials.  I had to re-enter them for the others.Some of the
 production slaves are maintained by others so I don't have the
 passwords or keys.   Is there something I can do to fix things up from
 the existing file contents if the production upgrade has similar
 problems?

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Re: can't start slaves anymore, ssh auth failing - FIXED

2013-05-03 Thread Stephen Connolly
It favours rsa if present

On Friday, 3 May 2013, Haszlakiewicz, Eric wrote:


 Well, I finally managed to get it working.  I deleted all the existing
 credentials, and added a new one.  I then had to go edit each of my node
 configurations and explicitly specify the new credential configuration.

 Also, using the From the Jenkins master ~/.ssh under Manage Credentials
 didn't work at all.  I had to explicitly specify the path to the
 .ssh/id_dsa key file.

 ugh, what a pain.

 Eric

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  [mailto:jenkinsci-javascript:;
  us...@googlegroups.com javascript:;] On Behalf Of Haszlakiewicz, Eric
   -Original Message-
   From: jenkinsci-users@googlegroups.com javascript:; [mailto:
 jenkinsci- javascript:; On Friday, 3
   May 2013, Jonathan Rogers wrote:
   Stephen Connolly wrote:
On Thursday, 2 May 2013, JonathanRRogers wrote:
0.23 and 0.24 have a race condition where there is a 10-15%
 chance
that you will loose your credentials after rebooting the first
 time
post installation.
   
0.25 should be fine.
  
   Are you saying that upgrading from 0.22 to 0.25 is transparent?
  
   Should be... The plugin will pickup your credentials from your slave
   configuration and add them to the credentials store, consolidating
   where that makes sense. IOW the upgrade should result in everything
   still working as before
  
   If it doesn't then that's a bug, but nobody has alerted me to issues
   with that upgrade path.
 
  I seem to have ended up with 9 entries on the Manage Credentials page,
  most with From a file on Jenkins master selected, but with no way to
  indicate the file to use.
  Is this what happens when that race condition is hit?
  I guess I'll try upgrading again, then removing and re-adding some
  credentials.
 
  Eric



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Re: can't start slaves anymore, ssh auth failing

2013-05-02 Thread CHAVANNE Robert
Hello Eric,
We had the same kind of problem.
I think you should take a look at manage Credentials in manage Jenkins. 
We had to create credential to fix the issue.
I hope it can help.

Regards,
Robert



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Re: can't start slaves anymore, ssh auth failing

2013-05-02 Thread Stephen Connolly
Ensure you are on ssh-slaves 0.25 or newer as 0.23 and 0.24 can forget the
credentials any time you reboot due to a race condition


On 2 May 2013 16:43, CHAVANNE Robert robert.chava...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hello Eric,
 We had the same kind of problem.
 I think you should take a look at manage Credentials in manage Jenkins.
 We had to create credential to fix the issue.
 I hope it can help.

 Regards,
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RE: can't start slaves anymore, ssh auth failing

2013-05-02 Thread Haszlakiewicz, Eric
eh?  I now need to manage my credentials within Jenkins, instead of just the 
contents of my .ssh directory?  Well that's a pretty huge change, and I didn't 
see any mention of it in the main changelog. :(
I guess I'll take a look and see what I need to configure there.  Thanks for 
the pointer.

Eric

 -Original Message-
 From: jenkinsci-users@googlegroups.com [mailto:jenkinsci-
 us...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of CHAVANNE Robert
 Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2013 10:43 AM
 To: jenkinsci-users@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: can't start slaves anymore, ssh auth failing
 
 Hello Eric,
 We had the same kind of problem.
 I think you should take a look at manage Credentials in manage Jenkins.
 We had to create credential to fix the issue.
 I hope it can help.
 
 Regards,
 Robert
 



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RE: can't start slaves anymore, ssh auth failing

2013-05-02 Thread Haszlakiewicz, Eric
 -Original Message-
 From: jenkinsci-users@googlegroups.com [mailto:jenkinsci-
 
 Ensure you are on ssh-slaves 0.25 or newer as 0.23 and 0.24 can forget the
 credentials any time you reboot due to a race condition

I actually rolled back to 0.22 to get things working, but I'll try upgrading 
again when I get a chance.

Eric

 On 2 May 2013 16:43, CHAVANNE Robert robert.chava...@gmail.com
 wrote:
   Hello Eric,
   We had the same kind of problem.
   I think you should take a look at manage Credentials in manage
 Jenkins.
   We had to create credential to fix the issue.
   I hope it can help.
 
   Regards,
   Robert



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RE: can't start slaves anymore, ssh auth failing

2013-05-02 Thread Kevin Fleming (BLOOMBERG/ 731 LEXIN)
This change would not have been in the Jenkins changelog, because it wasn't 
technically a Jenkins change. It's a change in the SSH Slaves plugin.

- Original Message -
From: jenkinsci-users@googlegroups.com
To: jenkinsci-users@googlegroups.com
At: May  2 2013 14:13:22
 -Original Message-
 From: jenkinsci-users@googlegroups.com [mailto:jenkinsci-
 
 Ensure you are on ssh-slaves 0.25 or newer as 0.23 and 0.24 can forget the
 credentials any time you reboot due to a race condition


I actually rolled back to 0.22 to get things working, but I'll try upgrading 
again when I get a chance.


Eric


 On 2 May 2013 16:43, CHAVANNE Robert robert.chava...@gmail.com
 wrote:
   Hello Eric,
   We had the same kind of problem.
   I think you should take a look at manage Credentials in manage
 Jenkins.
   We had to create credential to fix the issue.
   I hope it can help.
 
   Regards,
   Robert

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Re: can't start slaves anymore, ssh auth failing

2013-05-02 Thread Les Mikesell
On Thu, May 2, 2013 at 1:26 PM, Kevin Fleming (BLOOMBERG/ 731 LEXIN)
kpflem...@bloomberg.net wrote:
 This change would not have been in the Jenkins changelog, because it wasn't
 technically a Jenkins change. It's a change in the SSH Slaves plugin.

Shouldn't something note when the things distributed with the core
package change in ways that affect behavior?   Or are all users
supposed to know the internal workflow across all the plugins?

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Re: can't start slaves anymore, ssh auth failing

2013-05-02 Thread JonathanRRogers
On Thursday, May 2, 2013 2:50:44 PM UTC-4, LesMikesell wrote:

 On Thu, May 2, 2013 at 1:26 PM, Kevin Fleming (BLOOMBERG/ 731 LEXIN) 
 kpfl...@bloomberg.net javascript: wrote: 
  This change would not have been in the Jenkins changelog, because it 
 wasn't 
  technically a Jenkins change. It's a change in the SSH Slaves plugin. 

 Shouldn't something note when the things distributed with the core 
 package change in ways that affect behavior?   Or are all users 
 supposed to know the internal workflow across all the plugins? 


I'm glad I came across this thread while I'm still on version 0.22. I'll 
make sure not to upgrade to a version which breaks things so fundamentally. 

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Re: can't start slaves anymore, ssh auth failing

2013-05-02 Thread Stephen Connolly
On Thursday, 2 May 2013, Haszlakiewicz, Eric wrote:

 eh?  I now need to manage my credentials within Jenkins, instead of just
 the contents of my .ssh directory?


If you have all they keys Jenkins needs in your .ssh directory then this
makes your life easier... You just tell it to use those credentials.

If you don't then this makes your life easier.

It is a great pity that nobody tested 0.23 (or the -SNAPSHOT with the
credentials change available since jan.)

With greater testing the race condition that can cause migrated credentials
to get lost would have been caught and fixed.

As soon as I spotted the issue, I fixed it and cut the 0.25 release.

Well that's a pretty huge change, and I didn't see any mention of it in the
 main changelog. :(

I guess I'll take a look and see what I need to configure there.


Shouldn't have to configure anything if you go 0.22-0.25

It just makes it easier to share credential config across build slaves and
also use those credentials for other ssh related build steps


  Thanks for the pointer.

 Eric

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  To: jenkinsci-users@googlegroups.com javascript:;
  Subject: Re: can't start slaves anymore, ssh auth failing
 
  Hello Eric,
  We had the same kind of problem.
  I think you should take a look at manage Credentials in manage Jenkins.
  We had to create credential to fix the issue.
  I hope it can help.
 
  Regards,
  Robert
 



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Re: can't start slaves anymore, ssh auth failing

2013-05-02 Thread Stephen Connolly
On Thursday, 2 May 2013, JonathanRRogers wrote:

 On Thursday, May 2, 2013 2:50:44 PM UTC-4, LesMikesell wrote:

 On Thu, May 2, 2013 at 1:26 PM, Kevin Fleming (BLOOMBERG/ 731 LEXIN)
 kpfl...@bloomberg.net wrote:
  This change would not have been in the Jenkins changelog, because it
 wasn't
  technically a Jenkins change. It's a change in the SSH Slaves plugin.

 Shouldn't something note when the things distributed with the core
 package change in ways that affect behavior?   Or are all users
 supposed to know the internal workflow across all the plugins?


 I'm glad I came across this thread while I'm still on version 0.22. I'll
 make sure not to upgrade to a version which breaks things so fundamentally.


0.23 and 0.24 have a race condition where there is a 10-15% chance that you
will loose your credentials after rebooting the first time post
installation.

0.25 should be fine.

This is mostly a UI change, thought the consolidation makes life easier
when you need to change credentials in bulk for slaves.

A similar change will be coming down the line for, eg subversion, git, etc
(the blocker for now being getting a consistent credential type for the
many auth mechanisms for the scm systems)

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Re: can't start slaves anymore, ssh auth failing

2013-05-02 Thread Jonathan Rogers
Stephen Connolly wrote:


 On Thursday, 2 May 2013, JonathanRRogers wrote:

 On Thursday, May 2, 2013 2:50:44 PM UTC-4, LesMikesell wrote:

 On Thu, May 2, 2013 at 1:26 PM, Kevin Fleming (BLOOMBERG/ 731
 LEXIN)
 kpfl...@bloomberg.net wrote:
  This change would not have been in the Jenkins changelog,
 because it wasn't
  technically a Jenkins change. It's a change in the SSH
 Slaves plugin.

 Shouldn't something note when the things distributed with the
 core
 package change in ways that affect behavior?   Or are all users
 supposed to know the internal workflow across all the plugins?


 I'm glad I came across this thread while I'm still on version
 0.22. I'll make sure not to upgrade to a version which breaks
 things so fundamentally.


 0.23 and 0.24 have a race condition where there is a 10-15% chance
 that you will loose your credentials after rebooting the first time
 post installation.

 0.25 should be fine.


Are you saying that upgrading from 0.22 to 0.25 is transparent?
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