Re: reading DSL script from file for BUILD FLOW PLUGIN

2015-02-26 Thread Les Mikesell
On Thu, Feb 26, 2015 at 8:41 AM, Jesse Glick jgl...@cloudbees.com wrote:
 On Thursday, February 12, 2015 at 10:43:28 AM UTC-5, LesMikesell wrote:

 With workflow, if you trigger another build, how do you access that
 other build object?  For example to find the build number so you can
 copy its artifacts into the workflow job.Or find the SVN_REVISION
 so you can trigger other builds of that same revision?


 This area is still relatively weak in Workflow, so I plan to add more
 features here.

 https://issues.jenkins-ci.org/browse/JENKINS-26100
 https://issues.jenkins-ci.org/browse/JENKINS-25851


Is there some reason workflow isn't just a superset of build flow,
adding control of workspaces and inlining?   What's the point of
having open source if everyone starts over from scratch whenever they
have a new idea anyway?   Or, why aren't both of these just class
libraries for the groovy plugin with an easy way to add new ones for
common high-level operations?

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Re: reading DSL script from file for BUILD FLOW PLUGIN

2015-02-26 Thread Jesse Glick
On Thursday, February 12, 2015 at 10:43:28 AM UTC-5, LesMikesell wrote:

 With workflow, if you trigger another build, how do you access that 
 other build object?  For example to find the build number so you can 
 copy its artifacts into the workflow job.Or find the SVN_REVISION 
 so you can trigger other builds of that same revision?


This area is still relatively weak in Workflow, so I plan to add more 
features here.

https://issues.jenkins-ci.org/browse/JENKINS-26100
https://issues.jenkins-ci.org/browse/JENKINS-25851

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Re: reading DSL script from file for BUILD FLOW PLUGIN

2015-02-26 Thread Baptiste Mathus
2015-02-26 17:09 GMT+01:00 Les Mikesell lesmikes...@gmail.com:

 On Thu, Feb 26, 2015 at 8:41 AM, Jesse Glick jgl...@cloudbees.com wrote:
  On Thursday, February 12, 2015 at 10:43:28 AM UTC-5, LesMikesell wrote:
 
  With workflow, if you trigger another build, how do you access that
  other build object?  For example to find the build number so you can
  copy its artifacts into the workflow job.Or find the SVN_REVISION
  so you can trigger other builds of that same revision?
 
 
  This area is still relatively weak in Workflow, so I plan to add more
  features here.
 
  https://issues.jenkins-ci.org/browse/JENKINS-26100
  https://issues.jenkins-ci.org/browse/JENKINS-25851
 

 Is there some reason workflow isn't just a superset of build flow,


The explanation you ask for has already been given here and there on the ML.

IIRC, Build flow plugin has been deemed a dead-end by its creator (Nicolas
De Loof, IIRC). That always happens in our field.
But that experience has somehow also served as another feedback to create a
far broader-scoped plugin.


 adding control of workspaces and inlining?   What's the point of
 having open source if everyone starts over from scratch whenever they
 have a new idea anyway?   Or, why aren't both of these just class
 libraries for the groovy plugin with an easy way to add new ones for
 common high-level operations?


Many reasons already given I guess (suspendable, etc.)

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Re: reading DSL script from file for BUILD FLOW PLUGIN

2015-02-26 Thread Jesse Glick
On Thursday, February 26, 2015 at 2:55:17 PM UTC-5, Baptiste Mathus wrote:

 why aren't both of these just class
 libraries for the groovy plugin with an easy way to add new ones for
 common high-level operations?


 Many reasons already given I guess (suspendable, etc.)


Right, the requirement for durability alone totally precluded use of any 
Build Flow code. 

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Re: reading DSL script from file for BUILD FLOW PLUGIN

2015-02-12 Thread Muhammad Faizan-Ul-Haq
Ahan,

I am going to look into workflow plugin after upgrading my jenkins to 
latest version

Thanks for answering guys.

Regards,


On Wednesday, February 11, 2015 at 5:11:28 PM UTC+1, Muhammad Faizan-Ul-Haq 
wrote:

 Hi,

 I have started using BUILD FLOW PLUGIN for job orchestration. 
 Now the DSL in my job configuration has become quite lengthy and it is 
 becoming difficult to maintain it there.
 I want to move it to my repository (SVN) and read it from file. 

 I understood that it is possible to read it form file but I am missing the 
 syntax ?
 What should be the file extension and how to invoke it.

 any help would be appreciated and sorry for posting such a naive question.

 Faizan


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RE: reading DSL script from file for BUILD FLOW PLUGIN

2015-02-12 Thread Ginga, Dick
I know that this thread is wandering but I too and a little worried about the 
Build Flow plugin being replaced. I hope that I can just drop my Build Flow 
statements into a workflow step and they will run unaltered.

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Subject: Re: reading DSL script from file for BUILD FLOW PLUGIN


Why would you be sad? I know more the workflow plugin than the build flow, but 
seems to me you should be able to do the same things as easily with the 
workflow plugin, but it's just designed to be able to do much much more. With 
the workflow plugin you can also trigger another build.
I'm actually pretty sad about this, the build flow plugin is pretty simple to 
use, especially for orchestrating multiple jobs which I don't want to pull into 
a single job.

On Wed Feb 11 2015 at 2:55:07 PM Baptiste Mathus 
m...@batmat.netmailto:m...@batmat.net wrote:

Build flow is on the way to deprecation. The workflow plugin is the one to use. 
It's standard with this one to use a scm URL for your workflow declaration 
(through combobox+textfield for your scm url and you're done).

Cheers
Le 11 févr. 2015 17:11, Muhammad Faizan-Ul-Haq 
faiza...@gmail.commailto:faiza...@gmail.com a écrit :

Hi,

I have started using BUILD FLOW PLUGIN for job orchestration.
Now the DSL in my job configuration has become quite lengthy and it is becoming 
difficult to maintain it there.
I want to move it to my repository (SVN) and read it from file.

I understood that it is possible to read it form file but I am missing the 
syntax ?
What should be the file extension and how to invoke it.

any help would be appreciated and sorry for posting such a naive question.

Faizan
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Re: reading DSL script from file for BUILD FLOW PLUGIN

2015-02-12 Thread Baptiste Mathus
Why would you be sad? I know more the workflow plugin than the build flow,
but seems to me you should be able to do the same things as easily with the
workflow plugin, but it's just designed to be able to do much much more.
With the workflow plugin you can also trigger another build.
I'm actually pretty sad about this, the build flow plugin is pretty simple
to use, especially for orchestrating multiple jobs which I don't want to
pull into a single job.

On Wed Feb 11 2015 at 2:55:07 PM Baptiste Mathus m...@batmat.net wrote:

 Build flow is on the way to deprecation. The workflow plugin is the one to
 use. It's standard with this one to use a scm URL for your workflow
 declaration (through combobox+textfield for your scm url and you're done).

 Cheers
 Le 11 févr. 2015 17:11, Muhammad Faizan-Ul-Haq faiza...@gmail.com a
 écrit :

 Hi,

 I have started using BUILD FLOW PLUGIN for job orchestration.
 Now the DSL in my job configuration has become quite lengthy and it is
 becoming difficult to maintain it there.
 I want to move it to my repository (SVN) and read it from file.

 I understood that it is possible to read it form file but I am missing
 the syntax ?
 What should be the file extension and how to invoke it.

 any help would be appreciated and sorry for posting such a naive question.

 Faizan

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Re: reading DSL script from file for BUILD FLOW PLUGIN

2015-02-12 Thread Les Mikesell
On Thu, Feb 12, 2015 at 6:35 AM, Baptiste Mathus m...@batmat.net wrote:
 Why would you be sad? I know more the workflow plugin than the build flow,
 but seems to me you should be able to do the same things as easily with the
 workflow plugin, but it's just designed to be able to do much much more.
 With the workflow plugin you can also trigger another build.

With workflow, if you trigger another build, how do you access that
other build object?  For example to find the build number so you can
copy its artifacts into the workflow job.Or find the SVN_REVISION
so you can trigger other builds of that same revision?

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reading DSL script from file for BUILD FLOW PLUGIN

2015-02-11 Thread Muhammad Faizan-Ul-Haq
Hi,

I have started using BUILD FLOW PLUGIN for job orchestration. 
Now the DSL in my job configuration has become quite lengthy and it is 
becoming difficult to maintain it there.
I want to move it to my repository (SVN) and read it from file. 

I understood that it is possible to read it form file but I am missing the 
syntax ?
What should be the file extension and how to invoke it.

any help would be appreciated and sorry for posting such a naive question.

Faizan

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Re: reading DSL script from file for BUILD FLOW PLUGIN

2015-02-11 Thread Slide
I'm actually pretty sad about this, the build flow plugin is pretty simple
to use, especially for orchestrating multiple jobs which I don't want to
pull into a single job.

On Wed Feb 11 2015 at 2:55:07 PM Baptiste Mathus m...@batmat.net wrote:

 Build flow is on the way to deprecation. The workflow plugin is the one to
 use. It's standard with this one to use a scm URL for your workflow
 declaration (through combobox+textfield for your scm url and you're done).

 Cheers
 Le 11 févr. 2015 17:11, Muhammad Faizan-Ul-Haq faiza...@gmail.com a
 écrit :

 Hi,

 I have started using BUILD FLOW PLUGIN for job orchestration.
 Now the DSL in my job configuration has become quite lengthy and it is
 becoming difficult to maintain it there.
 I want to move it to my repository (SVN) and read it from file.

 I understood that it is possible to read it form file but I am missing
 the syntax ?
 What should be the file extension and how to invoke it.

 any help would be appreciated and sorry for posting such a naive question.

 Faizan

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Re: reading DSL script from file for BUILD FLOW PLUGIN

2015-02-11 Thread Baptiste Mathus
Build flow is on the way to deprecation. The workflow plugin is the one to
use. It's standard with this one to use a scm URL for your workflow
declaration (through combobox+textfield for your scm url and you're done).

Cheers
Le 11 févr. 2015 17:11, Muhammad Faizan-Ul-Haq faiza...@gmail.com a
écrit :

 Hi,

 I have started using BUILD FLOW PLUGIN for job orchestration.
 Now the DSL in my job configuration has become quite lengthy and it is
 becoming difficult to maintain it there.
 I want to move it to my repository (SVN) and read it from file.

 I understood that it is possible to read it form file but I am missing the
 syntax ?
 What should be the file extension and how to invoke it.

 any help would be appreciated and sorry for posting such a naive question.

 Faizan

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