Re: Cantor Sirota
the word sirota, spelled variously in different orthographies, means "orphan" in several Slavic languages; so it's actually a common last name. Eve drummer/bandleader Metropolitan Klezmer & Isle of Klezbos 151 First Avenue #145 NYC NY 10003 USA tel: 212-475-4544 fax: 212-677-6304 www.metropolitanklezmer.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -+ Hosted by Shamash: The Jewish Network http://shamash.org A service of Hebrew College, which offers online courses and an online MA in Jewish Studies, http://hebrewcollege.edu/online/ * * FREE JEWISH LEARNING * * Shamash invites you to join MyJewishLearning.com, a comprehensive, objective, authoritative and interactive learning resource in all areas of Judaism. Free membership via http://www.myjewishlearning.com/shamash -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -=
Re: Middle Eastern Double Reed Instument
*** REPLY SEPARATOR *** On 27/04/2003 at 16:09 Sandra Layman wrote: >Maybe you're thinking of a zurna (zurla). Or perhaps a mijwiz? There's also the argol. Richard "RenaissanceMan" -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -+ Hosted by Shamash: The Jewish Network http://shamash.org A service of Hebrew College, which offers online courses and an online MA in Jewish Studies, http://hebrewcollege.edu/online/ * * FREE JEWISH LEARNING * * Shamash invites you to join MyJewishLearning.com, a comprehensive, objective, authoritative and interactive learning resource in all areas of Judaism. Free membership via http://www.myjewishlearning.com/shamash -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -=
KLEZKANADA Website
Just wanted to let everyone know that the Klezkanada website has been updated. This year's program looks very exciting, with a whole lot of workshops being offered by an excellent faculty. Anyone who can come up should definitely attend! www.klezkanada.com All the best, Elie Elie Rosenblatt [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -+ Hosted by Shamash: The Jewish Network http://shamash.org A service of Hebrew College, which offers online courses and an online MA in Jewish Studies, http://hebrewcollege.edu/online/ * * FREE JEWISH LEARNING * * Shamash invites you to join MyJewishLearning.com, a comprehensive, objective, authoritative and interactive learning resource in all areas of Judaism. Free membership via http://www.myjewishlearning.com/shamash -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -=
Re: guitar in New York
In other areas such as theatre and dance artists ensure they have proper working papers to cross borders. The repercussions if you are caught can be disastrous. The INS does not take kindly to illegal aliens working stateside. I wonder if it is easier for Americans coming to gig in Canada? I know the main Yiddish festivals do the paperwork but I find that individual presenters are loathe to spend the time or energy and leave it up to us artists to concoct kakmaymee(sp) stories about why we are traveling with sheet music, CDs for sale, instruments, etc. It is a catch 22 as its darn near impossible with the short lead times for many gigs to get the proper papers in order. Theresa Tova check out my website http://www.theresatova.com http://theresatova.com/";>www.theresatova.com -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -+ Hosted by Shamash: The Jewish Network http://shamash.org A service of Hebrew College, which offers online courses and an online MA in Jewish Studies, http://hebrewcollege.edu/online/ * * FREE JEWISH LEARNING * * Shamash invites you to join MyJewishLearning.com, a comprehensive, objective, authoritative and interactive learning resource in all areas of Judaism. Free membership via http://www.myjewishlearning.com/shamash -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -=
Re: Four Quesions on Am Yisroel Chai
Someone with more knowledge may wish to correct me but I am pretty sure that Shlomo wrote this for the refuseniks in the Soviet Union. Might have even debuted the tune when he was there. mike eisenstadt tampa
Yuval Banai, Shlomi Bracha and Mashina
Khaverim -- I'm starting work on a profile of Banai and Bracha who are playing a gig in NYC in a couple of weeks. There is almost nothing on the 'Net about these guys or Mashina, their one-time band (at least, not much in English, and my Hebrew just isn't good enough), but I figure some of you will probably be able to enlighten me. You can answer this one on or off-list as the spirit takes you. Many thanks, George (Inquiring minds want to know) Robinson "To announce that there must be no criticism of the president, or that we are to stand by the president, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public." --Theodore Roosevelt -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -+ Hosted by Shamash: The Jewish Network http://shamash.org A service of Hebrew College, which offers online courses and an online MA in Jewish Studies, http://hebrewcollege.edu/online/ * * FREE JEWISH LEARNING * * Shamash invites you to join MyJewishLearning.com, a comprehensive, objective, authoritative and interactive learning resource in all areas of Judaism. Free membership via http://www.myjewishlearning.com/shamash -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -=
Re: guitar in New York
My biggest hassle has been security, border crossing or not. Secondarily, being asked what I'm doing with it, that is, am I performing for pay. glenn tamir wrote: > Why would crossing the border with a guitar be a problem? > > lenka lichtenberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > dear new york listers,is there anybody who would kindly lend > me a guitar for one evening performance (the Congress for > Jewish Culture's kavehoyz), thursday may 15th, 7pm.? i've > been warned that crossing the border with a guitar is not a > good idea at all. i'd be able to return it later same > evening, or next morning.with much appreciation, lenka from > toronto lenka lichtenberg, singer-songwriter, yiddish and > world music performer. for mp3s, audio clips and performance > updates, visit www.lenkalichtenberg.com > > KLEZSKA - part of the next wave in Jewish music www.klezska.com > > --- > Do you Yahoo!? > The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. -- Alex Lubet, Ph. D. Morse Alumni Distinguished Teaching Professor of Music Adjunct Professor of American and Jewish Studies Head, Division Of Composition and Music Theory University of Minnesota 2106 4th St. S Minneapolis, MN 55455 612 624-7840 612 624-8001 (fax) -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -+ Hosted by Shamash: The Jewish Network http://shamash.org A service of Hebrew College, which offers online courses and an online MA in Jewish Studies, http://hebrewcollege.edu/online/ * * FREE JEWISH LEARNING * * Shamash invites you to join MyJewishLearning.com, a comprehensive, objective, authoritative and interactive learning resource in all areas of Judaism. Free membership via http://www.myjewishlearning.com/shamash -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -=
Simple Gifts Concert - Mullica Hill, NJ - Sat May 3, 2003 @ 7:00 PM
- Forwarded message -- From: "Robert Wetherall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2003 12:00:33 -0400 Subject: Saturday Musical Performance Simple Gifts, a group which presents Klezmer, as well as other types of folk music, will be featured in the Gloucester County Library's Saturday Night at the Library performance on Saturday, May 3, at 7 pm at the Mullica Hill Branch. This branch is located at the intersection of Rte. 45 and Wolfert Station Road in Mullica Hill, NJ. This is a free concert and everyone is welcome. For more information, call 856-223-6000. I would appreciate it if you could make this announcement. Thank you. Robert Wetherall, Director Gloucester County Library System 389 Wolfert Station Road Mullica Hill, NJ 08062 Phone: (856)223-6010 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Sunday Morning Klezmer - Tuesdays, 6:00 to 9:00 a.m. EDT (10:00 to 13:00 UTC) WBZC-FM 95.1 FM (Chatsworth, NJ) - 95.1 FM (Burlington, NJ/Bristol, PA) E-Mail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] RealOne: http://wbzc.bcc.edu:8080/ramgen/encoder/wbzc889.rm?usehostname WWW: http://www.angelfire.com/nj/WBZCFMsndymrnngklzmr/ The best thing to hit the internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! Surf the web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today! -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -+ Hosted by Shamash: The Jewish Network http://shamash.org A service of Hebrew College, which offers online courses and an online MA in Jewish Studies, http://hebrewcollege.edu/online/ * * FREE JEWISH LEARNING * * Shamash invites you to join MyJewishLearning.com, a comprehensive, objective, authoritative and interactive learning resource in all areas of Judaism. Free membership via http://www.myjewishlearning.com/shamash -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -=
Re: Passover Food
*** REPLY SEPARATOR *** On 23/04/2003 at 16:49 Marvin Margoshes wrote: >Subject: Re: Passover Food > > >Speaking of Jewish food: >I write this email as I eat Manischewitz Fishlets >(mini gefilte fish) with five alarm Farmer's Horseradish, and King David >Matzos baked and packed >in Jerusalem. >I ask this question: >Is anyone besides me sick of passover food yet? > >I'm ready to have some bread and bagels. The Isrealites even got tired of >manna, and demanded meat. God sent them enough quail to cover the ground to >a drpth of some feet - as a punishment. Really, I don't quite know where the hardship is, to be honest. (And, although I was deprived of a religious upbringing, most years I try to observe dietary constraints for pesakh, so I _do_ know what it's like..) I could happily manage without leavened breads most of the time, there are plenty of acceptable (kosher) alternatives, not just matzo, and I encountered quite a few of these alternatives e.g. among the Jewish communities of India (where I spent part of my "mis-spent youth" studying in the late 60s/early 70s) - perfectly delicious, too! Hmm, ok, beer... I do _love_ the occasional "real ale" ("warm", still British ale) or stout, but then, there are a lot of times when I go without one for considerably longer than a week anyway. I don't know - some folks will be clamouring for "cheeseburgers" next! ;-) Richard "Renaissance Man" -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -+ Hosted by Shamash: The Jewish Network http://shamash.org A service of Hebrew College, which offers online courses and an online MA in Jewish Studies, http://hebrewcollege.edu/online/ * * FREE JEWISH LEARNING * * Shamash invites you to join MyJewishLearning.com, a comprehensive, objective, authoritative and interactive learning resource in all areas of Judaism. Free membership via http://www.myjewishlearning.com/shamash -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -=
RE: JEWISH-MUSIC digest 2580 (Henri Oppenheim's question)
Gregori Schechter wrote a wonderful Klezmer Rhapsody for clarinet and orchestra, which was premiered at the Barbican, London in 1998 to great acclaim. He could probably arrange it for band and orchestra if required. Geraldine -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 21 April 2003 04:42 To: World music from a Jewish slant Subject: Re: JEWISH-MUSIC digest 2580 (Henri Oppenheim's question) Dear Henri, You should contact Hankus Netsky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Alan Bern <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> and Kurt Bjorling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>. All three are producing arrangements and original compositions scored for klezmer band (or soloist) with orchestra. As far as recordings of their work goes, you should ask them. Jeff Warschauer In a message dated 4/18/03 0:01:45, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: >I'm looking for klezmer music arranged for klezmer band and clasical > >orchestra. Does anybody know of any such recordings ? > > --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.471 / Virus Database: 269 - Release Date: 10/04/2003 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.471 / Virus Database: 269 - Release Date: 10/04/2003 -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -+ Hosted by Shamash: The Jewish Network http://shamash.org A service of Hebrew College, which offers online courses and an online MA in Jewish Studies, http://hebrewcollege.edu/online/ * * FREE JEWISH LEARNING * * Shamash invites you to join MyJewishLearning.com, a comprehensive, objective, authoritative and interactive learning resource in all areas of Judaism. Free membership via http://www.myjewishlearning.com/shamash -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -=
Re: guitar in New York
Why would crossing the border with a guitar be a problem?lenka lichtenberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: dear new york listers, is there anybody who would kindly lend me a guitar for one evening performance (the Congress for Jewish Culture's kavehoyz), thursday may 15th, 7pm.? i've been warned that crossing the border with a guitar is not a good idea at all. i'd be able to return it later same evening, or next morning. with much appreciation, lenka from toronto lenka lichtenberg, singer-songwriter, yiddish and world music performer. for mp3s, audio clips and performance updates, visit www.lenkalichtenberg.comKLEZSKA - part of the next wave in Jewish music www.klezska.com Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo.
Re: Four Quesions on Am Yisroel Chai
At 10:12 AM 4/28/03, Gavriel Bellino wrote: 1. What is the source of the words? (I researched the phrase in the Biblical and Rabbinic literature and drew a blank. Is it a loose rephrasing of a biblical theme? If so which one? I have a few ideas, but nothing too elucidating. ) Is it a poetic creation for the sake of a song, like Hava Nagilah? The phrase Am Yisrael ("the Jewish people") is not liturgical and, as you indicate, not scriptural; it probably arose with Zionism, and along with it, the slogan "Am Yisrael Chai". But Am Yisrael is very close to some biblical phrases, and the differences are noteworthy. The common biblical equivalent to Am Yisrael is simply Yisrael. We also find B'ney Yisrael ("the progeny of Israel") or Beyt Yisrael ("the house of Israel"), phrases that retain the tribal associations with an ancestor called Yisrael (=Jacob) -- along the lines of Beyt Aharon, Beyt Ya'akov, Beyt [ha-]Levi -- rather than an independent "people." The biblical phrases that do contain "Am-" in connection with "Yisrael" seem to further negate the notion of an "independent people" inasmuch as they are always combined with a pronoun (usually referring to God). Thus we find Amcha Yisrael, Ami Yisrael and Amo Yisrael, but no Am Yisrael. DEUTERONOMY 21.9 Absolve, O Lord, Your people Israel whom You redeemed, and do not let guilt for the blood of the innocent remain among Your people Israel. KINGS 6.13 I will abide among the children of Israel, and I will never forsake My people Israel. CHRONICLES 6.6 But then I chose Jerusalem for My name to abide there, and I chose David to rule My people Israel. DANIEL 9.20 While I was speaking, praying, and confessing my sin and the sin of my people Israel... JEREMIAH 30.3 For days are coming, declares the Lord, when I will restore the fortunes of My people Israel and Judah, said the Lord... PSALMS 135.12 ...and gave their lands as a heritage, as a heritage to His people Israel. JOEL 4.2 I will gather all the nations And bring them down to the Valley of Jehoshaphat. There I will contend with them Over My very own people, Israel, Which they scattered among the nations. _ Cantor Sam Weiss === Jewish Community Center of Paramus, NJ -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -+ Hosted by Shamash: The Jewish Network http://shamash.org A service of Hebrew College, which offers online courses and an online MA in Jewish Studies, http://hebrewcollege.edu/online/ * * FREE JEWISH LEARNING * * Shamash invites you to join MyJewishLearning.com, a comprehensive, objective, authoritative and interactive learning resource in all areas of Judaism. Free membership via http://www.myjewishlearning.com/shamash -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -=
On "Am Yisroel Chai"
In Eleanor Gordon Moltek's collection of Yiddish songs, "Mir Trogn a Gezang" (NY: Workmen's Circle, 1989, 5th ed.), Mlotek annotates a Yiddish version of the song as follows: "Text by M. Knapheise, music by S. Beresovsky. This song, written right after the Nazi holocaust, and sung in the D.P. camps in Europe, affirms the will of the survivors to rebuild their lives". This version begins: Efnt tir un efnt toyer, Shoyn genug, genug der troyer, Mit fonen-flamen shpant atsind di fray. Fun di bunkers, fun di lekher, Shtaygn veln mir alts hekher, Vayl mir zogn: "am yisroel khay"! (Open wide the doors and gates, enough of mourning; for freedom, with its banners waving, is here! From the bunkers and holes we climb, as we sing: the Jewish People lives! [translation by Mlotek]) I was thinking the song must have been by Sh. Kaczergynski, the Partisan author of the "Yugnt Himn" of the same period, until I found it in Khane Mlotek's book. Of course, this only illustrates Gavriel's remark about the phrase "Am Yisroel Khai" being used in popular tunes early in the 20th century; it doesn't show where the words came from. Gavriel Bellino wrote: Does anyone know of the history of the song "Am Yisroel Chai" ? .2. When did it become part of our national consciousness? When was itfirst sung? As far as I know it appeared in a couple of folk melodiesfrom of the 20's and 30's, with popularity extending thru the 70's. Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo.
RE: Four Quesions on Am Yisroel Chai
No. It’s way older than that. Probably by a hundred years. He was commissioned to write a song with those words, but the words had been a part of our musical consciousness long before it. I believe that he added the words Od Avinu Chai on his own, paraphrasing Joseph’s question to his brothers and their report back to Jacob. All best, GZB -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2003 8:19 PM To: World music from a Jewish slant Subject: Re: Four Quesions on Am Yisroel Chai Someone with more knowledge may wish to correct me but I am pretty sure that Shlomo wrote this for the refuseniks in the Soviet Union. Might have even debuted the tune when he was there. mike eisenstadt tampa
Religious School Music Specialist wanted
Chevre: It is that time of year again when our thoughts turn to staffing the Religious School. We are expanding our school days to 5 a week, Sunday - Thursday and will be looking for a Religious School Music Teacher to share some of the class music teaching with our cantors. Fall - September 2003 Religious School Music Teacher K-6 Multiple weekday afternoons & possible Sunday morning Guitar/keyboard playing is an asset Knowledge of basic Jewish repertoire and a willingness to expand your repertoire and to work with the cantors and Director of Education. Competitve salary offered If you are interested please email or call Alice Czuckzka Asst. Director of Education [EMAIL PROTECTED] (203) 227-1293 ext. 314 B'shira mandi Cantor Miranda Kark Beckenstein Director of Education Temple Israel 14 Coleytown Rd Westport, Ct 06880 ( 203-227-1656 ( fax 203-454-2292
Re: Greenman and Ruchefsky - I mean, Fedoriouk
Thanks for sharing that. Makes me truly sad I couldn't have been there, sounds like it really was something a bit special. (Sadly, it's a bit more than a morning's drive from this side of the pond.. And this happens in NYC?! I'm amazed... Richard "Renaissance Man" *** REPLY SEPARATOR *** On 28/04/2003 at 17:05 r l reidr l reid wrote: >It was small but intense. Those few of us who were there couldn't >believe how many folks were missing it. > >I did hear from one stalwart from South Orange who turned back on seeing the >one hour backup to get in the tunnel. And it was the first really nice >day in a long time. But still... > >Sunday afternoon at Tonic 107 in the Lower East Side was scheduled to have >Steven Greenman - who most folks here know is a violin player of exquisite >talent and sensitivity - and Pete Rushefsky, one of the greatest of >the "second generation revivalist" tsimbl players. > >Sadly, Pete's grandfather passed away and he was at the funeral. But in a >bit of luck, Alexander Fedoriouk was in town, with cymbalom (the Hungarian >big sister of the tsimbl). > >Now, Alex is not specifically a klezmer player. In fact, for him it was >Easter, being on the Orthodox (Christian) calendar. What he is though is a >great player whose whirling hands have a LOT to say. > >So there we were, five of us in the audience. Four of us were over the >age of ba[rt] mitzvah. I had heard Alex's recordings before but never >met him or heard him in person. > >Steven set some sheets in from of Alex, explained the situation, explained >that they'd had about 10 minutes time to work together before the show, >and that there'd be more of a Moldavian and Gypsy aspect to the program >as a result. > >What followed was an hour of fine music, ranging from all over the >villages of south eastern Europe. What surprised me most was that >much of what was being played were compositions of Steven's, which >strike you as "a great old tune you've never heard before" - including a >deliciously beautiful "heart yearning niggun" that he composed in >Lubavitch style. > >After an intermission, in which 3 of the 5 left, they were ready to play >again when our number was suddenly swelled by Zev Feldman, Josh Waletzky, >and a couple other folks who could just as well been on the stage as off. > >Besides me, the only other attendee who got both shows was a young woman >who, if I overheard right, has done some modern dance on a few selections >from the Khevirsa CD. With Zev and a friend there now, naturally Steven >and Alexander played out some freylachs and horas, and dance class was >in session. > >The shame of it all is that so many people who could have gotten so much, >missed it. I'm also a little embarrassed, since these guys are from out of >town, that they schlepped all the way there for so few of us - come on, >you'd think in NYC we could do better. > >I pointed out to the management of Tonic that what the audience lacked in >quantity it made up for in quality. Also an intimacy - Steven was >explaining the setup of his "playing on the second string" fiddle (the >A string is moved much closer to the E string and tuned down to an E an >octave below, and the two strings are played as one - if you hear it you >instantly recognize that sound from certain tracks on Khevrisa) and >because of the smallness of the group I could just walk right up and >look at it. > >For me as an amateur tsimbler, it was thrilling to see Fedoriouk at work. >In Jewish tsimbl, there's not a huge value placed on speed and virtuosity. >But those are two of the many aspects of Fedoriouk's talent. Usually you >can watch a tsimbl players hands. In his case, there come points where it's >like a movie -- you cannot distinguish anything but you see a blur that >looks like his hands are occupying many spaces at once. Of course it's not >just speed - the choice of what to play when, while it might not satisfy the >Klezmer Police, was delightful, dynamic, always pushing the tune onward. > >I also marveled at how relaxed he was, physically. Motion with phrases was >confined to tiny motions of the hands and wrists - with a slight lift at the >elbow between phrases. Shoulder down, not up around his ears in a mass of >tension like when I play. > >It was a great afternoon for the few who were there. > >roger reid -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -+ Hosted by Shamash: The Jewish Network http://shamash.org A service of Hebrew College, which offers online courses and an online MA in Jewish Studies, http://hebrewcollege.edu/online/ * * FREE JEWISH LEARNING * * Shamash invites you to join MyJewishLearning.com, a comprehensive, objective, authoritative and interactive learning resource in all areas of Judaism. Free membership via http://www.myjewishlearning.com/shamash -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -=
Re: Four Quesions on Am Yisroel Chai
My band (and probably the band of half the members on this list) plays what I consider the "other" version of Am Yisrael Chai (the one that sounds rather like Tsena, Tsena). I learned that long before I learned Shlomo Carlebach's and that has the Od Avinu Chai. Dick Rosenberg - Original Message - From: Gavriel Bellino To: World music from a Jewish slant Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2003 9:23 PM Subject: RE: Four Quesions on Am Yisroel Chai No. Its way older than that. Probably by a hundred years. He was commissioned to write a song with those words, but the words had been a part of our musical consciousness long before it. I believe that he added the words Od Avinu Chai on his own, paraphrasing Josephs question to his brothers and their report back to Jacob. All best, GZB -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2003 8:19 PMTo: World music from a Jewish slantSubject: Re: Four Quesions on Am Yisroel Chai Someone with more knowledge may wish to correct mebut I am pretty sure that Shlomo wrote this for the refuseniks in the Soviet Union.Might have even debuted the tune when he was there.mike eisenstadttampa
RE: Four Quesions on Am Yisroel Chai
Is that the one by Seymour Rockoff? Shlomo’s is slightly older. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dick Rosenberg Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2003 8:43 PM To: World music from a Jewish slant Subject: Re: Four Quesions on Am Yisroel Chai My band (and probably the band of half the members on this list) plays what I consider the "other" version of Am Yisrael Chai (the one that sounds rather like Tsena, Tsena). I learned that long before I learned Shlomo Carlebach's and that has the Od Avinu Chai. Dick Rosenberg - Original Message - From: Gavriel Bellino To: World music from a Jewish slant Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2003 9:23 PM Subject: RE: Four Quesions on Am Yisroel Chai No. It’s way older than that. Probably by a hundred years. He was commissioned to write a song with those words, but the words had been a part of our musical consciousness long before it. I believe that he added the words Od Avinu Chai on his own, paraphrasing Joseph’s question to his brothers and their report back to Jacob. All best, GZB -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2003 8:19 PM To: World music from a Jewish slant Subject: Re: Four Quesions on Am Yisroel Chai Someone with more knowledge may wish to correct me but I am pretty sure that Shlomo wrote this for the refuseniks in the Soviet Union. Might have even debuted the tune when he was there. mike eisenstadt tampa