Re: [Jmol-developers] page needs updating

2008-10-11 Thread Nicolas Vervelle
The Jmol website should now be up to date :)

On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 12:38 PM, Angel Herráez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I have commited the update to display 11.6 as current version nr. in the
 front page and the update of the applet files for the website.
 I want to check that the examples/demos work well, but I cannot do that
 right now locally due to the applet path, so I'll test them once the
 changes
 are in the website.
 (I tried to mock it by replacing the applet in /jmol/ with the signed
 applet
 files, but Jmol in the front page didn't finish loading)

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Re: [Jmol-developers] page needs updating

2008-10-11 Thread Nicolas Vervelle
On Sat, Oct 11, 2008 at 12:57 PM, Nicolas Vervelle [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:

 The Jmol website should now be up to date :)


Really strange : I got security exceptions on the first attempt to view
pages, but now it seems ok.

Nico
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Re: [Jmol-developers] page needs updating

2008-10-11 Thread Angel Herráez
On 11 Oct 2008 at 13:14, Nicolas Vervelle wrote:
 Really strange : I got security exceptions on the first attempt to view 
 pages, but now it seems ok.

I've had no trouble.
I'm checking the demo pages and while testing them locally I had some trouble 
convincing 
the browser to use the new applet - it insisted on loading 11.4.6 from the Java 
cache.

Everything seems to be working

I noticed today some significant delay between Jmol's black panel loaded and 
the loading of 
the promotion model. This may confuse users, so I'm adding a note to the 
script, saying 
Jmol has finished loading | Now loading content...

Nico, Egon, are these phrases OK?

Jmol a fini de télécharger | Maintenant téléchargement du contenu...

Jmol heeft het downladen gebeëindigd | Nu downloadend inhoud...



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Re: [Jmol-developers] page needs updating

2008-10-11 Thread Nicolas Vervelle
On Sat, Oct 11, 2008 at 2:38 PM, Angel Herráez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Nico, Egon, are these phrases OK?

 Jmol a fini de télécharger | Maintenant téléchargement du contenu...


I would rather have something like : Téléchargement de Jmol terminé |
Téléchargement du contenu en cours...

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Re: [Jmol-developers] MD trajectories for 11.7

2008-10-11 Thread Robert Hanson
Matt, I did check this out more carefully, and I see now that there was a
bug in Jmol for appended trajectories. It's fixed, but it's in Jmol 11.7.3,
which has not been released yet. If you are interested in getting a look at
this, take a look at

http://chemapps.stolaf.edu/jmol/docs/examples-11/new.htm?topic=1

JAR files for 11.7.3 are in
http://chemapps.stolaf.edu/jmol/docs/examples-11/Jmol-11.zip

Bob


On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 10:09 PM, Robert Hanson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hey, Matt, you might be in luck.

 On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 2:01 PM, Matthew Zwier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
  At least, I think you can Supposed to  be able to. You are just
 limited
  to one trajectory step from EACH sequence loaded. I can't imagine why
 that
  would take any major amount of time if they are trajectories.

 Yeah, as I said above, they're loaded as independent models, not
 trajectories.  It gets slow when the total number of atoms gets large,
 as I suppose one would expect if there's a loop over all 40,000 atoms
 occurring each animation frame.

  I'm happy to do the coding if anything is necessary there. Doesn't sound
 too
  involved to me. Keep talking

 Sounds like the machinery is there already, and that I just haven't
 kept up with recent development enough to know.  Loading each run as a
 trajectory should do it.


 Right. It's all there. You can't use both the append and the trajectory
 keywords at the same time right now, but in this case you don't need the
 trajectory keyword, so you can do:

 load files u.mdtop FILTER ![WAT],![URE] COORD {0 -1 5}
 mdcrd::prod1.mdcrd  mdcrd::prod2.mdcrd
 load append u.mdtop FILTER ![WAT],![URE] COORD {0 -1 5}
 mdcrd::prod3.mdcrd mdcrd::prod4.mdcrd

 frame *;
 display 1.1,2.1
 delay 0.1
 display 1.2,2.2
 delay 0.1
 display 1.3,2.3
 delay 0.1
 ...


 or if you wanted an animation, something like

 var nSec = 0.1
 for (var i = 1; i  10;i = i + 1)
   script inline @{display 1. + i + , 2. + i}
   delay @nSec
 end for

 I tried this on a simple model (7700 atoms), and it went very smoothly.

 Note that if you add a write command (and you are using the Jmol
 application), then you can make a movie of the overlaid trajectories:

 for (var i = 1; i  10;i = i + 1)
   script inline @{display 1. + i + , 2. + i}
   write image 500 500 @{movie + ( + i)[-3][0] + .jpg}
 end for

 And then use some other software to combine those JPEG stills into an AVI
 file.


 I do use per-frame transparency, which would break if
 color/transparency information is logically tied to the topology
 rather than the coordinates (the latter being what changes on a
 per-animation-frame basis).  If there could be per-trajectory-frame
 color attributes, it'd be a pretty big help.  The only other helpful
 thing would be more than 8 levels of transparency (though I can't
 imagine more than 20 would matter).


 All you do is make a for/end for loop as above and basically design your
 own animation.


 Eventually, my dream is to produce animations not only of the atoms
 but also of molecular orbitals, but I strongly suspect that's too
 computationally- or memory-intensive to do in an interactive
 environment.


 Nah. Actually, you could do this. It would require some initial set up.
 I wonder how slow it would be:

 1) set up your trajectory data.
 2) create the molecular orbitals using Gaussian in terms of a CUBE file for
 each stage along the way.
 3) use Jmol or Jvxl.jar to create JVXL files (200:1 compressed surfaces) of
 those orbitals from the CUBE files.

 That's the slow part. Now load the trajectory data, and as above drive the
 animation, but this time include an isosurface command that loads the
 desired surface from the JVXL files.

 If these are reasonably small molecules, I'll bet the JVXL file will load
 and display almost instantly.

 Might work.


 Bob






 Thanks for the reply and discussion!
 Cheers,
 Matt Z.

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[Jmol-developers] Is script checking still working ?

2008-10-11 Thread Nicolas Vervelle
Hi,

Script checking seems very slow with the latest versions (as if it was not
only checking the script, but also running it).
Something has changed ?

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Re: [Jmol-developers] Is script checking still working ?

2008-10-11 Thread Robert Hanson
The -c flag checks scripts, but it also does all the file opening, and that
will take time. To check a script without file loading, you need to create a
little script that contains:

  script xxx.spt check noload

and then use

 Jmol -s thatscript.spt

Bob


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 I don't think so. I'll check. I usually do the script running, not just
 checking, so we'll see.

 On Sat, Oct 11, 2008 at 4:22 PM, Nicolas Vervelle [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:

 Hi,

 Script checking seems very slow with the latest versions (as if it was not
 only checking the script, but also running it).
 Something has changed ?

 Nico

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Re: [Jmol-developers] Is script checking still working ?

2008-10-11 Thread Robert Hanson
I don't think so. I'll check. I usually do the script running, not just
checking, so we'll see.

On Sat, Oct 11, 2008 at 4:22 PM, Nicolas Vervelle [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:

 Hi,

 Script checking seems very slow with the latest versions (as if it was not
 only checking the script, but also running it).
 Something has changed ?

 Nico

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[Jmol-developers] [ jmol-Feature Requests-1836521 ] multiple scripts per command-line

2008-10-11 Thread SourceForge.net
Feature Requests item #1836521, was opened at 2007-11-22 09:27
Message generated for change (Settings changed) made by hansonr
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Category: Interface Improvements
Group: None
Status: Closed
Priority: 5
Private: No
Submitted By: Rolf Huehne (rhuehne)
Assigned to: Bob Hanson (hansonr)
Summary: multiple scripts per command-line

Initial Comment:
Currently (Jmol 11.3.44) only the first -s option provided in the 
command-line is used. Additional ones are ignored.

It would be very helpful (e.g.: for batch image generation) to be able to 
execute several scripts provided per command-line option.
(This would avoid for example the error-prone need for several almost identical 
complex scripts.)

If this is not possible (or even then?) it would also help to be able to set 
one (or several?) Jmol variables with a command-line option. Or alternatively 
having access to environment variables within Jmol scripting.

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Comment By: Bob Hanson (hansonr)
Date: 2008-10-11 21:22

Message:
new feature for Jmol 11.7.3:

  jmol --jmolscript some script here
  jmol -j some script here
  jmol -j echo \testing here\

of course, this script could call other scripts:

  jmol -j script somefile1.spt;script somefile2.spt;script
somefile3.spt

or 

  jmol -j script somefile1.spt check noload







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[Jmol-developers] Application: Gaussian Dialog

2008-10-11 Thread Robert Hanson
Jmol Developers,

I finally got around to adding Andy Turner's Gaussian Input dialog -- it's
very nice. It's under File...Export

Checked in as part of 11.7.3

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Re: [Jmol-developers] Application: Gaussian Dialog

2008-10-11 Thread Robert Hanson
Jmol Developers,

I finally got around to adding Andy Turner's Gaussian Input dialog -- it's
very nice.

It's under File...Export

Checked in as part of 11.7.3

Bob

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