Re: [Jmol-users] jmol demo on sourceforge

2008-10-01 Thread Nicolas Vervelle
On Wed, Oct 1, 2008 at 10:08 PM, Robert Hanson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> So what's this port 81 thing? leaving that off changes it to the standard
> http port 80; I don't know of any system that allows you to use port 81 if
> port 80 is the right port.
>

The problem is with the hosting company on which the wiki is setup.
To be able to provide both PHP4 and PHP5 on shared computers, they have
decided that PHP4 will be available on port 80 (standard HTTP port) and PHP5
on port 81.
Since MediaWiki requires PHP5, all access are done through port 81 on the
wiki.
I have added a .htaccess file (contents below) to automatically redirect
request on port 80 to port 81, so that people accessing the wiki without
specifying the port will still have access to the wiki.
If anyone knows how to do this is an more cleaner way, please help :)

RewriteEngine on
RewriteCond %{SERVER_PORT} ^80$
RewriteRule ^(.*)$  http://%{HTTP_HOST}:81%{REQUEST_URI} [QSA,P]

Nico
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[Jmol-users] Jmol 11.6 release -- delayed

2008-10-01 Thread Robert Hanson
A few additional bugs were found just today; Nico has released 11.6.RC18 --
those who found these bugs please check that they are fixed there, and we
will give it a few more days and release 11.6 this weekend.

Thanks,

Bob


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Re: [Jmol-users] jmol demo on sourceforge

2008-10-01 Thread Robert Hanson
So what's this port 81 thing? leaving that off changes it to the standard
http port 80; I don't know of any system that allows you to use port 81 if
port 80 is the right port.



On Wed, Oct 1, 2008 at 1:17 PM, Jennifer L. Muzyka <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Tom-
> THANKS for the suggestion about stripping out the port number on the wiki
> URL.   I did that and the page loaded in a jiffy!
> -Jennifer
>
>
>
> Message: 5
> Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 10:58:10 -0700
> From: "Thomas Stout" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: [Jmol-users] jmol demo on sourceforge
> To: jmol-users@lists.sourceforge.net
> Message-ID:
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
> One thought about the wiki not loading:  I have the same problem for any
> link to the wiki that uses the "port number".
>
> For example:
> http://wiki.jmol.org:81/index.php/Solving_Java_Problems#Java_cache
> will never load for me due to the ":81" and our local firewall denying
> access.  If I cut-and-paste the link into my browser's address box and then
> strip the port number out (so that it looks like:
> http://wiki.jmol.org/index.php/Solving_Java_Problems#Java_cache ), then
> the
> wiki pages load just fine...
>
> I'm not certain that is your problem as well, but it sounds very similar to
> my experience...
> -Tom
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Re: [Jmol-users] jmol demo on sourceforge

2008-10-01 Thread Jennifer L. Muzyka
Tom-
THANKS for the suggestion about stripping out the port number on the wiki URL.  
 I did that and the page loaded in a jiffy!
-Jennifer



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Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 10:58:10 -0700
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Subject: Re: [Jmol-users] jmol demo on sourceforge
To: jmol-users@lists.sourceforge.net
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Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"

One thought about the wiki not loading:  I have the same problem for any
link to the wiki that uses the "port number".

For example:
http://wiki.jmol.org:81/index.php/Solving_Java_Problems#Java_cache
will never load for me due to the ":81" and our local firewall denying
access.  If I cut-and-paste the link into my browser's address box and then
strip the port number out (so that it looks like:
http://wiki.jmol.org/index.php/Solving_Java_Problems#Java_cache ), then the
wiki pages load just fine...

I'm not certain that is your problem as well, but it sounds very similar to
my experience...
-Tom



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Re: [Jmol-users] final testing appreciated

2008-10-01 Thread Robert Hanson
same problem

On Wed, Oct 1, 2008 at 8:47 AM, Rolf Huehne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Robert Hanson wrote:
> > Final testing appreciated for Jmol 11.6. Anything you can do to try to
> break
> > it would be great.
> >
>
> The following commands that used to work at least until 11.5.35 give an
> error message in 11.6.RC17:
>
>  bound_box = getProperty("boundboxInfo", "vector");
>  vector_x  = bound_box.x;
>
> script ERROR: unexpected end of script command
> line 1 command 1 of  file null:
>  vector_x = bound_box . >> x <<
>
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Re: [Jmol-users] final testing appreciated

2008-10-01 Thread Robert Hanson
yeah, I know what that is thanks.

On Wed, Oct 1, 2008 at 8:47 AM, Rolf Huehne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Robert Hanson wrote:
> > Final testing appreciated for Jmol 11.6. Anything you can do to try to
> break
> > it would be great.
> >
>
> The following commands that used to work at least until 11.5.35 give an
> error message in 11.6.RC17:
>
>  bound_box = getProperty("boundboxInfo", "vector");
>  vector_x  = bound_box.x;
>
> script ERROR: unexpected end of script command
> line 1 command 1 of  file null:
>  vector_x = bound_box . >> x <<
>
> Regards,
> Rolf
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Re: [Jmol-users] jmol demo on sourceforge

2008-10-01 Thread Thomas Stout
One thought about the wiki not loading:  I have the same problem for any
link to the wiki that uses the "port number".

For example:
http://wiki.jmol.org:81/index.php/Solving_Java_Problems#Java_cache
will never load for me due to the ":81" and our local firewall denying
access.  If I cut-and-paste the link into my browser's address box and then
strip the port number out (so that it looks like:
http://wiki.jmol.org/index.php/Solving_Java_Problems#Java_cache ), then the
wiki pages load just fine...

I'm not certain that is your problem as well, but it sounds very similar to
my experience...
-Tom


On Wed, Oct 1, 2008 at 10:19 AM, Jennifer L. Muzyka <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Angel-
> Thanks for the additional information about the protein cavities /
> isosurfaces.
>
> I tried following your advice about clearing my Java cache in order to get
> the Jmol applet on the front page to work, but my browser keeps getting a
> Page Load Error for the jmol wiki.  I was having the same problem last week
> as well.  Other websites work okay for me, so I can't figure out what the
> problem might be.  On the other hand, I went back to the demo and this time
> it loaded just fine!  (Last time it failed with both IE and Firefox..)
> -Jennifer
>
>
>
> Message: 10
> Date: Wed, 01 Oct 2008 17:31:37 +0200
> From: "Angel Herraez" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: [Jmol-users] jmol demo on sourceforge
> To: jmol-users@lists.sourceforge.net
> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
>
> Hi Jennifer
>
> Thanks for reporting this. However, I am seeing no problem.
> Please,
> 1.- Clear your Java cache
> (procedure described at
> http://wiki.jmol.org:81/index.php/Solving_Java_Problems#Java_cache
>
> 2. Clear your browser cache. Quit your browser and reopen it
>
> 3. Try the page. If the problem still persists, please report
> details: your browser, OS and Java versions, and any
> messages in the Java console.
>
> I assume that you mean the Jmol applet in the front page, not in the
> "demo" sections, right?
>
>
>
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Re: [Jmol-users] jmol demo on sourceforge

2008-10-01 Thread Robert Hanson
I think problems like this have to do with domain issues. We see this
sometimes with different web domain providers, but we haven't seen it at
sourceForge.

On Wed, Oct 1, 2008 at 12:28 PM, Robert Hanson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hmm, I don't see that... could be a one-time event?
>
>
> On Wed, Oct 1, 2008 at 9:56 AM, Jennifer L. Muzyka <
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> I just tried the demo on the jmol.sourceforge.net page, and I get a an
>> error instead of the demo.  The error says:
>>  java:security.AccessControlException.
>> -Jennifer
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Jennifer Muzyka
>> Professor of Chemistry
>> On sabbatical at University of Kentucky College of Pharmacy
>> Centre College
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>



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Re: [Jmol-users] jmol demo on sourceforge

2008-10-01 Thread Robert Hanson
Hmm, I don't see that... could be a one-time event?

On Wed, Oct 1, 2008 at 9:56 AM, Jennifer L. Muzyka <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I just tried the demo on the jmol.sourceforge.net page, and I get a an
> error instead of the demo.  The error says:
>  java:security.AccessControlException.
> -Jennifer
>
>
>
>
> Jennifer Muzyka
> Professor of Chemistry
> On sabbatical at University of Kentucky College of Pharmacy
> Centre College
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> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: [Jmol-users] jmol demo on sourceforge

2008-10-01 Thread Jennifer L. Muzyka
Angel-
Thanks for the additional information about the protein cavities / isosurfaces.

I tried following your advice about clearing my Java cache in order to get the 
Jmol applet on the front page to work, but my browser keeps getting a Page Load 
Error for the jmol wiki.  I was having the same problem last week as well.  
Other websites work okay for me, so I can't figure out what the problem might 
be.  On the other hand, I went back to the demo and this time it loaded just 
fine!  (Last time it failed with both IE and Firefox..)
-Jennifer



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Date: Wed, 01 Oct 2008 17:31:37 +0200
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Subject: Re: [Jmol-users] jmol demo on sourceforge
To: jmol-users@lists.sourceforge.net
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Hi Jennifer

Thanks for reporting this. However, I am seeing no problem.
Please,
1.- Clear your Java cache
(procedure described at
http://wiki.jmol.org:81/index.php/Solving_Java_Problems#Java_cache

2. Clear your browser cache. Quit your browser and reopen it

3. Try the page. If the problem still persists, please report
details: your browser, OS and Java versions, and any
messages in the Java console.

I assume that you mean the Jmol applet in the front page, not in the
"demo" sections, right?





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Re: [Jmol-users] final testing appreciated

2008-10-01 Thread Angel Herraez
Using 11.6.RC17 I get this error:

eval ERROR: el argumento no es vĂ¡lido
line 1 command 64 of  file null:
  { selected } . >> y << = 0

The offending script is 
select 2.0; spacefill off; wireframe 0.04;  color [xFF00FF]; 
{selected}.y = 0; 

It worked in 11.5.41 at least

(I seem to recall having problems with this before)


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Re: [Jmol-users] jmol demo on sourceforge

2008-10-01 Thread Angel Herraez
Hi Jennifer

Thanks for reporting this. However, I am seeing no problem.
Please,
1.- Clear your Java cache
(procedure described at
http://wiki.jmol.org:81/index.php/Solving_Java_Problems#Java_cache

2. Clear your browser cache. Quit your browser and reopen it

3. Try the page. If the problem still persists, please report 
details: your browser, OS and Java versions, and any 
messages in the Java console.

I assume that you mean the Jmol applet in the front page, not in the 
"demo" sections, right?


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[Jmol-users] jmol demo on sourceforge

2008-10-01 Thread Jennifer L. Muzyka
I just tried the demo on the jmol.sourceforge.net page, and I get a an error 
instead of the demo.  The error says:  java:security.AccessControlException.
-Jennifer




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Centre College
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Re: [Jmol-users] final testing appreciated

2008-10-01 Thread Rolf Huehne
Rolf Huehne wrote:
> Robert Hanson wrote:
>> Hmm. This could be a mix of signed applet versions. Try using
>>
>> jmolInitialize(".","JmolAppletSigned.jar")
>>
>> so that it is definitely picking up just the one JAR file.
>>
>> I'll try
>>
>> jmolInitialize(".","JmolAppletSigned0.jar")
>>
>> and see if I forgot to include something in one of the Jar files. Could be
>> -- those were reorganized recently.
>>
> 
> I tried this already. All 4 possible applet names show the same error:
> 
>   JmolApplet.jar
>   JmolApplet0.jar
>   JmolAppletSigned.jar
>   JmolAppletSigned0.jar
> 
> You can try it yourself with the unsigned applet at this URL:
> 
> http://www.imb-jena.de/cgi-bin/3d_mapping.pl?CODE=2arc&JMOLVERSION=11.6.RC16
> 
> When I try this URL on WinXP (Java 1.6.0_07, Firefox 2.0.0.14, IE
> 7.0.5730.11) I get a "java.security.AccessControlException" instead of
> the error reported for Java 1.4 on Linux.
> 

With Jmol 11.6.RC17 the reported specific error on Linux vanished but
now I get the "java.security.AccessControlException" on all systems.

It occurs when using the 'script' or 'load' command if a server absolute
path is provided, e.g.:

  load /ImgLibPDB/tmp/pdb2arc.ent.gz

It doesn't occur if a complete URL is provided instead in the 'load'
command (which apparantly isn't possible with 'script'):

  load http://www.imb-jena.de/ImgLibPDB/tmp/pdb2arc.ent.gz

With Jmol 11.6.RC13 and earlier the problem doesn't exist.

Regards,
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Re: [Jmol-users] final testing appreciated

2008-10-01 Thread Rolf Huehne
Robert Hanson wrote:
> Final testing appreciated for Jmol 11.6. Anything you can do to try to break
> it would be great.
> 

The following commands that used to work at least until 11.5.35 give an
error message in 11.6.RC17:

  bound_box = getProperty("boundboxInfo", "vector");
  vector_x  = bound_box.x;

script ERROR: unexpected end of script command
line 1 command 1 of  file null:
  vector_x = bound_box . >> x <<

Regards,
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Re: [Jmol-users] volume of cavities inside proteins?

2008-10-01 Thread Jennifer L. Muzyka
Bob-
You're right that that I'm having a lot of fun learning about proteins and 
ligands and calculations involving their interactions on my sabbatical.  I'm at 
the University of Kentucky College of Pharmacy working with Chang-Guo Zhan, a 
physical chemist.  The group does structure based drug design.

Thanks for the suggestions about navigating through the cavities as well as the 
description of how to make the pdb animations.  The animations sound easier 
than I had hoped, and the navigation through the cavities sounds like an 
interesting travel experience that I can't wait to try.
-Jennifer




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