Re: [Jmol-users] Jmol on PDA

2006-11-14 Thread nvervell
Hi,

I am not aware of someone trying to run Jmol with J9.

The Jmol applet may be able to run on it, but you would have to try. The Jmol 
application probably won't work since it requires Java 1.4 or +.

Tell us what you find if you try Jmol with J9.

Nico


De: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Is it possible to run Jmol using IBM's J9 virtual machine.
We would like to use Jmol on PDAs as a visualisation tool for high school 
chemistry students.
Any assistance would be appreciated.



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Re: [Jmol-users] emails into sourceforge archive

2006-11-02 Thread nvervell

De: Annemarie Rom-Weisenbach 

Hello. I could find no explanation about this on the web site. If I have 
missed something, please point me there. How long does it take the emails from 
this list to make it into the SourceForge jmol-users archive? Right now, the 
latest in the archive date from Oct 2. I am wondering how long I'll need to 
keep personal copies of interesting topics before they will be available in 
the archive.

Hi,

Thanks for pointing this out.

it's probably a bug in sourceforge.
I will check the mailing list configuration, and if there's no reason there for 
the mails not being, I will open a support request on sourceforge.

Nico


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Re: [Jmol-users] jmol

2006-10-26 Thread nvervell

De: Rzepa, Henry [EMAIL PROTECTED]

In the mediawiki invocation of Jmol,  how might one address
different instances of a jmol.  Might it be eg

jmol name=first  or  jmol id=first?

Would either of these be supported by your code?

The following should work
jmol
  jmolApplet
namefirst/name
  /jmolApplet
/jmol

See http://wiki.jmol.org/index.php/MediaWiki#Reference

Nico


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[Jmol-users] Jmol 10.9.84

2006-10-25 Thread nvervell
Jmol 10.9.84 is available at http://www.jmol.org/files/

Changes:
- set labelPointerBackground
- set labelPointerBox
- set labelPointerNoBox
- polyhedra restrict fix 

There's still a bug concerning translations (i18n) in this release (the 
messages classes are compiled as JDK 1.5). I am trying to find a fix. 
Currently, the archives available on Bob's site should work correctly.

Nico


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Re: [Jmol-users] Jmol prerelease 10.9.80

2006-10-19 Thread nvervell

De: Paul Pillot [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I get the following error message with this version (downloaded from 
sourceforge) :
Ignore

java.lang.UnsupportedClassVersionError: 
org/jmol/translation/JmolApplet/Messages_fr (Unsupported major.minor 
version 49.0)

at java.lang.ClassLoader.defineClass0(Native Method)

Strange, it seems that some classes have been compiled with Java 1.5 instead of 
1.4.
Will check this evening.

Nico


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Re: [Jmol-users] issue with message callbacks and in ternationalization

2006-10-13 Thread nvervell

De: Bob Hanson [EMAIL PROTECTED]

ooh, you're not the only one. I've done the same thing in the past and 
never ever thought about translation. We could IN PRINCIPLE offer a no 
translation option,  but that seems to me rather rude. You are right 
that this could very well break some pages -- mine included. For 
example, I have a page that says:

 if(what.indexOf(Script completed)=0)return

Oh, oh!

I don't know what the solution for this is.

We could:

1) back off and not translate so much -- but what to choose?

The limit could be that everything output to the console is not translated, but 
I don't like this idea much.


2) promote using jmolScriptWait() more, which returns the number of 
selected atoms directly with no need for callbacks. (If that is what you 
are doing.)

We should promote using methods (like jmolScriptWait()) for pages wanting to 
have feedback from Jmol.
The problem with parsing textual output from Jmol is not limited to i18n, but 
can also occur with pure English:
- between  two versions of Jmol we can change some strings.
- the user can already choose to display the level (DEBUG, INFO, ...) 
associated with the textual output, or even to suppress some output levels


Be that as it may, you are right, Paul, pages using this hack will be 
broken for non-English speakers.
Yieks.

Bob


Paul Pillot wrote:

Hello,
I have a simple page with a messagecallback function which extracts the 
number of atoms selected in the expression n atoms selected
I've just realized that it's not working anymore because, using a french 
browser I get the message n atomes séléctionnés instead. 
Internationalization in Jmol is great, but I think that in this case it 
may break lots of parsers, without their authors knowing the bug 
(imagine someone writing a script, and doing intensive debugging in 
english browsers, how can he guess that the message won't be the same if 
an user as different language settings ?).
How can we adress this important issue ?

Paul

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Re: [Jmol-users] surfaces and JVXL files

2006-10-09 Thread nvervell

De: Bob Hanson [EMAIL PROTECTED]

One problem I see is that, at least on a PC, the menu doesn't seem to 
smartly scroll. Is this a Swing option I'm missing?

No, this is a Swing limitation, very frustrating.

AFAIK, Only way to overcome this is to handle it manually: if you have more 
than X elements in the menu then you have to divide you menu in submenus.

That's something I had to do for a menu containing  600 elements. If you need, 
I can send a sample code.


Nico


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Re: [Jmol-users] new command-line options; jmol writes JVXL files directly

2006-09-26 Thread nvervell

A little Jmol window opened and closed itself after a while. The output
file afterwards contained the measurement list.

  

that is the correct behavior. I don't know how to hide that window, and 
I'm not sure I want to. Is that OK?

If someone can figure out how to make this totally no display, I'm all 
for it. That's past my ability.

I will take a look at it if I find some time this evening (still at the office 
:( )

Nico


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Re: [Jmol-users] Two questions concerning the Jmol Applet

2006-05-10 Thread nvervell

De: Angel Herraez [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Welcome, Christian

 1) is it possible to display simultaneously two proteins in the applet? If
 yes how?

As Bob has pointed out, you can only load one file, so two proteins 
must be in the same file --can do it by hand or with some software.


Not entirely true. There's an *experimental* feature in Jmol to read several 
files. IIRC:
load name file 1 file 2 ... file n

It's not finished but you can always try it.


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Re: [Jmol-users] Jmol.js prototype: Jmol-new.js and jmolScriptWait

2006-05-05 Thread nvervell


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Re: [Jmol-users] Jmol applets in MediaWiki and Wikipedia

2006-04-27 Thread nvervell

Could someone please explain how to achieve the following code result

uploadedFileContentsEthanol.xyz/uploadedFileContents


When I try to upload a file, mediawiki tells me its not a recognised
image file, and refuses it.  I guess a setting has to be tweaked somewhere
(perhaps even setting a chemical/x-xyz MIME type?)   to allow this? 


Is it on the Jmol wiki ?

I have authorized uploading .cml, .pdb and .xyz files.

I don't see you in the users list, maybe it's just a problem of permissions. 
Try registering.

I have only tested it from my user access with sysop privileges.

Nico



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Re: [Jmol-users] Jmol applets in MediaWiki and Wikipedia

2006-04-27 Thread nvervell

De: Angel Herraez [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Just from reading the doc, this looks wonderful functionality.

Congratulations, Nico!


Thanks :)



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Re: Re: [Jmol-users] Jmol prerelease 10.00.60 (latest before official release)

2006-04-13 Thread nvervell

1p84.pdb: What a monster! Actually, this bug was never fixed. It's fixed 
now and will appear corrected in the next release.

It was fixed by me, but under an other number (1450367) because the report was 
made twice.

But I made the fix directly in the PDB reader, not elsewhere.

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[Jmol-users] Re: [Jmol-users] Re: Jmol-Übersetzung

2006-04-12 Thread nvervell

De: Daniel Leidert [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Attached is what I have been able to do with the translation so far. I 
 simply edited the files with Notepad under Windows, there seemed to be 
 need to install poedit (or would that give me more insight into 
 anything?).

poedit is - the name already says it - an editor, which is intended to
be used for gettext po files. It is a very special editor for such
files. But every other editor is also fine. There is just one
requirement: The editor _MUST NOT_ add any control characters except for
e.g. newline. MS Word is definitely an editor, which CANNOT be used for
this work.


poEdit really helps editing the translation by clearly showing what needs to be 
translated. But Notepad should work also.


 and b) definitely a 
 test setup so the messages can be seen in the context of the 
 application.

Don't you have an environment to build Jmol on Windows?

 I have basic Eclipse experience so I'll work through the 
 steps tonight.

You will further need gettext for Windows (and if you run the default
target, you will probably also need the applications mentioned at
http://wiki.jmol.org/index.php/Internationalisation#Translating_the_Applet-.2C_User-_and_Developers-Guide).


I have update the Eclipse page, it should be self sufficient:
http://wiki.jmol.org/index.php/Eclipse


 * What happens if I think an English message might need slight changes?

Tell it the list. I still think that e.g. AtomSetChooser is a real bad
string. So if you find more such strings, write it to the list.

Yes, the Java source code needs to be changed.

It won't be changed for 10.2 because it will require to modify all translations 
after that, but suggestions are welcome for next versions.


 I assume msgids coincide with the text displayed in English,

No. The coincide with the text found in the source. (x)gettext parses
the Java source and extracts all translatable strings. It does not know,
what strings it extracts nor in which language they are written.


Yes to both in fact:
- msgid is the english text
- msgid is the key to find the translation


 but I don't 
 suppose I can just go ahead and change ids in the German PO file.


No, never change the msgid or the translation won't be used (or the msgid will 
be reverted to it's original value by gettext tools)


The attachment is forwarded to the list too.


Do I include it in the source or do I wait for the next version ?



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[Jmol-users] Re: [Jmol-users] Jmol-Übersetzung

2006-04-12 Thread nvervell


 No, never change the msgid or the translation won't be used (or the
 msgid will be reverted to it's original value by gettext tools)

gettext AFAIR uses a hash-table. It gets the original string and then
searches the table in the given catalog for the corresponding
translations. It does AFAIR not revert a string from the hash-table.


It does.

For example, if you fix a simple thing in an English string, gettext tools will 
be able to see that it's probably the same string, and the msgid will be 
changed and the translation marked as fuzzy (that's what happened when we added 
the  to the menu items)


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Re: [Jmol-users] zoom/centering changes

2006-04-10 Thread nvervell

Although I see plenty of blank space at the bottom of the page, the  
divs (table cells?) are short (each with a scroll bar) such that I  
cannot view the whole applet and the messaging beneath it at the same  
time.  I can take a screen shot and post it if this is not clear. The  
bottom line is, if the divs went to the bottom of the page, I would  
not need to scroll every single time to see the information you are  
displaying beneath the applet (which takes the top half of the applet  
out of view, as well).


I have the same problem on XP/2k with Firefox/IE

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[Jmol-users] Re: [Jmol-users] Jmol prerelease 10.00.60 (latest before o fficial release)

2006-04-10 Thread nvervell


If release date gets nearer and I still missed to update the German
translation (if nobody else wants to do the update), please give me a
short hint. ATM I have a lot of work, but I don't want to miss the
translation update/translation preparation for 10.2.x.


10.2.0 is scheduled for Friday 04/14 but Sebastian (see other post in mailing 
list) already proposed himself to update the German translation.

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[Jmol-users] Jmol prerelease 10.00.60 (latest before official release)

2006-04-09 Thread nvervell
Jmol prerelease 10.00.60 is now available for download from:

   http://www.jmol.org/files

This release includes:

* hbonds calculate
* changes on Frieda recenter/zoom made in 10.00.59 were reverted

This prerelease should be the latest before the official Jmol release 10.2 
scheduled for next Friday. Please, test this version as much as you can, since 
it will become the next stable release.

Until the release of Jmol 10.2, work should be focused on :
- documentation
- tests
- updating the translations


For translators: if you have time, you can update the translations in your 
language.
Check http://wiki.jmol.org/index.php/Internationalisation

The number of untranslated messages for the languages supported by Jmol is :
- ca (Catalan) : 4
- de (German) : 74
- es (Spanish) : 2
- et (Estonian) : 5
- fr (French) : done
- nl (Dutch) : done
- pt (Portuguese) : 15



The release of 10.2 will be the opportunity to change our version releasing 
scheme.
There will be 2 versions maintained at the same time :
- 10.2.x will be the stable release branch (only bugfixes)
- 10.3.x will be the development release branch (bugfixes, new features, ...)
We also intend to make stable releases more often.

Nico



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Re: [Jmol-users] New Jmol Wiki: No MouseManual

2006-04-08 Thread nvervell

De: Eric Martz [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To the new Wiki developers:

Please restore the former http://wiki.jmol.org/MouseManual into the new wiki.

I did some page renaming when I exported the Wiki to the new format.

So there are two solutions :

- use the new names (Mouse_Manual) in the application. I will do it for it the 
next release of Jmol, is it possible to do it also for FirstGlance ?

- add a MouseManual redirect page in the Wiki.


I think I will do both, so that old versions still access a valid URL, but that 
would be better if new versions were accessing the new page directly


FirstGlance in Jmol (in use by Nature Structural and Molecular Biology) has 
a link to this document, as does Jmol's menu itself (About Jmol, Mouse Manual).


Thanks for pointing this out

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Re: [Jmol-users] New Jmol Wiki: No MouseManual

2006-04-08 Thread nvervell

To the new Wiki developers:

Please restore the former http://wiki.jmol.org/MouseManual into the new wiki.

I did some page renaming when I exported the Wiki to the new format.

So there are two solutions :

- use the new names (Mouse_Manual) in the application. I will do it for it the 
next release of Jmol, is it possible to do it also for FirstGlance ?

Renaming is needed because the wiki uses a different URL formating.
You will have to replace:
http://wiki.jmol.org/MouseManual
by
http://wiki.jmol.org/index.php/Mouse_Manual


- add a MouseManual redirect page in the Wiki.

Done, but it's probably not enough


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[Jmol-users] Jmol prerelease 10.00.59

2006-04-08 Thread nvervell
Jmol prerelease 10.00.59 is now available for download from:

   http://www.jmol.org/files

This release includes:

* Fixed links to the new Wiki
* Updated translations
* Changes in Frieda recenter/zoom
* Many changes in Eval
* Max zoom increase


Note: some changes may not be in the next official release, I have to see with 
Egon.



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Re: [Jmol-users] Jmol prerelease 10.00.57

2006-04-05 Thread nvervell

Miguel wrote:
 Jmol prerelease 10.00.57 is now available for download from:

   http://www.jmol.org/files

 This release:

 * reintroduces the connect() expression (see below)
   
select connect(2)
invalid expression token:connect : select connect(2)
as all other connect(min,max,selection) forms in 10.00.57


I thought it was connected() not connect()

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[Jmol-users] New Jmol Wiki

2006-04-04 Thread nvervell
Hi everyone,

The Jmol Wiki is now using a totally new version under MediaWiki instead of 
MoinMoin Wiki.

The URL is still the same: http://wiki.jmol.org/

It may take a few days for the DNS changes to propagate correctly through the 
internet, so don't worry if you still get the previous wiki, everything should 
be resolved by itself in 1 or 2 days.

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Re: [Jmol-users] New Jmol Wiki

2006-04-04 Thread nvervell

De: Daniel Leidert [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Be sure to patch and/or update it in realtime. MediaWiki often had
security issues.

Ok, it's the last current version.


It seems, that everyone is allowed to change content. I highly recommend
to change this so only registered users are allowed to change content,
or spam will destroy your work.

I prefer to let it that way for the moment and see what happens. If spam 
becomes a problem, then I will require registration.

Note that there are already 2 anti-spam mechanisms in place :
- open-proxy blocking
- blacklist
If they are not enough, I will make registration necessary for edition.


Another question: Since when the GFDL is used as license for the Wiki
content? Did the old Wiki also use the GFDL? AFAIR not and so I do not
agree to use the GFDL license, especially for the parts I wrote - mainly
internationalisation stuff. The information written there should be free
to all - with an all-permissive license or a simple two-liner, which
gives unlimited permission to copy, distribute and modify it.


Ok, I can remove the GFDL license.
Will see this evening.


Regards,
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Re: [Jmol-users] New Jmol Wiki

2006-04-04 Thread nvervell


De: Rzepa, Henry [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re MediaWiki and Jmol.

This seems likely to be a FAQ, but  I am not up on the totality of the postings
to this list.

We have enabled JMol within MediaWiki using eg
http://fahwiki.net/index.php/Jmol_MediaWiki_Extension


Check rather the page on the new wiki :
http://wiki.jmol.org/index.php/MediaWiki

I have updated it yesterday, but it's still a development version only.
I intend to work on it in the next days/weeks to have a fully working extension.


but it seems a very restricted solution, supporting only .xyz files. 
It also mandates the use of hard line breaks to delineate atoms etc.


It was tested only on .xyz files, but it should work with other file formats. 
Check Bduke user's page on the Jmol wiki, I think it's not .xyz file.

What is the problem with the hard line breaks ? They correspond to the line 
breaks in the files.


Is there perchance a solution that supports other formats,  ideally CML,
but at a pinch  MDL Molfiles? 

Try the current version of the extension on the Jmol Wiki, hopefully it will 
work.
If it doesn't work, tell me, I will see what can be done about it.


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Re: [Jmol-users] prerelease 10.00.50

2006-03-28 Thread nvervell

De: Miguel [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 It looks like the 'color' command bug from 10.00.48 that was fixed in
 10.00.49 is not fixed in 10.00.50. If I load a PDB structure with my
 interface Jmol gets stuck and shows the error message below.

 Regards,
 Rolf

Rolf,

I cannot reproduce this problem ... it seems to work OK for me.

I checked Dots.java: it's different from what's in Bob's branch. A test is 
missing in the trunk.
I have committed the change, I think Rolf can try with it.

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Re: [Jmol-users] Relative against absolute addresses

2006-03-26 Thread nvervell

De: Brian Salter-Duke [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I raised this once before, and I may be out of date, but I'd like to
raise it again. It seems necessasry to use relative addresses for
jmol.js and the jmol directory in web pages. I can the see the principle i
here but it causes serious problems in two respects:-

1. When trying to incorporate jmol in wiki pages. One user doing this
reports that ../extensions/jmol is needed for it to work in preview and
./extensions/jmol when the article is saved (I could have these the
wrong way round). An absolute address would fix this. I can not even get
it to work like that user reports. I'm still struggling.

I will work again on Jmol extension for MediaWiki in April, after the Jmol wiki 
is moved to MediaWiki.
If you can wait until then, I will see what can be done to install easily the 
Jmol extension.
Otherwise, you can easily modify Jmol.js to remove the test on absolute 
addresses.

Miguel: would it be ok to add a function like jmolAuthorizeAbsoluteAddress() in 
Jmol.js so that people can desactivate the test on absolute addresses ?


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Re: [Jmol-users] Jmol in Molecular Endocrinology

2006-03-17 Thread nvervell

De: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

My paper describing a database system for glycoprotein-hormone receptors 
(GRIS) is finally accepted and published online by Molecular Endocrinology!

The system makes extensive use of Jmol to visualize the receptor structures 
and for structure analysis tools.


If it's not already done, you can add a description of your website in the Jmol 
Wiki.
http://wiki.jmol.org/WebsitesUsingJmol

Nico



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Re: [Jmol-users] running scripts

2006-03-17 Thread nvervell

I've been trying to debug this, but the script() does not return any 
feedback... null in all cases, even if I make the script invalid. Also tried 
evalScript()... all nulls...

What am I doing wrong?

Are you sure that the command is completed when you script() returns ? I 
thought that script() was asynchronous.

Try adding some delay between each command to see if something is different.


Or better, use scriptWait() instead of script()



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Re: [Jmol-users] running scripts

2006-03-17 Thread nvervell

 Try adding some delay between each command to see if something is
 different.

but I don't see any cartoons even after some time... :(

The problem is that commands are not queued up at all, so I think that if you 
issue a command when the previous one is still running, then the command is 
just lost

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Re: [Jmol-users] Jmol macros: scripting in the application

2006-03-16 Thread nvervell

De: Egon Willighagen [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I'm not what you mean here... yes, hardcoding it in the application is always 
possible... but the nice thing about macros is, is that you don't have to 
recompile Jmol... but maybe I did not understand you.

I was talking about a menu item to an help page on the Macro feature, not a 
macro itself ;)

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Re: [Jmol-users] Broken color command - V.10.00.48

2006-03-10 Thread nvervell

De: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

When I analyzed the problem it showed up that at least the 'color dots' 
command seems to be broken.

When I type for example 'color dots red' in the Jmol console window 
Jmol freezes and I get the following error message in the Java console:


Dots.setProperty('color')
Dots.setProperty('colorConvex')
java.lang.NullPointerException
   at org.jmol.viewer.Dots.setProperty(Dots.java:199)
   at org.jmol.viewer.Dots.setProperty(Dots.java:189)
   at org.jmol.viewer.Frame.setShapeProperty(Frame.java:757)
   at org.jmol.viewer.ModelManager.setShapeProperty(ModelManager.java:347)
   at org.jmol.viewer.Viewer.setShapeProperty(Viewer.java:1838)
   at org.jmol.viewer.Eval.colorObject(Eval.java:1621)
   at org.jmol.viewer.Eval.color(Eval.java:1565)
   at org.jmol.viewer.Eval.instructionDispatchLoop(Eval.java:336)
   at org.jmol.viewer.Eval.run(Eval.java:294)
   at java.lang.Thread.run(Unknown Source)


The error occurs independant of the PDB file that is loaded.

I have tried with the SVN version and I didn't get any problem with a few PDB 
files from the Jmol-datafiles directory.

Nico



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Re: [Jmol-users] Jmol and MediaWiki

2006-03-04 Thread nvervell

Message d'origine
De: Miguel [EMAIL PROTECTED]


 There was some progress about mid 2005 in getting the Jmol applet
 working under Wikis. I am particularly interested in wikis running under
 MediaWiki. I want to be able to display Jmol molecular images on a
 regular basis on a wiki. Does anyone know whether there has been any
 progress since last July? I can not find anything.

Not much progress has been made.

Nico has done some work for MediaWiki.

I am very interested in making things work well with MediaWiki ... but I
am currently swamped with other things.


I haven't work on it for a few months.
The latest version can be found at http://fahwiki.net/
I will probably work on it in a near future, but we need to decide a few things 
with Miguel before.

If you have suggestions on the MediaWiki extension for Jmol, please send them 
to me or to the list.

Nico



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Re: [Jmol-users] My protein dipole moment server now uses jmol

2006-03-01 Thread nvervell

De: Clifford Felder [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Dear Miguel and the jmol user and developer community. More and more sites are
looking to use your wonderful program. I am pleased to announce that my protein
dipole moment server at http://bioinfo.weizmann.ac.il/dipol/indexj.html now
uses jmol to display both the protein as a backbone ribbon and the dipole
vector in jmol. I am grateful to Dr. Jaime Prilusky for his tremendous help to
make this happen.

Feel free to add a reference to your website in the Jmol Wiki:
http://wiki.jmol.org/WebsitesUsingJmol

Nico



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Re: [Jmol-users] [Fwd: [Bug 269973] Java applet causes all typing in browser to

2006-02-28 Thread nvervell

De: Bob Hanson [EMAIL PROTECTED]

PLEASE take a moment and VOTE FOR THIS BUG!

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=269973

It's a known bug; we need it FIXED!

Agreed and done.

I suggest also to vote for this one which depends on a fix to the bug above to 
be fixed:
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=256763

Nico



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Re: [Jmol-users] applet/JavaScript interface possibilities

2006-02-07 Thread nvervell

De: Bob Hanson [EMAIL PROTECTED]

OK, now this is just an idea I'm working with. What I'm interested in 
is others' ideas of what to implement here. Obviously anything that 
can be currently shown should be implemented this way -- 
orientation, for example. What else?

The JSON part seems interesting in the situation of Applet + Javascript, but is 
there an easy way to use it in the situation of Java (for example, when 
integrating Jmol in an other application, or even inside Jmol for the povray 
export) ?

Will we need to code a parser for the JSON String ?

Nico



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Re: [Jmol-users] java error help

2006-02-02 Thread nvervell


De: Frieda Reichsman [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Hi,

I am getting the following error message in the Java console, on Mac  
OSX10.4, can someone tell me what it means? I suspect I am doing  
something simple wrong, but cannot seem to find my error.

error opening file:/Users/friedar/Sites/minm/scitech/boyer/animations/ 
enzyme/cox2.pdb
java.lang.StringIndexOutOfBoundsException: String index out of range: 37
openFile(cox2.pdb) 18 ms

Could you send the pdb files so that we can try to open it and see where the 
exception happens ?

Nico



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Re: [Jmol-users] Re: compressed PDB

2006-02-02 Thread nvervell

De: Egon Willighagen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
A: jmol-users@lists.sourceforge.net
Sujet: Re: [Jmol-users] Re: compressed PDB
Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2006 17:01:37 +0100

On Thursday 02 February 2006 16:56, Tamas Horvath wrote:
 or gzipped of course

 On 2/2/06, Tamas Horvath [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Can Jmol read a zipped/jar-ed pdb file?

Yes, just like an unziped/unjared PDF file. Jmol detects this on the fly.

Are you sure ?
I thought only gzipped files were working, which would make sense:
- gzip is a single file compression format
- zip/jar is compression format for a directory structure: how do you what file 
you should read in it ?

Nico



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Re: [Jmol-users] README.txt file in the distribution

2006-02-02 Thread nvervell


De: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I'd like to see this file expanded to have, even a brief, description of
each of the files in the distribution.

Would you be willing to write the descriptions ?

Nico



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Re: [Jmol-users] README.txt file in the distribution

2006-02-02 Thread nvervell

De: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Oh, I would have already if I knew what they all were. :-)

But other than Jmol.js and Jmol.jar and Jmol.sh I haven't very much of a
clue :-)


Ok, I have done a first version.
I am committing it under CVS.

It's not complete, I hope someone else will modify it

Nico



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Re: [Jmol-users] distinguish some hydrogen atoms

2006-01-26 Thread nvervell

Hi,

De: Kevin Dunn [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I would like to use a different color for hydrogen atoms attached to N or O 
than those attached to C. What is the easiest way to do this using a pdb file?

I tried just lying in the pdb, calling some hydrogens Li, but this seems 
ugly and the van der Waals radii are wrong.

If I call some atomd HA and some HB is there a way to give them different 
colors?

Simply loads your file, select the atoms you want to change color and change 
their color. Use commands like that:
select substructure([H][N]) and substructure([H]);
color atoms blue;

The substructure command is only available in the pre-release version of Jmol 
(you can use it), but there's probably an other way to select only the atoms 
you are interested in.

Nico



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Re: [Jmol-users] CML visualization in Jmol

2006-01-25 Thread nvervell

De: Miguel [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Francois indicated that his CML files have no connectivity information. If
he uses 'set autobond off' then he will have only atoms, with no bonds at
all.

In fact, his example contains bond informations:
  bondArray
bond atomRefs2=1 2 order=1/
bond atomRefs2=1 11 order=1/

Apparently, Jmol doesn't understand them.

For what I understand from the code of CMLReader, the reader expects to have 
the atom ids in the atomRefs attribute, not the atom numbers.

Nico



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Re: [Jmol-users] Loading an pdb file from a url

2006-01-09 Thread nvervell

De: Tjaart de Beer [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Hi

I am a newbie tryinh to developing pages with javascript. I am trying to 
enable a user to load any pdb file (from the PDB) into Jmol from a 
webpage. I have tried using the following:

jmolApplet(600, load http://www.pdb.org/pdb/files/1tx2.pdb;);

without any success. It gives me an error saying bad URL but if I open 
up the link in Firefox I see the physical pdb file.

The idea is to allow the user to type in a pdb file code which will then 
be automatically loaded. Any ideas?

I think this is a security problem, the Applet probably doesn't have the right 
to access an other webserver than the one it was downloaded from.
You should check the archives of the mailing lists (or wait for someone to 
help), there are probably examples on how to do this.

Nico



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Re: [Jmol-users] Jmol prerelease 10.00.43

2005-10-24 Thread nvervell



De: Angel Herraez [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Angel and Nicolas wrote:
 The pop-up About  Mouse Manual and About  Translations do nothing 
 in the app.
 Should that be so?
 (Haven´t tested the applet yet)
 
 Does the About  www.jmol.org do something ? Was it working with 
 previous prereleases ?

All 3 links work in the applet 10.00.43, opening a new browser window 
(Firefox 1.0.6 and IE 6 WIndows)

Good :)

In the app they do nothing.

Quite normal for the moment, there's absolutely no code at all to handle this. 
Something to put on the TODO list.

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Re: [Jmol-users] PFAAT uses Jmol

2005-10-19 Thread nvervell



De: Timothy Driscoll [EMAIL PROTECTED]

hi all,

in case anyone is interested:

I just came across a protein sequence alignment tool called PFAAT  
(http://pfaat.sourceforge.net/).  this software uses Jmol as an  
inline structure visualization module.  it looks pretty cool, and I  
can see great possibilities in the combination. (displaying aligned  
3D structures, coloring 3D structure by alignment score, etc.)

Thanks for the link :)
You should add it in the Jmol wiki at 
http://wiki.jmol.org/ApplicationsEmbeddingJmol

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Re: [Jmol-users] Flow control/timing and Jmol?

2005-09-28 Thread nvervell



De: Rzepa, Henry [EMAIL PROTECTED]

As I have mentioned in the past,  testimonials to the use of  Jmol
in eg Journal pages could perhaps be collected by some volunteer on the 
sf pages.I have about  10 examples sprinkled around various journals,
including  my favorite,  http://www.ch.ic.ac.uk/rzepa/bpr/  which will
appear in  J Chem Ed.   

Why not adding them in the Jmol wiki ? Everyone can add its own contribution.
For example, on the JmolLiterature page ?
http://wiki.jmol.org/JmolLiterature

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Re: [Jmol-users] error building latest CVS version of JMol

2005-09-22 Thread nvervell
Hi,

I did several modifications in build-i18n.xml very recently but I don't have a 
Unix system to test it, only Windows.
I may have done something wrong.

Could you run ant in a more verbose mode and send me the resulting output ?

Thanks for reporting the problem,
Nicolas


De: Rajarshi Guha [EMAIL PROTECTED]

create-application-pot:
 [echo] Generating Jmol.pot (gettext PO-template) file in
src/org/jmol/translation/Jmol ...
[apply] /usr/bin/xgettext: no input file given
[apply] Try `/usr/bin/xgettext --help' for more information.
[apply] Result: 1
[apply] Applied xgettext to 0 files and 0 directories.

BUILD FAILED
/home/rajarshi/src/java/jmol/build-i18n.xml:95: Warning: Could not find
file /home/rajarshi/src/java/jmol/src/org/jmol/translation/Jmol/tmp/Jmol.pot 
to copy.


Am I missing something from my build environment? xgettext is present.



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Re: [Jmol-users] error building latest CVS version of JMol

2005-09-22 Thread nvervell



De: Rajarshi Guha [EMAIL PROTECTED]
The output of running ant -v is attached.

It's strange, the apply task doesn't seem to find the Java source files !
Are you running ant from the jmol directory ?

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Re: Re: [Jmol-users] atomic and ionic radii in Jmol: demonstration page

2005-09-06 Thread nvervell



De: timothy driscoll [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Technical: the page is written completely via javascript to allow
for easy translation/localization --now in English and Spanish--.


localization does not require javascript:

http://www.w3.org/TR/1999/REC-html401-19991224/struct/dirlang.html

it's not required, but it helps a lot to clearly separate what needs to be 
translated and what doesn't need to be translated :
- the javascript is not translated and is the same for all languages
- the html (in fact xml for the source code) is of minimal size, so it's easy 
to maintain the translations when the english page changes.

The same principle was applied for the colors page, the xml source code (the 
file that needs translations) is only 5k (~100 lines), the javascript is about 
35k. Easier for translators



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Re: Re: [Jmol-users] Re: [Jmol-developers] DOC - stereo

2005-09-02 Thread nvervell



De: Bob Hanson [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Do you suggest we add this to the documentation? Maybe at least a health 
warning?

I vote for adding this to the online doc :) both the recipe and the health 
warning

Nicolas

Egon Willighagen wrote:

 the recipe to look at these stereo images is like this:
 
...



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Re: [Jmol-users] (no subject)

2005-08-29 Thread nvervell



A: jmol-users@lists.sourceforge.net

Is ver 10 of jmol available for WinXP Pro? If so where? If not what ver is? 
And, where can I dwnld that ver?

Jmol v10 is available for all platforms with Java 1.4 (maybe with older 
versions).
You can download it from the main page
http://sourceforge.net/projects/jmol/

Nicolas



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Re: [Jmol-users] more documentation examples

2005-08-29 Thread nvervell



De: Sebastian Lisken [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I would have thought that more Jmol-Users subscribers were disturbed by 
that huge file that Nicolas Vervelle posted to the list (by mistake, I 
assume).

Yep, that was a mistake, sorry for that. I didn't check the file size before 
sending it.
The mail was blocked and I asked Egon and Miguel to eventually remove it, but 
it was accepted before my second mail reached them. I would have removed it 
myself, but I don't have admin rights for the mailing lists.

Nicolas



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Re: [Jmol-users] Ligand selection blues

2005-08-02 Thread nvervell
Hi,


De: David Leader [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I am refering to specific ligands in the pdb file which I have in my 
database. I can turn them on with commands of the type:
param name=script value=set hetero off; select LLP; spacefill; 
color cpk; set hydrogen off
Initially I turned these off with the simple command that works in 
rasmol/chime:
param name=altscript value=restrict protein
However in the particular case cited (LLP in 1a8i.pdb) there are 
amino acids in the ligand and Jmol treats the ligand as protein. It 
would be nice if I could specifically turn LLP off, but the best I 
can do to get back to where I was is:
param name=altscript value=restrict 0;cpk off;restrict 
protein;wireframe off; backbone 0.3
Does anyone know a more elegant way of doing this?

I think you can do the following :
If you're using one of the prerelease version, you can specify selection using 
SMILES patterns. Something like :
restrict not substructure(your smiles pattern);

Hope this helps
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Re: [Jmol-users] drums on jmol colors page

2005-07-28 Thread nvervell
Hi,

De: Angel Herraez [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I have started to compile a page describing colors used by Jmol. 
For now, it will be linked from the Wiki 
http://wiki.jmol.org/JmolColors

Your draft is really nice :)

The suggestion for a tooltip seems also good to me, or at least reorganizing 
the matrix to be less vertical (page has a lot of empty space on a big screen).

If you're interested, you can modify the source pages of Jmol website to have 
something similar on the colors page.
Otherwise, I will try to do it in August.

Nicolas



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Re: [Jmol-users] Script loops

2005-07-08 Thread nvervell



De: Richard Spinney [EMAIL PROTECTED]
1)   spin this seems to default to a rotation about the Y axis. Is
there a way to change the rotation to the X or Z axis?

spin set X speed

2)   Loop command: I understand this causes the entire script to repeat
(after a delay). Is there a way to get only part of the script to loop? i.e.

A possible way of doing it is to put the part that will repeat in a separate 
script that is called from the main script (script scriptName


Hope this helps
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Re: [Jmol-users] Script loops

2005-07-08 Thread nvervell



De: Richard Spinney [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Hi Nicolas,

Thanks for the info on the spin command. I tried your idea about a separate
script:

var script1 =move 0 0 51.43 0 0 0 0 0 1; loop 1;
jmolCheckbox(spin off; reset; script1,
 reset; rotate X 90;  spin on, 
 Animation on/off);

But this does not work, I get a message of command expected : script1. Is
it just a syntax error on my part?

You have to create a separate file the script. For example, create a text file 
name script1.txt with the content:
move 0 0 51.43 0 0 0 0 0 1; loop 1;

then in your page :
jmolCheckbox(spin off; reset; script script1.txt,
 reset; rotate X 90;  spin on, 
 Animation on/off);

It should work I think.

Nicolas



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Re: [Jmol-users] Povray and backbone visualization

2005-06-13 Thread nvervell
Hi,


De: Chris Weichenberger [EMAIL PROTECTED]

  Dear all,

I have tried unsuccessfully to render a backbone drawing with povray. I am 
using the standalone jmol.sh script on a Debian linux (kernel version 
2.6.11.10) with the Java Runtime Environment version 1.4.2-01. I start 
jmol (version 10.00 and 10.00.12) from the shell issuing 'jmol.sh 1phz.gz' 
where 1phz is a standard PDB file. The script

select *; cpk off; wireframe off; backbone 100

then shows the backbone as a CA trace in Jmol. Running povray from the 
toolbar only displays a background color picture. However, if I go on to 
select the backbone nitrogen and carbons via

backbone off; select *.N or *.CA or *.C; wireframe 100

to feed this to povray via the toolbar button, it nicely renders a trace 
as also seen on the Jmol screen.

Comparing the two *.pov Jmol output files, I see in the first case an 
empty '#if (showBonds)' section whereas the in the latter I have it filled 
with bond data. Looks like Jmol does not output backbone CA trace by some 
reason. Does anybody have a solution to this problem? I have already 
checked the archives and bug tracker - without results.

I worked on the povray output some time ago (january maybe) to add other things 
than just atoms and bonds, but I left it unfinished because the JmolViewer 
interface needs a lot of work to give access to informations on how every 
element is rendered.
This part must be thought with care.
Maybe Miguel remembers the discussions we had at this time.

Otherwise, the current version outputs only :
- atoms
- bonds (if you don't set wireframe to off)
- and one of the structure (don't remember which) but you have to manually edit 
the .pov: set to true a #declare showXXX.

The showBonds section is empty in the first case because of wireframe off.

Nicolas



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Re: [Jmol-users] [EMAIL PROTECTED]

2005-05-11 Thread nvervell

De: Egon Willighagen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Tuesday 10 May 2005 01:23 pm, Egon Willighagen wrote:
 I'll setup a team; it could be good advertisement for Jmol.

I've been trying for about a day now, with no success... I get this error all 
the time:

The database did not respond. . .
Please try again in several minutes
Sorry for the inconvenience!

Ok, I just tried and it worked :)
Team number is 44383, named Jmol



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Re: Re: [Jmol-users] [EMAIL PROTECTED]

2005-05-11 Thread nvervell



De: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
De: Egon Willighagen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Tuesday 10 May 2005 01:23 pm, Egon Willighagen wrote:
 I'll setup a team; it could be good advertisement for Jmol.

I've been trying for about a day now, with no success... I get this error all 
the time:

The database did not respond. . .
Please try again in several minutes
Sorry for the inconvenience!

Ok, I just tried and it worked :)
Team number is 44383, named Jmol

I have just returned the first points for Jmol team :)
I have switched 8 of my fah clients to Jmol team, the rest will follow later.

Nicolas



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Re: [Jmol-users] [EMAIL PROTECTED]

2005-05-10 Thread nvervell

De: Egon Willighagen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Nicolas,

is there a Jmol team for FAH?

I don't think so, but it can be a good idea ;)
If you create one, that will be a difficult decision for me to switch team 
(letting my 300.000 points to the old team and starting again at 0).

Nicolas



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[Jmol-users] Java Embedding Plugin 0.9.1, supports Mac OS X Tiger

2005-05-10 Thread nvervell
Might interest some of you :
The Java Embedding Plugin is a utility that allows other web browsers than 
Apple's Safari to use the most recent available versions of Java on Mac OS X 
(Java 1.4.X and, on Tiger, Java 1.5).When used together with an updated version 
of Mozilla's MRJ Plugin Carbon (included in this distribution), the Java 
Embedding Plugin's functionality is currently available to recent versions of 
Mozilla, Firefox and Camino. But in principle any web browser could use one of 
the Java Embedding Plugin's two APIs to add
support for Java 1.4.X and (where available) Java 1.5.



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Re: [Jmol-users] jmol

2005-04-22 Thread nvervell
I have added a Smiles parser in Jmol recently (development version only) but 
currently it is only used to do pattern matching.
I thought of adding a Smiles reader also but I don't know how to give 
coordinates to the atoms so I didn't look deeper into it.

Nicolas


De: Karol Kozak [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Dear Jmol users,
I am going to use jmol as applet. Is any chance to read smiles as input
parameter? 



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Re: Re: [Jmol-users] atom colours

2005-04-06 Thread nvervell



De: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Thanks Tim! Unfortunately I'm behind a corporate fire-wall that won't
permit CVS access so I'm not able to just grab the source anytime I want
to :-(

You can still use the viewCVS interface of sourceforge (it is browser based)



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Re: Re: Re: [Jmol-users] atom colours

2005-04-06 Thread nvervell



 You can still use the viewCVS interface of sourceforge (it is browser
 based)

Thanks for the suggestion and I just spent some time poking about a bit
with it. I don't think this type of access would have helped in this case
because unless you already know your way around all the sources I don't
see any way of finding something when you don't know where to look. But
maybe I am just so unfamiliar with sourceforge's CVS presentation that I'm
missing the obvious.

No, you're right, I was thinking that you knew were to look. My mistake.
Ycan use CVSGrab (found at sourceforge) which is a CVS client that uses 
viewCVS. I have never used it but it seems its goal is exactly to checkout from 
CVS bypassing firewalls.
Let me know if you try it.

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Re: [Jmol-users] two consoles

2005-03-23 Thread nvervell
Hi,

The first one is here essentially for debugging purposes, it is where the logs 
are printed. Usually a normal user has not much interest in this one. It is 
mainly for developers. System.out and System.err are redirected there.

The second one if for the scripting language: input commands and get commands 
results.

I thought it was possible to access both consoles from the top menu. I don't 
have access right now to a Jmol app so I can't check it.

Nicolas

De: Herraez Sanchez Angel [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Hi
I have just found out that there are two different Jmol consoles in the app. 
One opens under the top menu, 'Help'  'Jmol console', the other opens from 
the pop-up menu 'Console'  'Open/Close' (and it's the one where ore can type 
commands).
Can someone clarify what is the purpose of each? 
To me it is a little misleading; they should have different names.
Also, it could be interesting to have access to both from the top menu.



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Re: Re: [Jmol-users] two consoles

2005-03-22 Thread nvervell

De: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I thought it was possible to access both consoles from the top menu. I don't 
have access right now to a Jmol app so I can't check it.

I was able to check : the second console is accessible with File / Script



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[Jmol-users] Re: Select hydrogens bonded to nitrogens

2005-03-22 Thread nvervell
Hi,

a month ago someone asked about selecting hydrogens bonded to nitrogens.
The only solution found at this time was to work with distance.

A new command substructure() has been added to the development version of Jmol 
that should work for this :
select hydrogen and substructure([NH])

To try it, you will have to checkout the latest version of the source code from 
CVS and build Jmol.

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Re: Re: [Jmol-users] drag'n'drop

2005-02-15 Thread nvervell




Hi,De: "Miguel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>A: jmol-users@lists.sourceforge.net Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2005 08:05:25 -0500 (EST)Hi All,  may be this is a very stupid question, but is the drag and drop  functionality non working at all in Jmol, or is it just a problem in  MacOSX, or is it just a problem on my mac?   Many thanks  Adriano,  There is no support for drag-n-drop
in Jmol. 

Miguel, it has been added to Jmol very recently, thansk to Simon Tyrrel.
It's the FileDropper class in the org.openscience.jmol.app package.
It would only work in the Jmol application, not in the unsigned Jmol applet. 

Yes, it works only with the application and JVM 1.5 (not for 1.4)
It is only present in the prerelease version of Jmol (version 10.00.07)

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