Re: [Jmol-users] need 2-propenyl sulfenic acid molecular model
that didn't work, though. Try putting around that url. Does this work? http://chemagic.com/web_molecules/script_page_large.aspx?smiles=...@h]%28%28c%29c%29[c@H]1CC[C@@H]2[C@@]1%28c...@h]3[c@H]2CCC4[C@@]3%284%29C%29C On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 8:47 PM, Otis Rothenberger osrot...@chemagic.comwrote: Bob, This is the cat's meow. Thanks for the help. I'm still stuck with a server side approach (AJAX very frustrating!), but the Jmol load completed approach seems to work. Cholestane is below. What a slick way to communicate 3D models via email: http://chemagic.com/web_molecules/script_page_large.aspx?smiles=...@h ]%28%28c%29c%2...@h]1cc[c@@H]2[C@@]1%28c...@h]3[c@H]2CCC4[C@ @]3%284%29C%29C For the JME applet on our page, I'm now using a choice of two load links - jmeFile or smiles. I'm interested in how the above link works on Mac. Also, note that the jmol javascript command does not work with Windows MSIE 8, so the above link does not work on MSIE. On this problem, MSIE ignores the following from the console: javascript alert(rats) The message returned is: evalintermediatevaluetoreturn = eval ( !!_jmol.noEval ) Chrome and Firefox work just fine - link load and simple alert. Unfortunately, MSIE never sees the Jmol loaded function. I think the stereochemisrty of cholestane transferred correctly. Otis On 6/1/2010 12:37 PM, Robert Hanson wrote: On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 9:03 AM, Otis Rothenberger osrot...@chemagic.comwrote: Bob, You may have told me before, but I forget. How do you signal JavaScript that the Jmol applet is loaded? I've tried putting a Jmol javascript command into the Jmol load script, but MSIE seems to ignore this. jmolApplet(300, load ;javascript 'loadDone()' ) Sorry -- my error -- in this case you need double quotes or no quotes, not single quotes (because it is in the class of commands such as echo and message. That should read: jmolApplet(300, 'load ;javascript loadDone() ') AJAX would be nice, but I can't get past the cross domain security issue with the unsigned applet. The signed applet scares many users, so I'm using my server to get past this issue. Unfortunately, this means each SMILES to mofile is a new load on my page. AJAX would be perfect. Just have the applet issue the above loadDone() function, and then have the AJAX just return the data as text from IU to a JavaScript function. I know, it's tricky to do this right with different browsers Getting the returned molfile into into a JavaSript variable is a bit convoluted with ASP.NET, but it's doable. Normally this is not a problem, but the line feeds create a problem in the case of the molfile. I have to go to a hidden field and then transfer to a JavaScript variable. Sounds retro. Anyway, with the above stage set, I just need to be able to hold the JavaScript load to Jmol off until the applet is loaded. right - switch those quotes. Otis -- ___ Jmol-users mailing list Jmol-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jmol-users -- Robert M. Hanson Professor of Chemistry St. Olaf College 1520 St. Olaf Ave. Northfield, MN 55057 http://www.stolaf.edu/people/hansonr phone: 507-786-3107 If nature does not answer first what we want, it is better to take what answer we get. -- Josiah Willard Gibbs, Lecture XXX, Monday, February 5, 1900 -- ___ Jmol-users mailing list Jmol-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jmol-users
Re: [Jmol-users] need 2-propenyl sulfenic acid molecular model
looks like that works, but I'm not very satisfied with the conformational outcome! On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 8:35 AM, Robert Hanson hans...@stolaf.edu wrote: that didn't work, though. Try putting around that url. Does this work? http://chemagic.com/web_molecules/script_page_large.aspx?smiles=...@h]%28%28c%29c%29[c@H]1CC[C@@H]2[C@@]1%28c...@h]3[c@H]2CCC4[C@@]3%284%29C%29C On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 8:47 PM, Otis Rothenberger osrot...@chemagic.comwrote: Bob, This is the cat's meow. Thanks for the help. I'm still stuck with a server side approach (AJAX very frustrating!), but the Jmol load completed approach seems to work. Cholestane is below. What a slick way to communicate 3D models via email: http://chemagic.com/web_molecules/script_page_large.aspx?smiles=...@h ]%28%28c%29c%2...@h]1cc[c@@H]2[C@@]1%28c...@h]3[c@H]2CCC4[C@ @]3%284%29C%29C For the JME applet on our page, I'm now using a choice of two load links - jmeFile or smiles. I'm interested in how the above link works on Mac. Also, note that the jmol javascript command does not work with Windows MSIE 8, so the above link does not work on MSIE. On this problem, MSIE ignores the following from the console: javascript alert(rats) The message returned is: evalintermediatevaluetoreturn = eval ( !!_jmol.noEval ) Chrome and Firefox work just fine - link load and simple alert. Unfortunately, MSIE never sees the Jmol loaded function. I think the stereochemisrty of cholestane transferred correctly. Otis On 6/1/2010 12:37 PM, Robert Hanson wrote: On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 9:03 AM, Otis Rothenberger osrot...@chemagic.comwrote: Bob, You may have told me before, but I forget. How do you signal JavaScript that the Jmol applet is loaded? I've tried putting a Jmol javascript command into the Jmol load script, but MSIE seems to ignore this. jmolApplet(300, load ;javascript 'loadDone()' ) Sorry -- my error -- in this case you need double quotes or no quotes, not single quotes (because it is in the class of commands such as echo and message. That should read: jmolApplet(300, 'load ;javascript loadDone() ') AJAX would be nice, but I can't get past the cross domain security issue with the unsigned applet. The signed applet scares many users, so I'm using my server to get past this issue. Unfortunately, this means each SMILES to mofile is a new load on my page. AJAX would be perfect. Just have the applet issue the above loadDone() function, and then have the AJAX just return the data as text from IU to a JavaScript function. I know, it's tricky to do this right with different browsers Getting the returned molfile into into a JavaSript variable is a bit convoluted with ASP.NET, but it's doable. Normally this is not a problem, but the line feeds create a problem in the case of the molfile. I have to go to a hidden field and then transfer to a JavaScript variable. Sounds retro. Anyway, with the above stage set, I just need to be able to hold the JavaScript load to Jmol off until the applet is loaded. right - switch those quotes. Otis -- ___ Jmol-users mailing list Jmol-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jmol-users -- Robert M. Hanson Professor of Chemistry St. Olaf College 1520 St. Olaf Ave. Northfield, MN 55057 http://www.stolaf.edu/people/hansonr phone: 507-786-3107 If nature does not answer first what we want, it is better to take what answer we get. -- Josiah Willard Gibbs, Lecture XXX, Monday, February 5, 1900 -- Robert M. Hanson Professor of Chemistry St. Olaf College 1520 St. Olaf Ave. Northfield, MN 55057 http://www.stolaf.edu/people/hansonr phone: 507-786-3107 If nature does not answer first what we want, it is better to take what answer we get. -- Josiah Willard Gibbs, Lecture XXX, Monday, February 5, 1900 -- ___ Jmol-users mailing list Jmol-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jmol-users
Re: [Jmol-users] need 2-propenyl sulfenic acid molecular model
tisk tisk! Never use setTimeout to do the Jmol load. Use a call FROM Jmol indicating it has loaded to trigger your AJAX call or whatever. On Mon, May 31, 2010 at 6:02 PM, Otis Rothenberger osrot...@chemagic.comwrote: Bob, Right now I pass it from a server variable to a hidden field on the page load. This is followed by an onLoad call to a TimeOut() load into Jmol. I suspect that timing is the issue. I have to find a better way to do it. AJAX per your subsequent email may be the answer. If I understand AJAX, I will not have to do a new page load. I'm also having problems with triple bonds (#) in the query string. I guess I need to try sending escaped text. Otis On 5/31/2010 6:33 PM, Robert Hanson wrote: Otis, I had to load that page twice to have it work. Don't know why... Bob On Mon, May 31, 2010 at 1:09 PM, Otis Rothenberger osrot...@chemagic.comwrote: Hello Miguel, I have Bob's IU server page discovery hooked to an unsigned applet via our server at chemagic. The following link should take you directly to the model your son needs: http://chemagic.com/web_molecules/script_page_large.aspx?smiles=C=CCSO Otis On 5/31/2010 2:01 PM, Angel Herráez wrote: Coolest method: 1. find the SMILES string for 2-propenyl sulfenic acid 2. get the latest Jmol 12.0.RC 3. open the script console 4. type load $C=CCSO 5. watch the 3D structure appear in Jmol Kudos to Bob! -- ___ Jmol-users mailing list Jmol-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jmol-users -- Otis Rothenberger chemagic.com -- ___ Jmol-users mailing list Jmol-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jmol-users -- Robert M. Hanson Professor of Chemistry St. Olaf College 1520 St. Olaf Ave. Northfield, MN 55057 http://www.stolaf.edu/people/hansonr phone: 507-786-3107 If nature does not answer first what we want, it is better to take what answer we get. -- Josiah Willard Gibbs, Lecture XXX, Monday, February 5, 1900 -- ___ Jmol-users mailing listjmol-us...@lists.sourceforge.nethttps://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jmol-users -- Otis Rothenbergerchemagic.com -- ___ Jmol-users mailing list Jmol-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jmol-users -- Robert M. Hanson Professor of Chemistry St. Olaf College 1520 St. Olaf Ave. Northfield, MN 55057 http://www.stolaf.edu/people/hansonr phone: 507-786-3107 If nature does not answer first what we want, it is better to take what answer we get. -- Josiah Willard Gibbs, Lecture XXX, Monday, February 5, 1900 -- ___ Jmol-users mailing list Jmol-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jmol-users
Re: [Jmol-users] need 2-propenyl sulfenic acid molecular model
On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 9:03 AM, Otis Rothenberger osrot...@chemagic.comwrote: Bob, You may have told me before, but I forget. How do you signal JavaScript that the Jmol applet is loaded? I've tried putting a Jmol javascript command into the Jmol load script, but MSIE seems to ignore this. jmolApplet(300, load ;javascript 'loadDone()' ) Sorry -- my error -- in this case you need double quotes or no quotes, not single quotes (because it is in the class of commands such as echo and message. That should read: jmolApplet(300, 'load ;javascript loadDone() ') AJAX would be nice, but I can't get past the cross domain security issue with the unsigned applet. The signed applet scares many users, so I'm using my server to get past this issue. Unfortunately, this means each SMILES to mofile is a new load on my page. AJAX would be perfect. Just have the applet issue the above loadDone() function, and then have the AJAX just return the data as text from IU to a JavaScript function. I know, it's tricky to do this right with different browsers Getting the returned molfile into into a JavaSript variable is a bit convoluted with ASP.NET, but it's doable. Normally this is not a problem, but the line feeds create a problem in the case of the molfile. I have to go to a hidden field and then transfer to a JavaScript variable. Sounds retro. Anyway, with the above stage set, I just need to be able to hold the JavaScript load to Jmol off until the applet is loaded. right - switch those quotes. Otis On 6/1/2010 9:24 AM, Robert Hanson wrote: tisk tisk! Never use setTimeout to do the Jmol load. Use a call FROM Jmol indicating it has loaded to trigger your AJAX call or whatever. On Mon, May 31, 2010 at 6:02 PM, Otis Rothenberger osrot...@chemagic.comwrote: Bob, Right now I pass it from a server variable to a hidden field on the page load. This is followed by an onLoad call to a TimeOut() load into Jmol. I suspect that timing is the issue. I have to find a better way to do it. AJAX per your subsequent email may be the answer. If I understand AJAX, I will not have to do a new page load. I'm also having problems with triple bonds (#) in the query string. I guess I need to try sending escaped text. Otis -- Otis Rothenbergerchemagic.com -- ___ Jmol-users mailing list Jmol-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jmol-users -- Robert M. Hanson Professor of Chemistry St. Olaf College 1520 St. Olaf Ave. Northfield, MN 55057 http://www.stolaf.edu/people/hansonr phone: 507-786-3107 If nature does not answer first what we want, it is better to take what answer we get. -- Josiah Willard Gibbs, Lecture XXX, Monday, February 5, 1900 -- ___ Jmol-users mailing list Jmol-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jmol-users
Re: [Jmol-users] need 2-propenyl sulfenic acid molecular model
Bob, This is the cat's meow. Thanks for the help. I'm still stuck with a server side approach (AJAX very frustrating!), but the Jmol load completed approach seems to work. Cholestane is below. What a slick way to communicate 3D models via email: http://chemagic.com/web_molecules/script_page_large.aspx?smiles=...@h]%28%28c%29c%29[c@H]1CC[C@@H]2[C@@]1%28c...@h]3[c@H]2CCC4[C@@]3%284%29C%29C For the JME applet on our page, I'm now using a choice of two load links - jmeFile or smiles. I'm interested in how the above link works on Mac. Also, note that the jmol javascript command does not work with Windows MSIE 8, so the above link does not work on MSIE. On this problem, MSIE ignores the following from the console: javascript alert(rats) The message returned is: evalintermediatevaluetoreturn = eval ( !!_jmol.noEval ) Chrome and Firefox work just fine - link load and simple alert. Unfortunately, MSIE never sees the Jmol loaded function. I think the stereochemisrty of cholestane transferred correctly. Otis On 6/1/2010 12:37 PM, Robert Hanson wrote: On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 9:03 AM, Otis Rothenberger osrot...@chemagic.com mailto:osrot...@chemagic.com wrote: Bob, You may have told me before, but I forget. How do you signal JavaScript that the Jmol applet is loaded? I've tried putting a Jmol javascript command into the Jmol load script, but MSIE seems to ignore this. jmolApplet(300, load ;javascript 'loadDone()' ) Sorry -- my error -- in this case you need double quotes or no quotes, not single quotes (because it is in the class of commands such as echo and message. That should read: jmolApplet(300, 'load ;javascript loadDone() ') AJAX would be nice, but I can't get past the cross domain security issue with the unsigned applet. The signed applet scares many users, so I'm using my server to get past this issue. Unfortunately, this means each SMILES to mofile is a new load on my page. AJAX would be perfect. Just have the applet issue the above loadDone() function, and then have the AJAX just return the data as text from IU to a JavaScript function. I know, it's tricky to do this right with different browsers Getting the returned molfile into into a JavaSript variable is a bit convoluted with ASP.NET http://ASP.NET, but it's doable. Normally this is not a problem, but the line feeds create a problem in the case of the molfile. I have to go to a hidden field and then transfer to a JavaScript variable. Sounds retro. Anyway, with the above stage set, I just need to be able to hold the JavaScript load to Jmol off until the applet is loaded. right - switch those quotes. Otis -- ___ Jmol-users mailing list Jmol-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jmol-users
Re: [Jmol-users] need 2-propenyl sulfenic acid molecular model
Otis Rothenberger wrote: Bob, This is the cat's meow. Thanks for the help. I'm still stuck with a server side approach (AJAX very frustrating!), but the Jmol load completed approach seems to work. Cholestane is below. What a slick way to communicate 3D models via email: http://chemagic.com/web_molecules/script_page_large.aspx?smiles=...@h]%28%28c%29c%29[c@H]1CC[C@@H]2[C@@]1%28c...@h]3[c@H]2CCC4[C@@]3%284%29C%29C For the JME applet on our page, I'm now using a choice of two load links - jmeFile or smiles. I'm interested in how the above link works on Mac. Also, note that the jmol javascript command does not work with Windows MSIE 8, so the above link does not work on MSIE. On this problem, MSIE ignores the following from the console: In thunderbird 2.0 (on a mac) the link isn't recognised as one (stops at the first [ character) but if I copy the whole thing and paste it into FF 3.6 (or safari 4.0) it works just fine. You do appear to have misspelled your last name on the page though. :-) Rich -- ___ Jmol-users mailing list Jmol-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jmol-users
Re: [Jmol-users] need 2-propenyl sulfenic acid molecular model
Same for me with Mac Mail. *** Jeff Hansen Department of Chemistry and Biochemistry DePauw University 602 S. College Ave. Greencastle, IN 46135 jhan...@depauw.edu *** On Jun 1, 2010, at 10:10 PM, rgb wrote: Otis Rothenberger wrote: Bob, This is the cat's meow. Thanks for the help. I'm still stuck with a server side approach (AJAX very frustrating!), but the Jmol load completed approach seems to work. Cholestane is below. What a slick way to communicate 3D models via email: http://chemagic.com/web_molecules/script_page_large.aspx?smiles=...@h]%28%28c%29c%29[c@H]1CC[C@@H]2[C@@]1%28c...@h]3[c@H]2CCC4[C@@]3%284%29C%29C For the JME applet on our page, I'm now using a choice of two load links - jmeFile or smiles. I'm interested in how the above link works on Mac. Also, note that the jmol javascript command does not work with Windows MSIE 8, so the above link does not work on MSIE. On this problem, MSIE ignores the following from the console: In thunderbird 2.0 (on a mac) the link isn't recognised as one (stops at the first [ character) but if I copy the whole thing and paste it into FF 3.6 (or safari 4.0) it works just fine. You do appear to have misspelled your last name on the page though. :-) Rich -- ___ Jmol-users mailing list Jmol-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jmol-users -- ___ Jmol-users mailing list Jmol-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jmol-users
Re: [Jmol-users] need 2-propenyl sulfenic acid molecular model
Hi Miguel! You can draw it and have Jmol optimize 3D Or draw it elsewhere and optimize 3D (I use ChemSketch) then save and open in Jmol -- ___ Jmol-users mailing list Jmol-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jmol-users
Re: [Jmol-users] need 2-propenyl sulfenic acid molecular model
Coolest method: 1. find the SMILES string for 2-propenyl sulfenic acid 2. get the latest Jmol 12.0.RC 3. open the script console 4. type load $C=CCSO 5. watch the 3D structure appear in Jmol Kudos to Bob! -- ___ Jmol-users mailing list Jmol-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jmol-users
Re: [Jmol-users] need 2-propenyl sulfenic acid molecular model
Hello, you could also try to search it on the net, maybe in this site http://cdb.ics.uci.edu/cgibin/ChemicalSearchWeb.psp regards -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: Miguel Howard [mailto:mig...@jmol.org] Gesendet: Montag, 31. Mai 2010 18:16 An: jmol-users@lists.sourceforge.net Betreff: [Jmol-users] need 2-propenyl sulfenic acid molecular model My son is doing a report on 2-propenyl sulfenic acid for his high school chemistry class. He would like to incorporate Jmol into his presentation ... and I think that is a good idea :) Q: Where can I get a file for 2-propenyl sulfenic acid? Thanks! Miguel -- ___ Jmol-users mailing list Jmol-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jmol-users -- ___ Jmol-users mailing list Jmol-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jmol-users
Re: [Jmol-users] need 2-propenyl sulfenic acid molecular model
Hello Miguel, I have Bob's IU server page discovery hooked to an unsigned applet via our server at chemagic. The following link should take you directly to the model your son needs: http://chemagic.com/web_molecules/script_page_large.aspx?smiles=C=CCSO Otis On 5/31/2010 2:01 PM, Angel Herráez wrote: Coolest method: 1. find the SMILES string for 2-propenyl sulfenic acid 2. get the latest Jmol 12.0.RC 3. open the script console 4. type load $C=CCSO 5. watch the 3D structure appear in Jmol Kudos to Bob! -- ___ Jmol-users mailing list Jmol-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jmol-users -- Otis Rothenberger chemagic.com -- ___ Jmol-users mailing list Jmol-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jmol-users
Re: [Jmol-users] need 2-propenyl sulfenic acid molecular model
Bob, the SMILES support is really *fantastic*! In the conversion from SMILES - 3D ... Q: ... are the atom locations more-or-less correct for a low-energy configuration? Q: ... are the bond angles more-or-less correct? Miguel -- ___ Jmol-users mailing list Jmol-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jmol-users
Re: [Jmol-users] need 2-propenyl sulfenic acid molecular model
Otis, I had to load that page twice to have it work. Don't know why... Bob On Mon, May 31, 2010 at 1:09 PM, Otis Rothenberger osrot...@chemagic.comwrote: Hello Miguel, I have Bob's IU server page discovery hooked to an unsigned applet via our server at chemagic. The following link should take you directly to the model your son needs: http://chemagic.com/web_molecules/script_page_large.aspx?smiles=C=CCSO Otis On 5/31/2010 2:01 PM, Angel Herráez wrote: Coolest method: 1. find the SMILES string for 2-propenyl sulfenic acid 2. get the latest Jmol 12.0.RC 3. open the script console 4. type load $C=CCSO 5. watch the 3D structure appear in Jmol Kudos to Bob! -- ___ Jmol-users mailing list Jmol-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jmol-users -- Otis Rothenberger chemagic.com -- ___ Jmol-users mailing list Jmol-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jmol-users -- Robert M. Hanson Professor of Chemistry St. Olaf College 1520 St. Olaf Ave. Northfield, MN 55057 http://www.stolaf.edu/people/hansonr phone: 507-786-3107 If nature does not answer first what we want, it is better to take what answer we get. -- Josiah Willard Gibbs, Lecture XXX, Monday, February 5, 1900 -- ___ Jmol-users mailing list Jmol-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jmol-users
Re: [Jmol-users] need 2-propenyl sulfenic acid molecular model
Bob, Right now I pass it from a server variable to a hidden field on the page load. This is followed by an onLoad call to a TimeOut() load into Jmol. I suspect that timing is the issue. I have to find a better way to do it. AJAX per your subsequent email may be the answer. If I understand AJAX, I will not have to do a new page load. I'm also having problems with triple bonds (#) in the query string. I guess I need to try sending escaped text. Otis On 5/31/2010 6:33 PM, Robert Hanson wrote: Otis, I had to load that page twice to have it work. Don't know why... Bob On Mon, May 31, 2010 at 1:09 PM, Otis Rothenberger osrot...@chemagic.com mailto:osrot...@chemagic.com wrote: Hello Miguel, I have Bob's IU server page discovery hooked to an unsigned applet via our server at chemagic. The following link should take you directly to the model your son needs: http://chemagic.com/web_molecules/script_page_large.aspx?smiles=C=CCSO Otis On 5/31/2010 2:01 PM, Angel Herráez wrote: Coolest method: 1. find the SMILES string for 2-propenyl sulfenic acid 2. get the latest Jmol 12.0.RC 3. open the script console 4. type load $C=CCSO 5. watch the 3D structure appear in Jmol Kudos to Bob! -- ___ Jmol-users mailing list Jmol-users@lists.sourceforge.net mailto:Jmol-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jmol-users -- Otis Rothenberger chemagic.com http://chemagic.com -- ___ Jmol-users mailing list Jmol-users@lists.sourceforge.net mailto:Jmol-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jmol-users -- Robert M. Hanson Professor of Chemistry St. Olaf College 1520 St. Olaf Ave. Northfield, MN 55057 http://www.stolaf.edu/people/hansonr phone: 507-786-3107 If nature does not answer first what we want, it is better to take what answer we get. -- Josiah Willard Gibbs, Lecture XXX, Monday, February 5, 1900 -- ___ Jmol-users mailing list Jmol-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jmol-users -- Otis Rothenberger chemagic.com -- ___ Jmol-users mailing list Jmol-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jmol-users
