Josm 15937 crashes on a simple selection.
I just updated to josm 15937. I open a small gpx track, only 33K, download the osm data for the area (quite small). Almost any attempt to select a node gives an immediate exception, so there seems to be a serious and basic problem. I have submitted a couple of tickets. ael
Re: [josm-dev] Latest josm seems to be crashing Xorg
I have just tested with java-8 and there is no crash. ael ___ josm-dev mailing list josm-dev@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/josm-dev
Re: [josm-dev] Latest josm seems to be crashing Xorg
On Wed, Feb 10, 2016 at 07:28:08PM +0100, Richard wrote: > On Tue, Feb 09, 2016 at 03:45:02PM +0000, ael wrote: > > On Mon, Feb 08, 2016 at 11:20:06PM +0100, Richard wrote: > > > On Mon, Feb 08, 2016 at 08:14:37PM +, ael wrote: > > > > I am not sure what is happeing here, but downloading the latest > > > > josm version a few minutes ago and attempting to run it crashes > > > > Xorg with "Bus error at address 0x0". > > > > > > > > I am on debian testing, and using > > > > > gdb is surely the best thing to do, even without the debug packages. > However sometimes strace/ltrace might also be very usefull. > BTW I find it handy to attach strace, ltrace or gdb to running processes > with "-p PID" > > it might be related to the particular video driver in the kernel. Did you > look at kernel messages? Yes, I consulted /var/log/kern.log and even (spit) journalctl. The later just had the Xorg.O.log message already reported. I tried strace and ltrace in the hope that they might help me select which processes to aim at with gdb. The strace log was not very informative, at least to me. Much more interesting was that the crash *did not occur" when using ltrace. However, ltrace reported [pid 3819] __libc_start_main(0x400660, 3, 0x7ffc1057f658, 0x4007a0 [pid 3819] JLI_Launch(3, 0x7ffc1057f658, 1, 0 [pid 3820] --- SIGSEGV (Segmentation fault) --- [pid 3820] --- SIGSEGV (Segmentation fault) --- [pid 3820] --- SIGSEGV (Segmentation fault) --- [pid 3820] --- SIGSEGV (Segmentation fault) --- [pid 3840] --- Called exec() --- [pid 3840] __libc_start_main(0x401a20, 2, 0x7ffdca1534b8, 0x405420 right at the start. I haven't worked out what process was running as 3820, but it seems like the first obvious target for gbd. I imagine that JLI_Launch is from /usr/lib/jvm/java-7-openjdk-amd64/jre/lib/amd64/jli/libjli.so but it seems to have been stripped of symbols. I hope to have more to report later. I suppose that I should also try with java-8. ael ___ josm-dev mailing list josm-dev@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/josm-dev
Re: [josm-dev] Latest josm seems to be crashing Xorg
On Tue, Feb 09, 2016 at 05:26:00PM +0100, Dirk Stöcker wrote: > On Tue, 9 Feb 2016, ael wrote: > > >As I said before, my most recent attempts to submit tickets seemed > >to silently fail. > > That should not be the case. You either should get an error message or a new > ticket is created. JOSM-Server is one of the most straight-forward servers I > know and I try to keep it that way. No login or special procedure required > for ticket submissions. > > Only exception is SPAM slipping through - This is silently discarded by the > admins, but I assume your tickets did not look like SPAM to an admin? I don't think so. I used to submit occasional tickets without any problems. If this current problem really is josm, I will try again. ael ___ josm-dev mailing list josm-dev@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/josm-dev
Re: [josm-dev] Latest josm seems to be crashing Xorg
On Mon, Feb 08, 2016 at 11:20:06PM +0100, Richard wrote: > On Mon, Feb 08, 2016 at 08:14:37PM +0000, ael wrote: > > I am not sure what is happeing here, but downloading the latest > > josm version a few minutes ago and attempting to run it crashes > > Xorg with "Bus error at address 0x0". > > > > I am on debian testing, and using > > that is more a Debian problem but try running josm with > strace -f java ... > trace.txt 2>&1 > ltrace -f java ... > ltrace.txt 2>&1 > > and look what happened before the Xserver crashed. Might be something > that is possible to workaround. I was going to try with gdb: I hope there are dbg (with gdb symbols) versions of the packages around. Will try to find time to look further maybe later today. As I said in my follow up message, I now don't think it is likely to be a josm problem. But I am surprised that no one else seems to have reported such a major issue. I have sent a message to openjdk@list. Thanks for the reply. I am not now planing on trying to submit a ticket against josm since it looks like a debian/java problem as of now. As I said before, my most recent attempts to submit tickets seemed to silently fail. ael ___ josm-dev mailing list josm-dev@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/josm-dev
[josm-dev] Latest josm seems to be crashing Xorg
I have just tested josm-tested and the same thing happens, so it looks as if it is a debian/java problem rather than anything to do with josm. Sorry for the noise, but it might be useful to know that there is a problem on debian testing just now. Here is the extract from Xorg.0.log: [ 3637.585] (EE) Backtrace: [ 3637.585] (EE) 0: /usr/lib/xorg/Xorg (xorg_backtrace+0x4e) [0x5642f568249e] [ 3637.585] (EE) 1: /usr/lib/xorg/Xorg (0x5642f54cd000+0x1b9819) [0x5642f5686819] [ 3637.585] (EE) 2: /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6 (0x7f96cf8cd000+0x33590) [0x7f96cf900590] [ 3637.585] (EE) 3: /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6 (0x7f96cf8cd000+0x785e8) [0x7f96cf9455e8] [ 3637.585] (EE) 4: /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6 (__libc_calloc+0xd5) [0x7f96cf948395] [ 3637.585] (EE) 5: /usr/lib/xorg/Xorg (0x5642f54cd000+0x508b2) [0x5642f551d8b2] [ 3637.585] (EE) 6: /usr/lib/xorg/Xorg (0x5642f54cd000+0x53a3f) [0x5642f5520a3f] [ 3637.585] (EE) 7: /usr/lib/xorg/Xorg (0x5642f54cd000+0x57a53) [0x5642f5524a53] [ 3637.585] (EE) 8: /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6 (__libc_start_main+0xf0) [0x7f96cf8ed870] [ 3637.585] (EE) 9: /usr/lib/xorg/Xorg (_start+0x29) [0x5642f550ede9] [ 3637.585] (EE) [ 3637.585] (EE) Bus error at address 0x0 [ 3637.585] (EE) Fatal server error: [ 3637.585] (EE) Caught signal 7 (Bus error). Server aborting [ 3637.585] (EE) ael ___ josm-dev mailing list josm-dev@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/josm-dev
[josm-dev] josm version 9017 seems to deadlock
I have just updated josm to the latest version 9107 on an i386 machine. When I try to donwload from osm, it appears to deadlock. I have tried repeatedly. I have opened a ticket, but there is not much information there. I have tried sveral more times, and things now seem to be non deterministic: on the 3 most recent attempts, I do not get past the "loading window". I have not tried cleaning any files in ~/.josm/ .I guess clearing the cache might help: update:- Clearing the cache did not help. It seems pretty badly broken... ael ___ josm-dev mailing list josm-dev@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/josm-dev
Re: [josm-dev] An incredible and unexpected use of JOSM
On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 09:55:42AM +0200, Maarten Deen wrote: > Really the only thing car manufacturers need to install in a car is > an Android tablet. No a linux tablet, like the Pengpod :-) ael ___ josm-dev mailing list josm-dev@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/josm-dev
[josm-dev] josm 4541
Is it just me, or is version 4541 not working? Several of the buttons on the left menu including the "list of all loaded layers" do not function (a brief flash of a white window, when clicked). Likewise for properties of selected objects. Thus it is no longer possible to edit. I am aware that there have been changes to the user interface recently which I have not followed in any detail. Perhaps I just do not understand the new system, but for someone who has been using josm for several years, it is not obvious what I should do. Or am I seeing bugs? ael ___ josm-dev mailing list josm-dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/josm-dev
Re: [josm-dev] validator question, multipolygons
On Sat, Mar 05, 2011 at 04:44:29PM +0100, hbogner wrote: > On 03/04/2011 10:57 PM, Frederik Ramm wrote: > >To understand the severity of this, take this example: You are new to > >JOSM. You map a road and tag it highway=road. You hit upload. You get > >(emphasis by me): > > > >Data WITH ERRORS. Upload anyway? > >+ Warnings > > + ILLEGAL tag/value combinations - temporary highway type > >new mapper the "Your data has errors" message conveys: We don't want > >your data, please stop what you're doing! > > We lost some new OSM mappers because of this. > Validator was making them angry with its constant warnings, street > without names, ... and so on, and they stopped mapping. > So please tune(tune, not turn) the validator down, or write Just to add my voice to all of this. It is the tone of the messages that is all wrong with so little explanation. I was thoroughly confused as a new mapper, and was led to misinterpret the significance of crossing ways: I thought that the validator must know more than I did at that stage. It was a long time ago, but I still find that validator complaining in what seems strong language for what may be intended or innocuous. It is, of course, very useful, but the error/warnings need more explanation. ael ___ josm-dev mailing list josm-dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/josm-dev
Re: [josm-dev] Relation editor usability
Sorry if I am hijacking this thread, but on a related topic, I recently wanted to tag a landuse area. Instead of the old simple area tag, I was prompted to create a relation. The problem was I had no clue what sort of relation was being suggested, there was no link or other help. I searched the wiki and no joy. So I just aborted that and manually used the old type of tag. My suspicion is that the idea of a relation was to allow annular rings and the like, and that maybe roles like "inner" and "outer" were expected. But I had no way of checking. For someone new to josm, it would be even more confusing. So before new undocumented tags are introduced, there needs to be at least some minimal help or guidance. ael ___ josm-dev mailing list josm-dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/josm-dev
Re: [josm-dev] turn restriction preset
Following this up, I can now use the standard relation editor for a turn restriction. Likewise the turn-restriction plugin once I find the hidden magic hot keys. But I have not yet successfuly used the turn restriction preset. Whatever I select, it always gives an invalid selection message. ael ___ josm-dev mailing list josm-dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/josm-dev
[josm-dev] Relation editor vanished in version 3327?
May be I am being stupid, but I can't find the relation editor in the latest version of josm: 3327. No icon matching the help pages, no entry in the main menus. I tried installing the turn restriction plugin, but I can't get that to do anything either :-) The icon appears in the left hand panel, and a matching entry on the right hand panel. Eventually I looked at the preferences and found a key binding which did bring up the turn restriction plugin. Once I had created a relation with that, I could also use the standard relation editor. But there seemed to be no way to create a new relation from that standrd editor. What am I missing? Or should I create a ticket? ael ___ josm-dev mailing list josm-dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/josm-dev
Re: [josm-dev] Image Direction / Compass Camera images
On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 02:23:40PM +0200, Dirk Stöcker wrote: > > to use that information in josm would be very useful, The measurement plugin > > looked possible, but it has been broken for months now: presumably it is > > no longer maintained (no response to tickets). > > There are currently two active bug fixers: Jiri and Sebastian. They can't > do everything and JOSM core has precedence for them most time :-) It wasn't really a complaint: more of an observation. I assumed that the original authors would maintain. It would be useful to have some way to know which is the latest version of josm to work with any particular plugin. Then it would be much easier to move back to a "known good" version. But I can see that is not quite straighforward with limited person power ael ___ josm-dev mailing list josm-dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/josm-dev
Re: [josm-dev] Image Direction / Compass Camera images
On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 10:16:33PM +0200, Florian Lohoff wrote: > as Sony released the DSC HX5V with GPS _and_ a compass i'd like to see > the bearing in JOSM. Ordinary compasses have been around for rather longer :-) Surely almost everyone who navigates in mountainous areas has a decent compass? I sometimes take bearings along streets in towns where the gps signals are poor. A simple way to use that information in josm would be very useful, The measurement plugin looked possible, but it has been broken for months now: presumably it is no longer maintained (no response to tickets). ael ___ josm-dev mailing list josm-dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/josm-dev
Re: [josm-dev] Remove internal help browser?
Karl Guggisberg wrote: > Hi, > > I plan to remove JOSMs internal help browser and to always delegate to an > external browser, for two reasons: Consider mapping in remote areas using portable device such as netbook. 1) Download appropriate area using josm and save osm file. 2) Collect gps data until handheld gps device full: at end of day (in tent?) transfer tracks from gps to netbook. Edit local osm file using josm. No net connection. 3) Iterate for several days. [osm editing is best done while memory fresh, and area can be checked if problems..] Some form of local help for josm is really needed in such cases. ael ___ josm-dev mailing list josm-dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/josm-dev
Re: [josm-dev] Newticket: Submission rejected as potential spam
Stefan Breunig wrote: This problem exists because of ticket #1967 and should be fixed by updating the plugin. Can you elaborate why updating the plugin fails? Just an unhelpful message box saying that there were problems. No details or further information. Screen dump attached FWIIW. Not sure if the list will accept attachments (16K jpeg). I haven't tried clearing ~/.josm, read #1967, or setting any debug flags as yet... ael <>___ josm-dev mailing list josm-dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/josm-dev
[josm-dev] Newticket: Submission rejected as potential spam
I have just had my attempt to create a ticket about AgPifoj rejected as spam: Submission rejected as potential spam (Akismet says content is spam) The content was almost entirely a cut and paste of the josm error report :-( Here is the main text: -- AgPiFoj has not worked here for the last few versions of josm: at least versions 1439 and 1490. Errors reported when updating plugins. Attempt to use then gives report below: Path: trunk URL: http://josm.openstreetmap.de/svn/trunk Repository Root: http://josm.openstreetmap.de/svn Repository UUID: 0c6e7542-c601-0410-84e7-c038aed88b3b Revision: 1490 Node Kind: directory Last Changed Author: ulfl Last Changed Rev: 1490 Last Changed Date: 2009-03-14 10:38:45 +0100 (Sat, 14 Mar 2009) Java version: 1.6.0_12 Plugins: AgPifoJ;validator;wmsplugin Plugin AgPifoJ Version: 13985 Plugin validator Version: 14015 Plugin wmsplugin Version: 14015 java.lang.NoSuchFieldError: worker at org.openstreetmap.josm.plugins.agpifoj.AgpifojLayer.create(Unknown Source) at org.openstreetmap.josm.plugins.agpifoj.AgpifojPlugin$Action.actionPerformed(Unknown Source) at javax.swing.AbstractButton.fireActionPerformed(AbstractButton.java:1995) at javax.swing.AbstractButton$Handler.actionPerformed(AbstractButton.java:2318) at javax.swing.DefaultButtonModel.fireActionPerformed(DefaultButtonModel.java:387) at javax.swing.DefaultButtonModel.setPressed(DefaultButtonModel.java:242) at javax.swing.AbstractButton.doClick(AbstractButton.java:357) at javax.swing.plaf.basic.BasicMenuItemUI.doClick(BasicMenuItemUI.java:1225) at javax.swing.plaf.basic.BasicMenuItemUI$Handler.mouseReleased(BasicMenuItemUI.java:1266) at java.awt.AWTEventMulticaster.mouseReleased(AWTEventMulticaster.java:272) at java.awt.Component.processMouseEvent(Component.java:6216) at javax.swing.JComponent.processMouseEvent(JComponent.java:3265) at java.awt.Component.processEvent(Component.java:5981) at java.awt.Container.processEvent(Container.java:2041) at java.awt.Component.dispatchEventImpl(Component.java:4583) at java.awt.Container.dispatchEventImpl(Container.java:2099) at java.awt.Component.dispatchEvent(Component.java:4413) at java.awt.LightweightDispatcher.retargetMouseEvent(Container.java:4556) at java.awt.LightweightDispatcher.processMouseEvent(Container.java:4220) at java.awt.LightweightDispatcher.dispatchEvent(Container.java:4150) at java.awt.Container.dispatchEventImpl(Container.java:2085) at java.awt.Window.dispatchEventImpl(Window.java:2475) at java.awt.Component.dispatchEvent(Component.java:4413) at java.awt.EventQueue.dispatchEvent(EventQueue.java:599) at java.awt.EventDispatchThread.pumpOneEventForFilters(EventDispatchThread.java:269) at java.awt.EventDispatchThread.pumpEventsForFilter(EventDispatchThread.java:184) at java.awt.EventDispatchThread.pumpEventsForHierarchy(EventDispatchThread.java:174) at java.awt.EventDispatchThread.pumpEvents(EventDispatchThread.java:169) at java.awt.EventDispatchThread.pumpEvents(EventDispatchThread.java:161) at java.awt.EventDispatchThread.run(EventDispatchThread.java:122) --- Can someone fix Akismet ? ael ___ josm-dev mailing list josm-dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/josm-dev
Re: [josm-dev] Steps and bridges on footways
Dirk Stöcker wrote: > On Sun, 8 Mar 2009, ael wrote: > >> Apologies. I now realize that "steps" is a highway tag mutually >> exclusive with highway=footway, so I guess that explains the problem. I >> expected it to be a property... > > Also validator complained a bit too much. Fixed that now. It complained about step_count earlier today... ael ___ josm-dev mailing list josm-dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/josm-dev
Re: [josm-dev] Steps and bridges on footways
ael wrote: > Stefan Breunig wrote: >> Seems to work fine for me – presets offer the "Bridge" checkbox and >> it's also rendered nicely. Please be more specfic what you mean by >> "accepting"? Doesn't it render, isn't it offered in the presets or are >> your manually set tags even removed? In any case, can you give an >> example (i.e tags; is it way or node?) where the action fails? > > Sorry. I should have been clearer. I frequently draw a complete footway, > and then "cut" it into pieces at the bridges and steps and the like. I > find this more efficient in terms of tagging. I then use the edit/add > tag option (sorry, don't have josm open just now) to add the extra tags > for those portions. That is when I can't find the bridge or steps tags. > I can "force" them, but then validator complains. Apologies. I now realize that "steps" is a highway tag mutually exclusive with highway=footway, so I guess that explains the problem. I expected it to be a property... ael ___ josm-dev mailing list josm-dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/josm-dev
Re: [josm-dev] Steps and bridges on footways
Stefan Breunig wrote: > Seems to work fine for me – presets offer the "Bridge" checkbox and > it's also rendered nicely. Please be more specfic what you mean by > "accepting"? Doesn't it render, isn't it offered in the presets or are > your manually set tags even removed? In any case, can you give an > example (i.e tags; is it way or node?) where the action fails? Sorry. I should have been clearer. I frequently draw a complete footway, and then "cut" it into pieces at the bridges and steps and the like. I find this more efficient in terms of tagging. I then use the edit/add tag option (sorry, don't have josm open just now) to add the extra tags for those portions. That is when I can't find the bridge or steps tags. I can "force" them, but then validator complains. The issue is with tags only, not rendering. ael > On Sat, Mar 7, 2009 at 19:29, ael wrote: >> Some time ago, josm stopped offering or accepting accepting steps or >> bridges on footways. I just confirmed on the lastest: v 1463. >> >> This must surely be a bug? >> >> ael >> >> ___ >> josm-dev mailing list >> josm-dev@openstreetmap.org >> http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/josm-dev >> > > > ___ josm-dev mailing list josm-dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/josm-dev
[josm-dev] Steps and bridges on footways
Some time ago, josm stopped offering or accepting accepting steps or bridges on footways. I just confirmed on the lastest: v 1463. This must surely be a bug? ael ___ josm-dev mailing list josm-dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/josm-dev
[josm-dev] Latest josm [615]: unhandled exception when splitting ways
I have just submitted a ticket. Trying to split a way using the appropriate tool: Repository Root: http://www.openstreetmap.de/svn/josm Repository UUID: 0c6e7542-c601-0410-84e7-c038aed88b3b Revision: 615 Node Kind: directory Last Changed Author: framm Last Changed Rev: 615 Last Changed Date: 2008-04-19 18:24:12 +0200 (Sat, 19 Apr 2008) java.util.ConcurrentModificationException at java.util.LinkedList$ListItr.checkForComodification(LinkedList.java:761) at java.util.LinkedList$ListItr.next(LinkedList.java:696) at org.openstreetmap.josm.gui.NavigatableComponent.getNearestWaySegments(NavigatableComponent.java:158) at org.openstreetmap.josm.gui.NavigatableComponent.getNearestWaySegment(NavigatableComponent.java:206) at org.openstreetmap.josm.gui.NavigatableComponent.getNearestWaySegment(NavigatableComponent.java:215) at org.openstreetmap.josm.gui.NavigatableComponent.getNearestWay(NavigatableComponent.java:222) at org.openstreetmap.josm.gui.NavigatableComponent.getNearest(NavigatableComponent.java:242) at org.openstreetmap.josm.gui.MapStatus$Collector.run(MapStatus.java:148) at java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:619) ael ___ josm-dev mailing list josm-dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/josm-dev
Re: [josm-dev] Geometry stuff committed
Frederik Ramm wrote: > Hi, > >>> I'm getting a validator plugin error when I try to load a gpx file with this >>> latest version and disabling the plugin at the message popups that follow [..snip..] >> Same here. Ticket opened before I saw this email. > > That bug is now gone in r610 which can be downloaded immediately. > Sorry for the inconvenience, I had moved a function inside JOSM and > forgot that plugins might use that function. I have now re-instated > the missing function in JOSM but in the long run will update the > plugins. Seems ok now. For some reason I needed several attempts to reinstall the validator, but then it worked fine. ael ___ josm-dev mailing list josm-dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/josm-dev
Re: [josm-dev] Geometry stuff committed
Andy Robinson (blackadder) wrote: > I'm getting a validator plugin error when I try to load a gpx file with this > latest version and disabling the plugin at the message popups that follow > doesn’t work (although after a fresh restart the validator plugin checkbox > is not ticked and JOSM runs fine on gpx file load) > > Updated my plugins but the problem persists. > > Path: josm > URL: http://www.openstreetmap.de/svn/josm > Repository Root: http://www.openstreetmap.de/svn/josm Same here. Ticket opened before I saw this email. ael ___ josm-dev mailing list josm-dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/josm-dev
Re: [josm-dev] validator plugin crash
Ted Mielczarek wrote: > Just tried to compile the validator plugin and noticed that it needed > this small change. I don't have SVN access, someone want to commit Maybe that is related to the crash that the latest josm has with the validator installed (ticket submitted)? ael ___ josm-dev mailing list josm-dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/josm-dev
[josm-dev] Latest josm fails to join nodes on tracks
The latest josm (Version 598) fails to draw lines between raw gps points even when configured under preferences so to do. Am I really the first to notice this? ael ___ josm-dev mailing list josm-dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/josm-dev
Re: [josm-dev] Newbie question
ael wrote: > Often when I upload to OSM, I am presented with errors or warnings that > the validator has not detected. > > My problem is in locating these errors. Often I can spot them visually > or just by checking recent edits. I have tried clicking on the error box > and the like in an attempt to highlight or select the offending nodes > or ways, but to no avail. With the errors spotted by the validator, it > is all easy, but I can't find any similar mechanism for the error dialog > presented during uploads. Just to round off this thread: I am now convinced that the problem was that identified by Martijn van Oosterhout - the validator plugin only checks the current selection. That was quite unexpected, although now that I am used to it, it has a sort of inner logic. It needs documenting, and I would have contributed a note if only I could find the validator documentation. Thanks for all the replies. ael ___ josm-dev mailing list josm-dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/josm-dev
Re: [josm-dev] Newbie question
Martijn van Oosterhout wrote: > On Jan 10, 2008 4:59 PM, ael <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Maybe, but how would I know that it was the validator? Whenever this >> happened, I "reactivated" the validator: clicked the check icon/ toggled >> the validator vertical menu icon on and off. No errors or warning were >> reported. But on attempting the upload once again, the every same >> error/warning box appeared. > > Something that got me a few times is that clicking the validate button > while something is selected only checks the selected things. What I do > is unselect everything, zoom out a bit and then hit the validate > button. That seems to work for me... Thanks for that. It might well be that I had something selected, and that was the problem. ael ___ josm-dev mailing list josm-dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/josm-dev
Re: [josm-dev] Newbie question
Dermot McNally wrote: > On 09/01/2008, Frederik Ramm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> You're saying you got a dialogue box with an error message that >> contained coordinates? Totally news to me - next time this happens, >> can yo somehow make a screenshot or so? > > It sounds to me like the validator plugin doing its precheck - so the > "co-ordinates" would be the node and way IDs. Maybe, but how would I know that it was the validator? Whenever this happened, I "reactivated" the validator: clicked the check icon/ toggled the validator vertical menu icon on and off. No errors or warning were reported. But on attempting the upload once again, the every same error/warning box appeared. Next time it happens, I will take a screen shot as suggested by Frederik. I didn't realize that this was unusual: it happens frequently, so I am suspicious that I have not described the problem accurately. ael ___ josm-dev mailing list josm-dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/josm-dev
Re: [josm-dev] Newbie question
Frederik Ramm wrote: > Hi, > >> Often when I upload to OSM, I am presented with errors or warnings that >> the validator has not detected. >> >> My problem is in locating these errors. Often I can spot them visually >> or just by checking recent edits. I have tried clicking on the error box >> and the like in an attempt to highlight or select the offending nodes >> or ways, but to no avail. With the errors spotted by the validator, it >> is all easy, but I can't find any similar mechanism for the error dialog >> presented during uploads. >> >> This message is prompted by a case where "two crossing ways" were >> reported, but I couldn't locate them, so I uploaded anyway. > > Crossing ways are in no way checked by the server, so you should be > able to upload data with as many crossing ways as you like and it > should not complain. > >> In the past I have actually read the coordinates from the dialogue box >> and manually entered them (I couldn't cut-and-paste: why not?) and found >> errors that way, but it was impossibly slow and tedious. > > You're saying you got a dialogue box with an error message that > contained coordinates? Totally news to me - next time this happens, > can yo somehow make a screenshot or so? >From memory, yes. I certainly went through that painful process of re-entering coordinates and indeed found and corrected errors. A little while ago when I had just started, so the exact details are now hazy. As for the current problem, I tried to reproduce the error by downloading and then uploading the particular area, but there was no error report this time. That seems to agree with the comment above that "crossing ways" are not erroneous. I assumed that the error box was directly generated by josm (or maybe a plugin) rather than prompted by a server response. Thanks for the reply. I will try to remember to take a screen shot the next time this happens. ael ___ josm-dev mailing list josm-dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/josm-dev
[josm-dev] Newbie question
I am not sure if this is the right place to ask a newbie question, but anyway:- I am using the latest josm (version 516). I have the validator (version 5609) plugin installed. Often when I upload to OSM, I am presented with errors or warnings that the validator has not detected. My problem is in locating these errors. Often I can spot them visually or just by checking recent edits. I have tried clicking on the error box and the like in an attempt to highlight or select the offending nodes or ways, but to no avail. With the errors spotted by the validator, it is all easy, but I can't find any similar mechanism for the error dialog presented during uploads. This message is prompted by a case where "two crossing ways" were reported, but I couldn't locate them, so I uploaded anyway. In the past I have actually read the coordinates from the dialogue box and manually entered them (I couldn't cut-and-paste: why not?) and found errors that way, but it was impossibly slow and tedious. Am I missing something? ael ___ josm-dev mailing list josm-dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/josm-dev
