Re: [JOYnet] Zeal for my father
Let me share one of my experiences with you. Few months before I was talking to a friend a mine who was very upset with lots of illness in his house. After talking to him for some time God made it clear that he is not sharing his wealth with the poor, although he has good faith. After prayers I advised him to start a new 'account' for God today itself and transfer 3% of his monthly income (to start with) to God's account every month. Don't worry about spending it because God will send his people to you whenever He needs His money. By the grace of God he started practicing it! He called me a couple of months before saying that a lot of his problems are solved and he is very happy with family now. Another good news what he told me is that now he is transferring 5% of his monthly income to God's account. Praise the Lord! Let me share with you some of the points I shared with my friends from Bible: Jacob made an oath at Bethel ... Of all that you will give me I will surely give the tenth to you. (Genesis 28:22). Here Jacob acknowledged that whatever he received is from God and he was faithful to the giver that he kept aside 10% for his Giver. St. Paul asks us ... what do you have that you didn't receive? (1 Cor 4:7) If it is received free then why we are not sharing? One of my friend in our core group always say that God will only invest (like in share market) wherever he gets good return. Do you want to invest in God's share market? Here is the law (Luke 6:38). Give, and it will be given to you: good measure, pressed down, shaken together, and running over, will be given to you. For with the same measure you measure it will be measured back to you. One preacher from Kerala told me, 10% of your income is God's money. Anything what you do from your 90% is called charity!! It sounds bit hard, yet it is promising if you look at these quotes: Tobit 4:10-11 Almsgiving frees one from death, and keeps one from going into the dark abode. Alms are a worthy offering in the sight of the Most High for all who give them. Sirach 29:12-13 Store up almsgiving in your treasure house, and it will save you from every evil; better than a stout shield and a sturdy spear it will fight for you against the foe Tobit 12:8 Prayer and fasting are good, but better than either is almsgiving accompanied by righteousness. Friends, let us invest heavily in God's share market. Before deciding about how much to invest, remember what Jesus told us If you have two, give away one (50% share). If you want to be perfect, go, sell what you have, and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven; and come, follow me. (100% share) With lots of love and prayers Wilson Thomas (Singapore) === This mail is generated from JOYnet, a Jesus Youth mailing list. For more info on the list visit http://www.jesusyouth.org/joynet To unsubscribe from the list send a mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To subscribe to the list visit http://www.jesusyouth.org/joynet/join In case of any issue related to the mailing list contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] ===
[JOYnet] Don't Let Me Cry
Dear Friends... it is a nice story... and like the boy in this story i also pray to the Lord to give me strength to face all trials and tribulations in my life... and really God is giving me the strength.. first i use to get disappoint if any small thing goes wrong.. now i don't take much tensions..coz i know Lord is there to take care of everything Biji Thomas Dont Let Me Cry My son Gilbert was eight years old and had been in Cub Scouts only a short time. During one of his meetings he was handed a sheet of paper, a block of wood and four tires and told to return home and give all to dad. That was not an easy task for Gilbert to do. Dad was not receptive to doing things with his son. But Gilbert tried. Dad read the paper and scoffed at the idea of making a pine wood derby car with his young, eager son. The block of wood remained untouched as the weeks passed. Finally, mom stepped in to see if I could figure this all out. The project began. Having no carpentry skills, she decided it would be best if she simply read the directions and let Gilbert do the work. And he did. She read aloud the measurements, the rules of what they could do and what we couldn't do. Within days his block of wood was turning into a pinewood derby car. A little lopsided, but looking great (at least through the eyes of mom). Gilbert had not seen any of the other kids cars and was feeling pretty proud of his Blue Lightning, the pride that comes with knowing you did something on your own. Then the big night came. With his blue pinewood derby in his hand and pride in his heart they headed to the big race. Once there Gilbert's pride turned to humility. His car was obviously the only car made entirely on his own. All the other cars were a father-son partnership, with cool paint jobs and sleek body styles made for speed. A few of the boys giggled as they looked at Gilbert's lopsided, wobbly, unattractive vehicle. To add to the humility Gilbert was the only boy without a man at his side. A couple of the boys who were from single parent homes at least had an uncle or grandfather by their side, Gilbert had Mom. As the race began it was done in elimination fashion. You kept racing as long as you were the winner. One by one the cars raced down the finely sanded ramp. Finally it was between Gilbert and the sleekest, fastest looking car there. As the last race was about to begin, my wide eyed, shy eight year old ask if they could stop the race f! or a minute, because he wanted to pray. The race stopped. Gilbert hit his knees clutching his funny looking block of wood between his hands. With a wrinkled brow he set to converse with his Father. He prayed in earnest for a very long minute and a half. Then he stood, smile on his face and announced, 'Okay, I am ready. As the crowd cheered, a boy named Tommy stood with his father as their car sped down the ramp. Gilbert stood with his Father within his heart and watched his block of wood wobble down the ramp with surprisingly great speed and rushed over the finish line a fraction of a second before Tommy's car. Gilbert leaped into the air with a loud Thank you as the crowd roared in approval. The Scout Master came up to Gilbert with microphone in hand and asked the obvious question, So you prayed to win, huh, Gilbert? To which the young boy answered, Oh, no sir. That wouldn't be fair to ask God to help you beat someone else. I just asked Him to make it so I don't cry when I lose. Children seem to have a wisdom far beyond us. Gilbert didn't ask God to win the race, he didn't ask God to fix the out come, Gilbert asked God to give him strength in the outcome. When Gilbert first saw the other cars he didn't cry out to God, No fair, they had a fathers help. No, he went to his Father for strength. Perhaps we spend too much of our prayer time asking God to rig the race, to make us number one, or too much time asking God to remove us from the struggle, when we should be seeking God's strength to get through the struggle. Gilbert didn't pray to win, thus hurt someone else, he prayed that God supply the grace to lose with dignity. Gilbert, by his stopping the race to speak to his Father also showed the crowd that he wasn't there without a dad, but His Father was most definite! ly there with him. Yes, Gilbert walked away a winner that night, with his Father at his side Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* === This mail is generated from JOYnet, a Jesus Youth mailing list. For more info on the list visit http://www.jesusyouth.org/joynet To unsubscribe from the list send a mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To subscribe to the list visit http://www.jesusyouth.org/joynet/join In case of any issue related to the mailing list contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[JOYnet] prayer request
Dear Friends in Christ, I have a job interview with a reputed company next Tuesday or Wednesday at Delhi. Please pray for me. Anil Philip Varghese Bangalore STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* === This mail is generated from JOYnet, a Jesus Youth mailing list. For more info on the list visit http://www.jesusyouth.org/joynet To unsubscribe from the list send a mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To subscribe to the list visit http://www.jesusyouth.org/joynet/join In case of any issue related to the mailing list contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] ===
[JOYnet] Zeal for My Father
Dear friends Another way of giving to the Church in addition to your money, is your time and talent. Our parish took on a Stewardship mission where they actively promoted the 3T's for 2 years in a row: Time, Talent, Treasure. It is so important that we give back to the Church, and the world, what the Lord has given us. So try not to just dish out the cash if possible... give of yourself as well. :) Sometimes the time we put in to spend with others, and the abilities we have that we decide to offer as help to the community is appreciated ten times more than money. So remember... the 3 T's! It will make you and others more joyful and will teach us all to give in many ways. I will try to share more about zeal for the Lord soon. Love Prayers, Leese (Lisa Jose/Philadelphia/PA/USA) Binu Augustin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear Joynetters, I think it is a very valid point pointed out by Berly. I am sure many of us will be regulary spending even more than 10 % of their income for others as well as for building the body of Christ . Even I know that one Joynet couple spends 10 % for evagelization and another 10 % for charity work regularly. Manoj Sunny used to encourage us to develop a habit of offering 10 % for supporting evagelisation( church) and another 10 % for Charity. Anyway this will be the choice of the individuals.May be some of the Joynetters could enlighten us more about this particular area. It is true that we encourage each other regarding our spiritual growth, constants etc.. However ,are we encouraging others to develop the habit of offering our thithe ? What Alice chechi did is a valid example. Often we may not feel very difficult to share our money for others, but we find it really difficult to collect money for others if we do not have enough with us. Moreover ,we also may be little hesitant to encourage others to share their income with others, as we do have a fear within us , since money is a very delicate area where we could be easily misunderstood and criticized by others. But in any case, I believe as we regulary share our thithe , we do have the responsibility to encourage others to do so. Binu Augustin Souly for the Son, Leese (Lisa Jose) Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now === This mail is generated from JOYnet, a Jesus Youth mailing list. For more info on the list visit http://www.jesusyouth.org/joynet To unsubscribe from the list send a mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To subscribe to the list visit http://www.jesusyouth.org/joynet/join In case of any issue related to the mailing list contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] ===
[JOYnet] Praise the Lord! (One more time)
I have no idea why the e-mail was empty. Sorry about that.This is an e-mail I got from my sister yesterday: Hey everyone just wanted to share and keep you all up to date, I had an ultra sound done here yesterday, and it is showing no such thing as a Placenta Previa (PRAISE THE LORD).nbsp; The doctor tells me all are well, and that I can go back to work. I will be going back to work tom. thank you one and all for all your prayers, please do keep praying for us. All the glory and praise to our good lord. lol and prayers Geena and Sony and a little angel\ Please continue to keep her in your prayers.nbsp; Please also pray that Sony might get a jobnbsp; in the field that he studied in.nbsp; May GOD bless you all. Love and Prayers in Jesus, Mary and Joseph Leena _ Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail === This mail is generated from JOYnet, a Jesus Youth mailing list. For more info on the list visit http://www.jesusyouth.org/joynet To unsubscribe from the list send a mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To subscribe to the list visit http://www.jesusyouth.org/joynet/join In case of any issue related to the mailing list contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] ===
Re: [JOYnet] Praise the Lord!
you have a call remember ,?do not forget your brothers who aresuffering on this earth coz Jesus said :remewmber that even you you are in flesh Leena Philip [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: === This mail is generated from JOYnet, a Jesus Youth mailing list. For more info on the list visit http://www.jesusyouth.org/joynet To unsubscribe from the list send a mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To subscribe to the list visit http://www.jesusyouth.org/joynet/join In case of any issue related to the mailing list contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] === Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now === This mail is generated from JOYnet, a Jesus Youth mailing list. For more info on the list visit http://www.jesusyouth.org/joynet To unsubscribe from the list send a mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To subscribe to the list visit http://www.jesusyouth.org/joynet/join In case of any issue related to the mailing list contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] ===
[JOYnet] On Family prayer day for unity
Hello family, Hope you all had nice time praying for our family intention last week.I didn;t see any body sharing any thing on that,what happened? For us in Chicago it was a great experience. Some of us in our service team used to pray in the morning over phone for some time (Siju, Jose, Georgee, Manoj and Sunil) before they start their personel prayer. We wives also join them . This is just to get a boost for our personel prayer..and to see to it that nobody misses their Prayer time. Siju will be on his way to church (before going to work),driving the car...So he starts the chain from his cell phone at around 6.15 am EST by calling Jose and the chain ends with Dr. Manoj Neriamparambil. This comes often as a wake up call for myself who still would very much like to curl under my comforter ,in this bone chilling weather which reached even -23 C last week!!!. We could pray for 15 minutes or so that day especially for the intention around 6.30 am(6.00 pm in India) After that while i went on with my personel prayer ,i was thanking God with great joy for this great opportunity to pray with thousands around the world same time. And about us who were born in India , had we ever thought that we'll be doing such things years later together in another part of the world ! ??? . Praise the Lord and Thanks to the technology. ..and to Him who is able to accomplish far more than all we ask or imagine, by the power at work within us,to Him be glory in the church and in Christ Jesus to all generations,forever and ever. Amen. -Ephes 3:20. Any suggestions for our next prayer day? In joyful communion, Sindhu, Chicago,USA. === This mail is generated from JOYnet, a Jesus Youth mailing list. For more info on the list visit http://www.jesusyouth.org/joynet To unsubscribe from the list send a mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To subscribe to the list visit http://www.jesusyouth.org/joynet/join In case of any issue related to the mailing list contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] ===
[JOYnet] Prayer request from Singapore
Dear Friends of Christ, By the grace of God for the last 3 years we were conducting retreats in Singapore during Chinese New year holidays. The same is happening this year from Feb 1st to 9th. Following are the schedules and its details. Please keep us in your prayers. PreachersFr. Abraham Kaiyakuzhiyil Br. George Gloria Sr. Tessin Andrews Sr. Jose Mary ScheduleFeb 1st, 2nd and 3rd- Open for all Malayalees Feb 5th and 6th- Only for Nurses Ministry Feb 7th, 8th and 9th - For Team leaders from all Ministries You strong intercession is required for the success. Thanks and Praise to our Lord for all his blessings with Lots of love and prayers Wilson Thomas Singapore === This mail is generated from JOYnet, a Jesus Youth mailing list. For more info on the list visit http://www.jesusyouth.org/joynet To unsubscribe from the list send a mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To subscribe to the list visit http://www.jesusyouth.org/joynet/join In case of any issue related to the mailing list contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] ===
[JOYnet] tithe...
Hello, I just want to support What Wilson wrote : Our tithe - 10% of the income is not our money. That belongs to the Lord. We have to share from the rest 90% with our brothers and sisters.. How can we spend from this 10% when it doesn't belong to us at all ? That is the money to be used/given for the ministry/evangelisation work only.. The rest 90% is ours and we have to share it with the less privileged/needy. Wishing you a joyful year of GIVING ahead, Manoj Sunny, India. === This mail is generated from JOYnet, a Jesus Youth mailing list. For more info on the list visit http://www.jesusyouth.org/joynet To unsubscribe from the list send a mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To subscribe to the list visit http://www.jesusyouth.org/joynet/join In case of any issue related to the mailing list contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] ===
Re: [JOYnet] tithe...
Hi I am John from Malaysia. As i read what manoj was sharing I realize how
important Tithes is as I was lacking in giving tithes I really admire u guys
cos u have learn and enjoy giving, just a request Please pray for me that I
will start giving tithes.
Regards,
John
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Hello,
I just want to support What Wilson wrote :
Our tithe - 10% of the income is not our money. That belongs to the Lord. We
have to share from the rest 90% with our brothers and sisters..
How can we spend from this 10% when it doesn't belong to us at all ? That is
the money to be used/given for the ministry/evangelisation work only..
The rest 90% is ours and we have to share it with the less privileged/needy.
Wishing you a joyful year of GIVING ahead,
Manoj Sunny, India.
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[JOYnet] Re:Sex Before Marriage
Dear All, Before i go on to the topic, let me introduce myself. I have been a member of this group since a friend of mine subscribed me around 4 months back . Thank you Meena for it, otherwise i wouldn't have had the oppertunity to meet all these wonderful people. I'm also a member of Atheists group which is this groups opposite. Although i don't feel at home with both the groups, since i'm a Rationalist ( Who unlike the atheist doesn't say there is no god. but says give me enough proof there is a god, then i'm ready to believe. ) i've participated a lot in the atheist group discussions b'cos there you have freedom of expression ( a fundamental right of an Indian citizen or for all democracies). There no one tells you say only those things which will promote the belief that there is no god . The point is what good is your faith if it can be wavered by what some one else says and you have to give up your fundamental rights to uphold it ! Now coming to the topic, Before i start let me tell you this is not written with any intention of hurting anyone's religious sentiments, if i do it without knowing , i'm sorry. I have heard many of you say, you have to try to understand the verses in the context of the age and purpose it was written. According to the bible even god want you to do it read Isaiah 43:16,18,19 Sex is the name you give to the act whose only purpose is procreation. It is a bodily need but unlike the other basic needs you can survive without it. You can survive without a car , You can survive without the internet ... etc But man with his desires for more gets addicted to everything and he finds it difficult to survive without these things. In the same way an act which was designed for procreation was taken to give pleasure . According to the design a women feels the urge only for a few days a month when her uterus is ready to receive the sperm. When man didn't stick to the design the ancient people had to make laws so that fightings and killings wouldn't take place in the name of sex. People then wasn't as sophisticated as us and women were more or less instruments in the hands of men .( Even today much hasn't changed) As a result all these laws and sins were created if you tell a person this is a sin, you will go to hell if you do it. Most people will think twice before doing it . Sex between 2 consenting adults before or after marriage is a personal matter up to them to decide the outcome after taking the pro's and con's into consideration ( b'cos life is very complicated now , the fling you take can affect many people and you. Usually the few moments of pleasure won't be worth the outcome ) There is no sin connected. But it would be very unwise to try unsafe sex. Regards, Dolly [demime 0.99c.8 removed an attachment of type image/gif which had a name of IMSTP.gif] === This mail is generated from JOYnet, a Jesus Youth mailing list. For more info on the list visit http://www.jesusyouth.org/joynet To unsubscribe from the list send a mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To subscribe to the list visit http://www.jesusyouth.org/joynet/join In case of any issue related to the mailing list contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] ===
[JOYnet] Please pray.
Dear Bros and Sis, May I request your prayer support for my cousin(Mom's elder sisters son) Abby Lawrence who is getting married today on Jan 31st 2003 to Pam in Malaysia. Pam is of Portugese origin. Please pray that God may bless them with a happy married life. In Christ Sanju === This mail is generated from JOYnet, a Jesus Youth mailing list. For more info on the list visit http://www.jesusyouth.org/joynet To unsubscribe from the list send a mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To subscribe to the list visit http://www.jesusyouth.org/joynet/join In case of any issue related to the mailing list contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] ===
[JOYnet] Tith
Hi everyone I totally agree to all the mails posted with regard to ' Tithing '. I have heard many experiences with regard to the same. It's easy to Tith when you are financially comfortable. I know a person who was without a job for a long time even after he finished his studies. and this guy used to get really frustrated abt it. But one thing which he used to do faithfully was to give tith from the little pocket money (30 Rs) which he used to get from his dad. ( This person is not in the renewalbut a strong believer of the Word). Today Lord has blessed him with a wonderfull job and he's earning more than a lakh of ruppes a month.(and still he give tith) The poor widow gave from the little she had . and the Lord was pleased I used to feel satisfied for the fact that I give 10% of my earnings to the Lordtill I heard someone giving 50 % of his earnings to the Lord. One thing is for sureThe more we give the more we'll be blessed...The word says ... Those who give to the poor is giving to the Lord and Lord will give it back..not in the same fold but in multiples. Another thing is that.. most of us tith our earnings(money) to the Lord..TRY if you can tith your TIME alsoout of 24 hrs that we have each day. a min of 2.4 hrs to be in the presence of the Lordthanking Himpraising Him...hearing Him wowit'll be awesome Ciao God Bless... Jose Antony Bangalore, India Jose Antony Elengical Sr. Manager- International Business Content Management Services Cyber India Online Ltd. www.ciol.com (A Cyber Media Company) Bangalore , India Office Phone - 2861511 ext 228 Hand Phone - 98454 12127 === This mail is generated from JOYnet, a Jesus Youth mailing list. For more info on the list visit http://www.jesusyouth.org/joynet To unsubscribe from the list send a mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To subscribe to the list visit http://www.jesusyouth.org/joynet/join In case of any issue related to the mailing list contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] ===
Re: [JOYnet] tithe...
Dear friends I would like to add just one point to the discussion started by Wilson and supported by Manoj. The tithe (one-tenth of your income or wealth) is given to God as a mark of reverence and honour because He is the creator and provider of all things. While giving the tithe we are acknowledging God's sovereignty and blessings. In fact, the other 90 per cent also belongs to Him and we are only stewards of His time, money, wealth and health. As stewards we are expected to handle all these judiciously and wisely. God bless you With love and prayers Joseph Lonth === This mail is generated from JOYnet, a Jesus Youth mailing list. For more info on the list visit http://www.jesusyouth.org/joynet To unsubscribe from the list send a mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To subscribe to the list visit http://www.jesusyouth.org/joynet/join In case of any issue related to the mailing list contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] ===
[JOYnet] JY's in Missouri
Hi, If they are any JY's in Missouri, please let me know. Love Prayers Jennifer Fernandes Mumbai Contentment comes not from great wealth but from few wants. === This mail is generated from JOYnet, a Jesus Youth mailing list. For more info on the list visit http://www.jesusyouth.org/joynet To unsubscribe from the list send a mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To subscribe to the list visit http://www.jesusyouth.org/joynet/join In case of any issue related to the mailing list contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] ===
[JOYnet] 10%
Dear all, It was a long waiting for me to see the discussion topic of titing come in to us. My personal experience is a lot on this. there were months when no money was available by the 15th and i had strived to pul till the next salary. and when i look back, I always find that I had 4gotn the Lord's money. The ensuing month with the same salary after giving HIS money..lot remains... This is an oppurtunity for us to be aware that there are 1000's of people smarter than us capable of doing the jobs what we are doing,But HE gave us the job.. Let us give back to HIM what belongs to HIM.. In christ Thanks Regards Jose Kurian Manager Sales Max New York Life Insurance Chennai 98410-29918 === This mail is generated from JOYnet, a Jesus Youth mailing list. For more info on the list visit http://www.jesusyouth.org/joynet To unsubscribe from the list send a mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To subscribe to the list visit http://www.jesusyouth.org/joynet/join In case of any issue related to the mailing list contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] ===
