[jQuery] Re: I just hate the way this mailing list handles grouping messages...
On 30 Okt., 21:00, Karl Swedberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For what it's worth, I have the same problem using Apple's mail.app. If anyone has a solution for that one, I'd love to hear it. --Karl And I experience something similiar with Thunderbird. Some threads are kept together, but others are kept separate. I assume that has something to do with how you post mails here. Maybe if you post via the groups web interface headers get messed up... --Klaus
[jQuery] Re: I just hate the way this mailing list handles grouping messages...
Rick Faircloth wrote on 10/30/2007 12:04 PM: Can this be done differently? This has to be a mailing list setting or something, because all my other mailing lists are able to have follow-up messages containing Re: automatically grouped with the original. I don't use Outlook, but threading works fine for me using Thunderbird on Windows XP for this list. One thought, choose one of the replies from this list and view the headers for it -- does it have the In-Reply-To header? If not, then your SMTP server (or email gateway) is stripping that header out, which is used for threading. - Bil
[jQuery] Re: I just hate the way this mailing list handles grouping messages...
Thanks for the tip, Bil... I'll check out the header! (But if that is the problem, wouldn't it affect other lists?) Rick -Original Message- From: jquery-en@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bil Corry Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2007 2:31 PM To: jquery-en@googlegroups.com Subject: [jQuery] Re: I just hate the way this mailing list handles grouping messages... Rick Faircloth wrote on 10/30/2007 12:04 PM: Can this be done differently? This has to be a mailing list setting or something, because all my other mailing lists are able to have follow-up messages containing Re: automatically grouped with the original. I don't use Outlook, but threading works fine for me using Thunderbird on Windows XP for this list. One thought, choose one of the replies from this list and view the headers for it -- does it have the In-Reply-To header? If not, then your SMTP server (or email gateway) is stripping that header out, which is used for threading. - Bil
[jQuery] Re: I just hate the way this mailing list handles grouping messages...
Rick Faircloth wrote on 10/30/2007 2:11 PM: I'll check out the header! (But if that is the problem, wouldn't it affect other lists?) Are the other lists also served via GoogleGroups? Are they sent to your SMTP server in the same way as this list? Without knowing your particulars, I was allowing for the possibility that this list was somehow handled differently than the rest of your lists (e.g. the messages are delivered by way of a gmail account that is then forwarded to your Outlook account, or e.g. all the other lists are not served via GoogleGroups, pointing a finger at something GoogleGroups is doing). - Bil
[jQuery] Re: I just hate the way this mailing list handles grouping messages...
Rick Faircloth wrote on 10/30/2007 12:04 PM: Can this be done differently? This has to be a mailing list setting or something, because all my other mailing lists are able to have follow-up messages containing Re: automatically grouped with the original. I don't use Outlook, but threading works fine for me using Thunderbird on Windows XP for this list. One thought, choose one of the replies from this list and view the headers for it -- does it have the In-Reply-To header? If not, then your SMTP server (or email gateway) is stripping that header out, which is used for threading. I've been battling this Outlook threading issue for a while. I have the In-Reply-To headers, but it makes no difference. Sorting by Conversation is the best method I've found, but the original message is still not grouped with the original message. The problem seems to be that Outlook really doesn't do proper threading. It's a bit of a PITA that you can't seem to configure Google Groups to put the RE: before the [jQuery] header. -Dan
[jQuery] Re: I just hate the way this mailing list handles grouping messages...
The way Gmail view emails as conversations really works for me. There may be 100 posts on a particular thread, but it only shows up as one line in my inbox. I have an account on a Zimbra server that's also able to view the inbox either as a list of individual emails or as conversations. I thought outlook could do that too (well, full blown outlook, not express). -Chris On 10/30/07, Rick Faircloth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks for the tip, Bil... I'll check out the header! (But if that is the problem, wouldn't it affect other lists?) Rick -Original Message- From: jquery-en@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bil Corry Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2007 2:31 PM To: jquery-en@googlegroups.com Subject: [jQuery] Re: I just hate the way this mailing list handles grouping messages... Rick Faircloth wrote on 10/30/2007 12:04 PM: Can this be done differently? This has to be a mailing list setting or something, because all my other mailing lists are able to have follow-up messages containing Re: automatically grouped with the original. I don't use Outlook, but threading works fine for me using Thunderbird on Windows XP for this list. One thought, choose one of the replies from this list and view the headers for it -- does it have the In-Reply-To header? If not, then your SMTP server (or email gateway) is stripping that header out, which is used for threading. - Bil -- http://cjordan.us
[jQuery] Re: I just hate the way this mailing list handles grouping messages...
Thanks for the info, Dan. I guess I can quit looking for that solution... Rick -Original Message- From: jquery-en@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dan G. Switzer, II Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2007 3:37 PM To: jquery-en@googlegroups.com Subject: [jQuery] Re: I just hate the way this mailing list handles grouping messages... Rick Faircloth wrote on 10/30/2007 12:04 PM: Can this be done differently? This has to be a mailing list setting or something, because all my other mailing lists are able to have follow-up messages containing Re: automatically grouped with the original. I don't use Outlook, but threading works fine for me using Thunderbird on Windows XP for this list. One thought, choose one of the replies from this list and view the headers for it -- does it have the In-Reply-To header? If not, then your SMTP server (or email gateway) is stripping that header out, which is used for threading. I've been battling this Outlook threading issue for a while. I have the In-Reply-To headers, but it makes no difference. Sorting by Conversation is the best method I've found, but the original message is still not grouped with the original message. The problem seems to be that Outlook really doesn't do proper threading. It's a bit of a PITA that you can't seem to configure Google Groups to put the RE: before the [jQuery] header. -Dan
[jQuery] Re: I just hate the way this mailing list handles grouping messages...
None of the other lists are served by googlegroups... (I don't think) Mysql, CF-Talk, SPF List... they all come through my mail server here in my studio and none have the grouping/header problem. Rick -Original Message- From: jquery-en@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bil Corry Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2007 3:36 PM To: jquery-en@googlegroups.com Subject: [jQuery] Re: I just hate the way this mailing list handles grouping messages... Rick Faircloth wrote on 10/30/2007 2:11 PM: I'll check out the header! (But if that is the problem, wouldn't it affect other lists?) Are the other lists also served via GoogleGroups? Are they sent to your SMTP server in the same way as this list? Without knowing your particulars, I was allowing for the possibility that this list was somehow handled differently than the rest of your lists (e.g. the messages are delivered by way of a gmail account that is then forwarded to your Outlook account, or e.g. all the other lists are not served via GoogleGroups, pointing a finger at something GoogleGroups is doing). - Bil
[jQuery] Re: I just hate the way this mailing list handles grouping messages...
Hi, Chris. I'm using Outlook 2007 and it does what you describe for Gmail. And my other mailing lists don't have the grouping problem that this list does. Rick From: jquery-en@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chris Jordan Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2007 3:43 PM To: jquery-en@googlegroups.com Subject: [jQuery] Re: I just hate the way this mailing list handles grouping messages... The way Gmail view emails as conversations really works for me. There may be 100 posts on a particular thread, but it only shows up as one line in my inbox. I have an account on a Zimbra server that's also able to view the inbox either as a list of individual emails or as conversations. I thought outlook could do that too (well, full blown outlook, not express). -Chris On 10/30/07, Rick Faircloth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks for the tip, Bil... I'll check out the header! (But if that is the problem, wouldn't it affect other lists?) Rick -Original Message- From: jquery-en@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bil Corry Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2007 2:31 PM To: jquery-en@googlegroups.com Subject: [jQuery] Re: I just hate the way this mailing list handles grouping messages... Rick Faircloth wrote on 10/30/2007 12:04 PM: Can this be done differently? This has to be a mailing list setting or something, because all my other mailing lists are able to have follow-up messages containing Re: automatically grouped with the original. I don't use Outlook, but threading works fine for me using Thunderbird on Windows XP for this list. One thought, choose one of the replies from this list and view the headers for it -- does it have the In-Reply-To header? If not, then your SMTP server (or email gateway) is stripping that header out, which is used for threading. - Bil -- http://cjordan.us
[jQuery] Re: I just hate the way this mailing list handles grouping messages...
For what it's worth, I have the same problem using Apple's mail.app. If anyone has a solution for that one, I'd love to hear it. --Karl _ Karl Swedberg www.englishrules.com www.learningjquery.com On Oct 30, 2007, at 3:37 PM, Dan G. Switzer, II wrote: Rick Faircloth wrote on 10/30/2007 12:04 PM: Can this be done differently? This has to be a mailing list setting or something, because all my other mailing lists are able to have follow-up messages containing Re: automatically grouped with the original. I don't use Outlook, but threading works fine for me using Thunderbird on Windows XP for this list. One thought, choose one of the replies from this list and view the headers for it -- does it have the In-Reply-To header? If not, then your SMTP server (or email gateway) is stripping that header out, which is used for threading. I've been battling this Outlook threading issue for a while. I have the In-Reply-To headers, but it makes no difference. Sorting by Conversation is the best method I've found, but the original message is still not grouped with the original message. The problem seems to be that Outlook really doesn't do proper threading. It's a bit of a PITA that you can't seem to configure Google Groups to put the RE: before the [jQuery] header. -Dan
