[jQuery] Re: Using ClueTip with Image Maps in IE

2008-07-05 Thread David Morton
I don't have this entire thread in my inbox, but it looks like the patch I
posted in the other current cluetip thread may be of use here...

On Fri, Jul 4, 2008 at 11:21 PM, David Morton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> whoops, I hijacked another thread.. but maybe it applies anyway... lol
>
>
> On Fri, Jul 4, 2008 at 11:20 PM, David Morton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> I know, I'm using the "for" attribute too.  The thing is, sometimes all
>> the valid attributes are already in use for their "proper" uses...  the
>> title attribute is used by thickbox for its caption, and I don't want it set
>> there.  (yeah, thickbox needs an option to ignore it)
>>
>> So it would be nice to have another option. :)
>>
>> I think it would be easy... add an option "autoid", and then around line
>> 249,
>>
>>  } else if (opts.local){
>> if(opts.autoid) {
>>var $localContent = $('cluetip_' + this.attr('id') + ':first');
>> } else {
>> var $localContent = $(tipAttribute + ':first');
>>}
>>
>> Or something like that... untested right now... I'm completely guessing.
>> Maybe I can look at it tomorrow.
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Jul 4, 2008 at 10:39 PM, Karl Swedberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> ok. quick suggestion for now until I look more into this:
>>>
>>> you don't need to use the rel attribute at all. you can instead set the
>>> attribute option to any attribute you want. You could use the title
>>> attribute from the area for the clueTip title (default) or use the alt
>>> attribute for it; you can use the href attribute to fetch the contents from
>>> an element with a matching id.
>>>
>>> $('area').cluetip({
>>>attribute: 'href',
>>>titleAttribute: 'alt',
>>>local: true
>>> });
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --Karl
>>> 
>>> Karl Swedberg
>>> www.englishrules.com
>>> www.learningjquery.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Jul 3, 2008, at 3:04 PM, C.Everson wrote:
>>>
>>>
 On Thu, 3 Jul 2008 14:12:56 -0400, Karl Swedberg wrote:

  Sorry for the delay in replying. I'll try to take a look at this
> tonight.
>

 Thanks Karl!

 BTW, another issue that I ran into with the Image Maps is that REL
 appears
 to NOT be a valid attribute of the  tag.  This was causing HTML
 validation to croak.  I was able to reset ClueTip to use the "href"
 to
 pass the ID of a hidden content div down the page, but that seems a bit
 of
 a kludge...


 Thinking about that (and digging into your code some more) I found that
 the
 first parameter to ClueTip can be the tip.

 That made me wonder if (for Image Maps) it might be better to be able to
 set splitTitle: true and then pass both the tip and title as the first
 parameter (with the "|" or whatever as the split element.

 Of course that would not make the map 508 friendly (since there would be
 no
 Alt or Title over the AREA), but it might be a way to make things work
 and
 still pass validation.

 If that was an option, then I guess the only other consideration would
 be
 how to solve the REL issue (and still pass validation).


 Another idea (if possible), might be to use splitTitle and get it to
 pull
 the tip title from the first part of the content pulled in for the
 tip...

 Anyway - thanks again for your great work on this and I look forward to
 seeing what you come up with.

 Chuck






>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> David Morton
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] - bulk address
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] - direct to my server
>
>
>
>
> --
> David Morton
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] - bulk address
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] - direct to my server
>



-- 
David Morton
[EMAIL PROTECTED] - bulk address
[EMAIL PROTECTED] - direct to my server


[jQuery] Re: Using ClueTip with Image Maps in IE

2008-07-05 Thread C.Everson

On Fri, 4 Jul 2008 23:39:42 -0400, Karl Swedberg wrote:

> ok. quick suggestion for now until I look more into this:
> 
> you don't need to use the rel attribute at all. you can instead set  
> the attribute option to any attribute you want. You could use the  
> title attribute from the area for the clueTip title (default) or use  
> the alt attribute for it; you can use the href attribute to fetch the  
> contents from an element with a matching id.
> 
> $('area').cluetip({
>   attribute: 'href',
>   titleAttribute: 'alt',
>   local: true
> });

Thanks Karl,

That is exactly what I have been doing right now.

I have these settings:

$('area.load-local').cluetip({
local:true, 
hideLocal: true, 
showTitle: true, 
sticky: false, 
arrows: true, 
titleAttribute: 'alt', 
attribute: 'href' });
});

Thanks for confirming my logic (in your other post reply) that for local
content using href would be good in case JS was turned off.

I figured that (in normal operation) the local content is hidden in divs
below the image map and they display as the Cluetip.  But that if JS was
disabled they would appear below the image map and the href would serve as
a anchor link to jump to it.

If you can figure out the IE thing, I think this will be a solid winner for
me!

Chuck



[jQuery] Re: Using ClueTip with Image Maps in IE

2008-07-05 Thread David Morton
whoops, I hijacked another thread.. but maybe it applies anyway... lol

On Fri, Jul 4, 2008 at 11:20 PM, David Morton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I know, I'm using the "for" attribute too.  The thing is, sometimes all the
> valid attributes are already in use for their "proper" uses...  the title
> attribute is used by thickbox for its caption, and I don't want it set
> there.  (yeah, thickbox needs an option to ignore it)
>
> So it would be nice to have another option. :)
>
> I think it would be easy... add an option "autoid", and then around line
> 249,
>
>  } else if (opts.local){
> if(opts.autoid) {
>var $localContent = $('cluetip_' + this.attr('id') + ':first');
> } else {
> var $localContent = $(tipAttribute + ':first');
>}
>
> Or something like that... untested right now... I'm completely guessing.
> Maybe I can look at it tomorrow.
>
>
> On Fri, Jul 4, 2008 at 10:39 PM, Karl Swedberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>
>>
>> ok. quick suggestion for now until I look more into this:
>>
>> you don't need to use the rel attribute at all. you can instead set the
>> attribute option to any attribute you want. You could use the title
>> attribute from the area for the clueTip title (default) or use the alt
>> attribute for it; you can use the href attribute to fetch the contents from
>> an element with a matching id.
>>
>> $('area').cluetip({
>>attribute: 'href',
>>titleAttribute: 'alt',
>>local: true
>> });
>>
>>
>>
>> --Karl
>> 
>> Karl Swedberg
>> www.englishrules.com
>> www.learningjquery.com
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Jul 3, 2008, at 3:04 PM, C.Everson wrote:
>>
>>
>>> On Thu, 3 Jul 2008 14:12:56 -0400, Karl Swedberg wrote:
>>>
>>>  Sorry for the delay in replying. I'll try to take a look at this
 tonight.

>>>
>>> Thanks Karl!
>>>
>>> BTW, another issue that I ran into with the Image Maps is that REL
>>> appears
>>> to NOT be a valid attribute of the  tag.  This was causing HTML
>>> validation to croak.  I was able to reset ClueTip to use the "href" to
>>> pass the ID of a hidden content div down the page, but that seems a bit
>>> of
>>> a kludge...
>>>
>>>
>>> Thinking about that (and digging into your code some more) I found that
>>> the
>>> first parameter to ClueTip can be the tip.
>>>
>>> That made me wonder if (for Image Maps) it might be better to be able to
>>> set splitTitle: true and then pass both the tip and title as the first
>>> parameter (with the "|" or whatever as the split element.
>>>
>>> Of course that would not make the map 508 friendly (since there would be
>>> no
>>> Alt or Title over the AREA), but it might be a way to make things work
>>> and
>>> still pass validation.
>>>
>>> If that was an option, then I guess the only other consideration would be
>>> how to solve the REL issue (and still pass validation).
>>>
>>>
>>> Another idea (if possible), might be to use splitTitle and get it to pull
>>> the tip title from the first part of the content pulled in for the tip...
>>>
>>> Anyway - thanks again for your great work on this and I look forward to
>>> seeing what you come up with.
>>>
>>> Chuck
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
> --
> David Morton
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] - bulk address
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] - direct to my server




-- 
David Morton
[EMAIL PROTECTED] - bulk address
[EMAIL PROTECTED] - direct to my server


[jQuery] Re: Using ClueTip with Image Maps in IE

2008-07-05 Thread David Morton
I know, I'm using the "for" attribute too.  The thing is, sometimes all the
valid attributes are already in use for their "proper" uses...  the title
attribute is used by thickbox for its caption, and I don't want it set
there.  (yeah, thickbox needs an option to ignore it)

So it would be nice to have another option. :)

I think it would be easy... add an option "autoid", and then around line
249,

 } else if (opts.local){
if(opts.autoid) {
   var $localContent = $('cluetip_' + this.attr('id') + ':first');
} else {
var $localContent = $(tipAttribute + ':first');
   }

Or something like that... untested right now... I'm completely guessing.
Maybe I can look at it tomorrow.

On Fri, Jul 4, 2008 at 10:39 PM, Karl Swedberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

>
> ok. quick suggestion for now until I look more into this:
>
> you don't need to use the rel attribute at all. you can instead set the
> attribute option to any attribute you want. You could use the title
> attribute from the area for the clueTip title (default) or use the alt
> attribute for it; you can use the href attribute to fetch the contents from
> an element with a matching id.
>
> $('area').cluetip({
>attribute: 'href',
>titleAttribute: 'alt',
>local: true
> });
>
>
>
> --Karl
> 
> Karl Swedberg
> www.englishrules.com
> www.learningjquery.com
>
>
>
>
> On Jul 3, 2008, at 3:04 PM, C.Everson wrote:
>
>
>> On Thu, 3 Jul 2008 14:12:56 -0400, Karl Swedberg wrote:
>>
>>  Sorry for the delay in replying. I'll try to take a look at this
>>> tonight.
>>>
>>
>> Thanks Karl!
>>
>> BTW, another issue that I ran into with the Image Maps is that REL appears
>> to NOT be a valid attribute of the  tag.  This was causing HTML
>> validation to croak.  I was able to reset ClueTip to use the "href" to
>> pass the ID of a hidden content div down the page, but that seems a bit of
>> a kludge...
>>
>>
>> Thinking about that (and digging into your code some more) I found that
>> the
>> first parameter to ClueTip can be the tip.
>>
>> That made me wonder if (for Image Maps) it might be better to be able to
>> set splitTitle: true and then pass both the tip and title as the first
>> parameter (with the "|" or whatever as the split element.
>>
>> Of course that would not make the map 508 friendly (since there would be
>> no
>> Alt or Title over the AREA), but it might be a way to make things work and
>> still pass validation.
>>
>> If that was an option, then I guess the only other consideration would be
>> how to solve the REL issue (and still pass validation).
>>
>>
>> Another idea (if possible), might be to use splitTitle and get it to pull
>> the tip title from the first part of the content pulled in for the tip...
>>
>> Anyway - thanks again for your great work on this and I look forward to
>> seeing what you come up with.
>>
>> Chuck
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>


-- 
David Morton
[EMAIL PROTECTED] - bulk address
[EMAIL PROTECTED] - direct to my server


[jQuery] Re: Using ClueTip with Image Maps in IE

2008-07-04 Thread Karl Swedberg


ok. quick suggestion for now until I look more into this:

you don't need to use the rel attribute at all. you can instead set  
the attribute option to any attribute you want. You could use the  
title attribute from the area for the clueTip title (default) or use  
the alt attribute for it; you can use the href attribute to fetch the  
contents from an element with a matching id.


$('area').cluetip({
attribute: 'href',
titleAttribute: 'alt',
local: true
});



--Karl

Karl Swedberg
www.englishrules.com
www.learningjquery.com




On Jul 3, 2008, at 3:04 PM, C.Everson wrote:



On Thu, 3 Jul 2008 14:12:56 -0400, Karl Swedberg wrote:


Sorry for the delay in replying. I'll try to take a look at this
tonight.


Thanks Karl!

BTW, another issue that I ran into with the Image Maps is that REL  
appears

to NOT be a valid attribute of the  tag.  This was causing HTML
validation to croak.  I was able to reset ClueTip to use the  
"href" to
pass the ID of a hidden content div down the page, but that seems a  
bit of

a kludge...


Thinking about that (and digging into your code some more) I found  
that the

first parameter to ClueTip can be the tip.

That made me wonder if (for Image Maps) it might be better to be  
able to

set splitTitle: true and then pass both the tip and title as the first
parameter (with the "|" or whatever as the split element.

Of course that would not make the map 508 friendly (since there  
would be no
Alt or Title over the AREA), but it might be a way to make things  
work and

still pass validation.

If that was an option, then I guess the only other consideration  
would be

how to solve the REL issue (and still pass validation).


Another idea (if possible), might be to use splitTitle and get it to  
pull
the tip title from the first part of the content pulled in for the  
tip...


Anyway - thanks again for your great work on this and I look forward  
to

seeing what you come up with.

Chuck









[jQuery] Re: Using ClueTip with Image Maps in IE

2008-07-03 Thread C.Everson

On Thu, 3 Jul 2008 14:12:56 -0400, Karl Swedberg wrote:

> Sorry for the delay in replying. I'll try to take a look at this  
> tonight.

Thanks Karl!

BTW, another issue that I ran into with the Image Maps is that REL appears
to NOT be a valid attribute of the  tag.  This was causing HTML
validation to croak.  I was able to reset ClueTip to use the "href" to
pass the ID of a hidden content div down the page, but that seems a bit of
a kludge...


Thinking about that (and digging into your code some more) I found that the
first parameter to ClueTip can be the tip.

That made me wonder if (for Image Maps) it might be better to be able to
set splitTitle: true and then pass both the tip and title as the first
parameter (with the "|" or whatever as the split element.

Of course that would not make the map 508 friendly (since there would be no
Alt or Title over the AREA), but it might be a way to make things work and
still pass validation.

If that was an option, then I guess the only other consideration would be
how to solve the REL issue (and still pass validation).


Another idea (if possible), might be to use splitTitle and get it to pull
the tip title from the first part of the content pulled in for the tip...

Anyway - thanks again for your great work on this and I look forward to
seeing what you come up with.

Chuck







[jQuery] Re: Using ClueTip with Image Maps in IE

2008-07-03 Thread Karl Swedberg


Hi there,

Sorry for the delay in replying. I'll try to take a look at this  
tonight.


--Karl

Karl Swedberg
www.englishrules.com
www.learningjquery.com




On Jul 3, 2008, at 5:27 AM, C.Everson wrote:



Hello,

I've been working with ClueTip (GREAT plug-in!) and image maps.

After digging around on Google for some time I came across the link  
to this

example:

http://test.learningjquery.com/clue/chic-test.html

(note that there are only two images that display the Cluetip and that
neither has a title.  You will see what appears to be a native tip,  
but

that is coming from the Alt tag on this page).


Based on that I was able to get it working on the Image Map, but I  
do have

one problem.

The native title attribute displays in IE (it does not in FF). If I  
remove
it from the link, then that gets rid of the native tip, but then I  
can't
use the Title attribute to pass the title for the tooltip to ClueTip  
and


I'd really like to be able to use that feature.

Does anyone have an idea on either how to get rid of the native title
display in IE, or how to pass a title to ClueTip in some other  
fashion?


I'm really close to getting this working like I want it, but hate to  
give

up the title on the tips.

Thanks for any and all assistance and ideas!

Chuck