Re: Cookie with Jrun and Netscape

[Arie Fishler]

Here is the solution:
Since no one found out...we had to do it ourselves. All of you Jrun users will
sooner or later face this bug (if you need cookies). After digging here and
there we found out that JRun has a bug with the setAge property. That's why
people faced problems with deleting cookies (setAge(0) to delete the cookie is
using the setAge which does not work in Jrun).
You just have to use the addCookie method  of the HttpServletResponse  with the

entire cookie string. Create the cookie with
Cookie cookie = new Cookie (name, cookieValue.toString());
The cookieValue has all the cookies you need with the whole cookie fields
(expires, path, domain etc.) separated by a comma (;). Then just call
response.addCookie(cookie) and voila...

It would have been just more normal for Jrun to fix the bug, but whatever...

Regards.


Arie Fishler wrote:

> Hi !
>
> I am using JRun Pro 2.3.1 Build 145 . I am facing a strange phenomenon
> while setting cookies. When I try to set the cookie for a longer age
> then a session (positive number for setAge) I don't succeed while
> working with a Netscape browser. The cookie is deleted when the browser
> is closed. When I turn on the option of warning before setting a cookie,
> I get the warning but with no expiry time. Trying to snif the HTTP data
> which passes I see that the expire time is all mixed up. The problem
> occurs ONLY in Netscape. Did anyone face that problem? What's the
> suggested workaround?
>
> Thanks.
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Cookie with Jrun and Netscape

[Arie Fishler]

Hi !

I am using JRun Pro 2.3.1 Build 145 . I am facing a strange phenomenon
while setting cookies. When I try to set the cookie for a longer age
then a session (positive number for setAge) I don't succeed while
working with a Netscape browser. The cookie is deleted when the browser
is closed. When I turn on the option of warning before setting a cookie,
I get the warning but with no expiry time. Trying to snif the HTTP data
which passes I see that the expire time is all mixed up. The problem
occurs ONLY in Netscape. Did anyone face that problem? What's the
suggested workaround?

Thanks.

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Re: Need opinions: JDBC capable database for Linux

[Arie Fishler]

Try SOLID, http://www.solidtech.com. Small, easy, JDBC drivers, runs on many
platforms.

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Any opinions on which database (Oracle, DB2, Postgre, Informix, Sybase,
etc) would be best for doing some JSP+database  expirementation on a Red
Hat 6 Intel Linux box?  I'm just looking for something to play with...
my biggest priority is that it not be an absolute nightmare to install
and get working with JSP.   Also, if anyone knows, which of these
databases support JDBC on Linux.

Thanks
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Using getServletContext().getRequestDispatcher(URL).forward(req, resp)

[Arie Fishler]

Hello All !

We have been using JSP for quite some time now and are facing a problem
using the above syntax in order to move from a JSP page to another. Our
design involves a main servlet which navigates between the different JSP
pages by using the forward() method:

getServletContext().getRequestDispatcher(stateMachine.getCurrent().getForm()
).forward(req, resp);


The URL is a string which includes the relative URL name f.x
'/servlet/an.common.Example.jsp'.

Generally all works and there is no problem whatsoever in the general
functionality. We are facing a specific problem when using MS IEXPLORER to
browse our JSP pages (With Netscape all is ok all the time). The JSP page
received from the forward has some strange behavior. For example some jpg
images are not loaded. An IFRAME tag in the page cannot reach the URL which
appears in its src parameter. As I said, all these problems do not appear
when using Netscape. Also, when we change the forward to
resp.sendRedirect(URL) everything returns to be normal even in IEXPLORER.

Did anyone face such a problem? Does anyone has a clue?

Thanks,

Arie Fishler
AlmondNet Ltd.

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Re: Package loading

[Arie Fishler]

In the 
server, JRun from my experience, there is a parameter setting for the classpath. 
This is in the JRunAdmin under the General tab and under the Java tab there. 
Just add the jat with the full path into the classpath and it will be able to 
load any class from there. You can change the classpath directly in the JRun 
properties file without the JRUn admin. It is easier. Just go to 
JRUN_HOME\jsm-default\properties and edit the jsm.properties file. change the 
variable java.classpath
 
Good 
Luck

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Server Pages specification and reference 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Sylvain 
RocheSent: Thursday, June 10, 1999 3:16 PMTo: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Package 
loading
I'm not very awared of using external 
classes in JSP. It might be a trivial question, but how could I load 
packaged classes in my pages ? The only way I found until now is to had my 
package classes directly in the server's jar archive (/lib/jrun.jar in my 
case). And then I'm able to import whatever I need, which is exactly what I 
want. 
 
But I'm sure there might be another way. 
Maybe do I have to change some parameters of my server (JRun as I said 
before), but I'd prefer a solution directly included in the JSP source, if 
possible.
 
BTW, I'd like to know more about beans 
loading in JSP, because I'm not very familiar with them. Is there a place 
where I  could find some exemples ?
 
Thanks
Sylvain

Re: java

[Arie Fishler]

When upgrading to a higher JDK version, like from jdk1.1.7 to JDK 1.2, Sun
might have changed some of the API included in the JDKs. The changes are
usually renaming method, changing parameters of existing methods or even
canceling the method completely. Each change method which does not exist
anymore in its older version is said to be deprecated. The documentation of
each JDK states which methods were deprecated. When you compile with
the -deprecation option, you can get an exact message about the deprecated
method you used. You should then refer to the new documentation and see how
you should use this method from now on.

Hope it helps.

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reference [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Johan Johansson
Sent:   Thursday, June 10, 1999 1:33 PM
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Subject:java

Can anyone tell me what this means?

Note: Mnsearch_HLR.java uses a deprecated API.  Recompile with
"-deprecation" for details.
1 warning


It is printed when I compile certain java-files.

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Re: New Product

[Arie Fishler]

I am not sure about the complete functionality of Visual InterDev, but a
strong HTML editor with the ability to integrate JSP directly in the pages
is a tool we need.

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Subject:New Product

 Somebody are intersted in create a Tool like MS Visual InterDev than work
with JSP?




W3Dev


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Re: using standard classes

[Arie Fishler]

You should import the class in a scriplet

<% import java.sql.ResultSet %>

or reference the Result set with the full package name in the location where
you define it.

Hope it helps.

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Esguevillas
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i'm trying to use a SQL class (ResultSet) within my jsp page with the jsp
reference implementation but the compiler can't find it
what am i doing wrong?
Thanks in advance

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FW: [Fwd: Re: FW: File Upload]

[Arie Fishler]

The author of O'reilly's "Java Servlet Programming", Jason Hunter, developed
the examples shown in the book to a complete package that is availible on
the net. A package dated 18-September-1998 is attached (cos.zip). O'reilly
permit the usage of the package only if each programmer in your company will
own THE book
Anyway attached is another package from hp that also handles
file-apploads. I
havn't checked it yet.
Michael

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> reference [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Myriam Pinon
> Sent: Thursday, June 03, 1999 11:50 AM
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> Subject:  File Upload
>
> Does anyone know about classes or beans useable with JSP that would manage
> an HTML form request multipart-encoded ? This is mainly used in file
> submission forms using the  tag.
> Regards,
> MP
>
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 hplb-utils-0_1.tar.gz
 cos.zip

Re: Jrun and JSP 1.0

[Arie Fishler]

They did not...yet

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Subject:Jrun and JSP 1.0

Can anyone confirm if JRun has implemented JSP1.0 Specification yet?

Will

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Re: Where is the sorce code translated

[Arie Fishler]

Assuming you are using JRUN 2.3:

\jrun\jsm-default\services\jseweb\servlets\jsp

\jrun\jsm-default\services\jse\servlets\jsp


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Where is the source code .java which is translated from JSP source code.
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Re: MATCH=null bug in JRun?

[Arie Fishler]

You can just use JAVA:

  Ext. 
 

<% if (ac.getFaxPhoneExtension() == null) { %>
Ext. 
<% } %>

It's as easy as that...



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reference [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Dave Ferguson
Sent:   Thursday, April 29, 1999 9:03 PM
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Subject:Re: MATCH=null bug in JRun?

I've seen the same thing.  I'm using an ugly work-around where I actually do
the test on the string "null".  Of course, this only works on String objects
and I have to initialize to the string "null" in my beans instead of using
the "null" keyword.

A bigger problem to us has been that JRun does not support nested
 or  tags.  The result is always a nasty
NullPointerException.  Have you run into that?

Dave F.

Christopher Cobb wrote:

> I am using JRun Pro 2.3 build 141.
>
> I am using an  tag in an attempt to exclude the display of a
property which may be null.
>
> My JSP looks like this:
>
> 
>  Ext. 
> 
>
> which I beleive to be correct JSP.
>
> The code generated by JRun looks like this:
>
> String jsp_include_val0 = null;
> String res0 = JSP.beanVal(ac[jsp_array_idx0],"faxPhoneExtension", "null");
> if(!(res0 == null))
> {
> out.println("");
> out.print("  Ext. ");
> ...
> }
>
> This code looks relatively OK, except that I believe that the final
parameter to the JSP.beanVal() method (in this case "null") represents a
default value to return.  So in effect, if my property is null,
JSP.beanVal() returns "null".
>
> The output I get when the property is null is:
>
> Ext. null
>
> This looks like a bug to me.  Any anticipated fix?
>
> cc

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Re: MATCH=null bug in JRun?

[Arie Fishler]

Some more java:

<% if (test condition1) { %>
...HTML, JSP, etc.
<% if (test condition2) { %>
more HTML, JSP etc.
<% }  %>
<% } %>



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reference [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Christopher Cobb
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Subject:Re: MATCH=null bug in JRun?

 << File: ccobb.vcf >>  Dave Ferguson wrote:
> A bigger problem to us has been that JRun does not support nested
 or  tags.  The result is always a nasty
NullPointerException.  Have you run into that?

I don't even get that far.  Nested includes give a compilation errors!

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Re: ELSE tag

[Arie Fishler]

Way to go Daniel !

When you want the job done use JAVA. Why use awkward methods instead of the
real thing?

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reference [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Kirkdorffer,
Daniel
Sent:   Wednesday, April 28, 1999 6:03 PM
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Subject:Re: ELSE tag

I have been following this thread with amusement.  I've been waiting for
people to finally point out this is why we need scriptlets.  The same people
saying that scriptlets are a no no, seem to have discovered that the tags
they want are missing.  How does creating a whole bunch of new "HTML" tags
make things any easier for people?  When will you have created enough tags?
Is it the "%" sign you don't like?  Face it, scriptlets do the job.  Thank
you Anil and Brian for pointing this out.

Dan

> --
> From: Brian Burridge[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Reply To: Brian Burridge
> Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 1999 5:53 AM
> To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject:  Re: ELSE tag
>
> <% if (condition) { %>
> output blah blah blah -- condition is true
> <% } else { %>
> you failed
> <% } %>
>
> The above syntax you had in your email is exactly what we do here. Of
> course, as
> most of you know, we don't use the markup tags we strictly do Java code
> inside <%
> ... %>. I find it interesting that as most of you try to deal with using
> markup
> tags, you inevitably run into commands/tags that are supplied. There is a
> reason
> why languages like Perl, C, and Java have so many commands, and that's
> because
> inevitably you are going to need to use them. As someone mentioned, what
> about
> the Case command? What about for next loops? Eventually you will simply
> redevelop
> the language, but it won't be a common language like Java it will be
> something
> original and new to most developers. One big advantage of JSP is that you
> can
> hire an experienced Java developer, regardless if he has ever heard of
> JSP.
>
> Brian N. Burridge
> Web Analyst
> Cox Target Media
> http://www.burridge.net/jsp
>
> Anil K. Vijendran wrote:
>
> > YMMV but I'm not too excited about turning HTML into a language with
> > programming constructs etc. I'd rather see support for defining your own
> > tags and hope that people would design app/domain specific tags whose
> > implementations are in a good programming language like Java (with
> > hopefully a standard tag library for very few general purpose tags: I
> > wouldn't go farther than IF) instead of using things like SWITCH etc to
> > accomplish similar things.
> >
> > What next -- a CLASS tag? :-) I'm tempted to implement something like
> > this: :-)
> >
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >
> > Seriously though, I'm curious why something like
> >
> > <% if (condition) { %>
> > output blah blah blah -- condition is true
> > <% } else { %>
> > you failed
> > <% } %>
> >
> > wouldnt work just great?
> >
> > -Anil
> >  JSP team
> >
> > Walter Jerusalinsky wrote:
> > >
> > > What about this? :
> > >
> > > 
> > >
> > > 
> > > .
> > > 
> > >
> > > 
> > > .
> > > 
> > > ..
> > > 
> > > .
> > > 
> > >
> > > 
> > >
> > > But please let it for JSP 2.0 (We want 1.0 now!)
> > >
> > > Walter
> > >
> > > > -Original Message-
> > > > From: A mailing list about Java Server Pages specification and
> reference
> > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Rod McChesney
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 1999 10:47 PM
> > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > Subject: Re: ELSE tag
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > To retain some vestige of HTML or XML syntax, I believe this would
> > > > have to look like
> > > >
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > >
> > > > and so on. Otherwise the tags don't nest meaningfully. This kind of
> > > > thing is easy to hack into a parser but SGML/HTML/XML tools won't
> > > > necessarily understand it. Unless I'm just missing something...
> > > >
> > > > Rod McChesney, Korobra
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Stuart Hargreaves wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > At 03:38 PM 4/27/99 -0700, you wrote:
> > > > > >vis a vis the discussion regarding the '.' vs. the ':', why even
> > > > > >call these things "includeif"??
> > > > > >
> > > > > >I vote for a more programmatic syntax, like, say, "if/else" ala
> > > > > >most common programming languages such as c, java and c++.
> > > > >
> > > > > I vote "aye" to that. I'd also like to see a convention similar to
> > > > > , or  or something to that effect.
> > > > >
> > > > > For example...
> > > > > 
> > > > > foo
> > > > > 
> > > > > bar
> > > > > 
> > > > >
> > > > > >Of course what is the analog for the  tag?  Does
> > > > > > make any sense?  Or does it just
> > > > > >give you a headache like it does me?
> > > > >
> > > > > With the existance of , the need for  would go
> away.
> > > > >
> > > > > For example

Re: Include tag

[Arie Fishler]

We are using JRUN's (proprietary for now) include system (check the
documentation). Easy to do. Instead of the includes you mentioned use:

<%@ vinclude=/an/Common/Header.inc %>

The include contains a full virtual path. You can use include instead of
vinclude for relative path. Check the JRUN documentation. There is a small
paragraph about it.


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reference [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Kenneth Borinsky
Sent:   Wednesday, April 28, 1999 6:36 PM
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Subject:Re: Include tag

Hello,
we are trying to figure out how to deal with JSP implementation of
.  We are reviewing JRUN, Sun Servlet Runner, and
several other engines.  As far as we understand, JRun includes the
generated contents of include file if it was another .jsp

Our application requires ability to have a separate include file that
contains several scriplets with Java functions (as wrappers for
complicated JavaBeans) and variables.  We would then need to include it
into other .jsp files.  So far, our attempts did not produce positive
results.

In our opinion, this is a MUST HAVE feature. Any comments, suggestions?

Ken Borinsky


>-Original Message-
>From:  Magnus Stenman [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent:  Wednesday, April 28, 1999 10:30 AM
>To:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject:   Re: ELSE tag
>
>On the  issue, seems like we've done a bad decision when including
>the rendered content (of whichever type it may be) into the output and not
>the source (the JSP spec is a moot point on this issue - how does the
>reference implementation act?). What are your opinions? People from JRun
>replied with propriety JRun syntax (<%@ vinclude ... %>) but didn't seem to
>make any effort to push it as something to include in the JSP spec which I
>think is sad. Having  include generated content (from
>whatever parser is tied to that resource) is also a valuable feature, but
>then again  handles that part - just a bit awkward
>syntax. Ideas/suggestions?
>
>/Magnus Stenman
>Orion WebServer - http://orion.evermind.net
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Re: JRun-prob

[Arie Fishler]

Check the java code that was generated from the jsp file. You might have put
errors in the jsp which concluded in the creation of an errored html page
(which is the output of the servlet which is created from your jsp file).
The java code is located in \jrun\jsm-default\jseweb\servlets\jsp or under
\jrun\jsm-default\jse\servlets\jsp. (The exact directory depends on the fact
that you are using a jrun built in web server - first, or an external web
server - second).

This is a place to start.

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reference [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Andreas K&he;llberg
Sent:   Wednesday, April 28, 1999 4:56 PM
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Subject:JRun-prob

Hi, I'm a newbe at JSP and I've been assigned to check if this method is
something for us. So, I've downloaded the JRun-server to experiment with
servlets, JSP and so on.

My problem is that when I've installed JRun and is trying to browse a *.jsp
file I only gets a blank html-page back in explorer (5.0) and an
errormessage (document contains no data) from navigator (4.0).

I've re-installed JRun but the same error acour. All configs are the
predefined in the install-procedure.

I'm running winNT 4.0 and IIS4...

I'm sure it's a basic problem, but I can't figure it out, so, please...

regards.../Andreas

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Re: ELSE tag

[Arie Fishler]

Brian is right !

The markup tags are very limited in functionality. Take the LOOP for
example. What if you want an action to take place only for certain
iterations. What if you want to pass parameters to method and not use just
the getXXX which the LOOP goes through?

We use Java to do that, like Brian mentioned: In scriplets. The scriplets
allow to embed Java in the HTML in order to take advantage of all its
capabilities.

For example:

<%
for(int I = 0; bean.hasItem(I); I++) {
%>
HTML tags..with bean properties, methods etc  which depends on I.
<%
}
%>

I can have much more control over my loops than I have with the LOOP tag.

-Original Message-
From:   A mailing list about Java Server Pages specification and
reference [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Brian Burridge
Sent:   Wednesday, April 28, 1999 2:53 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:Re: ELSE tag

<% if (condition) { %>
output blah blah blah -- condition is true
<% } else { %>
you failed
<% } %>

The above syntax you had in your email is exactly what we do here. Of
course, as
most of you know, we don't use the markup tags we strictly do Java code
inside <%
... %>. I find it interesting that as most of you try to deal with using
markup
tags, you inevitably run into commands/tags that are supplied. There is a
reason
why languages like Perl, C, and Java have so many commands, and that's
because
inevitably you are going to need to use them. As someone mentioned, what
about
the Case command? What about for next loops? Eventually you will simply
redevelop
the language, but it won't be a common language like Java it will be
something
original and new to most developers. One big advantage of JSP is that you
can
hire an experienced Java developer, regardless if he has ever heard of JSP.

Brian N. Burridge
Web Analyst
Cox Target Media
http://www.burridge.net/jsp

Anil K. Vijendran wrote:

> YMMV but I'm not too excited about turning HTML into a language with
> programming constructs etc. I'd rather see support for defining your own
> tags and hope that people would design app/domain specific tags whose
> implementations are in a good programming language like Java (with
> hopefully a standard tag library for very few general purpose tags: I
> wouldn't go farther than IF) instead of using things like SWITCH etc to
> accomplish similar things.
>
> What next -- a CLASS tag? :-) I'm tempted to implement something like
> this: :-)
>
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>
> Seriously though, I'm curious why something like
>
> <% if (condition) { %>
> output blah blah blah -- condition is true
> <% } else { %>
> you failed
> <% } %>
>
> wouldnt work just great?
>
> -Anil
>  JSP team
>
> Walter Jerusalinsky wrote:
> >
> > What about this? :
> >
> > 
> >
> > 
> > .
> > 
> >
> > 
> > .
> > 
> > ..
> > 
> > .
> > 
> >
> > 
> >
> > But please let it for JSP 2.0 (We want 1.0 now!)
> >
> > Walter
> >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: A mailing list about Java Server Pages specification and
reference
> > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Rod McChesney
> > > Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 1999 10:47 PM
> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: Re: ELSE tag
> > >
> > >
> > > To retain some vestige of HTML or XML syntax, I believe this would
> > > have to look like
> > >
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > >
> > > and so on. Otherwise the tags don't nest meaningfully. This kind of
> > > thing is easy to hack into a parser but SGML/HTML/XML tools won't
> > > necessarily understand it. Unless I'm just missing something...
> > >
> > > Rod McChesney, Korobra
> > >
> > >
> > > Stuart Hargreaves wrote:
> > > >
> > > > At 03:38 PM 4/27/99 -0700, you wrote:
> > > > >vis a vis the discussion regarding the '.' vs. the ':', why even
> > > > >call these things "includeif"??
> > > > >
> > > > >I vote for a more programmatic syntax, like, say, "if/else" ala
> > > > >most common programming languages such as c, java and c++.
> > > >
> > > > I vote "aye" to that. I'd also like to see a convention similar to
> > > > , or  or something to that effect.
> > > >
> > > > For example...
> > > > 
> > > > foo
> > > > 
> > > > bar
> > > > 
> > > >
> > > > >Of course what is the analog for the  tag?  Does
> > > > > make any sense?  Or does it just
> > > > >give you a headache like it does me?
> > > >
> > > > With the existance of , the need for  would go
away.
> > > >
> > > > For example:
> > > > 
> > > > do nothing
> > > > 
> > > > foo
> > > > 
> > > >
> > > > And as Terry mentioned, it would make more sense to use 

> > > > . Of course, this would require a closeing tag, perhaps 
?
> > > >
> > > > My .02
> > > > Stuart G. Hargreaves
> > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > (W) 415.659.6314
> > > >
> > > >
> > > ==
> > > =
> > > > To unsubs

Re: Any large scale implementations ?

[Arie Fishler]

There is no problem running it under any jdk either ! It just a matter of
configuration

I DO HATE IT WHEN IT REPLIES TO THE SENDER 

-Original Message-
From:   A mailing list about Java Server Pages specification and
reference [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Nic Wise
Sent:   Tuesday, April 27, 1999 9:48 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:Re: Any large scale implementations ?

I too had problems getting it to run, BUT this is 'cos I was trying to
run it under JDK1.1, which the site says you can do, but I found no way
to actually get going. So I switched to 1.2, and all is well.

Other than that, its been rock solid. I'm more than 'fairly' impressed
:)

Nic.

BTW, dont ya hate it how, when you reply, it goes to the sender, not to
the
list!? - Sorry Walter.

Walter Jerusalinsky wrote:
>
> Are You sure?
> Are You writing JSP 0.92 code?
> I am running JRun 2.3 in both linux/apache and NT/IIS 4.0 and NOTHING of
> this happens to me.- I got JRun running the first time in about 30
minutes.-
> Walter
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: A mailing list about Java Server Pages specification and reference
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Darren Ehlers
> > Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 1999 11:37 AM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: Any large scale implementations ?
> >
> >
> > I, so far, have not been overly impressed with JRun 2.3.  I have
> > attributed
> > this somewhat to the fact that the JSP spec isn't 1.0 yet.  I could get
no
> > assistance in setting it up, took me four days to finally get it
working.
> > There are some serious bugs in the software right now.  The worst one is
> > anytime a JSP page has to regenerate, you will get a
> > ClassCastException for
> > each page that regenerates and have bounce JRun to clear it.  I also get
> > random "Unable to obtain indexed properties errors" when using
> > , they
> > seem to have disabled all but the #include server directives
> > (can't use #if,
> > #echo, etc.) and I can't get an answer about execution order of
directives
> > (i.e. which comes first, <% statements,  or  and when
does
> > the javascript get executed.  There also appear to be some
> > variable scoping
> > bugs in that within the same statement I can reference some variables
with
> >  and some I can't.
> >
> > Also, unless you pony up the $595, it seems you get no support from
> > LiveSoftware.
> >
> > I have been able to hack workarounds for most of these issues and
> > my project
> > is too far along to back out now, so I will be sticking with JRun for
the
> > short term.  In the long run though, I will look at something like
> > StoryServer from Vignette which I have worked with at other clients and
is
> > awesome.
> >
> > Hope this helps,
> > Darren
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: Chandra Chittoor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Monday, April 26, 1999 4:03 PM
> > Subject: Any large scale implementations ?
> >
> >
> > > Hello everyone
> > > We are considering Servlets/JSPs for our web front end to an existing
> > > application.
> > > Web server is currently IIS.
> > > We already have a bunch of CORBA objects that they will connect to.
> > >
> > > - Is there anyone out there who has implemented this on a large scale
or
> > > has really tested it out with a really really large number of
> > > transactions ?
> > > - How stable is JRun ?
> > >
> > > - Is there a good architecture recommendation somewhere for this
> > > scenario ?
> > >
> > > It is crucial that I get this information as soon as possible to
> > > know/prove the stability of these relatively new products.
> > >
> > > Please direct me to any relevant information if possible as soon as
> > > possible.
> > >
> > > thanks to all
> > > chandra
> > >
> > >
> > ==
> > =
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Re: Including other JSP files.

[Arie Fishler]

We are implementing the same thing with JRUN. Easy to do. Instead of the
includes you mentioned use:

<%@ vinclude=/an/Common/Header.inc %>

The include contains a full virtual path. You can use include instead of
vinclude for relative path. Check the JRUN documentation. There is a small
paragraph about it.

-Original Message-
From:   A mailing list about Java Server Pages specification and
reference [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Kenneth Borinsky
Sent:   Tuesday, April 27, 1999 8:04 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:Including other JSP files.

Hello,

I am trying to write several separate include files that contain scriplet
functions and variables.  Running JSP page that has these included files
produces errors since my code within including jsp relies on these
functions.  I am using JRun Pro 2.3.

My include looks something like this:


Am I doing it wrong?  Is it possible to include other jsp files that have
java scriplet code(functions, variables)?  Also, is it possible to inlude a
file that has  @import directive in it?

Any help would be appreciated.

Ken Borinsky
Developer, Internet Division
CompInfo, Inc.

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Re: Any large scale implementations ?

[Arie Fishler]

I am with Walter here. We have no problems what so ever with Jrun. After
sorting out the initial problems we are doing great things with it. The
possibility to write dynamic pages using Java is great. We haven't tested
our application yet but it will be a large scale one.

-Original Message-
From:   A mailing list about Java Server Pages specification and
reference [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Walter
Jerusalinsky
Sent:   Tuesday, April 27, 1999 6:13 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:Re: Any large scale implementations ?

Are You sure?
Are You writing JSP 0.92 code?
I am running JRun 2.3 in both linux/apache and NT/IIS 4.0 and NOTHING of
this happens to me.- I got JRun running the first time in about 30 minutes.-
Walter

> -Original Message-
> From: A mailing list about Java Server Pages specification and reference
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Darren Ehlers
> Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 1999 11:37 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Any large scale implementations ?
>
>
> I, so far, have not been overly impressed with JRun 2.3.  I have
> attributed
> this somewhat to the fact that the JSP spec isn't 1.0 yet.  I could get no
> assistance in setting it up, took me four days to finally get it working.
> There are some serious bugs in the software right now.  The worst one is
> anytime a JSP page has to regenerate, you will get a
> ClassCastException for
> each page that regenerates and have bounce JRun to clear it.  I also get
> random "Unable to obtain indexed properties errors" when using
> , they
> seem to have disabled all but the #include server directives
> (can't use #if,
> #echo, etc.) and I can't get an answer about execution order of directives
> (i.e. which comes first, <% statements,  or  and when does
> the javascript get executed.  There also appear to be some
> variable scoping
> bugs in that within the same statement I can reference some variables with
>  and some I can't.
>
> Also, unless you pony up the $595, it seems you get no support from
> LiveSoftware.
>
> I have been able to hack workarounds for most of these issues and
> my project
> is too far along to back out now, so I will be sticking with JRun for the
> short term.  In the long run though, I will look at something like
> StoryServer from Vignette which I have worked with at other clients and is
> awesome.
>
> Hope this helps,
> Darren
>
> - Original Message -
> From: Chandra Chittoor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Monday, April 26, 1999 4:03 PM
> Subject: Any large scale implementations ?
>
>
> > Hello everyone
> > We are considering Servlets/JSPs for our web front end to an existing
> > application.
> > Web server is currently IIS.
> > We already have a bunch of CORBA objects that they will connect to.
> >
> > - Is there anyone out there who has implemented this on a large scale or
> > has really tested it out with a really really large number of
> > transactions ?
> > - How stable is JRun ?
> >
> > - Is there a good architecture recommendation somewhere for this
> > scenario ?
> >
> > It is crucial that I get this information as soon as possible to
> > know/prove the stability of these relatively new products.
> >
> > Please direct me to any relevant information if possible as soon as
> > possible.
> >
> > thanks to all
> > chandra
> >
> >
> ==
> =
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Re: cookie problem

[Arie Fishler]

As we know it here.after hours of trials we have reached the conclusion
that you cannot delete a cookie using this method. This is probably a java
implementation bug !

I'll be happy to hear otherwise...

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From:   A mailing list about Java Server Pages specification and
reference [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Chris Fesler
Sent:   Monday, April 19, 1999 7:55 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:cookie problem

I'm having a problem with cookies. Specifically, I'm able to successfully
create them and send them out to the browser, but unable to delete them. The
java tutorial
(http://www.javasoft.com/docs/books/tutorial/servlets/client-state/cookies.h
tml) indicates that to delete cookies, you just do the following:

cookie.setMaxAge(0)

I've tried this and it seems to have no effect.

Anybody out there have any luck deleting or modifying cookies with jsp/jsdk?

Thanks,

chris

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Re: Pb with JRun and Java Bean

[Arie Fishler]

Hi Antoine !

This is the way JRUN works and you cannot configure it. When you change the
JSP, the page is recompiled and the servlet will be loaded again the next
time you call the page. However beans are loaded once during JRUN's life and
there is no way to unload classes once they were loaded.
You will have to keep on restarting JRUN whenever your classes are
changed...

-Original Message-
From:   A mailing list about Java Server Pages specification and
reference [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Antoine Galland
Sent:   Monday, April 19, 1999 12:26 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:Pb with JRun and Java Bean

hello,

I use some Java Bean with JSP page.
If I change the code in the JSP page, there are no problem and JRUN
re-compile my page.
But when I change the code in the myBean.java I must reboot the JRUN
sever to see the upgrade on my browser.

How can I configure JRun to not to be forced to reboot JRun
or is there an other solution ?

CONFIG :
OS : NT
Web Server : Apache 1.3.4
JSP : 0.92
JRun : 2.3

++
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REEF  - France
52 rue de Dunkerque PARIS
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Web  : http://www.reef.com
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Server Side Include

[Arie Fishler]

Hi !

Is there a way to perform server side include when using Jrun 2.3. The
spec's SSI does not seem to work and JRun's  include tag <%@ include= %>
performs a relative include obly. This means that it appends the include
path to the current path and not to any absolute location. It makes it quite
difficult to use include templates for headers, footers without the ability
to include them from a common location.

Thanks.

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Re: Where can newbie find info to get started with JSP

[Arie Fishler]

-Original Message-
From:   A mailing list about Java Server Pages specification and
reference [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of @Home
Sent:   Wednesday, December 02, 1998 5:59 AM
To:
Subject:Where can newbie find info to get started with JSP

I'm new to JSP but not to programming or web development (C++, Cold Fusion,
Visual Basic; environment = NT Workstation).  Can someone please tell me
where I can information about what I need to install (no assumptions
please).
http://www.livesoftware.com-  For Jrun servlet engine which has support
for JSP 0.92.



I have tried searching the Sun website for "JSP" without success.

The JSP spec can also be found at Sun't site under 'Java Server Pages'


I have heard that there is a server from Sun that I can install on NT so I
do not need IIS.  What server is this.  I also noted that some people seem
to be having problems getting JSP 0.92 to work with other software.

Sun has a web server which supports JSP - Java Web Server (look for that at
Sun's java site).


I am hoping there is a site with a recipe-like approach to identifying and
installing the necessary software and running some initial examples.

The JSP 0.92 spec from Sun has examples and documentation which is enough to
get started. At livesoftware's site there is the Jrun magazine which might
have additional information

Thanks in advance for any assistance.

Bill

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Re: Cookie communication

[Arie Fishler]

Technically, You can definitely see the cookies if they were produced from a
servlet/jsp on the same domain. Just read carefully the Cookie parameters
definition so you can set them correctly. As Tuyen Tran mentioned, you have
to pay attention to the domain and path.

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From:   A mailing list about Java Server Pages specification and
reference [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Wine Vaughn
Sent:   Thursday, April 08, 1999 8:20 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:Cookie communication

Here's my problem.  My JSP cannot see cookies created by my colleague's
servlet, and vice versa.

We are using JRun on NT with IIS.

Although the servlet and JSP are on the same server, they are accessed
differently.  The servlet is accessed by
http://ourserver/servlet/colleagueServlet
 , and my JSP is accessed by
http://ourserver/mydirectory/myJSP  .
I'm guessing this is a security problem, and we cannot see each other
cookies because the sites are different.  If this is the problem, how can we
make the sites the same?

Is this problem a basic servlet/JSP issue, or is it a JRun administration
issue?

Does anyone have a suggestion on solving this problem?  (Besides using JSPs
exclusively, which is not an option at this point)

Thanks for your help,

Vaughn

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Re: Loops on multiple properties

[Arie Fishler]

Hi Werner

If I understand it correctly what you suggest will perform a NESTED loop
which means that if I have j values for property x and k values for property
y then the LOOP will produce j*k lines and I don't want it to behave like
that. The properties have the same number of elements t and I want the LOOP
to produce only t lines.

Class Bean {
Vector numbers;
Vector strings;

Integer getNumbers(int index ) {
return numbers.elementAt(indesx);
}

String getStrings(int index) {
return strings.elementAt(indesx);
}
}

I want my dynamic page to display lines which contain a number and matching
string on each line.

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From:   A mailing list about Java Server Pages specification and
reference [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Werner Hennrich
Sent:   Thursday, April 08, 1999 7:42 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:AW: Loops on multiple properties

Hi Arie,

why don't you want to use two nested loops on the same bean?
since they use different properties they wouldn't interfere with each other
and create those properties' cross product (creating all inner values for
every
outer iteration) - I asume that is what you seek.






x =  / y = 




providing a specific language construct within JSP for exactly the same
result would just
would just increase the JSP-Handler's complexity, risk for bugs, effort to
learn

bye, Werner

> -
> Re: Loops on multiple properties
>
> Is there a way to include more than a single property in a LOOP tag? From
> the spec it seems that the LOOP allows using a single
> property/bean and all
> its sub properties, but not several properties. I want to do
> something like
>  PROPERTY=myBean:property2 PROPERTYELEMENT=y>
>
> and then use x and y in the LOOP body. Is there a way to do it?

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Re: UptoDate Info on JSP Needed

[Arie Fishler]

JSP is alive and kicking

You can see it just by subscribing to this news group updates...they keep
pouring in...

Although JSP is young it is quite effective and does a decent job in
integrating Java and HTML. In order to use it properly you need to have the
JSP spec and to download one of the commercial servlet engines which support
JSP.

We are using Jrun 2.3 and although we have been using it for a month or so
only, it is working without any problems.

You can get Jrun from http://www.livesoftware.com

Good luck


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Hello,

I have downloaded the bundle available from the javasoft site, but this
seems a bit flaky!  Is JSP something that has died? Are there any decent
examples available for use with servlets or EJB's? (The examples I have seen
look to be calling bog-standard Java classes that are alledgedly 'beans' or
'servlets'!

Also, there is no docs on where you would place the JSP, how to compile up
etc...

Are there any companies who are using JSP yet?

Thanks - any help would be appreciated.

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Loops on multiple properties

[Arie Fishler]

Is there a way to include more than a single property in a LOOP tag? From
the spec it seems that the LOOP allows using a single property/bean and all
its sub properties, but not several properties. I want to do something like


and then use x and y in the LOOP body. Is there a way to do it?

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