Re: Macromedia's Dreamweaver UltraDev

2001-02-22 Thread Vinay Talwar

u can download it from macromedia.com, by creating a account. u get a trial
version over there for 30 days if I am wright.

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Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2001 9:33 PM
Subject: Re: Macromedia's Dreamweaver UltraDev


 Kawa is an excellent IDE that I have been writing my Java programs in for
2
 years.

   -Jeff Casimir

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  Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2001 7:05 AM
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  Subject: Re: Macromedia's Dreamweaver UltraDev
 
 
  I am using Kawa from Allaire. It's good, but I don't think it
  work when you
  try create package.
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Anna Spngberg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2001 5:53 PM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: SV: Macromedia's Dreamweaver UltraDev
 
 
  Does anyone use Kawa from allair, or JPadPro??
  Just heard of them, are they any good??
 
  -Ursprungligt meddelande-
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reference
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Fr Gutman, Larry
  Skickat: den 14 februari 2001 22:46
  Till: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  mne: Re: Macromedia's Dreamweaver UltraDev
 
 
  It is good for a designer.  I find that for developers that JRun Studio
  works very well.  When developing I very rarely need to go into a
design
  view, because most of the things that I program are dynamic.  So
  a good html
  editor that supports jsp is a good way to go.  We have built customer
help
  and tag wizards for our taglibs in JRun.  I guess it all depends
  on your job
  function.
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Andy Oei [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2001 3:19 PM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Macromedia's Dreamweaver UltraDev
 
 
  Hi:
 
  I am in the process of picking the right tool to do JSP development.
 
  Has anyone had any experience with Dreamweaver UltraDev? Is this
  a good tool
  to use? Any pro and cons on this product?
 
  Thank you for the input.
 
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Re: Macromedia's Dreamweaver UltraDev

2001-02-22 Thread Nicholas Larsson

UltraDev is good for everything except JSP, it generates
tons of code that is not needed and I find it very
difficult to follow the generated code.
The LiveContents feature is very handy, though, it lets you
se the layout of the .jsp containing data retrieved from
databases aso.

//Nico
 u can download it from macromedia.com, by creating a
account. u get a trial
 version over there for 30 days if I am wright.

 Vinay Talwar
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 From: "j3" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2001 9:33 PM
 Subject: Re: Macromedia's Dreamweaver UltraDev


  Kawa is an excellent IDE that I have been writing my
Java programs in for
 2
  years.
 
-Jeff Casimir
 
   -Original Message-
   From: A mailing list about Java Server Pages
specification and
 reference
   [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Quang
Tran
   Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2001 7:05 AM
   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Subject: Re: Macromedia's Dreamweaver UltraDev
  
  
   I am using Kawa from Allaire. It's good, but I don't
think it
   work when you
   try create package.
  
   -Original Message-
   From: Anna Spngberg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
   Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2001 5:53 PM
   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Subject: SV: Macromedia's Dreamweaver UltraDev
  
  
   Does anyone use Kawa from allair, or JPadPro??
   Just heard of them, are they any good??
  
   -Ursprungligt meddelande-
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specification and
 reference
   [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Fr Gutman, Larry
   Skickat: den 14 februari 2001 22:46
   Till: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   mne: Re: Macromedia's Dreamweaver UltraDev
  
  
   It is good for a designer.  I find that for
developers that JRun Studio
   works very well.  When developing I very rarely need
to go into a
 design
   view, because most of the things that I program are
dynamic.  So
   a good html
   editor that supports jsp is a good way to go.  We
have built customer
 help
   and tag wizards for our taglibs in JRun.  I guess it
all depends
   on your job
   function.
  
   -Original Message-
   From: Andy Oei [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
   Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2001 3:19 PM
   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Subject: Macromedia's Dreamweaver UltraDev
  
  
   Hi:
  
   I am in the process of picking the right tool to do
JSP development.
  
   Has anyone had any experience with Dreamweaver
UltraDev? Is this
   a good tool
   to use? Any pro and cons on this product?
  
   Thank you for the input.
  
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Re: Macromedia's Dreamweaver UltraDev

2001-02-22 Thread M. Simms

Actually, the Live Data Settings feature is buggywhen used with JSP. We
contacted their tech support and the issue is still pending.

Also, are you aware you can rewrite the macros used to generate the JSP code
in Ultradev ?
Thus, tailoring the code to your style.

The current code-gen is OK for prototyping sitesbut should be
rewritten for deployement.
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 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Nicholas Larsson
 Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2001 6:01 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: Macromedia's Dreamweaver UltraDev


 UltraDev is good for everything except JSP, it generates
 tons of code that is not needed and I find it very
 difficult to follow the generated code.
 The LiveContents feature is very handy, though, it lets you
 se the layout of the .jsp containing data retrieved from
 databases aso.

 //Nico
  u can download it from macromedia.com, by creating a
 account. u get a trial
  version over there for 30 days if I am wright.
 
  Vinay Talwar
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  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 
 
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  where do i download Macromedia's Dreamweaver UltraDev,I
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  From: "j3" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2001 9:33 PM
  Subject: Re: Macromedia's Dreamweaver UltraDev
 
 
   Kawa is an excellent IDE that I have been writing my
 Java programs in for
  2
   years.
  
 -Jeff Casimir
  
-Original Message-
From: A mailing list about Java Server Pages
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  reference
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Quang
 Tran
Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2001 7:05 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Macromedia's Dreamweaver UltraDev
   
   
I am using Kawa from Allaire. It's good, but I don't
 think it
work when you
try create package.
   
-Original Message-
From: Anna Spångberg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2001 5:53 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: SV: Macromedia's Dreamweaver UltraDev
   
   
Does anyone use Kawa from allair, or JPadPro??
Just heard of them, are they any good??
   
-Ursprungligt meddelande-
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 specification and
  reference
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]För Gutman, Larry
Skickat: den 14 februari 2001 22:46
Till: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Ämne: Re: Macromedia's Dreamweaver UltraDev
   
   
It is good for a designer.  I find that for
 developers that JRun Studio
works very well.  When developing I very rarely need
 to go into a
  design
view, because most of the things that I program are
 dynamic.  So
a good html
editor that supports jsp is a good way to go.  We
 have built customer
  help
and tag wizards for our taglibs in JRun.  I guess it
 all depends
on your job
function.
   
-Original Message-
From: Andy Oei [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2001 3:19 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
    Subject: Macromedia's Dreamweaver UltraDev
   
   
Hi:
   
I am in the process of picking the right tool to do
 JSP development.
   
Has anyone had any experience with Dreamweaver
 UltraDev? Is this
a good tool
to use? Any pro and cons on this product?
   
Thank you for the input.
   
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Re: Macromedia's Dreamweaver UltraDev

2001-02-21 Thread j3

Kawa is an excellent IDE that I have been writing my Java programs in for 2
years.

  -Jeff Casimir

 -Original Message-
 From: A mailing list about Java Server Pages specification and reference
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Quang Tran
 Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2001 7:05 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: Macromedia's Dreamweaver UltraDev


 I am using Kawa from Allaire. It's good, but I don't think it
 work when you
 try create package.

 -Original Message-
 From: Anna Spngberg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2001 5:53 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: SV: Macromedia's Dreamweaver UltraDev


 Does anyone use Kawa from allair, or JPadPro??
 Just heard of them, are they any good??

 -Ursprungligt meddelande-
 Frn: A mailing list about Java Server Pages specification and reference
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Fr Gutman, Larry
 Skickat: den 14 februari 2001 22:46
 Till: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 mne: Re: Macromedia's Dreamweaver UltraDev


 It is good for a designer.  I find that for developers that JRun Studio
 works very well.  When developing I very rarely need to go into a design
 view, because most of the things that I program are dynamic.  So
 a good html
 editor that supports jsp is a good way to go.  We have built customer help
 and tag wizards for our taglibs in JRun.  I guess it all depends
 on your job
 function.

 -Original Message-
 From: Andy Oei [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2001 3:19 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Macromedia's Dreamweaver UltraDev


 Hi:

 I am in the process of picking the right tool to do JSP development.

 Has anyone had any experience with Dreamweaver UltraDev? Is this
 a good tool
 to use? Any pro and cons on this product?

 Thank you for the input.

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Re: Macromedia's Dreamweaver UltraDev

2001-02-21 Thread caoyan

where do i download Macromedia's Dreamweaver UltraDev,I don't want to buy it!
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From: "j3" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2001 9:33 PM
Subject: Re: Macromedia's Dreamweaver UltraDev


 Kawa is an excellent IDE that I have been writing my Java programs in for 2
 years.

   -Jeff Casimir

  -Original Message-
  From: A mailing list about Java Server Pages specification and reference
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Quang Tran
  Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2001 7:05 AM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Re: Macromedia's Dreamweaver UltraDev
 
 
  I am using Kawa from Allaire. It's good, but I don't think it
  work when you
  try create package.
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Anna Spngberg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2001 5:53 PM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: SV: Macromedia's Dreamweaver UltraDev
 
 
  Does anyone use Kawa from allair, or JPadPro??
  Just heard of them, are they any good??
 
  -Ursprungligt meddelande-
  Frn: A mailing list about Java Server Pages specification and reference
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Fr Gutman, Larry
  Skickat: den 14 februari 2001 22:46
  Till: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  mne: Re: Macromedia's Dreamweaver UltraDev
 
 
  It is good for a designer.  I find that for developers that JRun Studio
  works very well.  When developing I very rarely need to go into a design
  view, because most of the things that I program are dynamic.  So
  a good html
  editor that supports jsp is a good way to go.  We have built customer help
  and tag wizards for our taglibs in JRun.  I guess it all depends
  on your job
  function.
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Andy Oei [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2001 3:19 PM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Macromedia's Dreamweaver UltraDev
 
 
  Hi:
 
  I am in the process of picking the right tool to do JSP development.
 
  Has anyone had any experience with Dreamweaver UltraDev? Is this
  a good tool
  to use? Any pro and cons on this product?
 
  Thank you for the input.
 
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Re: Macromedia's Dreamweaver UltraDev

2001-02-16 Thread M. Simms

Warning: Ultradev 4 is a good tool for prototyping and rapid site
development.

It generates some poor code...for instance: getObject is used instead of
getString, getInt, etc.
for database resultset data retrieval.

Tech support is abysmal.2-4 day wait time can be expected
especially when it is free for your 1st 90 days ;)
You'll receive a rapid response once you've paid $300 for an annual support
agreement.

On the Plus side, I've modified their code after the fact and it does not
ruin the changes unless you re-insert their macro code again.

I have not tried to debug the code yet..I am not sure that is support.

Best bet for robust JSP development: JBuilder 4 Enterprise.

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 I like the combination of Homesite 4.5.2 and Tomcat.
 I found that if you are dealing with a lot of HTML
 in your jsp code Forte/Netbeans gets tiresome. I looked
 at UltraDev but I didn't see anything that made it a
 must have.

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 Subject: Macromedia's Dreamweaver UltraDev


 Hi:

 I am in the process of picking the right tool to do JSP development.

 Has anyone had any experience with Dreamweaver UltraDev? Is this
 a good tool
 to use? Any pro and cons on this product?

 Thank you for the input.

 Andy Oei

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Macromedia's Dreamweaver UltraDev

2001-02-14 Thread Andy Oei

Hi:

I am in the process of picking the right tool to do JSP development.

Has anyone had any experience with Dreamweaver UltraDev? Is this a good tool
to use? Any pro and cons on this product?

Thank you for the input.

Andy Oei

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Re: Macromedia's Dreamweaver UltraDev

2001-02-14 Thread Gutman, Larry

It is good for a designer.  I find that for developers that JRun Studio
works very well.  When developing I very rarely need to go into a design
view, because most of the things that I program are dynamic.  So a good html
editor that supports jsp is a good way to go.  We have built customer help
and tag wizards for our taglibs in JRun.  I guess it all depends on your job
function.

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Has anyone had any experience with Dreamweaver UltraDev? Is this a good tool
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Thank you for the input.

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Re: Macromedia's Dreamweaver UltraDev

2001-02-14 Thread Deschenes, Buddy

I like the combination of Homesite 4.5.2 and Tomcat.
I found that if you are dealing with a lot of HTML
in your jsp code Forte/Netbeans gets tiresome. I looked
at UltraDev but I didn't see anything that made it a
must have.

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Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2001 4:19 PM
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Subject: Macromedia's Dreamweaver UltraDev


Hi:

I am in the process of picking the right tool to do JSP development.

Has anyone had any experience with Dreamweaver UltraDev? Is this a good tool
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Thank you for the input.

Andy Oei

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SV: Macromedia's Dreamweaver UltraDev

2001-02-14 Thread Anna Spångberg

Does anyone use Kawa from allair, or JPadPro??
Just heard of them, are they any good??

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mne: Re: Macromedia's Dreamweaver UltraDev


It is good for a designer.  I find that for developers that JRun Studio
works very well.  When developing I very rarely need to go into a design
view, because most of the things that I program are dynamic.  So a good html
editor that supports jsp is a good way to go.  We have built customer help
and tag wizards for our taglibs in JRun.  I guess it all depends on your job
function.

-Original Message-
From: Andy Oei [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2001 3:19 PM
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Subject: Macromedia's Dreamweaver UltraDev


Hi:

I am in the process of picking the right tool to do JSP development.

Has anyone had any experience with Dreamweaver UltraDev? Is this a good tool
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Andy Oei

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Re: Macromedia's Dreamweaver UltraDev

2001-02-14 Thread Raymond

I'm using UltraDev for both design and simple database queries. It's easy to
use if you have experience with Dreamweaver. But if you are not doing design
stuff, maybe there are better choices.

Best regards,

Raymond Xu(Ray)



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Subject: Macromedia's Dreamweaver UltraDev


Hi:

I am in the process of picking the right tool to do JSP development.

Has anyone had any experience with Dreamweaver UltraDev? Is this a good tool
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Thank you for the input.

Andy Oei

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