[JPP-Devel] GDAL reads and writes JUMP JML now

[Rahkonen Jukka (Tike)]

Hi,



Since yesterday GDAL can read and write the JUMP JML format 
http://gdal.org/drv_jml.html



What does it mean?



*Data from any vector format that is supported by GDAL 
http://www.gdal.org/ogr_formats.html can be converted from and into JUMP JML 
format without a need to use shapefiles as interim format. That removes some 
problems which come from the limitations of the shapefile format:

o   Column names can be longer than 10 characters

o   Values in string fields can be longer than 255 characters

o   Long datatime data type is supported

o   If source data contains mixed geometry types there is no need to split data 
into separate shapefiles by the geometry type



I believe that GDAL JML driver will make is easier to use OpenJUMP in workflows 
where data comes from various sources and several programs are used in the 
processing chain.



For testing the driver a GDAL from current trunk (revision r27882 or higher) is 
needed. Windows users can get ready made binaries from 
http://gisinternals.com/sdk/ by selecting some of the "development" versions. 
The GDAL tool to use is ogr2ogr http://gdal.org/ogr2ogr.html. As an example, 
for converting data from MapInfo tab into JML format the command to use is



ogr2ogr -f JML output.jml input.tab



Feedback is welcome. I already noticed that at least on Windows with Finnish 
locale OpenJUMP claims to store XML in UTF-8 which is not true.



Driver is written by Even Rouault and donated to OpenJUMP community by me.



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Re: [JPP-Devel] GDAL reads and writes JUMP JML now

[edgar . soldin]

On 20.10.2014 12:22, Rahkonen Jukka (Tike) wrote:
> Hi,
> 
>  
> 
> Since yesterday GDAL can read and write the JUMP JML format 
> http://gdal.org/drv_jml.html
> 

well done
 
> 
SNIP
>  
> 
> I believe that GDAL JML driver will make is easier to use OpenJUMP in 
> workflows where data comes from various sources and several programs are used 
> in the processing chain.
> 

agreed
 
> 
> For testing the driver a GDAL from current trunk (revision r27882 or higher) 
> is needed. Windows users can get ready made binaries from 
> http://gisinternals.com/sdk/ by selecting some of the “development” versions. 
> The GDAL tool to use is ogr2ogr http://gdal.org/ogr2ogr.html. As an example, 
> for converting data from MapInfo tab into JML format the command to use is
> 

i will update PLUS snapshot as soon as possible
  
> 
> ogr2ogr –f JML output.jml input.tab
> 
>  
> 
> Feedback is welcome. I already noticed that at least on Windows with Finnish 
> locale OpenJUMP claims to store XML in UTF-8 which is not true.
> 

how do you mean? is this a bug?

> 
> Driver is written by Even Rouault and donated to OpenJUMP community by me.
> 

thank You :).. and you (Even Rouault)!

do you have a list of GDAL vector formats? we should probably add a 
FileReader/Writer for those formats converting via ogr2ogr behind the scenes as 
soon as possible.

..ede

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Re: [JPP-Devel] GDAL reads and writes JUMP JML now

[Giuseppe Aruta]

>do you have a list of GDAL vector formats? we should probably add a
FileReader/Writer for those
>formats converting via ogr2ogr behind the scenes as soon as possible.

http://www.gdal.org/ogr_formats.html

2014-10-20 12:30 GMT+02:00 :

> On 20.10.2014 12:22, Rahkonen Jukka (Tike) wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> >
> >
> > Since yesterday GDAL can read and write the JUMP JML format
> http://gdal.org/drv_jml.html
> >
>
> well done
>
> >
> SNIP
> >
> >
> > I believe that GDAL JML driver will make is easier to use OpenJUMP in
> workflows where data comes from various sources and several programs are
> used in the processing chain.
> >
>
> agreed
>
> >
> > For testing the driver a GDAL from current trunk (revision r27882 or
> higher) is needed. Windows users can get ready made binaries from
> http://gisinternals.com/sdk/ by selecting some of the “development”
> versions. The GDAL tool to use is ogr2ogr http://gdal.org/ogr2ogr.html.
> As an example, for converting data from MapInfo tab into JML format the
> command to use is
> >
>
> i will update PLUS snapshot as soon as possible
>
> >
> > ogr2ogr –f JML output.jml input.tab
> >
> >
> >
> > Feedback is welcome. I already noticed that at least on Windows with
> Finnish locale OpenJUMP claims to store XML in UTF-8 which is not true.
> >
>
> how do you mean? is this a bug?
>
> >
> > Driver is written by Even Rouault and donated to OpenJUMP community by
> me.
> >
>
> thank You :).. and you (Even Rouault)!
>
> do you have a list of GDAL vector formats? we should probably add a
> FileReader/Writer for those formats converting via ogr2ogr behind the
> scenes as soon as possible.
>
> ..ede
>
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Re: [JPP-Devel] GDAL reads and writes JUMP JML now

[edgar . soldin]

yeah, right ..could somebody please strip the list below of non file based 
formats ;)

..ede

On 20.10.2014 13:35, Giuseppe Aruta wrote:
>>do you have a list of GDAL vector formats? we should probably add a 
>>FileReader/Writer for those
>>formats converting via ogr2ogr behind the scenes as soon as possible.
> 
> http://www.gdal.org/ogr_formats.html
> 
> 2014-10-20 12:30 GMT+02:00 mailto:edgar.sol...@web.de>>:
> 
> On 20.10.2014 12:22, Rahkonen Jukka (Tike) wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> >
> >
> > Since yesterday GDAL can read and write the JUMP JML format 
> http://gdal.org/drv_jml.html
> >
> 
> well done
> 
> >
> SNIP
> >
> >
> > I believe that GDAL JML driver will make is easier to use OpenJUMP in 
> workflows where data comes from various sources and several programs are used 
> in the processing chain.
> >
> 
> agreed
> 
> >
> > For testing the driver a GDAL from current trunk (revision r27882 or 
> higher) is needed. Windows users can get ready made binaries from 
> http://gisinternals.com/sdk/ by selecting some of the “development” versions. 
> The GDAL tool to use is ogr2ogr http://gdal.org/ogr2ogr.html. As an example, 
> for converting data from MapInfo tab into JML format the command to use is
> >
> 
> i will update PLUS snapshot as soon as possible
> 
> >
> > ogr2ogr –f JML output.jml input.tab
> >
> >
> >
> > Feedback is welcome. I already noticed that at least on Windows with 
> Finnish locale OpenJUMP claims to store XML in UTF-8 which is not true.
> >
> 
> how do you mean? is this a bug?
> 
> >
> > Driver is written by Even Rouault and donated to OpenJUMP community by 
> me.
> >
> 
> thank You :).. and you (Even Rouault)!
> 
> do you have a list of GDAL vector formats? we should probably add a 
> FileReader/Writer for those formats converting via ogr2ogr behind the scenes 
> as soon as possible.
> 
> ..ede
> 

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Re: [JPP-Devel] GDAL reads and writes JUMP JML now

[Rahkonen Jukka (Tike)]

Hi Ede,

I believe that UTF-8 behaves well now. At least I can see similar figures in OJ 
r4071 and in Spatialite-gui where I have converted the .jml file with GDAL.

Could your change has some effect in other places where XML is written and read 
like saving and opening OJ project files and SLD style files?

-Jukka-


edgar.soldin wrote:

> Jukka,
> 
> can you check after OJ writes proper UTF-8 now if the gdal reader preserves 
> the
> characters properly? preferably with some asian characters. as copy and paste
> does not work (at least for me) in the attribute window i'll attach you a file
> (created via adding a second japanese keyboard layout and enabling kanna ;)
> you may need to install support for asian languages to see the file name
> properly but should be able to rename it, in case don't want to.
> 
> the characters you used 'äöåüÄÖÅÜ' seem to be in the windows charset, so they
> are not really a good test.
> 
> ..ede

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Re: [JPP-Devel] GDAL reads and writes JUMP JML now

[edgar . soldin]

On 20.10.2014 21:18, Rahkonen Jukka (Tike) wrote:
> Hi Ede,
> 
> I believe that UTF-8 behaves well now. At least I can see similar figures in 
> OJ r4071 and in Spatialite-gui where I have converted the .jml file with GDAL.

it's not about the figures but the attribute values.. are they consistent?

> Could your change has some effect in other places where XML is written and 
> read like saving and opening OJ project files and SLD style files?

possibly.. i changed GMLReader to honor encoding, that should be backwards 
compatible.. GMLWriter is another story, i forced it to always write UTF-8 
which might be an issue if a XML-template is used that enforces a different 
encoding.

GMLWriter is used to write JML, FMEGML and of course GML files. do we really 
need to honor template give encoding values there?

..ede
 
> -Jukka-
> 
> 
> edgar.soldin wrote:
> 
>> Jukka,
>>
>> can you check after OJ writes proper UTF-8 now if the gdal reader preserves 
>> the
>> characters properly? preferably with some asian characters. as copy and paste
>> does not work (at least for me) in the attribute window i'll attach you a 
>> file
>> (created via adding a second japanese keyboard layout and enabling kanna ;)
>> you may need to install support for asian languages to see the file name
>> properly but should be able to rename it, in case don't want to.
>>
>> the characters you used 'äöåüÄÖÅÜ' seem to be in the windows charset, so they
>> are not really a good test.
>>
>> ..ede
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Re: [JPP-Devel] GDAL reads and writes JUMP JML now

[Rahkonen Jukka (Tike)]

edgar.soldin wrote:
> 
> On 20.10.2014 21:18, Rahkonen Jukka (Tike) wrote:
> > Hi Ede,
> >
> > I believe that UTF-8 behaves well now. At least I can see similar figures 
> > in OJ
> r4071 and in Spatialite-gui where I have converted the .jml file with GDAL.
> 
> it's not about the figures but the attribute values.. are they consistent?

Those characters look like abstract figures for me but all the linework of the 
characters in the attribute values does look the same in OJ and Spatialite-gui 
as well as in Notepad++ when I open the .jml file with it.

-Jukka-
> 
> > Could your change has some effect in other places where XML is written and
> read like saving and opening OJ project files and SLD style files?
> 
> possibly.. i changed GMLReader to honor encoding, that should be backwards
> compatible.. GMLWriter is another story, i forced it to always write UTF-8 
> which
> might be an issue if a XML-template is used that enforces a different 
> encoding.
> 
> GMLWriter is used to write JML, FMEGML and of course GML files. do we really
> need to honor template give encoding values there?
> 
> ..ede
> 
> > -Jukka-
> >
> >
> > edgar.soldin wrote:
> >
> >> Jukka,
> >>
> >> can you check after OJ writes proper UTF-8 now if the gdal reader
> >> preserves the characters properly? preferably with some asian
> >> characters. as copy and paste does not work (at least for me) in the
> >> attribute window i'll attach you a file (created via adding a second
> >> japanese keyboard layout and enabling kanna ;) you may need to
> >> install support for asian languages to see the file name properly but 
> >> should be
> able to rename it, in case don't want to.
> >>
> >> the characters you used 'äöåüÄÖÅÜ' seem to be in the windows charset,
> >> so they are not really a good test.
> >>
> >> ..ede
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Re: [JPP-Devel] GDAL reads and writes JUMP JML now

[edgar . soldin]

On 20.10.2014 21:49, Rahkonen Jukka (Tike) wrote:
> 
> edgar.soldin wrote:
>>
>> On 20.10.2014 21:18, Rahkonen Jukka (Tike) wrote:
>>> Hi Ede,
>>>
>>> I believe that UTF-8 behaves well now. At least I can see similar figures 
>>> in OJ
>> r4071 and in Spatialite-gui where I have converted the .jml file with GDAL.
>>
>> it's not about the figures but the attribute values.. are they consistent?
> 
> Those characters look like abstract figures for me but all the linework of 
> the characters in the attribute values does look the same in OJ and 
> Spatialite-gui as well as in Notepad++ when I open the .jml file with it.
> 

well, me too :)).. i do not speak/read any of these.. just wanted to make sure 
you compared the attributes - visually.. ede

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Re: [JPP-Devel] GDAL reads and writes JUMP JML now

[Michael Michaud]

Jukka, Ede,

Thanks Jukka, for offering OpenJUMP community a new tool to
translate jml file to/from other formats.
Thanks Ede for the quick fix on GML reader/writer.
About your previous question, I think that honouring encoding
while reading GML and always writing UTF-8 is good enough for
now on.

Michaël
> On 20.10.2014 21:49, Rahkonen Jukka (Tike) wrote:
>> edgar.soldin wrote:
>>> On 20.10.2014 21:18, Rahkonen Jukka (Tike) wrote:
 Hi Ede,

 I believe that UTF-8 behaves well now. At least I can see similar figures 
 in OJ
>>> r4071 and in Spatialite-gui where I have converted the .jml file with GDAL.
>>>
>>> it's not about the figures but the attribute values.. are they consistent?
>> Those characters look like abstract figures for me but all the linework of 
>> the characters in the attribute values does look the same in OJ and 
>> Spatialite-gui as well as in Notepad++ when I open the .jml file with it.
>>
> well, me too :)).. i do not speak/read any of these.. just wanted to make 
> sure you compared the attributes - visually.. ede
>
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Re: [JPP-Devel] GDAL reads and writes JUMP JML now

[Rahkonen Jukka (Tike)]

Do you have several layers in your XML? What do you see with plain "ogrinfo 
your-file.xml"?

-Jukka-

Lähettäjä: Uwe Dalluege<mailto:uwe.dallu...@hcu-hamburg.de>
Lähetetty: ‎21.‎10.‎2014 12:42
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Aihe: Re: [JPP-Devel] GDAL reads and writes JUMP JML now

Hi Jukka,

thank you for your work!

I receive an error when I try to convert an NAS xml-file to jml.

D:\Arbeit\ALKIS_LoD1\Test>ogr2ogr -f "JML" xxx.jml ALKIS_FHH_0008.xml
Layer AP_PTO not found, and CreateLayer not supported by driver.
ERROR 1: Terminating translation prematurely after failed
translation of layer AP_PTO (use -skipfailures to skip errors)

Regards

Uwe

Am 20.10.2014 um 12:22 schrieb Rahkonen Jukka (Tike):
> Hi,
>
> Since yesterday GDAL can read and write the JUMP JML format
> http://gdal.org/drv_jml.html
>
> What does it mean?
>
> ·Data from any vector format that is supported by GDAL
> http://www.gdal.org/ogr_formats.html can be converted from and into JUMP
> JML format without a need to use shapefiles as interim format. That
> removes some problems which come from the limitations of the shapefile
> format:
>
> oColumn names can be longer than 10 characters
>
> oValues in string fields can be longer than 255 characters
>
> oLong datatime data type is supported
>
> oIf source data contains mixed geometry types there is no need to split
> data into separate shapefiles by the geometry type
>
> I believe that GDAL JML driver will make is easier to use OpenJUMP in
> workflows where data comes from various sources and several programs are
> used in the processing chain.
>
> For testing the driver a GDAL from current trunk (revision r27882 or
> higher) is needed. Windows users can get ready made binaries from
> http://gisinternals.com/sdk/ by selecting some of the “development”
> versions. The GDAL tool to use is ogr2ogr http://gdal.org/ogr2ogr.html.
> As an example, for converting data from MapInfo tab into JML format the
> command to use is
>
> ogr2ogr –f JML output.jml input.tab
>
> Feedback is welcome. I already noticed that at least on Windows with
> Finnish locale OpenJUMP claims to store XML in UTF-8 which is not true.
>
> Driver is written by Even Rouault and donated to OpenJUMP community by me.
>
> -Jukka Rahkonen-
>
>
>
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Re: [JPP-Devel] GDAL reads and writes JUMP JML now

[Uwe Dalluege]

D:\Arbeit\ALKIS_LoD1\Test>ogrinfo ALKIS_FHH_0008.xml
Had to open data source read-only.
INFO: Open of `ALKIS_FHH_0008.xml'
   using driver `NAS' successful.
1: AP_PPO (Multi Point)
2: AP_PTO (Point)
3: AX_Baublock (Polygon)
4: AX_BauRaumOderBodenordnungsrecht (Polygon)
5: AX_BesondereFlurstuecksgrenze (Line String)
6: AX_Bodenschaetzung (Polygon)
7: AX_GeoreferenzierteGebaeudeadresse (Point)
8: AX_LagebezeichnungMitHausnummer (None)
9: AX_Flurstueck (Polygon)
10: AX_LagebezeichnungOhneHausnummer (None)
11: AX_Gebaeude (Polygon)
12: AX_LagebezeichnungMitPseudonummer (None)
13: AX_GrablochDerBodenschaetzung (Point)
14: AX_Landwirtschaft (Polygon)
15: AX_Strassenverkehrsanlage (Multi Line String)
16: AX_Vegetationsmerkmal (Point)
17: AX_Wald (Polygon)
18: ALKIS_beziehungen (None)

D:\Arbeit\ALKIS_LoD1\Test>pause
Drücken Sie eine beliebige Taste . . .

Regards

Uwe

Am 21.10.2014 um 12:32 schrieb Rahkonen Jukka (Tike):
> Do you have several layers in your XML? What do you see with plain
> "ogrinfo your-file.xml"?
>
> -Jukka-
> 
> Lähettäjä: Uwe Dalluege <mailto:uwe.dallu...@hcu-hamburg.de>
> Lähetetty: ‎21.‎10.‎2014 12:42
> Vastaanottaja: OpenJump develop and use
> <mailto:jump-pilot-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>; Rahkonen Jukka (Tike)
> <mailto:jukka.rahko...@mmmtike.fi>
> Aihe: Re: [JPP-Devel] GDAL reads and writes JUMP JML now
>
> Hi Jukka,
>
> thank you for your work!
>
> I receive an error when I try to convert an NAS xml-file to jml.
>
> D:\Arbeit\ALKIS_LoD1\Test>ogr2ogr -f "JML" xxx.jml ALKIS_FHH_0008.xml
> Layer AP_PTO not found, and CreateLayer not supported by driver.
> ERROR 1: Terminating translation prematurely after failed
> translation of layer AP_PTO (use -skipfailures to skip errors)
>
> Regards
>
> Uwe
>
> Am 20.10.2014 um 12:22 schrieb Rahkonen Jukka (Tike):
>> Hi,
>>
>> Since yesterday GDAL can read and write the JUMP JML format
>>http://gdal.org/drv_jml.html
>>
>> What does it mean?
>>
>> ·Data from any vector format that is supported by GDAL
>>http://www.gdal.org/ogr_formats.html can be converted from and into JUMP
>> JML format without a need to use shapefiles as interim format. That
>> removes some problems which come from the limitations of the shapefile
>> format:
>>
>> oColumn names can be longer than 10 characters
>>
>> oValues in string fields can be longer than 255 characters
>>
>> oLong datatime data type is supported
>>
>> oIf source data contains mixed geometry types there is no need to split
>> data into separate shapefiles by the geometry type
>>
>> I believe that GDAL JML driver will make is easier to use OpenJUMP in
>> workflows where data comes from various sources and several programs are
>> used in the processing chain.
>>
>> For testing the driver a GDAL from current trunk (revision r27882 or
>> higher) is needed. Windows users can get ready made binaries from
>>http://gisinternals.com/sdk/ by selecting some of the “development”
>> versions. The GDAL tool to use is ogr2ogrhttp://gdal.org/ogr2ogr.html.
>> As an example, for converting data from MapInfo tab into JML format the
>> command to use is
>>
>> ogr2ogr –f JML output.jml input.tab
>>
>> Feedback is welcome. I already noticed that at least on Windows with
>> Finnish locale OpenJUMP claims to store XML in UTF-8 which is not true.
>>
>> Driver is written by Even Rouault and donated to OpenJUMP community by me.
>>
>> -Jukka Rahkonen-
>>
>>
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Re: [JPP-Devel] GDAL reads and writes JUMP JML now

[Rahkonen Jukka (Tike)]

Jml can take only one layer. Try command as
ogr2ogr -f jml output.jml input.xml layer_name.

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Lähettäjä: Uwe Dalluege<mailto:uwe.dallu...@hcu-hamburg.de>
Lähetetty: ‎21.‎10.‎2014 14:08
Vastaanottaja: Rahkonen Jukka (Tike)<mailto:jukka.rahko...@mmmtike.fi>; 
OpenJump develop and use<mailto:jump-pilot-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>
Aihe: Re: [JPP-Devel] GDAL reads and writes JUMP JML now

D:\Arbeit\ALKIS_LoD1\Test>ogrinfo ALKIS_FHH_0008.xml
Had to open data source read-only.
INFO: Open of `ALKIS_FHH_0008.xml'
   using driver `NAS' successful.
1: AP_PPO (Multi Point)
2: AP_PTO (Point)
3: AX_Baublock (Polygon)
4: AX_BauRaumOderBodenordnungsrecht (Polygon)
5: AX_BesondereFlurstuecksgrenze (Line String)
6: AX_Bodenschaetzung (Polygon)
7: AX_GeoreferenzierteGebaeudeadresse (Point)
8: AX_LagebezeichnungMitHausnummer (None)
9: AX_Flurstueck (Polygon)
10: AX_LagebezeichnungOhneHausnummer (None)
11: AX_Gebaeude (Polygon)
12: AX_LagebezeichnungMitPseudonummer (None)
13: AX_GrablochDerBodenschaetzung (Point)
14: AX_Landwirtschaft (Polygon)
15: AX_Strassenverkehrsanlage (Multi Line String)
16: AX_Vegetationsmerkmal (Point)
17: AX_Wald (Polygon)
18: ALKIS_beziehungen (None)

D:\Arbeit\ALKIS_LoD1\Test>pause
Drücken Sie eine beliebige Taste . . .

Regards

Uwe

Am 21.10.2014 um 12:32 schrieb Rahkonen Jukka (Tike):
> Do you have several layers in your XML? What do you see with plain
> "ogrinfo your-file.xml"?
>
> -Jukka-
> 
> Lähettäjä: Uwe Dalluege <mailto:uwe.dallu...@hcu-hamburg.de>
> Lähetetty: ‎21.‎10.‎2014 12:42
> Vastaanottaja: OpenJump develop and use
> <mailto:jump-pilot-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>; Rahkonen Jukka (Tike)
> <mailto:jukka.rahko...@mmmtike.fi>
> Aihe: Re: [JPP-Devel] GDAL reads and writes JUMP JML now
>
> Hi Jukka,
>
> thank you for your work!
>
> I receive an error when I try to convert an NAS xml-file to jml.
>
> D:\Arbeit\ALKIS_LoD1\Test>ogr2ogr -f "JML" xxx.jml ALKIS_FHH_0008.xml
> Layer AP_PTO not found, and CreateLayer not supported by driver.
> ERROR 1: Terminating translation prematurely after failed
> translation of layer AP_PTO (use -skipfailures to skip errors)
>
> Regards
>
> Uwe
>
> Am 20.10.2014 um 12:22 schrieb Rahkonen Jukka (Tike):
>> Hi,
>>
>> Since yesterday GDAL can read and write the JUMP JML format
>>http://gdal.org/drv_jml.html
>>
>> What does it mean?
>>
>> ·Data from any vector format that is supported by GDAL
>>http://www.gdal.org/ogr_formats.html can be converted from and into JUMP
>> JML format without a need to use shapefiles as interim format. That
>> removes some problems which come from the limitations of the shapefile
>> format:
>>
>> oColumn names can be longer than 10 characters
>>
>> oValues in string fields can be longer than 255 characters
>>
>> oLong datatime data type is supported
>>
>> oIf source data contains mixed geometry types there is no need to split
>> data into separate shapefiles by the geometry type
>>
>> I believe that GDAL JML driver will make is easier to use OpenJUMP in
>> workflows where data comes from various sources and several programs are
>> used in the processing chain.
>>
>> For testing the driver a GDAL from current trunk (revision r27882 or
>> higher) is needed. Windows users can get ready made binaries from
>>http://gisinternals.com/sdk/ by selecting some of the “development”
>> versions. The GDAL tool to use is ogr2ogrhttp://gdal.org/ogr2ogr.html.
>> As an example, for converting data from MapInfo tab into JML format the
>> command to use is
>>
>> ogr2ogr –f JML output.jml input.tab
>>
>> Feedback is welcome. I already noticed that at least on Windows with
>> Finnish locale OpenJUMP claims to store XML in UTF-8 which is not true.
>>
>> Driver is written by Even Rouault and donated to OpenJUMP community by me.
>>
>> -Jukka Rahkonen-
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [JPP-Devel] GDAL reads and writes JUMP JML now

[edgar . soldin]

hi Uwe,

wouldn't the layernames not be the names you fetched via ogrinfo? e.g.

AP_PPO or AX_BesondereFlurstuecksgrenze or AX_Wald

..ede

On 21.10.2014 13:34, Uwe Dalluege wrote:
> Hi Jukka,
> 
> this does not work:
> 
> 
> D:\Arbeit\ALKIS_LoD1\Test>
> ogr2ogr -f "JML" xxx.jml ALKIS_FHH_0008.xml "alkis"
> FAILURE: Couldn't fetch requested layer 'alkis'!
> 
> Please see also the attached .xml file
> 
> Regards
> 
> Uwe
> 
> 
> Am 21.10.2014 um 13:19 schrieb Rahkonen Jukka (Tike):
>> Jml can take only one layer. Try command as
>> ogr2ogr -f jml output.jml input.xml layer_name.
>>
>> -Jukka--
>> 
>> Lähettäjä: Uwe Dalluege <mailto:uwe.dallu...@hcu-hamburg.de>
>> Lähetetty: ‎21.‎10.‎2014 14:08
>> Vastaanottaja: Rahkonen Jukka (Tike) <mailto:jukka.rahko...@mmmtike.fi>;
>> OpenJump develop and use <mailto:jump-pilot-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>
>> Aihe: Re: [JPP-Devel] GDAL reads and writes JUMP JML now
>>
>> D:\Arbeit\ALKIS_LoD1\Test>ogrinfo ALKIS_FHH_0008.xml
>> Had to open data source read-only.
>> INFO: Open of `ALKIS_FHH_0008.xml'
>> using driver `NAS' successful.
>> 1: AP_PPO (Multi Point)
>> 2: AP_PTO (Point)
>> 3: AX_Baublock (Polygon)
>> 4: AX_BauRaumOderBodenordnungsrecht (Polygon)
>> 5: AX_BesondereFlurstuecksgrenze (Line String)
>> 6: AX_Bodenschaetzung (Polygon)
>> 7: AX_GeoreferenzierteGebaeudeadresse (Point)
>> 8: AX_LagebezeichnungMitHausnummer (None)
>> 9: AX_Flurstueck (Polygon)
>> 10: AX_LagebezeichnungOhneHausnummer (None)
>> 11: AX_Gebaeude (Polygon)
>> 12: AX_LagebezeichnungMitPseudonummer (None)
>> 13: AX_GrablochDerBodenschaetzung (Point)
>> 14: AX_Landwirtschaft (Polygon)
>> 15: AX_Strassenverkehrsanlage (Multi Line String)
>> 16: AX_Vegetationsmerkmal (Point)
>> 17: AX_Wald (Polygon)
>> 18: ALKIS_beziehungen (None)
>>
>> D:\Arbeit\ALKIS_LoD1\Test>pause
>> Drücken Sie eine beliebige Taste . . .
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Uwe
>>
>> Am 21.10.2014 um 12:32 schrieb Rahkonen Jukka (Tike):
>>> Do you have several layers in your XML? What do you see with plain
>>> "ogrinfo your-file.xml"?
>>>
>>> -Jukka-
>>> 
>>> Lähettäjä: Uwe Dalluege <mailto:uwe.dallu...@hcu-hamburg.de>
>>> Lähetetty: ‎21.‎10.‎2014 12:42
>>> Vastaanottaja: OpenJump develop and use
>>> <mailto:jump-pilot-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>; Rahkonen Jukka (Tike)
>>> <mailto:jukka.rahko...@mmmtike.fi>
>>> Aihe: Re: [JPP-Devel] GDAL reads and writes JUMP JML now
>>>
>>> Hi Jukka,
>>>
>>> thank you for your work!
>>>
>>> I receive an error when I try to convert an NAS xml-file to jml.
>>>
>>> D:\Arbeit\ALKIS_LoD1\Test>ogr2ogr -f "JML" xxx.jml ALKIS_FHH_0008.xml
>>> Layer AP_PTO not found, and CreateLayer not supported by driver.
>>> ERROR 1: Terminating translation prematurely after failed
>>> translation of layer AP_PTO (use -skipfailures to skip errors)
>>>
>>> Regards
>>>
>>> Uwe
>>>
>>> Am 20.10.2014 um 12:22 schrieb Rahkonen Jukka (Tike):
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> Since yesterday GDAL can read and write the JUMP JML format
>>>> http://gdal.org/drv_jml.html
>>>>
>>>> What does it mean?
>>>>
>>>> ·Data from any vector format that is supported by GDAL
>>>> http://www.gdal.org/ogr_formats.html can be converted from and into JUMP
>>>> JML format without a need to use shapefiles as interim format. That
>>>> removes some problems which come from the limitations of the shapefile
>>>> format:
>>>>
>>>> oColumn names can be longer than 10 characters
>>>>
>>>> oValues in string fields can be longer than 255 characters
>>>>
>>>> oLong datatime data type is supported
>>>>
>>>> oIf source data contains mixed geometry types there is no need to split
>>>> data into separate shapefiles by the geometry type
>>>>
>>>> I believe that GDAL JML driver will make is easier to use OpenJUMP in
>>>> workflows where data comes from various sources and several programs are
>>>> used in the processing chain.
>>>>
>>>> For testing the driver a G

Re: [JPP-Devel] GDAL reads and writes JUMP JML now

[Uwe Dalluege]

Hi Ede,

thank for the tip! Now it works!

Regards

Uwe


Am 21.10.2014 um 14:53 schrieb edgar.sol...@web.de:
> hi Uwe,
>
> wouldn't the layernames not be the names you fetched via ogrinfo? e.g.
>
> AP_PPO or AX_BesondereFlurstuecksgrenze or AX_Wald
>
> ..ede
>
> On 21.10.2014 13:34, Uwe Dalluege wrote:
>> Hi Jukka,
>>
>> this does not work:
>>
>>
>> D:\Arbeit\ALKIS_LoD1\Test>
>> ogr2ogr -f "JML" xxx.jml ALKIS_FHH_0008.xml "alkis"
>> FAILURE: Couldn't fetch requested layer 'alkis'!
>>
>> Please see also the attached .xml file
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Uwe
>>
>>
>> Am 21.10.2014 um 13:19 schrieb Rahkonen Jukka (Tike):
>>> Jml can take only one layer. Try command as
>>> ogr2ogr -f jml output.jml input.xml layer_name.
>>>
>>> -Jukka--
>>> 
>>> Lähettäjä: Uwe Dalluege <mailto:uwe.dallu...@hcu-hamburg.de>
>>> Lähetetty: ‎21.‎10.‎2014 14:08
>>> Vastaanottaja: Rahkonen Jukka (Tike) <mailto:jukka.rahko...@mmmtike.fi>;
>>> OpenJump develop and use <mailto:jump-pilot-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>
>>> Aihe: Re: [JPP-Devel] GDAL reads and writes JUMP JML now
>>>
>>> D:\Arbeit\ALKIS_LoD1\Test>ogrinfo ALKIS_FHH_0008.xml
>>> Had to open data source read-only.
>>> INFO: Open of `ALKIS_FHH_0008.xml'
>>>  using driver `NAS' successful.
>>> 1: AP_PPO (Multi Point)
>>> 2: AP_PTO (Point)
>>> 3: AX_Baublock (Polygon)
>>> 4: AX_BauRaumOderBodenordnungsrecht (Polygon)
>>> 5: AX_BesondereFlurstuecksgrenze (Line String)
>>> 6: AX_Bodenschaetzung (Polygon)
>>> 7: AX_GeoreferenzierteGebaeudeadresse (Point)
>>> 8: AX_LagebezeichnungMitHausnummer (None)
>>> 9: AX_Flurstueck (Polygon)
>>> 10: AX_LagebezeichnungOhneHausnummer (None)
>>> 11: AX_Gebaeude (Polygon)
>>> 12: AX_LagebezeichnungMitPseudonummer (None)
>>> 13: AX_GrablochDerBodenschaetzung (Point)
>>> 14: AX_Landwirtschaft (Polygon)
>>> 15: AX_Strassenverkehrsanlage (Multi Line String)
>>> 16: AX_Vegetationsmerkmal (Point)
>>> 17: AX_Wald (Polygon)
>>> 18: ALKIS_beziehungen (None)
>>>
>>> D:\Arbeit\ALKIS_LoD1\Test>pause
>>> Drücken Sie eine beliebige Taste . . .
>>>
>>> Regards
>>>
>>> Uwe
>>>
>>> Am 21.10.2014 um 12:32 schrieb Rahkonen Jukka (Tike):
>>>> Do you have several layers in your XML? What do you see with plain
>>>> "ogrinfo your-file.xml"?
>>>>
>>>> -Jukka-
>>>> 
>>>> Lähettäjä: Uwe Dalluege <mailto:uwe.dallu...@hcu-hamburg.de>
>>>> Lähetetty: ‎21.‎10.‎2014 12:42
>>>> Vastaanottaja: OpenJump develop and use
>>>> <mailto:jump-pilot-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>; Rahkonen Jukka (Tike)
>>>> <mailto:jukka.rahko...@mmmtike.fi>
>>>> Aihe: Re: [JPP-Devel] GDAL reads and writes JUMP JML now
>>>>
>>>> Hi Jukka,
>>>>
>>>> thank you for your work!
>>>>
>>>> I receive an error when I try to convert an NAS xml-file to jml.
>>>>
>>>> D:\Arbeit\ALKIS_LoD1\Test>ogr2ogr -f "JML" xxx.jml ALKIS_FHH_0008.xml
>>>> Layer AP_PTO not found, and CreateLayer not supported by driver.
>>>> ERROR 1: Terminating translation prematurely after failed
>>>> translation of layer AP_PTO (use -skipfailures to skip errors)
>>>>
>>>> Regards
>>>>
>>>> Uwe
>>>>
>>>> Am 20.10.2014 um 12:22 schrieb Rahkonen Jukka (Tike):
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> Since yesterday GDAL can read and write the JUMP JML format
>>>>> http://gdal.org/drv_jml.html
>>>>>
>>>>> What does it mean?
>>>>>
>>>>> ·Data from any vector format that is supported by GDAL
>>>>> http://www.gdal.org/ogr_formats.html can be converted from and into JUMP
>>>>> JML format without a need to use shapefiles as interim format. That
>>>>> removes some problems which come from the limitations of the shapefile
>>>>> format:
>>>>>
>>>>> oColumn names can be longer than 10 characters
>>>>

Re: [JPP-Devel] GDAL reads and writes JUMP JML now

[edgar . soldin]

On 20.10.2014 12:30, edgar.sol...@web.de wrote:
>> For testing the driver a GDAL from current trunk (revision r27882 or higher) 
>> is needed. Windows users can get ready made binaries from 
>> http://gisinternals.com/sdk/ by selecting some of the “development” 
>> versions. The GDAL tool to use is ogr2ogr http://gdal.org/ogr2ogr.html. As 
>> an example, for converting data from MapInfo tab into JML format the command 
>> to use is
>> > 
> i will update PLUS snapshot as soon as possible
>   

scratch that.. there were mere 60 downloads of our GDAL-windows package 
 https://sourceforge.net/projects/jump-pilot/files/OpenJUMP_plugins/Drivers/
from sourceforge since january. 
maybe we should come up with a MAXI release integrating GDAL for the lazy 
crossing the 100MB border though.

..ede

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Re: [JPP-Devel] GDAL reads and writes JUMP JML now

[Larry Becker]

Sounds like an idea whose time has come.  With GDAL support (in the MAXI
release) it would be possible to integrate the GUI tool from SkyJUMP that
uses ogr2ogr to to load any supported file format while reprojecting the
coordinate system.  See the attached screen shot. The main feature is the
exhaustive drop down list of coordinate systems that can be reduced by
typing a key word.

regards

Larry


On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 2:15 PM,  wrote:

> On 20.10.2014 12:30, edgar.sol...@web.de wrote:
> >> For testing the driver a GDAL from current trunk (revision r27882 or
> higher) is needed. Windows users can get ready made binaries from
> http://gisinternals.com/sdk/ by selecting some of the “development”
> versions. The GDAL tool to use is ogr2ogr http://gdal.org/ogr2ogr.html.
> As an example, for converting data from MapInfo tab into JML format the
> command to use is
> >> >
> > i will update PLUS snapshot as soon as possible
> >
>
> scratch that.. there were mere 60 downloads of our GDAL-windows package
>
> https://sourceforge.net/projects/jump-pilot/files/OpenJUMP_plugins/Drivers/
> from sourceforge since january.
> maybe we should come up with a MAXI release integrating GDAL for the lazy
> crossing the 100MB border though.
>
> ..ede
>
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Re: [JPP-Devel] GDAL reads and writes JUMP JML now

[edgar . soldin]

On 22.10.2014 21:43, Larry Becker wrote:
> The main feature is the exhaustive drop down list of coordinate systems that 
> can be reduced by typing a key word.

not targeting Jukka at all : ..ede

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Re: [JPP-Devel] GDAL reads and writes JUMP JML now

[edgar . soldin]

hmm.. if you've already got it in SkyJUMP i am definitely on board.. let's port 
that... additionally we should have a converter (File->Convert) that'd allow to 
easily convert files within the restraints of ogr2ogr.. simply showing the 
error in a dialog if one occurs.

hmm.. as JML support is new, what does your extension read into SkyJUMP.. 
shapefiles?

..ede


On 22.10.2014 21:43, Larry Becker wrote:
> Sounds like an idea whose time has come.  With GDAL support (in the MAXI 
> release) it would be possible to integrate the GUI tool from SkyJUMP that 
> uses ogr2ogr to to load any supported file format while reprojecting the 
> coordinate system.  See the attached screen shot. The main feature is the 
> exhaustive drop down list of coordinate systems that can be reduced by typing 
> a key word.
> 
> regards
> 
> Larry
> 
> 
> On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 2:15 PM,  > wrote:
> 
> On 20.10.2014 12:30, edgar.sol...@web.de  
> wrote:
> >> For testing the driver a GDAL from current trunk (revision r27882 or 
> higher) is needed. Windows users can get ready made binaries from 
> http://gisinternals.com/sdk/ by selecting some of the “development” versions. 
> The GDAL tool to use is ogr2ogr http://gdal.org/ogr2ogr.html. As an example, 
> for converting data from MapInfo tab into JML format the command to use is
> >> >
> > i will update PLUS snapshot as soon as possible
> >
> 
> scratch that.. there were mere 60 downloads of our GDAL-windows package
>  
> https://sourceforge.net/projects/jump-pilot/files/OpenJUMP_plugins/Drivers/
> from sourceforge since january.
> maybe we should come up with a MAXI release integrating GDAL for the lazy 
> crossing the 100MB border though.
> 
> ..ede
> 
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Re: [JPP-Devel] GDAL reads and writes JUMP JML now

[Larry Becker]

You got me.  8-)  Jukka may be the last SkyJUMP user outside of the small
community of users it was built to support.

On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 2:46 PM,  wrote:

> On 22.10.2014 21:43, Larry Becker wrote:
> > The main feature is the exhaustive drop down list of coordinate systems
> that can be reduced by typing a key word.
>
> not targeting Jukka at all : ..ede
>
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Re: [JPP-Devel] GDAL reads and writes JUMP JML now

[Larry Becker]

You can check it out as the sourceforge stand-alone project iGor

http://sourceforge.net/projects/ogr-igor/

It supports shapefiles now, but it should be easy to add the new JML
conversion support.

Larry

On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 2:52 PM,  wrote:

> hmm.. if you've already got it in SkyJUMP i am definitely on board.. let's
> port that... additionally we should have a converter (File->Convert) that'd
> allow to easily convert files within the restraints of ogr2ogr.. simply
> showing the error in a dialog if one occurs.
>
> hmm.. as JML support is new, what does your extension read into SkyJUMP..
> shapefiles?
>
> ..ede
>
>
> On 22.10.2014 21:43, Larry Becker wrote:
> > Sounds like an idea whose time has come.  With GDAL support (in the MAXI
> release) it would be possible to integrate the GUI tool from SkyJUMP that
> uses ogr2ogr to to load any supported file format while reprojecting the
> coordinate system.  See the attached screen shot. The main feature is the
> exhaustive drop down list of coordinate systems that can be reduced by
> typing a key word.
> >
> > regards
> >
> > Larry
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 2:15 PM,  edgar.sol...@web.de>> wrote:
> >
> > On 20.10.2014 12:30, edgar.sol...@web.de 
> wrote:
> > >> For testing the driver a GDAL from current trunk (revision r27882
> or higher) is needed. Windows users can get ready made binaries from
> http://gisinternals.com/sdk/ by selecting some of the “development”
> versions. The GDAL tool to use is ogr2ogr http://gdal.org/ogr2ogr.html.
> As an example, for converting data from MapInfo tab into JML format the
> command to use is
> > >> >
> > > i will update PLUS snapshot as soon as possible
> > >
> >
> > scratch that.. there were mere 60 downloads of our GDAL-windows
> package
> >
> https://sourceforge.net/projects/jump-pilot/files/OpenJUMP_plugins/Drivers/
> > from sourceforge since january.
> > maybe we should come up with a MAXI release integrating GDAL for the
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Re: [JPP-Devel] GDAL reads and writes JUMP JML now

[edgar . soldin]

hahhaa.. you could've sold me on accident, but now it's written down :))).. ede

On 22.10.2014 21:55, Larry Becker wrote:
> You got me.  8-)  Jukka may be the last SkyJUMP user outside of the small 
> community of users it was built to support.
> 
> On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 2:46 PM,  > wrote:
> 
> On 22.10.2014 21:43, Larry Becker wrote:
> > The main feature is the exhaustive drop down list of coordinate systems 
> that can be reduced by typing a key word.
> 
> not targeting Jukka at all : ..ede
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Re: [JPP-Devel] GDAL reads and writes JUMP JML now

[edgar . soldin]

any other goodies. while we're at it you wanna see ported to OJ?

..ede

On 22.10.2014 22:01, Larry Becker wrote:
> You can check it out as the sourceforge stand-alone project iGor 
> 
> http://sourceforge.net/projects/ogr-igor/
> 
> It supports shapefiles now, but it should be easy to add the new JML 
> conversion support.
> 
> Larry
> 
> On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 2:52 PM,  > wrote:
> 
> hmm.. if you've already got it in SkyJUMP i am definitely on board.. 
> let's port that... additionally we should have a converter (File->Convert) 
> that'd allow to easily convert files within the restraints of ogr2ogr.. 
> simply showing the error in a dialog if one occurs.
> 
> hmm.. as JML support is new, what does your extension read into SkyJUMP.. 
> shapefiles?
> 
> ..ede
> 
> 
> On 22.10.2014 21:43, Larry Becker wrote:
> > Sounds like an idea whose time has come.  With GDAL support (in the 
> MAXI release) it would be possible to integrate the GUI tool from SkyJUMP 
> that uses ogr2ogr to to load any supported file format while reprojecting the 
> coordinate system.  See the attached screen shot. The main feature is the 
> exhaustive drop down list of coordinate systems that can be reduced by typing 
> a key word.
> >
> > regards
> >
> > Larry
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 2:15 PM,    >> wrote:
> >
> > On 20.10.2014 12:30, edgar.sol...@web.de 
>   > wrote:
> > >> For testing the driver a GDAL from current trunk (revision 
> r27882 or higher) is needed. Windows users can get ready made binaries from 
> http://gisinternals.com/sdk/ by selecting some of the “development” versions. 
> The GDAL tool to use is ogr2ogr http://gdal.org/ogr2ogr.html. As an example, 
> for converting data from MapInfo tab into JML format the command to use is
> > >> >
> > > i will update PLUS snapshot as soon as possible
> > >
> >
> > scratch that.. there were mere 60 downloads of our GDAL-windows 
> package
> >  
> https://sourceforge.net/projects/jump-pilot/files/OpenJUMP_plugins/Drivers/
> > from sourceforge since january.
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Re: [JPP-Devel] GDAL reads and writes JUMP JML now

[Larry Becker]

Well, there is the SJ layer context menu item "Open in Google Earth" that
uses OGR to translate the layer to KML and launches it in GE. Gimmicky, but
impressive. However, currently it only supports the UTM projection.

On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 3:13 PM,  wrote:

> any other goodies. while we're at it you wanna see ported to OJ?
>
> ..ede
>
> On 22.10.2014 22:01, Larry Becker wrote:
> > You can check it out as the sourceforge stand-alone project iGor
> >
> > http://sourceforge.net/projects/ogr-igor/
> >
> > It supports shapefiles now, but it should be easy to add the new JML
> conversion support.
> >
> > Larry
> >
> > On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 2:52 PM,  edgar.sol...@web.de>> wrote:
> >
> > hmm.. if you've already got it in SkyJUMP i am definitely on board..
> let's port that... additionally we should have a converter (File->Convert)
> that'd allow to easily convert files within the restraints of ogr2ogr..
> simply showing the error in a dialog if one occurs.
> >
> > hmm.. as JML support is new, what does your extension read into
> SkyJUMP.. shapefiles?
> >
> > ..ede
> >
> >
> > On 22.10.2014 21:43, Larry Becker wrote:
> > > Sounds like an idea whose time has come.  With GDAL support (in
> the MAXI release) it would be possible to integrate the GUI tool from
> SkyJUMP that uses ogr2ogr to to load any supported file format while
> reprojecting the coordinate system.  See the attached screen shot. The main
> feature is the exhaustive drop down list of coordinate systems that can be
> reduced by typing a key word.
> > >
> > > regards
> > >
> > > Larry
> > >
> > >
> > > On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 2:15 PM,  edgar.sol...@web.de> >> wrote:
> > >
> > > On 20.10.2014 12:30, edgar.sol...@web.de  edgar.sol...@web.de> > wrote:
> > > >> For testing the driver a GDAL from current trunk (revision
> r27882 or higher) is needed. Windows users can get ready made binaries from
> http://gisinternals.com/sdk/ by selecting some of the “development”
> versions. The GDAL tool to use is ogr2ogr http://gdal.org/ogr2ogr.html.
> As an example, for converting data from MapInfo tab into JML format the
> command to use is
> > > >> >
> > > > i will update PLUS snapshot as soon as possible
> > > >
> > >
> > > scratch that.. there were mere 60 downloads of our
> GDAL-windows package
> > >
> https://sourceforge.net/projects/jump-pilot/files/OpenJUMP_plugins/Drivers/
> > > from sourceforge since january.
> > > maybe we should come up with a MAXI release integrating GDAL
> for the lazy crossing the 100MB border though.
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Re: [JPP-Devel] GDAL reads and writes JUMP JML now

[Rahkonen Jukka (Tike)]

Hi,

I like GDAL a lot and I use its vector and raster capabilities daily. It would 
also be unfair to sit in the Program steering committee of GDAL if I didn’t 
like it. However, I also like OpenJUMP and it feels important for me to keep it 
fully operational on Windows, Linux, and Mac (both 32 and 64 bit) with a 
minimal footprint. The current download size of 23 or 46 MB makes OpenJUMP 
really “A small Open Source GIS that can” as Martin Davis wrote. We do have 
less features and less users than QGIS but we also have only 43 open issues in 
bug tracker while QGIS seems to have 1184.

Because of simplicity I considered that making a JML driver into GDAL was 
better choice than to build a deeply integrated GDAL data store into OpenJUMP. 
Now it is possible to make format conversions totally outside OpenJUMP with 
native utilities and even the minimal OJ Core can enjoy the results.

That said, I for sure have nothing against making an OpenJUMP Maxi version with 
the integrated GUI tool. Both iGOR and the newest ogr2gui version 
http://www.ogr2gui.ca/en/index.php are brilliant. They also show what is the 
weakness: They are not so easy to build and install on all Windows/Linux/Mac, 
and they get old so soon. For example, JML driver is tagged to GDAL version 2.0 
and it probably takes a year before it is released and available for Linux from 
stable sources.

-Jukka Rahkonen-



Lähettäjä: Larry Becker [mailto:becker.la...@gmail.com]
Lähetetty: 22. lokakuuta 2014 22:44
Vastaanottaja: OpenJump develop and use
Aihe: Re: [JPP-Devel] GDAL reads and writes JUMP JML now

Sounds like an idea whose time has come.  With GDAL support (in the MAXI 
release) it would be possible to integrate the GUI tool from SkyJUMP that uses 
ogr2ogr to to load any supported file format while reprojecting the coordinate 
system.  See the attached screen shot. The main feature is the exhaustive drop 
down list of coordinate systems that can be reduced by typing a key word.
regards
Larry

On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 2:15 PM, 
mailto:edgar.sol...@web.de>> wrote:
On 20.10.2014 12:30, edgar.sol...@web.de<mailto:edgar.sol...@web.de> wrote:
>> For testing the driver a GDAL from current trunk (revision r27882 or higher) 
>> is needed. Windows users can get ready made binaries from 
>> http://gisinternals.com/sdk/ by selecting some of the “development” 
>> versions. The GDAL tool to use is ogr2ogr http://gdal.org/ogr2ogr.html. As 
>> an example, for converting data from MapInfo tab into JML format the command 
>> to use is
>> >
> i will update PLUS snapshot as soon as possible
>

scratch that.. there were mere 60 downloads of our GDAL-windows package
 https://sourceforge.net/projects/jump-pilot/files/OpenJUMP_plugins/Drivers/
from sourceforge since january.
maybe we should come up with a MAXI release integrating GDAL for the lazy 
crossing the 100MB border though.

..ede

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