Re: [JPP-Devel] PLUG INS>TOPOLOGY>Project Point on LINE (Orthogonal Projection would be useful in making of geological section)

2012-12-31 Thread Landon Blake
Praveen:

I'm trying to clarify what you are asking for. You don't want a
perpendicular projection onto the line?

Landon

On Fri, Dec 28, 2012 at 10:32 AM, Praveen Sinha  wrote:

> Hi,
> PLUG INS>TOPOLOGY>Project Point on LINE is a nice tool in 1.52 OJ but for
> its use in making of geological sections reqires Orthogonal Projection (to
> a point on the line with change in Y and not X) than nearest point on line.
> If it could be developed in 1.6 it will have be appreciated, thanks in
> advance.
> P.K.Sinha
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Re: [JPP-Devel] PLUG INS>TOPOLOGY>Project Point on LINE (Orthogonal Projection would be useful in making of geological section)

2012-12-31 Thread Giuseppe Aruta
I try to clarify Praveen's question. Points on geological maps are manu
things,included strike/deep of geological layers. Those layers are  often
inclined comparing to the vertical. Each point expresses two datas: the
deep (how many degrees the layer is inclined) and the deepdirection (which
is basically the azimuth referencing North). If you consider the geological
layer, this intersects the horizon layer to a line, perpendicular to the
deep direction, which is called Strike:Basically a POINT geological layer
schema has minimim 4 attributes: DEEP (how many degrees is inclined to the
horizontal plane), DEEP DIRECTION (whic is the direction of the deep),
STRIKE (perpendicular to DEEP DIRECTION, thedirection (clockwise) of the
line intersectrion of geololgical layer with the horizontal layer), TYPE
(the tipe of information, not imnpoetant for this discussion)
Now Project Points plugin allows to project point datas perpendicular to
the line, while on a geological section points (layers) have to be
projected according to the intersection of the strike line and the target
line.
I hope I was clear (after a glass of red wine:happy new year to all
OJ-nautes!!)

Peppe

2012/12/31 Landon Blake 

> Praveen:
>
> I'm trying to clarify what you are asking for. You don't want a
> perpendicular projection onto the line?
>
> Landon
>
> On Fri, Dec 28, 2012 at 10:32 AM, Praveen Sinha  wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>> PLUG INS>TOPOLOGY>Project Point on LINE is a nice tool in 1.52 OJ but for
>> its use in making of geological sections reqires Orthogonal Projection (to
>> a point on the line with change in Y and not X) than nearest point on line.
>> If it could be developed in 1.6 it will have be appreciated, thanks in
>> advance.
>> P.K.Sinha
>>
>>
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Re: [JPP-Devel] PLUG INS>TOPOLOGY>Project Point on LINE (Orthogonal Projection would be useful in making of geological section)

2013-01-02 Thread Praveen Sinha
Hi,Actually, I mean orthogonal (verticaly up and not with inclination= in 
proximity it does acquire an inclined path) translation of the intersection 
points ( between section line and the lithology polygon layer (rotated to 
horizontal X varies from point to point but Y is constant)) to a curved profile 
line (developed on the section line ). 
This is not to develop a geographic layer but just to improvise the 
co-ordinated space of the display device of OJ to draw a geological section.
Find attached a drawing to understand the point, I am driving at. I like the 
points should be translated to profile line not based on proximity location as 
presently the tool translate them to. I want an additional option to translate 
the points ORTHOGONALY to the profile line. This is to enhance the translated 
location on profile to litho-specific tendency underground (bedded, intrusive, 
inclined, faulted etc.)
Thank you.

P.K.Sinha

--- On Tue, 1/1/13, Giuseppe Aruta  wrote:

From: Giuseppe Aruta 
Subject: Re: [JPP-Devel] PLUG INS>TOPOLOGY>Project Point on LINE (Orthogonal 
Projection would be useful in making of geological section)
To: "OpenJump develop and use" 
Date: Tuesday, January 1, 2013, 3:39 AM

I try to clarify Praveen's question. Points on geological maps are manu 
things,included strike/deep of geological layers. Those layers are  often 
inclined comparing to the vertical. Each point expresses two datas: the deep 
(how many degrees the layer is inclined) and the deepdirection (which is 
basically the azimuth referencing North). If you consider the geological layer, 
this intersects the horizon layer to a line, perpendicular to the deep 
direction, which is called Strike:Basically a POINT geological layer schema has 
minimim 4 attributes: DEEP (how many degrees is inclined to the horizontal 
plane), DEEP DIRECTION (whic is the direction of the deep), STRIKE 
(perpendicular to DEEP DIRECTION, thedirection (clockwise) of the line 
intersectrion of geololgical layer with the horizontal layer), TYPE (the tipe 
of information, not imnpoetant for this discussion)
Now Project Points plugin allows to project point datas perpendicular to the 
line, while on a geological section points (layers) have to be projected 
according to the intersection of the strike line and the target line.
I hope I was clear (after a glass of red wine:happy new year to all OJ-nautes!!)
Peppe

2012/12/31 Landon Blake 

Praveen:

I'm trying to clarify what you are asking for. You don't want a perpendicular 
projection onto the line?


Landon

On Fri, Dec 28, 2012 at 10:32 AM, Praveen Sinha  wrote:

Hi,
PLUG INS>TOPOLOGY>Project Point on LINE is a nice tool in 1.52 OJ but for its 
use in making of geological sections reqires Orthogonal Projection (to a point 
on the line with change in Y and not X) than nearest point on line. If it could 
be developed in 1.6 it will have be appreciated, thanks in advance.


P.K.Sinha
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Re: [JPP-Devel] PLUG INS>TOPOLOGY>Project Point on LINE (Orthogonal Projection would be useful in making of geological section)

2013-01-02 Thread Giuseppe Aruta
Hi Praveen,
geographically speaking what you call Y is Z, the vertical, if I understood
what you say. Your profile seems to be leading on the X/Y surface (the
horizontal), right? There are some issue that are important for geological
sections, especially in medium to small scale (ex 1:25.000-1:5:000), for
instance those points, projected firs tto the section and than to the
profile might show situation which are not on the surface but underground.
If you project them on the surface you bring a geometrical error on the
rapresentation of the structures. Second problem is what I wrote before, to
take into account the strike of the bodies which cannot be perpendicular to
the section. There are other question too that make me not sure if a simple
ortogonal projection tool can be useful for geological sections. Anyhow I
leave the other OJ member to give their opinion about that.
There is a "dirty" way to obtain what you need
a) add geographical  Z as a separate attruibute to all your points and
project them to the line
c) for each point add the distance from the star point as a separate
attribute (ex L)
d) save the layer as TEXT file
e) reload the file using a CVS plugin into Openjump and choose Z attribuite
as Y and L attribute as X
The pointss will be reprojected at the right distance from the start point
of the section and at the right deep (or altitude) from the surface line
NOTE that the profile has to be build using the same tecnique.

After drawing your geological section using OJ as a cad drawing software
you can export the section as DXF
I hope I was clear

regards

Peppe

2013/1/2 Praveen Sinha 

> Hi,
> Actually, I mean orthogonal (verticaly up and not with inclination= in
> proximity it does acquire an inclined path) translation of the intersection
> points ( between section line and the lithology polygon layer (rotated to
> horizontal X varies from point to point but Y is constant)) to a curved
> profile line (developed on the section line ).
>
> This is not to develop a geographic layer but just to improvise the
> co-ordinated space of the display device of OJ to draw a geological section.
>
> Find attached a drawing to understand the point, I am driving at. I like
> the points should be translated to profile line not based on proximity
> location as presently the tool translate them to. I want an additional
> option to translate the points ORTHOGONALY to the profile line. This is to
> enhance the translated location on profile to litho-specific tendency
> underground (bedded, intrusive, inclined, faulted etc.)
>
> Thank you.
>
> P.K.Sinha
>
> --- On *Tue, 1/1/13, Giuseppe Aruta * wrote:
>
>
> From: Giuseppe Aruta 
> Subject: Re: [JPP-Devel] PLUG INS>TOPOLOGY>Project Point on LINE
> (Orthogonal Projection would be useful in making of geological section)
> To: "OpenJump develop and use" 
> Date: Tuesday, January 1, 2013, 3:39 AM
>
>
> I try to clarify Praveen's question. Points on geological maps are manu
> things,included strike/deep of geological layers. Those layers are  often
> inclined comparing to the vertical. Each point expresses two datas: the
> deep (how many degrees the layer is inclined) and the deepdirection (which
> is basically the azimuth referencing North). If you consider the geological
> layer, this intersects the horizon layer to a line, perpendicular to the
> deep direction, which is called Strike:Basically a POINT geological layer
> schema has minimim 4 attributes: DEEP (how many degrees is inclined to the
> horizontal plane), DEEP DIRECTION (whic is the direction of the deep),
> STRIKE (perpendicular to DEEP DIRECTION, thedirection (clockwise) of the
> line intersectrion of geololgical layer with the horizontal layer), TYPE
> (the tipe of information, not imnpoetant for this discussion)
> Now Project Points plugin allows to project point datas perpendicular to
> the line, while on a geological section points (layers) have to be
> projected according to the intersection of the strike line and the target
> line.
> I hope I was clear (after a glass of red wine:happy new year to all
> OJ-nautes!!)
>
> Peppe
>
> 2012/12/31 Landon Blake 
> http://mc/compose?to=sunburned.surve...@gmail.com>
> >
>
> Praveen:
>
> I'm trying to clarify what you are asking for. You don't want a
> perpendicular projection onto the line?
>
> Landon
>
> On Fri, Dec 28, 2012 at 10:32 AM, Praveen Sinha 
> http://mc/compose?to=pks...@yahoo.com>
> > wrote:
>
> Hi,
> PLUG INS>TOPOLOGY>Project Point on LINE is a nice tool in 1.52 OJ but for
> its use in making of geological sections reqires Orthogonal Projection (to
> a point on the line with change in Y and not X) than nearest point on line.
> If it could be developed in 1.6 it will have b