Re: [j-nsp] Olive Qemu/GNS3 networking issue on Snow Leopard

2010-06-17 Thread Deon Vermeulen
Hi Tommy, Giany, Stefan

I manage to find the problem.

I created a qemu base image with Junos 10.2R1.8, but instead of using the 
182559er NIC I used the e1000 for my JUNOS Routers.
I reconfigured all interfaces for JUNOS Routers 1 to 4.
I got this error when committing my configs: 

!
root# commit 
Interrupt storm detected on irq11:; throttling interrupt source
!

I also got this error after all my configs where done and I started testing 
connectivity with pings:

!
r...@r1# em2: watchdog timeout -- resetting
!

I googled the above error and found the solution to my problem on this page
http://www.gns3.net/phpBB/topic2147.html?sid=0a8b808d046a2697efc844a92cd1e45a


The problem seems to be with fxp3,em2,etc... So I just adjust my Router 
connectivity to not use Interface 2 and my LAB is working.

According to Nacho ( who posted 19:13, 28 April 2010 on 
http://blog.gns3.net/2009/10/olive-juniper/) IPv6 and multicast (PIM) is not 
supported on the e1000 but on the i82559er interfaces.

I have a MBPro with 4Gig RAM, so I'll be setting up my LAB with the 182559er 
interfaces and see if my qemu instance crashes when running the EBGP case study 
on my machine.


Kind Regards

Deon Vermeulen

On Jun 16, 2010, at 7:34 AM, Deon Vermeulen wrote:

 Hi Tommy,
 
 Perhaps we can work on this together.
 
 I used the below ink to get GNS3 and qemu working on my Machine.
 http://www.networkfoo.org/cisco-articles/running-cisco-asa-firewall-gns3-os-x
 
 I used this site only to help with the creating/installing of the JUNOS Olive 
 Base Image and the networking part.
 http://blog.gns3.net/2009/10/olive-juniper/
 
 I really need to get this working specifically as I want to use this to Lab 
 real life scenarios where I use a mix of Cisco and Juniper Equipment.
 
 I really have limited OS X cli (BSD) experience which makes it a bit 
 challenging for me.
 
 
 Kind Regards
 
 Deon
 
 On Jun 15, 2010, at 6:30 PM, Tommy Perniciaro wrote:
 
 If you get that working let me know :)
 
 That would be awesome
 
 -Original Message-
 From: juniper-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net 
 [mailto:juniper-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Deon Vermeulen
 Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2010 5:24 AM
 To: juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net
 Subject: [j-nsp] Olive Qemu/GNS3 networking issue on Snow Leopard
 
 Hi Forum,
 
 I have been trying to get the JNCIP LAB 
 (www.juniper.net/training/certification/JNCIP_studyguide.pdf) up and running 
 on my MacBook Pro running Snow Leopard 10.6.3.
 I've manage to get it working with qemu using UNIX sockets and UDP tunnels, 
 but only 2 Juniper routers (R1  R2) could network with each other.
 
 After 5 months of back and forth I eventually got GNS3 running for Juniper 
 under Snow Leopard 10.6.3.
 I manage to get the JNCIP LAB setup and start all routers just as with qemu, 
 but still experience the same networking issues.
 
 I can only ping between R1 and R2.
 I see the arp entry on R1 and R2 for R3 but can not ping to R3 from R1 or R2.
 On R3, I can ping the local address of the interface connecting to R1 and 
 R2, but cannot ping to R1 or R2 from R3.
 
 I disabled my MAC Firewall, but still no luck.
 
 My LAB Topology is based on the Official JNCIP Study Guide from Juniper.
 www.juniper.net/training/certification/JNCIP_studyguide.pdf
 
 
 Any help/guidance will really be appreciated.
 
 Thank you in advance
 
 Kind Regards
 
 Deon Vermeulen
 Fax2Email:   088628731
 email: vermeulen.d...@gmail.com
 
 
 
 
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Re: [j-nsp] ISIS Routing Problem

2010-06-17 Thread Eric Van Tol
 -Original Message-
 From: Felix Schueren [mailto:felix.schue...@hosteurope.de]
 Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2010 10:16 PM
 To: Eric Van Tol
 Cc: juniper-nsp
 Subject: Re: [j-nsp] ISIS Routing Problem
 
 Eric,
 
 IS-IS always prefers routes reachable via L1 over those reachable via
 L2, and in this case the IS-IS route selection will only ever export the
 L1 version of the route to the main junos kernel, and _after_ the IS-IS
 decision (use L1 over L2) was made junos will apply the global route
 preference mapping, then put the IS-IS route into it's routing tables.
 
 Kind regards,
 
 Felix

Thanks, that clears it up for me.  Just tried the static route solution and now 
it looks like I'll be headed over to cisco-nsp because neither my route-maps 
for ISIS or BGP are working properly on the 6509s.


-evt

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Re: [j-nsp] VPLS label allocation

2010-06-17 Thread Muruganandham M
The formula used in junos for label allocation is :

VPN label = label-base-remote + local-site-id – label-offset-remote

Regds,
Anand

On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 6:22 AM, David water dwater2...@gmail.com wrote:

 Can some one point me to the easy calculation document for RFC4761 label
 allocation technique? its very confusing.

 To my understanding site-offset + label-range should cover the remote site
 id

 So if remote site id is 30 then site-offset should be 24 and range should
 be
 8 which covers the range from 24 to 31 where this range does cover the
 remote site id of 30. And label value will be label-base + offset - remote
 site id.

 For remote site id of 4 offset should be 1 and range should be 8.

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Re: [j-nsp] VPLS label allocation

2010-06-17 Thread Phill Jolliffe
Need to be careful when describing the formula. local/remote site id
means varies depending on perspective.

for example:

PE-A, (connected to customer site id 1), advertises a label base of
1000, range of 4 and offset of 1

This route is received by remote PE-B that has another sight in the
same VPN. The site connected to PE-B is site id 3.

Traffic forward from site 3 to site 1 will arrive at PE-A with a label 1002

label base + remote sight id - offset
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Re: [j-nsp] VPLS label allocation

2010-06-17 Thread vr . patil
I suppose for your case i.e. site-id 30, site-offset is 25. For more 
information on JUNOS vpls label allocation refer below link.

http://kb.juniper.net/library/CUSTOMERSERVICE/technotes/Understanding_VPLS_Label_Blocks_Operation.pdf

In summary

site-offset = site-id  (site-offset + label-range)

where site-offset and label-range are as advertised by the remote peer

the end site-offset is a multiple of the label-range, which is by default 8. 

Label for remote-site =  (label base + (site ID − site-offset))

where label base and site-offset are as advertised by the remote peer.

HTH,
--Vijay


  
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[j-nsp] Netscreen firewalls multicast replication

2010-06-17 Thread Phil Mayers

All,

Just a quick question...

We run a pair of Netscreen 5400s with M2 management boards and 10gig 
modules, running ScreenOS 6.3, in routed mode.


A while back we discovered a documented limitation, specifically that 
these firewalls don't have multicast replication hardware. You can run 
them in one of two modes:


 1. Multicast is done in hardware. In this mode, receivers must all be 
on one outbound interface, and multicast is faked, I guess by adding 
/32 routes for the group pointing out of the output interface (as 
opposed to a proper 64-bit (s,g) lookup) - this is set flow multicast 
install-hw-session.


 2. Multicast is done in software. In this mode, things work as normal 
but very high bit rates (e.g. a 20Mbit stream) can load the CPUs. This 
is the default.



So, this is unfortunate but fine - I can live with that.

Question: do any later models of Juniper/Netscreen have multicast 
replication hardware?


Do any other *vendors* have it?

Obviously transparent / layer2 mode doesn't have this issue, but we 
don't want to run that for many reasons.

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Re: [j-nsp] VPLS label allocation

2010-06-17 Thread David water
Now, how the label base, offset is calculated, we can configure the site id
so how does the router calculate the other values?

On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 8:30 AM, Phill Jolliffe ph...@twine-networks.comwrote:

 Need to be careful when describing the formula. local/remote site id
 means varies depending on perspective.

 for example:

 PE-A, (connected to customer site id 1), advertises a label base of
 1000, range of 4 and offset of 1

 This route is received by remote PE-B that has another sight in the
 same VPN. The site connected to PE-B is site id 3.

 Traffic forward from site 3 to site 1 will arrive at PE-A with a label 1002

 label base + remote sight id - offset




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Re: [j-nsp] Olive Qemu/GNS3 networking issue on Snow Leopard

2010-06-17 Thread Stefan Fouant
 -Original Message-
 From: Deon Vermeulen [mailto:vermeulen.d...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2010 5:05 AM
 To: Tommy Perniciaro; Giany; Stefan Fouant
 Cc: juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net
 Subject: Re: [j-nsp] Olive Qemu/GNS3 networking issue on Snow Leopard
 
 I have a MBPro with 4Gig RAM, so I'll be setting up my LAB with the
 182559er interfaces and see if my qemu instance crashes when running the
 EBGP case study on my machine.

FYI, I've successfully managed to run my Olives with as little as 96 MB of
memory allocated to each VM, but only AFTER installation was complete.  It
seems for whatever reason the memory check function only exists during
initial installation, but once its installed it can be run with effectively
a lot less memory.  I've even managed to get my Olives to run with as little
as 48 MB of memory allocated to the VM but it was painfully slow.

4 GB of memory should be more than adequate to get yourself a decent virtual
lab going...

Stefan Fouant, CISSP, JNCIEx2
www.shortestpathfirst.net
GPG Key ID: 0xB5E3803D

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Re: [j-nsp] Olive Qemu/GNS3 networking issue on Snow Leopard

2010-06-17 Thread Deon Vermeulen
Thanks I've picked up that I need quite a bit of Memory to get JUNOS installed.
I used 1534 for installing 10.2. I'm sure 1024 is more then enough for this.
I'm running my qemus with 96MB RAM in GNS3 as I don't want to boot the LAB 
every time I want to use it, but I also still want to be able to use my machine 
as normal without the lack of Memory.
Images do take a long time to boot up, but once up and running they work like a 
charm.

Thanks again for the Notes. Really Appreciate it.


Kind Regards

Deon Vermeulen

On Jun 17, 2010, at 4:28 PM, Stefan Fouant wrote:

 -Original Message-
 From: Deon Vermeulen [mailto:vermeulen.d...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2010 5:05 AM
 To: Tommy Perniciaro; Giany; Stefan Fouant
 Cc: juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net
 Subject: Re: [j-nsp] Olive Qemu/GNS3 networking issue on Snow Leopard
 
 I have a MBPro with 4Gig RAM, so I'll be setting up my LAB with the
 182559er interfaces and see if my qemu instance crashes when running the
 EBGP case study on my machine.
 
 FYI, I've successfully managed to run my Olives with as little as 96 MB of
 memory allocated to each VM, but only AFTER installation was complete.  It
 seems for whatever reason the memory check function only exists during
 initial installation, but once its installed it can be run with effectively
 a lot less memory.  I've even managed to get my Olives to run with as little
 as 48 MB of memory allocated to the VM but it was painfully slow.
 
 4 GB of memory should be more than adequate to get yourself a decent virtual
 lab going...
 
 Stefan Fouant, CISSP, JNCIEx2
 www.shortestpathfirst.net
 GPG Key ID: 0xB5E3803D
 


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Re: [j-nsp] Logical-Systems Management SNMP

2010-06-17 Thread Dan Farrell
# set snmp community XPTO clients 10.31.0.236

Dan

-Original Message-
From: juniper-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net 
[mailto:juniper-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Gabriel Farias
Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2010 4:16 PM
To: juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net; juniper-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net
Subject: Re: [j-nsp] Logical-Systems Management SNMP

Hi friends,

I used the following configuration, but I'm having error and the server 
database can not read the information via snmp.



Do you have any hint of what is happening?

thanks



*Attempting Server*:

sa19rb1:/ # ping 10.251.42.230 -n 4

PING 10.251.42.230: 64 byte packets

64 bytes from 10.251.42.230: icmp_seq=0. time=1. ms

64 bytes from 10.251.42.230: icmp_seq=1. time=1. ms

64 bytes from 10.251.42.230: icmp_seq=2. time=1. ms

64 bytes from 10.251.42.230: icmp_seq=3. time=1. ms

10.251.42.230 PING Statistics

4 packets transmitted, 4 packets received, 0% packet loss

round-trip (ms)  min/avg/max = 1/1/1



sa19rb1:/ # snmpwalk 10.251.42.230 system

snmpwalk: No response arrived before timeout.



*Configure used*

{master}[edit]

q...@ixr01rjo# show snmp

community XPTO {

authorization read-only;

logical-system RT30RJO {

routing-instance manager-snmp;

}

}

trap-options {

logical-system RT30RJO {

routing-instance manager-snmp {

source-address 10.251.42.230;

}

}

}

routing-instance-access;

traceoptions {

file debug-snmp;

flag all;

}

{master}[edit]

q...@ixr01rjo# run monitor start debug-snmp


*ERROR*:


{master}[edit]

q...@ixr01rjo#

*** debug-snmp ***

Jun 17 16:35:28 snmpd[5709] 

Jun 17 16:35:28 snmpd[5709]  Get-Next-Request

Jun 17 16:35:28 snmpd[5709]   Source:  10.31.0.236

Jun 17 16:35:28 snmpd[5709]   Destination: 10.251.42.230

Jun 17 16:35:28 snmpd[5709]   Version: SNMPv1

Jun 17 16:35:28 snmpd[5709]   Request_id:  0x5709

Jun 17 16:35:28 snmpd[5709]   Community:   XPTO

Jun 17 16:35:28 snmpd[5709]   Error:   status=0 / vb_index=0

Jun 17 16:35:28 snmpd[5709]OID  : system

Jun 17 16:35:28 snmpd[5709] 

Jun 17 16:35:28 SNMPD_AUTH_RESTRICTED_ADDRESS: nsa_initial_callback: request 
from address 10.31.0.236 not allowed

Jun 17 16:35:28 SNMPD_AUTH_FAILURE: nsa_initial_embedcomm: unauthorized SNMP 
community from 10.31.0.236 to unknown community name (XPTO)

Jun 17 16:35:28 ns_trap_internal

Jun 17 16:35:28 ns_trap_internal

Jun 17 16:35:29 snmpd[5709] 

Jun 17 16:35:29 snmpd[5709]  Get-Next-Request

Jun 17 16:35:29 snmpd[5709]   Source:  10.31.0.236

Jun 17 16:35:29 snmpd[5709]   Destination: 10.251.42.230

Jun 17 16:35:29 snmpd[5709]   Version: SNMPv1

Jun 17 16:35:29 snmpd[5709]   Request_id:  0x5709

Jun 17 16:35:29 snmpd[5709]   Community:   XPTO

Jun 17 16:35:29 snmpd[5709]   Error:   status=0 / vb_index=0

Jun 17 16:35:29 snmpd[5709]OID  : system

Jun 17 16:35:29 snmpd[5709] 

Jun 17 16:35:29 SNMPD_AUTH_RESTRICTED_ADDRESS: nsa_initial_callback: request 
from address 10.31.0.236 not allowed

Jun 17 16:35:29 SNMPD_AUTH_FAILURE: nsa_initial_embedcomm: unauthorized SNMP 
community from 10.31.0.236 to unknown community name (XPTO)

Jun 17 16:35:32 snmpd[5709] 

Jun 17 16:35:32 snmpd[5709]  Get-Next-Request

Jun 17 16:35:32 snmpd[5709]   Source:  10.31.0.236

Jun 17 16:35:32 snmpd[5709]   Destination: 10.251.42.230

Jun 17 16:35:32 snmpd[5709]   Version: SNMPv1

Jun 17 16:35:32 snmpd[5709]   Request_id:  0x5709

Jun 17 16:35:32 snmpd[5709]   Community:   XPTO

Jun 17 16:35:32 snmpd[5709]   Error:   status=0 / vb_index=0

Jun 17 16:35:32 snmpd[5709]OID  : system

Jun 17 16:35:32 snmpd[5709] 

Jun 17 16:35:32 SNMPD_AUTH_RESTRICTED_ADDRESS: nsa_initial_callback: request 
from address 10.31.0.236 not allowed

Jun 17 16:35:32 SNMPD_AUTH_FAILURE: nsa_initial_embedcomm: unauthorized SNMP 
community from 10.31.0.236 to unknown community name (XPTO)


Tranks

Gabriel Farias


2010/6/10 Gabriel Farias gabrielfaria...@gmail.com

 Dear friends,


 I have a router model M10i Junos 9.6R1.13 running and is working with 
 three-logical systems (LS1, LS2 and LS3), I need to manage all logical 
 systems using SNMP, the best way?



 *I am using the command*:



 set snmp community name-community logical-system name-system



 In addition to this command that is needed?



 Thanks,

 Gabriel Farias



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Re: [j-nsp] Logical-Systems Management SNMP

2010-06-17 Thread Dan Farrell
You might also want to try from your server-

# snmpwwalk -c XPTO 10.251.42.230 system


Dan
-Original Message-
From: Dan Farrell 
Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2010 4:39 PM
To: 'Gabriel Farias'; juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net; 
juniper-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net
Subject: RE: [j-nsp] Logical-Systems Management SNMP

# set snmp community XPTO clients 10.31.0.236

Dan

-Original Message-
From: juniper-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net 
[mailto:juniper-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Gabriel Farias
Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2010 4:16 PM
To: juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net; juniper-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net
Subject: Re: [j-nsp] Logical-Systems Management SNMP

Hi friends,

I used the following configuration, but I'm having error and the server 
database can not read the information via snmp.



Do you have any hint of what is happening?

thanks



*Attempting Server*:

sa19rb1:/ # ping 10.251.42.230 -n 4

PING 10.251.42.230: 64 byte packets

64 bytes from 10.251.42.230: icmp_seq=0. time=1. ms

64 bytes from 10.251.42.230: icmp_seq=1. time=1. ms

64 bytes from 10.251.42.230: icmp_seq=2. time=1. ms

64 bytes from 10.251.42.230: icmp_seq=3. time=1. ms

10.251.42.230 PING Statistics

4 packets transmitted, 4 packets received, 0% packet loss

round-trip (ms)  min/avg/max = 1/1/1



sa19rb1:/ # snmpwalk 10.251.42.230 system

snmpwalk: No response arrived before timeout.



*Configure used*

{master}[edit]

q...@ixr01rjo# show snmp

community XPTO {

authorization read-only;

logical-system RT30RJO {

routing-instance manager-snmp;

}

}

trap-options {

logical-system RT30RJO {

routing-instance manager-snmp {

source-address 10.251.42.230;

}

}

}

routing-instance-access;

traceoptions {

file debug-snmp;

flag all;

}

{master}[edit]

q...@ixr01rjo# run monitor start debug-snmp


*ERROR*:


{master}[edit]

q...@ixr01rjo#

*** debug-snmp ***

Jun 17 16:35:28 snmpd[5709] 

Jun 17 16:35:28 snmpd[5709]  Get-Next-Request

Jun 17 16:35:28 snmpd[5709]   Source:  10.31.0.236

Jun 17 16:35:28 snmpd[5709]   Destination: 10.251.42.230

Jun 17 16:35:28 snmpd[5709]   Version: SNMPv1

Jun 17 16:35:28 snmpd[5709]   Request_id:  0x5709

Jun 17 16:35:28 snmpd[5709]   Community:   XPTO

Jun 17 16:35:28 snmpd[5709]   Error:   status=0 / vb_index=0

Jun 17 16:35:28 snmpd[5709]OID  : system

Jun 17 16:35:28 snmpd[5709] 

Jun 17 16:35:28 SNMPD_AUTH_RESTRICTED_ADDRESS: nsa_initial_callback: request 
from address 10.31.0.236 not allowed

Jun 17 16:35:28 SNMPD_AUTH_FAILURE: nsa_initial_embedcomm: unauthorized SNMP 
community from 10.31.0.236 to unknown community name (XPTO)

Jun 17 16:35:28 ns_trap_internal

Jun 17 16:35:28 ns_trap_internal

Jun 17 16:35:29 snmpd[5709] 

Jun 17 16:35:29 snmpd[5709]  Get-Next-Request

Jun 17 16:35:29 snmpd[5709]   Source:  10.31.0.236

Jun 17 16:35:29 snmpd[5709]   Destination: 10.251.42.230

Jun 17 16:35:29 snmpd[5709]   Version: SNMPv1

Jun 17 16:35:29 snmpd[5709]   Request_id:  0x5709

Jun 17 16:35:29 snmpd[5709]   Community:   XPTO

Jun 17 16:35:29 snmpd[5709]   Error:   status=0 / vb_index=0

Jun 17 16:35:29 snmpd[5709]OID  : system

Jun 17 16:35:29 snmpd[5709] 

Jun 17 16:35:29 SNMPD_AUTH_RESTRICTED_ADDRESS: nsa_initial_callback: request 
from address 10.31.0.236 not allowed

Jun 17 16:35:29 SNMPD_AUTH_FAILURE: nsa_initial_embedcomm: unauthorized SNMP 
community from 10.31.0.236 to unknown community name (XPTO)

Jun 17 16:35:32 snmpd[5709] 

Jun 17 16:35:32 snmpd[5709]  Get-Next-Request

Jun 17 16:35:32 snmpd[5709]   Source:  10.31.0.236

Jun 17 16:35:32 snmpd[5709]   Destination: 10.251.42.230

Jun 17 16:35:32 snmpd[5709]   Version: SNMPv1

Jun 17 16:35:32 snmpd[5709]   Request_id:  0x5709

Jun 17 16:35:32 snmpd[5709]   Community:   XPTO

Jun 17 16:35:32 snmpd[5709]   Error:   status=0 / vb_index=0

Jun 17 16:35:32 snmpd[5709]OID  : system

Jun 17 16:35:32 snmpd[5709] 

Jun 17 16:35:32 SNMPD_AUTH_RESTRICTED_ADDRESS: nsa_initial_callback: request 
from address 10.31.0.236 not allowed

Jun 17 16:35:32 SNMPD_AUTH_FAILURE: nsa_initial_embedcomm: unauthorized SNMP 
community from 10.31.0.236 to unknown community name (XPTO)


Tranks

Gabriel Farias


2010/6/10 Gabriel Farias gabrielfaria...@gmail.com

 Dear friends,


 I have a router model M10i Junos 9.6R1.13 running and is working with 
 three-logical systems (LS1, LS2 and LS3), I need to manage all logical 
 systems using SNMP, the best way?



 *I am using the command*:



 set snmp community name-community logical-system name-system



 In addition to this command that is needed?



 Thanks,

 Gabriel Farias



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Re: [j-nsp] ospfv3 - JUNOS sends zero mtu in dbd - stuck in ExStart

2010-06-17 Thread Volker D. Pallas

Hi Daniel,

thank you for your reply.
I've read the RFC now and you're right. I opened a bug report with quagga 
regarding this issue:
https://bugzilla.quagga.net/show_bug.cgi?id=602
OSPFv3 on quagga seems to be a bit buggy in general, I'm still waiting for a 
fix of another
problem (bug #600).

Thanks again and
have a good night,

Volker

On 06/16/10 08:49, Daniel Roesen wrote:
 On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 03:39:47AM +0200, Volker D. Pallas wrote:
 I'm having an issue with an OSPFv3 neighborship between Linux/quagga
 (0.99.16) and JUNOS (10.1R2.8 on SRX-100) via a standard ip-tunnel:
 the dbd info sent by JUNOS always contains mtu 0, which quagga does
 not like at all. This keeps my neighborship in ExStart.

 According to the OSPFv3 spec (RFC2740), JUNOS is correct in sending
 MTU 0 on a tunnel interface:

 Interface MTU
The size in bytes of the largest IPv6 datagram that can be sent
out theassociated interface, without fragmentation.  The MTUs
of common Internet link  types can be found in Table 7-1of
[Ref12]. Interface MTU should be set to 0 in Database Description
packets sent over virtual links.

[...]
 I'd say Quagga is wrong to expect anything else than MTU 0 on a
 tunnel type interface...

 Best regards,
 Daniel

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Re: [j-nsp] ospfv3 - JUNOS sends zero mtu in dbd - stuck in ExStart

2010-06-17 Thread Daniel Roesen
Hi,

On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 10:46:51PM +0200, Volker D. Pallas wrote:
 I've read the RFC now and you're right.

I'm not so sure anymore. A fellow reader has challenged my
interpretation of the RFC wording, that it might mean OSPF virtual
links, not tunnel (and similar virtual, non-physical) interfaces.
Upon re-reading with that interpretation in mind, I tend to agree.

Thinking further about it, mtu=0 for OSPF virtual links makes sense, as
only OSPF PDUs are being tunnelled, no actual traffic. So there is no
sensible MTU to report in the DBD packets. On real tunneling interfaces
though, everything (OSPF PDUs and actual traffic) gets tunnelled, and
the tunnel has a real MTU associated.

So in fact, I think my interpretation was wrong and JUNOS is actually
misbehaving by advertising MTU=0. It should report the tunnel interface
L3 MTU.

Sorry for the noise. I suggest raising a case with JTAC and closing off
the Quagga bug filing.

BTW, I noticed your Linux tunnel interface being named gre-nc - I
guess the gre part is a leftover misnomer from trying GRE encaps?

Best regards from Porz to Porz,
Daniel

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Re: [j-nsp] ospfv3 - JUNOS sends zero mtu in dbd - stuck in ExStart

2010-06-17 Thread Volker D. Pallas

Hi again,

yeah, this makes total sense!
At first I thought this is a JUNOS-problem, as Cisco does send the right mtu 
along.

I closed the bug report on the quagga bugzilla for now (with closed/invalid) 
and will
talk to JTAC.
I'll get back to you and the list as soon as I have some confirmation and/or 
fix.

I'm not so sure anymore. A fellow reader has challenged my
interpretation of the RFC wording, that it might mean OSPF virtual
links, not tunnel (and similar virtual, non-physical) interfaces.
Upon re-reading with that interpretation in mind, I tend to agree.

Thinking further about it, mtu=0 for OSPF virtual links makes sense, as
only OSPF PDUs are being tunnelled, no actual traffic. So there is no
sensible MTU to report in the DBD packets. On real tunneling interfaces
though, everything (OSPF PDUs and actual traffic) gets tunnelled, and
the tunnel has a real MTU associated.

So in fact, I think my interpretation was wrong and JUNOS is actually
misbehaving by advertising MTU=0. It should report the tunnel interface
L3 MTU.

Sorry for the noise. I suggest raising a case with JTAC and closing off
the Quagga bug filing.

No, not at all! Thanks a lot for your input! I did not even read the appropriate
RFC before you posted, which I should do next time.

BTW, I noticed your Linux tunnel interface being named gre-nc - I
guess the gre part is a leftover misnomer from trying GRE encaps?

exactly ;-) It's actually sit now on the linux side

Best regards from Porz to Porz,
Daniel

and best wishes back to you!

Volker
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