[j-nsp] JNCIP-SP latest dumps
Hi Team, Just want to check, if there any one have the latest JNCIP-SP dumps? Because next week i need to attend the exam. Thanks and Regards, ___ juniper-nsp mailing list juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/juniper-nsp
Re: [j-nsp] JNCIP-SP latest dumps
Xu, Just re-read the JNCIP|E Sybex books, if you use dumps to pass an exam it is cheating, devalues the certification and posting this sort of request on a public forum that the Juniper certification team subscribe to is risking having your certifications revoked. It means so much more when you actually study hard and pass based on your own knowledge / merit. -- Graham Brown Twitter - @mountainrescuer https://twitter.com/#!/mountainrescuer LinkedIn http://www.linkedin.com/in/grahamcbrown On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 9:08 AM, Xu Hu jstuxuhu0...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Team, Just want to check, if there any one have the latest JNCIP-SP dumps? Because next week i need to attend the exam. Thanks and Regards, ___ juniper-nsp mailing list juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/juniper-nsp ___ juniper-nsp mailing list juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/juniper-nsp
Re: [j-nsp] JNCIP-SP latest dumps
Ok, boss, noted. Lol 2012/3/30 Graham Brown juniper-...@grahambrown.info Xu, Just re-read the JNCIP|E Sybex books, if you use dumps to pass an exam it is cheating, devalues the certification and posting this sort of request on a public forum that the Juniper certification team subscribe to is risking having your certifications revoked. It means so much more when you actually study hard and pass based on your own knowledge / merit. -- Graham Brown Twitter - @mountainrescuer https://twitter.com/#!/mountainrescuer LinkedIn http://www.linkedin.com/in/grahamcbrown On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 9:08 AM, Xu Hu jstuxuhu0...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Team, Just want to check, if there any one have the latest JNCIP-SP dumps? Because next week i need to attend the exam. Thanks and Regards, ___ juniper-nsp mailing list juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/juniper-nsp ___ juniper-nsp mailing list juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/juniper-nsp
Re: [j-nsp] JNCIP-SP latest dumps
I'm with Graham. Sack up and have some integrity, learn the material, and take the test pass or fail. From: Xu Hu jstuxuhu0...@gmail.com To: Graham Brown juniper-...@grahambrown.info Cc: juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net Sent: Friday, March 30, 2012 3:08 AM Subject: Re: [j-nsp] JNCIP-SP latest dumps Ok, boss, noted. Lol 2012/3/30 Graham Brown juniper-...@grahambrown.info Xu, Just re-read the JNCIP|E Sybex books, if you use dumps to pass an exam it is cheating, devalues the certification and posting this sort of request on a public forum that the Juniper certification team subscribe to is risking having your certifications revoked. It means so much more when you actually study hard and pass based on your own knowledge / merit. -- Graham Brown Twitter - @mountainrescuer https://twitter.com/#!/mountainrescuer LinkedIn http://www.linkedin.com/in/grahamcbrown On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 9:08 AM, Xu Hu jstuxuhu0...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Team, Just want to check, if there any one have the latest JNCIP-SP dumps? Because next week i need to attend the exam. Thanks and Regards, ___ juniper-nsp mailing list juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/juniper-nsp ___ juniper-nsp mailing list juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/juniper-nsp ___ juniper-nsp mailing list juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/juniper-nsp
Re: [j-nsp] console switch to access juniper devices
Sachin, I believe you have several options available and haven't heard of many (if any) compatibility issues. We currently use Cyclades in our environment but have also used Cisco in the past. Jared From: Sachin Rai sachinrai1...@hotmail.com To: Juniper nsp juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net Sent: Friday, March 30, 2012 5:40 AM Subject: [j-nsp] console switch to access juniper devices Hi Team, I want to buy a console server and wanted to know, what are the available console servers compatible with Juniper devices. thanks Sachin ___ juniper-nsp mailing list juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/juniper-nsp ___ juniper-nsp mailing list juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/juniper-nsp
Re: [j-nsp] console switch to access juniper devices
On 30/03/12 13:10, Jared Gull wrote: Sachin, I believe you have several options available and haven't heard of many (if any) compatibility issues. We currently use Cyclades in our environment but have also used Cisco in the past. We use Lantronix SLC without problems. However: for info, I'll mention a problem we did have trying to use the CON (as opposed to AUX) port on small site ADSL/out-of-band routers as pass-thru console. Because Juniper REs tend to be PC-based hardware with BIOS-over-serial, you need to ensure that your console device won't output any characters, particularly whilst the Juniper is booting. We tried to save money and use the CON port on these small Cisco routers, but this failed during power outages - when power came back, the small Cisco outputs boot messages on CON, and the Juniper sees the keystrokes and interprets one or more of them as stop booting. Now - obviously this is our fault. However, I mention it because: 1. It was character data, not a BREAK, that caused the boot to stop 2. Some devices may output data/brk on bootup HTH ___ juniper-nsp mailing list juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/juniper-nsp
Re: [j-nsp] JNCIP-SP latest dumps
On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 05:03:54AM -0700, Jared Gull wrote: I'm with Graham. Sack up and have some integrity, learn the material, and take the test pass or fail. of course this is true generally, but the exams are not always very compatible with practical networking experience. Srsly, you need to know every property of every OSPF LSA type or STP BPDU by heart? That's what the Internet is for... I did JNCIS the old-skool way and it was a lot of grinding useless information that I've forgotten again already... rgds, s. ___ juniper-nsp mailing list juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/juniper-nsp
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Re: [j-nsp] JNCIP-SP latest dumps
I am not saying braindumps are good at all, but... What engineer when architecting/building/supporting a solution doesn't have access to the internet or reference tools? I architect all day long and the Juniper and Cisco websites are my bible for product knowledge, features, part numbers, etc etc. It is like an electrician or plumber without their tools... absolutely useless. I would like to see exams include man pages, or at least an approved reference book that would let you look up obscure crap you almost never need to know off the top of your head. Binary-Hex-Decimal math... bullshit, I can't believe we're not able to use even a calculator these days... even highschool exams allow calculators! *Skeeve Stevens, CEO* eintellego Pty Ltd ske...@eintellego.net ; www.eintellego.net http://www.eintellego.net.au Phone: 1300 753 383 ; Fax: (+612) 8572 9954 Cell +61 (0)414 753 383 ; skype://skeeve facebook.com/eintellego twitter.com/networkceoau ; www.linkedin.com/in/skeeve PO Box 7726, Baulkham Hills, NSW 1755 Australia The Experts Who The Experts Call Juniper - Cisco – Brocade - IBM On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 23:25, Sascha Luck li...@c4inet.net wrote: On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 05:03:54AM -0700, Jared Gull wrote: I'm with Graham. Sack up and have some integrity, learn the material, and take the test pass or fail. of course this is true generally, but the exams are not always very compatible with practical networking experience. Srsly, you need to know every property of every OSPF LSA type or STP BPDU by heart? That's what the Internet is for... I did JNCIS the old-skool way and it was a lot of grinding useless information that I've forgotten again already... rgds, s. __**_ juniper-nsp mailing list juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/**mailman/listinfo/juniper-nsphttps://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/juniper-nsp ___ juniper-nsp mailing list juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/juniper-nsp
Re: [j-nsp] JNCIP-SP latest dumps
On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 11:59:35PM +1100, Skeeve Stevens wrote: I would like to see exams include man pages, or at least an approved reference book that would let you look up obscure crap you almost never need to know off the top of your head. The labs actually do include full access to the documentation, since memorization of obscure commands isn't really the goal of the test. The prometric exams are a bit more limited of course, due to the shared testing environment, but they're a lot simpler too. FWIW I personally think the new -SP exams are complete and utter crap compared to the classic -M exams, or at least the JNCIP-SP that I took to renew my JNCIE was at any rate... They're far more Cisco-like these days, full of totally useless questions, poor grammar, and ambiguous or even flat out incorrect answers, so plan accordingly. :( Binary-Hex-Decimal math... bullshit, I can't believe we're not able to use even a calculator these days... even highschool exams allow calculators! I don't remember any of this on any Juniper exams I've ever taken, but if you can't do simple binary-hex-decimal math you have bigger problems. :) -- Richard A Steenbergen r...@e-gerbil.net http://www.e-gerbil.net/ras GPG Key ID: 0xF8B12CBC (7535 7F59 8204 ED1F CC1C 53AF 4C41 5ECA F8B1 2CBC) ___ juniper-nsp mailing list juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/juniper-nsp
Re: [j-nsp] Add colors to JUNOS EOL page
Excellent.. Thanks.. On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 1:45 PM, Gojko Vujovic go...@gojkovujovic.comwrote: You guys may find this useful, so I thought I would share this. It is a user-side javascript I created that adds colors to the standard JUNOS EOL page: http://www.juniper.net/**support/eol/junos.htmlhttp://www.juniper.net/support/eol/junos.html Screenshot of what it does once you install it: http://img84.imageshack.us/**img84/2421/20120329105330.pnghttp://img84.imageshack.us/img84/2421/20120329105330.png Green - still supported, Orange - EOE reached, Red - unsupported To install in Firefox: 1. Install Greasemonkey addon (to be able to run user-side javascript): https://addons.mozilla.org/en-**US/firefox/addon/greasemonkey/https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/greasemonkey/ Restart firefox. 2. Install the script (install button in the top right corner): http://userscripts.org/**scripts/show/129540http://userscripts.org/scripts/show/129540 To install it in Chrome, skip step #1, greasemonkey is not needed. Just go and install the script. Let me know if you like it (or not)... -Gojko __**_ juniper-nsp mailing list juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/**mailman/listinfo/juniper-nsphttps://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/juniper-nsp ___ juniper-nsp mailing list juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/juniper-nsp
Re: [j-nsp] JNCIP-SP latest dumps
On Fri Mar 30 18:24:39 2012, Richard A Steenbergen wrote: FWIW I personally think the new -SP exams are complete and utter crap compared to the classic -M exams, or at least the JNCIP-SP that I took to renew my JNCIE was at any rate... They're far more Cisco-like these days, full of totally useless questions, poor grammar, and ambiguous or even flat out incorrect answers, so plan accordingly. :( Dumps aside, most training outfits give a couple of sample exams - they're one of the few ways you can get a feel for the actual exam plus evaluate your own level of preparedness. -- patrick signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ juniper-nsp mailing list juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/juniper-nsp
Re: [j-nsp] console switch to access juniper devices
Recently (within past 2 years) did a eval of console servers. I was pretty impressed with OpenGear. I will note I wasn't trying them with Juniper devices, but I'm sure it will work fine. In the end, we went with Avocent mainly because they could control pin-out via software and other vendors required special cabling for each device type. Avocent devices themselves are slow as snot. But the pin-out control was the deciding factor in the end. -M On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 4:40 AM, Sachin Rai sachinrai1...@hotmail.com wrote: Hi Team, I want to buy a console server and wanted to know, what are the available console servers compatible with Juniper devices. thanks Sachin ___ juniper-nsp mailing list juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/juniper-nsp ___ juniper-nsp mailing list juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/juniper-nsp
Re: [j-nsp] JNCIP-SP latest dumps
On Mar 30, 2012, at 11:53 AM, Patrick Okui wrote: Dumps aside, most training outfits give a couple of sample exams - they're one of the few ways you can get a feel for the actual exam plus evaluate your own level of preparedness. and there are practice exams available for this, and other, Juniper exams. http://www.juniper.net/us/en/training/certification/service_provider_track.html --Stacy ___ juniper-nsp mailing list juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/juniper-nsp
[j-nsp] Qos on branch SRX
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Dear all, I just wonder if I missed something or I just look in the wrong direction: I would like to have some QoS stuff on a SRX100, and if I trust http://www.juniper.net/techpubs/en_US/junos12.1/information-products/topic-collections/security/software-all/feature-support-reference/index.html almost any features are there. But it seems I neither have classes (ingress or egress) on vlan-interfaces nor on pp interfaces, eg. te@gw.ber2 show interfaces queue pp0 Egress queue statistics are not applicable to this interface. Maybe I am stuck with the concept, but how do I achieve to control traffic leaving a pp0 interface? I have some DSL with PPPoE on this box and would like to prioritize ssh. Any tips? Thanks, Tom -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk92DccACgkQrUvjMoak8Zdp9ACfe5EYmLEciNbIv+Nr/6a6pbmY /mIAn0FL0yIKe9ljEVOEyX2WIln63Vq/ =xSUg -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ juniper-nsp mailing list juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/juniper-nsp
Re: [j-nsp] Qos on branch SRX
1. Apply the QoS schedulers/queues to the at-1/0/0 interface that has the ppp session. (Since the 'ppp' interface isn't real). Queues are generally only associated with the physical interface hardware. This is what we do for our managed xDSL connections: class-of-service { interfaces { at-1/0/0 { scheduler-map QoS; } } } show interfaces queue at-1/0/0 Physical interface: at-1/0/0, Enabled, Physical link is Up Interface index: 146, SNMP ifIndex: 527 Description: ADSL 2+ Annex M - 20M/3M Forwarding classes: 8 supported, 4 in use Egress queues: 8 supported, 4 in use 2. VLANs - Not quite sure what you're after here. a 'vlan.xxx' interface isn't physical either. (see #1 above) It's only if the L2 VLAN associated with the L3 vlan.xxx interface egresses the box on a physical port would you place your queues. i.e. fe-0/0/2, fe-0/0/3 etc.. class-of-service { interfaces { fe-* { scheduler-map QoS; } ge-* { scheduler-map QoS; } } } - CK. On 2012-03-31, at 6:47 AM, Thomas Eichhorn wrote: But it seems I neither have classes (ingress or egress) on vlan-interfaces nor on pp interfaces, eg. te@gw.ber2 show interfaces queue pp0 Egress queue statistics are not applicable to this interface. Maybe I am stuck with the concept, but how do I achieve to control traffic leaving a pp0 interface? I have some DSL with PPPoE on this box and would like to prioritize ssh. Any tips? ___ juniper-nsp mailing list juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/juniper-nsp
Re: [j-nsp] console switch to access juniper devices
On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 11:50 AM, Matt Hite li...@beatmixed.com wrote: Recently (within past 2 years) did a eval of console servers. I was pretty impressed with OpenGear. I will note I wasn't trying them with Juniper devices, but I'm sure it will work fine. In the end, we went with Avocent mainly because they could control pin-out via software and other vendors required special cabling for each device type. Avocent devices themselves are slow as snot. But the pin-out control was the deciding factor in the end. -M On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 4:40 AM, Sachin Rai sachinrai1...@hotmail.com wrote: Hi Team, I want to buy a console server and wanted to know, what are the available console servers compatible with Juniper devices. thanks Sachin ___ juniper-nsp mailing list juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/juniper-nsp ___ juniper-nsp mailing list juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/juniper-nsp We went with OpenGear, it is inexpensive and has all the features we need. Pretty solid boxes -- Brent Jones br...@brentrjones.com ___ juniper-nsp mailing list juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/juniper-nsp
Re: [j-nsp] console switch to access juniper devices
I second (or third :) ) OpenGear. We have about a dozen or so of the 48 port models with Cisco pinout. 90+% of all devices are either a straight through or rollover cable. With silver satin cable, easy peasy. We have hundreds of EX switches and dozens of MX routers behind them without any problems at all. -Scott On Mar 30, 2012, at 6:26 PM, Brent Jones wrote: On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 11:50 AM, Matt Hite li...@beatmixed.com wrote: Recently (within past 2 years) did a eval of console servers. I was pretty impressed with OpenGear. I will note I wasn't trying them with Juniper devices, but I'm sure it will work fine. In the end, we went with Avocent mainly because they could control pin-out via software and other vendors required special cabling for each device type. Avocent devices themselves are slow as snot. But the pin-out control was the deciding factor in the end. -M On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 4:40 AM, Sachin Rai sachinrai1...@hotmail.com wrote: Hi Team, I want to buy a console server and wanted to know, what are the available console servers compatible with Juniper devices. thanks Sachin ___ juniper-nsp mailing list juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/juniper-nsp ___ juniper-nsp mailing list juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/juniper-nsp We went with OpenGear, it is inexpensive and has all the features we need. Pretty solid boxes -- Brent Jones br...@brentrjones.com ___ juniper-nsp mailing list juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/juniper-nsp ___ juniper-nsp mailing list juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/juniper-nsp
Re: [j-nsp] console switch to access juniper devices
Digi work pretty well. No need for the dongle. On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 7:38 PM, Alexander Frolkin a...@eldamar.org.ukwrote: We went with OpenGear, it is inexpensive and has all the features we need. We also went with OpenGear. Another advantage is that the company is very responsive to queries and feature requests. They implemented several features for us (in a matter of weeks --- with any other company this would probably have taken years) and they're now in the production release. As far as I understand, they also allow you to put custom firmware on their boxes without voiding the warranty (although we were pretty happy with the OpenGear firmware). Alex ___ juniper-nsp mailing list juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/juniper-nsp ___ juniper-nsp mailing list juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/juniper-nsp
Re: [j-nsp] JNCIP-SP latest dumps
I am not saying braindumps are good at all, but... What engineer when architecting/building/supporting a solution doesn't have access to the internet or reference tools? I'd hazard a guess that neither Dodo or Telstra engineers were able to google for help last month : P It's Junos - you have the entire command reference built into the OS When you know exactly what you're looking for - help reference ... When you only have a rough idea what you're looking for help apropos ... When you have no idea what you're looking for, make a mental note of areas to study for next time. If you are walking into a JNCIE-anything exam not knowing these things already, then you're probably not ready to be sitting it. You also have the PDFs of the Junos manuals available to you. I architect all day long and the Juniper and Cisco websites are my bible for product knowledge, features, part numbers, etc etc. These exams aren't designed for architects, they're for hands-on engineers - people who need to be able to think under pressure and manage their time while have a good grasp of the operating system and fundamental protocols. The exam won't ask you to design anything, much less ask for a bill of materials and a quote - the boxes are in place, pre-cabled and physically inaccessible. It is like an electrician or plumber without their tools... absolutely useless. I'm going to strongly disagree with you here - if I was paying an expert-level engineer to urgently fix an issue on my network and they needed anything more than a terminal app, a console cable and a network diagram, I'd be looking elsewhere. I would like to see exams include man pages, or at least an approved reference book that would let you look up obscure crap you almost never need to know off the top of your head. See above Binary-Hex-Decimal math... bullshit, I can't believe we're not able to use even a calculator these days... even highschool exams allow calculators! The last exam I saw with any sort of conversion on it was the JNCIA-JUNOS - these are fundamentals every network person should be taught, no exceptions. Ben On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 23:25, Sascha Luck li...@c4inet.net wrote: On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 05:03:54AM -0700, Jared Gull wrote: I'm with Graham. Sack up and have some integrity, learn the material, and take the test pass or fail. of course this is true generally, but the exams are not always very compatible with practical networking experience. Srsly, you need to know every property of every OSPF LSA type or STP BPDU by heart? That's what the Internet is for... I did JNCIS the old-skool way and it was a lot of grinding useless information that I've forgotten again already... rgds, s. __**_ juniper-nsp mailing list juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/**mailman/listinfo/juniper-nsphttps://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/juniper-nsp ___ juniper-nsp mailing list juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/juniper-nsp ___ juniper-nsp mailing list juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/juniper-nsp
Re: [j-nsp] JNCIP-SP latest dumps
Please not reply this post again, since I had already got the warning from Juniper. Thanks and regards, Xu Hu On 31 Mar, 2012, at 12:33, Ben Dale bd...@comlinx.com.au wrote: I am not saying braindumps are good at all, but... What engineer when architecting/building/supporting a solution doesn't have access to the internet or reference tools? I'd hazard a guess that neither Dodo or Telstra engineers were able to google for help last month : P It's Junos - you have the entire command reference built into the OS When you know exactly what you're looking for - help reference ... When you only have a rough idea what you're looking for help apropos ... When you have no idea what you're looking for, make a mental note of areas to study for next time. If you are walking into a JNCIE-anything exam not knowing these things already, then you're probably not ready to be sitting it. You also have the PDFs of the Junos manuals available to you. I architect all day long and the Juniper and Cisco websites are my bible for product knowledge, features, part numbers, etc etc. These exams aren't designed for architects, they're for hands-on engineers - people who need to be able to think under pressure and manage their time while have a good grasp of the operating system and fundamental protocols. The exam won't ask you to design anything, much less ask for a bill of materials and a quote - the boxes are in place, pre-cabled and physically inaccessible. It is like an electrician or plumber without their tools... absolutely useless. I'm going to strongly disagree with you here - if I was paying an expert-level engineer to urgently fix an issue on my network and they needed anything more than a terminal app, a console cable and a network diagram, I'd be looking elsewhere. I would like to see exams include man pages, or at least an approved reference book that would let you look up obscure crap you almost never need to know off the top of your head. See above Binary-Hex-Decimal math... bullshit, I can't believe we're not able to use even a calculator these days... even highschool exams allow calculators! The last exam I saw with any sort of conversion on it was the JNCIA-JUNOS - these are fundamentals every network person should be taught, no exceptions. Ben On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 23:25, Sascha Luck li...@c4inet.net wrote: On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 05:03:54AM -0700, Jared Gull wrote: I'm with Graham. Sack up and have some integrity, learn the material, and take the test pass or fail. of course this is true generally, but the exams are not always very compatible with practical networking experience. Srsly, you need to know every property of every OSPF LSA type or STP BPDU by heart? That's what the Internet is for... I did JNCIS the old-skool way and it was a lot of grinding useless information that I've forgotten again already... rgds, s. __**_ juniper-nsp mailing list juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/**mailman/listinfo/juniper-nsphttps://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/juniper-nsp ___ juniper-nsp mailing list juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/juniper-nsp ___ juniper-nsp mailing list juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/juniper-nsp ___ juniper-nsp mailing list juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/juniper-nsp
Re: [j-nsp] JNCIP-SP latest dumps
And because high school exams allows calculators explains why people can't figure out how to make change today after hitting the wrong keys on the cash register... Because the education system in general is catering to the lowest common denominator doesn't mean that a certification exam needs to. Let's see how exciting that is when you figure our that your doctor passed his/her boards because WebMD was there to help on those difficult things that are more obscure. An electrician who doesn't understand amperage, or a plumber who doesn't understand water flow... Absolutely useless. Are you telling me that the experts who the experts call don't understand fundamental mathematical concepts, or can't do this stuff off the top of their heads? Is there stuff you don't use every day? Perhaps. I suppose that depends on what you do. If you work in an IS-IS world, then correct, you could care less about OSPF LSAs. Learn it. It's a multiple choice exam, so statistically, even a monkey has a chance of passing. In theory, that should be higher if you understand things. My two cents for the day. (or 3.5 in case the register failed) ;) *Scott Morris*, CCIE/x4/ (RS/ISP-Dial/Security/Service Provider) #4713, CCDE #2009::D, CCNP-Voice, JNCIE-SP #153, JNCIE-ER #102, CISSP, et al. CCSI #21903, JNCI-SP, JNCI-ER s...@emanon.com Knowledge is power. Power corrupts. Study hard and be Eeeevl.. On 3/30/12 8:59 AM, Skeeve Stevens wrote: I am not saying braindumps are good at all, but... What engineer when architecting/building/supporting a solution doesn't have access to the internet or reference tools? I architect all day long and the Juniper and Cisco websites are my bible for product knowledge, features, part numbers, etc etc. It is like an electrician or plumber without their tools... absolutely useless. I would like to see exams include man pages, or at least an approved reference book that would let you look up obscure crap you almost never need to know off the top of your head. Binary-Hex-Decimal math... bullshit, I can't believe we're not able to use even a calculator these days... even highschool exams allow calculators! *Skeeve Stevens, CEO* eintellego Pty Ltd ske...@eintellego.net ; www.eintellego.net http://www.eintellego.net.au Phone: 1300 753 383 ; Fax: (+612) 8572 9954 Cell +61 (0)414 753 383 ; skype://skeeve facebook.com/eintellego twitter.com/networkceoau ; www.linkedin.com/in/skeeve PO Box 7726, Baulkham Hills, NSW 1755 Australia The Experts Who The Experts Call Juniper - Cisco – Brocade - IBM On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 23:25, Sascha Luck li...@c4inet.net wrote: On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 05:03:54AM -0700, Jared Gull wrote: I'm with Graham. Sack up and have some integrity, learn the material, and take the test pass or fail. of course this is true generally, but the exams are not always very compatible with practical networking experience. Srsly, you need to know every property of every OSPF LSA type or STP BPDU by heart? That's what the Internet is for... I did JNCIS the old-skool way and it was a lot of grinding useless information that I've forgotten again already... rgds, s. __**_ juniper-nsp mailing list juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/**mailman/listinfo/juniper-nsphttps://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/juniper-nsp ___ juniper-nsp mailing list juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/juniper-nsp ___ juniper-nsp mailing list juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/juniper-nsp
[j-nsp] Best way to detect abnormal traffic without enabling security?
Hi, I am currently using a pair of J2350 exporting about 200+ /32 BGP route to my peer, and I'm been hit by DDOS several times, the hardest part for me is to figure out which IP was getting the DDOS and deactivate that route, which will de-announce that route to my peer. However I have no established method right now to figure out which IP is getting DDOSed, so I am hoping somebody can pass along some sampling or dump method to quickly identify toublesome dst ip. Thanks! ___ juniper-nsp mailing list juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/juniper-nsp