[j-nsp] JNCIP-SP latest dumps

2012-03-30 Thread Xu Hu
Hi Team,
Just want to check, if there any one have the latest JNCIP-SP dumps?
Because next week i need to attend the exam.

Thanks and Regards,
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Re: [j-nsp] JNCIP-SP latest dumps

2012-03-30 Thread Graham Brown
Xu,

Just re-read the JNCIP|E Sybex books, if you use dumps to pass an exam it
is cheating, devalues the certification and posting this sort of request on
a public forum that the Juniper certification team subscribe to is risking
having your certifications revoked.

It means so much more when you actually study hard and pass based on your
own knowledge / merit.
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On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 9:08 AM, Xu Hu jstuxuhu0...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Team,
 Just want to check, if there any one have the latest JNCIP-SP dumps?
 Because next week i need to attend the exam.

 Thanks and Regards,
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Re: [j-nsp] JNCIP-SP latest dumps

2012-03-30 Thread Xu Hu
Ok, boss, noted. Lol

2012/3/30 Graham Brown juniper-...@grahambrown.info

 Xu,

 Just re-read the JNCIP|E Sybex books, if you use dumps to pass an exam it
 is cheating, devalues the certification and posting this sort of request on
 a public forum that the Juniper certification team subscribe to is risking
 having your certifications revoked.

 It means so much more when you actually study hard and pass based on your
 own knowledge / merit.
 --
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Re: [j-nsp] JNCIP-SP latest dumps

2012-03-30 Thread Jared Gull
I'm with Graham. Sack up and have some integrity, learn the material, and take 
the test pass or fail.




 From: Xu Hu jstuxuhu0...@gmail.com
To: Graham Brown juniper-...@grahambrown.info 
Cc: juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net 
Sent: Friday, March 30, 2012 3:08 AM
Subject: Re: [j-nsp] JNCIP-SP latest dumps
 
Ok, boss, noted. Lol

2012/3/30 Graham Brown juniper-...@grahambrown.info

 Xu,

 Just re-read the JNCIP|E Sybex books, if you use dumps to pass an exam it
 is cheating, devalues the certification and posting this sort of request on
 a public forum that the Juniper certification team subscribe to is risking
 having your certifications revoked.

 It means so much more when you actually study hard and pass based on your
 own knowledge / merit.
 --
 Graham Brown
 Twitter - @mountainrescuer https://twitter.com/#!/mountainrescuer
 LinkedIn http://www.linkedin.com/in/grahamcbrown

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Re: [j-nsp] console switch to access juniper devices

2012-03-30 Thread Jared Gull
Sachin,

I believe you have several options available and haven't heard of many (if any) 
compatibility issues. We currently use Cyclades in our environment but have 
also used Cisco in the past.

Jared




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To: Juniper nsp juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net 
Sent: Friday, March 30, 2012 5:40 AM
Subject: [j-nsp] console switch to access juniper devices
 

Hi Team,

I want to buy a console server and wanted to know, what are the available 
console servers compatible with Juniper devices.

thanks
Sachin
                          
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Re: [j-nsp] console switch to access juniper devices

2012-03-30 Thread Phil Mayers

On 30/03/12 13:10, Jared Gull wrote:

Sachin,

I believe you have several options available and haven't heard of
many (if any) compatibility issues. We currently use Cyclades in our
environment but have also used Cisco in the past.


We use Lantronix SLC without problems.

However: for info, I'll mention a problem we did have trying to use the 
CON (as opposed to AUX) port on small site ADSL/out-of-band routers as 
pass-thru console.


Because Juniper REs tend to be PC-based hardware with BIOS-over-serial, 
you need to ensure that your console device won't output any characters, 
particularly whilst the Juniper is booting.


We tried to save money and use the CON port on these small Cisco 
routers, but this failed during power outages - when power came back, 
the small Cisco outputs boot messages on CON, and the Juniper sees the 
keystrokes and interprets one or more of them as stop booting.


Now - obviously this is our fault. However, I mention it because:

 1. It was character data, not a BREAK, that caused the boot to stop
 2. Some devices may output data/brk on bootup

HTH
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Re: [j-nsp] JNCIP-SP latest dumps

2012-03-30 Thread Sascha Luck

On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 05:03:54AM -0700, Jared Gull wrote:
I'm with Graham. Sack up and have some integrity, learn the 
material, and take the test pass or fail.


of course this is true generally, but the exams are not always
very compatible with practical networking experience. 
Srsly, you need to know every property of every OSPF LSA type 
or STP BPDU by heart? That's what the Internet is for...
I did JNCIS the old-skool way and it was a lot of grinding 
useless information that I've forgotten again already...


rgds,
s.
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Re: [j-nsp] JNCIP-SP latest dumps

2012-03-30 Thread Skeeve Stevens
I am not saying braindumps are good at all, but...

What engineer when architecting/building/supporting a solution doesn't have
access to the internet or reference tools?

I architect all day long and the Juniper and Cisco websites are my bible
for product knowledge, features, part numbers, etc etc.

It is like an electrician or plumber without their tools... absolutely
useless.

I would like to see exams include man pages, or at least an approved
reference book that would let you look up obscure crap you almost never
need to know off the top of your head.

Binary-Hex-Decimal math... bullshit, I can't believe we're not able to
use even a calculator these days... even highschool exams allow calculators!

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On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 23:25, Sascha Luck li...@c4inet.net wrote:

 On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 05:03:54AM -0700, Jared Gull wrote:

 I'm with Graham. Sack up and have some integrity, learn the material, and
 take the test pass or fail.


 of course this is true generally, but the exams are not always
 very compatible with practical networking experience. Srsly, you need to
 know every property of every OSPF LSA type or STP BPDU by heart? That's
 what the Internet is for...
 I did JNCIS the old-skool way and it was a lot of grinding useless
 information that I've forgotten again already...

 rgds,
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Re: [j-nsp] JNCIP-SP latest dumps

2012-03-30 Thread Richard A Steenbergen
On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 11:59:35PM +1100, Skeeve Stevens wrote:
 
 I would like to see exams include man pages, or at least an approved 
 reference book that would let you look up obscure crap you almost 
 never need to know off the top of your head.

The labs actually do include full access to the documentation, since 
memorization of obscure commands isn't really the goal of the test. The 
prometric exams are a bit more limited of course, due to the shared 
testing environment, but they're a lot simpler too. FWIW I personally 
think the new -SP exams are complete and utter crap compared to the 
classic -M exams, or at least the JNCIP-SP that I took to renew my JNCIE 
was at any rate... They're far more Cisco-like these days, full of 
totally useless questions, poor grammar, and ambiguous or even flat out 
incorrect answers, so plan accordingly. :(

 Binary-Hex-Decimal math... bullshit, I can't believe we're not 
 able to use even a calculator these days... even highschool exams 
 allow calculators!

I don't remember any of this on any Juniper exams I've ever taken, but 
if you can't do simple binary-hex-decimal math you have bigger 
problems. :)

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Re: [j-nsp] Add colors to JUNOS EOL page

2012-03-30 Thread Nergi Mundo
Excellent.. Thanks..

On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 1:45 PM, Gojko Vujovic go...@gojkovujovic.comwrote:

 You guys may find this useful, so I thought I would share this. It is a
 user-side javascript I created that adds colors to the standard JUNOS EOL
 page:

 http://www.juniper.net/**support/eol/junos.htmlhttp://www.juniper.net/support/eol/junos.html

 Screenshot of what it does once you install it:
 http://img84.imageshack.us/**img84/2421/20120329105330.pnghttp://img84.imageshack.us/img84/2421/20120329105330.png

 Green - still supported, Orange - EOE reached, Red - unsupported

 To install in Firefox:

 1. Install Greasemonkey addon (to be able to run user-side javascript):
 https://addons.mozilla.org/en-**US/firefox/addon/greasemonkey/https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/greasemonkey/
 Restart firefox.

 2. Install the script (install button in the top right corner):
 http://userscripts.org/**scripts/show/129540http://userscripts.org/scripts/show/129540

 To install it in Chrome, skip step #1, greasemonkey is not needed. Just go
 and install the script.

 Let me know if you like it (or not)...

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Re: [j-nsp] JNCIP-SP latest dumps

2012-03-30 Thread Patrick Okui
On Fri Mar 30 18:24:39 2012, Richard A Steenbergen wrote:
 FWIW I personally
 think the new -SP exams are complete and utter crap compared to the
 classic -M exams, or at least the JNCIP-SP that I took to renew my JNCIE
 was at any rate... They're far more Cisco-like these days, full of
 totally useless questions, poor grammar, and ambiguous or even flat out
 incorrect answers, so plan accordingly. :(

Dumps aside, most training outfits give a couple of sample exams - 
they're one of the few ways you can get a feel for the actual exam plus 
evaluate your own level of preparedness.

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Re: [j-nsp] console switch to access juniper devices

2012-03-30 Thread Matt Hite
Recently (within past 2 years) did a eval of console servers. I was
pretty impressed with OpenGear. I will note I wasn't trying them with
Juniper devices, but I'm sure it will work fine.

In the end, we went with Avocent mainly because they could control
pin-out via software and other vendors required special cabling for
each device type. Avocent devices themselves are slow as snot. But the
pin-out control was the deciding factor in the end.

-M

On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 4:40 AM, Sachin Rai sachinrai1...@hotmail.com wrote:

 Hi Team,

 I want to buy a console server and wanted to know, what are the available 
 console servers compatible with Juniper devices.

 thanks
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Re: [j-nsp] JNCIP-SP latest dumps

2012-03-30 Thread Stacy W. Smith
On Mar 30, 2012, at 11:53 AM, Patrick Okui wrote:
 Dumps aside, most training outfits give a couple of sample exams - 
 they're one of the few ways you can get a feel for the actual exam plus 
 evaluate your own level of preparedness.

and there are practice exams available for this, and other, Juniper exams.

http://www.juniper.net/us/en/training/certification/service_provider_track.html

--Stacy


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[j-nsp] Qos on branch SRX

2012-03-30 Thread Thomas Eichhorn
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Dear all,

I just wonder if I missed something or I just look in the wrong
direction: I would like to have some QoS stuff on a SRX100, and
if I trust
http://www.juniper.net/techpubs/en_US/junos12.1/information-products/topic-collections/security/software-all/feature-support-reference/index.html
almost any features are there.

But it seems I neither have classes (ingress or egress) on
vlan-interfaces nor on pp interfaces, eg.

te@gw.ber2 show interfaces queue pp0
Egress queue statistics are not applicable to this interface.

Maybe I am stuck with the concept, but how do I achieve to control
traffic leaving a pp0 interface? I have some DSL with PPPoE on this box
and would like to prioritize ssh.

Any tips?

Thanks,
Tom
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Re: [j-nsp] Qos on branch SRX

2012-03-30 Thread Chris Kawchuk
1. Apply the QoS schedulers/queues to the at-1/0/0 interface that has the ppp 
session. (Since the 'ppp' interface isn't real).
Queues are generally only associated with the physical interface hardware. This 
is what we do for our managed xDSL connections:

class-of-service {
  interfaces {
at-1/0/0 {
scheduler-map QoS;
}
  }
}

 show interfaces queue at-1/0/0 
Physical interface: at-1/0/0, Enabled, Physical link is Up
  Interface index: 146, SNMP ifIndex: 527
  Description: ADSL 2+ Annex M - 20M/3M
Forwarding classes: 8 supported, 4 in use
Egress queues: 8 supported, 4 in use


2. VLANs - Not quite sure what you're after here. a 'vlan.xxx' interface isn't 
physical either. (see #1 above)
It's only if the L2 VLAN associated with the L3 vlan.xxx interface egresses the 
box on a physical port would you place your queues.
i.e. fe-0/0/2, fe-0/0/3 etc..

class-of-service {
  interfaces {
fe-* {
scheduler-map QoS;
}
ge-* {
scheduler-map QoS;
}
  }
}

- CK.


On 2012-03-31, at 6:47 AM, Thomas Eichhorn wrote:

 
 But it seems I neither have classes (ingress or egress) on
 vlan-interfaces nor on pp interfaces, eg.
 
 te@gw.ber2 show interfaces queue pp0
 Egress queue statistics are not applicable to this interface.
 
 Maybe I am stuck with the concept, but how do I achieve to control
 traffic leaving a pp0 interface? I have some DSL with PPPoE on this box
 and would like to prioritize ssh.
 
 Any tips?
 


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Re: [j-nsp] console switch to access juniper devices

2012-03-30 Thread Brent Jones
On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 11:50 AM, Matt Hite li...@beatmixed.com wrote:

 Recently (within past 2 years) did a eval of console servers. I was
 pretty impressed with OpenGear. I will note I wasn't trying them with
 Juniper devices, but I'm sure it will work fine.

 In the end, we went with Avocent mainly because they could control
 pin-out via software and other vendors required special cabling for
 each device type. Avocent devices themselves are slow as snot. But the
 pin-out control was the deciding factor in the end.

 -M

 On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 4:40 AM, Sachin Rai sachinrai1...@hotmail.com
 wrote:
 
  Hi Team,
 
  I want to buy a console server and wanted to know, what are the
 available console servers compatible with Juniper devices.
 
  thanks
  Sachin
 
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We went with OpenGear, it is inexpensive and has all the features we need.

Pretty solid boxes

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Re: [j-nsp] console switch to access juniper devices

2012-03-30 Thread Scott Martin
I second (or third :) ) OpenGear. We have about a dozen or so of the 48 port 
models with Cisco pinout. 90+% of all devices are either a straight through or 
rollover cable. With silver satin cable, easy peasy. We have hundreds of EX 
switches and dozens of MX routers behind them without any problems at all. 

-Scott

On Mar 30, 2012, at 6:26 PM, Brent Jones wrote:

 On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 11:50 AM, Matt Hite li...@beatmixed.com wrote:
 
 Recently (within past 2 years) did a eval of console servers. I was
 pretty impressed with OpenGear. I will note I wasn't trying them with
 Juniper devices, but I'm sure it will work fine.
 
 In the end, we went with Avocent mainly because they could control
 pin-out via software and other vendors required special cabling for
 each device type. Avocent devices themselves are slow as snot. But the
 pin-out control was the deciding factor in the end.
 
 -M
 
 On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 4:40 AM, Sachin Rai sachinrai1...@hotmail.com
 wrote:
 
 Hi Team,
 
 I want to buy a console server and wanted to know, what are the
 available console servers compatible with Juniper devices.
 
 thanks
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 Pretty solid boxes
 
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Re: [j-nsp] console switch to access juniper devices

2012-03-30 Thread james jones
Digi work pretty well. No need for the dongle.

On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 7:38 PM, Alexander Frolkin a...@eldamar.org.ukwrote:

  We went with OpenGear, it is inexpensive and has all the features we
 need.

 We also went with OpenGear.  Another advantage is that the company is
 very responsive to queries and feature requests.  They implemented
 several features for us (in a matter of weeks --- with any other company
 this would probably have taken years) and they're now in the production
 release.

 As far as I understand, they also allow you to put custom firmware on
 their boxes without voiding the warranty (although we were pretty happy
 with the OpenGear firmware).


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Re: [j-nsp] JNCIP-SP latest dumps

2012-03-30 Thread Ben Dale
 I am not saying braindumps are good at all, but...
 
 What engineer when architecting/building/supporting a solution doesn't have
 access to the internet or reference tools?
 


I'd hazard a guess that neither Dodo or Telstra engineers were able to google 
for help last month : P

It's Junos - you have the entire command reference built into the OS

When you know exactly what you're looking for - help reference ...
When you only have a rough idea what you're looking for help apropos ...
When you have no idea what you're looking for, make a mental note of areas to 
study for next time.

If you are walking into a JNCIE-anything exam not knowing these things already, 
then you're probably not ready to be sitting it.

You also have the PDFs of the Junos manuals available to you.

 I architect all day long and the Juniper and Cisco websites are my bible
 for product knowledge, features, part numbers, etc etc.


These exams aren't designed for architects, they're for hands-on engineers - 
people who need to be able to think under pressure and manage their time while 
have a good grasp of the operating system and fundamental protocols.  

The exam won't ask you to design anything, much less ask for a bill of 
materials and a quote - the boxes are in place, pre-cabled and physically 
inaccessible.

 It is like an electrician or plumber without their tools... absolutely
 useless.

I'm going to strongly disagree with you here - if I was paying an expert-level 
engineer to urgently fix an issue on my network and they needed anything more 
than a terminal app, a console cable and a network diagram, I'd be looking 
elsewhere.

 I would like to see exams include man pages, or at least an approved
 reference book that would let you look up obscure crap you almost never
 need to know off the top of your head.


See above

 Binary-Hex-Decimal math... bullshit, I can't believe we're not able to
 use even a calculator these days... even highschool exams allow calculators!


The last exam I saw with any sort of conversion on it was the JNCIA-JUNOS - 
these are fundamentals every network person should be taught, no exceptions.

Ben

 
 On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 23:25, Sascha Luck li...@c4inet.net wrote:
 
 On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 05:03:54AM -0700, Jared Gull wrote:
 
 I'm with Graham. Sack up and have some integrity, learn the material, and
 take the test pass or fail.
 
 
 of course this is true generally, but the exams are not always
 very compatible with practical networking experience. Srsly, you need to
 know every property of every OSPF LSA type or STP BPDU by heart? That's
 what the Internet is for...
 I did JNCIS the old-skool way and it was a lot of grinding useless
 information that I've forgotten again already...
 
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Re: [j-nsp] JNCIP-SP latest dumps

2012-03-30 Thread Xu Hu
Please not reply this post again, since I had already got the warning from 
Juniper.

Thanks and regards,
Xu Hu

On 31 Mar, 2012, at 12:33, Ben Dale bd...@comlinx.com.au wrote:

 I am not saying braindumps are good at all, but...
 
 What engineer when architecting/building/supporting a solution doesn't have
 access to the internet or reference tools?
 
 
 
 I'd hazard a guess that neither Dodo or Telstra engineers were able to google 
 for help last month : P
 
 It's Junos - you have the entire command reference built into the OS
 
 When you know exactly what you're looking for - help reference ...
 When you only have a rough idea what you're looking for help apropos ...
 When you have no idea what you're looking for, make a mental note of areas to 
 study for next time.
 
 If you are walking into a JNCIE-anything exam not knowing these things 
 already, then you're probably not ready to be sitting it.
 
 You also have the PDFs of the Junos manuals available to you.
 
 I architect all day long and the Juniper and Cisco websites are my bible
 for product knowledge, features, part numbers, etc etc.
 
 
 These exams aren't designed for architects, they're for hands-on engineers 
 - people who need to be able to think under pressure and manage their time 
 while have a good grasp of the operating system and fundamental protocols.  
 
 The exam won't ask you to design anything, much less ask for a bill of 
 materials and a quote - the boxes are in place, pre-cabled and physically 
 inaccessible.
 
 It is like an electrician or plumber without their tools... absolutely
 useless.
 
 I'm going to strongly disagree with you here - if I was paying an 
 expert-level engineer to urgently fix an issue on my network and they needed 
 anything more than a terminal app, a console cable and a network diagram, I'd 
 be looking elsewhere.
 
 I would like to see exams include man pages, or at least an approved
 reference book that would let you look up obscure crap you almost never
 need to know off the top of your head.
 
 
 See above
 
 Binary-Hex-Decimal math... bullshit, I can't believe we're not able to
 use even a calculator these days... even highschool exams allow calculators!
 
 
 The last exam I saw with any sort of conversion on it was the JNCIA-JUNOS - 
 these are fundamentals every network person should be taught, no exceptions.
 
 Ben
 
 
 On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 23:25, Sascha Luck li...@c4inet.net wrote:
 
 On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 05:03:54AM -0700, Jared Gull wrote:
 
 I'm with Graham. Sack up and have some integrity, learn the material, and
 take the test pass or fail.
 
 
 of course this is true generally, but the exams are not always
 very compatible with practical networking experience. Srsly, you need to
 know every property of every OSPF LSA type or STP BPDU by heart? That's
 what the Internet is for...
 I did JNCIS the old-skool way and it was a lot of grinding useless
 information that I've forgotten again already...
 
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Re: [j-nsp] JNCIP-SP latest dumps

2012-03-30 Thread Scott Morris
And because high school exams allows calculators explains why people
can't figure out how to make change today after hitting the wrong keys
on the cash register...

Because the education system in general is catering to the lowest common
denominator doesn't mean that a certification exam needs to.

Let's see how exciting that is when you figure our that your doctor
passed his/her boards because WebMD was there to help on those
difficult things that are more obscure.

An electrician who doesn't understand amperage, or a plumber who doesn't
understand water flow...  Absolutely useless.

Are you telling me that the experts who the experts call don't
understand fundamental mathematical concepts, or can't do this stuff off
the top of their heads?

Is there stuff you don't use every day?  Perhaps.  I suppose that
depends on what you do.  If you work in an IS-IS world, then correct,
you could care less about OSPF LSAs.  Learn it.  It's a multiple choice
exam, so statistically, even a monkey has a chance of passing.  In
theory, that should be higher if you understand things.

My two cents for the day.  (or 3.5 in case the register failed)  ;)

 


*Scott Morris*, CCIE/x4/ (RS/ISP-Dial/Security/Service Provider) #4713,

CCDE #2009::D, CCNP-Voice, JNCIE-SP #153, JNCIE-ER #102, CISSP, et al.

CCSI #21903, JNCI-SP, JNCI-ER

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Knowledge is power.

Power corrupts.

Study hard and be Eeeevl..


On 3/30/12 8:59 AM, Skeeve Stevens wrote:
 I am not saying braindumps are good at all, but...

 What engineer when architecting/building/supporting a solution doesn't have
 access to the internet or reference tools?

 I architect all day long and the Juniper and Cisco websites are my bible
 for product knowledge, features, part numbers, etc etc.

 It is like an electrician or plumber without their tools... absolutely
 useless.

 I would like to see exams include man pages, or at least an approved
 reference book that would let you look up obscure crap you almost never
 need to know off the top of your head.

 Binary-Hex-Decimal math... bullshit, I can't believe we're not able to
 use even a calculator these days... even highschool exams allow calculators!

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 On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 05:03:54AM -0700, Jared Gull wrote:

 I'm with Graham. Sack up and have some integrity, learn the material, and
 take the test pass or fail.

 of course this is true generally, but the exams are not always
 very compatible with practical networking experience. Srsly, you need to
 know every property of every OSPF LSA type or STP BPDU by heart? That's
 what the Internet is for...
 I did JNCIS the old-skool way and it was a lot of grinding useless
 information that I've forgotten again already...

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[j-nsp] Best way to detect abnormal traffic without enabling security?

2012-03-30 Thread 叶雨飞
Hi,

I am currently using a pair of J2350 exporting about 200+ /32 BGP
route  to my peer, and I'm been hit by DDOS several times, the hardest
part for me is to figure out which IP was getting the DDOS and
deactivate that route, which will de-announce that route to my peer.

However I have no established method right now to figure out which IP
is getting DDOSed, so I am hoping somebody can pass along some
sampling or dump method to quickly identify toublesome dst ip.

Thanks!
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