Re: [j-nsp] Access to junos downloads

2018-08-02 Thread Graham Brown
Hi Alex,

The official answer is that you can’t. If you require devices of this spec,
then I’d highly recommend a support contract.

The cheapest option would be support only, no hardware RMA etc. But if it
goes pop...

Others may be able to assist you in just getting hold of software but you
may need more down the line for new features, PR fixes etc so best this in
mind from an OPEX point of view you may have to wait a while during an
outage.

Cheers,
Graham


On Fri, 3 Aug 2018 at 08:30, Alex Martino via juniper-nsp <
juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net> wrote:

> Good evening,
>
> I have recently acquired a Juniper MX80 and MX240, both refurbished. I am
> now looking for a cheap and effective way to get access to junos downloads
> without having a j-care on all of it, so I can apply patches to my devices.
>
> Is there a "smart way" to get access to the downloads without breaking the
> bank? I welcome any feedback in private email as well.
>
> Many thanks,
> Alex
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[j-nsp] Access to junos downloads

2018-08-02 Thread Alex Martino via juniper-nsp
Good evening,

I have recently acquired a Juniper MX80 and MX240, both refurbished. I am now 
looking for a cheap and effective way to get access to junos downloads without 
having a j-care on all of it, so I can apply patches to my devices.

Is there a "smart way" to get access to the downloads without breaking the 
bank? I welcome any feedback in private email as well.

Many thanks,
Alex
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Re: [j-nsp] Parameters/variables in policy-statements

2018-08-02 Thread Jason Lixfeld



> On Aug 2, 2018, at 2:51 PM, Saku Ytti  wrote:
> 
> Not the answer you probably wanted, but I think network engineers
> really need to start embracing less CLI-jockey and more centralised
> logic.

I agree whole heartedly, and that is a work currently in progress.  However 
until then, here we are :)
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Re: [j-nsp] Parameters/variables in policy-statements

2018-08-02 Thread Saku Ytti
Hey,

> 2 possibilities come to mind:
>
> - Create a BGP group for each different set of parameter combinations and 
> have the commit script set parameters for the neighbor based on what group 
> they are in.
> or,
> - Come up with a standard convention for defining the neighbor description, 
> such that the parameters could be encoded into the description.  The commit 
> script could then set parameters based on the values in the appropriate 
> positions within the description.
>
> Both of these seem somewhat complex, but perhaps only because they are 
> unfamiliar.  Are there other ways of doing this that might prove to be (more) 
> effective?

My recommendation is to minimally rely on vendor tooling, generate
entire configuration offline and you have same tooling, same logic
available to every current and future platform, making changing vendor
much OPEX friendlier process.

The issue what you explain is real, and you can dig yourself to
similar hole going to opposite way from JunOS to IOS-XR, by relying
heavily on apply-groups and apply-paths (IOS-XR groups are inferior
and cannot express same things).
I'm sure similarly we can see any V1=>V2 transition being complicated
and expensive when we heavily commit on V1 specific tooling.

Not the answer you probably wanted, but I think network engineers
really need to start embracing less CLI-jockey and more centralised
logic.

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[j-nsp] Parameters/variables in policy-statements

2018-08-02 Thread Jason Lixfeld
Hey there,

I’m somewhat green to JunOS coming from a primarily IOS/IOS XR background.  IOS 
XR’s route-policy language supports the use of variables, or parameters, which 
essentially allows me to create a template that accepts some variables, and 
adjust the parameters that set those variables at various levels in the config.

For example:

!
route-policy GLOBAL-POLICY($LP, $MED, $SERVICE)
  set local-preference $LP
  set med $MED
  set community (21949:$SERVICE) additive
end-policy
!
route-policy IXP-OUT($IXP, $IXP_RTBH_ASN, $IXP_RTBH_ID)
  apply GLOBAL-FILTER
  if community matches-any ANNOUNCE--UPSTREAM then
pass
if community matches-any (21949:666) then
  set community ($IXP_RTBH_ASN:$IXP_RTBH_ID)
  done
elseif community matches-any (21949:2000) then
  drop
elseif community matches-any (21949:$IXP) then
  drop
else
  delete community all
  done
endif
drop
  endif
end-policy
!
route-policy IXP-IN($IXP, $LP, $MED, $SERVICE)
  set community (21949:$IXP)
  apply GLOBAL-FILTER
  apply GLOBAL-POLICY($LP, $MED, $SERVICE)
end-policy
!
neighbor-group IXP-V4
  address-family ipv4 unicast
   route-policy IXP-IN($IXP, $LP, $MED, $SERVICE) in
   maximum-prefix 10 90 restart 5
   route-policy IXP-OUT(2010, 0, 0) out
  !
 !
…
…
…
neighbor 1.2.3.4 
 remote-as 1234
 use neighbor-group IXP-V4(2010, 390, 0, 2000)
neighbor 2.3.4.5
 remote-as 2345
 route-policy IXP-V4(2020, 190, 0, 3000) in
 route-policy IXP-OUT(2020, 2345, 666) out
…
…


I don’t believe JunOS supports the same functionally directly, so I think I’d 
have to use commit scripts to accomplish something similar.  As I’m trying to 
familiarize myself with it all, I can’t seem to determine the various ways that 
the parameters could be pulled from the config for the commit scripts to 
utilize.

2 possibilities come to mind:

- Create a BGP group for each different set of parameter combinations and have 
the commit script set parameters for the neighbor based on what group they are 
in.
or,
- Come up with a standard convention for defining the neighbor description, 
such that the parameters could be encoded into the description.  The commit 
script could then set parameters based on the values in the appropriate 
positions within the description.

Both of these seem somewhat complex, but perhaps only because they are 
unfamiliar.  Are there other ways of doing this that might prove to be (more) 
effective?

Thanks in advance.
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Re: [j-nsp] Mounting a QFX5100 or ACX5048 on 2 Post Rack

2018-08-02 Thread Colton Conor
Brian, are you talking about this kit:
https://www.racksolutions.com/2-post-rack-rails.html



On Thu, Aug 2, 2018 at 11:25 AM, Nelson, Brian 
wrote:

> Yes, I have these kits in production, without the back cable mgmt rail.
> Work just fine. They are beefier than the pictures depict.
>
> Brian Nelson
>
> On 08/02/2018 10:08 AM, Colton Conor wrote:
> > Tim,
> >
> > Have you used this 2 post rack rails with the QFX5100? It looks like this
> > rail kit has a back plate, does the power cables fit through those holes?
> > This QFX5100 is long.
> >
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Aug 1, 2018 at 5:48 PM, Tim Jackson 
> wrote:
> >
> >> https://www.racksolutions.com/2-post-rack-rails.html
> >>
> >> --
> >> Tim
> >>
> >> On Wed, Aug 1, 2018 at 5:39 PM, Colton Conor 
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> We are constantly having to mount these larger switches to two post
> racks.
> >>> To my knowledge Juniper does not make 2 post mounting brackets for
> these
> >>> switches. Does anyone have any recommendations on a shelf or something
> to
> >>> hold these up? We are dealing with 19 and 23 inch racks.
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Re: [j-nsp] Mounting a QFX5100 or ACX5048 on 2 Post Rack

2018-08-02 Thread Nelson, Brian
Yes, I have these kits in production, without the back cable mgmt rail.
Work just fine. They are beefier than the pictures depict.

Brian Nelson

On 08/02/2018 10:08 AM, Colton Conor wrote:
> Tim,
>
> Have you used this 2 post rack rails with the QFX5100? It looks like this
> rail kit has a back plate, does the power cables fit through those holes?
> This QFX5100 is long.
>
>
>
> On Wed, Aug 1, 2018 at 5:48 PM, Tim Jackson  wrote:
>
>> https://www.racksolutions.com/2-post-rack-rails.html
>>
>> --
>> Tim
>>
>> On Wed, Aug 1, 2018 at 5:39 PM, Colton Conor 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> We are constantly having to mount these larger switches to two post racks.
>>> To my knowledge Juniper does not make 2 post mounting brackets for these
>>> switches. Does anyone have any recommendations on a shelf or something to
>>> hold these up? We are dealing with 19 and 23 inch racks.
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Re: [j-nsp] Mounting a QFX5100 or ACX5048 on 2 Post Rack

2018-08-02 Thread Chuck Anderson
I'm using just the front part, center mounted.  Works fine and is much stronger 
than the flimsy back part.

On Thu, Aug 02, 2018 at 11:07:20AM -0400, Colton Conor wrote:
> Chuck,
> 
> We put them in the center, and even cut them, but overall the 4 post rack
> brackets that come with the QFX5100 are flimsy as hell.
> 
> On Wed, Aug 1, 2018 at 6:09 PM, Chuck Anderson  wrote:
> 
> > Just put the rack brackets back towards the middle of the sides so the
> > switch is hangs further forward.  The weight is more balanced and it works
> > fine.
> >
> > On Wed, Aug 01, 2018 at 06:39:43PM -0400, Colton Conor wrote:
> > > We are constantly having to mount these larger switches to two post
> > racks.
> > > To my knowledge Juniper does not make 2 post mounting brackets for these
> > > switches. Does anyone have any recommendations on a shelf or something to
> > > hold these up? We are dealing with 19 and 23 inch racks.
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Re: [j-nsp] Mounting a QFX5100 or ACX5048 on 2 Post Rack

2018-08-02 Thread Colton Conor
Tim,

Have you used this 2 post rack rails with the QFX5100? It looks like this
rail kit has a back plate, does the power cables fit through those holes?
This QFX5100 is long.



On Wed, Aug 1, 2018 at 5:48 PM, Tim Jackson  wrote:

> https://www.racksolutions.com/2-post-rack-rails.html
>
> --
> Tim
>
> On Wed, Aug 1, 2018 at 5:39 PM, Colton Conor 
> wrote:
>
>> We are constantly having to mount these larger switches to two post racks.
>> To my knowledge Juniper does not make 2 post mounting brackets for these
>> switches. Does anyone have any recommendations on a shelf or something to
>> hold these up? We are dealing with 19 and 23 inch racks.
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Re: [j-nsp] Mounting a QFX5100 or ACX5048 on 2 Post Rack

2018-08-02 Thread Colton Conor
Chuck,

We put them in the center, and even cut them, but overall the 4 post rack
brackets that come with the QFX5100 are flimsy as hell.

On Wed, Aug 1, 2018 at 6:09 PM, Chuck Anderson  wrote:

> Just put the rack brackets back towards the middle of the sides so the
> switch is hangs further forward.  The weight is more balanced and it works
> fine.
>
> On Wed, Aug 01, 2018 at 06:39:43PM -0400, Colton Conor wrote:
> > We are constantly having to mount these larger switches to two post
> racks.
> > To my knowledge Juniper does not make 2 post mounting brackets for these
> > switches. Does anyone have any recommendations on a shelf or something to
> > hold these up? We are dealing with 19 and 23 inch racks.
>
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Re: [j-nsp] Mounting a QFX5100 or ACX5048 on 2 Post Rack

2018-08-02 Thread Colton Conor
Chris,

So the EX4200 rack ears fit on the QFX5100?



On Wed, Aug 1, 2018 at 8:19 PM, Chris Wopat  wrote:

> We still use EX4200 rack ears and center mount them. Holes line up, works
> fine. I believe it's "EX-RMK". It's more problematic to flush mount it as
> one always needs some support on the rear- usually a small shelf on the
> back side, like the small shelf used to mount an MX480.
>
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