Re: [j-nsp] Difference in "MX204" and "MX204-HW-BASE"?

[Giuliano C. Medalha via juniper-nsp]

Goodnight

As far as I saw, the MX480 and MPC7 are not in EOL.

However, even if it is, and the customer has an active COR or ND type contract, 
the customer has the right to install recent versions of JUNOS (obviously as 
long as they are supported by the platform), such as 22.

If 22 complains to the customer about license, the ideal would be to have a way 
to generate this HASH by the juniper license portal.

Otherwise, every time a commit is made, a WARNING comes and that is very 
annoying.

The installed base of MX480 and MPC7 with active support is still very high in 
the world.

At.te

Giuliano

From: Catalin Dominte 
Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2024 7:26 PM
To: Giuliano C. Medalha ; Gert Doering 
; Richard McGovern 
Cc: juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net
Subject: Re: [j-nsp] Difference in "MX204" and "MX204-HW-BASE"?

Good Evening,

>>> For example. If you bought an MX480/MPC7 ago with -IR and -R ... the JUNOS 
>>> 22 will ask you to install the hash of a license to >>>enforce the table's 
>>> software (bgp, gre, etc). However, we still haven't figured out how to 
>>> generate an old MX480 or MX204 license >>> for the new standard that 
>>> JUNIPER is requiring in the JUNOS 22...

>>> I think they forgot about that... somehow... and it will need to be 
>>> resolved.

Unless they EOL the entire lot and therefore the problem is gone. . Computer 
says no .



Catalin Dominte

From: juniper-nsp 
mailto:juniper-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net>>
 on behalf of Giuliano C. Medalha via juniper-nsp 
mailto:juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net>>
Date: Wednesday, 10 January 2024 at 21:50
To: Gert Doering mailto:g...@greenie.muc.de>>, Richard 
McGovern mailto:rmcgov...@juniper.net>>
Cc: juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net<mailto:juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net> 
mailto:juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net>>
Subject: Re: [j-nsp] Difference in "MX204" and "MX204-HW-BASE"?
Good evening guys, how are you ?

If I can contribute a little.

Looking from a timeline standpoint... the MX204 passed:

- MX204 with -IR and R licenses ( which were perpetual )

- MX204-P-BASE ( Which was the transition box from -IR and -R to Flex License )

- MX204-HW-BASE ( Advanced and Premium Flex Licenses with 3 years or Perpetual )

Now on the JUNOS 22, Juniper starts requesting that the licenses hashes be 
installed in the box. However, from my point of view, the portal for generating 
router licenses is not yet prepared to take an -IR or -R license and generate 
it in the way that version 22 understands.

For example. If you bought an MX480/MPC7 ago with -IR and -R ... the JUNOS 22 
will ask you to install the hash of a license to enforce the table's software 
(bgp, gre, etc). However, we still haven't figured out how to generate an old 
MX480 or MX204 license for the new standard that JUNIPER is requiring in the 
JUNOS 22...

I think they forgot about that... somehow... and it will need to be resolved.

At.te

Giuliano

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Subject: Re: [j-nsp] Difference in "MX204" and "MX204-HW-BASE"?

Hi,

On Wed, Jan 10, 2024 at 09:41:41PM +, Richard McGovern via juniper-nsp 
wrote:
> Now, unknown to me (they don?t tell SEs any of this info either) there
> could have been ?hard? enforcement added in some newer SW release ? RN
> should point this out (stop laughing please!!!). Juniper internal have
> discussed implementing ?hard? enforcement over the years, and with
> potential change in product management (just happens) that view may
> change. Can?t tell you yah or nah on hard enforcement.

If you do not have enough magenta coloured ink, no BGP for you...

gert
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Re: [j-nsp] Thanks for all the fish

[Giuliano C. Medalha via juniper-nsp]

Yes definitely.

And it doesn't make any sense to just take the first jewel (MIST / ML) and not 
take advantage of the other 2  (JUNOS and NPUs) ... and simply discard them.

Even because there are many large customers in the world who are using the 
"other" 2 jewels.


From: Richard McGovern 
Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2024 7:16 PM
To: Giuliano C. Medalha ; Alexandre Guimaraes 
; juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net; Aaron Gould 

Subject: Re: Re: [j-nsp] Thanks for all the fish

#1 jewel HPE (Aruba) is interested in is Juniper/MIST AI. MIST AI and ML is 
also being integrated into many other facets of Juniper, one being Apstra. See 
this in announcement - 
https://www.barrons.com/articles/cisco-stock-arista-juniper-hp-enterprise-acquisition-b94d6024

FYI only, Rich

Richard McGovern
Sr Sales Engineer, Juniper Networks
978-618-3342

I'd rather be lucky than good, as I know I am not good
I don't make the news, I just report it




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On 1/10/24, 5:10 PM, "Giuliano C. Medalha" 
mailto:giuli...@wztech.com.br>> wrote:
Alexandre,

Goodnight.

JUNIPER has 2 very powerful jewels that don't make any sense for HPe to throw 
them away.

One of them is the JUNOS operating system and now the JUNOS-EVO.

The other thing is related to the JUNIPER NPUs: TRIO and Express ( to compete 
with other vendors - cisco, arista, nokia - and now with nvidia )

The technology of these JUNIPER NPUs is very great. Both shipping and 
manufacturing.  There is the issue today of low energy consumption too.

And there is the entire JUNIPER engineering team that has enormous value.

HPe must have a huge interest in JUNIPER NPUs for High Performance Computing 
(HPC) ... as investments in HPC for AI processing are extremely high today.

And HPe certainly has its eye on this market... being able to supply servers 
with Nvidia's HG100 cards (example) and the entire network part with the 
appropriate NPU to run the necessary communication for AI and ML.

So I don't believe that wasting a huge chance like that, especially in the 
American market, is something they are not thinking about.  Quite the opposite.

Besides 5G and Edge Computing ... and other projects.

At.te

Giuliano


Take a look 


Sharada Yeluri articles:

https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/gpu-fabrics-genai-workloads-sharada-yeluri-j8ghc?utm_source=share_medium=member_ios_campaign=share_via__;!!NEt6yMaO-gk!HQROn9iGp4UvBkIlPTpyFN3tHCur82IRLhMj2HcS56qjKND36LA46zPvEikfsSpdYFnKJfz3cUTcL6mDjp7THMIoKNxHYZLW$<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/www.linkedin.com/pulse/gpu-fabrics-genai-workloads-sharada-yeluri-j8ghc?utm_source=share_medium=member_ios_campaign=share_via__;!!NEt6yMaO-gk!HQROn9iGp4UvBkIlPTpyFN3tHCur82IRLhMj2HcS56qjKND36LA46zPvEikfsSpdYFnKJfz3cUTcL6mDjp7THMIoKNxHYZLW$>

https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/chiplets-inevitable-transition-sharada-yeluri?utm_source=share_medium=member_ios_campaign=share_via__;!!NEt6yMaO-gk!HQROn9iGp4UvBkIlPTpyFN3tHCur82IRLhMj2HcS56qjKND36LA46zPvEikfsSpdYFnKJfz3cUTcL6mDjp7THMIoKGpRuQPN$<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/www.linkedin.com/pulse/chiplets-inevitable-transition-sharada-yeluri?utm_source=share_medium=member_ios_campaign=share_via__;!!NEt6yMaO-gk!HQROn9iGp4UvBkIlPTpyFN3tHCur82IRLhMj2HcS56qjKND36LA46zPvEikfsSpdYFnKJfz3cUTcL6mDjp7THMIoKGpRuQPN$>


MIT AI:

https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://people.csail.mit.edu/ghobadi/papers/trio_sigcomm_2022.pdf__;!!NEt6yMaO-gk!HQROn9iGp4UvBkIlPTpyFN3tHCur82IRLhMj2HcS56qjKND36LA46zPvEikfsSpdYFnKJfz3cUTcL6mDjp7THMIoKBhUJIPe$<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/people.csail.mit.edu/ghobadi/papers/trio_sigcomm_2022.pdf__;!!NEt6yMaO-gk!HQROn9iGp4UvBkIlPTpyFN3tHCur82IRLhMj2HcS56qjKND36LA46zPvEikfsSpdYFnKJfz3cUTcL6mDjp7THMIoKBhUJIPe$>


AKAMAI EDGE:

https://www.juniper.net/us/en/customers/akamai-technologies-case-study.html ( 
JCO400 + MX304 + PTX )



-Original Message-
From: juniper-nsp 
mailto:juniper-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net>>
 On Behalf Of Alexandre Figueira Guimaraes via juniper-nsp
Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2024 4:38 PM
To: juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net<mailto:juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net>; Aaron 
Gould mailto:aar...@gvtc.com>>
Subject: Re: [j-nsp] Thanks for all the fish

HPE will turn Juniper just like they turn 3com.

you know the results.



att
Alexandre







De: juniper-nsp 
mailto:juniper-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net>>
 em nome de Aaron Gould via juniper-nsp 
mailto:juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net>>
Enviado: quarta-feira, 10 de janeiro de 2024 16:30
Para: juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net<mailto:juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net> 
mailto:juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net>>
Assunto: Re: [j-nsp] Thanks for all the fish

https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://newsroom.juniper.net/news/news-details/2024/HPE-to-Acquire-Juniper-Networks-to-Accelerate-AI-Driven-Innovation/__;!!M3gv20Gt!cY_tIELb_GnFbX25Rob0JdOOa-DCsw5rdrDXQLZCHc5pb

Re: [j-nsp] Thanks for all the fish

[Giuliano C. Medalha via juniper-nsp]

Alexandre,

Goodnight.

JUNIPER has 2 very powerful jewels that don't make any sense for HPe to throw 
them away.

One of them is the JUNOS operating system and now the JUNOS-EVO.

The other thing is related to the JUNIPER NPUs: TRIO and Express ( to compete 
with other vendors - cisco, arista, nokia - and now with nvidia )

The technology of these JUNIPER NPUs is very great. Both shipping and 
manufacturing.  There is the issue today of low energy consumption too.

And there is the entire JUNIPER engineering team that has enormous value.

HPe must have a huge interest in JUNIPER NPUs for High Performance Computing 
(HPC) ... as investments in HPC for AI processing are extremely high today.

And HPe certainly has its eye on this market... being able to supply servers 
with Nvidia's HG100 cards (example) and the entire network part with the 
appropriate NPU to run the necessary communication for AI and ML.

So I don't believe that wasting a huge chance like that, especially in the 
American market, is something they are not thinking about.  Quite the opposite.

Besides 5G and Edge Computing ... and other projects.

At.te

Giuliano


Take a look 


Sharada Yeluri articles:

https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/gpu-fabrics-genai-workloads-sharada-yeluri-j8ghc?utm_source=share_medium=member_ios_campaign=share_via

https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/chiplets-inevitable-transition-sharada-yeluri?utm_source=share_medium=member_ios_campaign=share_via


MIT AI:

https://people.csail.mit.edu/ghobadi/papers/trio_sigcomm_2022.pdf


AKAMAI EDGE:

https://www.juniper.net/us/en/customers/akamai-technologies-case-study.html ( 
JCO400 + MX304 + PTX )



-Original Message-
From: juniper-nsp  On Behalf Of Alexandre 
Figueira Guimaraes via juniper-nsp
Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2024 4:38 PM
To: juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net; Aaron Gould 
Subject: Re: [j-nsp] Thanks for all the fish

HPE will turn Juniper just like they turn 3com.

you know the results.



att
Alexandre







De: juniper-nsp  em nome de Aaron Gould 
via juniper-nsp 
Enviado: quarta-feira, 10 de janeiro de 2024 16:30
Para: juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net 
Assunto: Re: [j-nsp] Thanks for all the fish

https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://newsroom.juniper.net/news/news-details/2024/HPE-to-Acquire-Juniper-Networks-to-Accelerate-AI-Driven-Innovation/__;!!M3gv20Gt!cY_tIELb_GnFbX25Rob0JdOOa-DCsw5rdrDXQLZCHc5pbquwHK0zxmd1eBGJkltMjQg9rRZ5_SLSka5e9RqBfwazhmC0uXDs$

an MX with an HP label on it will seem so weird


On 1/9/2024 2:55 AM, Saku Ytti via juniper-nsp wrote:
> What do we think of HPE acquiring JNPR?
>
>
> I guess it was given that something's gotta give, JNPR has lost to
> dollar as an investment for more than 2 decades, which is not
> sustainable in the way we model our economy.
>
> Out of all possible outcomes:
> - JNPR suddenly starts to grow (how?)
> - JNPR defaults
> - JNPR gets acquired
>
> It's not the worst outcome, and from who acquires them, HPE isn't the
> worst option, nor the best. I guess the best option would have been,
> several large telcos buying it through a co-owned sister company, who
> then are less interested in profits, and more interested in having a
> device that works for them. Worst would probably have been Cisco,
> Nokia, Huawei.
>
> I think the main concern is that SP business is kinda shitty business,
> long sales times, low sales volumes, high requirements. But that's
> also the side of JNPR that has USP.
>
> What is the future of NPU (Trio) and Pipeline (Paradise/Triton), why
> would I, as HP exec, keep them alive? I need JNPR to put QFX in my DC
> RFPs, I don't really care about SP markets, and I can realise some
> savings by axing chip design and support. I think Trio is the best NPU
> on the market, and I think we may have a real risk losing it, and no
> mechanism that would guarantee new players surfacing to replace it.
>
> I do wish that JNPR had been more serious about how unsustainable it
> is to lose to the dollar, and had tried more to capture markets. I
> always suggested why not try Trio-PCI in newegg. Long tail is long,
> maybe if you could buy it for 2-3k, there would be a new market of
> Linux PCI users who want wire rate programmable features for multiple
> ports? Maybe ESXi server integration for various pre-VPC protection
> features at wire-rate? I think there might be a lot of potential in
> NPU-PCI, perhaps even FAB-PCI, to have more ports than single NPU-PCI.
>
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Re: [j-nsp] Difference in "MX204" and "MX204-HW-BASE"?

[Giuliano C. Medalha via juniper-nsp]

Good evening guys, how are you ?

If I can contribute a little.

Looking from a timeline standpoint... the MX204 passed:

- MX204 with -IR and R licenses ( which were perpetual )

- MX204-P-BASE ( Which was the transition box from -IR and -R to Flex License )

- MX204-HW-BASE ( Advanced and Premium Flex Licenses with 3 years or Perpetual )

Now on the JUNOS 22, Juniper starts requesting that the licenses hashes be 
installed in the box. However, from my point of view, the portal for generating 
router licenses is not yet prepared to take an -IR or -R license and generate 
it in the way that version 22 understands.

For example. If you bought an MX480/MPC7 ago with -IR and -R ... the JUNOS 22 
will ask you to install the hash of a license to enforce the table's software 
(bgp, gre, etc). However, we still haven't figured out how to generate an old 
MX480 or MX204 license for the new standard that JUNIPER is requiring in the 
JUNOS 22...

I think they forgot about that... somehow... and it will need to be resolved.

At.te

Giuliano

-Original Message-
From: juniper-nsp  On Behalf Of Gert 
Doering via juniper-nsp
Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2024 6:46 PM
To: Richard McGovern 
Cc: juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net
Subject: Re: [j-nsp] Difference in "MX204" and "MX204-HW-BASE"?

Hi,

On Wed, Jan 10, 2024 at 09:41:41PM +, Richard McGovern via juniper-nsp 
wrote:
> Now, unknown to me (they don?t tell SEs any of this info either) there
> could have been ?hard? enforcement added in some newer SW release ? RN
> should point this out (stop laughing please!!!). Juniper internal have
> discussed implementing ?hard? enforcement over the years, and with
> potential change in product management (just happens) that view may
> change. Can?t tell you yah or nah on hard enforcement.

If you do not have enough magenta coloured ink, no BGP for you...

gert
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Re: [j-nsp] MX304 - Edge Router

[Giuliano C. Medalha via juniper-nsp]

Aaron,

I think the problem is related to the following:

> show rout?

- route
- routing

.. Think ... that is the problem of autocomplete that everyone is talking about.

At.te

Giuliano



-Original Message-
From: juniper-nsp  On Behalf Of Aaron 
Gould via juniper-nsp
Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2023 3:28 PM
To: Mark Tinka ; juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net
Subject: Re: [j-nsp] MX304 - Edge Router

my tab and spacebar auto-complete is working...22.2R3.15

{master}
me@mx304> show system information
Model: mx304
Family: junos
Junos: 22.2R3.15
Hostname: mx304



On 10/18/2023 11:11 PM, Mark Tinka via juniper-nsp wrote:
>
>
> On 10/18/23 19:05, Chris Wopat via juniper-nsp wrote:
>
>> Only complaint is Junos related, with auto tab complete problems as
>> extensively discussed in a different thread.
>
> I have an update on that...
>
> Our request was granted, and Juniper are initially targeting to fix
> this in Junos 24.1. However, there are ongoing discussions to
> introduce this into 23.3R2.
>
> So we may soon see the back of this.
>
> Mark.
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> 000%7C%7C%7C=hUQFLTiKLjPUQNCoM4bWFlZzCQq2Tx0AlwzDl57r%2B04%3D
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[j-nsp] MX304 - Edge Router

[Giuliano C. Medalha via juniper-nsp]

Good morning

All good ?

Anyone already running MX304 as an edge, using ipfix, flowspec and telemetry 
features on the same box ?


Any problems related with that ?

If so, what version of Junos are you using?

Thanks

Giuliano


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[j-nsp] JUNIPER 400G ZR+ HP

[Giuliano C. Medalha via juniper-nsp]

Goodnight,

All good ?

Is anyone on the list already carrying out tests with JUNIPER's coherent 
optical elements ( OpenZR+ High Power) ... in PTX10001-36MR or ACX7100-32C (or 
48L) ?

The following bundle that is available: QDD-4C-ZRM-HP-P-B

https://www.juniper.net/us/en/products/pluggable-optics/jco-series/jco400-coherent-optical-transceivers-datasheet.html

Could you give us a little of your experience using these elements... and the 
operating parameters of the test ?

Thanks,

Giuliano

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Re: [j-nsp] MX304 Port Layout

[Giuliano C. Medalha via juniper-nsp]

> Hello good afternoon.
>
> Please have a look at the following documentation:
>
>
> https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fcommunity.juniper.net%2Fblogs%2Freema-ray%2F2023%2F03%2F28%2Fmx304-deepdive=05%7C01%7Cgiuliano%40wztech.com.br%7Cc7b64b057b6b488bff0d08db683a0b28%7C584787b077bd4312bf8815412b8ae504%7C1%7C0%7C638218370748741098%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C=fhF2D3TSWDQljPw0jepN5ZsB%2FdOSUq4zIx%2F9w1TkkhE%3D=0

Thanks, this is most useful!


> It will have everything you need to do with it, including the pictures.
>
> Our first boxes are arriving this next month in Brazil.
>
> By the specs of the new chipset (TRIO6) it's a very good box. A lot of 
> enhancements.

Trio capacity aside, based on our experience with the MPC7E, MX204 and
MX10003, we expect it to be fairly straight forward.

What is holding us back is the cost. The license for each 16-port line
card is eye-watering. While I don't see anything comparable in ASR99xx
Cisco-land (in terms of form factor and 100Gbps port density), those
prices are certainly going to force Juniper customers to look at other
options. They would do well to get that under control.


but you have the flex model. With license for capacity and features.  Advanced 
and Premium.

fib is better now - 12M

sampling rate for ipfix is better too.

but you have other parameters for mpls and bng too




> And it supports 400G already ( ZR and ZR+ need to check ) ( 16 x 100 or 4 x 
> 400 ) per LMIC.

The LMIC won't care whether it's ZR, ZR+, FR4 or DR4. It will be compatible 
with whatever pluggable is used, as long as it can do 400Gbps.



But you need the correct drivers on Junos

And the chassis must support temperature and power budgets

Juniper now has good prices ( common optics ) for 400G ( JCO part numbers )



Unless, of course, you mean whether Juniper provide an interface into
the optic for use-cases where you are plugging into a ROADM... that, I
don't know.

Are you intending to use this router for long-distance applications?



Low 40 km or maximum 80 km direct with ZR high power ( end of the year )

Thanks

Mark.

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Re: [j-nsp] MX304 Port Layout

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Hello good afternoon.

Please have a look at the following documentation:


https://community.juniper.net/blogs/reema-ray/2023/03/28/mx304-deepdive


It will have everything you need to do with it, including the pictures.

Our first boxes are arriving this next month in Brazil.

By the specs of the new chipset (TRIO6) it's a very good box. A lot of 
enhancements.

And it supports 400G already ( ZR and ZR+ need to check ) ( 16 x 100 or 4 x 400 
) per LMIC.

Best regards

Giuliano



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Subject: Re: [j-nsp] MX304 Port Layout



On 6/8/23 17:18, Kevin Shymkiw wrote:
> Along with this - I would suggest looking at Port Checker (
> https://apps/
> .juniper.net%2Fhome%2Fport-checker%2Findex.html=05%7C01%7Cgiuliano%40wztech.com.br%7C28f16ddcdd4440a77d9d08db68348d0b%7C584787b077bd4312bf8815412b8ae504%7C1%7C0%7C638218347183708615%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C=KbDjdprQEMTa1yXQSPrF%2BytprEB0JAtWWRJtkX2QYAs%3D=0
>  ) to make sure your port combinations are valid.

We've had ample experience with Juniper's MPC7E, MX204, PTX1000 and
PTX10001 to know how they structure this from a philosophical standpoint. So 
not a major drama there.

It's just interesting to me that the data sheet does not mention needing to 
sacrifice an RE to get to the chassis' advertised full port compliment. Unless 
the data sheet was updated and I missed it.

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Re: [j-nsp] ACX7100 route scale

[Giuliano C. Medalha via juniper-nsp]

Remember to check ipfix and flowspec scale and availability for acx7100 ...  if 
you are going to use these features.

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Subject: Re: [j-nsp] ACX7100 route scale

I found the info here:

https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.juniper.net%2Fdocumentation%2Fus%2Fen%2Fsoftware%2Fjunos%2Frouting-policy%2Ftopics%2Fref%2Fstatement%2Fsystem-packet-forwarding-options-hw-db-profile.html=05%7C01%7Cgiuliano%40wztech.com.br%7Cbbc83ee8eca2441df81e08daeb298dd5%7C584787b077bd4312bf8815412b8ae504%7C1%7C0%7C638080860975102426%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C=IQenRVdZs1xmKJZyDkhZSoiqA0N%2FE7NIEp0%2F%2F6GxzsU%3D=0

On 31/12/2022 09:54, Mihai wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> Is anyone able to share the RIB scale for ACX7100 or using it as a
> small peering/transit router (2 x full table)?
> While this link
> https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fcommunity.juniper.net%2Fblogs%2Fnicolas-fevrier%2F2022%2F06%2F25%2Fbuilding-the-acx7000-series-the-pfe=05%7C01%7Cgiuliano%40wztech.com.br%7Cbbc83ee8eca2441df81e08daeb298dd5%7C584787b077bd4312bf8815412b8ae504%7C1%7C0%7C638080860975102426%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C=6GSm848sSTey08X6wLJIWkjZycv7VhEAwkzgMJpwnzQ%3D=0
> is extremely useful I am finding difficult to find this info in the
> official documentation.
>
> Thanks!
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Re: [j-nsp] ACX7100 route scale

[Giuliano C. Medalha via juniper-nsp]

Good Morning

Think it is 10M RIB and 1.5M FIB ( need to check )

Juniper has published a lot of public materials about ACX7100 scale

Covering the following topics:

 1. EVPN MAC-VRF (E-LAN): https://lnkd.in/eWRv_VtY

2. EVPN VPWS: https://lnkd.in/eRKhnkgr

3. L3VPN and 6VPE: https://lnkd.in/ee__Vw4E

 4. L2VPN: https://lnkd.in/ezKswEri

5. VPLS: https://lnkd.in/emr4J2AY

 6. L2 MAC Scale and Learning Rate: https://lnkd.in/eGjp7RnW

At.te

Giuliano


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Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2022 6:54:35 AM
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Subject: [j-nsp] ACX7100 route scale


Hi,

Is anyone able to share the RIB scale for ACX7100 or using it as a
small peering/transit router (2 x full table)?
While this link
https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fcommunity.juniper.net%2Fblogs%2Fnicolas-fevrier%2F2022%2F06%2F25%2Fbuilding-the-acx7000-series-the-pfe=05%7C01%7Cgiuliano%40wztech.com.br%7C37e22883d154428c487b08daeb152c81%7C584787b077bd4312bf8815412b8ae504%7C1%7C0%7C638080773456272984%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C=cwY2COIrQp3CZj38%2Bv%2F%2FlB2QFn8CzzlW9au5dntpNRg%3D=0
is extremely useful I am finding difficult to find this info in the
official documentation.

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Re: [j-nsp] GRE tunnels on a QFX10002-60C

[Giuliano C. Medalha via juniper-nsp]

MX204 was announced at EoS

We have used MX204 for last 5 years. It was a huge success for any function it 
was designed.

Juniper only recommend to us ( about gre projects ) in mx product line

Are you going to use mx304 after this year ?

Even this box is more expensive ( 5x at least )

Or Juniper is thinking to launch a new router with TRIO 6 ?


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Subject: Re: [j-nsp] GRE tunnels on a QFX10002-60C



On 6/24/22 11:01, Saku Ytti wrote:

> Many ways to skin the cat. If you can dedicate small router to the
> scrubber (or routing-instance if you can't) and you run BGP-LU, so you
> avoid useless egress IP lookup, you just ensure that the scrubber PE
> or scrubber instance doesn't have the more specific routes, then it'll
> follow the BGP-LU path to egress CE.
> You can scrub any and all prefixes, without any scale implications as
> you never need to touch the network to handle clean traffic.

Agreed.

We use the MX204 as the dedicated router attached to the scrubber, so
there is no performance issue (yet).

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Re: [j-nsp] What is the latest “securing your Juniper device document?

[Giuliano C. Medalha via juniper-nsp]

Hello

Day One Books could help.


https://www.juniper.net/documentation/en_US/day-one-books/TW_HardeningJunosDevices_2ndEd.zip

Hardening Junos Devices 2nd Ed

At.te

Giuliano


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Subject: [j-nsp] What is the latest “securing your Juniper device document?

Hi Team,

Does Juniper have an up to date “how do I security my network device” or “how 
do I secure my network gear” document that is up-to-date?

Thanks,

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Re: [j-nsp] ACX Questions

[Giuliano C. Medalha]

Hello everyone.

We have used the QFX5120 with L2circuit for long. Now in version 19.4R3-S2 it 
is possible to use this this function in aggregate interfaces. Log time effort 
to get this function back again.  For both 48Y and 32C.

The balancing feature is supported only by DLB for now (not FAT or EL)

You also need to understand the need for policers in tunnels. Types of 
signaling and tunnel scalability, depending on chipset (T3).

But they work well for some limited projects.

The suggestion is to ask your SE for a POC and approve everything you need, in 
addition to testing scalability.

See the new ACX7100-48L and ACX7100-32C housings that are coming out with J2. 
They look interesting and promising (features and scalability)

We should test them soon.

Att,

Giuliano

-Original Message-
From: juniper-nsp  On Behalf Of 
aar...@gvtc.com
Sent: sexta-feira, 16 de abril de 2021 17:03
To: 'Colton Conor' 
Cc: 'Juniper List' 
Subject: Re: [j-nsp] ACX Questions

I run martini rfc 4447 ldp-based l2circuits as well as vpls on our mx204's and 
also acx5048's (I think junos 15.x and 17.x on 5048 and I think it's 18.x on 
204)...  I don't think I've tried mpls on qfx5120 (not sure what version of 
gfx5100) you use.



I just tried to lab up l2circuit on one of my qrx5120's and I get a license 
error for mpls feature



-Aaron





From: Colton Conor 
Sent: Friday, April 16, 2021 2:30 PM
To: Aaron 
Cc: Juniper List 
Subject: Re: [j-nsp] ACX Questions



I just received an off list email stating that the ACX5048 does support 
l2circuit (LDP signaled). Is this the same feature as Ethernet-over-MPLS (L2 
circuit)? If so why is it showing this feature is not supported on ACX (or MX 
for that matter)? Is the feature explorer incorrect? 
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 =Ethernet-over-MPLS%20(L2%20circuit)



I do see

20.3R1

Starting in Junos OS Release 20.3R1, support for Layer 2 circuit to provide 
Layer 2 VPN and VPWS with LDP signaling.



On Fri, Apr 16, 2021 at 8:52 AM Colton Conor mailto:colton.co...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Thanks all for this information. Aaron I had my client run this same command on 
their QFX5100, and it too has max 3 labels. It seems the issue is that the 
client needs a layer 2 transport over a layer 3 network. VPLS is the logical 
choice, and the ACX5048 supports this according to the Juniper Feature 
Explorer. The QFX5100, however, does not. What layer 2 over Layer 3 option do 
you recommend for the QFX5100 to talk to an ACX5048 or MX204 on the other end?
It looks like the QFX5100 supports Ethernet-over-MPLS (L2 circuit). Is this an 
alternative to VPLS? ACX and MX does not support Ethernet-over-MPLS (L2 
circuit) however. It seems there is no common protocol that both the QFX and 
ACX/MX share in common under the Virtual Private Networks (VPNs) section of the 
feature explorer. Is there any solution other than replacing the QFX with ACX's 
or MX's?

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Re: [j-nsp] How to pick JUNOS Version

[Giuliano C. Medalha]

Good evening everyone

We have had some good experiences with the QFX5120-32C as a P router with MPLS 
( 32 x 100G ) . It is running well on several clients in the last few days.

We had some problems with the initial code, mainly in network convergence and 
null traffic in already formed tunnels, but this has already been solved in 
19.4R2-S1.

The 19.4R3 will be released on 08/27/2020  ( forecast ) and should encompass 
all these corrections and become a very stable release for this specific 
function.

JUNIPER engineering (MX, PTX and QFX) has helped us a lot with the development 
of new features and bug fixes.

ACX710 was officially launched this week.

We are very excited about this new product. Working hard to have the right 
features for our market, especially H-QOS and FAT-PW quickly.

In addition to this box has great cost benefit.

They are in the right way.  Finally.

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Re: [j-nsp] MX960 vs MX10K

[Giuliano C. Medalha]

With the new MPC10 you can get 10 x 100G or 15 x 100G per slot in mx240 , mx480 
or mx960

But you will need premium 3 chassis with scbe3 boards to have maximum capacity.



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Subject: Re: [j-nsp] MX960 vs MX10K

You can still get 100G ports on the 960 chassis with MPC5E/6/7s , depending
on what kind of density you require.

On Wed, Mar 4, 2020 at 9:42 AM Mark Tinka  wrote:

>
>
> On 4/Mar/20 16:36, Tom Beecher wrote:
> > It really depends on what you're going to be doing,but I still have
> quite a
> > few MX960s out there running pretty significant workloads without issues.
> >
> > I would suspect you hit the limits of the MS-MPCs way before the limits
> of
> > the chassis.
>
> The classic MX chassis are nowhere close to running out of ideas.
>
> But Juniper have to always be pushing the tech., so emphasis will be on
> the MX1000 (although not necessarily at the expense of the MX960/480/240).
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> I still believe if your use-case is not overly complicated, you may find
> the MX960/480 to be cheaper if you don't need 100Gbps ports.
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Re: [j-nsp] ACX5448 & ACX710

[Giuliano C. Medalha]

Thanks a lot

Forgot to put the following on the list:

TE / TE++ and auto-bandwidth

We will ask them the roadmap for these features too.



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Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2020 5:49:50 AM
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Subject: Re: [j-nsp] ACX5448 & ACX710

On Wed, 22 Jan 2020 at 10:06, Mark Tinka  wrote:

> > When were you communicated these? They differ significantly from what
> > was communicated to me.
>
> Saku, would you mind sharing what issues you know about these (and others)?

I've not tested nor paid much attention, but the information I have is
that FAT is roadmapped, unsure of the other stuff as much of it is not
relevant to me.

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Re: [j-nsp] ACX5448 & ACX710

[Giuliano C. Medalha]

Hello

Good morning

We did the tests last year in our lab

The roadmap position for some features must be changed from there.

It is a good think ... to check again with juniper sales rep ... to have a 
better view about these features and new roadmaps and new dates

We are going to ask for an update again because all these features are so 
important to us.

Thanks



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Subject: Re: [j-nsp] ACX5448 & ACX710

On Tue, 21 Jan 2020 at 22:24, Giuliano C. Medalha
 wrote:

> - No support for FAT  (no roadmap);
> - No support for Entropy Label  (no roadmap);
> - No support for Output Policer or HQOS for VPLS / L2Circuit (no roadmap);
> - ACX does not support load balance parsing the payload on lag interface (no 
> roadmap);
> - Some problems with arp flooding for the main CPU (initial JUNOS releases 
> but I think they have solve it);
> - IRB on VPLS is not supported;
> - Not possible to monitor the real-time traffic on sub-interfaces using CLI 
> (only with SNMP)

When were you communicated these? They differ significantly from what
was communicated to me.

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Re: [j-nsp] ACX5448 & ACX710

[Giuliano C. Medalha]

Hello

We did some initial lab teste using 5448 for a client and we have checked with 
JUNIPER.

The major problems we found for our client environment:

- No support for FAT  (no roadmap);
- No support for Entropy Label  (no roadmap);
- No support for Output Policer or HQOS for VPLS / L2Circuit (no roadmap);
- ACX does not support load balance parsing the payload on lag interface (no 
roadmap);
- Some problems with arp flooding for the main CPU (initial JUNOS releases but 
I think they have solve it);
- IRB on VPLS is not supported;
- Not possible to monitor the real-time traffic on sub-interfaces using CLI 
(only with SNMP)

It is good to check with them to see if those functions would work ate some new 
releases (some day ...).

Att,

Giuliano

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Sent: terça-feira, 21 de janeiro de 2020 16:59
To: Aaron Gould 
Cc: jnsp list 
Subject: Re: [j-nsp] ACX5448 & ACX710

The 5448 and the 5048 are quite different. I have several 5048 in my plant and 
when we questioned Juniper about a replacement with 100G interfaces their 
engineers compared the config template from our 5048s and said the
5448 wasn't capable of doing some of the RSVP and RPM stuff we were doing on 
the 5048. This was about 6 months ago.

Luis

On Tue, Jan 21, 2020 at 4:45 PM Aaron Gould  wrote:

> I've had an ACX5448 in my lab on loaner for over a year.  I need to
> refresh myself on how well it performed.  I have the little-brother
> ACX5048, probably 50 of them all over my network doing quite well.
> Pretty sure those are not Trio based.
>
> Never heard of the ACX710, but see it in slide 22 here ...
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Re: [j-nsp] MX204 vs. MX240??

[Giuliano C. Medalha]

Yes

MX204 is a super router !!!

Very impressive about its performance


  *Forwarding plane and control plane performance

A lot of memory for rib and fib and bng too

It is the best router from the last years from Juniper.

Hope that they create a new release ( sane success ) using MPC10 pizza box with 
8 and 16 x 100G pretty soon

Att

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From: juniper-nsp  on behalf of Clarke 
Morledge 
Sent: Friday, November 8, 2019 1:39:26 PM
To: juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net 
Subject: [j-nsp] MX204 vs. MX240??

I wanted to resurrect an old thread about the MX204, from a year and a
half ago:

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My understanding is that the MX204 is a 1 RU MPC7, but with a few
modifications. I understand that the eight 10Gig ports have been modified
to allow for 1 Gig transceivers as well, and perhaps that the QSFP ports
can accommodate a pigtail for providing a bunch of 1 Gig connections, if
necessary.

The 10/40/100 capabilities of the MPC7 look great, but there are few
isolated cases where I need to support legacy 1 gig, and the MX204 can now
handle that. Is this true?

Also, I understand that the MX204 CPU and other resources are a vast
improvement over the MX80, and that the MX204 can handle multiple full
Internet route BGP feeds, just as well as the MX240 REs can, without
compromise in performance.

The newer VM support inside the RE makes the requirements for an
additional RE less important now, according to my understanding.

So, if you do not need a lot of speeds and feeds, and can live without a
physical backup RE, the MX204 would be a good alternative to a MX240.

Have I made accurate assumptions??


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Re: [j-nsp] EX4600 or QFX5110

[Giuliano C. Medalha]

Hello

EVPN-VXLAN in general is supported using PFL license (QFX) ... that is not too 
much expensive

AFL license will support MPLS (L2circuit) and EVPN MPLS features in some 
platforms ... but is costs more.

https://forums.juniper.net/t5/Enterprise-Cloud-and/Welcome-QFX5120-48Y/ba-p/329900

The Base software includes basic Layer 2 switching, basic Layer 3 routing, 
multicast, automation, programmability, zero touch provisioning (ZTP), and 
basic monitoring. A Base software features license comes with the purchase of 
the hardware and does not require any explicit license unlocking keys.

The Premium software feature license includes all the Base features along 
with BGP, IS-IS, and EVPN Virtual Extensible LAN (VXLAN). This tier requires 
the QFX5K-C1-PFL

The Advanced software features license includes all the features from 
Premium tier along with MPLS feature set. These features require the 
QFX5K-C1-AFL

C2 license are for 5210 and 10k I think.

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-Original Message-
From: juniper-nsp  On Behalf Of Alex 
Martino via juniper-nsp
Sent: segunda-feira, 18 de março de 2019 15:35
To: Anderson, Charles R 
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Subject: Re: [j-nsp] EX4600 or QFX5110

Thank you for that link, it's quite useful.

Would someone be able to confirm if EVPN with VXLAN data plane encapsulation 
would require or not the Advanced Feature Licenses, EX4600-AFL license?

Thanks,
Alex

‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐
On Friday, March 15, 2019 11:14 PM, Anderson, Charles R  wrote:

> Check feature explorer, select EX4600, latest Junos:
>
> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fapps.
> juniper.net%2Ffeature-explorer%2Fdata=02%7C01%7Cgiuliano%40wztech
> .com.br%7C470b4953c00e459ab04a08d6abd0cbce%7C584787b077bd4312bf8815412
> b8ae504%7C1%7C0%7C636885310604161408sdata=osFWynJitRqbvJIPRQiZ9f5
> %2BL%2F3mzsjJg3vrcR9vGwI%3Dreserved=0
>
> EVPN with VXLAN data plane encapsulation Junos OS 18.2R1 EVPN-VXLAN
> support of Virtual Chassis and Virtual Chassis Fabric Junos OS 18.2R1
> Tunneling Q-in-Q traffic through an EVPN-VXLAN overlay network Junos
> OS 18.2R1 Layer 2 Circuits Ethernet-over-MPLS (L2 circuit) Junos OS
> 14.1X53-D10 Layer 3 VPN (L3 VPN) Layer 3 VPN (L3 VPN) Junos OS
> 14.1X53-D10 Layer 3 virtual private network (VPN) for IPv4 (RFC 2547
> and 4364) Junos OS 13.2X51-D25† Virtual router (VRF-lite) - PIM, IGMP
> Junos OS 13.2X51-D25† Virtual routing and forwarding (VRF-lite) -
> ISIS, BGP Junos OS 13.2X51-D25† Virtual routing and forwarding
> (VRF-lite) - RIP, OSPF Junos OS 13.2X51-D25†
>
> On Fri, Mar 15, 2019 at 09:16:52PM +, Alex Martino wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> > Thank you all for sharing your expertise.
> > I am wondering if the EX4600 supports VXLAN as VXLAN-to-VLAN. I see many 
> > parts of the documentation which refers to VXLAN, such as 
> > https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.juniper.net%2Fdocumentation%2Fen_US%2Fjunos%2Ftopics%2Fconcept%2Fvxlan-constraints-qfx-series.htmldata=02%7C01%7Cgiuliano%40wztech.com.br%7C470b4953c00e459ab04a08d6abd0cbce%7C584787b077bd4312bf8815412b8ae504%7C1%7C0%7C636885310604161408sdata=vZF%2F0rtiAsSfrCxsKXwVCHy9XfgFhrAbRsad7gVX4Zw%3Dreserved=0
> >  but the datasheet does not mention VXLAN or EVPN anywhere.
> > Can people confirm if the EX4600 does support EVPN, SPB, TRILL, FABRIC or 
> > just VXLAN?
> > Thanks,
> > Alex
> > ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐
> > On Wednesday, March 13, 2019 6:37 PM, Andrey Kostin ank...@podolsk.ru wrote:
> >
> > > Hi guys,
> > > My 0.02: we use QFX5100 in VC and it's pretty solid. But. As
> > > mentioned, it's a single logical switch and by design it can't run
> > > members with different Junos versions that means downtime when you
> > > need to upgrade it. There is an ISSU but it has it's own caveats,
> > > so be prepared to afford some downtime for reboot. For example,
> > > there was an issue with QoS that required both Junos and host OS
> > > upgrade, so full reboot was inevitable in that case. Maybe I'm
> > > missing something, would like to hear about your best practice regarding 
> > > VC high-availability.
> > > For simple L3 routing QFX5100 works well, but when I tried to run
> > > PIM on irb interfaces it behaved in strange way so I had to
> > > rollback and move PIM to the routers because didn't have time to 
> > > investigate.
> > > We run VC with two members only. Tried EX4300 up to 8 members but
> > > it was very sluggish. Thankfully for us 96 ports is enough for ToR
> > > switch in the most of the cases.
> > > Regarding VCF, as per reading docs my understanding about it is
> > > that it's the same control plane as VC but with Spine-Leaf
> > > topology instead of ring. Because we use only 2 member VCs, there
> > > is no added value in it. Seems to me that VCF can't eliminate
> > > concern about reboot downtime and more switches you have more impact you 
> > > can get.
> > > I'm interested to hear about experience of running EVPN/VXLAN,
> 

[j-nsp] EX4650 or QFX5120 Use Case

[Giuliano C. Medalha]

Hello,

Does anyone uses EX4650 or QFX5120 (new products) with JUNOS 18.3 or 18.4 ?

Any update for share about the product itself, features (MPLS, EVPN ... ), 
junos code, scaling, etc ?

What kind of use cases are you using this new products ?

Is it possible to share any experience ?

Thanks a lot,

Giuliano


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Re: [j-nsp] Interconnecting spines in spine & leaf networks [ was Re: Opinions on fusion provider edge ]

[Giuliano C. Medalha]

We are testing right now in our lab the new qfx5120

We are only waiting the official software release ...

The box is here already

The specs only shows L2circuit ... but we are waiting to see flexible ethernet 
encapsutation ( no vpls we already know ) to use vlan and mpls at the same 
interface.

But the main ideia is to use it with evpn/vxlan configuration and try qinq in 
vtep

After that we can post the results here

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From: juniper-nsp  on behalf of Aaron1 

Sent: Friday, November 16, 2018 13:14
To: adamv0...@netconsultings.com
Cc: rmcgov...@juniper.net; Juniper List
Subject: Re: [j-nsp] Interconnecting spines in spine & leaf networks [ was Re: 
Opinions on fusion provider edge ]

Geez, sounds horrible , thanks Adam

We are buying QFX-5120’s for our new DC build. How good is the MPLS services 
capability of the QFX-5120?

Aaron

On Nov 16, 2018, at 5:12 AM,  
 wrote:

>> Of Aaron1
>> Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2018 4:23 PM
>>
>> Well, I’m a data center rookie, so I appreciate your patience
>>
>> I do understand that layer 2 emulation is needed between data centers, if I
>> do it with traditional mechanisms like VPLS or l2circuit martini, I’m just 
>> afraid
>> if I make too many connections between spine and leaves that I might create
>> a loop
>>
>> However, I’m beginning to think that EVPN may take care of all that stuff,
>> again, still learning some of the stuff that data centers due
>>
>>
> Hey Aaron,
>
> My advice would be if you're building a new DC build it as part of your MPLS 
> network (yes no boundaries).
>
> Rant//
> The whole networking industry got it very wrong with the VXLAN technology, 
> that was one of the industry's biggest blunders.
> The VXLAN project of DC folks is a good example of short sighted goals and 
> desire to reinvent the wheel (SP folks had VPLS around for years when VXLAN 
> came to be).
> SP folks then came up with EVPN as a replacement for VPLS and DC folks then 
> shoehorned it on top of VXLAN.
> Then micro-segmentation buzzword came along and DC folks quickly realized 
> that there's no field in the VXLAN header to indicate common access group nor 
> the ability to stack VXLAN headers on top of each other (or some tried with 
> custom VXLAN spin offs) so DC folks came up with a brilliant idea -let's 
> maintain access lists! -like it's 90's again. As an SP guy I'm just shaking 
> my head thinking did these guys ever heard of L2-VPNs which were around since 
> inception of MPLS? (so yes not telling people about mac addresses they should 
> not be talking to is better than telling everyone and then maintaining ACLs) 
> in SP sector we learned that in 90s.
> Oh and then there's the Traffic-Engineering requirement to route mice flows 
> around elephant flows in the DC, not mentioning the ability to seamlessly 
> steer traffic flows right from VMs then across DC and MPLS core which is 
> impossible with VXLAN islands in form of DCs hanging off of MPLS core.
> Rant\\
>
>
>
> adam
>
> netconsultings.com
> ::carrier-class solutions for the telecommunications industry::
>

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Re: [j-nsp] QFX5100 vs ACX5048

[Giuliano C. Medalha]

Aaron

Witch version of Junos are you running in your ACX5048 boxes ?

Is it possible to share it ?

Thanks

Giuliano


From: juniper-nsp  on behalf of Aaron 
Gould 
Sent: Monday, July 2, 2018 1:44:59 AM
To: Alexandre Guimaraes
Cc: Juniper List
Subject: Re: [j-nsp] QFX5100 vs ACX5048

Not sure what Alexandre is talking about with "vlan leak"

I have bought lots of ACX5048 (about 50 of them) and use them as MPLS PE 
edge... For business Ethernet, cell backhaul, residential broadband, ftth, DSL, 
cable modem... Mpls l3vpn.  Lit up some of the 40 gig interfaces lately too 
Very nice.

We have the newer ACX5448 in the lab but haven't tested with it yet. (48) 1/10 
gig and (4) multi speed 10/25/40/100gig

I understand difference with ACX5048 and QFX5100 is that ACX has mpls edge 
stuff, and QFX has data center virtual chassis stuff.  (I don't know all the 
details, but one is for metro-e mpls agg and the other is for DC)

Aaron
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Re: [j-nsp] Experience with MX10003

[Giuliano C. Medalha]

We are testing the MX10003 right now.

It is a pretty amazing box.

The routing engine is so power for control plane ... bgp, ospf etc

The timers for BGP to put routes on FIB is something special ( after turbo fib 
).  With BGP PIC reconvergence is very fast too.

We will test the mpc for traffic with spirent testcenter.

Junos 17.4 already supoorts mx204 and mx10003 and is available for download

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From: juniper-nsp <juniper-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net> on behalf of Pavel 
Lunin <plu...@gmail.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2018 4:09:35 PM
To: alexander.marh...@gmx.at
Cc: juniper-nsp
Subject: Re: [j-nsp] Experience with MX10003

Not that brand new. MPC7-like, which has been around for quite some time.

What should be completely new in this box is the fabric.

The main gotcha is that they are still not shipping it. Same for mx204.
Respectively no software is available publicly for these platforms yet.

It means that you'll get something close to production-ready by the end of
Q3 2018.

It's quite normal though. Add a year to the announcement date, you'll get
the date when you can (try to) put it in production. Well, maybe.

Regards,
Pavel

25 янв. 2018 г. 6:16 ПП пользователь "Alexander Marhold" <
alexander.marh...@gmx.at> написал:

> Hi
> Regarding same chipset as mx960:
>
> RE yes x86
> PFE a clear no NO  it uses a "BRAND NEW" 3rd generation TRIO chipset with
> 400G throughput  also built into the MX204
>
> Grabbed info from a BDM document in PPT describing both new platforms
> Regards
>
> alexander
>
> -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
> Von: juniper-nsp [mailto:juniper-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net] Im Auftrag
> von Alain Hebert
> Gesendet: Donnerstag, 25. Januar 2018 17:47
> An: Juniper List
> Betreff: [j-nsp] Experience with MX10003
>
>  Hi,
>
>  After the bad experience with the QFX5100, now our rep is pushing for
> MX10003 instead of MX960.
>
>  While its half the routing (10T versus 4T), at 1/2 the price, and a
> barely 3U in space, for the same chipset (coming from the sales guy).
>
>  Anything ring thru?  Or we're going to be just another bunch of crash
> test dummies for Juniper to test this new platform?
>
>  Thanks for your time.
>
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Re: [j-nsp] Understanding limitations of various MX104 bundles

[Giuliano C. Medalha]

Yes you will need junos license

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From: juniper-nsp <juniper-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net> on behalf of Josh Baird 
<joshba...@gmail.com>
Sent: Friday, January 5, 2018 1:32:12 PM
To: Edward Dore
Cc: Juniper List
Subject: Re: [j-nsp] Understanding limitations of various MX104 bundles

Doesn't look like the MX204 comes licensed with JunOS either.  That adds
what.. another $10k to the MSRP?

On Fri, Jan 5, 2018 at 10:30 AM, Edward Dore <
edward.d...@freethought-internet.co.uk> wrote:

> Yes, you can use 1G options in the 10GE ports, but there are only 8x 10GE
> ports, so you aren’t going to get great density. It all depends on what you
> need really.
>
>
>
> Juniper suggest that you can actually get 24x 1GE from the MX204 by using
> 4-way breakout on the 4x 40GE/100GE QSFP+/QSFP28 ports. I’ve only seen that
> done with 10GE, not 1GE, but presumably it must work given Juniper’s
> interface density claims.
>
>
>
> Obviously you can also hook a switch up to one (or more) of those 10GE
> ports to get better 1GE density via VLANs, but that comes at the cost of
> losing the local termination of the physical interface.
>
> I’m not sure if the MX204 supports Junos Fusion yet, which would allow you
> to use an EX4300 as a satellite device for terminating low speed interfaces
> in a much more elegant manner.
>
>
>
> Edward Dore
>
> Freethought Internet
>
>
>
> *From: *Josh Baird <joshba...@gmail.com>
> *Date: *Friday, 5 January 2018 at 15:16
>
> *To: *Edward Dore <edward.d...@freethought-internet.co.uk>
> *Cc: *"alexander.marh...@gmx.at" <alexander.marh...@gmx.at>, Juniper List
> <juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net>
> *Subject: *Re: [j-nsp] Understanding limitations of various MX104 bundles
>
>
>
> One could utilize the MX204's 10GE interfaces for 1GE as well, I suppose?
> Is this a bad idea?
>
>
>
> On Fri, Jan 5, 2018 at 9:54 AM, Edward Dore <edward.dore@freethought-
> internet.co.uk> wrote:
>
> The MX204 seems to be amazing value for money if it has the right port
> combination for your workload (i.e. not great if you need lots of 1GE). The
> RE is also significantly more capable than the somewhat underpowered one in
> the MX104.
>
>
>
> I would be extremely hesitant about deploying a new MX104 today given the
> poor CPU and relatively small amount of RAM on the RE.
>
> The RE CPU is also a PowerPC, which seems to be a bit of a dead end for
> Junos with new development work seemingly focussing on x86 (last time I
> looked, the MX104 is stuck on FreeBSD 6 and so has no SMP support despite
> having a dual core CPU for example).
>
>
>
> We ended up going with the Cisco ASR 9001 instead of MX104 due to the poor
> performance when converging multiple full BGP tables thanks to the
> underpowered RE CPU and interesting design choices in rpd.
>
> We’re very happy with our ASR 9001 (although IOS XR isn’t as nice to use
> as Junos), but if the MX204 had been available at the time, then we would
> quite likely have ended up using them instead.
>
> There is an ASR 9901 “coming soon”, which might also be worth a look at
> for new deployments.
>
>
>
> For our use case (border router terminating peering/transit), having dual
> RE isn’t particularly important as we achieve our redundancy using separate
> routers. YMMV.
>
>
>
> Edward Dore
>
> Freethought Internet
>
>
>
> *From: *Josh Baird <joshba...@gmail.com>
> *Date: *Friday, 5 January 2018 at 14:42
> *To: *Edward Dore <edward.d...@freethought-internet.co.uk>
> *Cc: *"alexander.marh...@gmx.at" <alexander.marh...@gmx.at>, Juniper List
> <juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net>
>
>
> *Subject: *Re: [j-nsp] Understanding limitations of various MX104 bundles
>
>
>
> I believe this is what we are finding as well, which is unfortunate.
> Maybe we should look at the MX204 instead?  Although, it's 2X the cost
> (MSRP) and only has one RE.  Thoughts?
>
>
>
> On Fri, Jan 5, 2018 at 9:18 AM, Edward Dore <edward.dore@freethought-
> internet.co.uk> wrote:
>
> Beware the bundle upgrades on the MX104 – when we looked at these in 2016,
> for some reason that our VAR couldn’t explain it was cheaper to just throw
> the MX104-MX5-AC away and buy a brand new MX104-40G-AC-BNDL bundle rather
> than purchasing the MX104-MX5-40G-UPG license.
>
>
>
> Edward Dore
>
> Freethought Internet
>
>
>
> *From: *Josh Baird <joshba...@gmail.com>
> *Date: *Friday, 5 January 2018 at 14:08
> *To: *"alexander.marh...@gmx.at" <a

Re: [j-nsp] MX80 v MX104

[Giuliano C. Medalha]

I agree

The best product in years !!!

Amazing and powerfull



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From: juniper-nsp <juniper-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net> on behalf of Raphael 
Maunier <raph...@zoreole.com>
Sent: Saturday, December 2, 2017 1:26:50 PM
To: Vincent Bernat
Cc: juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net
Subject: Re: [j-nsp] MX80 v MX104

There is no licence for the ports, I already made my first quote for a customer 
last week on this product
Rebate are also lower not the same than the MX chassis.

It’s not the same product, only 10G/100G, no interfaces cards, no services 
cards …

This is the best MX product for years, I’m glad to see Juniper listening to 
their partner and finally decided to build this version (

On 02/12/2017 16:15, "Vincent Bernat" <ber...@luffy.cx> wrote:

 ❦  2 décembre 2017 14:58 GMT, Raphael Maunier <raph...@zoreole.com> :

> Price-List:
> MX204   40350 $ 2M fib / 6M rib & 32 vrf
> MX204-IR 48350 $ No fib/rib limit (datasheet 
performances) but 32 vrf
> MX204-R   64350 $ No limit

No additional licenses needed to enable ports? Those prices are
significantly lower than the prices for the MX104.
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Re: [j-nsp] MX80 v MX104

[Giuliano C. Medalha]

You must buy junos license for mx204 because its not included as BB

Our SE has confirmed it.

And maybe a service contract too ( checking it )

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From: juniper-nsp <juniper-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net> on behalf of Raphael 
Maunier <raph...@zoreole.com>
Sent: Saturday, December 2, 2017 1:26:50 PM
To: Vincent Bernat
Cc: juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net
Subject: Re: [j-nsp] MX80 v MX104

There is no licence for the ports, I already made my first quote for a customer 
last week on this product
Rebate are also lower not the same than the MX chassis.

It’s not the same product, only 10G/100G, no interfaces cards, no services 
cards …

This is the best MX product for years, I’m glad to see Juniper listening to 
their partner and finally decided to build this version (

On 02/12/2017 16:15, "Vincent Bernat" <ber...@luffy.cx> wrote:

 ❦  2 décembre 2017 14:58 GMT, Raphael Maunier <raph...@zoreole.com> :

> Price-List:
> MX204   40350 $ 2M fib / 6M rib & 32 vrf
> MX204-IR 48350 $ No fib/rib limit (datasheet 
performances) but 32 vrf
> MX204-R   64350 $ No limit

No additional licenses needed to enable ports? Those prices are
significantly lower than the prices for the MX104.
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Re: [j-nsp] MACsec over a service provider

[Giuliano C. Medalha]

I think juniper gear has some mics that supoort macsec ... for mx 17.3

JNP-MIC1-MACSEC

https://www.juniper.net/documentation/en_US/junos/topics/concept/macsec-overview-mx-series.html

Or you can use a DCI to do it ... together with your router ... but maybe in 
100G interfaces only ... will check

https://www.infinera.com/technology/optical-network-security/

Att

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From: juniper-nsp <juniper-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net> on behalf of Alex K. 
<nsp.li...@gmail.com>
Sent: Friday, November 17, 2017 9:20:55 PM
To: juniper-nsp
Subject: Re: [j-nsp] MACsec over a service provider

Yes,

But unfortunately (as far as j-nsp is considered), using Ciscos' gear.

Cisco has a special flavor of MACSec, intended to address that issue
exactly - they call it WAN MACSes. We was able to use across many different
SP circuits. As long as you have pure p2p links (real or stimulated), you
should be fine. Unfortunately, I'm not aware of any similar Juniper
technique.

Best regards,
Alex.

בתאריך 27 באוק' 2017 5:23 PM,‏ "Chuck Anderson" <c...@wpi.edu> כתב:

Has anyone been able to run MACsec over a service provider's Ethernet
Private Line (or even just a 802.1q vlan)?  I'm looking at using 10gig
ports on the EX4300 or the EX4600/QFX5100-24Q with the MACsec uplink
module.
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Re: [j-nsp] Anyone uses Adaptive Load Balancing?

[Giuliano C. Medalha]

Alex

What type of traffic ?

MX is very good for load balance because of TRIO chipset ... that is able to 
strip down the frames and the packets ... necessary for the hash of LAG circuits

Is IP traffic or MPLS traffic ?

Maybe on new boxes like mx10003 and mx204 you can create high capacity LAG 
links using 100G qsfp28 interfaces.

We are using it in a lot os cases ... is very stable ... but is necessary to do 
a deep study fot the correct number of interfaces, config, hash, mpc (hw), and 
junos version that you can find with your SM.

Will be juniper with juniper or other brand ?

Att

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From: Alex K. <nsp.li...@gmail.com>
Sent: Friday, November 17, 2017 20:37
Subject: [j-nsp] Anyone uses Adaptive Load Balancing?
To: juniper-nsp <juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net>


Hello everyone,

A customer of mine, is looking forward for a technology able to load
balance a traffic across a LAG.

The LAG in question comprised of Ethernet link and can grow from a few
links (4) to say, 20 - as required bandwidth grows. The gear is MX boxes.

Since I'm familiar with adaptive load balancing but never used it myself,
I'll glad if someone here can share his/her experience using it? Can it
deliver pretty good load balancing across a LAG between routers? Is it
stable? Is there any caveats one should avoid? Anything else we should
consider, before deploying this thing into production? Feel free to share
(off list/on list) your experience and everything else you think relevant.

Thank you.
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Re: [j-nsp] Hyper visor and juniper

[Giuliano C. Medalha]

We use here KVM ( with contrail ) and VMWare without problems

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From: juniper-nsp <juniper-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net> on behalf of Mehul 
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Subject: [j-nsp] Hyper visor and juniper

Hello there,

For knowledge purpose I want to know which hypervisor used when deployed 
juniper based data center or any recommendations.?





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Re: [j-nsp] cheapest juniper router capable of lsys

[Giuliano C. Medalha]

You can use JUNIPER CONTRAIL with a lot of VSRX.  One per client. 

It is a better solution.

We are using here with lots of success together with our automation tool.

Att

Giuliano

-Original Message-
From: juniper-nsp [mailto:juniper-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of 
Mike Azevedo
Sent: terça-feira, 27 de junho de 2017 11:37
To: Aaron Gould 
Cc: juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net
Subject: Re: [j-nsp] cheapest juniper router capable of lsys

SRX210 will do it all.



On Tue, Jun 27, 2017 at 6:52 AM, Aaron Gould  wrote:

> What is the cheapest juniper router I could get on ebay or whatever 
> site you all suggest as a home/personal lab router that would be able 
> to do 10 or 15 logical systems for lab testing, and some of the 
> following SP features ?
>
>
>
> I don't care if it's old, obsolete and fairly slow. I just want it to 
> be able to be used for things like pursuing juniper certifications 
> along the SP track, JNCIS-SP, JNCIP-SP, etc.
>
>
>
> ISIS
>
> OSPF
>
> BGP
>
> MPLS
>
> LDP
>
> L2VPN/VPLS
>
> L3VPN
>
>
>
> -Aaron Gould
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Re: [j-nsp] A wierd problem with QinQ at QFX5100

[Giuliano C. Medalha]

Andrew

Good afternoon.

Q-in-Q works fine here for us in our production networks and in our labs.

Do you need the a sample config ?

We need to umderstand the topology to help. You can contact us in private.  Can 
you share with us ?

The problem is not qinq itself ... the problem is the limited numbers of 
protocols supported by L2PT in Junos ELS ( for qfx5100 )

My sugestion is to buy the EDGE license and use MPLS L2circuit to transport 
protocols PDUs ... only if you need it.

But if you does not need the pdu transport and need point to multipoint 
solutions ... another way is to use VXLAN / EVPN config.  Works fine for the 
QFX family

We have this solutions implemented in some service providers and DC 
environments ... and they use an access switch ( like ex2200 ) to encapsulate 
pdu using qinq before the qfx5100. Works fine and we can automate it with a 
tool that we developed ( in cloud ) to provision the vxlan tunnel on each 
qfx5100 interface.

Hope this helps

Att,

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From: juniper-nsp <juniper-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net> on behalf of Andrew 
Osnach <and...@osnach.kiev.ua>
Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2017 11:33:20 AM
To: Alexandre Guimaraes; Allan Eising
Cc: juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net
Subject: Re: [j-nsp] A wierd problem with QinQ at QFX5100

Hi guys,

Thank you for the answers. It's really sad to hear about it and there're
two equally unsatisfactory solutions: vlan mapping or vlan ranges
reservation..

Thanks again for the explanation!


On 23.05.17 14:52, Alexandre Guimaraes wrote:
> Andrew
>
> Unfortunately, Allan is correct... don't expect use QinQ in ELS system, will 
> be very annoying trying to find a way the let the packets flow inside. And 
> they don't flow gracefully
>
> A friend told to me:  QFX are Ferraris I answer him: then Juniper, don't 
> knows how to drive.
>   :)
>
> att
> Alexandre
>
>> Em 23 de mai de 2017, às 06:00, Allan Eising <eis...@nordu.net> escreveu:
>>
>> Excerpts from Andrew Osnach's message of May 23, 2017 10:31 am:
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> I have a mixed VC (QFX5100 and 3500, if it means) with 14.1X53-D40.8.
>>> There's an interface that incapsulates C-VLANs into S-VLAN:
>>>
>>> set interfaces ae31 flexible-vlan-tagging
>>> set interfaces ae31 mtu 9216
>>> set interfaces ae31 encapsulation extended-vlan-bridge
>>> set interfaces ae31 unit 3174 vlan-id-list 21-22
>>> set interfaces ae31 unit 3174 input-vlan-map push
>>> set interfaces ae31 unit 3174 input-vlan-map vlan-id 3174
>>> set interfaces ae31 unit 3174 output-vlan-map pop
>>>
>>> The other side:
>>>
>>> set interfaces ae0 flexible-vlan-tagging
>>> set interfaces ae0 mtu 9216
>>> set interfaces ae0 encapsulation extended-vlan-bridge
>>> set interfaces ae0 unit 3174 vlan-id 3174
>>>
>>> S-VLAN configured like this:
>>> set vlans sv3174-qinq interface ae0.3174
>>> set vlans sv3174-qinq interface ae31.3174
>>>
>>> At this point everything works fine, but if I create a VLAN with the
>>> same ID as a C-VLAN (21 or 22):
>>> set vlans v21-user vlan-id 21
>>> the traffic in the C-VLAN 21 stops.
>>> When I delete v21-user the traffic in C-VLAN 21 restores.
>>>
>>> What's wrong with it and how can I fix it?
>>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> QinQ on the QFX and all the other boxes running the ELS style is a bit
>> of an abomination.
>>
>> VLANs configured with extended-vlan-bridge interfaces are forwarded
>> using a different daemon than VLANs forwarded using the
>> classic ethernet-switching daemon.
>>
>> It's quite likely that you cannot share VLAN IDs between the two methods of 
>> forwarding.
>>
>> I would bug Juniper about this, but I wouldn't expect them to be able to
>> fix it.
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> Allan Eising
>>
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Re: [j-nsp] QFX10002

[Giuliano C. Medalha]

Some roadmap ?

Giuliano C. Medalha
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From: Nitzan Tzelniker <nitzan.tzelni...@gmail.com>
Sent: Friday, April 28, 2017 10:49:48 AM
To: Giuliano C. Medalha
Cc: juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net
Subject: Re: [j-nsp] QFX10002

Currently only sflow

On Fri, Apr 28, 2017 at 4:37 PM, Giuliano C. Medalha 
<giuli...@wztech.com.br<mailto:giuli...@wztech.com.br>> wrote:
People,

Does anyone knows about QFX10002 ...  if it is possible to configure some kind 
of flow export ... like NETFLOW or IPFIX ?

Thanks a lot,

Giuliano
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[j-nsp] Question about QFX10K

[Giuliano C. Medalha]

People,

Does anyone knows about QFX10K ...  if it is possible to configure some kind of 
flow export ... like NETFLOW or IPFIX ?

Thanks a lot,

Giuliano
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[j-nsp] QFX10002

[Giuliano C. Medalha]

People,

Does anyone knows about QFX10002 ...  if it is possible to configure some kind 
of flow export ... like NETFLOW or IPFIX ?

Thanks a lot,

Giuliano
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